#3293 Southern Hospitality S4E05: Lake Me To The River

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3293: Southern Hospitality S4E05—"Lake Me To The River"

Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode Theme:
A hilarious and incisive breakdown of Southern Hospitality S4E05, with Ben and Ronnie dissecting all the drama, inter-friend feuds, tubing adventures, and very real feelings about brain-eating amoebas. The spotlight shines on Lake’s emotional journey as friendships unravel, all set against the backdrop of a Southern river trip.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on the Southern Hospitality cast’s trip to the river—meant to be a bonding getaway but quickly becomes a swirl of murky feelings, tense friendships (especially around Lake, Michaels, and Brad), and absurd group antics. Ben and Ronnie, with their signature blend of mockery and affection, dig into issues of trust, microaggressions, and the classic Bravo trip meltdown formula, all while keeping things playfully shady.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: River Getaway

• Frequent Group Trips:
  • Ben notes, “It’s only been like a heartbeat since these kids got back from their last regional trip, and now they’re off on another little weekend Airbnb experience." (03:18)
  • Ronnie, sarcastic: “Yeah, they’re always going to a river or a gray cloud, gray beach.” (03:57)
• Michaels’ Moodiness:
  • Ronnie: “I don’t like this Michaels. I’m not loving it. … you’re gonna come for Lake? I love Lake." (04:23–04:41)
• Lake Feeling Isolated:
  • Ben empathizes: “No one’s checking in on her. She doesn’t have the gaze to support her look. She’s sitting on Adirondack chairs alone. … my heart broke for her." (04:46)

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2. Emo Party Planning & Emo Culture

• Joe’s 30th Birthday:
  • Planning an emo-themed party, invoking the mid-2000’s emo music nostalgia.
  • Ben jokes: “Emo music—it’s a movement, it’s a culture. It’s very angsty. Just like me.” (05:41)
• Ronnie on Emo Lyrics:
  • “Every emo guy song is really singing about love and not giving them a business." (05:55)
• Deadpan Humor:
  • Ben: “Biggest, coolest party for a music genre that, like, no one cares about anymore.” (06:22)

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3. Mia’s Relationship Woes & Parental Wisdom

• Lost Luggage Saga:
  • Mia recounting how her ex packed her belongings and shipped them, which were then stolen.
  • Ronnie: “Now some crackhead is just like, it’s on his moped now." (08:04)
  • Ben: “You gotta have a ring cam everything today in this day and age.” (08:49)
• Deep Thoughts on Strength & Battles:
  • Mia’s dad: “God doesn’t give battles to the weak, only to his warriors. … You are resilient.”
  • Ronnie’s take: “Don’t fool yourself. God gives battles to everyone.” (12:18)

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4. PowerPoints, Friendship Collages, & Embarrassment

• Maddie’s Secret PowerPoint:
  • Both hosts find hilarity in Maddie’s “friendship PowerPoint” for TJ, which she won’t actually show him.
  • Ben: “I don’t want him to ever see the fact that I made a beautiful collage of our friendship when I was mad at him.” (15:17)

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5. Bravo House Rules & Airbnb Bans

• Maddie’s Past Antics:
  • The hosts lose it over Maddie being banned from Airbnb: “I had friends all standing on the countertop and it broke… someone so drunk, they peed on the mattress.” (17:11)
  • Ronnie: “You’re the reason Palm Springs has noise ordinances!” (18:08)

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6. Workplace Tension & Brad vs. Emmy

• Brad Icing Out Emmy:
  • Ben: “You can’t be friends with someone that’s like that.” (19:08)
  • Emmy’s confusion over the ongoing cold shoulder and lack of closure.
  • Recurring joke: “If I hear the word Folly one more time on this show….” (20:08)

7. Alligator, Amoeba, and Snake Paranoia

• Tubing Trip Fears:
  • Long tangent about waterborne dangers.
  • Ben (relatable): “Every five years there’s a story … a girl goes canoeing in the south and loses her arm… like, water in the South. I just don’t f**k with it.” (20:47)
  • Ronnie: “Look, read the news. The news is about humans being awful… I choose the snakes.” (22:13)
• Movie Detours:
  • Random sidebar about “Mud” and southern gothic movies.
• Justin’s Plan:
  • Jokes about using the “brain-eating amoeba” as an excuse for wild behavior: (23:10)

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8. Gossip, Microaggressions, & Lake’s Isolation

• Who Said What to Whom?
  • Long analysis of Michaels freezing out Lake for telling confidences (particularly about Brad’s feelings and the microaggression conversation).
  • Ben explains the logic tangle: “Michaels is mad she made him look like a gossip, but he’s gossiping about not being a gossip…” (29:44, 30:55)
• Consequences Outweighing Crime:
  • Ronnie: “I just don’t think the punishment fits… Is it this bad that you need to be completely ostracized?” (30:15)
  • Ben: “It’s really mean. … She winds up being made to feel like a piece of sh*t at this group trip.” (31:16)
• Cycle of Gossip:
  • Ronnie: “Hasn’t everybody been talking about this? … It’s been a plot line…” (27:36)

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9. Dating Struggles: Thirst Traps & Age Insecurities

• Michaels & TJ’s Mani-Pedi Date:
  • Discussion on dating apps and Michaels’ “wiener brand” thirst traps.
  • Ben: “He’s also, like, tall and gorgeous… it’s not because I post naked.” (32:11)
• Body Image & Age Pressures:
  • Michaels: “I remember being 29… at 34, approaching 35, it’s getting a little scary.” (34:04)
  • TJ: “We made out… I wouldn’t make out with you if you were ugly.” (34:30)

