#3287 Below Deck Down Under S04E09 Part One: Honey Don’t

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3287: "Below Deck Down Under S04E09 Part One: Honey Don’t" Released: March 31, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam (joined by regular panelists Evan Ross Katz and Amanda) sink their teeth into the drama from Below Deck Down Under Season 4, Episode 9. The crappens crew dissects both the on-yacht chaos and the ongoing Summer House love triangle blow-up, with their trademark Bravo-fan mix of snark, empathy, and perfectly timed pop culture references. The main topics include a major Summer House scandal, messy friendship betrayals, how not to manage a yacht kitchen, and why Brussels sprouts need to finally die off as a trendy menu item.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Summer House Scandal & Relationship Fallout

• Segment Begins: [03:00]

  • Amanda and West's New Relationship: The main Summer House bombshell—Amanda and West's romance—gets the full Crappens treatment. The hosts read aloud (and parody) the kinds of self-serious public statements often posted after reality TV relationship scandals.
  • Ronnie: “So that’s not even like they just made out. And she’s wearing his baseball cap. That’s like they’re together together. Ew. Amanda.”
  • Friendship Fallout: They predict Amanda is burning nearly all her friendships in the house (esp. with Sierra), for a romance destined to implode.
  • Evan ([05:43]) on the likeliness of heartbreak: "It’s for something that’s not gonna go anywhere. And that's just sad."
  • Bravo Parallels: The crew draw parallels to Scandoval (Vanderpump Rules)—Ariana and Sierra as the show's moral centers, with Amanda and Raquel both causing "not quite an affair, but major betrayal."
  • Misogyny & Accountability: Evan and Ronnie unpack why Amanda will take more heat than West. “Everyone expects guys to be douchebags. No one expects Amanda to break girl code.”

2. Below Deck Down Under: The Ellie & Ben Galley Showdown

• Segment Begins: [23:01]

  • Kitchen Chaos: Ellie is furious at Ben for poor communication and patronizing nicknames (“honey, sweetie, snicker…”). She storms up to Captain Jason just before dinner service.
  • Jenna (mimicking Ellie, [23:30]): “I sold fruit for milk, easy child. I will do this. Captain!”
  • Captain Jason's Classic Response ([24:52]): “I haven’t had a woman come up here crying lately, so I figured everything was okay in the galley and I could watch Real Housewives of Salt Lake City…”
  • Establishing Boundaries—Sort Of: The hosts parody Jason’s generic HR-speak (“create boundaries!”) and mock his unflappable, slightly clueless approach to conflict resolution.
  • Ben’s Patronizing Style: The panel calls out Ben’s constant use of condescending food-based nicknames, fueling Ellie’s rage.
  • Amanda (mocking Ellie’s retort, [32:15]): “…don’t call me a caramel cupcake after you just called me a snicker. Sinus is not right. Cupcake isn’t even a body part.”

3. Culinary Trends and Pet Peeves

• Segment Begins: [34:12]

  • “Brussels Sprouts Must Die”: Ronnie rails against the ubiquity and overhyped reputation of Brussels sprouts on trendy menus.
  • Ronnie ([34:35]): “They are not. They are not. I’m sick of everybody pretending they’re good. They’re sour and they taste like pee and they smell like pee, and I don’t want them.”
  • Beet and Goat Cheese Salads—Enough Already!: The datedness of staple veggie dishes is dissected, with Evan serving as the lone defender.
  • Evan ([35:57]): “Beet and goat cheese salad, Brussels sprouts: If you see it on a menu, it is dated… However, beaten goat cheese salad is still kind of delicious.”

4. Crew Management Meltdown

• Segment Begins: [45:10]

  • Alicia & Mike’s Steward Battle: The hosts liken the crew dynamic to playground role-play.
  • Evan ([47:04]): “Alicia and Mike remind me of two kids at recess, like, role playing like they’re in an office.”
  • Ellie’s Assertiveness & Ben’s Floundering: Ellie stands her ground, refusing to be minimized—even as the tension threatens dinner service.
  • Iconic Insults & Nicknames (Multiple):
    • “Don’t call me boopsy snoot.”
    • “I meant baby gravy.”
    • “Don’t fucking try me, Ben. Don’t fucking try me.” ([52:01])

5. Gay Wedding Prep and Beige Outrage

• Segment Begins: [39:49]
  • The crew preps for an onboard gay wedding, with much discussion (“Why beige? Shouldn’t we go all out with something fabulous?”), plus a throwback to Alex McCord wearing beige to a wedding ([39:37]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ronnie ([07:06]): “Ugly people get over it too, you guys, okay? But beyond her obvious gorgeousity, the fact that that’s one of your girlfriends… it’s like Sierra standing up for you.”
• Evan ([10:40]): “You can’t help who you love, but you can have standards, and they’re woefully missing in this situation.”
• Ronnie ([24:52]): “I haven’t had a woman come up here crying lately, so I figured everything was okay in the galley and I could watch Real Housewives of Salt Lake City…”
• Amanda ([31:01]): “It’s just gonna affect me, I can’t take it. Cookie… Capillaries.”
• Evan ([35:23]): “Cabbage is where it’s at right now, cabbage is exciting, which is good.”
• Ronnie ([43:55]): “She’s definitely doing that. Yeah. And we’ve seen, by the way, we’ve seen some of the strongest women on this franchise go out. Ben, we’ve seen. Kate, we’ve seen. Hannah, we’ve seen—and whoever else. I think Ellie is the first person who has basically been able to just, like… really halt him.”
• Amanda ([52:01]): “Don’t fucking try me, Ben. Don’t fucking try me.”

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:00]—Summer House Relationship Announcement and Analysis
• [06:30]—Friendships Burned for Romance & Parallels to Scandoval
• [10:40]—Bravo Archetypes & Gendered Backlash
• [23:01]—Below Deck: Ellie vs. Ben—Galley Drama Begins
• [24:52]—Captain Jason’s 'Boundaries' Speech
• [32:15]—Ellie Claps Back at Ben’s Nicknames
• [34:12]—Brussels Sprouts and Beet/Goat Cheese Rant
• [39:49]—Onboard Gay Wedding Prep & Beige Fashion
• [45:10]—Alicia and Mike’s Steward Playground
• [47:04]—Alicia & Mike’s “Recess” Management Style
• [52:01]—Ellie to Ben: “Don’t fucking try me.”

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Conclusion

Part one of this double episode is a classic Watch What Crappens blend: hilarious, sharp, and deeply Bravo-obsessed. The hosts’ gifts for banter and character analysis are on full display, as they parse the messy ethics of housemates sleeping together, the perennial shortcomings of yacht bosses, and why some side dishes should just retire. Their affection for both the cast and Bravo fandom comes through, making this recap an essential listen and read for any Below Deck or Summer House devotee.

