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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Stream the HBO original series the Comeback on HBO max Sundays at 10:30pm and watch the Comeback podcast on HBO Max. Or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Watch what Happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Hey, welcome to Watch what CR Happens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, Ben.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Hi Ronnie.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
How are you, my little darling munchkin? Welcome everybody to the show. It is summer house day today. Kyle. Kyle. Old man Kyle making an ass out of himself. So welcome to that. If you want this on video or if you want our bonus episodes, or if you want to talk to each other on Discord and that fabulous community, or you want ad free listening or you want a free newsletter every week, go over to patreon.com. watch what crappens. That's where you find all that good stuff. Also, I did a couple of guest appearances this week. I was on the Gabbing with Gibb podcast. That man's adorable. That was my first time over there. Ben's already been on it, but I had never been. He's a lovely man. That was good. We had a talk about the State of the Union on Bravo. And then I talked to Kate Casey about some personal stuff and some Bravo stuff. You know, I love talking to Kate. She's a good friend and. And we've known each other for years, so a lot of it's just catching up. Like, we don't even know when we press record. It's like, well, here's what I think about canasta and Real Housewives. So that's the Kate Casey podcast, Reality Life with Kate Casey. Those are both out this week, so go give them a listen. Okay.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Whoa. Okay. Sounds like a great slime. Sounds like a great thing to do. So today is the big Summer House episode that Andy hyped up as the worst Kyle Cook episode of all time. And what's so funny is that when I watched it, I was like, oh, Kyle's being terrible. And then in my mind, I thought, is this the worst? Haven't we seen worse? Is it the worst? And then I thought, that's really bad. That's really bad that I. You watch this and think like, no, but I'm pretty sure there was an episode. It's like, oh, you realize, like, they're between this and Winterhouse. There were so many bad episodes for Kyle.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So many. And, you know, you're right because Andy was like, with the wars of all time. Kyle wears a, you know, I don't know, bomb vest. Like, it was like, really bad. And it is just more of Kyle. It was just that, wow. I mean, you call your wife a fucking bitch and then don't stop and then just keep. I mean, it's Kyle. It's a Kyle episode, guys. But yeah, I do think it is worse because he just wouldn't let up. And then you see kind of Amanda just crying and him still not letting up or taking any responsibility. And it's, girl, just leave that man. Leave that man. Leave him. There's another post on Reddit today of like, Kyle hanging out with, you know, 22 year old hot girls in the middle of the night. Face so face. He can't even talk. Like, the man is a mess. It's time to step away, you know?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's. I was really. I was really happy that Sierra was, like, basically saying they need to separate. It's time. I'm glad that they are now at a place where they're verbalizing it. I'm glad that it's actually what happens in real life, too, because it's just not. It's just not healthy. Kyle should never be talking to his wife that way. I think they're both like. I'm not trying to be like, both sides, both sides. I think they are both in a toxic loop. I think it's very obvious. I think she does give jabs. I think that he is inattentive. I think then therefore, she's inattentive in response because she's like, what the fuck? And it is pretty rich when you see him complaining about how Amanda doesn't pay attention to him when he's then out on the road as a dj. So they're just contributing to this, like, awful situation. It's very chicken and egg. But I think that, like, Kyle is. I think Kyle has been, like, pretty. Like. I'm trying to think of the right word. Is the word terrible.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
It's been horrible. Terrible. Horrible. Monster. Yeah. Leave him. I mean, like, what did you say?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I was like, what's the. What's the word that truly captures it? I think just. I think that he is being very, very needy all of a sudden, while simultaneously not seeming to give that same energy back for Amanda on the show.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So, yeah, that's just a bad couple. But then to hear her crying and saying, like, well, you know, I just don't know that I can do any better. And that's just so heartbreaking to hear that. And we've all felt that. I mean, I felt that, God knows, you know, and that's not a good thing to feel. But no. So you have to kind of get yourself unstuck from that, because nobody can do that for you. You know, Even if you can't do better, you can't do worse. You know what I mean?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, there you go.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
That's. That's kind of how I turned it around in my own head. Like, maybe I can't do better, but I certainly can't do worse. See you, loser.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. And Amanda just. Amanda needs some time, I think, to be single, because I don't. I just don't think she really had that. I think 24 is really early. I mean, obviously she got to be single for a few years, but, like, 24 is early. You know, she went through her entire 20s with Kyle. And in your 20s, you still. You still believe in things like being able to fix people. And so she needs to, like, go back into the dating world knowing that she can't fix people and knowing that, you know, whoever she's with, she's got to meet them where they're at, and they have to meet her where she's at. And that's where you're hopefully going to find your connection and not hoping that you will come together because there's a lot of good things on paper and then aspire to get to that place where you have that connection. So, yeah, I mean, I believe that she loves him. I believe that he loves her. But, like, it's requires more than just that. And there's just a. As you've said a million times, as I've said, compatibility is the main issue. They're just not a compatible couple.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. So we open up at Kisaki, the restaurant, and that's where they were last week, but now we're. We're not going to have a discussion there. We already had it last week. So now we're going to go party. Let's go fake out, Kasaki. Fake out.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Fake out.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So they go dance and twerk at a bar. People are still twerking, huh? Someone's laughing.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, the. The. The big dance move that we see on this episode is falling over onto the floor. We see like, KJ falls onto the floor, and then later, then they go back home and dance some more, and then they all keep falling on the floor. And it's like, I guess that's. Is that the thing? Is that what the kids are doing? Just throwing themselves onto the floor?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