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10. River House Arrival, Room Jockeying, & More Group Dynamics

• Joe’s “Emojo” Hair Reveal:
  • “It’s what my hair looks like with nothing in it, you guys. Emojo.” (37:20)
• Sleeping Arrangements:
  • Michaels avoids Lake, chooses to bunk with TJ.
  • Joe disappointed he and Maddie won’t have their own room: “I thought this was gonna be, like, a romantic trip…” (44:06)
• Lake’s Unrequited Cry for Attention:
  • Ben describes Lake in her river look, seeking Michaels to take her picture, but he rebuffs her: “Can you take some pictures of me? WHAT? … He just turns around and goes back.” (47:52)
  • “She’s just, like, sad and rumpled in it. I felt so bad for her…” (48:12)

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11. TikTok Tag Games & Generational Differences

• Hosts’ Generational Shade:
  • Ben and Ronnie incredulous at the group’s amazement with “chase tag”:
    • Ronnie: “So you guys reinvented tag. On TikTok.” (49:03)
    • Ben: “A generation who didn’t get to go outside when they were kids…” (49:07)

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12. Tubing Dangers, Group Floating & Waterborne Fears

• Blunt Staff Reassurances:
  • “You don’t get brain-eating amoeba here, okay, because rivers move… just don’t come out from the middle.” (51:23–52:04)
  • Ben: “If I know an alligator can come and especially grab me by the butt?... No thanks.” (52:04)
• Ronnie on Tubing:
  • “I am not risking getting killed by an alligator just to go tubing.” (53:04)

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13. Countess Luann Hookup Discourse

• Molly’s Oldest Hookup:
  • “64 for me.” (53:46)
• Joe & The Countess:
  • Ben: “She kisses and sings: Three, two, one, I, Joe Bradley, he f***ed me too.” (54:47)

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14. Group Time: Cornhole, Volleyball, Failed Romances

• Cornhole Therapy:
  • Joe: “You know what heals? Cornhole.” (57:25)
• Mia & Justin Prospects:
  • Ronne not impressed: “Justin’s a definite downgrade… you can’t bring Troy on the show and then go to Justin.” (58:07)
• Volleyball Sucks:
  • Emmy: “There’s something about volleyball, it just, like, pisses me off.” (58:46)

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15. Lake’s Emotional Breaking Point, Parental Realness

• Lake’s Isolation Intensifies:
  • Ben: “He is fully… ignoring her.” Lake’s texts and requests go unanswered; no one consoles her. (44:46, 59:18)
• Gossip Cycle Restated:
  • Ben breaks down Michaels’ logic again: “The conversation did have to do with Lake… it’s not like she’s just randomly participating.” (63:05)
• Lake Calls Her Mom for Comfort:
  • Jerry (her mom): “Honey, you’ve got to keep your mouth shut. … Don’t talk to white people about black people business.” (65:11)
  • Ben: “Mom just reading her for filth.” (65:34)

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16. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lake’s Realness:
  • “I just felt so bad for Lake because she is hurting so badly. … No one cares.” (04:46) – Ben
• On Banning from Airbnb:
  • “You’re the reason Palm Springs has noise ordinances!” (18:08) – Ronnie
• Southern Hostility:
  • “It’s one thing to be like, this is really serious… but he is actually, like, complaining about the fact that Lake went and said something that was told her in confidence, when he had just said he was told something in confidence. … Michael’s!” (29:44) – Ben
• On Bravo’s Conflict Cycle:
  • “To me, this seems like an infraction, but it’s nothing that requires this much… when you’re 22 or 23 this feels like the sane way to deal with it, but when you’re older you realize it’s so stupid.” (61:09) – Ben
• Jerry’s Advice:
  • “Don’t talk to white people about black people business. … You can’t continue to break people’s trust, honey.” (65:11–65:52)

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Timestamps for Significant Segments

• Lake’s Isolation and Group Setup (03:18–04:46)
• Emo Party & Joe’s Birthday Plans (05:14–06:22)
• Mia’s Relationship Loss (07:12–12:18)
• Maddie’s PowerPoint & TJ (14:34–15:37)
• Bravo House Rules / Airbnb Story (17:11–18:08)
• Brad vs. Emmy Cold War (19:08–20:08)
• Tubing Panic—Amoeba & Alligators (20:19–23:29)
• Lake/Michaels/Brad Gossip Triangle (24:50–31:16)
• Dating Apps & Naked Selfies (32:06–34:49)
• River House Arrival & Room Choices (37:20–44:06)
• Lake’s Rebuffed Photo Request (47:27–48:10)
• TikTok Tag Games (48:29–49:24)
• River Tubing & Water Dangers (51:23–53:04)
• Countess Luann Hookup Debate (53:46–55:27)
• Cornhole, Volleyball & Mia’s Love Life (57:25–58:13)
• Lake’s Emotional Call to Mom (64:26–65:52)

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Final Thoughts & Tone

Ben and Ronnie blend their sincere affection for cast members with sharp, playful jabs rooted in Bravo logic, millennial/Gen Z differences, and a keen eye for reality TV hypocrisy. The episode is both funny and lightly poignant, especially around Lake’s plight, Michaels’ rigidness, and Jerry’s candid motherly advice.

Ending Note:
Ben: “It did really break my heart to see Lake so sad. And next week she’s sobbing at the dinner table. … I really enjoy Lake so much.” (65:52)
Ronnie: “Yeah, she sucks. Don’t do that.” (65:52)

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For listeners: You’ll get all the group trip drama, hilarious pop-cultural detours, and a sympathetic, nuanced lens on the young cast’s messiness—plus enough quotables to keep your group chat alive till the next episode drops.