Don’t forget to jump to part two for the rest of the recap!

Transcript

[Hayden]

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[Ronnie]

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[Kyle]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben Uni over there. Hello, Ben. How are you, my little darling face?

[Kyle]

I'm great, thanks.

[Evan Ross Katz]

How are you doing, Ronnie?

[Ronnie]

Good. It's just so good to be here on another Bravo day. Nothing's really happening in the world. Oh, my God.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Oh, my God. It's a press conference. Oh, my God. And breaking news.

[Ronnie]

Oh, My gosh. Who's coming up? It's West. It's west from summer house. West. West. What do you have to say, Wes?

[Amanda]

I just wanted to tell everybody that

[Ronnie]

I'm just a little boy and I don't really understand anything that's on. So I'd just like to introduce Amanda

[Amanda]

Batula to have her say Amanda.

[Kyle]

Thanks, West. Well, as I said on my Instagram stories, we've seen the growing online speculation. So while Amanda.

[Ronnie]

Who is we? Who is we? Amanda, who's we?

[Kyle]

The royal we that's like me and my bikinis for girls who have large breasts. All of us together have seen the growing speculation. And so like, while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. It was never our intention to purposely hide anything except our oversized boobs and bikini tops that fit properly.

[Ronnie]

We were trying to accidentally hide it. Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved in the scrutiny that comes with being on reality TV show Kyle, we needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Amanda.

[Kyle]

Kyle, we've shown up for each other.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna play a set. Hold on.

[Amanda]

Why isn't anybody paying attention to me?

[Kyle]

We've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all the highs and lows and what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine long standing friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care.

[Ronnie]

Kyle, you, Amanda, don't pay attention to me. As our feelings evolved, we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also recognize that this has had an impact beyond just us and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or perceived as careless. The only thing careless here is West Sparkly hair. I'm sorry. West has a mullet, everybody. There, I said it.

[Amanda]

I said it.

[Kyle]

We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this. And of course, what I'm talking about are the new flavors on the Starbucks menu. Thank you everyone for respecting our privacy while we figure out the new menu. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

Wow. Amanda.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Wow, wow.

[Kyle]

Wow.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Well, so it sounds. I'm assuming she's talking about the scandal. Wow.

[Ronnie]

So. So that's not even like they just made out. And she's wearing his baseball cap. That's like they're together together. Ew. Amanda. That's like when I lost weight finally. And then I grew on my hair. You can never win. You can never win.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Okay, you know what's. What's, what's terrible for Amanda. And we'll get to west too. By the way. But what's terrible for Amanda is that here she's embarking on this romantic relationship with west, it sounds like, and she is going to burn all of her friendships in the house. Definitely Sierra. She's never going to earn that friendship back with Sierra. Like, that's done and dusted and probably page two, Lindsay, everyone, like, she's burned all these friendships. She's. They're all gone. For a guy that ultimately is just gonna be like, I'm scared of commitment and, like, this is, like, really intense and everyone hates me. So I think we shouldn't do this anymore. Like, like, this is. It's for something that's not gonna go anywhere. And that's just sad.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that is sad. I mean, I would have rather it just been like, listen, everybody, I'm single, he's single, we fucked a couple times. Get off my ass. Okay? Sierra knows I told her something, but. Oh, Amanda West. No, anybody else. I think if it was Ben, you know, but the whole west and then Sierra thing, that's just not going to be good. I mean, Sierra's kind of the queen of that show right now. She is these days, and rightfully so. I mean, she's, she's earned it beyond her beauty, you know, because everyone's always

[Amanda]

like, but she's so pretty. How could you do this to someone so pretty?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, ugly people get over to you guys, okay? But beyond her, beyond her obvious gorgeousity, the fact that that's one of your girlfriends who's standing up for you currently on this episode that we're watching this week, it's like Sierra standing up for you and Sierra trying to help you through your problems with your shitty marriage and everything like that. And I know that Sierra and West were never married. They were never even dating, technically. I mean, I don't even think they said they were boyfriend or girlfriend ever. But you know what's going on there. And you know that this is bad. You know that this is terrible, girl.

[Amanda]

Cod.

[Ronnie]

What are you doing? Amanda? Oh, my God. I thought you were smarter than this, but you have been married to Kyle for a decade, so.

[Evan Ross Katz]

And also, like, Wes is so generic. Like, couldn't you find just a different West? Like, they're everywhere. Like, why, why this West? And again, this is just not going to go anywhere. It's just going to him being like, amanda, yeah, like, you're really cute. Like, that's, that's just like, I, I, it's, it's terrible. And on top of that, now on the west end of it, on not intended. This guy again, like we said yesterday, he spends an entire last season moping about Sierra. This season he's got his foot, you know, tapping her calf while. While drunk and like, oh, my God, she really likes me. She really likes me. All of this just to like. On it.

[Ronnie]

We knew that was a lie. We knew that.

[Evan Ross Katz]

We knew that was a lie. And it seems like that's going to get.

[Kyle]

And we knew.

[Evan Ross Katz]

It looks like based on the.

[Kyle]

The.

[Evan Ross Katz]

The second half of the season that he's gonna. He's gonna screw it up by the end of the season. So that is gonna happen. But it's just like, it just. It speaks to the bullshit. You know, if this is. If he's truly in love with Sierra, if he really cares about Sierra, if you want Sierra. I don't know. I just don't think this is what you do. Even if you acknowledge, like, if it becomes clear, my. My shot with Sierra is gone. It's done. I have to move on. I can't hope to keep trying for Sierra. Like, she's closed the door to me. Sure, move on. But don't move on and hurt her in the process. If this is someone that you truly say is the one that got away, the one that you love, you're just not. You're just gonna. You still are gonna hold her in high regard and not hurt her. And that's exactly what it seems like he has done.

[Ronnie]

He doesn't care. He's only in it for the fame. You know, he's in it for the fame. He's like a poser. He's like a TikTok. He has tick tock hair.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

He's like a barstool sports guy who doesn't take a bath and has a mullet. Like, I can't with this guy. I just can't. I can't. Why with West? Why with all of all people? And then west, you know, Kyle's supposed to be his friend too, so like yellow guy code. What the hell? I mean, look, part of me is like they're all in a house. It's about. And there's only a certain amount of people in the cast. So you're. You know, Sierra's got to basically with Jesse and West, you know, that are kind of into her who have been messing with her feelings. So who's left? Kyle's already taken. Then there's Ben, who boring. And then KJ's taken automatically. But, you know, you can do things outside the group, you know, and then there's part of Me, that's like, well, they're both adults and they're both single, and if this is their thing, then that's fine. Like, you can't help who you love. I hate even saying that. But the other parts, like, but you both have friends that you're kind of over with this whole thing too. And, like, isn't that more important that your. Whatever. Your stupid influencer relationship, which I probably don't even believe. And third of all, how do you go from one man child to another guy who's, like, got broccoli hair and trying to, like, dress like every teenager on TikTok? I just don't. Come on, man.

