B (3:11)

Oh, I wasn't really on the Internet. I was just saying it's controversial because, you know, you have a hot, plain person like Ben, who everybody's like, oh, my God, so hot. And the audience is like, oh, my God, he's so hot. And then he inevitably has an episode where he's an asshole because it's Bravo. And so that's what happened. That's the trajectory of Men on Bravo. So he had an episode where he was kind of an. I mean, he wasn't completely wrong, but he was an. I think, in how he went about it. And. Yeah. So. Yeah. So you just know it's going to be a controversy.

C (3:44)

Okay, good. I'm so glad to hear that. The reason why is because when I was watching the episode, I was like, you know that Bailey's joke is pretty tacky. Like, that's just. She's not really. She doesn't know them in that way to be able to make that joke like, it was a bad joke. And, you know, I think he had a right to be annoyed and upset. But then when he was confronting her, he wasn't yelling. He was being pretty even tempered. But there was something about it. I was like, this guy's kind of being a dick right now. Now, she also was like. She was like. She was like, oh, well, you guys were making that joke. So I made the joke. She wasn't. She wasn't really being the most. Like, oh, my. My bad, my bad. She did, but she wasn't the most. But I still left it kind of feeling like, God, that guy kind of felt like an asshole to me. I was like. He seemed just like. I was like, I feel like he unzipped and he, like, took out. His exterior came off, and we saw his inner asshole come out. And all this talk about, like, oh, I'm just so shy. I get so uncomfortable when people talk about that I'm attractive, I'm just a shy, nice guy. And then it's like he had these, like, rage eyes. And I was like, is it just me? Did I pick up on that vibe? So it sounds like. Sounds like.

B (4:50)

You know what kind of bugged me about it is that he knows Bailey likes him. Like, everybody knows Bailey likes him. It's not like she's subtle. And so I feel like there's a way that guys kind of treat you when they find you attractive versus when they're not into at all. And it's like when they find you attractive, it's like kissing your ass. And then when they don't, it's like being mean. And I feel like he was doing that. It's like, I'm not attracted to you, so fuck off. And he kept saying, well, what is. What else is this about? Just tell me. Meaning, obviously you like me and you're gel, so just say that if that's the problem. And it just came off as gross. Like, I didn't like how he. He dealt with it. And you're right. I mean, look, when you're watching Bravo and there's a man who's not screaming in a woman's face and calling her a or something, it's like, oh, my God, what a gentleman. In a way, because we're watching Southern Charm, you know, their Southern hospitality. You know, there's stuff like that where it's like, wow, what a gentleman. He's not screaming in a woman's face. But, you know, there was something just kind of gross about how he handled it. And also, like, you're a little too angry. And also, obviously you do like Amanda, so that's weird. And you're, you know, you're flirting maybe it's like, Bailey's not completely wrong. I don't think so.

C (6:03)

It just wasn't to me.

B (6:04)

And also another thing is, is that he's been dating someone this whole time anyway. He has a girl. He's a faker. He has a girlfriend off the show. He's do. He's pretending he's single to be on the show, so fuck off, man.

C (6:15)

Part of me feels like he's. He was angry not because he secretly likes Amanda, but I think that maybe he's cultivating, like, a nice guy image. And when Bailey makes that joke, it implies that he's not such a nice guy because he's moving in on a married guy's wife. And like, well, it's, you know, if you're not doing that if you're not moving in on a married guy's wife, like, you have a right to be offended by that joke. Like, stop saying that on national tv, that I'm trying to, like, break up this marriage. But there's part. But like, his reaction sort of made it seem like there was something else on his end. He's asking Bailey, what's this really about? But it mad me asking, what's this really about for you? Are you upset like that this is making you look like not a nice guy and you don't like that because you're trying to make America think you're a nice guy. Like, something was off because I kind of felt like the normal reaction would be like, hey, Bailey, the joke that you made, it really made me uncomfortable because, you know, I would never do that. And I just would. Please, I would love it if you just don't do that again. And she'd be like, oh, my God, so sorry. But instead, he kind of came in, like, cross examining her in a way that I thought just it rubbed me such the wrong way. And I felt like the rest of the episode I couldn't look at him the same way. I was like, I feel like I've seen the real Ben now. And I see, to me, I like, see his eyes and I just see, like, meanness in his eyes now.

B (7:36)

Yeah, I didn't like him either. And yeah, that death protest too much kind of thing. Like, oh, you're. You're kind of showing your ass by being this upset about. But also the lying about having a girlfriend thing, I think that's a big part of it because he's got a girlfriend. So he's like, don't make it look like I'm trying to sleep with this other girl. You're going to piss the girlfriend off. Then I'm pretending I don't have so I can be on this show to do basically nothing.

C (8:00)

Yeah.

B (8:00)

So I don't know. He's kind of a wet dish rag to me. And he's not really that interesting. But now he's just kind of gross now. He's been kind of mean, so. Bye, Ben.

C (8:10)

They just rubbed me the wrong way, like, and I hate it. I have to say, also, I hated that, like, he just, he came at her really hard for the joke. Like, it was. Again, it was. We're not defending the joke, but, like, he came at her hard and then she's crying and then she stays in. And I just felt like no one cared. And I thought that was shitty too. She And Levi was like a good friend. Levi sacrificed valuable, you know, relationship building time with her roommates because they, you know, she. They barely have her on the show. And she stayed back with her friend. The two of them were in their bed. You know, there was like a perfunctory check in by the girls, and then everyone just, like, left them. And it was just like, like never discussed again for the rest of the episode. And I kind of felt like that was shitty too.

B (8:49)

They're like, they don't know. I mean, in their defense, why am I defending this cast? But in their defense, I think that they just didn't really know because they weren't there for it. Like, he didn't do it. Mostly on this show, you would confront somebody right at the table. But he waited and then went to her after alone. And that no one heard screaming and yelling. So I don't think really anybody knew. They just thought, well, she made an ass out of herself at dinner and now she's crying because she got called out. I think is how they're. They're kind of probably looking at it like, okay, she's being a baby, which she kind of maybe was. I mean, you know, the other thing is, like, she's not completely. But she's not completely blameless. But then again, it's Summer House and people say shit like that all the time. Like, why are you gonna cry that someone's joking that you want to Amanda, you're not the first one that they've joked that is in love with Amanda. So why are you acting like that? And grow up. You're on Summer. I mean, I don't like being more immature. You're on Summer House. You should be able to take this kind of a joke.

C (9:44)

Yeah, I mean, if it were Lindsay, Lindsay would be like, I'm not gonna let this get in the way of me having a fun time like, Lindsay out. But I also understand Bailey. Bailey was in this, like, really, like, yeah, terrible relationship where the guy was super mean to her. So, yeah, I guess she's gonna be like, I don't know. I just felt like. I felt like there just was, you know, they clearly, she stayed in, you know, and like, I just, like, the next day, it just was like, no one was even like, how are you feeling today? How's it going? You feel better? Like, no one cared. And I just thought that was so obnoxious. And maybe that did happen and the show didn't show it, which I also think was then maybe a bit of a miscarriage of Bravo. Justice. Because the show then was like, okay, now let's go back to focusing on west and Sierra, which is, you know, nominally interesting, you know, but, like, I would much rather. I was much more riveted by the Bailey and Ben situation than I was about West. West, who's just, like, quietly, you know, you know, undermined Jesse. I mean, Jesse undermined himself. Like, I'm not trying to make it seem like Jesse was, like, owed anything the situation, but, like, west put out the word that he basically went and did like a. Like the Game of Thrones, like the. The guy, Littlefinger or whatever. He undermined Jesse's shot at Sierra and then he. But anyway, I guess why don't we just get into it, shall we?

B (11:05)

Yeah, let's. Let's just get into. But also ultimately on. On the Bailey and Ben stuff. Ben, whatever. But Bailey is ultimately so much more entertaining than Ben that I don't care if she's wrong or not. What she did was not a capital crime. And I stand for Bailey because she's entertaining. And Ben, you are not. So get out of here. You is not. Boring ass.

C (11:27)

I agree 100%. I really enjoy Bailey and Levi. I would like to see more Levi in for the rest of the season. And I hope they're not sort of just like, pushing her off to the side and we never see her again.

B (11:38)

Well, this show, I mean, if you're not sleeping with somebody or trying to sleep with somebody on this show, they have no place for you. And that's just how this show has always been. That's.