You twerk and then you fall down because your. Your butt bone hurts. You're like, ow, I twerked. Old people twerking. So Lindsay comes home and goes to bed, but then the rest of the cast comes back, and of course, Kyle runs straight to the DJ booth in the living room because he wants to be the center of attention and dj, and nobody cares, okay? I do not want to hear you DJing. I don't care. Press go. Go. Put your. Your AirPods in. Everyone is not your prisoner to sit there and listen to your shitty DJ set all night, okay? It's so annoying. It's like someone who is. It's like me, if I had you over and was like, hey, I'm gonna sing at the piano all night. Nobody wants that. Do that shit. Do that shit on your Own. No, you wouldn't. It's annoying as hell. And people like that need to stop it. They need to be stopped.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Okay, yeah, this is very much like birthday boy has his toys. And so they're da. And by the way, they go and they dance, they have fun. They're fooling around and stuff. But, like, it's also the end of the night, people. Everyone's drunk. They want to do their own thing. They want to loaf about. It's the summer. They want to go to the pool. And so, you know, people are dancing, having fun, but eventually it's okay. So let's. I'm looking at the timestamps here. When they get home, they. So they get home at around 12:38am but by 1:02am, Kyle is now alone. Everyone went outside. So they dance for like 20 minutes. I think that's like, way more than you can expect considering that they were already out. They already danced, they already got drunk. People are now in their denouement. Well, they're in their day, okay? They just want to go to the pool. They got some pool noodles. They're going to take some laps. Okay, I'm sorry, but, like, you know, bro, like, you're not going to. People don't want to sit here and listen to your remixes until two in the morning in this, like, this mildly lit living room area.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
It's like, not with cardboard cutouts everywhere that are freaking me out. Like, that joke's over to get rid of them. So this is where it all begins because he is alone in the DJ booth and it's sad. There's like those Party City streamers everywhere and he's just, like, all bummed that nobody's listening to him. DJ and everybody else is at the pool, okay? Stop holding everybody hostage, okay? And go out to the pool and hang out with everybody. It's. It's one of those things, like, you're not doing what I want you to do. So everybody's ignoring me. No, you're ignoring everybody else by being a sad sack and staying inside at your stupid pioneer machine, you dumbass. So they're having fun outside, and Amanda's like, what if I just jumped in the pool? And Ben's like, do it, do it. So they're like having, like, let's push each other in. So they're doing that stuff. And meanwhile, Kyle's still in the DJ room alone, and he just turns the music off and he's all upset. He's like, well, nobody wants to hear it. And I had some t Quetta to play. But whatever. I'm just all alone in this world.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. I mean, look, have I ever had a drunk pity party for myself? Hell, yes. Have I had a sober one? Yes. So I, like, get it. I've definitely been in, like, sometimes things hit you in a way. You're like, it's my birthday, and no one's, like, people should want to be, like, inviting me out to the pool. Like, I get that. But also just, like, go out to the pool and be with everyone, you know, like you, like. And also if people, by the way, by the way, take the note, which is maybe the music you're playing is not good enough and everyone left the room. Okay? Take the note and see how you can improve for next time.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
If you're on a group of people and you're in a party house and everybody else is partying in a different room, but you're partying in a room all by yourself, to blame everybody else is crazy. That's legitimately crazy.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Okay?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
And if you feel like that, not you personally, but anybody in the audience is in a situation like that, you're the wrong one for. For being in that room, going to the other room. If they ignore you in the other room, then you can cry to me, but you can't cry when you're the one in the different room. So he's crying. He's being a baby, and he's like, I just want to curl up in a ball. I just want to curl up in a ball and die. Amanda laughing. She's laughing. She's having a blast with Jesse and West and Ben. I'm just, like, literally all by myself because they ditched me. And, like, I don't know how else to explain it. It's like, I feel isolated and alone by my wife. Well, she probably feels isolated and alone because you can't get away from your pioneer machine. Drop the machine. It's one in the morning. Nobody wants to hear it.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, and again, you're the one who's going out on the road and DJing and then staying out with the fans until late in the. Late at night while Amanda's at home. And then you're going to complain that you feel left alone. They. They brought you home from the club. Last time I checked. They. They took the major. You got back to the house, and
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
then you make it even worse. They're outside having fun, so now you don't get attention inside. And so now you have to take a Bluetooth speaker outside to blast your music at everybody. You Are not. I don't. It makes me crazy when people play other people' music and act like they made this music. It's. It makes me nuts. Like, everybody want to hear my music. It's not your music, okay? It's Robin. Now stop it. Stop taking credit for Robin. You did not make this.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, yeah. Like, just cut your losses. People are just not in the mood to dance. Don't take it personally. And just join them and have fun, you know? So then. So he's dancing by himself, and Amanda's like, guys, we should go to bed because we have a big day tomorrow. And Sierra's like, yeah, that's fine. And so Kyle's like, oh, but hey, hey, Amanda. She's like, what? Way to support me. Support Kyle? You're not doing a gig. You were not, like, performing at the pool with DJ Maddie.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