[Evan Ross Katz]

You can't help who you love, but you can have standards and that. They're, like, woefully missing in this situation. I think it's fascinating, the parallels between this and Scandal. You know, you have Ariana and Sierra who are both kind of cut from the same mold in terms of Bravo types, which is, like, principled, upstanding girls. Girls who are, by and large, like, really respected and loved by the audience, and they, like, seem to be the one standing up for the right things. They're like, Sierra has really never had ever a storyline where it's like, oh, wow. Like, I'm like, I hate.

[Kyle]

I hate Sierra.

[Evan Ross Katz]

I don't think there's ever been a situation where, like, half the audience loves Sierra, half the UNs hate Sierra. Maybe people got annoyed with her for going back to Austin so many times during that dreaded chapter. But, like, by and large, the audience has always been behind Sierra. By and large, the audience was always behind Ariana. And in both cases, these. These two people who really went above and beyond to be there for their girlfriends and get screwed over by their girlfriends, which is crazy. And then you have Amanda and you have Raquel, and you have two women who kind of are in relationships with guys who kind of disregard them in a way or, like, they're. They're like. They're both DJs. They're in relationship with DJs.

[Ronnie]

They're both drunk DJs with substance abuse

[Evan Ross Katz]

issues who are, like, in it, who are, like, really focused on, in Kyle's case, you know, going to these random bars and playing. In James's case, playing on top of some toilet paper in Tom. Tom. But the point is that they're kind of taking their women for granted, and you have these sort of, like, women who are just kind of, like, left on the side, and they've sort of wind up in these situations. Amanda's not technically in an affair, but it's affair adjacent.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I mean, kind of an interesting parallel, glaring difference is that Tom and Ariana were in a long term relationship of like 10 years or whatever. So that's a huge, that's, that's a pretty huge difference. And also I think Amanda has a lot in common with Ariana and that she's the one who's sitting at home who just wants her partner to be at home watching Love island, which is like the same basic plot of that one. But she's also kind of the Raquel, even though, you know, she's technically not cheating. I mean, people are trying to make this into scandal, but it's really not, it's not the same thing. It's not a cheating, it's not an affair. This one, the betrayal is more a friendship. It's. And it's double, you know, and Amanda's going to get more of it because Amanda and Sierra, I think, I think that everyone accepts that guys are pieces of shit. And no one is surprised that west or Jesse or Kyle, none of them, none of them would be surprising to end up being a douchebag. We all know they're douchebags. We all know that. So Amanda's going to get it worse because she will, you know, that's one of her best friends who's been standing there for her. So I think that's the ultimate betrayal. And it's.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Yikes, it's not great. And it's. You're right, it's not technically an affair. Although I don't know if Kyle and Amanda or not, I don't think that they are actually divorced.

[Ronnie]

No. But I guess actually you're allowed to bang people when you're separated. Right?

[Evan Ross Katz]

Right. I've learned that from technically, like, I don't know, like technically, actually some could make an argument that's an affair. But what makes it different is that this group of people that like convene together in a house, they like, they're all living together and there's like that crucible energy of them all being in there, being crushed by Bravo TV intensity. And so like not an affair, flagrant violation of girl and bro code. But it's also like summer house, like share house by code violation too. Like you're all in this house and you're having an affair within the house. There's like, there's like that craziness of that as well. But also like the other thing is that like Amanda and Kyle are like, just like Tom and Ariana are Long standing couple in this group. And so, like, we really know the ins and outs of them and we thought we really knew Amanda, but did

[Kyle]

we really know Amanda?

[Evan Ross Katz]

Did we really know Amanda outside of, outside of like the context of Kyle? I'm not actually sure we did.

[Ronnie]

Well, I don't think Amanda is like suddenly this evil, mastermind, horrible person. And I, you know, she's just lonely. I think she's making a terrible here, but also because I really just don't like west, so I think she's making a terrible decision. To me, it's very clear this guy's just using you to get on the city. I don't think if Amanda had this spin off show that was shooting that west would care. But west is clearly planning on jumping over to this new show. I don't trust that guy. But anyway, about Amanda, Amanda's gonna get stoned in the streets, you know, figuratively. And you know, I don't hate Amanda. Suddenly I just think she's. That's the guy who's been. We see it on the show right now. West is the one who's like, you need to treat with Amanda with respect. And then Amanda, you deserve better and this and that. So I think she's sees kind of a really sweet life raft. I mean, west is really nice if you're falling for his. So if you're falling for that act, you know, he does seem like a really sweet guy who's just being supportive and then friendship led to whatever. So I kind of feel bad for her in a way. But, man, this is a bad move to be fucking over your girlfriend. I mean.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Yes, that's the thing is that, like, I believe that she has been really lonely. I think she's been lonely in her marriage. I think she's been lonely in this relationship for a while. I think like, when you're, when you're lonely and someone shows you attention, it's

[Ronnie]

like I fall in love with UPS people. Okay, I'm single all the time. I'm single by choice, but it doesn't mean I never get lonely. I literally, when people are delivering my Instacart, I look at their picture and if it's a hot guy, I'm like, oh my God, like, I'll comb my hair.

[Evan Ross Katz]

But I think that she was lone. I think that she's lonely and I cannot, I can't like, you know, I can't take that away from her. She was lonely, however. And you know, normally me, you know, I. How many times have I come on this podcast and be like, you know, what the woman did was bad.

[Kyle]

But, like, let's not forget what the

[Evan Ross Katz]

guy did, because I always feel like the women always get in these situations. The women always get it worse than the guys. Like, let's not overlook what Wes did. Well, Wes is shitty, and he's been trying to perpetuate an image of him being this nice guy and sensitive and thoughtful, but he's doing something shitty. However, in this case, I actually think Amanda is the shittier one because I think the hurt to Sierra is. Is worth. I think Amanda's hurt to Sierra is worse than Wes hurt to Sierra or West hurt to Kyle. I think Amanda and Sierra is a deeper, richer relationship, and I think that we see Sierra as someone who's very, very guarded, and she's worked hard to bring down her walls just to be on the show and be, like, a contributing member to the show. She's let down her walls, and, you know, they always are encouraging her to come out of her shell a little bit more and. And not be so cut and dry. And I feel like this is the exact sort of thing that gives Sierra her walls in the first place and has her put them up. And I just think it's damaging to her. I think it's, like, really cruel. And. And I think, like, I think Amanda, forget Kyle, forget anyone else in the house. I think Amanda. This is really so hurtful to Sierra, and I think it's. It's. It's.