C (11:46)

It's like.

B (11:47)

It's a. They pretend. It's a show about friendship. It's not. It's a show about who you're gonna fuck that summer. And if you're not gonna do it, they're not gonna give you any screen time, which is why west is pretending that he's still into Sierra, and Sierra's pre. Pretending that either of these guys would have a chance in real life with her. And then Jesse is pretending that he. Because they know how to play it. You know, they know how to get their screen time. And I'm not buying it, by the way. Enough West. Okay, so Summer House Season 10 Episode 6 the joke's on you

C (12:16)

and we're still in the middle of this conversation with Jesse and Sierra where Sierra's basically told Jesse, like, shut your face. And she was said how she was really upset by him, and he has his, like, super frowny face on, which is so funny. When Jesse's super frowny and he talks extra slow and like looks down and he's like, oh,

B (12:38)

did you see that video of the guy that went viral who's imitating Jesse? It's so funny.

C (12:44)

It's so good. He's like, hey bedbug.

B (12:48)

And he just keeps on jumping on Sierra. He's like, hey bedbug, bestie, bestie. We're just besties. Want to kiss? Want to kiss. It's so good. So talented. He does a perfect imitation of Jesse. But yeah, Jesse. Another person who does a perfect imitation of Jesse is the video game Sackboy. I don't know if you've ever played it, but when Sackboy loses a challenge, he frowns. Like that is like his face is that.

C (13:17)

Yeah. I think that like everyone talks about how big Jesse's smile is, but the, the real star is his frown. Because his frown is so funny because it's so frowny. It's like it really is like a video game character. That's like something, you know, when you can assign an emotion to your me or something like that. And he's just like. And he's like, well, clearly there was a conversation here that needed to happen regardless of me saying this to Wes. So I'm glad I'm having like, just spit it out. So he's like, okay. She's like, yeah, I'm glad we're having it. And he's like, yeah, so many jokes that I could, I could make, but I'm not going to. She's like, yeah, yeah, have some self restraint instead of making jokes. Thanks.

B (14:00)

Yeah. So they pound it out. Not sexually, but fistolly and then hug and that's okay. So then we go to west and Jesse walks in and west is pretending like he was so worried about the conversation. He's like, oh my God, did it go good? Did it go bad? How did it go?

C (14:22)

It just, you know, it was fine. It ended up being fine, you know. And like at this point Jesse has like what, put like a towel on his head or something thing. He's like hiding under like fabric. And west is like, oh wow, what's happening? Like I just feel bad that like she's upset, you know, it's like that wasn't my intention. I just wanted to make out with her and then like joke and laugh and then like not do it again, you know.

B (14:46)

And west, haha, Wes just got the entire house to do his dirty work for him.

C (14:50)

So he's like, yes,

B (14:54)

my little boy manipulation has won. It's very much like getting your little brother in trouble. You Know, with your mom.

C (15:00)

Yep. He totally, like, Wes was like a sneaky operator in this whole thing. He totally. I mean, I don't know whether I should be like, he's like snaky or I should be like, wow, I'm just impressed. That was great manipulation of the house, you know, Like, I would love that on Survivor. If someone did that on Survivor, I'd be like, wow, great player.

B (15:19)

Well, he's learning because if he had gotten in a fight with Jesse about it, then it would. Then Sierra would have been pissed at both of them and been like, oh, now you're fighting over me like I'm some prize, you know? So he kind of played it right where he just got everybody else to do the dirty work and he kept his hands clean, you know?

C (15:38)

Yeah, well, he got Lindsay to do it. He basically, he went and tattled to Lindsay and Lindsay's like, that's not all right. And he knew that Lindsay was going to go and like, tell it to Sierra and not only tell it to Sierra but tell it in the worst possible way to Ciara. And it worked. It worked like a charm.

B (15:53)

Well, he. He got Lindsay finally. But he worked on that whole house. You give him credit. He worked on all the guys he worked on. He was working it left and right, but it worked, you know, And Jesse's like, oh, attracted to Sierra. You know, she's a beautiful person and, you know, I just, I. She doesn't want to be casual and I just feel bad that I've misread that, you know, like, I'm just so disappointed on myself. That was dumb.

C (16:20)

Yeah. Poor Jesse.

B (16:21)

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B (19:53)

So they're talking about Ben. And she's like, moral of the story, it's bed still seagull. So she thought Ben and Daryl were vibing last weekend, that that's a sure thing because he's Ben who doesn't want Ben. But now that KJ is dating Dara, now she has a moment with Ben. So it's time to put my flirting skills to the ultimate test. And Bailey is still kind of annoying me with her theater kid. Like, I am going to try to flirt now. This is my storyline.

C (20:22)

Yeah. Her flirting. I'm gonna put my skills to the ultimate test. And this is like one of those tests where, like, the car goes flying off the cliff. Like, how does this car. How is it going to survive going off this cliff? Guess what? It is also shattered to pieces. The test failed yet again. Yeah.

B (20:38)

So they're like, oh, my God, Bailey, if this is your weekend, if this happens, I'm gonna go home smiling. She's like, so will I, sister. So now everyone's getting dressed for this. What?

C (20:50)

Bad news for me, as she will not be smiling ear to ear at the end of this weekend.

B (20:54)

No. So now they all get dressed for dinner. It's Amanda's birthday dinner, and Amanda and Kyle are wearing this really weird, pale yellow couples, couples look. It's very, like, Lawrence Welky. And Kyle's like, hey, let me do a couple's photo tonight, because we have not done a couple's photo all summer long. We gotta get a couple's photo in there.

C (21:17)

And Amanda goes, I look fabulous. Which was like our opening song for the crappies. How about that? And then they take their picture, and everyone's like, oh, my God, you guys look so good. Oh, my God. And then Ben and Amanda take a photo, and then they all sit for dinner and they're having, like, martinis. It's a fancy dinner. Everyone's dressed up, and it's nice and classy. And Amanda's like, thank you, guys for getting dressed up, Kyle. And Kyle's toasting to her being 34. I'm like, by the way, I'm so glad that she's 34 because she saw so much ahead of her. So much. I forget how young Amanda is sometimes. So, like, good for you, Amanda. You got out when. When the getting was good.

B (22:02)

So Much. Head ahead. So Jesse is thanking Sierra for the dinner and Amanda's like, oh my God, next weekend we'll have a full on party for Kyle's birthday. But for me, this is just what I wanted. A simple dinner at home with my friends. And Bailey's like, does anybody else miss Carl? Not really, no.

C (22:24)

I didn't even realize he was gone until she said that. I'm in the mix in spirit. In spirit. But I'm mixing some soft drinks in Brooklyn instead.

B (22:36)

So Kyle's like, all right, listen, as much as he'd want to be here, he got such a tight timeline to get that thing open. I mean, you saw it, right? Ben, you went to see it. And Ben's like, I did see it. It's still pretty raw, right? It's still pretty raw. And Carl's like, I am still pretty raw. But Lindsay was nice to me last weekend, so there's hope.

C (22:58)

So Ben's like, now listen, I mean he's got the main bar in. He's done a phenomenal job. Says a lot of things about some sort of good guy clause. He's putting a lot of time and effort and he's opening soon, soft launch. And you know, I was asking about the investors and who's helping and Jesse, you got involved, didn't you? He's like, yes, I did invest. And I was like, all right, all right, I know where this is going. Look, I joined the advisory board. My advisory said, I'm bored. Get it everyone? No, but seriously, it's gonna fail. It's soft drinks. I mean it's like you just go to 7 11. But no, seriously though, Carl did ask me to invest and I said point blank, I just cut half a million dollar check to lover boy to literally meet my payroll. So I told Carl, look, bro, I love you. It's not personal, but I literally am on the hook financial for my entire business. I literally cannot pay for another single thing. And you won't see anything else for the rest is dinner. That would indicate that I could afford anything else. Thank you very much.

B (23:54)

I was on the advisory board though, and my advice was put alcohol in these drinks. These drinks suck. Also, I'm not giving you any money. And Jesse's like, but he invested in lover boy, right? He's like, yeah. I mean back in the day, back in the day, a long time ago, you know, he put 15 grand in. Yeah, a long time ago. It was a really long time ago. So it's totally different.