It's a Bluetooth speaker. Stop it. She's like, one. But I'm supportive. No, you're not. Wait, did Kyle just say Amanda, Lisa, supportive wife in the world. He's like, unbelievable. You, Amanda, you.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So he says you. And everyone's like, oh, my God. Because it's like, you should. Well, you should really shouldn't say it to anyone, but definitely not your wife.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So Kyle, he takes his. His Bluetooth speaker and goes inside like, you know, a Grandma with a ball on her porch. She's like, I keep this now. It's like Cherry O Terry. So I was like, kyle, Kyle. And he like goes inside again, like acting, he acting like he didn't get support when he's like playing, pressing play on like CDs in the living room. This is not a gig. This is not like a support moment. This is. You're providing music and for the afterparty. The afterparty died down and now we're in the next phase of the night. That's just how it goes when people are drunk and like to act like she, like he was graduating from Yale or something and she refused to come and see him walk the stage is just absolutely ridiculous.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
I'm okay, everybody, we're just going to go to bed and we're just going to act like nothing happened and we're going to all celebrate Kyle's birthday tomorrow, okay? And S's like, yeah, you can't just say you to your wife. And Wes is like, yeah, I'm going to talk to him. And Matt is like, no, please don't. And she's like, you know, I don't want this to be a thing. You know, I just end his birthday party tomorrow. We'll just have fun and enjoy ourselves. Like it is what it is. We don't have to talk about it.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
She's like, what's the point? Literally, what's the point of talking about this? It's only going to make things worse and he's not going to take accountability. He's not going to apologize for what he did. I know that it's wrong. And the way he speaks to me, I know it's wrong. I'm fully aware I'm not okay with it. I just know that having a conversation about it isn't going to go anywhere. Which is like sad that she's just like resigned to be like, I would rather just ignore it and just move forward than have to deal with another like empty discussion that will not move the needle on our relationship.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Well, you're talking to a drunk. You're talking to a person who's shit faced and throwing a hissy. It's like we see it, we see it all the time with parents in a restaurant when their kid is having a fit and they're just sitting there not doing anything. And in our minds it's like, how can you not do anything? Your kid is sitting there throwing a fit, throwing food, calling you a probably, whatever that two year old is up to. And you just see that look in their eyes, and it's the same look Amanda has. It's like they're two. What can I possibly do? Like, they're two. They're wasted. They're calling me a. That's just what they do at this age. Yeah, I'll just. I mean, Amanda has that look in her eyes like, he's too. Like, what do you guys do? You really think I'm going to have a conversation with that? I've been dealing with this his whole life. Maybe he'll get better when he starts preschool.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, seriously. So Ben goes up to Kyle and he's like, hey, Coyle, you walked past and said you. Out of nowhere. He goes, well, that's how I felt. I mean, I don't know if you pick up on it. Like, how much did you see Amanda talking to me today? Like, she said five words to me all night long. And he's like, but what did you say to her?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
I just said you. Didn't you hear that? Me trying to make an effort? I mean, I said you as much
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
as she talked to me. Well, but she was hanging out with all of us all night.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Not me, though. Not me, though. Yeah, but where were you?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Where were you while she was in my arms and I was looking into her eyes and enjoying the way the moonlight just reflected off of her lips? Where were you during that call?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
And Kyle can't say. I was at the DJ stand, but nobody wanted to listen to me because that's what he really means, because I think that's what this whole thing is about. So instead he's like, all I do is get shut down. No, he doesn't get shut down.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
No, you literally do not get shut down. So Wes goes into Amanda's room, and she's, like, going through it, and she's trying to sort of keep it together, but he asks if she's okay. And he's like, God, objectively, like, nothing happened for that reaction. It's just so bizarre to me. And she's like, yeah, thanks. And then she just starts to cry. And he's like. I mean, that's like the first time I've ever seen something where, like, 100 unprovoked. He was just, like, so rude. Like, and the other times he's been, like, rude, but, like, I guess semi provoked or, like, just minorly provoked. So I didn't say anything. But this time, 100. So I'll actually say something.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Well, that's like a calm version of Kyle. Like, that's tame, you know? And he's like, geez. She goes, I know I'm not perfect. Like, but I've literally been dealing with this for, like, 10 years. I mean, it's not crazy. See? And, you know, there's part of me that thinks, like, am I. Is this the best I'm ever gonna do? And, I mean, I love. He does love me so much. And I don't know. I know it's constantly making excuses for Kyle, and she's crying. And by the way, we don't really see any of this. Right. Isn't this all kind of in a bathroom?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Like, there's a lot of, like, sort of security cam footage here or just, like, stationary cameras.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. The foyer doing a lot of heavy lifting. This episode.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Big times. Big, big time. Big time. So Kyle walks into the bedroom. By the way, Salt lake city could learn a tip or two about how just installing some gopros and letting them roll all night. Because, see, they would have missed this. So Kyle walks in, and he's just. He walks in the bedroom, and he just like, amanda. And then he walks out of the room. West walks out. So he goes up to Kyle, and he's like, hey, go say you're sorry. And, like. Because, like, nothing happened outside. You just, like, walked by, and you said, you for no reason. He's like, well, she gave me the you eyes, which is, like, tenuous at best. Like, what are you talking about? Like, that's, like, the worst excuse to ever pop off on your wife. I mean, you shouldn't have. There's no excuse to ever pop off on your wife, but that's just bad. Now you're just projecting some onto her.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
