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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
Alcohol consumption is decreasing in the US and has reached a 90 year low with only 54% of adults reporting they drink, down from over 60% in previous decades. This decline is driven by health concerned, high costs and high a significant reduction in drinking among young adults and women and women. Hello. That's the.
Ronnie
That.
Ben
That's who they're marketing to, right? Lover Boy? So it's not like he could have seen that coming. I think I saw something saying, like, GLP ones are a huge thing to blame, too, because those. Oh, interesting work with your thoughts on addiction and drinking. You don't really. It doesn't affect you the same way. So I wonder if that's something to do with it. Anyway, it's not like it's his fault, like.
Ronnie
No, no.
Ben
But at the same time, don't put your own money. Everybody knows when you go into a business like that. Oh, don't put your.
Ronnie
Yeah. I also feel like they're like, maybe I'm wrong about this or maybe. Maybe it's out there and I haven't seen it. But it feels like they never were able to expand the brand beyond a thing that sold on Bravo. Like, I never saw ads for Lover Boy around. I didn't see billboards. I didn't see any. I just never saw, like, a marketing push beyond Bravo. It always seemed to be like, okay, we're gonna get, like, our audience really into it. And I don't know if that would have made the difference or not, but it felt like it never went to the next level from this thing that Bravo fans know about. And if Kyle Cook or Carl's around, whatever that they'll be. They'll be like lover boy to just its own entity that, like, goes and does its thing. Like Skinny Girl, right?
Ben
Yeah. It never really caught on like that.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
So we see a scene of west and Kyle in the same. In the office. Apparently, Kyle's just shot tons of scenes about this because we also saw a scene with him and Carl earlier. So apparently he's just shooting scene after scene about how Loverboy is tanking, which is, like, you said, like, is that wise? And in this scene, Kyle's saying, I have an investor call tomorrow. We have to talk about how long we can last based on our current cash reserves. And it's about six months at most. And so we cut back, and Ben's like, you know, I'm not saying it's an excuse, but maybe what's going through his head 247 is if lover boy is bankrupt and I'm bankrupt also. And Sierra says, well, whose fault is that? You know, there's always an excuse, you know, that he finally. Yeah, it's like, there's always something like, the world can be crashing down around you, but you want to know your husband's not just because There's a war outside. Your husband's not going to turn you and go, well, you, you know, you need someone the most when shit is going bad.
Ronnie
Right? I. I love that Ben does this whole thing about like, but poor Coil, his businesses is in the. And like, that is stressful. It is scary. And, and it will weigh on you, but guess what? This stuff was happening before when lover boy was doing really well. Also, I'd like to point out, and I love Sierra's like, well, whose fault is that? Like, don't give me this. Like, doesn't give an excuse to curse out your wife.
Ben
Yeah. And you know, Ben's getting on my nerves with this whole like, well, but Kyle, you know, he's got this going on and that going on. She does nag him. Really pissing me off with that. But I have to remind myself that Ben is new to Kyle and we've had 10 years of Kyle. Everybody else has seen Kyle. Four years doing this and then pulling the victim card and crying and being upset because everyone hurt his feelings when he doesn't get his way. But this is new. So maybe Ben is just falling for it because he's not used to.
Ronnie
Follow your instincts, you know? Follow your instincts, Ronnie. Like, you're normally not. You're. You're not. You're doing the Ben thing, which is to be like, I'm having a. I'm having a negative reaction to something. But you know what, though? I'm gonna think it through and maybe there's more to the story. Do the Ron thing. Because I'm doing the Ronnie thing with Ben, which is to be like, you know what? This guy, sorry, he gave me bad vibes two weeks ago, the way he talked to Bailey. He gave me bad vibes last week and he gives me bad vibes now. I think this guy is shitty.
Ben
Well, to me, Ben is just kind of a non entity. I'm just pointing out the other side of it because I'm pointing out Kyle, how good Kyle is with manipulation. You know, he's really got it down where it's like if Kyle does something wrong, it's like, oh, but love her boy, or she gave me you eyes or so if you're not used to the, the baby crying, you know, it's like, oh my God, there's a baby crying. You know? Right. But then you spend a couple dinners with that baby and you're like, this baby's always crying. Put this thing in a crate.
Ronnie
Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like first time parents who like do it on the child so much. And. And then when they have their second child, they're basically just, like, duct taping the child to the side of the car door. Be like, okay, we'll see you when we get there.
Ben
They're like, baby on board.
Ronnie
Bump me. You have to sort of. You start to realize all the things that you don't have to worry about anyway. Sierra. This is where Sierra is like, honestly, I think they should just separate. This just feels different this time just feels like they're hitting their breaking point. And Jesse's like, well, it's a very tricky thing telling our friend and opinion about the relationship. I'm like, no, a tricky thing is trying to listen to your music. So Sierra's like, look, it doesn't have to be.