Transcript

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Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much what happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today in a tube on some murky brown water in the middle of the south, it's Ronnie Caram. How are you?

[C]

Good. How you doing baby?

[B]

Great, thanks. We're here to talk Southern hospitality. Before we dive into that, I hear something Robot. Is it a robot? Sound on my Is it robots? It is robotic.

[C]

What do you think it is?

[B]

I know my wi fi was on by accident. Cuz I had to airdrop something, so maybe it was not a strong connection. Is it still robot?

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I think it's gone.

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Nope.

[C]

Is it still gone? Nice job.

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Start up. Thanks. Sorry. Okay, from the top.

[C]

Well, hello is such a positive one too. Sorry.

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I'll do it. I could do it again. Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today from a tube in some brackish brown water in the middle of the south, it's Mr. Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie, how are you? Hello, Ben.

[C]

How are you?

[B]

Fabulous. Today we're talking Southern hospitality. But before we do that, of course, you best go over to our Patreon. Patreon.com watch or crappings, where you get access to an ad free feed of this podcast. You get access to a weekly bonus. Our bonus this week was a recap of last week's episode of Survivor. You also get access to Crappies on Demand, where you can watch us, not just listen to us, a week before it goes on to YouTube. And you also just can be part of a great community of Patreon gals. Gals. Girls and boys and non binaries and everyone else. So come join us over there today. Southern hospitality. Gosh, it's been. It's. I feel like it's only been like a heartbeat since these kids got back from their last regional trip, and now they're going off on another little weekend Airbnb experience. Yeah, they're always going to a river or. Or a gray cloud. Ray Beach.

[C]

Yeah. And it's another episode of Michaels being a little. Yeah, Not. I don't like this Michaels. I'm not loving it. Serious, it's your. Listen, you had your first thing with Molly, Okay? It's like, okay, maybe you stressed. Whatever. You cried. Okay, I'm over it. But Lake, you're gonna come for Lake? I love Lake.

[B]

Who doesn't love Lake?

[C]

I mean, I felt. She's 22. Leave her alone.

[B]

I just felt so bad for Lake because she is hurting so badly. Like, her best friend is icing her out. She's hurting, she's sad. And, like, also, no one's checking in on her. Like, hey, what's wrong, Lake? Like, she's the poor girl. She's, like, alone. She's trying to serve a look. And just, like, no one cares. She doesn't have the gaze to support her look. She's sitting on Adirondack chairs alone. I Just felt like my heart really broke for her, you know? Like, that sucks.

[C]

Yeah, I felt. I felt like that, too. So we start with Maddie narrating what's been going on. And then Joe comes to a place called Music Farm. He's like, hi, Charles. Welcome, myself. The Music Farm. This is really cool. He's like, yeah, I'm excited to talk about your party, bro, because. Yeah. So I met these guys in New York, email and I. And they throw a badass show. So I thought for my 30th birthday, I'm doing something big. Emoji.

[B]

Yeah, emo. Emo's so big. They did it on Vanderpump Rules once. And, like, emo music, it's a movement, it's a culture. It's very angsty. Just like me. It's very. I don't want to grow up. So for me, turning 30, this was, like, perfect, you know, like, if you

[C]

really listen to it, like, every emo guy song is really singing about love and not giving them a business.

[B]

Yeah. You know, so much about AVO is about, like, wanted to sleep on the right side of the bed where you have access to a charger. That's emo, man.

[C]

There's so much emo. Like My Chemical Romance. Like, that could be a place that I open for Leva, you know, like Fallout Boy. I fell out because I won't give me a restaurant.

[B]

You know, it's like crazy Dashboard Confessional. It's basically. That's one thing Trevor won't know about because he's on a pedicab. Hey. So I'm thinking, like, 100 guest lists and then, like, 100, like, complons. And it could be, like, a party. Be, like, huge. It's, like, basically going to be a concert. Like, it's going to be a big event. Like, it's going to be the biggest, coolest party for a music genre that, like, no one cares about anymore. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm so pumped. It's going to be amazing. Emo party. So now we go to Mia's, and she's. She's on the phone with her dad, Filippo, and they're talking, you know, catching up and stuff. Because what would this show be if everyone didn't call their parents? This in Southern charm. I don't know if they have, like, meetings where they're like, this is the South. And every cast member is calling their parent at least five times this season. All right, line them up. It's what we do here.

[B]

Do we have any anarchist parents on this cast who Possibly have six estates in France. So her dad's been giving out some scholarship money to some kids. They had an event. She's like, can I have some? He's like, no. She's like, well, you're not going to believe the day I had yesterday. Okay, so I. You know what? You know that Troy and I broke up, right? Despite the fact that the sex was amazing. Okay, honey, keep on going. So Troy calls me on Saturday and goes, hey, Mia just packed up all your stuff and sent it in a. In a U Haul. Or you. Was it U Haul or ups?

[C]

I thought it was a ups. I sent it ups.

[B]

Sent it in ups and. And Poppy, it's like my belongings. It's like my Miss World trophy. It's my YSL bag, my shoes, my jewelry, stuff that friends have given me. And basically somebody stole it in the 20 minutes it was sitting outside. Like, I'd like to know more about.

[C]

I start myself. I stor myself like three months for that trophy, and now some crackhead is just like, it's on his moped. It's basically on his moped now.

[B]

I'm like, just go to Etsy. It's there.

[C]

So they broke up and he packed his stuff, ups and sent it to her. It sounds nice so far, but he did not insure it.