No, she didn't. Kyle. He's like, all right, all right, all right. I'm sorry. All right, I'm sorry. I'll say I'm sorry. So he goes to the bathroom where Amanda is. I'm just like, hey, I'm just washing up for bed. He's like, I am sorry for saying you. I just don't feel like you paid attention to me. No, that's not sorry, Kyle. When you say, like, you. But it's your fault. He's like, but I just don't feel like you paid attention to me. And she's just like, okay. I mean, I just don't feel like, you know. You know, I mean, making the effort with me.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
She's like, what would you define as making an effort? And p. S. Don't forget we are throwing you a party tomorrow that I'm organizing. But what would you define as Making an effort. He's like, conversing, talking. So then Wes goes up to Ben's room, and he's like, bro, she just cried for. To me for, like, 20 minutes. And that's like, fuck. That's, like, not good. He's like, well, I don't know. I don't. I don't. I just didn't understand where it came from. Well, even late at night, I get applause just for being a model.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Well, with friends, like, I've definitely been, like, conflict avoidant, but, like, you know, I've got no choice in this situation to be part of the Kyle and Amanda mix, because we live together, you know, and I care about them. And, like, if Kyle's being a. Like, I don't know who has Amanda's back? So then Amanda and Kyle are still talking, and she's like, well, when we're all out, like, would you expect me to be, like, hanging out with everyone? He's like, yeah, but, like, instead of me, like, you're hanging out with all of my friends. Like, what about maybe just hanging out with me? Kyle, you did not want to hang out. You wanted people to listen to you. Dj, stop pretending this is about Amanda. You're upset because no one liked your performance.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. She goes, so you want me to hang out with you while you're hanging out with. With all the random people? That's what you want? It's like, no, I'm only hanging out with strangers because you literally ignore me. It's like, no, no, no. That's just what you. You just said that. I don't know. I'm just letting you know how it is. That's all. Okay, Kyle, let me know how it is. So then we go back upstairs, and west and Ben are still talking. And west is like, I'm gonna go check it back out. Wish me luck.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
And then in the bathroom, he goes, you're a dumbass. And she goes, oh, yeah, I'm a dumbass, Kyle. Great. And Weston Benner in the hallway. And so she passes. Passes them and. And they hear that, obviously. And she's like, yeah, I'm just a dumbass. I got. I guess I'll go make some soda water. I'm fine, guys. Whatever. And he's in there alone now in the bathroom alone, just going, you ignored me all night long with our friends. You prefer our friends over me? I prefer the friends over you. You're an ass.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. And again, like, your argument falls apart because you go out across the country DJing, and you have Amanda here saying, like, it's like, I support you DJing, but then you don't even come home. You go out to like 4 in the morning and this. And even before the DJing even happened, the ongoing thing is that he would go get drunk until 4 in the morning. And now he's going to complain that she prefers being with other people over him when he's been doing that to her for years.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So Ben goes into, I guess, work the Soda Stream with Amanda or something. Is it a Soda Stream? They're working on
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
soda, but it didn't look like a Soda Stream. There's some contraption. It was some weird late night, you know, carbonated experience they were having.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So Ben's like, well, I've known him for a year. We've hung out at brunch. I've never seen anything, I mean, this side of him, God, I've never seen that. I know he's stressed with lover boy. And I think sometimes Amanda just likes to push his buttons and that keeps building to a tipping point. And then there's a excuse you. Excuse you, sir. You know, and then we see a montage of Amanda like pushing his buttons and being. Shut up, Kyle. You know, and as Amanda said, she's never perfect, blah, blah, blah. No, she didn't do any of that today. And even if she did, nothing excuses this, that makes me crazy that Ben said this. I don't like that he said this. Like she just explodes. Like, what the fuck? But he does end it with, you know, nothing I've seen warrants a blow up like that.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. And again, I mean, I, they again, they have a toxic way of communicating. Like he, I feel like is ignores her or he gets drunk and he is really obnoxious. And then her way of responding is that she takes these little digs at him, you know, and that does happen, but that's almost immaterial in this situation because this was unprovoked, completely unprovoked, and it was just awful. It's just a terrible thing to say to, you know, your life partner. So Ben's like, don't worry, West, I'm gonna go have a talk with him. And I'll say, listen, Coyle, I understand things are difficult with you and Amanda, and if you'd like, I'll take him off your hands and then maybe the two of us can just spend the rest of the summer skinny dipping in the pool out back. What do you say, bro?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Wes is talking to Kyle and Kyle's like, she's spent more time with you than Me in the last six months, Kyle. You haven't been home for six months.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, yeah. What does she even. What is he even talking about?