Ben
And I'll tell the person in a bad relationship the same thing. I'm telling you. Stop.
Ronnie
Jesse Solomon.
Ben
Yeah, I want to listen to the relationship talk. I don't want to listen to your damn songs. Everybody just be quiet, okay?
Ronnie
But Sierra's. Sierra's right, though. She's like, just separate. It doesn't have to be a legal separation. Just separate. Get your bearings, see if that helps, and then maybe you can communicate and talk properly about the issues that you guys really have, you know? And she's like, yeah, that. You just can't keep brushing everything under the rug because now the rug is just, like, enormous, and I'm tripping over rug.
Ben
There is a huge pile under the. I cannot walk across this rug. At some point, clean up the. Clean up the dirt. Just clean.
Ronnie
By the way.
Ben
Get a vacuum.
Ronnie
By the way, Sweeping things under the rug, that's like a pain in the ass, right? Like, if you have to. If you're sweeping something under the rug, you might as well be sweeping it into a dustpan. You still have to lift. You have to bend over and lift up the rug and sweep under it, right? I mean, hello, get a dust pan.
Ben
Eventually, you have to. You have to sweep or vacuum the underside of the rug. Not only the floor, but you have to turn the rug over and vacuum it because it gets nasty, and then it leaves everywhere every time the rug slides, which it does because I refuse to use rug stoppers.
Ronnie
I did not have rug stoppers for a long time, and I would, like. I had, like, one too many times where I was like Tom Cruise and Risky Business as I was just, like, trying to walk across my bedroom floor, but I was like, okay, it's time. It's time. I'm getting the things that's what I do, too.
Ben
I fall all the time. Or my. Or people fall in my house. You know, they'll be like, running, and then they slip on a rug, and the rug slides all the way across the room. And I'm like, what?
Ronnie
Just pretend you're surfing. It's fun. Yeah, it's a slip outside also. Meanwhile, cut to Amanda. And this is Amanda trying to put up this big tree. And it's poking her in the eye, and she's like, everything's going to be fine. Everything's going to be okay. Amanda, you can do this. You can. You can prop up that tree. Prop it up, prop it up. Everything's fine. Let's branches spread.
Ben
Amanda just walks over with one eye. She's like, anybody can have any money. Help me with the rest. Amanda, we're talking about how to fix your life. Okay? God, Amanda. Jesus. Amanda with a bloody eye. God. So then later, they're set. Everybody does. Well, no, they don't really help her. I think the guys jump in the
Ronnie
pool and jump in the pool and. An amazing shot, by the way. I don't know if you saw. I don't know if you really appreciated this or not, but, like, they're. They all jumped in, like, all four of them in this, like, perfect, synchronized, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I was like, well, that was beautiful. Good job. Artistry on summer house.
Ben
Well done, guys. So dara arrives and KJ's in the kitchen, and he's trying to play it cool. And she's like, dare? He's like, yeah, well, welcome. Really glad you're here. Looking deeply in the pantry for something. Can't hug you right now. Please leave me a message at the. At the beep.
Ronnie
Beep. I thought KJ was acting kind of weird. I was like, you did? He, like, barely turned to say hello to her. He didn't hug her or anything. I kind of felt bad for her because she's, you know, she didn't even. And she didn't even complain about this, by the way. Notably, she wasn't like, what the hell? He just was in the fridge and he's like, yeah, I'm just trying to figure out this fridge right now. Yeah. I'm like, literally, they said I should play it cool. And so I didn't really know what that meant. So I was like, should I put myself in the fridge? So I'm just going to hang out here for the next day. I'll see you later.
Ben
I'm sorry, KG is not available right now. He's spending A week in a crisper. So please return to this email, and I will read it when I have a chance.
Ronnie
So where are your bags at? She's like, I'm at the front. Should we do something with him? She's like, yeah, once I figure out how to close this fridge. I like kids. You gotta come up with better excuses to avoid her. Not, like, how do I close a fridge? Oh, it's complicated. It's a hinge. It's a door. Come on, kj.
Ben
He's like, I'm trying to pretend with Dara that everything's all good, but inside, I'm just, like, freaking, like, out. Like, I said, suck at, like, lying. I'm like, I feel like she can, like, tell. Yeah, she can tell. You're in the crisper. Dude,
Ronnie
you just put a gallon of milk in the crisper. What are you doing? You're out of control.
Ben
She's like, well, wait. Let me see if I can help you with this door. Wow. Look at that. It closes. Wow. That was rough. That was rough. Good thing you're dating a bully.
Ronnie
Wow. Okay. Well, let me take my purse. Okay. Let's go upstairs. Like, okay.