C (24:15)

But 15 Randon. And just want to remind everyone I paid his salary for a few years there, even when he was high on coke and messing up meetings. But anyway.

B (24:24)

Yeah.

C (24:25)

What was your point again, Ben? Say please.

B (24:29)

What do you think about this?

C (24:32)

I think Kyle should have actually support. I think Kyle should have put some money into softbar. I think it would have been the right thing to do. I know he's on the hook. I know he just put in a million dollars, do another DJ gig. I don't know, I kind of feel like I get it. I probably think in car. And Kyle's mind, he's sort of in the back of his mind, he's like, this is probably not the best idea. And also, you know, yes, yes, he gave me $15,000, but I did put him on my payroll for a few years. I kept him. I kept him going when things were falling apart for him. So he's probably thinking that, but that's it. At least put in like 5,000 or something. I don't know. I think it is your best friend. But then again, as someone noted online, maybe this is Kyle's revenge for being demoted down to flower boy. And the wedding. Oh, gosh.

B (25:20)

It all goes back to flower boy.

C (25:22)

Geez. What do you think?

B (25:25)

I think that he's under no obligation to put money into Carl's stupid business. Okay. But I do think, you know, they are friends. Maybe he should have. But yeah, I do look at it from the point of view of, listen, Carl was unemployable. He was drinking, he was doing coke. He was a mess. That man employed him and gave him a job. And not only just a cushy salary, but also the traveling around, the doing all the events and all of that stuff. So I think Carl more than earned that back. He more than got that back. Probably enough to like invest in his own business. Like leave that job and invest in his own business. So I think, I think that yes, Kyle should have invested.

C (26:08)

I do, As a mensch.

B (26:09)

But I think what's bothering me about it is Carl trying to get into another Carl victim storyline. Because if somebody else just said, hey, did Kyle invest? And Carl said, no, no, but he's, you know, he's. He's busy or whatever. And then they said, kyle, that's not cool that you didn't invest. That would be one thing. But it's that Carl's like, well, you know, it really hurt me that I invested in Kyle's business and Carl didn't invest mine.

C (26:32)

It's like, you want your friend.

B (26:33)

It's like, shut up, Carl. Just shut Up Carl, like, how much have you gotten from your relationship with Kyle? So that's what bugs me about it. But I do agree that Kyle should have invested.

C (26:42)

Yeah, it's kind of like, I think we're totally, totally in sync on this one. Like, if you really think about it, I think that probably what Kyle is saying but doesn't want to see on camera because he already always looks so bad when he comments on these things, which is like, bro, I've put a lot of money into Carl. I put a lot of money into Carl. Okay? But it isn't, isn't the irony rich here that Ben is inserting himself into this complicated dynamic of these two that he really doesn't know very well, and yet he gets really mad at, at Bailey for them essentially doing the same with her joke.

B (27:17)

Oh, I'm sorry, don't bring the check because it's already been checked.

C (27:23)

I know it's not exactly the same,

B (27:24)

but I'm waving the wages. We got the check. We got the ch. We already got it.

C (27:29)

I'm angry though. I. It's. It's not to. It's not, it's not a perfect, you know, comparison. But you know, when, when I feel like a guy's being an. To a girl on these shows, sometimes I don't care. Justice. This is. You're in my court now and I make you just.

B (27:45)

You just got dismissed. So Amanda's like, well, Kyle, you didn't invest in software at all, did you? And Kyle's like, no, but I shared his crowdfunding campaign. Lol. You shared his crowdfunding campaign? If Carl wants me to write a check for 15 grand, okay, fine. Just like, whoa. I just think he's upset you were initially going to invest and then you pulled out. And then he sees you doing all these DJ gigs. I mean, you know, you're making money and you know, Carl's like a sensitive guy. It's about like sentiment, you know, it's not like finances. And Kyle's like, I feel blindsided. I'm blindsided. Yeah. You know, mainly I could not have been more clear, you know, financially. I can't do a lover boy laying people off, you know, instead of firing people. You know, I didn't, I didn't support Kyle and bought my wife a fifteen thousand dollar watch instead.

C (28:41)

Yeah, exactly. So Kyle's like, I mean, if I'm putting more money into my business than he's putting into his, then he should understand literally literal financial implications. And Jesse's like, yeah, it sounds like you guys should have a conversation. It's between you two. Yeah, it is between the two of them, which is funny. Why? Then, therefore, you and Ben have chimed in, which is also very. Carl is. And it's very. West, too. Is to sort of, like, air it out to the other guys and hope it gets back to Kyle. So I'm sure.

B (29:09)

Yeah, that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. That's what bugs me about the whole thing. Well, I think Kyle is in the wrong here. I'm on Kyle's side because Carl is just so annoying with his victim complex every season. And every season it's like, oh, my God, Carl's so different now. No, he's not. No, he's not. Now his filter is just back up, so he's better at it.

C (29:28)

So Jesse is like, all right, guys, everybody has to say one nice thing about Amanda.

B (29:35)

They're guacamole, guacamole, guacamole, guacamole, guacamole. Down the line.

C (29:42)

Yeah. West is like, amanda, since I've known you, you've, like, accomplished, like, so many big things from where you were. Like, you said you were going to start a bikini line for women with big boobs. And, like, you've done such a great job coming up with the fonts for that, so good job with that.

B (29:59)

You got dogs.

C (30:00)

You got dogs. I. I heard that you got that 10th punch in your Subway rewards card, so congrats on that. Cool sub.

B (30:10)

Yeah. And you've been out of your shell, and it's just, like, so fun to, like, watch you do non specific shit. And she's like, that was so nice. Was. Thanks. So Mia's like, you know, sometimes people try to fit into a mold, and by mold, I mean tiny bikini tops. But you broke that. Amanda, she's like, oh, my God, thanks so much. And then. Then he's like, well, I'm a big eyes and a smile guy, so I love. And Bailey's like. I was gonna say, Ben's gonna talk about how he wants to definitely sleep with you.

C (30:48)

And then everyone's like, awkward. And Bailey's like, definitely knew he was gonna go there.

B (30:53)

I laughed.

C (30:54)

I mean, it was funny because it does sort of feel that way. And Ben looks so mad. And Mia's. Everyone's like, oh, my God, what the hell? Oh, my God. And she. Bailey's, I know the story. I know. And then West's like, oh, my God, what the hell? Oh, my God. And Ben's like, oh. And Bill's like, okay, never mind. Zip it. She keeps doing this thing. Like, I'll zip my mouth. Zip it, zip it, zip it. So Ben's like, well, like I was saying, I'm a big smile and eyes guy, and I like the way you can walk into a room and you can brighten it with your smile and everyone loves it. Then that's where I was going. Thank you, Bailey. He's, like, all deflated when he says it now. He's like, yeah.

B (31:28)

Like, it was such an original thing to say. Like, wow. I'm saying you're beautiful. In some. In a moment where everybody's like, amanda, here's what I love about your personality, your heart, your determination, your will to make things happen for yourself, and gets to bed. And he's like, you're hot. He's like, damn it. I didn't get to finish that properly.

C (31:48)

He was sort of like recycling lines from what he had to say at the Bachelor.

B (31:53)

Yeah, well, it's like you light up the room with your smile. I'm being vulnerable right now. It's like, what a shallow ass answer. Anyway, so Bailey wasn't really that far off. So Bailey's like, sorry, geez. And Kyle says, all right, man, you got a floor, man. You got the floor. Okay, well, you're hot. So Kyle's. Bent's deflated. So Kyle's like, this group's tough, man. Telling you. He's like, what the just happened? He seems doing. He's like, I'm so mad now.

C (32:23)

And Bailey's like, oops, never mind. Sorry. I don't know. Sorry. So they. The dessert is going to be coming up soon. And Kyle's like, well, while they're cutting the dessert, I'm gonna cut the cheese, but also I'm gonna get a card. Okay, here's a card. Look at this. And they're like, oh, my God. Cartier. Cartier. So Amanda reads the card out loud, and she's like, oh, my God, Kyle, you did not. This is a little something to keep forever. But we also have 30 days to upgrade and swap it. Oh, my God.

B (32:52)

LOL, Kyle. Something that comes naturally, but, you know, Paige isn't here to buy something with my credit card for Amanda, so I had to do it. Yep.