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Kitchen. Amanda's just gonna go to bed, and then west is still trying to talk to Kyle, which is pointless. You know, you can't talk to Kyle when he's like this. Just wait till the next day when he's sober, because this is stupid. You can't talk to a drunk person. And Wes is like, yeah, but tonight we were at the bar and he's like, oh, yeah, there's always like a you, Kyle. So I said it and goes, no, you said you to her. And she's like, no, I said you back. No, but she didn't say you to you. Aha. It's always a you, Kyle. Nah, this is in your head, Kyle. She said it with her eyes.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
He hates me and I hates me. She doesn't talk to me. I'll sleep in another bed. I don't give a. If you all don't see the fact that she hates me, then I'm sorry. Then I'm like, I don't know. I'm blind. I'm sorry. Wes is like, well, don't apologize to me. I'm just telling you that that shit's not gonna help. He's like, I just. I give up. Oh, yeah, she hates me. And by the way, during all this time, Amanda, like, they're talking in the bathroom and Amanda's back in her bed so she can hear all of this.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. And if Amanda does hate you, I hate you at this point. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, I wouldn't blame. I don't blame her for hating you. Jesus, if this is just what you show on tv, what do you, like, when the cameras aren't there, you know?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Absolutely.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So west leaves the bathroom and he goes in to say I love you to Amanda. And she's like, I'm sorry. And we still hear Kyle in the bathroom going, he hates me. It's like making out with his JBL speaker. Like, at least have you play Robin again. Time.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, I'm so over this. Well, now, guess what? It's Saturday morning. It's 8:55 in the morning, everyone's waking up, and it's like, last night never even happened. Lindsay, FaceTimes, Gemma. And then Kyle is on his phone in bed while Amanda sleeps. And then Kyle tells us there's no excuse to, you know, drop the F bomb and say F you to your wife. But. But I'm only human.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
I'll Make. That's my key to making.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Here's the excuse. There's no excuse. But why not give it a college try? I can only go so long getting the cold shoulder, you know, getting them small but steady jabs. I used to think it was all my head until I've watched some of these summers back. And then we have a flashback to, you know, a nice healthy montage of Amanda on Kyle, for sure. So he's like, yeah, man, it's hard. It's hard for me, man.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. He's like, yeah, but now I pick up on these jabs in real time. And it doesn't even matter if we're having a good night. I still get jabbed, and it's just been piling up and piling up. Who does this sound like exactly? Like Craig from Southern. Exactly. It's the same things, but they keep poking me. They just keep poking me, poking the bear. And it piles up and it piles up. And then I explode. It's not my fault. It's everybody else all the time. And the fact that you could watch Summer House Seasons back and come away with everything is Amanda's fault is crazy. Like. Yeah, that's the thing that shows zero self awareness.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, absolutely. And so. Cause, like, I mean, it's one thing if you're in a funk, but if you're having a blast with everybody but me is just sad. So then Jesse thinks are nicer. And Jesse and West's room. Jesse's like, love ya. It's like, I love you too. That was it. And then we go to the kitchen and KJ is texting Dara because she's coming in today for the party. And he's like, hey, can't wait to see you. The vibes are excitement. Are you on your way? And Dara's like, yeah, see you soon. I'm Dara. And then I'm Dara.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
I'm gonna bully you, but in a fun way. So then we go to Jesse and Kyle and Amanda's room and they're gonna go work out. The boys are gonna go work out. And Jesse's like, good morning, Pineapple. And she laughs and cr.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Wait.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
That's all you have to do to make her smile in the morning. I just got you eyes. I just got you eyes, Benedict.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Hey, look at me. It's Carl. Now that I'm on the first floor, I can walk into this room also and do a fun little dance. I'm in the mix. Afterwards, we're gonna go to Common Ground. I'll do this Dance for morning more people.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So the guys go to the gym and then me and Sierra talking in their bed about the conversation at last, at the last dinner about, you know, living as a black person on reality tv. And she's like, you know, I'm really happy you brought that conversation up. You know, it was needed. How do you feel? And Sierra's like, I'm surprised I didn't cry more, you know, and she talks about how she gets. No, we saw the flashback to the conversation and me is like, you know, I appreciate everybody in the house just letting you talk and holding space for the conversation and not interjecting and saying like, oh, I know what that feels like, you know, because you don't just. Actually it is pretty impressive if you think about it. For a reality.
- [30:25]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Has to be able to just sit
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
there and listen and not be like, yeah, I understand what it's like. Because, you know, a lot of times people leave me mean comments about DJing too.
- [30:33]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Like Amanda, Amanda does it.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
We call those antagressions
- [30:41]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
a lot of blowback when you're a dj. People just don't understand. I don't understand what you're up to. You know, I had to have a conversation when I was younger and the conversation was sometimes they'll come a day when you will be DJing and people walk out of the room and you have to be okay with it. It's tough time for me as well, Sierra. So Sierra's like Mia saying like, yeah, we can sit here and be like, this conversation is going to change the way we look at things and not, you know, and. And everyone else's world, but it's not. And so Mia's like, Mia, basically they're just very appreciative that CR Broached this conversation. It was a nice, like, follow up conversation about the con. And. And they're just happy that at least they know. They're like, well, we. We're not going to necessarily change the world with that conversation.
- [31:24]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
We.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
But like, it's just nice to know that the people that we live with can understand our experience.
- [31:29]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. So then outside, Amanda and Lindsay are in the. Outside, Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen. KJ Swimming. And Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen talking. And they're talking about how Lindsay got her sweatpants from Amanda and they're like such good friends now. They can't believe it. And Amanda's like, yeah, like, what about you and Carl last night? That. And then we see Lindsay being like, yeah, well, I said you should date Carl. Like you may not ever you. But, like, at least he can have a conversation with you. See, I'm nice.
- [32:00]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I love every time you say, see, I'm nice. Like, oh, she is like, that's my friend. She's so nice. Lindsay's like, well, how was the rest of your night? Did anything fun happen? And she's like, and then we go back up to Sierra's room, and Mia's like, you know, we had such a long day yesterday. Like, I left the hot tub. I don't even know who went upstairs with me. But, like, I literally just left you guys because I was so tired. Like, who's downstairs? What happened? And then we go back down to Amanda and Lindsay.
- [32:28]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. She's like, you didn't hear any of it? Oh, my God. I don't even know what happened. Kyle was just being mean. Like, he was, like, calling me names and throwing a hissy fit. And Wes tried to talk to him. What was he throwing a hissy bit about? I don't even know. He was just, like, upset. I'm not hanging out with him. And then. Oh, my God. And then I cried, like, three times. I don't even know the last time I cried.