[B]

So was it sitting for 20 minutes outside her door? Is that what it was?

[C]

I think so, yeah.

[B]

Oh. So in my head, the way I heard it was that he put it in a U Haul and then the U Haul got stolen. But UPS makes more sense. Oh, man. So it just. Oh, wow. Yeah, I feel like something like that.

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It's not just.

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You get it insured. You have to make sure you sign for delivery.

[C]

You gotta have a ring cam everything today in this day and age. I just can't believe it. Yeah, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more than it does. But I really. The only reason I use the ring, you know how ring has the social element, where it's like, here's what's going on in your neighborhood. And it's always like, I lost my cat. It's basically that for 20 pages. But I like the ones that are like, someone stole this off my porch. And then you see a ring camera of someone and just going and stealing Amazon boxes off of porches. And they're so dumb too. They go. And they look right at the camera. They're like, oh, was that a ring camera? Is that. Was there a camera in there? Why is that doorbell lighting up? Well, I'm taking This box. Britney. I got my sparkle. I hope they got some sparkle delivered.

[B]

I do love the whole genre of. Of robber pranks where people put like an, like an exploding glitter bomb in their. In their boxes. When people, like steal their Amazon packages, they glitter all over themselves. That's like a nice one. Yeah, it's kind of like that's what I put. There's so little justice in this world that if, like, if a robber gets glitter bombed, I'm okay with it.

[C]

No, no. Hell no. I'm going to put battery acid in that. You're going to steal my bag. You're going to look like Freddy Krueger.

[B]

Dick.

[C]

Enjoy your $10 pants that I got off Amazon. Idiot.

[B]

Put Captain Jason Sandalwood cologne in there. Oh, no. Never.

[C]

Yeah, so the dad's like, well, okay, that wasn't smart not to insure it and. But things are just things, honey. Okay now, of course, except the ysl. I mean, that was expensive, but, you

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know, what are you gonna do?

[C]

So she says that, you know, she's upset with Troy because he never took her long plan term seriously and her long term plan. Sorry. You know, I'm verbally dyslexic. I'm a little dyslexic in writing, but it really comes out verbally. Like the other day I said, even in a clip we posted, I was like, I got back on my hair. No. Like, why do I talk like that? I mix. I shuffle all the words. Anyway, sorry, everybody. Can't help.

[B]

It happens. It happens to me too. Like, you, like, you know, words just come out in the scrambled way. Sometimes we're talking so fast and thinking about. We're talking and thinking and listening to each other and reading notes all at once that sometimes, you know, just get a little scrambled up.

[C]

It happens, guys, what are you gonna do? Well, anyway, she's mad because he didn't move to Charleston and he KN that she wants to live in Charleston, and so he loves Charleston, so why wouldn't he move there for her?

[B]

Maybe he has a whole family on the side and in Charlotte that he didn't want to tell her about. It happens.

[C]

It could happen. And I think also they're both too hot to compromise. You know, I feel like when you're both supermodel looking, like when you're. When both people in the relationship are that hot, one of them's like, but I'm hot. Why aren't you moving for me? And the other one's like, but, but I'm hot. Why aren't you moving for me. And then I think it creates like a hot battle. And you can't fight fire with fire. That's not how it works. Can't fight hot with hot. You have to fight hot with ugly. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. So her dad's like, babe, God doesn't get give battles to the weak, only to his warriors. And you are resilient. You are a superstar, and I'm a phoenix. I rise from the ashes. Okay? He's like, that wasn't the metaphor I was doing, but sure, you can do the phoenix one. I was just trying to mix it up, give you something new.

[C]

I've never really understood that saying, God only gives battles to the weak. Have you ever stood in line at a Walmart? Weak people got plenty. Poor people got plenty of battles. Weak people got plenty of battles. Don't. Don't fool yourself. God gives battles to everyone.

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Everyone gets a battle. You got a battle and you got a battle.

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So now we are going to go see what TJ is up to. He's doing his skin care, and that takes, like, an hour. And then he facetimes mad. He's like, hey, so I was looking for a house for us to stay at the river. She's like, oh, and if you're doing that, then I'll buy the tickets for tubing and all of that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He's like, okay. Yeah. And we're gonna have, like, a blast. Yeah. I'm never gonna, like, show my PowerPoint to TJ, but it did remind me that we've been on multiple vacations and we have fun together. I love Maddie's like, I love her PowerPoint. Her, like, loving PowerPoint that she's, like, embarrassed. Like, he's never gonna see all the visual evidence I've collected of how much as friends.

[C]

I just think it's funny because she's doing so well because her sponsor told her, do not show him the PowerPoint. So she's like, yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna show him the PowerPoint, but I still have the PowerPoint. It still means something. She's, like, really showing restraint by not showing him the PowerPoint. And it just keeps coming up in every episode. Like, well, I'm gonna Show him the PowerPoint. But we're friends.

[B]

We're basically normally. Normally. It's like, well, I don't want them to ever see that awful thing I said about them when I was mad at them. But in her case, it's like, I don't want him to ever see the fact that I made a beautiful collage of our friendship when I was mad at him.

[C]

She's showing her strength because her sponsor was like, do not send him that. So now we see a flashback where TJ was talking to Brad, and Brad's like, I mean, is this, like, a three people thing? Like, who's coming on this trip? Is emmy coming? And TJ's like, well, that is up to Maddie. And so we flash. We flash, Flash back to three days ago. And Maddie's like, did you. Hey, Emmy. Did I tell you that we're going tubing at Edisto? And she's like, oh, my God. We're, like, going on the river is, oh, my God, we're going on the river. You kidding? Me. Oh, my God.