[Ronnie]

Well, but, you know, and not taking west out again. West is the one who got involved so deeply emotionally with Sierra and then is doing this so west, you know, west is still West. I think. I think it comes down to, like, who I just like the most. And I'm not going to go hate Amanda after this, but I didn't like west anyway, so he can fuck. Yeah.

[Evan Ross Katz]

I'm just saying I think Amanda did the shittier. I think in this case, Amanda did do the shittier thing. You know, I. You know, I'm always the one who's gonna be like, remember the guys rolling this?

[Kyle]

Don't let massage.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Don't let cultural misogyny make you forget about what the guy did. But I think actually in this case, Amanda. Amanda was more of the. Like, I think she's inflicted more harm and. But they're both. They both did something incredibly shitty.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yikes.

[Ronnie]

So that's that. Yeah, Yikes. Okay. So good luck with that. Good luck with that.

[Evan Ross Katz]

You two have fun picking up the camera. I wonder if I'm sure Bravo's Gonna pick up the camera. Well, I guess the city is the picking up of the cameras. Yeah, cameras on the City.

[Ronnie]

Because they said that they went shooting right. They shot the city right after Summer House, which means they would have been through, like, August. August, September, through the holidays, roughly. So, yeah, they'll probably pick those cameras

[Amanda]

right back up, baby.

[Evan Ross Katz]

And out of respect to one of the great reality TV shows of all time, known as the City, let's please call this show by its proper name, in the City. Because there's a difference between in the City and the City.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, there's no Olivia Palermo here. Don't even try it.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Don't even.

[Ronnie]

You can still. You can steal someone's man, but you cannot steal Olivia Palermo.

[Evan Ross Katz]

From my memory, I just saw an Entertainment Weekly cover from, like 2006 with Olivia Palermo on it. I was like, oh, God, I missed that show. It was so good. The City. I would argue that the city was better than the hills.

[Ronnie]

I really did like the city, though. Oh, my God. I still remember her apartment, Olivia's apartment on the rooftop of that place. And she had people over for dinner, and the whole table was outside in New York. I mean, wow. Anyway, the point is, and I don't want anyone to ever forget, so good for that day. So sorry to everybody who doesn't even know what that stuff is. We will, you know, timestamp this, so if you don't give a shit about these children.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Sorry for everyone who tuned in to listen to us talk about starfish on the floor of the sea. By the way, Fish Report will be a little shorter this week. We've been. We don't even. We get so excited talking about it, we don't even realize how much time goes by. But this time, we're gonna. We're gonna tighten it up.

[Ronnie]

Tighten it up. Yeah, we'll see about that. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin commercial.

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Stephen]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Hayden]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[Stephen]

That's right.

[Ronnie]

Hei. Hei.

[Stephen]

So each week, you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single chapter.

[Hayden]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[Stephen]

News flash. I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you can find Fantasy Fanfellas wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so here we are below. Deck Down Under Season four, Episode nine.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Ellie is furious at Ben, and she's

[Jenna]

now just gone marching upstairs to the captain. I need to see the captain. I need to see the captain right now. Captain.

[Ronnie]

Captain, no, don't go through there. There's customers there. Don't go through there.

[Amanda]

That's where the guys are. See? I don't care. I do not care. I sold fruit as a child.

[Jenna]

I sold fruit for milk. Easy, child. I will do this. Captain, what just happened in the galley, it's unacceptable.

[Evan Ross Katz]

He's like, what happened?

[Jenna]

The way Ben speaks to me, just

[Ronnie]

what was it about Jason and his Homer Simpson backing into a bush eyes. He's just like, oh, what happened there? It's just like slowly backing away. He just does that blink, blink. He's like, oh, God, another day of women's emotions. And let's. Let's watch how I react to women's emotions this time. He's just like, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Like, I was just looking for my M&M's. Now I have to deal with this.

[Amanda]

He needs me to do certain things for dinner, but he never told me about it. And then all of a sudden, he was like, you need to hurry up. Dinner is starting. Well, you need to do all these things. I could have prioritized my day better if you, as my manager, have told me, by the way, these are your taxes. I need them done by this time. What is the point of whiteboard? Why?

[Evan Ross Katz]

And you told him that?

[Jenna]

I just told him that right now, me and my ponytail told him. Your pin is trying to make me feel like we are about to fail dinner service because of me. So, yes, I lost it, but this man is literally driving me insane.

[Evan Ross Katz]

He's like, well, I actually thought the communication was pretty good inside the galley. I mean, not that I was in there or observing or doing anything other than smelling samples of. Of sandalwood, but we. I thought you guys were working well together.

[Ronnie]

I haven't had a woman come up here crying lately, so I figured everything was okay in the galley and I could watch Real Housewives of Salt Lake City with my little talking boyfriends that I eat. All right, so sorry, but I had no sign of this. She's like, well, I've been trying, so. And he's like, oh, yeah, I can see that. I can see that you're trying. Okay, let me blank a few times blankly. Okay, you. Are you backing away, or am I backing away? Not really sure. I'm in a bush. I'm in a bush. All right, the show's over. Okay. I don't. I think that this is. This is kind of a weak argument of Ellie's going up there and being like, he's mad at me because I didn't do stuff, and I didn't even know I was supposed to do stuff. This sounds like it's just not a good argument. I mean, if you're gonna go up there being like, he calls me sweetie and sugar and dumbass all day, and he's so condescending, and I can't. And then he gets pissy, and no one sees the pissy side. They only see this. Oh, he's sweet.

[Amanda]

It's not sweet.

[Ronnie]

I'm sick of this. Like, if she had done something like that, maybe. But this whole, like, he wanted stuff done that I didn't get done, but he didn't tell me in time, and I'm pissed.

[Evan Ross Katz]

It's like, yeah, that's a. That's a conversation you have after service. I agree with you, though. Like, I think that her. Her frustration with being called honey and sweetie and. And, you know, putting Pops, like, for sure, that's actually 100% worthy of going to the captain to discuss and she does. She does do that very shortly. But I think that, like, I wonder if she's, like, trying to think, like, maybe I should lead with more of the managerial things first before I get into my personal issues.

[Kyle]

But she's like, I'm not going to

[Jenna]

be a doormat captain.

[Evan Ross Katz]

What about being a kimono?

[Jenna]

No, I will not be a kimono.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Like, well, I totally agree. You won't be a doormat or kimono. So then downstairs, Jenna walks into the galley, and she's like, all right. He's like, no, I'm not very all right, custard cheeks.