- [32:49]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
And Lindsay goes, God damn it, Kyle. But she's, like, smiling still, which is weird. And then Amanda is just saying, like, you know, he's going through his own. It's not an excuse. I didn't treat him like when I was depressed, you know, and we're going through whatever I was going through. And then upstairs, Sierra is like, yeah, I'm so over the way he speaks to her. Like, my gut reaction is, you cannot have kids with him. It's like, end the bloodline. Don't go for. Don't go any farther. Don't get more involved in this. Don't throw good money after bad. Like, exit.
- [33:20]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
I mean, if he talks to you like this, he's gonna be like this with the kids. Like, he'll be a big. The kids, you know, and so be
- [33:27]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
competitive with a child. By the way, he will 100 lose his mind once there's a baby in the picture. Yeah, Another baby, I should say, as
- [33:34]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
they often do, we see it happen over and over again. Yeah, I mature men with a baby. Oh, now you're paying more attention to the baby than me.
- [33:44]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Oh, wow.
- [33:44]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
The baby can dj, but I can't. The baby's just, like, pressing buttons on the car stereo. Oh, yeah, you like the baby DJing?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Cool. Amanda. So Mia's like, little baby. He was like, what do you think is keeping them together. And Sierra goes, I don't know. So Amanda's saying, well, it's his birthday party today, so we're gonna make it a great day. Smiles all around.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Like, legitimately, you're, like, so good at compartmentalizing. Like, that is, like, a legit compliment.
- [34:19]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
That is, by the way, coming from Lindsay, that's a massive compliment. Lindsay's like a bento box. So when she's like, you do such a good job compartmentalizing, I could learn a thing I do, then, you know, you're really in some.
- [34:31]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Lindsay is like a silverware drawer.
- [34:33]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Just like that. Compartmentalizes. Okay. She's like. She's like, I'm like a modular system from ikea. Yeah. So if she's saying that you're good at it, then whoa.
- [34:48]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah, that's a high compliment. So Amanda's saying, well, you know, I have to. I just. I guess I'm just excited to see what he looks like old. And she goes, I'm. Yeah, and then you should be, like, the hot one. Like, you shouldn't even cut down and age makeup.
- [35:03]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I love being an old woman. Lindsay goes, I know. No, it just suits me. I'm just pretend like I don't feel like that was an insult, but I want to wear a nightgown and socks at the club every night. So it's 11:19am you guys return from the gym. Carl's been training for a marathon. Goes, oh, marathon people. KJ brings in some groceries. They fall all over the floor. He's like, of course. Thank God the eggs are rubber banded.
- [35:31]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Oh, everyone's having a pool morning. And Amanda just keeps going out there, going, going out there saying, guys, I need help with decorations because there's a lot of stuff to bring in. And they just kind of look at her and then jump in the pool and keep talking.
- [35:44]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah, nobody.
- [35:45]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Nobody will help her.
- [35:47]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So, by the way, this is on the heels of Kyle accusing her of not paying attention to him and not doing anything for him. And she's the only one sitting, setting up this stupid party for his birthday
- [35:57]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
right when he's nowhere to be seen after the nothing that he did last for her next week, last week except buying her a really expensive watch.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So in the kitchen, Lindsay's talking to KJ and they're talking about Dara. And he's like, oh, man, she's coming. But I'm like, kind of in my head right now. You are? Yeah, but like, it's fine. Wait, why are you in your head? Like, are you. Are you like, nervous about everyone in the house, like, knowing about your relationship and trying to cause problems in your relationship? Because that would be terrible if that happens, you know, because, like, do you really like her? Or like, does she say she likes you or you like her? Oh my God, you guys said that already. He's like, yeah, it's like mutual. Yeah, because I know that Ben and her were kind of flirting. So what happened with that? I would hate for people to be messy in your relationship.
- [38:12]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So everyone is like, talking about that. But, like, it's like, literally was like nothing to her. She was just like flirting because, like, she's like, yeah, he's a fun person to flirt with. Oh, is that like. So what did that talk? What?
- [38:24]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
What did they.
- [38:24]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
What were they doing talking in his room for an hour? He's like, wait, what? Like, Lindsay just drops the bombs. Lindsay's just such a effortless reality TV pro at this point. She's like pretending to be like, all supportive and connected with kj and she's like, so I was down talking with Ben in his room privately behind a door for an hour. Did you talk about that?
- [38:41]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
He's like, I'm here every other week and you're too happy. I don't know you very well, but here's what I Do know you're way too happy to be on the show. So let me this up right now for you.
- [38:51]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Let me crush you, you young man. And he's like, what? But I'm like emo insensitive. Why are you doing this to me? I'm going to destroy you under the power of my reality TV spells. Oh my God, look at your heart breaking. That's so sweet.
- [39:06]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Oh my. Can I just say one thing? So according to Bailey, like Darren went into Ben's room and they were in there for like an hour. And then we see a flashback to Lindsay, Levi and Bailey having lunch and Bailey being like, yeah, she literally went into bed's room wearing one outfit and came out in another. And I was like, I mean she went in in her costume and she came out in a different outfit. That's what I saw.
- [39:33]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Levi's like, well, it could be harmless. No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't harmless. I could tell there was a sweet green bowl in there. When there's a sweet green bowl, shit goes down. Okay. It's a different person. By the way, I love the idea that Bailey saw someone go into a room. Close the door. They went in in a costume and came out not in a costume. Dare I say that might be a crazy concept called getting out of your costume.
