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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hi, Ben.
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Hi. Oh, and there's Dominique.
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That's Dom. Someone who has not slept with Ben's best friend. Dominique, everybody. What a cutie.
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Dominique. He just came in to say hello. He's like, are you starting? I was like, it's okay, you can come in. I didn't realize he was gonna give a surprise kiss on the air.
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It's so lovely, you know. Open us with some true love on this dark, dark summer house day. Welcome to Summer Houses. Just real quick, if you want this on video or you want bonus episodes this week was a really long, really fun Survivor recap. Or you want Discord server access to talk to everybody, listeners, Bravo fans. Or you want our free newsletter, which is a weekly blog making fun of Bravo shows. Just go sign up@patreon.com, watch what crappens and thanks so much to everybody who is over there. We love you guys. This coming Monday is going to be crappy hour live at 5:30 Pacific Time, which I'm sure we'll be going over all this Amanda west news and other stuff. And our Amazon lives are every Monday at 1:30 Pacific Time. So there. There's all our plugs.
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All the plugs. Wow.
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We are.
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We have more plugs than a Turkish hair process. Yeah.
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We have more plugs than Mike on Below Deck Down Under.
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Yeah. I wish I could have landed that joke a little bit better. How can you. How can you land jokes when there's so much drama in there? Yeah. Speaking Below deck. If you didn't listen to our Below Deck episode yesterday, that was when we had our dun dun, dun dun breaking news about Amanda and Kai Kyle. I'm sorry, West. That Amanda's infamous IG story broke. She published it about five seconds before we went live. So we read it live on the air there. We had our initial impressions. So if you want to hear what we felt like, if you want to hear the. The amount that we were gagged and gooped, you can listen to our Below Deck episode. But of course, we're probably going to be talking about this all week long and for the next several weeks because it's now going to be a thing. And so today's headlines that I saw, of course, I went to Page Six and the first thing that I saw was that west was in a committed relationship with an influencer named Montana Girl.
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And, oh, my God, you cheated on Montana Girl on Montana Girl.
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So that.
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That.
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So now we can elevate this up to the level of affair. So congratulations to this, to the scandal. Second of all, Bethany Frankel weighed in because Page Six, for some reason tracks everything Bethany Frankel says, and she pretty much says things to be tracked by Page Six. So they have a great relationship. And basically, Bethany Frankel was like, what? There's like, two single people that, like, made out. They're consulting, they're consenting adults, like, move on. Like, what's the big deal? Huh? Huh? Like, who wants what?
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Who cares?
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Huh?
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I was like, okay, typical hypocritical Bethany who had a fit over multiple people dating Tom years ago. Yeah, typical Bethany. Typical. I Saw a. Yeah, I saw a few things. I saw that Wes and Amanda have been dating for a long time. And not only that, he is not just with Amanda, he's with multiple people and was not dating anybody really. So she's just kind of one of many. And then I saw Dave Portnoy. Did you see him?
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Yes. I didn't watch it. I'm not gonna sit and watch a Dave Portnoy video. But I did watch what Page Six.
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I did. Someone sent a link to me, so I watched his Tick tock. Because I don't. I don't. I don't know. I'm not like a barstool sports. I'm sure that I'm not in there, you know, desires for the demographic. Anyway, I don't think they're really coming for my viewership, but I just don't watch it because it's like dudes, it's like west. To me, it's like thousands of wests. Is. Is how I think of it. I don't know if that's accurate or not, so I'm not dissing it. That's just how I think of it.
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It's like vintage.
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Yeah, Vintage Carl. Vintage Kyle, that kind of guy. And so remember, they used to wear the hats and Jax wears the hats. So.
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No, no, that's where Saturdays for the boys came from, I think. I think that was a saying with. With Barstool sports. Whole summers for the boys.
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For the boys. Softer. That did not come from barstool sports.
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Softer than softer from, like, warm futon sports.
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Carl Sports. They came from Crossbow Cross. So, yeah, I watched his thing. I was cracking up. He's sitting on a beach somewhere and he's, you know, like all sun. He looks like a pirate. He looks like a weathered pirate. And he's like. Yeah, you know, I. Yeah, you know, I'm not. I'm not like that gossip queen kind of guy anymore, you know, because like, Like I'm older. Like, I'm sitting on a beach now just trying to get some sun. But, you know, everybody's bothering me about this west thing, you know, Like, I don't know west, you know, I mean, I kind of know Wes because, like, we was trying to do a podcast with him and, you know, that girl and it didn't work out because her agent's a pain in the ass and any. Anyway, but, you know, I knew about this West Amanda stuff because, you know, Brianna Chicken Fry. There's a name you don't hear every day. Brianna, you know, she told me, you know, at the super bowl, she was like, yeah, you know that west is dating that Amanda girl. It's going to be a big story. I mean, I don't care, you know, like, I know that Tom Brady is dating, you know, the Call of Daddy chick. What do I care? So I'm not a gossip queen. So that's neither here nor there. I love a straight guy, like, being like, I'm not a gossip queen, as he gives you all the gossip. It's so funny because straight guys are so like that to you. They're the best gossips.
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They are the biggest gossips, straight men. That's where the gossip all lives always will gossip. They'll gossip like crazy because in their mind, they actually don't think they're gossiping because they actually. They actually think that women are the only ones who are capable of gossiping. So for a man to gossip, it's just like he's just relaying information. Yeah, they do it.
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Their boobs have hair, that it doesn't count. It's weird.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, he goes on to say that Brianna Chicken Fry told him that Amanda and West were dating at the super bowl, which was February 8th. I looked it up.