[B]

Is unsafe. That river is unsafe. So Matt is like, yeah, I think it'll be fun. Yeah, it's gonna be, like, really fun. It'll be, like, really, really fun. I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna have a great time. I'm having a great time. I am not the aggressor. Okay, so then TJ is like, by the way, there's no alligators in this water, right? Like, there's definitely gonna be all. I feel like once you were below Pennsylvania, there's alligators in all the water. In my mind, yeah, There's. I'm like, oh, upper Maryland alligator country.

[C]

Ah, Northerners. So TJ Is like, there's no alligators. And she's like, I always say ignorance is bliss. That's why I date Joey Marbles.

[B]

But let's just, like, not put that out in the universe. So TJ Is like, okay, well, I found a house, and I'm just, like, gonna go ahead and book it. Because, like, being that you're not allowed to book houses on Airbnb still, she's like, I know. I mean, like, five years later, I'm still banned. I basically threw too many house parties in Airbnbs. One time, I had friends all standing on the countertop and it broke. I had, like, cigarette butts left outside, beer cans left everywhere, food left in the fridge. I had someone so drunk that they peed on the mattress and they found out when they took the sheets off one time, we like, literally just burned down a. Like, reduced to ashes. Like, whatever. Like, sue me.

[C]

Like, one time I went into a lake house, and they just murdered everybody who was in there. It was fun. You know, the. The walls were bloody. I mean, a girl likes to party, so sue me. I literally would.

[B]

I'm like, yes. If you pee on my mattress, I am suing you for a new mattress. I'm suing you for a new counter. Yes. She's telling these stories. Like, oh, you know, these things happen. No, no, it's awful. Yeah, you should be banned from the

[C]

reason you're the reason Palm Springs has noise ordering ordinances, and the rest of us can't go party. You know, people like you, you, Maddie. Shame. Shame on you. So it's like, well, I was gonna ask the guys if they wanted to have, like, matching overalls because we could, like, you know, have like, a after party after our floating thing. We could all wear overalls. Wouldn't that be cute?

[B]

Oh, fuck. That makes me think I need to, like, tell the girls to get something. Oh. I'm like, you guys wear uniforms all day long, and now you guys want to continue to match? Okay, fine.

[C]

So they're like, hoedown. Hoedown. And he says, hopefully, no one's gonna get thrown down like Emmy. She goes, oh, my God, I am speechless.

[B]

Okay, bye.

[C]

Yeah. So now it's Republic shift. Maddie's DJing, everybody's working, and Joe sees a group of ladies passing. He's like, hey, you. You guys came on the bright weekend. You want to come on in? Yeah, come on in here. It's me. Emojo. Emojo.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm you. I'm sorry.

[B]

Brad's ignoring Emmy still. And Brad is like, you know, there's a horrible taste in my mouth towards Emmy. I'm disappointed. You can't sit there and walk back your apology and say that you're only apologizing because you're worried about what I would do to you. That's, like, up. You're not being genuine. And I can't be friends with someone that's like, that. So then Emmy is like, whatever. She's like, so have you heard what's been going on, like, with the rumblings of, like, Brad still being, like, upset with me and stuff like that? Man's like, like, what? Because of why? Like, do you know? Do you know? Well, apparently, he thinks that because I felt. I guess. I guess unsafe wasn't the right word, I guess. Yeah. I already apologized to Brad, so I don't know what got him all stirred up and upset with me again. I really don't. Because when we're at Folly, we were great, but leaving Folly, we were. We were fine, but, like, now it's just, like, cold shoulder. Like, what the hell have I done? By the way, if I hear the word folly one more time on this show, I'm literally gonna have to cancel my subscription to, like, YouTube TV. Like, I. I cannot hear them mention Bali one more time.

[C]

I just want to go and, like, well, I want to have a conversation with him because, like, I don't want this to, like, be something that we, like, bring on our trip to a dip, though. And I just, like, really. I just really want to have a good time.

[B]

So then Justin's like, hey, you excited to go TV tomorrow, Brad? He's like, yeah, I'm excited, but I'm not getting in that water. There's alligators. Yeah, I don't like that water. Yeah. And Brad's like, dude, relax. Like, no, man, there's brain eating amoeba in there. Which, by the way, I'm not gonna lie. I also was like that because I feel like every five years there's like a story of some girl who goes canoeing in the south and, like, gets loses her arm because of either, like, you know, flesh eating bacteria or like an amoeba gets in her brain. I just am like, water in the South. I just don't with it.

[C]

You literally say that about puddles. Like, we'll pass a puddle. You're like BRANDY and you 100 true. Because I used to think you're just, you know, kind of prissy about it because I live by a lake, so I'll mention the lake sometimes Brand eating amoeba. I'm like, okay, mom, you know, but then last summer there was a brain eating amoeba. They're like, do not walk your dogs at the lake right now. Because there's brain eating amoebas, but there's

[B]

also like, like really poisonous steaks. And like, I remember. You ever seen that movie mud with Matthew McConaughey?

[C]

Why would I watch a movie called Mud?

[B]

You. It was really good. It was really, really good. Had a very random cast. It was.

[C]

It's like that movie Worms. I'm not watching that mud hat.

[B]

I think because the guy's name was Mud. I think I could be wrong.

[C]

Like, change either way. There was my responsibility.

[B]

It was one of those southern gothic movies, you know, it's like in like a Fried Green Tomatoes thing, like, coming up.

[C]

Like, who doesn't? You know, A fried green tomato.