- [40:00]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
It's crazy. Well, you know that kink where you're dressed like a pirate but then you somebody and you're no longer dressed like a pirate. It's crazy. So K is like I didn't know anything about like the room thing. Oh God, I'm already nervous. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. I am so sorry.
- [40:21]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Whoops. What's her name again? She, Lizzy doesn't even know who KJ is. She's like, who is this guy? You know, she's like, whatever, I'm just gonna up for him. So he's like, oh, that's kind of weird though. Oh well, now you're gonna be in your head about it. Sorry.
- [40:38]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So then the day goes on and people are still trying to get set up and Amanda's still doing everything by her. So we just see Amanda carrying things through the front door and like filling the pool with these blow up pills, which I guess is a sponsor. Whatever they whatever.
- [40:55]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I think it's because they're supposed to be old people. So it's like the medication that old people have to take.
- [41:00]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. So Lindsay come. Oh, I thought they were like those pills you get in the 7 11. They're like, yeah, maximum strength dicky you know, dick exploder or whatever. So Lindsay and Sierra see each other, and Lindsay's wearing a zebra outfit, and she's like, yeah, I wore this to. With Carl. Just kidding. I'm totally just kidding, but I'm not really kidding. And I was like, oh, my God, zebra. That's, like, a distant memory I forgot about. And we see a flashback to three summers ago with Lindsay being like, carl really likes zebras.
- [41:34]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
He has a thing with stripes, right? Like, he loves tan lines. He loves zebra. Like, he's really into it. He's like, if I see. If I go into a Lady Foot Locker, I'm like, oh, so, yeah, the
- [41:48]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
fake zebra, those fake animals they brought in, that's like the cardboard cutouts of that year.
- [41:53]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Oh, I hated those. Those lasted for so many years. I think they got those in season two, like, off the side of the road at, like, some antique shop. And then they kept them around for years and years. Ugh. Wesley stripes. I'll never forget. So, yeah. And we see footage of Wesley Stripes and Carl bring the fake zebra into the hospital. Oh, we've got it. This is. Or be careful. Don't break up. He's got stripes. So hot. Oh, I love the stripes.
- [42:17]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Oh.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So back to present. Sierra's, like, by the way, I do remember, like, being really, like, I was really stuck on this thing for a month. Like, Carl likes zebra. It was like messing. It's like, rocking Sierra's world for a month where she was like, wow, so much going on in the world. But Pearl likes zebra. That's the one thing I can't make sense of. Yeah.
- [42:42]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So in the back, Carl sees kj and he's like, oh, how we doing, bro?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
How we doing?
- [42:46]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Win the match. He's like, I'm. I'm all right. Are you a little stressed? I sense it. I sense it, little brother. Come on, sit down.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Tell me.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Tell. Tell Uncle Carl. Why are you stressed? He's like, yeah, you know, it's just, like, challenging because I just heard some. Bro. I, like, heard some, like, through word of mouth. Like, whenever Dara was here, she was just, like, in Ben's room for, like, an hour or something.
- [43:13]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Well, I think that what you're gonna discover a little bit. And Carl's gone through this a lot. Me as well, at times is that when there's two people in the house that have an interest in each other, it becomes fodder and vigor for the house, the whole house to discuss. Also, when there's one person in the house and they just have an interest not necessarily in someone else, but perhaps in, I don't know, brick and mortar that also becomes fodder for the whole household. And I think it's just hard, especially because. Which I don't like to say that, because I'm more of a soft guy, but it is hard, especially when you know you're new and. And trying to get to know her. So. Oh, I feel like, man. Yeah.
- [43:46]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Like, if you think you're gonna be in this house and stick your penis inside a wooden zebra's nostril and not get called out on it, you're in the wrong house. This morning, you.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So KJ's like, yeah, I'm already, like, I'm already anxious about Dara coming to the house and, like, making sure she's having a good time and feels, like, included. And then I'm being reminded of this party that I already felt jealous of, of Ben, because I like Dara, and I'm just like. And I like her now. And, like, I've said, like, I'm a very honest person. And if she wasn't being honest about that, then, like, what are you hiding? I'm like, okay, kj, you're adorable, but, like, you got her. Like, don't worry. Like, I think everything's okay.
- [44:29]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
The insecurity. I can't. Like, you're a model. You are a model, sir. I want to hear it from you. He's like, what? She likes that model more than me. He's like, you're both models. You would think that I would love model insecurity, but it's. It's making me crazy. I'm, like, sitting here, like, playing with my muffin top. Like, I wonder if this will ever go away or if I have to get this cut off. And then I've got 20 pack up there. Like, I'm so insecure, I can't take it. So they're talking about her coming, and Kyle is like, just. Kyle's there now.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
He's like, oh.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
He's like, yeah, she's coming here, though, right? Just. Just tune it out. Just tune it out. Just tune it. Just ignore it. It didn't happen. I'm at. It didn't give you you eyes. Just keep telling yourself that all day.
- [45:13]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
So then at the pool chairs, Ben is sitting there with Jesse and West, and he's like, so did you hear? Bit less activities after you left? It's like, oh, yeah, that west was saying that it got pretty perturbed when he came upstairs. No, no, I was saying I got the soda machine to work, Made some sweet, sweet seltzer. What are you talking about? I like.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
He says, perturbed. And west goes, whoa, that's a big word.
