#3286 Married To Medicine S12E16 Part Two: Take Your Menicine

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3286 – Married to Medicine S12E16 Part Two: Take Your Menicine

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: March 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode is the second part of Ben and Ronnie’s hilarious, sharply observational recap of the Married to Medicine Season 12 reunion. The theme is all about accountability, long-simmering feuds, and the chaos that erupts when husbands (and their insecurities) crash a women-driven charity event. The hosts dissect the drama from the perspective of both cast and Bravo fandom, balancing affectionate mocking, sharp shade, and genuine appreciation for the cast’s messiness.
If you love recaps that tell you exactly why people are fighting and who still owes for gala tickets, this is your episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Husbands' Segment: Accountability & Retaliation

• Men step up (or don’t):
  • Damon is pushed to address whether he talks with Heavenly about her stirring drama. He admits:

    “We talk about everything. ... Don’t say certain things about the guys because then they address you in the wrong way, and it becomes an issue for me.” (Damon, 04:46)

• The Guys' Take:
  • The men agree the women’s drama spills over into their relationships, leading to hurt feelings. Damon jokes:

    "It hurt bad. Hurt Curtis or Steve. It hurt. Definitely hurt you. Hurt me, hurt Andy, maybe hurt the person over craft services, hurt the person at the front door. So many people have been hurt by the women saying things all the time." (Damon, 04:13)

• Steve and Eugene's spat:
  • Steve talks about taking accountability as a man, shots are fired at Eugene for allegedly deflecting, leading to bickering and finger-pointing about who’s really responsible for various messes.

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2. Reunion Reunites: Love Languages and Marital Grievances

• Couples Therapy—Bravo Style:
  • The group discusses changes from girlfriend/boyfriend phase to married life. Highlights:
    • Curtis jokes about sex being more frequent as a girlfriend than a wife, leading to a hilarious volley about unrealistic expectations:

      "Can you imagine being married that long and your man is still demanding it 15 times a week? Get the hell out. Get 15 different penises on you and then we'll consider it." (Brandy, 07:37)

    • Steve and Mimi talk candidly about raising a child with special needs and the toll it takes, emphasizing regular "check-ins" to keep their marriage healthy.
    • Simone clarifies the misconception about her paying all of Cecil’s bills and describes their evolving financial boundaries.

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3. THE MET GALA MELTDOWN: WHO OWES WHAT?

• Charity Confusion and Accusations:
  • The husbands exit and the full cast is back to dissect the never-ending Met Gala charity ticket drama:
    • Steve accuses Eugene of targeting him at the door and not being fair, while Toya and others argue over who paid, who didn’t, and whether entry was “strategically targeted.”
    • Jackie attempts a voice of reason, but the hosts and cast alike are left confused:

      “If Jackie paid for a table and told them they were allowed to sit at the table without getting a ticket, why did you have to have a ticket if you also had a table? ... Why are you gonna make me sit through two and a half hours and not answer very basic, basic questions? I’m pissed.” (Brandy, 25:07)

    • Contessa points out Eugene shouldn’t be confronting guests about their payments—it should be the women’s responsibility.

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4. Behind the Scenes: Insecurities & Jock vs. Nerd Dynamics

• Personal Shade:
  • Backstage, Steve hints that Eugene's attitude at the charity event was due to insecurity over his wife’s attraction to him, which devolves into toxic masculinity chest-puffing:

    “I’m really telling you the truth. I’m a very attractive man, and your wife kind of wants to do me. What else do I have to say? It’s clear as day.” (Steve, 27:06)

  • The hosts dissect this as classic jock-vs-nerd drama, with Ben noting men quickly regress into high school social roles:

    "I think men, we really fall back into our high school roles very, very quickly. ... Like, Eugene’s just the little nerd, and Steve is, like, the jock." (Ben, 28:17)

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5. Group Reflections & Season Conclusions

• Final Thoughts from the Cast:
  • Angel and Brandy reflect on joining the group, with Angel expressing gratitude for meeting “amazing, intelligent, beautiful, successful women of color.” (Angel, 30:48)
  • Toya brands herself a “truth fighter,” while Heavenly teases a possible run for Congress but dodges confirming she’d leave the show.
  • Simone and Heavenly confront ongoing wounds, with Simone insisting:

    “You have assassinated so many characters. Heavenly, nothing has been done to you that you didn’t do first.” (Simone, 35:04)

• Jackie closes with a rally for unity:

  “We just need to operate in love, and we can do this. ... You’re never going to get rid of me, and you’re never going to, so you might as well put me back on the friend list.” (Jackie, 36:01)

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6. The Quad Comeback & Housewives Plotting

• Quad’s Arc:
  • The hosts praise Quad for being more present this season, shifting away from her “outsider” status and self-producing tendencies.