Ben
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Ronnie
So outside there's. They're setting up walkers and everything for this party because it's. The theme is old, old people. And west is they're. They're all just like joking. And then upstairs, Dara is like, am I staying in your room? How do you feel about having a bully in your bed? He's like, if you'd like, I'll just put your bags here for now. I'm a little worried that we didn't close that fridge door all the way. I may have to go. Okay, see you on Monday. By.
Ben
She's like, yeah, I would like, where's everyone at? It's so quiet in here. Jesus Christ. You could hear a fridge door close. And he's like, they're outside. Well, are you helping set up? What are you doing? He's like, well, like I'm kind of in work mode like right now. She goes, okay, well, I guess I'll see if I can help them. Weirdo. She's just looking at him like, what is wrong with this guy?
Ronnie
Oh, no, the fridge door. So Mia and Carl, I saw an
Ben
escalator going up and I saw an escalator going down. And I thought, oh my God, there's so many choices.
Ronnie
Scary. Mia and Carl are doing laps around the pool and motorized scooters, like the Little Rascal things for Jazzies or whatever. I was like, hey, I'm gonna get a couple ups in wait. Hey, we gotta get a ramp into this house. And then he like goes up this ramp and then he like runs over like a balloon or something. There's like a bang. And everyone gets startled. And he calls like, oh, whoa, what's my fault? Wasn't my fault. I was trying to try to drive softly. Sorry, guys.
Ben
Trying to drive soft put you back into World War I, right, Carl? Wes is like, that reminds me of trench warfare. Old people, am I right? You guys are so much closer than you realize. I wish young people really understood, like, how close we really are this whole time. My mom got a wheelchair. We got my mom a Wheelchair. Can I tell you how fun this thing is? I'm really glad they leaned into how fun being old can be in this episode, because I love that thing. I want one now. I mean, I don't want to, like, give myself bad juju, but I'm like, this is amazing. And my mom's like, yeah, yeah, now let safe people with me, you know, because that thing goes fast. You can kill a person in that thing.
Ronnie
Yeah, I, I. I bet. I bet they could just go, you know, it's. I mean, everything feels fast to me, you know? That's why I can't get on those stupid lime scooters. I'm like, whoa, danger. So, I mean, don't. Everything feels fast.
Ben
I love those things. I like them because people actually talk to you while you're on them. I was on one in Austin last week, and I was wearing those, like, Japanese silk pant things, and I was like, I thought I was gonna die, you know, because there's so many bumps in the road in Austin, too. It's not, like, a smooth ride, and I think the wheels are made out of stone, something. It's, like, not a smooth ride, but I was doing it, and I passed by, and this guy goes, love the pants, bro. And I was like, thanks, bro. I, like, gave him a little bling bling.
Ronnie
It's like, this is the way I live. That is true. I definitely do talk to people on scooters, mainly saying, get out of the way, or one of my favorites.
Ben
Sidewalk, you loser.
Ronnie
One of my favorites is, ow. You just ran me over. Because that did happen to me. I. I did get run over by a girl on a lime scooter. I walked out the door from my doctor's appointment. I stepped out on the sidewalk, and I was ba boom. This girl crashed into me, and. And, like, she fell to the ground. I was like, what?
Ben
My gosh.
Ronnie
I had. I had. I was. I was like, I cannot believe I just got run over by a girl on a lime scooter. And I was like, ow.
Ben
Did she apologize?
Ronnie
She was so embarrassed. She was so sweet that I was like, you know, that's the. You know, if you want to do a comparison to the girl who fell over to me on me on the airplane. That girl never apologized, never showed any sort of remorse. This girl was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. She was like, are you okay? I was like, are you okay? She was like, I just. I'm so. I did. I'm so. I was like, it's okay. It's okay. Everything's fine. I said, don't worry, honey. It's fine. You're totally fine. I'm just gonna talk about you on my podcast.
Ben
I'm gonna rip you a new asshole tomorrow, and I get to work. You know what was so funny? When you told. So Ben told a story about flying, and he was sleeping in, like, first class or whatever, and a lady kept coming over and falling down. She kept getting up and then falling down and then just looked straight ahead like she couldn't even see him. And it was such a funny story. And this. The comments were cracking me up because there were so many people like, oh, Ben, don't worry. It was probably just a girl on Ambien. That happens to me. I don't remember anything. Or, Ben, it was probably this. She probably had this happen, and she didn't even know it. And I was like, how many. How many women are walking around just falling onto people that there are this many comments? Like, I get it. I've been there. Don't worry.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
Everyone was saying we have an audience with, like, 30 of people just falling over on you in the middle of a store, being like, don't mind it. You know, it's my medication.
Ronnie
Yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah, I've. I've had too many people fall on top of me. That's.
Ben
That's.
Ronnie
That's the truth of it. That's why I will say.