C (33:05)

On the heels of him saying he couldn't afford one dime for Carl's company, he also gives a Cartier watch to his wife. Now, of course, wife comes before Carl always, but it is just hilarious that he's, like, crying poor, but then also making a grand presentation of a Cartier watch.

B (33:24)

Yeah, but awkward timing on that one for sure. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, I say buy your wife something over Carl. You know, your wife has to put up with you. And also, it's just such a guy who's cheating and doing the wrong thing. Gift as well. It's like, oh, here's some really expensive jewelry. Don't look over there. You know, don't go through my dms.

C (33:45)

Yeah, exactly.

B (33:47)

So we see flashback to four summers ago where Kyle tells Amanda the gift giving gives him anxiety.

C (33:56)

Yeah. It's tough for him. And he's like, yeah, I really struggle. But, like, concerning this summer we're having, it's mission critical that I nail this. It's like, wow, it's mission critical. So Kyle did the one thing he never thought he'd be able to do. Simply listen to Amanda when she says she wants something and then buy it for her. Wow. Amazing.

B (34:15)

Yeah. It's like, oh, my God, it's so pretty. And everyone cheers. It's a little avocado watch. They're like, kyle, Kyle, I want to dance a little bit in club Send it. And then we can go. So now they go to club send it. And Amanda calls her mom. What'd you say?

C (34:34)

AKA the living room.

B (34:36)

The living room. And Amanda calls her mama to tell her and say, oh, my God, Kyle. Really? Mr. Kyle, Kyle got you something. Wow. Your husband finally did the bare minimum for being with you for 10 years. He got you a gift.

C (34:52)

Wow.

B (34:53)

Wee.

C (34:55)

And Amanda says, I asked him for the watch as a joke because I know it's expensive. And this man doesn't spend money on anything. He won't even buy himself new underwear. So the fact that he went to the store and picked out the watch and put it on his credit card, like, that's. He did good. She's just. I feel bad that she's just so impressed with the simplest, you know, attentiveness to her wants, although inexpensive attentiveness to her wants. In this case, I guess it's not that simple. But the point is that he listened for once, and she's like, oh, my God, he finally listened to something that

B (35:23)

I said after 10 years of not getting any gifts. It's like, you get a gift and it's like, oh, my God, everyone's throwing him a parade in the street. So now Sierra, you know, goes to say hi or whatever. Everybody's all partying in the club, and Ben, meanwhile, stewing in club send it. And he's like, God damn it. Wes says, that was crazy. I mean, on her birthday in front of her husband. She even said. Even said that. And so Wes is like, yeah, it was crazy. Like, remember when Bailey was like, oh, I knew you were gonna say you were gonna Amanda. And we were like, what the.

C (35:58)

Well, I don't know what's going on. That was the weirdest circle of saying something nice about anyone, someone I've ever been involved in my life. My experience is that when you say that you're a big eyes and big smile kind of guy, everyone gets quiet and starts to cry right away. So the fact that I was interrupted in my beautiful moment has me really steamed.

B (36:17)

Yeah. No, everyone else was like, what did she just say? I mean, I don't know. There's something going on there, obviously. I just need to find out what's going on. They're like, go get her.

C (36:25)

It's like, I'm going, yeah, I'm gonna find out what's going on by walking into a room and being aggro. So then Sierra, Amanda and Levi are just like hanging out. And Amanda's like, Amanda's joking like Bailey's. Bailey's in love with Ben. And Levi's like, yeah, I think so. And she says, I think she just gets really nervous by him. And Amanda's like, yeah, because that comment was like, oh, girl. And even Levi was like, yeah. I mean, obviously she's joking around and it's like light hearted, but it's just not a good way to flirt. I mean, I. I tell her to this to her face all the time, just not flirting. But unfortunately she's always sticking her face into a sweet greens bowl, so it's hard to get through to her sometimes.

B (37:05)

So then the boys are still going on about it and Jesse's like, wait, like, why does it upset you so much though? He's like, because it's the second time she's done it. And then we see a clip of her saying, oh my God, he's hitting on Amanda again. Ben loves Amanda. So Ben's like, she keeps saying it, so obviously something's going on. And don't talk over the top of me. I just don't like it when people talk over me anyway. I mean, everyone's saying something and you talk over the top of me and saying, I want to my mates. Mrs. And then they all start cracking up and Wes is like, oh my God, can you believe that guy has an accent? Whoa. That was so funny. It was like a cartoon. A cartoon featuring people with accents.

C (37:48)

Oh, yeah, he said, Mrs. It's so Australian. And they're just, like, cracking up in his face. Ben's, like, all angry, and they're just, like, laughing at him. He's like, well, I can't deal with you guys. I know that I've been treating Amanda differently than everybody else, but that's because she's in the friend zone, and I can be myself. I can be flirty without thinking that I'm making any moves or hitting on you, basically. So when she said that, it kind of threw me off a bit. It's kind of like, oh, does. It does look like that? Is everybody thinking that, oh, you have to get to the bottom of this now. So if I'm doing something, which everyone's thinking, I need to stop that today. And the way I stop that behavior is by going in and getting mad at Bailey.

B (38:25)

But you just said in your own monologue that she's in my friend zone, and I can be myself. I can be flirty without you thinking I'm. So you're saying you're being flirty and you're.

C (38:37)

You're being.

B (38:37)

You just said, like, you just said it. So if someone jokes about it, it shouldn't be that big of a deal, you know? So he goes upstairs, and she's getting ready. And meanwhile, the guy's like, oh, my God, he has an accent.

C (38:52)

They're losing their minds. And then, so Bailey and Ben. So Ben walks into her messy ass room, and he's like, bailey. And he's barely disguising his disdain for all the stuff that's around. And Billy's like, oh, geez. What? What? Okay, go ahead.

B (39:09)

What?

C (39:09)

And he's like, so, what's going on? And he's, like, staring at her with, like, velociraptor eyes, like, in this really cold, penetrating way, you know? And she's like, oh. So she's like. He's like, so, what's going on? She's like, in life. And it's, like, weird. You're the one who walked in here. Why are you asking her what's going on? Just start. Talk. Just say what you need to say. Get. Be done with it.

B (39:31)

So it gets more and more awkward. I'm just like, what? Well, I'm just trying to figure out where your head's at, because at dinner, saying that I wanted to Amanda, she goes, I was just joking because you guys tell that story about how would you bet you both were naked and skinny dippy. And then you always joke about how, like, you would if you could. He goes, actually, no, we've never joked about what if I could? And I think it was rude. She's like, okay, well, I apologize if it's not my joke to make. Okay, well, is there something else going on? Because this is the second time. So it's a joke. She goes, yeah, it's a joke. I mean, you joke about it a lot. Like, I'm not going to pretend I wasn't hopping on. I mean, I was. It's your joke, which they don't really joke about it.

C (40:11)

I kind of feel like at this point, Billy should say, I know it was a bad joke. I. It got away from me. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done it. And she should have just sort of stopped there. But she was kind of defensive about this. And I was like, you know, I'm on your side in this overall in the situation, Bailey. But I didn't love how defensive you were because you did kind of mess up on this one. So Ben is like, well, you know, did you think that was appropriate when we're all saying something nice about her for her birthday, to yell that out and say, ben wants to Amanda at the table. And at this point, I'm like, oh, now. So now you're being a dick. Being condescending. Did you think that was appropriate? Like, okay, sir. She just. I mean, it wasn't the best apology, but she did just apologize. And now you're being like, now you're gonna start being a dick about it.

B (40:54)

She's like, well, I did say, bed wants to fuck about that. I didn't say the F word. I mean, that didn't come out of my mouth. And he's like, okay, well, you sleep with her. Okay? Big difference. She goes, but you make the joke a lot. And he goes, no, we don't. About sleeping with each other. And she's like, but then how would I know about that? And he's like, I mean, it was skinny dipping. We went skinny dipping. All right, That's. That's a difference. Can you not see the difference between skinny dipping? One time in Italy at a wedding with all your friends, and I'm in love with her. Slash, want to sleep with her. Are you kidding me? And she's like, well, okay, well, the way you joke about it is loose.