    “This is, to me, my favorite Quad season in many years. ... This was the Quad I fell in love with back in season one.” (Ben, 38:00–39:03)

• Toya’s Evolution:
  • Ronnie notes giving Toya a hobby (the gala) kept her engaged and less antagonistic.
• Futures & Farewells:
  • The women toast to a future season as the hosts end with their signature fake sponsor credits and a tease for the next wild Bravo premieres.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Damon, on drama overflow: "So many people have been hurt by the women saying things all the time. Women just start drama. That's what's happening." (04:13)
• Brandy, on marital sex expectations: "Can you imagine being married that long and your man is still demanding it 15 times a week? Get the hell out. Get 15 different penises on you and then we'll consider it." (07:37)
• Steve, on accountability: "Real men stand up and take accountability, even if they're not wrong. But when you don't do that and you deflect, now we've got a problem." (05:12)
• Brandy, on charity confusion: “Why are you gonna make me sit through two and a half hours and not answer very basic, basic questions? I'm pissed. I'm rescinding your 501Cs thing.” (25:07)
• Steve, firing personal shots: “I'm really telling you the truth. I'm a very attractive man, and your wife kind of wants to do me. What else do I have to say? It's clear as day.” (27:06)
• Simone, on being hurt by Heavenly: “You've assassinated so many characters. Heavenly, nothing has been done to you that you didn't do first.” (35:04)
• Jackie, closing the reunion: “We just need to operate in love, and we can do this... You're never going to get rid of me, and you're never going to, so you might as well put me back on the friend list.” (36:01)
• Toya, recapping with signature confusion: "Okay, here's my speech... Let's not forget that. So don't forget you were inspirational. Okay. Don't forget it. Okay, now the season 13 and season 12 and season 10. That was a good one. Season 19, maybe. That's all right." (40:16)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:34 | Husbands discuss wives’ drama & accountability | | 06:16 | Reunion resumes: couples on love languages, sex, support | | 11:03 | Addressing fertility drama & public apologies | | 13:21 | Met Gala ticket/charity feud breaks out | | 20:31 | Eugene explains why he policed gala tickets | | 25:07 | Brandy’s frustration—no resolution on the charity issue | | 26:05 | Steve claims Eugene's insecure about his looks | | 28:17 | Ben dissects jock vs. nerd roles among the husbands | | 35:04 | Simone confronts Heavenly about social media attacks | | 36:01 | Jackie’s unifying monologue | | 39:03 | Hosts praise Quad’s growth and presence this season | | 40:16 | Toya’s unique closing toast |

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Final Thoughts

Ben and Ronnie, in their classic blend of adoration, sarcasm, and Bravo-insider logic, break down every confusing ticket feud, ego squabble, and alliance shift with specificity and humor. They call out the show's “mismanaged” charity event, the cast’s cyclical grudges, shifting group dynamics, and the Bravo phenomenon of “job assignments” for cast members.

Whether you’re a fan who craves the nitty-gritty of Met Gala accounting, loves watching men become petty, or just shows up for Quad’s one-liners, this recap gives you all the context, color, and quotable shade you need to keep up with the explosive Married to Medicine reunion.

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Transcript

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[Brandy Howard]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

[Andy Cohen]

So Scott's like, but Damon, you gotta realize that your wife will say anything at any time about anybody, even if it's a rumor and she's gonna bring it out or she has said some untruth, too. And so a lot of times, you know, what you're hearing can be retaliation against what your wife said, because we know your wife has definitely said something about everybody. And Simone's backstage being like, yes,

[Brandy Howard]

thank you. Someone heard me yelling at the tv. And Damon's like, to the people that I feel accountable for, I apologize. Because she's the person she is, and she's going to say things that she's going to say, but I haven't done it, and I've never disrespected anybody. So, you know, the truth is, they shouldn't say things bad about me. You know, there was no reason for that. And they cut to Simone. It's like, it doesn't matter because you. You're with Heavenly. I love that Simone won't stop, even backstage.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah. And Damon's like, I'm not gonna say something to Mimi or Jack here. I'm not gonna say it on Twitter. I could go down a lot. So Cecil's like, do you feel like any of the guys have disrespected or say anything about any of the wives? Because I think that's the issue. It's not the guys. It's the women. They get into it, and then they allow that to spill over into our stuff. And so Eugene's point, earlier, we didn't. We didn't used to do that, but now we would have discussions, and they weren't. And they. They weren't always pretty. But once we got it out of our system, we were able to move on. And we're different now. And I know some of the stuff the ladies have said. I've heard some. You know, I've heard some. Some people say that I love. It's like, it's the women who did this. So Damon's like, yeah, man, it hurt bad. Hurt Curtis or Steve. It hurt. Definitely hurt you. Hurt me, hurt Andy, maybe hurt the person over craft services, Hurt the person at the front door. So many people have been hurt by the women saying things all the time. Women just start drama. That's what's happening.

[Brandy Howard]

And he says, well, I'm not making the assumptions that you guys don't speak to your wives. And Damon. Damon's like, yeah, and you guys may have been making the assumption that I've not spoken to Heavenly. And Andy's like, wait, have you spoken to Heavenly? Goes, of course. We talk about everything. Unless one of our kids has Been arrested. And I think if something's wrong, I'll say it's wr. And I tell her, don't say certain things about the guys because then they address you in the wrong way, and it becomes an issue for me. And. And he says, well, did she take your advice? And Damon just goes, she's gotten better. And everybody starts cracking up.