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So Brianna Chicken Fries, a real name. At first I thought you just made that up. First I thought you just.
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Influencer. She's friends with west and she. She became famous to me because apparently she found, like, a bow on the ground and then got in a fight with a bathroom with a mom whose kid owned the bow. And she was like, you stole that bow for my kid. She's like, I, you lady. She's like, telling off the lady and think that she's doing something, but she, like, looked like a crazy idiot. So that's really all I know of her and that she's an influencer.
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She has 1.1 million followers on Instagram,
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more than anybody on Summer House, I think. Right. Well, probably, you know, current cast.
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Hard to say. Hard to say. But Chicken Fry.
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How can you not be huge with a name like Chicken Fry? I mean, I'll follow you. I don't even eat chicken.
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I'll follow.
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I'm Download Chicken Fry.
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I'm proud of her.
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Peanut butter on a bagel. That's going to be my new name. I'm going to get so many followers.
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Will be Ben and Ronnie side Sauce.
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Oh, my God. So, okay, so anyway, he said that he's. That Brianna said she saw those two or date. She knew that those two were dating all the way back at the super bowl, which was February 8th. And Dave went on to say, yeah, and you know, like he super bowl with Sierra. So that's like a big, huge thing. Cuz he was like. So apparently what I've heard is that Sierra was dating Wes. Like she decided to give him another chance and that they were kind of dating and then he. But the whole time he was banging Amanda. So listen, I don't know. I don't know what's true and what's not, cuz now information's literally just flying out there, you know.
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Yeah, this is. Everything is. Everything is coming at full speed and it's very intense. And we'll give you all the headlines as we hear them and we will regurgitate them. And we'll of course be waiting for Brian Chicken Fry to weigh in because I'm sure she'll have something to say. But this is. This is gonna be an ever evolving story and it's gonna get worse and worse. And of course, Andy today on Twitter was like, well, tweet me your questions for the Summer house reunion, which I was cracking up at, because he knows it's gonna be a flood of like hilarious questions and shady questions. He. I just. He's such a hilarious fangali. You know, this. The scandal breaks and he's like, well, send me your questions. I'm like, I don't know. You can see has this big smile on his face. And he is gonna go to town on West. I think it's great. Andy. Andy has different demeanors on different reunions. And when it comes to like the. The Youngin reunions, like Vanderpump Rules and Southern Charm and Summer House, even though they're not so young anymore, to him, they're still like the kids. He does not give a. And he will. He is gonna. I think he's gonna really destroy Wes. I mean, he'll. He'll go after Amanda, but he's gonna really go after West.
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No, Amanda's gonna do a lot of crying. Man, everyone will feel bad for she's crying. Yeah, I saw that Amanda lost a huge influencer deal yesterday. They came out and they were like, whatever. New. Same. Same cute clothes, new influencer. And they dumped her. And it had just launched. I mean, Amanda, Amanda. Leave it up to Amanda to launch an influencer campaign. And then 30 minutes later go on and release that statement. Like, what? And then Lindsay posted. Lindsay posted some douchebag from Love is Blind, and she goes, is this his PR person? Because I guess he's like one of the most hated people in the country, right? Now it's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappens commercial.
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Well, also, I did think it was curious that they released their joint statement on the day that Summer House airs. Normally, if people like, like, I don't know, I'm just, I just, I'm surprised they didn't bury it. Like, why do they. I'm surprised they didn't like drop it on like Easter Sunday when people might be distracted.
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Like politics. That's what they. Yeah, you know, they're like, put it on Friday night and then by the Monday, by the time Monday comes around, nobody will be talking. But you know what? I have to think these people are so stupid that they really thought this would help. I mean, maybe they thought like, maybe Wes thought, oh, I'm caping, you know, I'm like saving this poor girl. And then Amanda's like, well, everyone will feel for me because, you know, I was going through it with Kyle. I don't know. Yeah, because why else would you drop an influencer campaign? And then that I think that, like.
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Yeah, because as we're about to get into, because we are actually going to recap Summer House. You know, Amanda is like this. The show with Amanda and Kyle is dark and so maybe they're thinking, okay, people will be mad at me for a few hours, and then they're going to watch Summer House and be like, oh, I see why she did what she did, because she was in a desperate place and she was sad. You know, so maybe she waited for
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the most dramatic, the most Kyle being horrible episodes to finally release it, because then she's like, oh, well. But then they'll see Kyle being so horrible to me. Yeah, that makes sense, actually, politically.
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But instead, all it did was make the whole thing feel cringy. And what I will say is that it did remind me of Scandal in that we're watching something that was edited and presented to tell one narrative, but we know a different narrative in real life. And, gosh, that's fun. It's cringy and it's fun.
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Well, you know, I'm. I'm frankly sick of these people lying, and I'm sick of it. I've had it. I've had it with their privacy. And they're like, we don't owe you this. Yes, you do owe us. You are on tv. You owe us at least not lying. You know what I mean? And you guys lie all the time. Especially you, Amanda. Amanda just went through this whole big thing with Kyle where she was leaving Kyle, and everybody's like, oh, my God, did Amanda leave Kyle? She's like, no. She's making, like, joke posts on Instagram, like, oh, I just moved into the doghouse because she wasn't ready to come forward about it. No, you are on a reality show. You're making us sit here through this for year after year after year. You owe me this. You will tell me so. I think people are getting sick of them lying all the time and hiding things, and we're. We're tired. We will follow you now. People are following them through the streets.
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We're done. We're done.
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Yeah.
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I have to say something. That's. Something that's really distracting to me is that the new iOS has this thing where it puts, like, a little slideshow on. On your desktop, and it just, like, changes the photos throughout the day. You know?