[Kyle]

Elena just spat chips at me big time. It's like, you know, with no inkling of prior unhappiness. Except for the meeting that we had three hours earlier. This is all coming as a big,

[Evan Ross Katz]

big shock to me.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Evan Ross Katz]

And

[Ronnie]

sorry.

[Amanda]

He's like, yeah, you know, this is just unfair. You know, this is completely unfair. Now she's complaining to the captain in the middle. I mean, that's not professional. You save it. I have the weight, the world on my shoulders, so I need to be in a good head space, and this is just not what I need right now. I mean, what is this? A wedding that I've already paid for that I've been left at?

[Ronnie]

What?

[Jenna]

Captain Jason. He always calls me honey baby, sweetie pie, sugar pie. It's humiliating to me. What about good nicknames? Like, good vegetable seller, bombing survivor, milk drinker, things like that? That was always called.

[Ronnie]

Well, he shouldn't be calling you anything that you don't want to be called. You've got boundaries, and you need to communicate those boundaries, but all communicate with him about that as well. And I think you need to go back in and create boundaries. That's what we're doing today, all right? Today, I don't even want you cutting cucumbers. I want you creating boundaries, all right? Because. Because I'm with you. I understand. I'll get to the bottom of it. Or. I'm sorry, that was a private body part. I shouldn't have said that. All right, But I will get. I will get to it. Don't you worry.

[Evan Ross Katz]

This is the most generic advice. Create boundaries. I was like, are you using Cap GPT? Like, why. Why are you. What is this? It's like, how do I respond to an angry stew? Jason has one thing.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah, boundaries.

[Amanda]

I've.

[Ronnie]

I've heard the term before. Let's say boundaries a lot. Until she leaves, we'll just keep saying boundaries. Jason, whenever a woman comes up there crying, just gets this Same. He just doesn't know how to take it. It's so funny to me. And he's like.

[Amanda]

And she's like, thank you, Captain. I appreciate you.

[Ronnie]

And he's like, no problem. Truffle tonsils. Oh, damn it. Sorry. Really is addictive. It really is addictive.

[Evan Ross Katz]

You know what? I'm shocked. I thought everything was fantastic down there and they're working well together. Last charter, and I don't want to dismiss her feelings in a situation. However, I would like to watch Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. However, there's a time for everything, including watching South Salt Lake City, and that time should be now. And instead, I'm not doing it. So the time for this complaint is not 10 minutes before dinner. So I'm probably going to have to keep my head in the galley a little bit, monitor this and make sure the food goes out and tempers don't go up. And I'll. I'll do that by sitting in my room and watching TV instead, by the way. And speaking of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, just a little bit of an aside, did you happen to see the video of Brittany Bateman trying on outfits that she posted just yesterday? Did you see that?

[Ronnie]

What was that like? Was she crying and do I need to set some boundaries?

[Evan Ross Katz]

She was not setting any boundaries. Actually. The issue is that her boundaries were a little bit too wavy because basically she was like. It was just a little silly video, like Sabrina Carpenter playing, and she's, like, trying on different outfits.

[Kyle]

She's like, look at me in this outfit, and now this outfit, and then this outfit.

[Evan Ross Katz]

But what people noticed is that the walls behind her were starting to, like, wave a bit. So basically she had used AI to, like, either, I don't know, maybe look, look better or something, I don't know. But she was using AI to have this fashion video, and everyone clocked it up right away because, like, your door is squiggling. It's so Brittany B.

[Ronnie]

Like the ones Kim Zolciak used to make where she'd be all skinny, but then the walls bending in towards her.

[Evan Ross Katz]

It's like, what an interesting shaped doorway. That S shaped door is so fascinating.

[Ronnie]

It's a doorway for the letter S to come into your life. And as we all know, the letter S ends the word boundaries. Well, let's create them. Let's create them. So Ellie comes back to the galley, and she's still pissed. And Ben's just like, oh, God. You know, he's just kind of going about his. So Daisy comes In.

[Amanda]

She's like, can I take out the charcuterie now?

[Ronnie]

And she goes into the walking, but she hears everything that happens. And Ben's like, you know, I don't

[Amanda]

really want to work around this energy tonight. All right? You know, it's gonna affect me.

[Ronnie]

All right?

[Amanda]

It's just gonna affect me. I can't take it. Cookie.

[Ronnie]

Cookie.

[Amanda]

Capillaries.

[Jenna]

Every single day, Ben.

[Kyle]

It's like, okay, that's great, but this is very different to how I react. Snickers. Snickers.

[Amanda]

Get over it, Ben. Okay, Run out of sexism.

[Kyle]

Sinuses. Sinuses. I'm putting it in. Snickers. Sinuses.

[Amanda]

Get over it, Ben.

[Ronnie]

So Daisy's just, like, making that face like she's loving this, but, you know, also, like, trying to hide behind a charcuterie board.

[Evan Ross Katz]

There's a.

[Ronnie]

Like, never in my life have I seen somebody go with their boss in

[Amanda]

the galley like this. Never.

[Kyle]

So Ben's like, you see, I can't deal with what you're doing to me right now. Caramel cupcakes, you know?

[Jenna]

Oh, don't start with me, Ben. Then don't call me a caramel cupcake after you just called me a snicker. Sinus is not right. Cupcake isn't even a body part.

[Amanda]

You think I'm direct.

[Ronnie]

This. This. This girl throws me out of the water with her directness.

[Amanda]

If you can't deal with it, then don't start it. How about that?

[Evan Ross Katz]

So the guests are just being. They're receiving a charcubi board from Ellie. I'm from Daisy. And Ellie is just, like, washing dishes, and she's just mumbling.

[Jenna]

Look at you waking all that. He ever sold vegetables for milk? I don't think so. Maybe if you did. It's probably skim milk. Not even the good milk.

[Amanda]

I wouldn't even give cucumber for this.

[Ronnie]

So now we go to the guest at the bar, and Daisy's serving the charcuterie, and Daisy is. She sees Jason. She's like a standstander, and he's like, yeah, well, guess what? She needs boundaries. She's got to set them. Boundaries have got to be set. Well, I'm staying out of that.

[Amanda]

That was way too tense for me.

[Ronnie]

I really don't like confrontation like that.

[Amanda]

And I. Gary.

[Evan Ross Katz]

So Jenna's like, what's your worst.

[Kyle]

Is, it's my commander. She's like, where's the tahin?

[Evan Ross Katz]

See, this is what I want for my team to be like, where's the tajeen? That's like, now that's a good boundary. It's a he boundary. I like that for you.

[Ronnie]

So back in the galley.