[Andy Cohen]

Wow. So Steve is like, but what Damon just said was, take accountability, though. And what he said when he said. He just said, hey, if she's done something to offend, I'm sorry. And real men stand up and take accountability, even if they're not wrong. But when you don't do that and you deflect, now we've got a problem. And Eugene's like, I don't deflect. I don't. Well, a hit dog will holler because I didn't say you. It's like, that's fine. Well, who are you talking about? I think it's very obvious and clear, like, you're talking about Eugene, then.

[Brandy Howard]

Steve's not the brightest guy. It's truly funny to watch Steve argue. I did say you. Well, then who? I think it's obvious, okay. And Eugene's like, Mr. Bush, I suppose. And he goes, well, hey, he said it. And Eugene goes, I guess all the hot hit dogs just hollered. And Andy's like, well, we're gonna leave it there and get the ladies back out here. Thanks a lot, guys. Please, just. Just go. Just go, guys. And Dame is like, dang, auntie, we got so many questions this year. Wow.

[Andy Cohen]

So now. Commercial break. And now the. Now we have everyone together coming onto the stage. So Eugene is like, hey, look who's holding hands. Because it's Simone and Jackie coming onto the stage together. And it's like, we are back. Okay, we got the man. We got the women all together, as it is meant to be in the Bible. That was for you, Curtis. This season, our couples try to step up their communication by mastering their partner's love language. But at the end of the day, this group was only fluent in words of confrontation.

[Brandy Howard]

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[Andy Cohen]

So we have the Jamaica couples trip segment.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay? There was a lot to talk about versus wife duties versus girlfriend duties on the trip. Fellas, what's something your wife does now that you would never have asked for when she was your girlfriend? And Kurt and Heavenly's like, oh, my God. That's the wrong one to ask.

[Andy Cohen]

Curtis is like, sex. Honestly, I think Curtis and Jackie had more sex than they lead off to. I truly believe.

[Brandy Howard]

I believe they have Sex in the car, that PT Cruiser. And Mimi's like, I think Jackie's a little closet freak. So Curtis says, yeah, but we've got goals that we're not hitting. And Jackie's like, oh, the 15 times a week. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Can you imagine being married that long and your man is still demanding it 15 times a week? Get the hell out. Get. Get 15 different penises on you, and then we'll consider it.

[Andy Cohen]

It's a lot. I see. So what's the number one thing Simone would do as a girlfriend that she doesn't do as a wife? He's like, well, as a girlfriend, Simone was a lot more mild mannered, and we wouldn't debate as much, and she would give me a pass a lot more. Well, I had to get my ring. Yeah, I was a lot more right back then.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay. Mimi and Steve research shows couples raising children with special needs face higher divorce risk. What do you do to protect your marriage? And they talk about how they do check ins. And Mimi's like, we do check ins, and this is check in Mimi. And, you know, we have to make sure that we're intentionally dating each other and that I'm checking his love languages. Has his love language changed? What do I need to do now? How can I serve you? How can I serve you? You can serve me by not saying love languages ever again,

[Andy Cohen]

please. Does his finger get cold when he's wagging it so much? Should I crochet a little hat to go on top of his fingertips?

[Brandy Howard]

Would that be convenient? Would that be convenient for Steve? And Steve's like, I have to tell her she's doing an amazing job, you know, because we fall short, but we need reminders from each other. You're doing a good job. You're doing a good job, and we're raising an amazing child, regardless of special needs or not. And so now they talk about this. Was it hard to share this on national television? And they talk about this again. But we already did this last week. This is like part of the retreads.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah. She says it's hard. She goes to therapy every two weeks, preventatively. Because it's gonna be a battle for the rest of her life, which is really intense that you know. And so Andy's like, Simone, your biggest complaint was feeling like the men in your life were not supporting you. You were working and paying for everyone and everything. Has it changed?

[Brandy Howard]

She.

[Andy Cohen]

So Simone says, there is a slight misconception that I'm paying all of Cecil's bills. Cecil has Two jobs. One is he gets a nickel for every time he cleans out the dishwasher. And two, he babysits the kids.

[Brandy Howard]

Two, he is a bartender in the basement bar. It's a lot of tips.

[Andy Cohen]

Andy, why don't we find out what his jobs are?

[Brandy Howard]

By the way, I mentioned the jobs. I'm assuming the one is Real Realty. Right? He's a realtor.

[Andy Cohen]

Let's see. LinkedIn.

[Brandy Howard]

I think it's this one. And. And being a real estate agent, I think so. She says they split the household bills, and he asks if they've cut the boys off. And she's like, no, because they're making gradual changes. We're creating more boundaries now. Instead of getting him a car, I got him a car that he has to plug in. So it's teaching him responsibility. Well, as a parent, seeing what Michael said to you, and she goes, oh, my God, he's so spoiled.

[Andy Cohen]

Well, it's a little jarling.

[Brandy Howard]

Jarring. And I've got to tell you something. And Jackie says, simone, I think you just need Cecil to help you in that battle. And she's like, well, I just need Cecil on the days I'm coming with. No, he needs to show up and said, your mom and I have a discussion, and we don't agree with this. Versus throwing me under the bus. So now Cecil knows, and he's trying to do better.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah. All right. Curtis, you sparked some backlash when you told King that their fertility struggles were because they were out of order. People kind of felt like you crossed the line there. Have anything to say? And he's like, well, I didn't understand the magnitude of the struggles that you guys were having with the process. So I do apologize. And if I ever offended you or hurt you or said anything in any form or fashion, I invite you to sit on my lap and we can talk it out.