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I want that.
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No, it just doesn't.
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No.
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Like, on my disk, on my laptop, on my. On my.
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That's your Mac OS, not your.
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I'm on Mac OS. I don't say iOS. I'm sorry. More like lios.
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But there's like, oh, my God, it's 111. Good luck.
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Good luck.
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I wish for $5 million. Okay, go ahead.
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It's actually 11. 11 over here. So it's almost like one more one than you.
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That's quadruple lock.
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Oh, my God. Like, I literally have given so much to have that extra one. And, like, it's fine. I walked to that one could fly. The whole point of the stupid thing I'm talking about is that. Is that on the desktop, there's this, like, little slideshow that happens in the background. I think it's just to be like, hey, remember this? And there is a shot from one of the crappies where Ariana was on. And she is looking over at you in the photo, but the window that we're recording on is covering up you. And it looks like she's just listening to you talk right now about Summer House and is just smiling. And it is the funniest thing. And I'm gonna show. I'm gonna show what this looks like because I keep on laughing at this. Like, this is. This is what it looks like on my screen right now. It's just Ariana staring at. Staring at us as we talk. Like, you guys. You guys don't even know what you're.
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What.
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What this is. Like these scandals with my 30, 000
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water bottles in front of her.
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Yeah.
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Probably start thinking about how that looks. Yeah. So this is pretty crazy, this Amanda west stuff. Just for those of you who didn't listen to the Blow Deck, don't want to go back to listen to that. I think the basic feeling is, these people, you know, how dare you? I knew west was trash. Obviously. I've been saying it for years. That guy's trash. I don't believe a thing that comes out of his mouth. As far as all of this, like, I want Sierra. He's doing it for tv. He's Amanda to get on the city. No one can tell me otherwise. And we discussed a little how west is not getting it as bad as Amanda. And I was saying I think it's because this ultimately is about a girl. Friendship, betrayal. I think no one cares about Kyle. Kyle deserves whatever. Amanda can fuck whoever she wants as far as I'm concerned with Kyle. Like, I'm not worried about Kyle's feelings for this. This is. You just betrayed a friend who's stands up for you even in this episode.
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She's.
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She's the one who told you you should leave your damn husband. She wouldn't have told you that if she had known that you were gonna go her ex without telling her about it. So I think ultimately this is about just a bad, rotten betrayal. And I think it sucks. And I'm.
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You know, I think it sucks too. Yeah. And I don't think anyone feels too bad for Kyle because I don't know if Kyle. I don't know how much Kyle cares. You know, he was on Watch what Happens Live last week, and Andy asked him, like, if it's true, what would you say? He's like, that'd be crazy. But, like, if Amanda did that, then, I mean, if it made her happy, I guess I'd be okay with it now. Easier said than done. I don't know if he still feels that way, but part of me feels like Kyle would be more than happy just to have Amanda out. Like, just be like, fine, give her someone else. Move on to someone else. And I can move on, and I can now I can start banging chicks and people won't get mad at me.
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Yeah, Kyle is happy. Kyle should be sending them thank you cards because the whole Internet's been like, you, Kyle, for the last, you know, few weeks, especially the last two weeks. So, yeah, Kyle's like. I was like, thanks, Amanda.
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Yes, I kind. Yeah. And including in about 30 seconds, when we actually start to recap the show, we will now resume our previously scheduled Kyle bashing. But he's pretty unflappable. I think that Kyle just goes forward. I mean, we've said so much about him, and then when we see him in person, he's like, hey, guys. You know, like, okay, cool. You know, So I think he's just gonna be like, wow, that's unfathomable. Yeah, he's unfathomable. I think he's gonna be like, bro, that was like, not. That was like, not cool. But I'm not gonna get mad at you. I'm just gonna drink a little bit more. Okay. Yeah.
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But it's this whole episode, he's like, oh, wise, everybody's no mad at me. Nobody. Nobody thinks about how shitty Amanda is. And it's like, well, your gift. You know, if anybody's good at manifestation right now, it's Kyle. Kyle is when the manifestation game. Yeah, he's a manifested this manda vest.
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Okay, let's get into it. Summerhouse Season 10 Episode 9 Wrinkles and Ros and we're still in the middle of this Golden Girls kind of party where everyone's dressed like Miss Doubtfire to certain degrees. And Jesse is like, hey, Grandpa's gotta give everybody their medicine. He's, like, pouring people booze into their mouths. And Lindsay's on a scooter and she's going around and they're just all doing. They're all being wacky and just sort of. We're hearing just, like, fragments of funny things that they're saying. You know, Mia's like, can I take a little shot or something? Well, what about my insulin? So it's like, fun times.
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It's like wacky old people, you know, jokes. And so KJ jumps in the pool, and Dara's like, oh, my God, I can't. No, Literally, look at me. Like, he looks insane. Like, look at him. Like, look at his stupid face. That was just me. Like, bowling out of love. Love it. Bully, Dara. Drown, K.J. drown. Just kidding.
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I'm just kidding.
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Love you, honey.
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I'm bullying. I'm. I'm gonna cook you something later. So Carl and Kyle sit down, and again, I, I, I just am really amused that, like, Kyle had to apply all this stuff to make himself look like an old man. Like, he has hair coming out of his ears. He has a gut. They put gray all over the place. Big, bushy eyebrows, like a mustache. They. They had to do everything to make him look older. And Carl just had to put some baby powder in his hair. I was like, wow.
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Wear some sunglasses. People are like, yep, that's it. Roll it.
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The new cast of Cocoon is here.