[Amanda]

Pistachios are ready. Next task. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on there, my little candy cane cochlear.

[Ronnie]

All right.

[Amanda]

Oh, damn it.

[Ronnie]

Did I just say that?

[Amanda]

I didn't mean.

[Ronnie]

All right, just hold on. Just. Elena. Is that just your name, right? Elena.

[Amanda]

All right.

[Ronnie]

Sorry, that.

[Amanda]

Let's stick with my first name. Yes, Elena.

[Evan Ross Katz]

All right there. Snickerdoodle supreme.

[Jenna]

What is. No, that has many people.

[Evan Ross Katz]

So the guests have.

[Ronnie]

They're.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Everyone's changing to red, and Daisy's like, alicia, go get started on the rooms. So they're sitting up for dinner, and Daisy tells Mike to help Alicia with turn downs and everything. And we start. The food starts coming out. There's crispy pork belly. There's Brussels sprouts. There's an onion salad, there's a parmesan crisp.

[Kyle]

It's all delightful stuff.

[Ronnie]

Can I just say, I am so sick of Brussels sprouts. They have had their day. Let them go. Okay. Everybody is still serving Brussels sprouts. So it's like, it's this trendy new thing. Do you remember when Brussels sprouts became, like, trendy? And everyone's like, oh, my God, we hated them when we were young. But, gosh, throw a little balsamic in them and put them in the oven for a while, they are just delicious. They are not. They are not. I'm sick of everybody pretending they're good. They're not delicious. They're sour and they taste like pee and they smell like pee, and I don't want them. I'm sick of seeing them find a new vegetable.

[Evan Ross Katz]

If they're roasted properly, they are absolutely delicious. I think if they're roasted and crispy and crunchy and like, but sort of soft on the inside, I think they're delicious. If they're undercooked or they're boiled, they're not great. But I will say they can. But what I will say, though, okay, but what I will say is that the novelty of Brussels sprouts has sort of passed. I think, like, if I see them on a menu, I'm not necessarily like, we got to get the Brussels sprouts. However, if we do get them, I'm always happy. But I mean, right now, cabbage has really is having its moment, and that's basically like. Like the bigger version of a Brussels sprout. It's just like a giant Brussels sprout. But cabbages. Cabbage is where it's at right now, cabbage is exciting, which is good.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'll. I'll go with. Which is, like, the new trendy thing, Brussels sprouts. I just feel like it's over, you know? It's like Shiplap in your house. It was cute. It's time to end it. Do I blame Joanna games for Brussels?

[Evan Ross Katz]

Like, Joanna losses?

[Ronnie]

I could, though. Also, I'm sick of beet and goat cheese salads. They're everywhere, and they need to stop.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Just stop. I've got something.

[Ronnie]

We need to find new foods.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Okay, we got. We got. Okay, there's a lot to take in here.

[Amanda]

There's a lot to unpack here.

[Jenna]

He doesn't like beets, but maybe he

[Kyle]

could do a spin on this for

[Jenna]

some good BPM moments.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Okay. Wow. Here's. Here's what I have to say. Beaten goat cheese salad, Brussels sprouts. Like, if you see it on a menu, it is dated. Like, this is. It's dated. However. However beaten. Go cheese sounds still kind of is delicious.

[Ronnie]

Like, I mean, it can be. I just need new things, and I think, especially as, like, a pescatarian, there's not a lot for me to eat, which is my own fault. Right. That's my choice. But I think that people. People. It's my choice, I should say. But people just are like, okay, well, just. We need something vegetarian, so make Brussels sprouts and beaten goat cheese salad. And it's everywhere. And it's like, oh, it's the.

[Evan Ross Katz]

The novelty is gone. The novelty is gone. And, like, it's just. I. I think it's. I think both those dishes are honestly quite delicious. I'm always happy to have them. But maybe at, like, a potluck, I think if I'm going to a restaurant and I see it, I'm not as excited. That being said, there's a restaurant here in LA called Petit Trois, and they have a beaten goat cheese salad that I ordered, and I was like, well, this is so 90s of me, but I'm gonna order it anyway. And I was, like, floored by how delicious it was. I was like. I told the chef. I was like, this is the best beaten goat cheese salad I've ever had. I feel, like, so, like, it really can be transcendent, but it's just. It's not exciting anymore. And I think on a. On a yacht, just.

[Ronnie]

I'm bored.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Yeah, it's. We just. We could be doing better.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, there's. There's more. There's more to life. You know what I mean? So Alicia is sent to do turn downs and then, yeah, you know, whatever. Dinner is served. So Alicia is bossing Mike around, which he loves.

[Amanda]

It's like, let's be extra digilant on toilet paper. And also like the side cabinets.

[Ronnie]

Cuz that was feedback from who it

[Amanda]

was that feedback from. From a previous charter. Interesting. Very interesting, Alicia. So you'll be a stewardess in no time. Look at me. Teaching, teaching, teaching. He's like, oh,

[Evan Ross Katz]

Then Jason is now doing this thing where he's like sort of standing in the doorway of the galley, like looking in. Like they can't see me. And as long as they can't see me. Oh, I can't see them. I'm like, well, you both actually. They can see you. You're not hidden. You're not hidden. They see you right there. Jason.

[Ronnie]

Jason's way. He's like, I'm gonna go down to the galley and I'm gonna deal with this right now. And then he just kind of stands behind the doorway and looks and it's like, oh God. There any M M's down here? Any?

[Evan Ross Katz]

I'd like to calm things down. I'd like to offer you both something delicious to eat. This is a Chinese bow. It does have some dairy in it.

[Ronnie]

It.

[Evan Ross Katz]

It's a dairy bow. Or it's like to call it a bow jury boundary. It's a boundary.

[Ronnie]

You got a boundary. So Jenna and Daisy are going over tomorrow's gay wedding that they're going to be throwing. And we hear the guests, one of them's like, oh my God, we're gonna be wearing beige at our wedding. Because we're not versions.

[Amanda]

Everyone's like, oh my God, that's hilarious. Gay people. Oh my God.

[Kyle]

Gay people.

[Amanda]

Am I right?

[Ronnie]

So then maybe not virgins.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Doesn't mean you have to like, like, then like your next option is beige. Might as well just go like a full. Go red or something like that. Like you're released from the white. Do something bigger like you know what to show our. How sexy our love life is. We're going to wear beige.

[Amanda]

Well, I do have a lot of

[Ronnie]

sex, so I'm not going to wear white. But I have sex with someone I. Some old man I picked up at the Tommy Bahamas store.