[Brandy Howard]

Sit on my lap so I can wiggle a little bit underneath you and read you the Bible. That'd be great. Well, I'm so happy that Curtis took ownership for that, and I'm happy that Curtis could talk to Quad and King and move forward. I'm happy that I could force Curtis into doing that. And Andy's like, okay, so the Met gala brought some drama. Steve, you felt Eugene making you pay to get in wasn't fair. Isn't it a charity, and everyone's just giving money to the same pot? And he's like, no, it was very strategic, and it was targeted, and it was very intentional and not very convenient. And this didn't have anything to do about a ticket. And Tori's like, everybody knew they had to pay to get in. And Mimi's like, no, they did not. No, they did not. People did not know. We did not know.

[Andy Cohen]

Not knowing Mimi is here. So Steve is like, well, they didn't. They didn't give anything last year, and they want to hide behind the year before just for giving some money. Well, you don't know what you're talking about. They didn't give anything, Steve. You don't know what you're talking about. No, no, you didn't give anything last year. The money was given to Jackie. And Jackie's right here shaking her head yes, Hassle, carve. And Heavenly is like, that's just a lie. And Steve is like, they didn't. They didn't give anything. Listen. They didn't give anything. Anything at all.

[Brandy Howard]

Stop talking, Steve. Just stop talking.

[Andy Cohen]

No, no. Let's hear him. Let's hear him. He's a football player, so, you know, he's gotta have some body under there. Let's hear what he has to say. Maybe he'll take his shirt off.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, you can't win with Toya because she's just gonna lie because, you know, Toya. Toya's just a dumb bitch.

[Andy Cohen]

Well, you know nothing about the finances of the Met Gala. Well, we were given more. We were. We've given more in one year than they've given in three. How about that? That's a fact. And there you have it now, Andy, it's like, yeah, that's a fact. We were strategically targeted at the door. Doorway targeted.

[Brandy Howard]

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[Brandy Howard]

So Tori is like, you were not strategically targeted. What does that mean? I addressed it with Eugene, and Eugene deflected it again. And he won't take accountability. And Eugene's like, I took quite the accountability. You should pay. I accountability the money, and it was short 150 because you did not pay. And he's like, you can't hold the fellas to a standard that you don't hold yourself to. You want Damon to apologize for Heavenly, and he is still not giving money, but you won't apologize for your wife, and that's not right. Okay, wait, stop. First of all, you guys, I need this cleared up, and Andy is not helping me in this situation. So he's saying, Toya hasn't paid for two years. As far as we know, that's true. Tori hasn't paid for two years. And now Tori is saying that she did pay last year and that Jackie's agreeing with her. But we never hear Jackie agree with her. So did she pay last year or not? No, you guys, I don't think that she paid. I don't think she did not pay.

[Andy Cohen]

No one. No, she did not pay. So basically, Steve is like. He's like, that's not right. That's not right. And toy goes, well, nobody asked labor to apologize for Heavenly. And Eugene is like, you're not the judge of me, man. Like, roll the tape. Roll the tape. So Simone's Like, I understand your perspective from the Met Gala. However, if someone is throwing. If they're having a gathering, they have the right to turn you away. And we've seen it numerous times. And Mimi's life, but, like, hold everyone to that same. And someone goes, she did. She fussed at everyone. She fussed at me, even me.

[Brandy Howard]

She's like, she rolled up on everybody. And I paid the money that she required from us and bought 10 tickets. And still, when I got there, she rolled up on me. And Tori's like, that's right. But it was very targeted, and it was very intentional. Intentionally targeted, okay? Because something about our presence irritates any type of insecurities that they may have. That's it. That's it. And Steve's like, very much so. Very much so. And Heavenly is just like. I feel it's just on their side because they're against Toya. So listen, if we're gonna fight about the tickets, let's fight about the tickets. But now you're turning it into, well, you need to stand up to your wife, and you told him he needs to stand. Steve, stay on topic, because you're taking it so far off. I just want to know about the ticket. Some of us care about these details. Okay?

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah. And again, we have learned that, like, if you. If someone has bought a table, that should cover the guest tickets for the gala. So it's weird that he should have to buy a ticket on top of that, but whatever, you know, I guess if. If this is the rule of the. If the. If the rule of this gala is you still need to buy a ticket to sit at the table that you've been, you know, you've been afforded, then so be it. But it sounds like, well, I mean, what a shock. It was a totally disorganized gala that Toya put together. So Contessa is like, well, this is supposed to be for us, the ladies of Married to Medicine, and somehow or another, it became the Eugene and Toya show. And Eugene, I'm honestly just gonna say, like, you should not have been anything but a guest that night. You shouldn't have been talking to people other than greeting, and you shouldn't have been costing people at the door. And if anyone has anything to say about, like, who had a ticket, who didn't. The only people who really should have known is all of us. And Toya and Andy's like, well, what do you say to that? Hold on. The bottom line is, we had an event for the last three years, and for the first year, Jackie did not share any details of the event and she asked for money only. Period of the second year, she did not share the details with that. With anyone and she asked for the money, period. So the third year, what did I do? The exact same thing. That jacket is, no matter what your feelings are, at the end of the day, all you have to do is give the charity. But I think Contessa's point is very valid. Like Eugene should was not an organizer of this gala, so he should not have been going up and demanding money from anyone.