- [45:36]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
And then we see footage of him being perturbed. So then meanwhile, back to presence. Sierra walks up to the chairs. He sits. She sits down with the guys, and she's like, idiots. She's like, idiots. What's up? Hi.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
So they're talking about last night, and Wes says, you know, I told him he has to apologize. And he was saying that she gave me you eyes. And Sierra's like, are you being serious? He's like, yeah, I swear. And I was like, dude, what the. We're just, like, sitting there. And then Amanda comes out, said, guys, there's still tons of decorations out front. She's like, got stuff on her back in her arms.
- [46:17]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Sorry, we can't help you. We were just talking about the destruction of your marriage and how you should never have babies with this man and probably should divorce him. Okay, good luck with that palm tree.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
We're all talking about how poorly we feel for you, but nobody's gonna lift a finger to help you on this really rough day for. Okay, get to it, Amanda. Jesus. Did she just give me you eyes? Because I'll kick that bitch's ass right now.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Jesse's like, has anybody talked to him about it today? Do we know if he even remembers? Wes is like, I was, like, teetering on the line of being, should we ask him if he even has a clue? And she was like, not today. Like, for his birthday. Just, like, leave it alone. And I just got, like, scared because it's like a confrontation, so. So I just had to comet instead. It's, like, acting like he was actually gonna do this. Like, no, you were never gonna do this. You're just gonna swim around and loaf and relax by the pool.
- [47:11]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah. And so Sierra's like, yeah, I don't know how she does that, because if I'm pissed, everybody knows. And Wes goes, yeah, we know. They'll start laughing. She's like, yeah, there's no gray area. So meanwhile, Amanda's like, guys, please, can anybody help me?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I'm not.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
They know. They help me, please. Like, yeah, whatever, Amanda. Okay. Okay, Amanda. Good luck with that. God, poor Amanda. Am I right, guys?
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Poor Amanda. And I don't know if it was happening at this specific moment or, like, in a few beats from now. She. At one point, she just has this tree, and she's just trying to set up this tree and the palm frons Keeps slapping her in the face. And I was like, this is the metaphor. And she's like, say everything's fine, guys. Everything's fine. Everything.
- [47:53]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
That's next. Because they continue to talk about Amanda and. And whenever they're like, poor Amanda. And it just cuts to Amanda being poked in the eye with the tree. And then she like, literally just stands there, like, with the tree still poked in her eye, and she's like, oh,
- [48:08]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
no one actually helps her. No, no one actually helps her.
- [48:11]
Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
She also doesn't get the. Away from the tree, I have to point out, which is. It's like, get away from the tree, Amanda. Jesus.
- [48:19]
Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I can change the tree. I know I can fix the tree.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
Yeah, I'll fix it. So Ben tells that the tree just needs to feel supported, guys. So Ben is talking to them still, the guys in Sierra, and he's like, yeah, you know, I had a chat with him. I went to Love a Boy to check it out. And I didn't realize this, but he's personally on the hook for Lover Boy Millions of dollars. So apparently Kyle guaranteed a four million dollar loan back when lover boy was doing well and was still going up. And there's still 2 million owed. More than 2 million owed, less debt. So if lover boy tanks and he's bankrupt and he lost everything. To which I say, why would you do a personal loan? Like, that's not my fault. Why don't you do that? Yeah, it's a stupid decision. That is absolutely idiotic. So while I get that, that would stress you out and I feel for you because it's too expensive. Lover boy is too expensive. And I don't know. Do you. Do you ever see anybody drinking Lover Boy? Because I feel like it should be. It has enough press that it should be like a huge thing.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
I guess what's weird to me is how is that. That like, you know, 15 years later, somehow black water still exists. And I see it in stores. I see it everywhere. How is it that that is, like thriving? How is it that, Poppy, the soda that those two people on House Hunters made that they, like, brought to whole Foods and they brought to a convention, and then they bought a house on House Hunters and then they stole that for like $2 billion? Like that's doing well? I mean, I guess I'm just saying.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
I have answers. I mean, look, the Blackwater A was something that was marketed as health, right? Because it's like the things that are in black. Why whatever it is, the alkaline or whatever it is, that's why it's black and it's kind of a health thing. Also. Those guys sold it right away. I mean, they had black water. They sold it to a huge company. That's why it's still huge, because they've got the huge company marketing it. Then you've got Poppy. And I think Poppy did well because it was another health thing. It was like a probiotic soda. I was like, you can drink soda, but you also get all these health benefits. Lover boy is drinking and alcohol, when that's kind of going down in the world. And there's also, it's also so oversaturated with that stuff.
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Kelly Clarkson / Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Because like White Claw and all that stuff. And also like sometimes those. I don't, I don't know what the status is of alcoholic seltzers and spritzes and whatever. But like, I, you know, drinking fads come and go. I mean, sweet tea vodka, Hello. I used to love my sweet tea vodka. Oh, that was the best with like some lemonade. Oh, the best. And like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to alcohol. I will never abandon it. And the next thing you know, it's gone. Mike's hard lemonade or like, you know, hard lemonades here and then gone. So, like, I don't know where the seltzer train is these days, but like, if the fad is receding, that probably is also part of it because as you wisely mentioned, those, those beverages first of all are sodas or they're non alcoholic and they're tied to health. But like, it just seems to me that Kyle has like a lot of has been able to give this brand a huge amount of press. And we all know about lover boy. We all know what lover boy is. It's at all these events that he does. And like the fact that it's tanking, which is, by the way, is it great for business to announce like multiple times on your show that your business is totally tanking? What went wrong here? How did it go so far? Awry.
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Ronnie / Podcast Host 2
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