[Amanda]

So it's. It's going to be beige. It's going to be beige.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Don't tell Alex McCord. She may show up in a matching color. That's a throwback. Do you guys remember Ronnie? Remember when Alex McCord wore beige to like a wedding in quag or something? In Jill's Aaron's.

[Kyle]

Like, how could she wear the beige. The wedding. You can't wear cream colors at the wedding. It's absolutely inappropriate. This is exactly what she would do.

[Ronnie]

I'm sorry, Joel, Zarin, you've been canceled from this recap.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Sorry, You've been canceled from that flashback that. That Ben just had.

[Kyle]

I didn't even say something. Why? Like, why is it. Well, we're only seeing beige outfits. What happened to all the white outfits? What happened to all the white outfits?

[Ronnie]

Am I supposed to understand all the beige commercials?

[Evan Ross Katz]

Here comes one right now.

[Hayden]

Howdy, howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[Stephen]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Hayden]

And we are currently deep div Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[Stephen]

That's right.

[Ronnie]

Hey.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Hey.

[Stephen]

So each week, you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single chapter.

[Hayden]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[Stephen]

News flash. I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you can find Fantasy Fan fellows wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Ronnie]

So now we cut to the guests, and yeah, they're. They're still talking about beige because they're them. So then Daisy finds Mike and Alicia and orders some red wine and champagne for his turndown. And she's like, you got to get this. It's very important for a romantic turndown.

[Amanda]

Okay? Red wine and champagne.

[Ronnie]

And so Jason is continuing to kind of stand in the doorway blinking blankly, and they're still serving food. This is grouper with pistachio and roasted tomato. Now there. Thank you.

[Evan Ross Katz]

There.

[Ronnie]

There's something that's not. Brussels sprouts.

[Kyle]

Did you mean to serve a refreshing dish at last? Wow, you just lost Padma's culinary cup

[Evan Ross Katz]

with your Brussels sprouts.

[Kyle]

But you want it back with a grouper? Congratulations.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Stupid.

[Amanda]

All right, I've got a thought. All right. Joao. Joao. Joel, I might need a hand in here, please, because we need, like, rotate these dishes, please. Oh, no. That is my job. That is my job, rotating dishes. How dare you? This is my job, rotating dishes. You will not give someone else my rotating dishes job.

[Jenna]

When I was young, I used to rotate stones in the town square so I could buy myself heavy cream. This is special time for me.

[Amanda]

When I was a child, I would rotate wishes. One wish was not to have to sell milk. The other wish was not to have to sell fruit. The other wish. It was a cycle. It was a cycle. I'm not going to lie.

[Jenna]

I once had to spend three full days rotating pebbles in town square just so I could afford pineapple.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, all right, fine. Great. You do it.

[Amanda]

Well, I don't accept it, okay? You're not going to do this shit to me. I don't accept that ever again. I am dish rotator.

[Evan Ross Katz]

I have to say, it is. Is it is inappropriate to sass off to your boss that way. But I kind of loved it. I love that she was like, oh, no, no, no. You're not gonna now start, like, pushing me out of my job. You're not gonna start minimizing me. You're not gonna do this to me. I am like, these are my responsibilities. Is this a mundane task of rotating dishes? Absolutely. But it is my task, and you're not gonna push me out of this. So I kind of, like, loved that she just, like, two feet down, stood up for herself, even though professionally probably not appropriate.

[Ronnie]

I was cracking up because she just takes it so far. But you know what? People like Ben, like, he just laughs it off, you know, through most of it, and it's really getting to him. And it's funny. It's like, you treat people how you want to be treated or teach people how you want to be treated, I guess. And she's definitely doing that.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Yeah. And we've seen, by the way, we've seen some of the strongest women on this franchise go out. Ben, we've seen. Kate, we've seen. Hannah, we've seen. And whoever else. I think Ellie is the first person who has basically been able to just, like. Like, I'm not gonna say shut up, Ben, or silence, Ben, but, like, really kind of halt him. I don't think he's ever been halted, even by Kate, ever before.

[Ronnie]

Daisy's pretty good at dealing, too, I have to say. Yeah. Daisy's like, oh, don't you give me that punch?

[Amanda]

All right,

[Evan Ross Katz]

Daisy's. I. God, I love Daisy so hard.

[Ronnie]

So that's pretty good. You know, you're. I think you're right, though. I think that she. Ellie, is going too far in a way. But it's also so funny to watch because he really does not know how to deal with it. And he's like, all right, well, she

[Amanda]

goes, okay, do not with me. I will do my job. So what do you need, please?

[Ronnie]

And he's like, I'd like to scrape all of that red stuff into a clean bowl.

[Amanda]

Thanks.

[Ronnie]

Rotate the place.

[Amanda]

Okay, I've got it, chef.

[Jenna]

And also label the laundry. That was retroactive for Brie last season,

[Kyle]

as long as I'm in a role.

[Evan Ross Katz]

So Daisy's like, oh, my gosh, the galley is so tense.

[Kyle]

And Jenna's like, who lives then ever?

[Jenna]

Was Lisa not feeling comfortable in the galley?

[Kyle]

Plus, the south are going off in comfortable. Who lives on?

[Evan Ross Katz]

I'm trying to work. I've got dinner service to do.

[Amanda]

Quiet, Jenna.

[Ronnie]

And now we go back to Mike and Alicia, and she's still bossing him around.

[Amanda]

She's like, remember to do the day head. I've done the day head. Did you definitely take a hand towel? Because I know that needs a new one. He's like, alicia's younger than me. She's a lot less mature than everybody on this boat, and she's already failed in the galley. So it gets under my skin when Alicia tries to delegate to us. I just can't take it anymore.

[Jenna]

It's under my implant plants.

[Evan Ross Katz]

So Lisa's like, I'm quite good at

[Kyle]

delegating because I know exactly what needs to be done. For instance, when cleaning a room, you always leave a pan on top of the closet and a little bonbon at the bottom of the bed inside the covers where the feet are.

[Amanda]

Well, I already work for days, and Joel, I don't need extra management. Mike needs management, and I'm management. Are you able to make that box up to the primary? And he's like, oh, God damn it.

[Ronnie]

So he just goes off, and we see a flashback of five seconds ago where Daisy's like, could you take some wine and champagne and flowers and some

[Amanda]

chocolates up to the. Up to the team's down or whatever? And Lisa's like, do you have the checklist? Go get the checklist. And he's like,

[Evan Ross Katz]

I feel like Alicia and Mike remind me of two kids at recess, like, role playing. Like, they're in an office, right? Like, yeah, you just see Them, like, walking around, like, the playground.

[Kyle]

And one's like, I need my reports right now. It's like, I can't give you the reports. It's like, but you need the reports.