[B]

Right? And Jessica Tandy. Right. But like Mud. It was one of these things where it's like, I remember waking up under the willow trees and there was like, you know, it's like, don't go in the water. There's snakes in the water. And, you know, you don't need me to tell you what happens. There's a snake.

[C]

I mean, that's true.

[B]

But check out snake.

[C]

That's true. But like, I went to HomeGoods yesterday and I looked around and I was like, these people are terrifying. It's like, who do you pick? You know, the snake or people?

[B]

Do you go into brackish, scary water or do you go to Home Goods?

[C]

Yeah, look, read the news. The news is about humans bombing each other, being racist to each other, being awful. Just murder, terror everywhere. Do you see a lot of snakes? No. You don't? Like, maybe once in a while you'll see a snake. I choose the snakes.

[B]

I have to say, I'm looking at the cast of Mud. It Is like, tell me this is a southern gothic coming of age story without telling me that Reese Witherspoon's in it and she plays someone named Juniper. Sam Shepard is in it. I mean, Sam Shepard only appears in southern gothic coming of age stories. Sarah Paulson, Michael Shannon. It's all. It's all just like when I grew up kind of stuff. It was such a good movie. I loved it.

[C]

A lot of missing teeth. A lot of missing teeth in that one. So Justin's worried about a brain eating amoeba. Babe, they want more than a snack, you know what I mean?

[B]

I think that's the other thing. What's there to save at this point, you know?

[C]

So he's like, yeah, 20 year old from Boston goes out in a brain eating amoeba in Charleston. No, this is what I'll say. I'll go into the water and then I'll start acting crazy or I'll, like, I'll get to do the things they wanted to do and I'll say all the things I wanted to say and then I'll blame it on a brain eating amoeba. That stays between us. Guys, it's me, Justin.

[B]

I mean, come on. Meanwhile, the amoeba are like, guys, just remember there's gonna be some really dumb humans in the water today. Don't eat them. Don't eat them. It's dangerous for us.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They're like, I don't want to go, douchebag.

[C]

Incoming.

[B]

They're like, I don't want to swim in that river today. There's douchebags in there.

[C]

So then Michael asks the table. He's like, so are we interested in getting a bottle tonight? Like, cuz. Oh my. Go texting on her phone. I mean, we're working. You don't get paid to sit down. Like, if you're going to sit, go home. She like, what?

[B]

What the. Me and Michaels are like brother and sister. And he is on my emergency contact list. And so I can like 100% tell Michaels is mad at me. I'm just like, trying to figure out why he's a. In this moment, Em. He's like, brad, do you mind if we have a chat real quickly? So, you know our conversation that we had at. At Folly, I've just been hearing rumblings that, you know, there might have been a misperceived perception of the word that we might have said was unsafe. And, you know, like, everything that happened in New York, like, I don't know, like, like every emotion I was feeling, like, it's Like, I hear you. I just don't, like, really want to talk about it right now. It's like, right up right now. That means hands turn into paddles. You know, like, when she gets upset, like, she turns into, like, a little Lego person. She's like, what? But. But right. Right now. No, don't want to. No.

[C]

We're at work, and I just feel like this really isn't the time or place. Okay, so I hear you out, but just not right now. Oh, God. So he's going to drag it out for all time, and he's like, yeah, I don't even know what's real and what's fake. All the lies, all the crying, the. You know, it's a waste. So for me, I just need to take a second and find the right words because this is serious stuff. Like, my. My feelings are genuinely hurt. And tomorrow we can have a conversation. Emmy. But just, like, not right now. She's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I, I. I just don't. I, like, I don't want anything to be weird. And that's why I wanted to, like, you know, talk about it. But, like, if you don't want to talk about it, like, we don't have to talk about it. Like, that's okay. It's okay. You don't want to talk about it. Okay. We don't have to talk about it. Okay. That's walking slowly out of the room. Okay, so it's all okay. Don't hurt me.

[B]

Me.

[C]

Do not hurt me. I'm slowly. You want my purse? Take my purse.

[B]

Okay. He has a gun, guys. He has a gun. He has a gun.

[C]

I have children. Please don't hurt me.

[B]

So he's like, okay, whatever. So then Blake is like. Goes up to Michael's, and she goes like, how are you? He goes, good. And then she's like, good. So then he. Michael's basically like, pulls Brad to be like, hey, I need you for one second, like, come over here behind this drapery. He's like, what's up? He's like, I need you to help me. Protect me from me right now. Because, like, I'm getting really annoyed. Like, I'm over it. Like, I'm just, like, really annoyed at the fact that, like, Lake was still talking about the microaggression after I asked you, like, not to talk about it with anybody. And we have a flashback to their conversation last week where Michael said, this is a conversation that Brad wants to have with Emmy. And out of respect for Brad, just so, like, don't say anything. So Michael says, you know, and Brad asked you, like, not to talk about it with anybody. But then now the issue is that basically Lake mentioned something to this girl Ella. But there's also a Bella. Isn't there a Bella and Ella?

[C]

There's a Bella. Yeah, maybe it's Bella. So she told Bella and so. Or Ella. I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Ella, Bella, Bella, Ella. So like, wait a minute, what did you say? Bella, Ella. And she's like, I literally just said like, it's like the microaggression. And it was like racist stuff. And so I mean, you know, knew that they were talking about like the microaggression. Racism. This like stuff. She's like, oh, next time I tell you something, don't say to Emmy. It's like, oh my God, did I you over really bad.