C (41:28)

You know, I didn't make it up. I didn't think, like, oh, my God, they're having an affair. But he does flirt with her, obviously. There's a story of them swimming naked in the pool. He makes her coffee when she wakes up in the morning, where's my goddamn Coffee. She's getting out of the pool. He makes sure she has a towel. Her husband could be doing all these things. Like, she should be picked up and spun around by Kyle. Just saying. It's weird. I was like, you know, not terrible points that she's making, I have to say. Like, I do think it was not really her joke to make. She just doesn't. She doesn't know them as well. But it is weird that he's, like, making her coffee. That's a. That's very Love island coded. Okay. And offering her the towels. He's doing little niceties for Amanda that he's not extending to the other girls in the house, specifically Bailey. So.

B (42:09)

And that is, like, you pointed out, that is reality show code for what you're sewing for. So it's not that she's wrong. I think it's just that she obviously, as she just said, like, where's my coffee? You know, like, she likes Ben. So she is annoyed that Ben is flirting with.

C (42:26)

Yeah. She feels rejected. And on top of that, I do think that he has been trying to manufacture some sort of, like, nice guy image. He really has. His whole thing this whole season was, I know I'm hot, but I'm actually really shy, and I'm uncomfortable with all this attention I get from the females. And actually, I think that she has unwittingly just poked a giant hole in that. And he doesn't know how to handle it right now.

B (42:53)

So he says, well, I don't think that you're joking. I think there's something else going on. I don't know what it is, because it's not funny, and I don't think you're trying to be funny. So this is where I got. Because I feel like he's saying, like, obviously, you like me. Just say you like me, like you're jealous. But he won't say it, and it's just gross. It's gross. It's a gross way to handle it. And she's like, no, there's nothing. And if there was, I would say something. And he's like, well, you have been saying things. And that's what I'm saying. It's uncomfortable. She goes, okay, but you joke about it all the time. And he's like, okay, okay, look, just. I'd appreciate it if you don't do it anymore, Bailey. All right, that'd be great, because it's got nothing to do with you. And she's like, okay, 100. I. I can respect that. Fine.

C (43:36)

And he stands at this Point, he had been sitting on her bed, and there's stuff on her bed and stuff all on her floor. So he stands up to leave, and she's saying what you said. She's saying, like, okay, I respect that. And she goes, hey, look at me. I'm talking. And he goes, sorry, I'm just stepping over your stuff. I want to get out of here. Which was like, his cold way of being like, your messy ass room. I'm just trying to get out of this hovel you call a bedroom. Okay, now I can look at you, because now I'm not distracted by the fact that I may trip and fall to my death over this pile of laundry at the base of your bed.

B (44:10)

Then don't come into my room.

C (44:12)

Yeah, seriously.

B (44:14)

So she's like, well, you can't even. You can't store in here. Be like, well, I didn't leave. Like, I'm trying to answer for it. And he goes, well, you're not making sense. I ask you the same question, you give me some answer. And, like, it's a joke and it's not a joke, and it's not funny, and you don't talk to anyone else like that. I'm like, well, okay, I took an inside joke that you guys had too far. I'm sorry. He goes, apology accepted. All right. Right, bye. See you out there. And he leaves all pissed off. And Mia has been listening this whole time. And Bailey goes to the bathroom and she's like. She cries.

C (44:43)

And I fully expected that in the second half of the episode, they would probably go to Apology beach or something like that. Apology dune. Sorry. And he'd be like, sorry, last night I was really steaming mad. I knew you were really upset. You didn't come out with us. It wasn't my intention to ruin you and all. I just. I was upset myself and I've cooled down. I really like you, but I just was really upset by that because I would never do that in such an infection. My character. And I get very defensive about that because when I was younger, one of my best mates, he also took one of my girls, and I never would want to do. But I thought it'd be a whole thing. And it never happened. It was just like, oh, well, whatever. I thought he was going to, like, feel bad for how intense he was, because again, he wasn't yelling. He was. He was sitting there being pretty calm, but he was just so direct and his fury was so potent that it made, I think, all of us feel uncomfortable, especially Bailey, who was on the receiving End of it, right there in that room.

B (45:38)

So then Jesse's gossiping with Amanda. He's like, oh, my God, dude, Ben was so mad. He was so mad. Sent.

C (45:45)

He'd like.

B (45:45)

He was so mad he had an accent. He always has an accent. No, but it was, like, the funniest accent. Yeah, but I mean, it was weird, you know, because, like, that was the second time she said something. And, you know, Ben is just Ben. Ben. And I just brush it off. And he goes, yeah, well, she was. He was pretty heated this time. She's like. I mean, at a table full. I mean, it was uncomfortable. I guess it was uncomfortable. So now Sierra and KJ are on the couch, and Mia comes in like,

C (46:13)

oh, I love Mia. Mia's great. She's so great. So Sierra's like, oh, Mia found some tea. Look at her. Mia got some tea. And Mia's like, child, child. Sierra's like, did he say something to her up there? And Mia's like, he could. He just confronted her. He was like, you were trying to be funny, but I don't really think it was funny. And Sarah's like, ah. And that was it. That's how it ended. And she goes, he stormed off. And Sierra's like, I like Ben. Ben's got anger issues. I like that. And she's like, twirling her hair, like, jokingly, like, oh, I like this. And she's like. I mean, she's like, yeah, I like it now. I mean, if I'm talking to you, don't storm off. But I like that you can storm off.

B (46:57)

So he comes back down, and Wes is like, whoa, what's up, me? Are you solid, mate? Sorry. That's funny. Did you. Did you just tell off a missus?

C (47:10)

Well, I said. And she apologized. She said, sorry. So I'm moving on. As you can tell by the continued rage in my eyes right now, just one last little vent. And that was it. I was like, yeah, you made it sound like it was just like, hey, didn't love that joke. And she said, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah, can we just not do that again? Totally, totally respect your boundaries. Okay. Love you. That was not what the conversation was.

B (47:32)

So then we go to Bailey and Levi, and, you know, Bailey comes out crying, and Levi's like, oh, my God, you're out of your outfit. You're not coming out. What happened? Why are you not coming out? I mean, Ben stormed out. Was he mad about the comment? It was so clearly a joke. I mean, it was just a joke. It Was just a joke. I mean, I feel like one of the guys could have said that and everyone would have laughed. Right? Am I right? And she's like, yeah, if Jesse said it, it would have been fine.

C (47:55)

Right. Actually, by the way, I do think that if Jesse said it, they would have been like, oh, Jesse.

B (48:00)

Yeah. I think it's clearly because she likes

C (48:03)

him and he doesn't like her, and

B (48:05)

he doesn't like her back, you know, and so.

C (48:08)

Yeah.

B (48:08)

Yeah. And so Levi's like, well, because I think that she made the joke, but what made it uncomfortable was his reaction. Question, not the joke, if that makes any sense. So Levi. Levi's like, oh, my God, you have to come out. And Bailey says, it was a disproportionate. Disproportionate response. You know, a man has not yelled at me since my ex boyfriend, and he was horrible, and he would break my. And he was really mean to me, and he was purely toxic. Okay, well, I can see how that would, you know, be triggering. He didn't really yell or throw your things and stuff. That's kind of taking it to a different.

C (48:42)

And she even says that.

B (48:43)

That. Yeah. But I can see how, you know, just having any confrontation with a guy would be like.

C (48:49)

Like, where's it gonna go? Yeah.

A (48:51)

Yeah.

C (48:51)

And so she says, and Ben wasn't doing anything that I would say was in any way similar to the things that I've experienced. But just the situation of the confrontation just really puts me in a horrible place. So Bailey is like, the fact that I tried to apologize, and he's like, I'm confused. There's a bigger thing. There's a bigger thing. There's a bigger thing. What's the bigger thing? Okay. Confusion on my part. Sorry. I'm like, well, you didn't really like. You sort of, like, nominally apologized. And you do know that there is. I mean, you do like him. There is a bigger thing. But either way, I'm still on Bailey's side on this, because I just think that Ben was a real dick about the whole situation.

B (49:24)

So now people are stolen club. Send it. I can't. And then Mia goes to Ben, and Sierra's saying, what do you think Bailey's sad right now? And he's like, I don't know. Is she? I don't want her to be sad.

C (49:36)

That's why we're gonna not go up there and be like, hey, I. I don't want you to be crying. He just stays down there. Oh, I don't want her to be sad. Anywho, back to dancing.