[Evan Ross Katz]

I'm your manager. And you're like, oh, that's cute. The kids are pretending like they're, like, having real jobs, but of course, their children have no idea what they're talking about. And I feel like that's what. That's what's happening with these two when

[Kyle]

she's like, our management, make sure you know what you're doing. Don't forget to wipe down the. The doorknob. And you have to use vegetable oil to do it, to make it nice and shiny.

[Jenna]

I don't want to be delegated about that.

[Ronnie]

And they. They're both constantly trying to tell us that they know more than everybody, but neither one of them knows anything. And it's so funny. So now the tables are being cleared, and chocolate fondant comes out, and everybody's

[Amanda]

like, oh, my God, Ben is the best. He's the best. Yes. Ben is, like, beige.

[Ronnie]

Ben is beige at a wedding.

[Amanda]

The best.

[Ronnie]

So then we go to the bar, and Mike is asking Jennifer a tray.

[Amanda]

And she's like, don't take it like this. Just. Just on a tray. You got to put something on it, like a napkin or something. It's not going to look right.

[Kyle]

No, I'll put a cloth on it. Darling, darling, darling, we got it.

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Kyle]

All right. All right, Ellie, I'll be back in a little bit. Boopsy snoot.

[Jenna]

Don't call me boopsy snoot.

[Kyle]

Sorry about that. I meant baby gravy.

[Jenna]

What?

[Kyle]

Baby gravy. I'll stand two feet in it. Baby gravy.

[Jenna]

Why are you saying those things to me?

[Amanda]

How dare you?

[Ronnie]

So he goes out, and Alicia comes in, and she's like, are you all right, Al? Sh.

[Amanda]

Oh, I had blood, Ben. He goes, oh, my God, honey, don't be so sensitive. And when he said that, I went off. I said, don't you with me ever again. I'm dis rotator.

[Kyle]

I get it. That's why I couldn't do it. Also, I had no idea what to

[Evan Ross Katz]

do in the kitchen. I put a knife in the cheesecake.

[Kyle]

They didn't like that?

[Amanda]

Well, I put them in place for both of us.

[Ronnie]

And so Alicia is, like, dancing and spanking herself, like, yes, girl. So meanwhile, Mike is getting things ready still. But then he goes down to the pantry, and he's like, good, I'm thirsty all the time.

[Amanda]

I'm thirsty all the time.

[Ronnie]

And then he. We just see him chugging, kind of leaning around. Meanwhile, the guests are clearing and heading to the bed. Will everything make it to the room on time?

[Evan Ross Katz]

So Clay, who is basically like Nathan Lane's character in the birdcage, is like, oh, God.

[Kyle]

Hey. We say there's no wine or champagne in our room. Can someone help us?

[Evan Ross Katz]

Jenna, I'm so sorry. Is there some wine and champagne that you can get in here? I don't know why I give him a Southern accent, but that was the vibe I suddenly felt for him. And he's not Southern at all, but Jenna's like, what the.

[Kyle]

She's like, mack, Mac. Mac, they don't have that champagne of the wine. Can you bring the champagne? The rice pocket?

[Evan Ross Katz]

And Jenna's like, no, that took a

[Kyle]

awfully long time to get hot. Spocket must be done, Mike, before he gets this room. Like, ask for help if you need help. He's like, yeah, of course. Yeah. Just like, I saw this. And she's like, nah, m. Come on, bring it in now.

[Evan Ross Katz]

So, of course he brings the stuff. He brings the flowers and everything. But, like, why did it take him so long? They asked for that so long ago. How did he not bring red wine and a bucket of ice with champagne in it down to the room right away?

[Ronnie]

Because he's leaning and spraying his hair and drinking and just taking forever. So Daisy sees Jenna. She's like, what's the primary pissed off about the champagne?

[Amanda]

She's like, no, he was just. Compared to minutes to find an art pocket for sake.

[Kyle]

Okay, well, Elliot, if I can explain why I wasn't myself today. Cinnamon swirl class, Barilla. It's because, you know, it was the first time I didn't really have you helping me with food prep. And that was fine because you were doing other stuff, like yelling at me a lot. That's why I was, like, in my head. It reminded me of when I was throwing a wedding that I paid for. Never attended myself. I'm more sensitive now. So how do you feel your reaction to it all was?

[Amanda]

Well, my reaction was justified because you are belittling me, and I stood up for myself, which I will continue doing. Okay, well, glad we settled that one. Can you just go to bed, please? Toffee tendon, Please.

[Jenna]

Don't. Don't tell me to get out of here.

[Kyle]

Well, when does your job finish, Duke Fluffernucker?

[Jenna]

Nutter?

[Amanda]

When I clean up, it is finished. Unlike you, I don't leave the galley until it's clean.

[Ronnie]

Well, she's not gonna. She's not even gonna let him make up with her. She's like, nope, I'm done.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Really thought, like, okay, dinner service is done. Tensions can come back down again. Everything will be fine.

[Jenna]

She's like, no, I am completely justified. You shut the up, you stupid.

[Kyle]

So then he's like, okay, I guess I'll just go to my room now. It's like, are you angry right now? Are you angry?

[Evan Ross Katz]

Giggle biscuit.

[Jenna]

Like, don't fucking try me, Ben. Don't fucking try me.

[Kyle]

He's like, are you threatening me now?

[Jenna]

I'm not threatening you. I'm just saying, don't try me. I am like, poisonous appetizer. Don't try me.

[Amanda]

Oh, you are intimidating. And you're swearing at me as well, are you? You're swearing at me as well. Shut the fuck up, Ben.

[Ronnie]

Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one. Of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

Our way is the Amber way.

[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

It's Emily Gaultier.

[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

some scotch with Jessica Trot.

[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Kyle]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

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[Evan Ross Katz]

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[Ronnie]

She eases our woes. It's Melissa St. Rose. There's a chance of meatballs. It's Rebecca Cloud. She's our princess. It's Rebecca Prince.

[Evan Ross Katz]

Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska. She's the queen bee. It's Sarah Lemke.

[Ronnie]

We cannot tell a lie.

[Evan Ross Katz]

It's Sarah Tell of son Shannon out of a can. And Anthony, please don't stop at solely and pop. Let's take off with Tamla playing.

[Ronnie]

Strike a pose. It's Tori Rose. She ain't no shrinking violet Coutar. We love you guys. Guys,

[Hayden]

Howdy, howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[Stephen]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Hayden]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Stephen here has not read Mistborn before.

[Stephen]

That's right.

[Ronnie]

Hey.

[Kyle]

Hey.

[Stephen]

So each week, you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to episode, every single chapter.

[Hayden]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[Stephen]

News flash. I'm never wrong. Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you can find Fantasy Fan Fellas wherever you get your podcasts

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