Ben
I will say it was a money. You have so many children just wandering around the world like, who's. Where's my daddy?
Ronnie
I will say that girl who. Who crashed into me, she actually was. She actually had an impact on me because, you know, I had found out, like. Like a few days earlier or so I had found out that I actually carry the BRCA2 mutation, which actually has health risks for men and.
Ben
Oh, my gosh, I didn't know.
Ronnie
Yeah, I mean, it's. It's more. It's. I think it's. It's more of a. You know, for women, it's obviously a breast cancer risk, but, like, you know, there's other. There's elevated risks of, you know, cancer and certain things.
Ben
Oh, my gosh.
Ronnie
So when you get that news, it's like that.
Ben
That happened.
Ronnie
Yeah, Well, I mean, it's. It's fine, but it's. But you know what? When I got the news, it was like, I was like, I took it as I have cancer. I was doing the full Kim Zolciak thing. Like, I have cancer, but it's like, no, I don't have cancer. Just means I'm at higher risk. So I just have to get things checked out more, yada, yada, yada. So one of the things is that I have to get an annual mammogram, which is I'm like, as long as I've got these man tits, I might as well put them to use. Right? So I. But I was like, in this, like, I was like, oh, my God. Like, you're. It was just sort of like a very scary time to hear it. And I was literally walking out from my first ever mammogram, my man o gram. And this girl ran me over. And I really actually had a moment of thinking, you know what? I'm sitting here being like, oh, my God, I could get cancer. I could get cancer. I could get cancer. It's like, I could also just get fudgeing, run over in the street, you know? Yeah. And it kind of was like, a helpful thing to be like, you know what? Let's like, okay, you had a feel bad for yourself.
Ben
Where's the test?
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
Where you go in and they're like, you are. You are someone who runs a very high risk of women just falling on top of you or running into you with lime scooters. There's nothing we can do about it.
Ronnie
Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of like, it's one of those things, like, okay, I felt bad for myself. It was. It's a scary thing. And, you know, and like, I now am, like, you know, more careful about certain things, and I get tested about. Of things a lot more. But it's also a reminder, like, you could also, like, get hit by a bus, so.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Or some girl on a scooter or some girl on Ambien walking down the aisle of a plane, so get on with it. So.
Ben
Wow, thank you. That's great.
Ronnie
Thank you to that girl.
Ben
But you can also go get. Because, you know, I. First of all, I've never seen this, but you complain about boobs. Well, we both complained about boobs. You know, like, I've got boobs, and my first thing would be to get that shit on insurance and get. Get some boob surgery. I mean, you can, right? Is that insensitive? I don't mean it.
Ronnie
No, it's not.
Ben
I'm just trying to look at the.
Ronnie
Well, the other thing is that, like, I also have, like, what. It's sort of funny that's called this, but I have light hemophilia. And so when you are a light hemophiliac basically. Like I'm, I, I can like clot and everything, but when you do like surgeries or whatever, like you have, they have to like augment like something called Factor 8 that's in your blood. And it's just like, I don't know, I think the vibe is kind of like, you know, if you're, if you don't have to do it, like don't, don't do it.
Ben
Right.
Ronnie
Like, at least that's my vibe, you know, because it's like, let's not mess with that. Like, let's not make it too hard on my system. So I'm just stuck with these man boobs for life, unfortunately.
Ben
Oh my gosh. Wow. What a turn this took.
Ronnie
What a turn. What a turn this took. You know, just Carl going up a ramp and now you know.
Ben
Well, the broccoli, I don't know. We need to look into that. I think I'm going to be doing some googling tonight, sir. Because I come back. Well, it's very common without making your Braca 2 virus or gene about myself. So I will be, I will be doing that.
Ronnie
Lorraine Braca. Lorraine Braca mutation.
Ben
I.
Ronnie
It's very common in, in Ashkenazi Jewish populations. So, you know, that's. Yeah. Is it? Is it?
Ben
I never heard that. That's crazy.
Ronnie
I hadn't heard that either. But I don't want to know.
Ben
I just don't want to know. I just, I just tell the doctor. Don't tell me. Just write it down. I know, you know, I, I just. It's too hard. Okay, the point is Amanda has a tree limb in her eyeball. Okay, so Amanda's outside, like, so Dara goes down to say hi to the rest of the gang and she's like, wow, you're already really rosy there. West. What we didn't use. We don't use sunscreen in this home. Bully. Dara. I just got him. Just nailed him.
Ronnie
This is like, Wes is like, did you take the train or did you drive? I'm not like Danielle, that crazy girl who I always see at the train station. I drove, okay? Because I was in Fire Island.
Ben
Gay man love me.
Ronnie
That's kind of like I feel like what she was saying.
Ben
I left gay people to be here. Okay, so make it good.