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I'm also happy for Carl in all of this because, you know, Carl's had an extremely boring half a decade on the show, and God bless his heart. And he finally has a meme that's gone viral this year, which is him in the office, I think, when Kyle is talking about his money problems, and Carl's just, like, giving this face. Like, his face is scrunched up, like he's confused. And confused Carl has taken over. I see it on every Summer House thread. They start with that. It's become the new Nene. You know how Nene painting the doll gif is? Yeah. So that's the Carl version. And Carl got to post that this week. That was his response to all of this, was the confused, confused old man Carl. So I was fragrant. I was like, you know what? He's. He's bored the hell out of us. But, God, he at least got a meme out of it. Good for you, Carl.
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He's been on a journey, this Carl, this Carl Radke guy. So Carl's like, whoa. So if you went all the way back, that would be amazing. Your. Your legs aren't even touching. Oh, look at you. Look at that. Whoa. Whoa, guys. Like, yeah, you like my legs a little bit. Like, yeah. Okay, well, so can we, like, have serious, like, bro to bro, man to man talk? He's like, yeah, man. I feel like my heart's going to, like, pop off my body because, you know what I mean? I feel like the last eight months, you know, I've been, like, a little preoccupied trying to keep it together. You know what I'm saying?
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He's so funny because he's like, yeah, yeah, having a good time. Party, party. Let's talk serious. Okay. My head's popping. I feel like I'm gonna die, man. Like, he goes immediately into staring at the wall mode, you know? He's like, I can't even move, man. Well, you know, like, last night, like, I think I've been in my own little world due to. Oh, soft bar. TM Y. Wanted to clear the air, y'. All, you know, it's, like, hard to concentrate. All I hear is thoughts and espresso machine. So anyway, you know, like, the investment. I just wanted to warn you. The investment thing has come up among folks. You know, new Carl says things like folks. So I was just a little sad about it, to be honest, because, like, I remember back when you were getting lover boy going, and, like, obviously I believed in it. I want to support you. And I know it wasn't a ton of money back then, but, you know, with inflation, like, that would have been, like, $30,000 now, so.
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Yeah, but you, like, you've given me, like, so many opportunities professionally. I'm just like, you've been so supportive. So, like, having you involved in some ways, it's like. It's like, oh, it's important to me, you know? And, like, I'd love to have you come by a soft bar, and I'd make you one of our specialties, which is a virgin vodka water. So just let me know if you want to come by. Look, I was like, at the very
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least, I'd like to see you walking around in a $10,000 investment soft bar hat. That. That would be great. Do you remember? It's like, investor gifts were listed on the Internet. It was like, $10,000. You get a cap, $20,000. Did you get a cap and a pencil? This is soft bar.
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Steve Sanders would do it. I mean, he bought that bowl for $5,000 on marriage med. So Kyle is like, they need to
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try to not pay for a latte. He'd be like, how dare you try to charge me for a latte.
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Whacking. That's not how it works. You get a free. You get a free latte. You get a free latte. It's not how it works. I'm obsessed with Steve.
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I am targeted. I am specifically targeted.
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I could just watch someone please make a meme of Steve wagging his figure. This is my favorite thing. So I was like, well, look, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. You bet on me. I want to bet on you, but my wallet's way too deep in love for boy. Way too deep. I was like, whoa. Is the business actually in trouble? Folding? Are you saying that your non brick and mortar is going to fold before my brick and mortar? Lindsay, did you hear that?
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Yeah. Last month alone before I lo payment, we lost 175 grand. And our loan payment is 50 grand every month. Whoa. Whoa. So if you don't find another partner in the next few months, is that it?
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Is that it for love or what? Thank you. Hallmark Christmas movie premise line coming in like this is how every Hallmark movie starts. If we don't find a partner in the next few months, we're going to lose the business. What are we going to do? I don't know, but I'm gonna go home to my. To my childhood home to tend to the hotel that's been in our family for generations and see if we can fix it.
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I'm gonna put on a DJ show. My daddy's hotel. That'll bring him in against all comes in.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And that is kind of what he's been doing. He's like, business is feeling. Let's put on a show. You know, it's got the DJ thing going on. Yeah. White boy Christmas.
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A very white Christmas. The whitest Christmas, starring Kyle Cook. I'm dreaming of a lover boy Christmas. Snow. Now that that song snow has a very different meaning with the Summerhouse cast. Snow, snow, snow, snow.
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Yeah, lever boy goes bankrupt and he's like, oh, my God. 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, 24 months, 30 months. I'm just gonna go in.
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Carl, stop counting sixes too much. Carl, we get it. You understand your sixes. Oh, I had to do a lot of math. You know, when you're running a marathon, you count everything about 6, 6 minutes, 12 minutes, 14.
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That was soft math.
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That was soft.
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That was without a calculator. It was soft math. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm gonna try and have fun. Like, you know, it's like I have three months to live. I'm an old man. I feel. That's how I feel, Carl. Whoa. I don't. I don't think I realize, like, I mean, I know obviously it's been a roller coaster, but. Oh, is it as bad as brick and mortar, bro?
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It's like the most stressful things you can imagine. I don't think Amanda even understands or appreciates the current state of affairs. God. Yeah, but like, in worst case scenario, if lover boy weren't to make it, like, you still have each other, right? He's like, I don't know. Cool.
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So good talk. Not good talk.
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Okay. Not going to get that $10,000. You know, Carl's probably thinking, look, your business is going to fold anyway, so just give me $10,000. You putting $10,000 into this sinking ship isn't going to help anything, but it's going to help me a lot. So can I get $10,000, please? And in fact, he should just say that, like, look, bro, the lover boy dream is dead, okay?