B (49:46)

So Sierra and Mia go check on her. And then Amanda's like, but now I want to come too. So they all go to the bed and check on her. And Bailey's like, well, I hated having a guy yell at me. That's how I am. And they're like, yeah, that was pretty awkward. She goes, I'm sorry, Amanda, if my joke hurt your feelings. Links to it. Anyway, I really was joking. I'm sorry if I upset you. I just. I have no problem apologizing if I do something wrong. And she's like, I have really? Thanks, skin. I don't care. I mean, I could see how uncomfortable it made Ben, but I don't really care because, yeah, I don't give a about Ben. I'm sorry.

C (50:20)

Then Jesse knocks the door. He's like, hey, babes. Hey, fellow bedbugs. We're gonna go to Murphs, but I'm assuming some people are staying behind. And everyone's like, like, no, we're gonna come. Bye. Bye, Bailey. Have a great night. Bye, Bailey. I guess. And the other girl who sticks with. Who's that girl who's in that bed with you all the time. You're. You're gonna stay back too, right? Okay. Bye, guys.

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Bye. Current Danielle and Bailey, we'll see you later.

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B (53:10)

So Ben goes to the kitchen and compliments that it's the cleanest he's ever seen it. The kitchen's like, thank you.

C (53:15)

Love you.

B (53:15)

He's like, please stop flirting with me.

C (53:20)

Thank you so much for that. And I look forward to remaining this clean for the rest of the evening. Thank you. Thank you.

B (53:25)

See you at 2:00am so Bailey's like, oh, my God, now you're stuck with me. I'm so lame. You don't have to be stuck with me. God, I'm just staring at my phone and crying. She's like, you know, I'm not stuck with you. I love this.

C (53:35)

This is great.

B (53:36)

And then Bailey just goes back to scrolling on her phone. Levi's just sitting there like, well, this is. This is. Glad I stayed.

C (53:42)

Glad.

B (53:43)

I just need to support her. She needs support while she scrolls X.

C (53:46)

So, yeah, outfit, great. But that's a good friend right there, that Levi. See, this is, I think, why I like her. There's something about her. I just really. I think she's funny. She's a loyal friend. And I like that. It's like an authentic friendship. It's not. It's not like trying to be. To recreate like, the page and Hannah or Paige and Sierra thing, even though it sort of is, but, like, it's authentic. So I like it. I don't know why I keep on, like, building a Case for why? I, like, I know you're.

B (54:12)

You're really stumping for me for Levi. I mean, she's. She's fine. I don'. I don't. She doesn't really do anything. It's like. It's like complimenting, you know, I'm trying to think of something that you got

C (54:25)

a black guy from a goat. And I think that does a lot.

B (54:27)

I mean, I like her too. So then west dances. This is fine. So everyone's dancing and stuff. And so west and Sierra are now like kind of dirty dancing or whatever. West is straddling her and she's like, okay, well, here's the thing about was like, when he sits on you. He has a crush. And he sat on me because I remember one time he sat on me was when he had a crush on me. And fast forward to now. Now he's sitting on me like, he totally likes me.

C (54:59)

Yeah. Okay, well, that's. I'm so glad to hear that.

B (55:05)

Now I'm like. Because you just started talking to him again. Yeah, you literally just gave the green flag again, like last week. So of course, now he couldn't before.

C (55:14)

Other evidence that west likes you, the fact that he follows you around like a puppy dog and basically said, I'm still in love with Sierra. So then they're dancing and stuff, and Jesse is like, yeah, Wes and Sierra are getting flirty. Really happy for them. Really happy. Jealous. Not this guy.

B (55:37)

So now Sierra and West are in Kyle's bed, and Kyle's like, oh, that's nice. And she's like, I'm gonna go see if the buffalo chicken dip is ready. So he's about to scroll, but then he starts talking to West. He's like, oh, my God, that was awesome, bro. You guys were totally flirting.

C (55:54)

Yeah. Are you talking about me and Sierra? I know. Like, I don't know what to do. It's just like we hate each other for like three weeks. And then it's like, oh, my gosh. Yeah. I mean, I looked up and like, dude, they're like, vibing. Like, you guys are vibing. I know, I know. God. God. Crush is not the word I would use. It's not a crush because we aren't friends during the day, you know, I guess maybe you don't need that for a crush because, like, you can fall in love in the club. There's a song about it, you know, because, like, it's like an. Is it an after hours crush or like a PM crush? Or like, I'm just a little boy crush. A late night crush, a sunset crush, a breakfast crush, a lunch crush. It's what it's. I was like, I. I'll tell you what it is. It's a boring crush. At this point, I think that's the best way to describe it.

B (56:34)

It's an I need attention on a TV show crush. I'm not buying this, sir. I've never bought it from west and his whole like, wow, just a boy who doesn't understand girls. What?

C (56:46)

Just take a page from the one and only Jennifer Page who once sang it's just a little crush don't mean anything. The lyrics. See, that's all.

B (56:58)

Sierra walks back in, she's like, what are you two idiots talking about? So now everybody gets ready for bed and Amanda's sitting on Kyle's lap because she gotta watch. It's like, wow. So glad. It's surprising. She's. That was so special, Kyle. I was not expecting that.

C (57:16)

You know, we had a rough start to the summer. We needed this, like a huge sigh of relief. I do love her and I haven't felt disconnected with her and God knows how long and just make me extremely happy. And this is funny because every season of Summer House starts like this where the first, first, you know, six episodes, they fight viciously and you think, oh, this relationship's falling apart. And then they have a turning point. And Kyle goes, well, it started off rough, but now we're back on. On. On the right path. But. But what's funny is that I think he thinks it's the right path, but we know she's gonna be like, this watch was great. Thanks. I'm still gonna leave you this time. This is it.

B (57:47)

And also Kyle is very typical of Kyle. And when he's happy with Amanda, I mean, yes, the watch was in play. I get that. So Amanda was happy with him for that. But Kyle wasn't happy just because she was happy about the watch. Kyle was happy because she was out wasted and partying. That's. That's when Kyle likes Amanda, when she actually goes out and she gets shit faced with everybody and she parties all night. That's when Kyle likes Amanda. He doesn't like the rest of it. So he's like, wow, we're back on the right track. Amanda came out and got shit faced tonight on her birthday. I've made no effort, I've changed nothing. But look, she's drunk. So we're on the right path again. We did it. Nailed it.

C (58:25)

Nailed it. So west and Sierra are eating buffalo chicken dip in the kitchen and Wes is asking her if she's having fun. He goes, are you having fun? She goes, what? Are you having fun? She goes, you mean as a whole or tonight? He's like, any. Are you. Have you just in any possible way, or did you play, like, a good app today? Like, did you do wordle? I don't know. Do you have some sort of fun in some capacity?

B (58:50)

Yeah.

C (58:50)

She's like, what. What are you.

B (58:51)

What are you talking about?

C (58:52)

And he.

B (58:53)

He whispers to her, and he's like, look, it's just. I just don't. I don't even know how to talk to you, okay? Like. Like, God, like, I don't know how to talk to you, if I'm being honest. And she goes, yeah, I feel like I've perfectly designed it that way.

C (59:10)

He's like, correct. But, like, I don't know what to do before filming or after. Like, I want to talk to you. And so she's basically like, yeah, you know, flirting, having fun. Drunken super is great, but, like, in the sober daylight, a conversation where, like, I have to put my guard down and be vulnerable. Like, me, I'm not gonna do that. I just. And she says, I just don't think that I trust you or your intentions or your interactions. So, like, I have my guard up. He's like, yeah, it's my fault. She's like, what? Because I just. I don't know when it's correct for you. I'm a little boy and delicate.

B (59:44)

What's correct for what's. When she's saying she doesn't trust your intentions or what you're doing, it's because you're only doing this on camera. West.

C (59:52)

Yeah.

B (59:52)

You play this big game on camera. Like, I don't know what I'm doing. Sierra. Like, I'm trying with Sierra, but I just don't know what she wants. Call her off the show. Call her during the week and go have coffee when there's not cameras around and have a real discussion. But you won't do that. You just want to do it on tv.

C (60:10)

I think he incorporated that into a shtick. He just did that. He just was very sly. He was like, oh, but, like, the only reason why I don't call you when it's not on TV is because I just don't know how to do it because I'm scared. So it's the next morning, and people are waking up. Levi is in bed with Bailey, and she's like, oh, my God, you're so sweaty. Not only did I have to waste a Good outfit last night. I got covered in your goo. And she's like, well, it's my anxiety. I'm not fucking sleeping. That's the problem. Oh, yesterday I was sad. Today I'm angry. I kind of want to pop off on Ben. I was like, oh, that's going to really help.