[Brandy Howard]

Exactly. Which Toya just pretends never happened. She just pretends that question never happened. That's what makes me crazy. It's a very specific question. Why is Eugene making his business to come after the women for what they paid or they didn't? He shouldn't be involved. And Tori's like, well, I shouldn't have to give you any information. That's not the question. And also you're saying all you had to do is give the money, but you didn't give money for the first two years. You're a total hypocrite. That's the point. Toya and Heavenly's like, well, how dare you say that? And Tori's like, if you could buy a five, a five thousand dollar bowl that you could give $1,000 to charity. And now it's like she's shaming him for giving, for being dumb enough to pay $5,000 for the bull, when it's like more than she's ever given to the charity. And Heavenly's like, oh my God, no, she did not. And there was no transparency. And Tori's like, well, it was not UG's job to guard the door. And Heavenly's like, well, Heavenly's just, you know, coming at Toya as she tries to talk. And Eugene's like, can I say something? And they're going back on forth. Contesta's like, don't you contribute to charity? Mimi's like, yes, I contribute. You. You contribute to charity, right? Well, monetarily, and also my time and effort. And Eugene is trying to talk, but the ladies won't let him. And Tori is like, but why would you not contribute that? Can I speak? I thought you were all about giving the medical industry. Hold on.

[Andy Cohen]

Listen, please. Everybody stop the talking. Please just listen. Please calm down. Eugene's like, the only reason I got involved was that we were at a deadline and my wife said, I'm going to look like a fool if I don't get this done. This is important to Me and Toya said, no one is helping me. We had a young lady at the door who's checking the tickets, who was on the list, who bought tickets. So I told her, let me know if someone comes in and who's not on the list. So he's basically like, I was helping my wife. Which, by the way, is also fine to do that. But. But why is Toya, like, why is Toya not able to generate any help from the other women? It's because she led it so badly. She's a terrible, terrible.

[Brandy Howard]

She refused to let them help. So they're saying that whole group chat that Toya has printed on a bathrobe or whatever was saying, what do you need from us? What are we supposed to do? Why don't we have any information? Why don't we know what we're supposed to do for this thing? And so now Tori is saying that nobody will help her. So they need a guard at the door to block anyone from coming in. And they knew that it was going to be Mimi and Steve, and they had that girl tell them they couldn't come in. Why are they acting like they didn't? It's so weird. And Contessa's like, why. But why would you say she. Okay. Eugene says, I told her, let me know if somebody comes in who's not on the list. And Contessa says, why? And Tori says, because she's a woman.

[Andy Cohen]

What?

[Brandy Howard]

And Tori is like. Eugene says, because I was helping. And Contessa says, well, we didn't ask you to help. Pull your coat out again. Pull your coat out again. Let's read the text. I asked you two times to help.

[Andy Cohen]

Like, I think the help that Eugene should have afforded was, like, logistical help, but in terms of, you know, public facing, it should have been someone who. It should have been one of the. One of the women.

[Brandy Howard]

Instead of what they're saying over and over without actually saying it to Eugene is Eugene. You are not a real housewife. Stopped acting like a real housewife. Stop fighting with us all. Stop fighting to cause drama with us all. Stop standing at the door acting like. Like, I get you're a husband and you're a part of the show for 12 years, as you keep saying over and over again. But you are not a lead of this show. Please go into the background, sir.

[Andy Cohen]

This just. This is just all testament to how mismanaged this. This charity was. I mean, this. This fundraiser was. I mean, they were able to raise money, so it was ultimately successful. But this is why Mimi didn't and Steve didn't want to throw their money at it to be like organizers, because you have someone like Toya who's just Is not. Is not welcoming people into this process and is being terrible about it. So I'm fully on Mimi and Steve's side with this. I really am so. And he's like, okay, quad, what do you want to say? Here's the thing. What has happened here, what has transpired over the years was, Toya, you failed to think and remember and understand the concept that this was all for all of us, the transpiring types. There were a number of people who felt a certain type of way while they were, I don't know, transpiring things. And we do not like that. We do not like how it transpired when Toya did not give. And the people were saying to her, toya, this is not a Jackie event. This is our event. Adherbly burbili herbally.

[Brandy Howard]

This was a transpirational event of transpiration transpire. And Toria's like, what? They did pay that then. And Steve goes, we were going to the same thing. We were gonna do the same thing, except we were ambushed at the door because you have personal vendetta against us. And Toya just starts, you know, yelling back at them. And Mimi's like, oh, keep it going, baby. Keep it going. And Steve says, you're insecure about us. And Jackie's like, well, listen, this is why it's hard. When we started, we started with just two of us trying to do it and not getting the support from the entire group. But what. What can I say to make this positive? Is the 501C3 is 30 days out from the final, and now it's a true foundation that will benefit nurses and medical professionals. Is so. Is tax deductible. Okay. And Tori is like, andy. Andy. That was my idea. The 501.3C thing. That was my.