Ronnie
Gay people and deer ticks. So then Ben comes up and. And they hugs like, cheers. How's it going? Did you hear Love boys in the tank? And she's like, cheers. For a second I forgot you were Australian. You just got dared.
Ben
Well, I Never forgot. There's nothing he's ever said where I was like, oh, he's normal. So KJ takes out trash, and he's sighing. He's like, oh, my God, I'm just so stressed. I guess I'll take out the trash.
Ronnie
The camera kind of lingers on this moment, and they put up a time stamp at 146. I was like, oh, something's gonna happen. Is he gonna be out there for, like, three hours? It'll be like, 2:30. KJ's still out there, but, like, nothing ever happened. He just took out the trash and
Ben
was like, it's just like a man in America is taking out the trash voluntarily. There must be something deeply psychologically wrong. Sit there and stare at it for a while. Wonder.
Ronnie
So Amanda's running her scooter around. Kyle's cleaning the kitchen. He's like, I'm a little bit in a weird mood. Oh, yeah? Why are you in a weird mood? Do you want to get in the mix with me? It's like, nah, just, like, keep overthinking things and just like, oh, started my life. I overthink things. Except, of course, you know, brick and mortar. Just go straightforward with that one Good Guy Claus.
Ben
Yeah, it's just like, I just keep letting my. My happiness get hijacked. You are the hijacker. You're like a terrorist on a plane, you know, complaining about the use of box cutters. You are the terrorist. You are the one. You're the emotional terrorist. Get to switch this over to somebody else. Sir.
Ronnie
I remember what, like, set me off. Here, I'll give you. I'll give you a. A reminder. It was nothing. Nothing set you off.
Ben
It was literally nothing to your DJ show in the living room. Okay, well, I don't know what set you off. I don't know. I. I mean, I kind of know, but I don't want to talk about. I don't want to talk about you. Eyes. You.
Ronnie
I'm, like, the worst version of myself this summer. It's like. It's like my BPMs are, like, not matching up. I just can't do a CrossFit right now, and I'm just, like, not able to articulate anything. I give Amanda all these perfect instances where I, like, mess up or throw them off or I say you or stay out late. And meanwhile, there's just, like, so many fundamental things that are wrong with our foundations of our relationship. And, like, I'm just, like, I'm unrelatable. Like, no one understands what I'm Going through. So it's just, like, very isolating, and I just makes me feel like I should just, like, give up. But I've got, like, so much best in my marriage and my business, and just doesn't seem like an option. I'm just trying to hold on. Oh, God.
Ben
So then we go to Amanda setting up still, and they're just basically trying to help her. She's like, are you guys gonna help me? And they all jump in the pool. So they start putting on their costumes now, and they all look hilarious, and they're old. I'm surprised that they did this because this was the last season of Vanderpump Rules. I mean, this was when we knew. It was when they.
Ronnie
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Ben
They've done that on. They've done this on this show before, haven't they, the old people?
Ronnie
I feel like they have. I'm, like, a little over the theme parties, to be honest. So there's, like. There's all sorts of. The couches are coming out, and KJ is sitting in the grass to see her and Mia and cages. Like, he's like, so you're gonna wear, like, a fat suit or whatever? And. And Sierra saying she has to paint her titties. And she's. He's like, what? Oh, my God. So what's your costume? And she gets. Sierra goes like, goes, do you know Karma Brown? He's like, no, why would I know? You're. You're one off character that was featured in, like, part of a season of this show from three years ago.
Ben
It's like, well, you will know. And so she's like, yeah, you're gonna get to know now. So then they're talking about Dara, and they're like, well, Dara's here. And he's like, yeah, but, like, I literally, like, had, like, a panic attack when I saw her because, like. Like, yeah, like, low key. I was just, like, rethinking because, like, you know, I heard all these conversations, like, just be careful, you know, and, like, people just, like, care. But, you know, like, I'm already in my head and, like, I'm just trying to protect myself because I do like her. And Sierra says, you know, I always say to myself, it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. You should write that down, because that is a really good. That's a really good saying that could take off. Still.
Ronnie
Still doesn't excuse the Austin romance, but that's fine. It's fine. So, yeah, she basically, like, you know, whatever. It's, like, worth it. It's worth it to get hurt rather than to never try. So go for it. Don't worry. But by the way, I'm also like, this is way too deep for this situation with Dara. Okay? It's like, you guys are just starting to date, and the story is that she hung out with Ben for an hour in a room, and, like, we're acting as if she's asking you to move in with her. So Mia's like, yeah, you're allowed to love and have those experiences. And Sierra says that, like, I. You know, after that conversation we had last night, I can see how KJ is probably really apprehensive about bringing a girl to the house and dating or whatever. And if there's any interracially dating and if there's anyone who can relate, it's me. But you can't not do things out of fear. The other side wins if you do that. Cut to Amanda still getting poked in the eye with a tree. Like,
Ben
can someone get. I'm stuck under this wheelchair. Like, whatever, Amanda.