B (60:46)

Please do, though.

C (60:46)

Please. But I encourage it.

B (60:49)

Please do. So coming up here with your weird curled hair slicked back, staring at me dead in the eyes. I don't put myself in situations with men. I'm not fucking dating or yelling at me.

C (61:00)

Well, you should. Hopefully you don't put yourself in a situation where men you are dating or yelling at you either. I don't think any man should be yelling at you in the first place. Bailey. Stand up for yourself.

B (61:08)

But it's funny how when a guy, you know, you think a guy is so cute, and then they give you that reason to ick. And then you're like, ew, they're stupid curly hair. They're blue eyes. White walker eyes. The out of here.

C (61:23)

Yeah, seriously. It's so funny how it just, like, turns, like, right away.

B (61:27)

Stupid washboard abs. Eat a sandwich.

C (61:30)

But I actually love that. I love when there's someone who's so hot, and then you, like, see them for either being evil or awful or whatever, and then it, like, releases the spell of their hotness. I always feel like, you know, when someone's really hot. I don't like. I don't like that spell. I mean, we just watched the Traitors, Okay. We watched an entire castle of people be basically diplomatized by Rob because you're under the spell of the hotness. And so, like, once that spell has been dissipated, you can just have, like, agency over your own, like, thoughts and actions again. I feel like. And so I think it's a great moment when. When someone stops being hot and they just start becoming awful.

B (62:11)

Yeah. I just. I'm trying to think of who that happened to with Rob. I'm like, I don't know that. That's a great example. I don't think we still do anything that he says.

C (62:22)

No, I have to say, I don't think it ever happened with Rob. That's why he was so good. Well, he wasn't good.

B (62:26)

You know who you see it happen with every season is Craig on Southern Charm.

C (62:30)

Yep.

B (62:30)

That's someone you see it happen every season where he. He kind of even. Even people like me who he are completely anti at this point. Even me, I get convinced because he gets so charming and he can be so Cute. And there's always a couple points in the season where I'm like, oh, he's better, everything's great. And then you just. He does something again, like yells at a woman or something. It's like, oh, he's so coke bloaty and gross. He's so disease a burst blood ve. He's just so disgusting. It's like everything that was cute about him before, I'm like, your stupid squinty eyes and your stupid bushy eyebrows and your full head of hair. You're disgusting. You are disgusting, sir.

C (63:09)

Yeah, totally. Well, Ben and Kyle go to the gym. Mia's boyfriend calls her. Jesse comes into the kitchen, which is a total mess. So everything that they were like, this kitchen's never looked this good because by the way, they had caterers in the night before that cleaned up the kitchen. And now they went and made it a hole again. And I guess they left some steak out and they were really sad. And like, Jesse, his frown was. He already had his frown from Sierra and that was like, even more frowny because he. He also now no longer has steak. He lost steak and Sierra.

B (63:40)

What a mistake.

C (63:42)

What a.

B (63:43)

No pun intended. So KJ comes in and they talk about the steak being gone. And KJ asks if he talked to Sierra. And he's like, yeah, it was good. He's like, did you guys set some boundaries or.

C (63:56)

Kj, that's so fun.

B (63:58)

Everything, everything, love. Everything that comes out of KJ's mouth is like the perfect tick tock.

C (64:05)

Yeah.

B (64:05)

Zoomer guy, you know, he's just like, whoa, that was last night. You guys set boundaries. Awesome.

C (64:16)

You guys are up to date on your pronouns, right? So I only mentioned that because I always tell the story how back in 2020, Ronnie and I were in New Orleans and we're walking down. Was it Frenchman Street? The. The super. It was a. Just. There were all these college students that were out. They're all 20, 21. And this bro, this big old bro who was like drunk and had like beer stains on his shirt, walks up to a girl, he's like, hey, what are your pronouns? I was like, that is so sweet. Like, and I love that Gen Z. I always stuck with me. The big fratty guy was like, you want chokes and beers? But first, what are your pronouns? I loved it. So it is. You're so right. When KJ's like, hey, man, you guys, like, set some good boundaries last night. It's just so. It's so Gen Z. Zoomer.

B (65:04)

Yeah. And west is like, kj you're such a good guy. I don't know if people tell you that a lot, but I know you just mean well in everything you do, bro. Say, thanks, bro. So then Amanda and Sierra are talking, and Sierra's like, oh, God. My. Oh, my God. Well, first of all, they were showing the guys talking, like, did you talk to Sierra? And then they just cut to Sierra, and she's like, I really like cheese. And then they come back to the

C (65:27)

guy talking about the girl, uninterested in what the guys are doing.

B (65:30)

So funny. But now they go to Sierra, and she. She's talking about west, and she's like, yeah, so, like, west, like, cornered. I mean, not cornered me. He pantrid me. He, like, talked to me at the pantry, and he was like, I'm gonna talk to you, but I just never know when's, like, a good time. And I was like, like, yeah, because I made it that way. And he was like, yeah, but, like, I want to talk to you. And then they just start laughing at what a loser west is.

C (65:54)

That's my favorite. My favorite is when the girls laugh at the guys behind their backs. So they get dressed. They're gonna have a day out, and they get into their cars, and Wes is. He's doing shotgun. And Sierra opened the door to be like, you have to give this to me, you know, because she's used to a year of Wes doing anything she says to get on her good side. And so he's, like, joking. He's like. He's like, no, no, I'm gonna stand up for myself today. I'm gonna stay here. She's like, but it's, like, flirty, and it's, like, flirty and fun, but he's, like, standing up for himself. He's growing. And then the other car, Kyle's watching. Oh, my God. They're flirting. Look at that. So they all go. They are all gonna head off to Wolf vineyards, one of the famed locations of summer house.

B (66:38)

Yeah. And so Kyle's like, hey, hey. I got incriminating evidence of west and Sierra getting together last night. And he shows them a picture, and they're, like, dancing together. Ben's like, oh, that's actually a good. Still pretty good. Oh, my God. He's resting his head on her shoulder.

C (66:55)

Would you care to rest your head on my shoulder, Amanda? Platonically, of course. I'm a big smile and eyes guy.

B (67:02)

I'm back in west car. He's like, one small step for mankind and one month longer on probation, Sierra, because she didn't get the front seat. So now let's go to food for. And Amanda's like, what's the difference between a Vinery and a vineyard?

C (67:20)

And they just like laugh. And Ben goes, no one can give you an answer to that one except for me. And my answer comes in the form of any afternoon coffee for you, my love. Platonically, of course. So they, they all sit at the table, this picnic table. And like somewhere on one side, obviously somewhere on one side. And Bailey is like a little bit too close to Ben. She's like, I'm not gonna sit here. So she does that. She like makes a very announcement that she's going to move to the other side. One of these like nice big passive aggressive. I'm going to sit as far away from Ben as possible. Thank you.

B (67:52)

Yeah. And so she does. She gets a hell away from him. And they're like, oh, okay. And I was hoping this was going to lead to some kind of a big fight, but it didn't.

C (68:01)

Same.

B (68:02)

And Kyle stands up and starts eating the grapes off the vine that's hanging above the table. And they're like, wow. So the server comes over, pours him some wines, and Sierra asks Kyle to go away from the table to take a picture. And so he's taking pictures. He's like, okay, work hard. I got you. You know, they ain't calling Mansel Adams in high school for nothing. She's like, who the fuck is that?

C (68:26)

And did he have anger issues? Because that's kind of hot. Kyle's like, you know about Ansel Adams? He's an award winning black and white photographer that ventured into color in the after part of his career. She's like, okay, whatever. So Kyle's like, all right, give me naughty. Sierra. Come on, give me a little. Give me naughty. Okay, give me a lover boy. Give me $500,000. Sierra. No, seriously, do you have $500,000? And Sierra's like, we're in a vineyard. What do you mean? Give me, give me naughty. And so they're like posing. And Kyle's. He's like, how about, how about do this pose? I flirted with Wes last night.