[Andy Cohen]

I mean, to be fair, I said, can someone get me some Levi's 501s? And then, like, it got confused, but, like, it worked out because now we're a 501C3. So Andy's like, that's great. And next year, will you reach out to me so I can do it as well? I really will. Okay. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us. I'm gonna miss the gentle breeze that came from Steve's finger wagging. But, you know, we'll move on. We'll survive. This is inconvenient. It's inappropriate and inconvenient.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah. So they're okay, so I still have no answers for what this charity was. If. If the t. If Jackie paid for a table and told them they were allowed to sit at the table without getting a ticket, why you had to have a ticket if you also had a table? Did Toya pay last year? Why are you gonna make me sit through two and a half hours and not answer very basic, basic questions? I'm pissed. I'm rescinding your 501Cs thing.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah, that's right. So backstage, Eugene is like. The guys are talking. Eugene is like, we got a girl at the front. I said, hey, anybody come in? Because it's like a private event. Like, who's not on the list, let me know. And she goes, I'm not apologizing for nothing. All I did was try to tell you. I have. It was nothing personal. It was just something. It was just something that was convenient. He's like, but it is personal. No, it's not personal. All right, well, that's paper thin. You made it a personal towards me, and then I left it alone. But it's not personal. But you made it personal. That's the thing. It's personal. Not personal at the same time. What don't you get about this?

[Brandy Howard]

It wasn't personal. That was about the scholarship. And he's like, here's the thing. I'd let you say your piece. So let me say my piece, because this is the truth. And Eugene's like, oh, my God, we've heard your piece all day. And he goes, no, this is the truth right here. Your wife. Your wife has mentioned me taking my shirt off. And your wife has mentioned that I'm attractive. I'm like, oh, no, Steve. You've made get enough of an ass of yourself. Steve. Just stop. Just stop while you're only slightly behind, Steve. And he goes. And I know that makes you insecure, and I know it makes you feel less than, but don't single me out because of it. And that's what you did, Eugene. I'm sorry. I'm hot.

[Andy Cohen]

Eugene's like, nobody singled you out. If that's how you feel. Sorry. If that's what you need. Sorry. He's like, see, right there. I'm over it. That's the only pass. That's the passive aggressive sorry. It wasn't a real sorry. It was a passive aggressive sorry. Eugene's like, okay, we don't have to say shit to each other. Come on. And she's like, come on, man, let's keep it 100. I'm really telling you the truth. I'm a very attractive man, and your wife kind of wants to do me. What else do I have to say? It's clear as day.

[Brandy Howard]

I know he did not just come on here and say, like, you're mad. You tried to make me pay for that charity because your wife wants to me like, what, Steve? Oh, my God.

[Andy Cohen]

And by the way, for those, those who didn't watch, this is an allusion to the fact that last year, Toya said in the confessional jokingly to Eugene, oh, yeah, King can take his shirt off. He's the only one that could take their shirt off. Everyone else keep their shirts on. Because she basically saying, like, King has body goes, everyone keep their shirt on. Oh, and Steve, too. It was like, it was like, added at the end. It wasn't even like the. Steve wasn't even the focus of this, like, funny moment that they had.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh, my gosh. So embarrassing. Steve. And he goes, no, nobody's having a temper tantrum. You're insecure and you've got a little man complex.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

I mean, to be fair, so what you said, I mean, I think this is the second time that I'm gonna say you called this again last week when you were like, I feel that Steve is being kind of like a popular sports guy who's like, bullying the nerd and being like, yeah, you know, off. I'm better than you because, like, I'm a hot sports guy and you're a nerd. And I didn't like, a hundred percent buy into that. And then here we go with Steve. Like, oh, yeah, you're little in your chubby and I'm hot and your wife wants to me so sorry.

[Andy Cohen]

It's like, yeah, I think, like, straight men, like, or just, I think men in general, not even straight men. I think men, we really fall back into our high school roles very, very quickly. It's like, it's like a pecking orders get established. And that's what I think I was trying to say before about why, like, I, like, I wonder how much of that comes into play with Andy. Not really, like, trying to help any of these situations with the men where he does with the women. Because I think it's like the gay man is often in the role of, like, helping women out with their problems.

[Brandy Howard]

Right.

[Andy Cohen]

But like, when there's a straight man, especially you have Steve, former football player. Curtis, former basketball player. They're like, kind of like the jocks or whatever. I don't know. Like, I, I, I feel like, you know, like, we People step back into their roles, and it's like, oh, yeah. It's, like, not my place to. Yeah, these are, like men doing men things. I shouldn't, like, try to interfere. And I sort of feel like it also comes up here with Steve and Eugene. Like, Eugene is just, like, the little nerd, and Steve is, like, the jock. And it's funny because I've traditionally always really adored Eugene, and I've really enjoyed Steve, but I think they're actually both just being total idiots.

[Hayden]

This.