Ronnie
So Sierra basically says, just, like, breathe in. This is like, she basically. Let's meditate. Yeah.
Ben
So then Amanda's looking for Kyle because his glam people have come. So Nina's here, guys. Everyone's like, oh, my God, it's Nina. Hi, Nina. Oh, my God, it's Nina. So Nina, I guess, is a big, big deal. So Nina's going to be doing the old man glam. And then Ben's friend comes over, an Aussie named Matt, and he's like, oh, wow, look at that. Is this your bedroom? You had a wank in there yet?
Ronnie
Congratulations. Happy anniversary, mountain kitty. Good to see you. Welcome to the mix. You're in it. And then. Then Dara is like, oh, are. Hey, are you gonna get changed? We get changed. They go up to his room. Darren, kj. And in the meantime, Carl and Jesse joins Jesse and Kyle in the living room. And Carl. I kind of feel bad for Carl because his costume for dressing up like an old man was just, like, putting on glasses. I was like, oh.
Ben
Carl's like, yeah, I'll go running. So that ages me plenty. I just put some gray in my hair and some glasses on. I'm ready to go.
Ronnie
I was like, he didn't really have
Ben
to do much, did he, to get aging makeup. I lived the last five years of my life. Oh. So, yeah, I'm in the aging mix. Okay. I'm here. So they make fun of his Crocs because he's still wearing his Crocs. And he's like, it's a cry for help, guys. Yeah, I'll record for all behind crowd's like, well, my cries for help come out weird times of the night in the worst possible way, I guess. And they just ignore it because they're like, we're not talking to Kyle about being an on his birthday, so it's just crickets. Meanwhile, me and Sierra are getting their old lady outfits on. And then we go to KJ's room. They're talking about their outfits, and he's like, whoa, sorry if there's, like, weird vibes today or, like, whatever. But, like, maybe there's like, weird. I don't know if you could feel it, but, like, I couldn't close a refrigerator door. So, like, I don't know if you want to, like, talk about. I don't. But, like, I don't need to if you need to, though, so I don't, like, spit it out. What?
Ronnie
So, yeah, I was in my head earlier, and, like, I'm fine now, but, like, you know why it happened? She's like, no. Was it because you spent too much time putting your head in the fridge? Yeah. Well, I was, like, talking to Lindsay earlier, and she told me that Bailey told her that the night that you were here, that you were in Ben's room for an hour. And then Dara does this very sick comedy thing where she's hanging. No, I was like, okay, not true.
Ben
Absolutely not true.
Ronnie
I was like, okay. She's. I was like, okay, now I know who Dara is. She is in theater club, and she auditioned to be a child actor on an ABC sitcom. Like, I. I see you, Dara. I see you for who you are. But I don't know. That annoyed me so much when she did that. Like, it was, like, so performative, and it made me be like, is it true that was such a sitcom turn that you just did? I don't know if I trust you anymore. But she says she was. She's like, I was literally in Ben's room because I put my stuff in there and I changed and I came right back out. That's why I was in there. I was bullying him, too. Stupid Aussie. Didn't even remember he was an Aussie until he took out a picture of a koala. Stupid.
Ben
But, like, Bailey apparently said that you were, like, there for, like, an hour talking with. With Ben. She goes, what? Well, that, like, that just factually never happened. And if it did, I'd be like, yeah, I was we were talking, getting to know each other. Who cares? Like, it just like, literally never happened. And he goes, yeah, but then, like, literally, like, I was like, having so much thoughts in my head, like, what, she actually low key? Like, what if she actually low key likes Ben? And then this is just like. I don't know, it's like, crazy, right, Chick? No, it's not really crazy. I would have anxiety if I thought you like someone else. So, no, I don't think it's over. I like that she's, like, harsh, but also very sensitive, you know? She's like, well, no, you're not crazy and I would feel sensitive. So, no, I don't feel like you're being oversensitive at all. And he's like, yeah, but, like, I don't want you to think, like, I was being, like, hella over sensitive or whatever when you came. But, like, you know, I just. I just wanted to know, like, how does cold air even stay in a refrigerator?
Ronnie
No, I mean, I can get why you were trying to process that and trying to figure out the fridge and, like, didn't necessarily want to interact. And to be fair, like, the refrigerator is, like, really fascinating if you really think about it. A crispr? Like, how does that even work? Right? But, like, genuinely, the person I had an interest in with was you. It's like, yeah, because, like, I'm glad, okay? I'm glad we talked about this because, like, I just wanted to get it off my chest a bit because I just was like, in my head. Yeah, well, I'm glad you. You said that. And it does seem a bit sabotaging that Bailey would just start saying things baselessly. Yeah, I think she said it on the way home or something. On the way home. Even worse. And to be honest with you, I don't care where she said it. I just care that she said it.