[B]

There are just like some things you don't share with everybody after you've shared those things with someone else. Okay. And that's. This is like one of those things. So I can't be friends with someone that I can't trust. And it's like I don't have the time and the energy for wishy washy running a multi million dollar club. Okay, now the next three men who are wearing Tommy Bahama. You get in for free. Get in here, bros.

[C]

Hasn't everybody been talking about this? I'm just so confused. Like, it's been a plot line. The entire cast sat around and talked about it.

[B]

I think here's what bothers me, is that what happens, what we see later on in the episode, what Michael clarifies it, is that he told Lake not to like tell not to. Not to say anything about this to anyone. And then Lake went and told Brad to clear the air, which I think she was totally entitled to because the whole issue is that Brad had an issue with Lake and Michaels was relaying that to. To Lake. But then later on what. What Michaels is really upset about is that Brad told him something in confidence and then he went and told Lake that thing in confidence and then is upset that Lake went and told it to Ella because it makes Michaels look like a gossip. So it actually has nothing to do with the microaggression or I shouldn't say, is not primarily what it is. His issue is that he doesn't like looking like a gossip. And so he's going to excoriate Lake for doing the same things that Michael just did. And we've seen this happen so many times on reality tv and that's why I got. That's what I got upset about. Because it's like. It's one thing to be like, this is really serious. Like, don't. This is not fodder for, like, gossip. Gossip. I'm telling you this because you're involved in it, but, like, don't gossip. Whatever. But he is actually, like, complaining about the fact that that, like, went and said something that was told her in confidence when he had just said that he was told something in confidence. So I'm like, Michael's.

[C]

But I guess his argument would be. Well, I told Lake that because Brad was saying she wasn't standing up for him with the microaggression thing and that he would expect more from someone who would get it, basically. So that's more of a sensitive thing. So for her to go and be like, brad's mad at me about a microaggression is. I don't know. To me, it's like, you're all talking about this, and it's not. Well, I mean, it's not that it's not sensitive. It's just that you're all talking about it, and it's like the main plot line. So why shouldn't she be able to talk about it? Like, she's right. She's a young girl, and, like, if she has to go have this conversation with Brad, that wasn't an easy conversation for her to have. I don't know. I don't. I was like. I thought she did a good job in that conversation. So.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I know that he's not mad about that conversation. He's mad that she told this girl Ella. But I don't know. It's like you're gossiping at a restaurant, and of course, you tell people what your drama. To me, it just doesn't seem. Even if it was bad. Okay. Even if I'm totally getting this wrong and she shouldn't have done it. Okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna just give that one. You should. If you said you wouldn't say something, you shouldn't say it. Yeah, but is it this bad that you need to be, like, completely ostracized and treated like.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

On a group? I just don't think the punishment is not. Punishment doesn't fit. Yeah, it doesn't.

[B]

It's really mean. Like, I think Lake messed up for sure. She shouldn't have. And it's also about a sensitive thing. And, you know, as. We'll see, her mom, you know, her mom, you know, gives her a piece of her mind. At the end of the episode, which was hilarious. And that's what Michael should have done and been like, I love you, but, like, you up. You shouldn't have done that. Why are you telling the.

[C]

That.

[B]

Why are you telling Ella, of all people about this? Especially because this is about. This isn't just gossip. This is about a microaggression. You know, this is within our community. Why are you doing this? But, like, he's just icing her out and then talking to everyone else about it. And I just think that's, like, shitty.

[C]

Like, it's fine for him to go talk to everybody else about it, but not.

[B]

And he's complaining that she. That she's making him look like a gossip. And then he's going and gossiping to everyone about how he's not a gossip, and she's making him look like a gossip. And I think it's like, like, totally obnoxious. And she's like. Winds up like, you know, she's like, had this just, like, meant to feel like a piece of. At this. This group trip.

[C]

Yeah. I don't like it. He comes off as a major in this, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So Brad's like, yeah, you know, it wasn't supposed to be a game of telephone that other people are getting involved with, but it's deeper than just my issues. Lake and Michael have their own issues. D. So now Michaels and TJ go to get mani patties, and Michaels is like, don't look at my toes. They're, like, grown out. Like, oh, my God. They're, like, grown out so bad. Yeah, I think it's cute when he laughs. He goes. He, like, purses his lips. He's like.

[B]

So he's texting with this guy Chad, and he's like, I'm dead. Like, this is hilarious. And TJ is like, looking like. Like, oh, people text to flirt with you. What's that? Like, that's. That looks nice.

[C]

We still send Morse code in my age range, so that's cool.

[B]

Are you guys. Are you talking to the same guy that you talked. That you went on day with the other day? And so we see a flashback to Michael's on a date. And this guy is like, at the beginning of the summer, I was on, like, a huge oyster kick, but now not so much. Oh, fascinating.

[C]

And then the text we see is like, hey, you round. And he's like, oh, my God, I can't. I, like, literally can't. Hilarious. He's so funny.

[B]

My God, that's so good. What app are you on? It's like, raya. It's like, oh, well, I haven't been accepted by the guy. I feel like the reason that you have better luck is because of the age bracket, right? I'm like, he's also, like, tall and gorgeous, so it's like, oh, also, it's like, it's not because I post naked.

[C]

So you see pictures of him and he's like, in a Speedo and stuff. And he says, yeah, last year, like, I wanted to be, like, a house husband, and now this year I'm a slut. And, like, I'm 23 and, like, my frontal lobe is not fully developed yet. What?

[B]

He's like, you know, I go on a run. I'm like, posting half naked. I'm like, I don't care anymore. Bring the meat. Like, let me meet some meat. You know, the producer's like, you know those are like, fully thirst traps, right? It's like, oh, yeah, girl, I'm thirst trapping. I work too hard on this body not to give the people what they want. Like, I wish I was, like, more naked right now. Like, I could even, like, flex my packs. And then all of a sudden, he's like, shirtless, and it's like, oh, next question.