[Andy Cohen]

This. During this reunion.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah. I think Eugene's trying to fight too much of his wife's battle, and Steve is just acting like an ass. I mean, my God, this was. Yeah, this was not cool. And just pay the amount at the charity. Like, you still haven't paid it. You still haven't given anything. Like, that's crazy. I know it's a season finale party, and it's work, but you need to pay that. You need to pay something to the charity. That's crazy. I think they did pay, so I

[Andy Cohen]

think I did pay.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, no. Well, I don't know, because it's just. Again, we. We have no way of knowing. But Toria said, you still haven't paid. Over and over. She's like, you still haven't paid. They still haven't paid anything. So I don't know.

[Andy Cohen]

I think. But I guess what's confusing is that I think that Steven, Mimi bought a ticket and. But maybe they didn't donate during the charity thing beyond the ticket, or they also didn't throw in the money to be, like, one of the people who was like. Like, all the whole cast contributed, like, a certain amount of money to just throw the event.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Andy Cohen]

So whatever it was. I don't know.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy Cohen]

Reliable witness on this either.

[Brandy Howard]

Honestly. Yeah, I still don't know. So Andy's like, okay, final moments. Angel. What are you gonna take from this experience? And she's like, well, not to let my business ideas out there, so Jackie can't steal them from me. No, she doesn't. Doesn't say that, because that would have been interesting. She's like, I've met some amazing, intelligent, beautiful, successful women of color, and I just love being in the space with scrubs. Space scrubs?

[Andy Cohen]

Yes, Space scrubs. What about you, Brandy? Well, it's really great. It's been an amazing experience. It's a lot of new. It's a. You know, it's a lot of new person for a new person coming to the group and a lot of personalities. It's you know, it's all over the place. But honestly, it's been a great experience. Except I've been stuck next to contest all night, which has not been so great. She says a lot of stuff under her breath. A lot of stuff.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay, do you have an under the breath mint that we can give to Contessa? Because.

[Andy Cohen]

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[Hayden]

Howdy, howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Hayden]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

That's right.

[Brandy Howard]

Hei.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

Hei. So each week, you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single channel.

[Hayden]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

News flash. I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you can find Fantasy Fan Fellas wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brandy Howard]

He's thinking it up.

[Andy Cohen]

What's one thing you want this group to better understand about you? Well, the one thing about me is that I want you to know that I'm gonna fight for the truth. And you know what I'm saying? Because it hurts sometimes to do that. But, you know, that's me. Toya Bush Harris. Truth fighter.

[Brandy Howard]

Fighter for the truth. Andy. That's me. Heavenly. The next time we get together, will you be a sitting member of Congress? She's like, absolutely. Absolutely, I will. But assuming you're elected, you'll have to leave the show. Just well, I'm not closing any doors, but that's the thought. And Contesta got this. So this is goodbye, huh?

[Andy Cohen]

The funniest things that Condessa ever did. So this is goodbye, huh? Andy goes, oh, you want to wrap her out right now? She's like, well, no, she's gonna win. Oh, that was great. I feel like Contessa's, like, not really the funniest on this. On this cast, but that was a funny thing to say.

[Brandy Howard]

This was Contessa's best season, I think it was.

[Andy Cohen]

I liked her first season, too. I remember her first season when she came on. I thought she was really good, but then she sort of got into reality star mode after that, and this was a great season for her.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah, it was, like, a nice mix, you know, of just being the Greek chorus, but then, like, getting into a little mess. So, Simone, did you get the clarity you needed tonight? Especially with Heavenly and Jackie, and she's like, jackie, thank you so much for putting our friendship in a place that lets me know that. That you value our friendship for Heavenly, let me say this to you. Oh, Andy, I do not like the eye rolling. He's like, I'm just worried. Geez. Let me say this to you. You. To have someone on social media dragging the fact that we have had real moments on the show, that is hurtful.

[Andy Cohen]

It is very hurtful when you say things that are not true about my husband and when you attack my man. That's a problem for me, Simone. Well, Simone, I mean, Heavenly, yes. You've said so many things, Heavenly. So many. Especially Simone. You've not been accountable. You have assassinated so many characters. Heavenly, nothing has been done to you that you didn't do first.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, my whole thing is that we've all done things to each other, Simone. And I'm sorry that you feel that way, that you put your business on TV that I would never do. And she's like, well, I was here before you got here. Okay, you guys, it doesn't matter, like, who got here. You and Eugene. Stop. You're all on the same show. Like, stop acting like some of you are so much better because you were here, like, one year before Heavenly.

[Andy Cohen]

I know. And you guys are all. Yeah, no, literally, Heavenly came season two. I thought she came season three, but she came season two. The other thing is, I'm sure that next season there's gonna be a scene with Simone and Heavenly where hopefully, I mean, I do hopefully hope that Heavenly situation with her son is resolved. It sounds incredibly stressful and intense, but what's gonna happen is like, I was in such a dark place with my son, and, you know, hurt people. Hurt people. And I just want to miss you, Simone. You know, it's. That's gonna be fine. They're gonna get back together next season.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah. So they. It's contentious, but they're like, I wish you the best when I wish you

[Andy Cohen]

the best as well.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay, well, let's end that with best wishes. So then Jackie gets her monologue, and she's like, we just need to operate in love, and we can do this. We can come together and make a difference. Dildos, vibrators. You're never going to get rid of me, and you're never going to, so you might as well put me back on the friend list. Fit is the new it. Thank you. Thank you, Andy.