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Lover boy is dead. Believe in soft bar. I still don't think that he owes Carl any of that. I think he gave Carl so much money to work at that job when Carl was clearly not doing his job and earning it that I think. I think Kyle's actually being somewhat nice here by not pointing any of that out.
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I actually agree. I think this is what we said last week, which is that, like, if Kyle were a mensch, he would do it. Like, he doesn't ha. He's not obligated to do it. And he. If you. If he did it, it would be a very lovely thing to do. But he has helped Carl so much and. And I don't know. Although. Has he? Because, you know when Kyle's like, I'm on your board of advisors for your brand, by the way, mine's about to tank and go belly up. So.
C
Yeah, not all help is good help. It's like I helped you put out the fire at your house. Dude, you weren't throwing gasoline on it. Well, still, it was wet. I thought it. Thought it was helping, so I tried. So KJ is now talking to Dara, and some guy is talking to Sierra, and he's like, oh, my God, your boobs are so exposed because she's wearing the big old lady bouncy booby rack. And he's like, can I touch him? And so meanwhile, Jesse and Lindsay go to talk and she's like, I'm. I'm looking for a sugar daddy. Like, that's amazingly what I'm here for. Like, just had a baby, now I'm looking for a sugar daddy.
B
And he's like, all right, I told you I'd find you an old timer. And we have a flashback to them talking about that. And Jesse's like, hey, by the way, that guy over there, he looks like he could have a bit of money. He's awkward, strange, no one's talking to him. Which means he's probably someone who's really nerdy and made a lot of money with a startup. Let's go talk to him.
C
They just picked the nerdiest guy they can. They're like, let's go for it. He's like, oh, my. Nice shoes. Good watch. He looks like I'd break him in half. Let's do this. So they go up to him and we see some flashbacks of her terrible relationships. And she's like, may as well get some money out of it. So she goes up to him and he's like, hey. Hey, brother. I'm Jeffy. Wanna talk to a hot lady? Okay. Brandon. Good to meet you. This is Lindsay. She's like, I'm Dorian. Nice to meet you.
B
Are you rich? Because I just got myself an enormous apartment that I probably can't afford and I need some fund it, please.
C
He's like, do I look rich? Yeah, you look rich. Well, great. That's the goal. Do you go to Vegas? I want a guy who goes to Vegas.
B
It's like, no, I don't do you? She's like, I love this lot, honey. She's like, are we role playing? Are you asking me seriously?
C
It's like, are we role playing? Am I supposed to be getting a boner right now? And it's like, well, you dress nice, and you have nice shoes and a nice watch. Thank you. Yeah, who invited you? He's like, oh, I'm good friends with Carl. Oh, well, you should have led with that, sweetheart. Jesus.
B
It's like, never mind. So Amanda's walking so bad for the
C
guy because at some point, Lindsay. It cuts to Lindsay, and she's like, well, I don't need a hot guy. It's like, geez, this poor guy catching strays. He's just trying to come to a party.
B
Yeah, there. She just has made that pivot where she's like, yeah, I got the baby. I took care of that part. I just need someone to fund the lifestyle. KJ is talking to west, and Dara and Cage is like, wes, man, I can't believe you did the splits, bro. The vibes were off without one, bro. The splits, man. Wow. And Dara's like, yeah, I'm worried one day you're just gonna do the splits and you're just gonna stay down. West is like, oh, well, I do think that, like, after four weddings last summer and I do them drunk and I was just, like, ripping it, and I just. Just think I have a stress fracture in my right femur. Like, I'm cute and adorable. Was today fun so far? She's like, yeah, it's been fun. Except for KJ jumping in the pool and almost drowning. Wish he did. You just got bullied. I love you.
C
Yeah, everyone's been great. The only negative feedback I have at this point involves people who are not currently here. So we'll address that when they're here. Her name rhymes with Flaily. Okay, so she's. She's pissed off about Bailey because Daily said, you know, that she was in bed's bedroom. Like, she went in her costume and she came out in a different outfit. God, I wish I could flirt.
B
So then Lindsay is like, well, according to Bailey there, I went into Ben's room for, like, an hour, and there is now, like, priority number two in the city. Coming soon to Bravo. I'm gonna sit down and have a conversation with Bailey so that she understands that you can't just make up random facts that are not actually true at all, which would not make it a fact. But that's fine.
C
Just.
B
But besides. Besides that, you know, you know, if. If I could always be in an older woman outfit just twerking my ass off, I think that's how I would choose to go out.
C
Huh?
B
Old people just got bullied by Dara, the bully meister.
C
So then Carl is in his room texting, and he's like, oh, hey, I. Oh, God.
B
How do I say this? Oh, hold on.
C
You can do this, Carl.
B
You can do this. Okay.
C
I wish you were here this weekend. I did it.
B
I did it.
C
It was hard, but I'm getting back out there.
B
Yeah, I feel, like, a little. Just kind of weird. Maybe it's because I'm walking around in my underwear in this party, but the conversation with Kyle, I don't feel like anything really got accomplished. He was just, like, itching, like, what was me? And it's just like a thing that Kyle does, unlike me, who just sort of, to some people, quietly and then mopes around and then waits for someone to ask if something was wrong, you know, and if it's how he controls those conversations. So got a venta Bailey?
C
Some. Bailey texts him back. It's like, me too. Don't have too much fun without me. Smiling face. P. S. The smiling face was flirting. Did you get it? Was that good? Was I flirting? It's my story.