Ben
He's like, oh, I just started some. She's like, well, I just don't understand it, but maybe I can have a conversation with her and clear things up. And he's like, I guess we'll see next weekend. She's like, I can't wait. Oh, God, help Bailey. Bailey's gonna get it.
Ronnie
Yeah, Bailey is gonna get it. What did I miss?
Ben
She went to a wedding or something. Where'd she. And how come Levi doesn't get to come without Bailey? Were they just somewhere that they had to be together?
Ronnie
Yeah, I think they have to be together. And, like, clearly, like, everyone has a week where they're not allowed to be on the show. It's like either they're. They don't have enough room or it's too much for Bravo to have too this many cast members. But every season, they always have like, someone's like, oh, yeah, I can't come out tonight, this weekend because I'm bringing my mom to Costco.
Ben
So it's a big deal. It's a big deal. My mom really, she was really into Sam's club. I'm really trying to make a positive change in her life.
Ronnie
So, yeah, we'll buy some popcorn boxes because they're striped. Oh, yeah.
Ben
So got a boner on a popsicle box. Yeah.
Ronnie
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Ben
That's funny because everyone says he's like Robin Williams. So then Mia is Mia comes down and her old lady outfit, and she's playing it up. She looks. They all look really good, actually. Their costumes have gotten really good on the show. So they're all talking to each other like old people. She's like, well, that Betty's being crazy. You know how she is now. And so they're all cracking up at each other's old people outfit. And then Carl comes down in his normal Carl thing, but with gray hair and glasses. And Lindsay goes, oh, my God, did you just bring your hair gray just because everybody loved it two years ago? And he goes, oh, I mean, yeah, probably. She goes, yeah, I knew it. I knew it. Needy Carl. Loser Carl. Yeah, nice.
Ronnie
We have a flashback to that weird sci fi party where he was like, playing an alien with silver hair. So they basically more people are walking in. It's just everyone's coming in. And then here comes Sierra and she is doing Karma Brown, but old Karma Brown. And her costume is that she has added prosthetic long, droopy boobs onto her chest. And it's like, very funny. And that's impressive.
Ben
And Sierra's like, straight, gay, whatever. Everybody loves tits. Show me someone that doesn't want to juggle them or put it. Put their face in a tit. So she goes around. That's just like a wacky. Like, old people. We're old now. So all the guests start to come, and girls are surrounding west and, like, grabbing his boobs, and he's like, guys, consent. Consent first. And Amanda's still asking for help. God bless her. This time it's in character at least. She's like, we need help picking up this lady's cigarette. I'll do it. I guess nobody's gonna help me.
Ronnie
Yeah. Wes and Kyler on scooters in the back, and people just keep on arriving and arriving and arriving. A lot of scooter time. Now Jesse and West are on scooters, and now they're, like, watching everyone. And Wes is like. Like, everyone looks so good. I'm so proud. And I know that Sierra's in costume is, like, the costume queen or whatever, but this one is, like, unreal. It's so good. Then Jesse's like, yeah, and this guy looks great. Look at Kyle over here. Because, like, you know what? Everything deals right now because he's got, like, your hair and nose hair and everything. So it's like this.
Ben
So actually looks like he should look, but he sometimes miraculously still looks 20. So Jesse and West gossip. Jesse's like, I mean, I think it's crazy that Sierra was saying that they should split up. Like, I was not expecting that. And he's like, yeah. I mean, you know, now we've seen him for three years, so has there ever been a moment where you're like, I get it. He's like, yeah. I mean, I just thought they were each other's person. You know, nothing's perfect. You know, you. You fight and stuff. Like, married people have issues. I mean, I don't know. And Wes is like, yeah, there's good and bad, but I'd like to see more good because. Yikes.
Ronnie
Yeah, exactly. He's like, I've never witnessed anything that would make up for what she went through last night. And we see flashbacks, too, last night of Amanda saying, this is the best I'm ever gonna do. So west is like, if I see someone give a nice gift to someone, it's probably because they're shitty in every other way possible. And he's referring to the Cartier watch that. That Kyle gave Amanda.
Ben
That's what I said the second I saw that watch, I was like, oh, who has he got? Gotten pregnant? Because that man is doing something very, very bad.
Ronnie
It's like, in The Wolf of Wall street, when he starts banging hookers every day and it's like. And then starts like DJing and then like handing out lover boy in the movie. It's like. That's just like that. It's your bad.
Ben
So are you gonna talk to Kyle, you think, bro? He's like, yeah. I mean, I just can't not address it. Especially dressed like Mrs. Doubtfire. So let's see.
Ronnie
To be continued.