[Andy Cohen]

I need to get that back together. So they're gonna re. Follow each other. And Andy's like, what? You know, you really had a few years there, about 10 of them, where you felt like an outsider. You. You felt shown by. Shown. Shown by the. Shunned by the group. And it warms my heart to see that you're here with everybody. And actually, I have to say, I kind of agree. Quad has been an outsider for so long, it felt like every season, it's like they've pushed Quad off the show. She's leaving Married to Medicine every single season for the past few years, it's like, wow, this is the end for Quad. And this was the first season. And I felt like many years where I felt like Quad really was, like, part. Truly part of the cast again. And I thought it was really nice.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah. Toya and Simone left her alone this year. They concentrated only on Heavenly. But she also came up with a different way of dealing with Toya and Simone. She doesn't really fight back as much with them. She's like, whatever. You guys are crazy. Like, she'll still make her estate. And then when they keep going with her, she's like, whatever. And I think that's what you have to do. And then they just move on. And also, giving Toya something to do this season with the med gala really helped.

[Andy Cohen]

Like a hobby, a plot, you know? Give her a task.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah, exactly.

[Andy Cohen]

Give Toya a task, and she's fine, because I think I'm.

[Brandy Howard]

She's one of those, like, housewives that comes on every year, and she's gonna try and get somebody off, you know, and it's been Quad, and now it's Heavenly. And, you know, she's always gonna have someone that she's trying to get kicked off the show, but, you know, give her something to do.

[Andy Cohen]

But, you know, also, quad was. You know, there was a period of time where quad was potentially about to become, like, ascend to the next level of celebrity. She was on Sister Circle Live. She was on a TV show. She was like, you know, a co host on it. And it seemed like things. Big things were about to happen for Quad. And so she did sort of get an ego. And we saw, you know, she was showing up really late for things and making people wait, and she was holding stuff back. I felt like from the show, she was self producing a bit more, which is usually what happens whenever, like, a. A. A real housewife or a reality star in general starts to feel like their celebrity is, like, bigger than the show. Suddenly they start to self produce a lot because they care about their image a lot more. And she did go down that path. And I actually really love that she has come back. And, like, I. This is, to me, my favorite quad season in many years. I mean, quad's always been a superstar. Always been. But she would. I would get frustrated with her in the sense that it felt like she was. She just was holding stuff back. And I felt like this was the quad that I fell in love with back in season one.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh, my God, I've loved every quad season. Honestly, I think they're so. I think she's so funny, especially when she was getting a big head. And she's like, how dare you?

[Andy Cohen]

I'm part of the sister circle.

[Brandy Howard]

And they were like, what, my new friend? Or when she threw herself a party. What was the party she threw herself? It was like, oh, she was on the balcony. Yeah, she threw herself some party, and then she had herself Lexus delivered.

[Andy Cohen]

She got her new Lexus delivered to the party.

[Brandy Howard]

And she's like, oh. Like, she was so surprised. She's like, oh, thank you. Me. Thank you so much. So Andy's like, why are you emotional, Quad? And she's like, I'm emotional about this

[Andy Cohen]

group because I came up through the trenches.

[Brandy Howard]

And she's like, we're gonna fight.

[Andy Cohen]

We're gonna duke it out, but.

[Brandy Howard]

But don't step to us. And he's like, we love you, Quad. And Contessa's like, man or no man, you've got this. And we've got champagne coming in. I'm gonna ask Ms. Toya to give us a toast.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, man. As long as Luba doesn't count my drinks, I think we'll be all right. She. We are good. We are non counting Mimi right now.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay, here's my speech. Season 12. Wow. You ladies are so inspirational. I will just say go to season 13. Let's not forget that. So don't forget you were inspirational. Okay. Don't forget it. Okay, now the season 13 and season 12 and season 10. That was a good one. Season 19, maybe. That's all right.

[Andy Cohen]

All right. You're just counting now. Okay. All right.

[Brandy Howard]

That's a wrap.

[Andy Cohen]

Like a very popular tray. You might find a Costco. It's a wrap.

[Brandy Howard]

And that was it. That was Married to medicine. Season 12. Another season in the can.

[Andy Cohen]

Absolutely. Thanks, everyone for being here. What a fun time. And guess what? Next Sunday, the madness begins. Atlanta and Rhode island back to back for a full season.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's gonna be something. There's two Rhode Islands coming up. The first episode is going to be after Real Housewives of Beverly Hills this week, I guess, to give them a strong lead in. And then they are going. Their second episode is after Atlanta. So set your DVRs if you're still using that because there's going to be two Rhode Islands this week, people, and it's batshit crazy. Watch the first episode this weekend.

[Andy Cohen]

I'm excited.

[Brandy Howard]

Enjoy and we'll talk to you. We'll see you soon. Bye, everybody.

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howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fan Girls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball. But you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Hayden]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

That's right.

[Hayden]

Hey hey.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

So each week you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions single chapter.

[Hayden]

And along the way we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[Stephen (Smash Daddy)]

News flash. I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday and you can find Fantasy fan fellas wherever you get your podcasts.

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