B
You know me, Carl. Having too much fun without someone. Radky. Kind of wish Bailey was here. And my mom, maybe she would distract me from this. I just need a friend. Someone who's cute, something.
C
I wish Bailey was here dressed like my mom. Is that weird?
B
And I could be like, hey, mom, meet my other mom. Sharon. Meet Sharon. So speed of which now, by the way, this is a great sign for Bailey because normally when someone does not get to come out to the summer house because they are quote unquote, taking care of stuff in the city this weekend, we don't see them at all. They're just like. They just don't exist. But Bailey gets the rare scene in the city while everyone is at the summer house thing over the weekend. And I was very proud of her for this.
C
They're committed. They're committed to Bailey. So she calls her mom. And her mom's in the country. And Bailey's like, what country? She goes, goes, our country. Are you pretending to be, like, outdoorsy for this man or something? She's like, yes, something like that. I am. I'm pretending to be outdoorsy. Okay. It's great. How are you, honey?
B
Well, it's very. It's very like, you know, when Aiden takes care of the country I, I'm about to feel it. Like film some it girl interviews, you know. She's like, well, you seem so busy. How's the share house? Because, well, it's really good. And I'm just like trying to date again, which is weird. And I'm like, trying to flirt, you know? So, like, the other day I went up and found a volleyball and I licked it and I said, was that hot for anyone? And no one responded.
C
Oh, honey, you're still going with that flirting storyline? Yes, mom, I'm trying to flirt, okay? I called you from the bench in New York City to tell you I'm trying to flirt. Okay? So then we see a flashback to Carl being like, are we flirting now? She's like, are we? I think we're flirting. I think so. I think we're doing pretty good.
B
Oh, good God. Good guy Claus from Florida Hall. So then Sarah's like, is anybody cute? Anyone you like? She was like, yeah, there's Carl. He's sweet. He's 6 5, huge guy, like a teddy bear. Also just as furry. Just like the sweetest, nicest man in the world. But I'm also like, I haven't had a boyfriend since I was in the worst relationship I've ever been in. And it's, I'm just a lot more fearful than I thought I was gonna be. Well, I got some really good advice not too long ago from someone that I really admire. You. Me? Yeah. And that is if you're the same person in that relationship, then you'll have the same relationship. So it may not be like that. You don't have to be, you know, you don't have game. But maybe it's just that you're not so enamored with the red flags anymore.
C
Okay, well, thanks. I needed this talk. That was great advice. Okay. Wow. I hope you have a great time. I, I, you look great today. What was that? Flirting. Honey, it was flirting. It was flirting. Finally.
B
Finally.
C
So then we go back to the birthday and Ben checks in with Kyle and the guys are all hugging. He's like, happy birthday, mate. You all right? 43. 43. All right. Yeah, it's been a rough couple of weeks. I don't want to talk about it. I want to talk about it.
B
It's like, well, has someone got an erection? Rot now. And I guess maybe that was a call back to when when he got a boner during their game that they played. Now Jesse's friend Maggie arrives and, hey, Maggie, how you doing? How's it going, Maggie? She's like, hi, I'm Maggie. And then they go inside and he's like, giving her a tour. And he's like, yeah, this is a hallway and this is a bedroom, and here's my bathroom and we can make out. He's like, you know, I was trying to date different types, a different type of girl. I date these very sweet, bubbly corporate girlies. But Maggie's so nice and we have good conversations, so. So I'm trying not to judge too quickly. I'm like, yes, I'm so glad you changed up the type of girl you normally go after, which is a tiny little blonde girl. Good to see some variety.
C
Tiny little girl in her early 20s. Yep. You're really. You're really stretching there, Jesse. Yeah, I'm really going for something different. Just Lexi, but without the mom and sister, you know. So then Carl sees them and he's like, oh, you guys are like, cute. That's all I've got to say. And Lindsay side is like, I'm, excuse me, I'm looking for a sugar daddy. Someone's like, this guy's got old money. He's like, do you have a yacht? And he goes, no. His friend's like, he's got a real boat.
B
It's like, I have a kayak. She goes, oh, I don't know if
C
that's going to get it.
B
And then we get to traditional Kyle and Ben. Well, Kyle peeing at on the side of the party. And this time Ben is next to him. And K's like, I mean, I've seen some dicks, but you call that a dick? He's like, oh, I'm working on it. It like, why you've got, like, that entire lawn. Why are you guys being directly adjacent to each other?
C
That's what you do when you're a guy. You go and you pee right next to each other. And you look at each other's wiener. Whether you're gay or not, you're just. It's important. It explains a lot about a man's personal or his psychology. You know, the wiener affects the man's brain. You know, a man's wiener, you know, his. You know, his personality.
B
So then Sierra and Mia are sitting outside and talking about NCR is like, God, Amanda's the best old person. I mean, like, oh, my God, Hub. So they're like, watching her, like, shuffle around and whatever. And Mia's like, Mia's like saying, you know, Amanda was upset earlier. She was feeling like everyone was talking about her. So then Lindsay sits down.
C
She's like, oh, hello, gossip session. How your titties feelings here?
B
She's like, yeah, they're heavy. She's like, so what are we gossiping about? She's like, well, we're talking about Kyle and Amanda, and Ben was saying to me that he's on the line for a lot right now. Like, the. The lover boy of it all. She's like, what's going on with the lover? It's like, so when we see that Kyle's on the line for, like, millions of dollars.