Ben
Interestingly enough, Mrs. Doubtfire, a film about a up of a man who makes the wife out to be a total the entire time because he can't get his together. Interesting, interesting, interesting correlation. While you're talking to Kyle about this.
Ronnie
Well, I look forward to seeing West's sheepish confrontation of Kyle while they're dressed as geriatric folks. That'll be great. That'll be a great thing to watch. But always to be continued. Yeah, to be continued. Which means we do not get a preview of next week's episode. That's the thing, when you see to be continued, they don't give you even a tease. So we'll just have to see what happens. But fun times over in the Hamptons, that's for sure.
Ben
All right, everybody. Well, thanks so much for being here. We will be back tomorrow with a double dose of Charleston Southern charm and Southern hospitality. We'll talk to you next time.
Ronnie
Bye.
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Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode: #3278
Date: March 25, 2026
Theme: A hilarious, incisive breakdown of Summer House S10E8 (Part Two), with the usual razor-sharp observations, Bravo deep-cuts, and irreverent tone Ben and Ronnie are known for.
Ben and Ronnie dive into their detailed and comedic recap of Summer House Season 10, Episode 8 ("Old Man (Cry Me a) River"), part two. They unpack the looming business casualties, relationships under pressure, the ongoing saga of Kyle and Amanda, and the group’s "old people" theme party, all shaded by their signature mockery and Bravo expertise. Emotional moments (including real-life health revelations) meet relentless banter as the hosts balance affection with merciless ribbing of the cast and each other.
(02:20–04:57)
"That is stressful. It is scary and it will weigh on you, but guess what? This stuff was happening before, when Loverboy was doing really well." (Ronnie, 04:57)
(04:57–08:13)
“There is a huge pile under the— I cannot walk across this rug. At some point, clean up the dirt.” (Ben, 08:04)
“Sweeping things under the rug, that's like a pain in the ass, right? ...Get a dust pan.” (Ronnie, 08:13)
(09:07–09:44)
(10:00–11:24)
“I'm just trying to figure out this fridge right now. Yeah. I'm like, literally, they said I should play it cool. So should I put myself in the fridge?” (Ronnie’s KJ, 10:53)
(13:59–17:04)
“I like them because people actually talk to you while you're on them...” (Ben, 16:25)
(19:04–22:11)
“You know, I had found out... that I actually carry the BRCA2 mutation... It was just sort of like a very scary time to hear it. And I was literally walking out from my first ever mammogram, my man o gram. And this girl ran me over. And I really actually had a moment of thinking, you know what? ...You could also just get fudgeing, run over in the street, you know?” (Ronnie, 19:41–20:38)
(24:36–26:12)
“You are the hijacker. You're like a terrorist on a plane, you know, complaining about the use of box cutters... You're the emotional terrorist!” (Ben, 24:56)
(36:55–39:15)
(39:15–40:36)
“If I see someone give a nice gift to someone, it's probably because they're shitty in every other way possible.” (Wes, 39:53)
(31:13–34:01)
“She is in theater club, and she auditioned to be a child actor on an ABC sitcom. Like, I see you, Dara.” (Ronnie, 31:40)
“There’s always an excuse, you know, that he finally. Yeah, it’s like, there’s always something like, the world can be crashing down around you, but you want to know your husband’s not just because there's a war outside. Your husband’s not going to turn you and go, well, you, you know, you need someone the most when shit is going bad.” (Sierra, quoted by Ben, 03:58)
“I have to remind myself that Ben is new to Kyle and we’ve had 10 years of Kyle. Everybody else has seen Kyle for years doing this and then pulling the victim card and crying and being upset because everyone hurt his feelings when he doesn’t get his way.” (Ronnie, 05:20)
“First time parents like do it on the child so much...when they have their second child, they’re basically just, like, duct taping the child to the side of the car door.” (Ronnie, 06:47)
“Amanda...tries to prop up a tree alone... mirroring her struggles in her relationship.” (Ben & Ronnie, 09:07–09:44)
“Who has he gotten pregnant? Because that man is doing something very, very bad.” (Ben on Kyle’s Cartier gift, 40:15)
“Interestingly enough, Mrs. Doubtfire, a film about a f---up of a man who makes the wife out to be a total bitch the entire time because he can’t get his shit together. Interesting, interesting, interesting correlation. (Ben, 40:48)
This episode blends sharp Summer House insight, personal vulnerability, and relentless Bravo satire. The hosts balance genuine sympathy for the cast’s real-life issues (business failure, relationship stress, health scares) with relentless (and often hilarious) roasting. Costume parties, emotional manipulation, and the endless saga of Kyle and Amanda’s relationship are interrogated with both affection and exasperation.
To be continued...
(Next week: Will West actually confront Kyle in an old lady costume? Will Amanda ever get help with that tree?)