B (68:59)

Yeah. And they're making fun of how Kyle is standing because he's like kind of squatting and sticking his butt out to get a picture. Man Is like, oh my God, look at that idiot. So Mia is complimenting Kyle on or no, Amanda, she's complimenting. She's like, I'm so glad you got that watch. You deserve it. She's like, yeah, that was, like, more a gift for him than it was for me because, like, the fact that everyone, like, clapped for him and, like, applauded for him, and now I can leave him, and I got a. Watch out of it.

C (69:27)

So then Ben and Sierra go off to play. She's like. She's like, I'm not joking, guys. Ben and Sierra go off to play cornhole. And I thought, like, okay, they're gonna talk about the Bailey situation. Nope, not gonna talk about the Bailey situation at all. In fact, like you said, we. I thought there would be a confrontation. I was, like, waiting for it. I was like, ooh, what's gonna happen next? And, like, they. It just says, like, abandoned. And I'm so mad. Like, I'm so invested in this. So Ben is like, you know, it's been really good getting to know you the past few weeks, Sierra. Look at me being floaty with you to throw the heat off the fact that apparently I've been very floaty with Amanda. I'm flo. I guess that means that we're friend zoned.

B (70:08)

She's like, yeah, same. Like, I actually don't hate you. Like, you actually don't get on my nerves. Like, you were a great addition to the house. I guess in terms of guy energy, like, you're not so stupid.

C (70:22)

It's like, all right, well, borderline stupid, but not stupid stupid. She's like, yeah, exactly. I mean, you're still stupid, but you're not the stupidest we've ever had. I mean, you really should look at the people who've been on this show, and I don't just, like, see you as a hot piece of ass. And everyone. Someone that you know, wants. Wants to make out with you in the house. You know, I'm sure that's it. Like, it's got to be kind of annoying, right? And I can see where you're, like, kind of uncomfortable, right? Like, at dinner, you were just, like, really upset. He's like, yeah, that was a lot. Yeah. So what's going on with you? Are you dating anyone? Are you looking for a relationship? I thought she was. I was like, sierra, I thought you were gonna say Bailey seemed really rattled by you last night. How are things today with you and Bailey? Are you okay? Have you checked in on her? God, it feels so. I hate that you guys are falling. Said she's just like, yeah, that was weird last night. So who are you dating? What's going on with your life?

B (71:10)

Yeah, I think it takes a time to break into that. That girl group. Like, They're. They, like, they're accepting, but, you know, you have to kind of break through because they never know when it's going to be Alexi or somebody.

C (71:23)

Yeah. You know? Yeah.

B (71:24)

So Ben's like, yeah, that was a lot. So she asked him about dating, and he says, oh, I've been trying to work on myself for a while now. Okay.

C (71:32)

All right.

B (71:32)

But there was a moment, you know, early in the year, I was dating someone for a minute, and then she said she loved me. And I look, froze. And I thought I'd be ready, but, you know, I was trying to get ready, but I froze. I just. I guess I that up. So he says he met this girl through a dating app. They only knew each other for a couple of weeks, but they spent like a hundred hours together. And they took a photo, and he's like, oh, my God, it feels so unreal. And it was so special, but it went too fast. And so he told her, well, I'm probably going to the Hamptons for the summer, so let me see how that turns out. And she was like, well, I'm not waiting for you, you dick. But apparently they were. I mean, online is saying that they. He's been dating this whole time.

C (72:13)

Let me tell you something. This is all a very lovely spin that he put on the situation, but we know what this really was, which was started hot and heavy. Everything was great. He got on the TV show and was like, wait a second. I like you, but I like the idea of having a fling on national tv. That could give me longevity on Summer House more. So you're gonna have to go on the back burner. And she's like, fuck you. It's like, sorry, TV's more important. So I don't know. I think this whole story, he's put a spin on it. Like, I'm just working on myself. I don't know. I froze. I'm scared of it. I'm like, no, you're just like, really? Almost every other guy on this show we've seen so far. You're just another fuck bullet.

B (72:54)

Yeah. And whenever a guy says, oh, I'm not dating because I'm working on myself. Oh, shut the up. When has that ever been true? Has that ever been proven to be true by any man? Really?

C (73:04)

Froze because she said, I love you. It's like, it was so great. It was so special. But she said, I love you, and I froze. Okay. What? No, it meant that you want to keep your options open. You didn't freeze. Yeah.

B (73:14)

And so Sierra gives him Kind of a speech about, you know, how he should handle it. And she's like, you know, I'm garbage started, too. And once I get hurt, I go back in my shell and it takes me a minute. And, you know, even with that same person. So it's like, I don't trust you, and I can't give you that same version of myself that I once gave you, you know, just like, out of protection, I'm sure. But just explain that. You know, just explain to just basically treat her like west. Sierra's projecting kind of her own west thing onto him. He's like, so you want me to tell her to cut her stupid teenage boy hair and take a bath every once in a while? Okay. I don't know that that's going to go over very well, but I'll try it.

C (73:53)

Tin fool. Yeah. I love Ben suggesting that he's just so guarded in life after he dated 24 women at once. Sure. Really guarded. So they now they leave and they go back to the house and they're going to play some pool games. So they're going to go to the backyard and they're going to play some, like, beer pong and stuff. And some people are. So they're scattered around the yard, and kj, Sierra, and Amanda are sitting on the back together deck. And Amanda's like, so, kj, you had sex yesterday morning? And he's, like, in a hoodie. And he's, like, closing up the. The hood on his, like, face. He's like, yeah. She's like, with who? Dara. She, like, wait, you guys are, like, hot and heavy. Are you guys texting this weekend? And then we see that, like, this entire episode basically in the background, KJ has been just, like, texting and calling Dara and just like, hey, what's going on? Hey, it's been about 35 minutes. What's new with you? And I actually found it to be endearing. I'm like, I think we've been waiting for another shoe to drop with KJ because, like, a lot of the stuff he says seems to be, like, setting up the boy thing. But I'm actually starting to believe. And this may be a fatal flaw because I may be proven wrong very soon. I'm starting to believe he may not be a boy after all. He may just be.

B (75:09)

Well, he's already past that because he's taking her out on multiple dates.

C (75:13)

Yeah. And he's like. He tells everyone. He's like, yeah. I just feel like, you know. You know what? Like, I don't like, if people like each other, then they're like, oh, we'll see each other only once a week. Like, if you like me, if I like you, whatever. Like, if you're free, we'll make time. And I was like, that's so good.

B (75:32)

That's.

C (75:32)

I feel like that's really evolved and great. I was like, wait a second. Kj. Kj, what's going on here?

B (75:39)

Yeah, look at that. So then we go to Weston, Ben talking by the pool, and west is like, oh, my God, what should I do about Sierra? Dude, I just don't know. She's a girl. That's just so confusing. And he's like, what are you talking about? He's like, I just have so many internal battles. Cut your hair. Sorry.

C (76:00)

We'll make it very curly, like a statue. Like I have. Please, please just cut your hair.

B (76:06)

And so Ben's like, just, all right, let's go talk. Let's go talk. Let's have a boy talk, right? You all right? He's like, well, it's just I've been in a gray area with Sierra for so long, and it feels good to be, like, friends, and, like, I just love her so much as a friend, but, like, when we were together, it was, like, dreamy.

C (76:26)

She's unreal. So I know why she's special, and I think you're special as well. And I think that if I. If I was around for the it, I would have thought it was the greatest thing of all time. Almost like Amanda's smile in her eyes. Platonically, of course.

B (76:40)

Yeah, she's great. That's why it sucks. He's like, all right, so you just totally it up. He's like, well, she wants a good boyfriend, you know, and, like, someone who loves her and takes care of her. And I just wasn't in that place, you know?

C (76:53)

Ah, civil. Heart was broken. And she says she really loved you. He's like, I know. Do you have any regrets? Well, of course. Do you miss her? Yeah. Does she know that? Yeah. But I don't know what else to do. Oh, sorry. Sometimes I just get random applause because I'm a model, especially when I give advice.

B (77:16)

Great shoot. Great shoot, brother.

C (77:18)

Great, great episode for me.

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I believe in you. I believe in you. It's going to make the COVID of the JCPenney. I can tell you that.

C (77:25)

It all.

B (77:26)

I can tell you that. And that is the end of the episode. Wow. Summer house. Who knew? That was a good one.

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It was good.

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All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. We Will talk to you next time.

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