C
Yes. And so Sierra tells her that. She's like, it's like $3 million. And like, I don't care. Like, I don't care how much you're on the line for. You still don't need to talk to your wife that way, and that's unacceptable, period. Well, do you think that the state of lover boy finances will affect Amanda? And she's like, yeah, they don't have a prenup up. I'm like, oh, right, right. You just see on Lindsay's face, because Lindsay was like, get a prenup. Get a prenup, stupid. So Sierra's like, well, if he's on the line, then he should be on the line. And she's like, oh, my God, this is worse than I ever thought.
B
Totally gonna go mess around with him. So then Lindsay's going back to her. Her sugar daddy thing, which is getting pretty old pretty quickly. And then Ben goes up to a table. He's like, hey, does anyone want some word as originals, I got them by the heaps. Thank you. That was a model making a joke. It's so nice to always get that applause. Thank you.
C
So now they're meeting a girl named Hannah. And Wes is like, this is Ben. He's Australian. He talks funny. He's like, hello. She bring it in. Sexy. It's like, I'm meeting amazing people, but I'm definitely distracted. Or I keep thinking about the last person I dated that I never really broke up with just to be on the show and pretending to be single, even though I've been dating this girl the whole time. So we see clips of this girl, and he's sticking with his story that she just loved him too fast and he couldn't take it, so he backed away. He's copying the exact same story from as Andrea. Andrea. The exact same thing. We're not buying models, sir.
B
Foreign model loves someone from afar. The other thing is that they. They as an example of their love. We see this picture of them. He's shirtless. They're in bed and they're making out, and I'm like, who took that photo?
C
Him.
B
I was like, you. So you guys were making eyes. Like, wait a second. We have to take a photo of this. So he clearly stuck his hand up, man. Took a picture of them making out of bed. This is no one. I just. I can't stand that. I can't stand it because the picture is supposed to imply, like, oh, you just caught us. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. That was my phone. I thought it was on my brain.
C
It's a terrorism unit.
B
It was.
C
Yeah.
B
I do have to see to you.
C
You've got one hour. The terrorists are coming.
B
It really. It literally is the. The ringtone from 24. It's Chloe calling perimeter Jack. I am gonna set a perimeter. The point is that I just think it's so. It's so affected when people do that, you know? Oh, my God.
C
It's like the performative, like, look, we're so in love. I'm taking a picture of us. Also, I could tell that he took it because she looks terrible in it. And he, of course, looks horrible hot. You know, she's like. Hers is the one that's, like, Neck is twisted all weird, and, like, she looks horrible, and she's a gorgeous lady. So anyway, I don't believe a thing Ben says, and I'm not into his whole standing up for Kyle and giving Kyle excuses. So Ben's kind of dead to me already.
B
Yeah. He has actually, like, rubbed me the wrong way. I think that, you know, I think that the veil has dropped. You know, his like, oh, my God, I'm just a nice guy. I don't know what to. It's like, okay, you had a girlfriend all this time. Time. Turns out you're actually kind of a dick. And we see that next week, he once again berates someone. Actually this time Amanda, about. About a joke. And, yeah, I think that he just is.
C
He has a mean, charismatic person.
B
He does have. Really.
C
He has mean eyes. I think so, yeah. There's something cold in his eyes. I don't like it. So then Hannah tells him, oh, my God, you got lipstick on your teeth. Is that just, like an Australian thing? He's like, oh, I know. So then Maggie and Jesse are talking. Maggie, he's the new Lexi. And it's like, did you want to know something crazy? There's, like, a bug in my drink, and I'm still drinking it.
B
That's crazy. So then he's like, by the way, there's a restroom in here. Unless you want to see my room.
C
Yeah.
B
So they go, it's good that you
C
don't mind bugs when you're dating the summer house gas. You're going to need that attitude, Maggie. Keep it up. Up.
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That's right.
C
So they go make out in the bathroom or something. And then they're saying things like, kidsies. So then we go to Sierra, and she sees Jesse and Maggie walk by, and Jesse's like, this is it. This is my bed. That's west bed. You can look at the party while you pee. Let's go kissy, kitsy.
B
Oh, kissy, kissy.
C
And she's like, oh, God. So we. They come out of the bathroom, and she's like, oh, my God, grandma. You're looking better and better.
B
Yeah, yeah. Says more party stuff. And then eventually, west pulls Kyle for a conversation near the DJ booth. And west is like, do you remember last night at all in any capacity? And west, who made a whole thing last week about, like, I hate confrontation when it comes to doing, like, what's right with, like, a friend. I, like, we'll totally do it. And now he's sitting here, and he's like, can't even look Kyle in the eye. He's just, like, looking at a spot on the floor. And so.
C
And Kyle does his immediate depression thing where he's like, yeah, yeah, sure. I'll tell you what's up, bro. Yeah, I'm really depressed. You know, I'm just trying to compartmentalize, if I can be honest. I don't know what triggered me because there was so much that's built up. Then he hangs his head.
B
He's like, mom just said, if Kyle is. Kyle's compartmentalized. One of those compartments has some old tuna in it because, like, that lid comes off. It's like, oh, God, here we go again. So Wes is like, well, I know there's, like, lots of layers and depths to your relationship, but this was, like, the only time where I thought, like, objectively, like, you were being unnecessary because, like, nothing happened. And, like, that was just, like, black and white, like, not the right thing. And. But, like, you. Like, that cannot be, like, the correct way for you to get off your chest. And, like, that was bad. Like, please don't be mad at me. Don't be mad at me, please. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Scary.
C
So then in another part of the party, Sierra and Mia are talking to Amanda, and she's like, is anyone seeing Kyle? And they're like, I don't know. And Sierra says, Has he apologized to you or not? She goes, well, I don't even know if he remembers what he did. But no.
B
Back in the DJ booth. Well, I'm sorry that you guys had to be subjected to that. And if I can be honest, I'm basically falling apart. It's like, no. Well, tell her that though. For starters, say. Say, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. I should not have talked to you guys. Talk to you like that. 100. I feel bad. Good. I just. I got a little selfish when she has fun with everybody else other and me, and I'm like, I'm a dj.
C
There's the excuse. Couldn't just be like, yep, I'll apologize. It's no, because she has fun with everybody but me. And Wes is like, no, no, I hear you. Look, I. I know you're frustrated, but like, we've got your back. Like, we're your friends, you know, bro. He's like, yeah, you guys have no idea.
B
Yeah, no idea.
C
Hold on, I'm getting my head.
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Literally. So Lindsay's like, does Amanda know about the other stuff that you found out today? And Sierra was like, oh. And I was like, oh my God, you're making me nervous. And so me is like, well, you need to say it. It's like, well, I was having a conversation earlier and I guess he told Wes that Lover by only had like 3. 3 months of payroll left. And then he told Ben that he's personally responsible for $2.1 million. And Lindsay's like, cuz I know you guys never signed a prenup like I recommended, right? Right.
C
No. And so I don't know how that affects you. You're. And she's like, when Kyle took out the small business loan, like it was a conversation he had with me like after. And like he's an entrepreneur, so like, I don't question his business. Like, why would I? I don't know anything. I'm just a graphic designer. I'm an artist. Okay, don't act like you have not been told this a million times. We saw on camera your own family was like, do not marry this man without a prenup. What are you nuts?
B
It was Bose giving her a lecture. Don't marry him.
C
You're not being authentic. Nobody understands what your business is. What is this lover boy logo that you stole off the Internet? Come on.
B
How could you say that? Both. I said nothing. What are you talking about? So Amanda is like, I just don't have the answers. I feel like I'm just kind of, you know, going to the motions. He's like, yeah, just in limbo. So she says they have separate bank accounts. They just sort of never really merged together. And, like, what's happening right now just isn't good. And Sierra's like, you know, but at the same time, it's not related to how he's treating Amanda. And, like, the use and lashing out, that's unacceptable, and it's inexcusable. And they basically, like, rally around her like, you know what? Like, you shouldn't do this. Like, stop letting him say do that to you. You don't deserve it. You don't deserve someone being like, call called you saying, you know, and it's just, like, watching this is painful because you just see the way, you know, Sierra and Mia, too, but primarily, Sierra is being such a good girlfriend to Amanda, and just knowing where this is all gonna actually lead to is so disappointing.
C
Yeah. And then we go back to the guys, and Wes is like, just talk to us and we'll talk to you. I mean, don't take it out on Amanda. Like, just say sorry for that, please. Okay. Say you're sorry. And, you know, he's like, this does not kill the party, okay? He goes, just say you're sorry and go to bed. And, like, don't try and justify stuff to her, man. Okay. I, like, you know, like, offer her my penis. Just say, amanda, I'm sorry. West has a penis, too, if you'd like to, I don't know, do something with that.
B
I know. I like when. When they're like, look, man, just, like, just say sorry for it.
C
You go.
B
Goes, I'm sorry. Like, no, not to us.
C
Yeah. He's like, I passed. I did it.
B
I did it.
C
Why isn't Amanda being nice to me? I said sorry. Also, I'd like to point out that the whole storyline this season was west is upset with Jesse flirting with Sierra because that breaks boycode. This guy is such a loser. I can't even take him with his little baby. It's like, look at me. I'm just standing up for women. No, you're not. You're standing up for a woman on tv, so you get more. More free in a bar. And I don't even want to hear anything else from you. I don't believe it. I won't believe anything else.
B
Right. And the way he handled that whole.
C
That is a gross way to put it, but it's a gross situation.
B
Yeah. And the way he handled that whole Jesse situation was so, like, so passive and Weasel, not weasely. It was just sort of like. It was. What's the right word for it?
C
It.
B
It just. He didn't really stand manipulative. He just was like, well, people are saying it's not nice that you said that. And then he tells Lindsay he said this. You want me to do this for you?
C
Yeah. He went. Manipulated everybody else to do it for him so that he didn't have to do it and he could just look like a poor little victim on the side.
B
Yeah, it was. It was just like, if you're gonna, like, have an issue, just stand in it. Right.
C
It just makes it a sense that the guys on this show, they sign up for this show and they get an instant ass pass, you know, it's like they get this little card and they get holes punched wherever they go. It makes me crazy.
B
I know. They literally get holes punched.
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Air Date: April 1, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
In this episode, Ben and Ronnie break down the latest explosive drama surrounding the Summer House cast, focusing on Season 10, Episode 9, “Wrinkles and Rosé.” The central theme is dominated by real-life scandal involving cast members Amanda and West, their relationship bombshell, and the fallout among friends and the wider Bravo multiverse. Alongside hilarious sidebars and signature shade, the hosts dive deep into the week’s headlines, social media gossip, cast betrayals, and the ways reality TV narratives clash with reality. The recap features razor-sharp commentary, meme-worthy digs at the cast, and insights into the show's ongoing saga.
Ben and Ronnie deliver an episode both hilarious and scathing, tearing apart Bravo’s latest scandal with Summer House’s increasingly meta narratives—where cast, fan, and Internet reactions blend together in real time. Their recap, full of side banter and play-by-play reading between the lines, is especially rich for listeners who want to know not just what happened on TV, but what’s happening because of the show. If you want gossip, memes, and Bravo fan culture at its sharpest, this episode is must-listen.
For the resolution and more Summer House drama, tune in to Part Two of their recap!