[C]

Like, no joke. My DMS are, like, way too young. Are way too old, and they're just like. Or they're disgusting messages, you know, like, suck my or send me a whole pic.

[B]

Like, well, to be fair, you have, like, a wiener brand.

[C]

That's true. Maybe you should take the giant wiener off your profile pic.

[B]

I remember being 29, and I was about to turn 30, and I was like, by 33, I'm going to be with someone that I want to be with forever. And at 34, approaching 35, it's getting a little scary. I mean, when I'm 40, I better not still be single. I definitely better not be listening to emo music. So he's. He's like, it's a huge confidence issue right now. Like, what's going on? I'm like, am I. Am I ugly?

[C]

We made out, like, me and TJ and, like, I wouldn't make out with you if you were ugly. Like, the thing is, like, TJ is, like, so picky. Like, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so picky. Like, he's really picky. And he's like, God, I just feel like I'm in a hole. He's like, you're in a hole. I'm in a hole.

[B]

We're bonding. If you were to describe what your ideal man looks like. What does he look like? In the taller range of height, which is my way of saying tall, dark features, dark hair. Definitely someone that's tall, dark and handsome. I feel like that's my type. And of course, I like showing clips of Michaels with every one of these characteristics. And then they ask Michaels and he's like, I definitely like somebody that has a great body. I do like older men from my previous history. Someone who loves to vacuum all day long. Someone who loves to, I don't know, sell hot dogs. Someone with a full head of hair, things like that. Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, oh, my God, they're perfect for each other. So we see a dead roach and teacher's like, oh, my God, he's dead. Rest in peace, big homie. Like, this is going to be you if you don't find somebody. D.J. just like a dead roach on the ground. Hey, wait. That roach sent you a text that said, show me your hole.

[B]

I can't. Like I'm dead. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

[A]

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[B]

I sold my car in Carvana last night.

[C]

Well, that's cool. No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer down to the penny.

[B]

They're picking it up tomorrow.

[C]

Nothing went wrong.

[B]

So what's the problem? That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes as smoothly.

[C]

I'm waiting for the catch.

[B]

Maybe there's no catch. That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

You need to relax. I need to knock on wood. Do we have wood?

[C]

Is this table wood?

[B]

I think it's laminate. Okay. Yeah, that's good.

[C]

That's close enough.

[B]

Car selling without a catch. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pick up fees may apply. So now it's time to go out to a disto and tj. It's like they're all meeting up at the house and TJ's like, Michaels, those are like, bottom shorts. He's like, no. So they get it. They're all saying hi. They're loading up cars and stuff. And Mia's like, is everyone ready to hoe down, Throw down?

[C]

So Joe is making big headlines in the friend group because his hair is different, and he's like, this is what my hair looks like with, like, nothing in it, you guys. It's like, emojo. I took the bump it out. I kind of like Joe's hair like that. That's crazy. Looks like Trevor's hair. I miss Trevor. So then Michaels gets in the car, and he's like, I'm not getting wet. Joe, what did you do with all my cucumbers? Oh, my God, the cucumbers. This is what happens when you have a friend who grows vegetables. You're giving that shit away for weeks at a time. Do you know how many people I gave lemons because my friend's mother has a lemon tree? I gave so many lemons away, and they fall off the tree. So they don't look the same as in the store. They're all kind of, like, misshapen and stuff. Stuff. And people are like, what are you giving me these misshapen lemons for?

[B]

Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I would accept all your lemons, Rami. Gladly.

[C]

Oh, that's sweet.

[B]

Yeah, I really would. So Michaels. Yeah. He's like, well, where my cucumbers? I put them in Maddie's sock drawer with her other toys. So they're driving, and in one car, Molly is like, like, joe, I don't think I've ever seen your hair look the way it does currently. He's like, no, that's. This is, like, what it is, like, what my hair looks like. It's like, he's getting ready for emo night. Yeah. Like, I hope everyone's getting excited. It's, like, not even happening this episode. It's such a big deal.

[C]

Yeah. So are people gonna do body shots later? Oh, my God, you guys. And Julie is like, oh, my God, tj, this past weekend, I looked at timestamps. You guys were making out for, like, a full hour, you and Michael's. And she said, and Julie is like, yeah. Multiple times at the barn. Folly, Folly, Folly, Folly. Just want to go in there a few times, so you don't see me much. The first video that we have is, like, 10:12. And the picture that I took of y' all sitting at the bar was 1107. So for a full hour, you guys were, like, making out. Full on. Full on. Making out at Folly, Folly, Folly, Folly, Folly, Folly, Folly, Folly.

[B]

Oh, my God, there's so much tension. You guys. Oh, my God. And she just like, I wonder what they're talking about. In the other car. I'm awkward. So then the other card, Molly, is like, is it true that bbls smell bad? Maddie goes, I've never heard that rumor.

[C]

I heard they smell like ass.

[B]

Why would a BBL smell bad? Like, meaning that, like, the implant would smell.

[C]

Does it mean, like, after you get one? Like, maybe while you're draining or something? Maybe it smells bad. Or does it mean, like, your butt's so big now you can't wipe it properly? Deliberately smell bad?

[B]

I have no idea. Then the other car, Justin announces, I drank my piss before for money, too, and this is a guy who's worried about brain eating amoeba. So then that's a choice. Have you ever tasted your own come? Julia's like, have you, tj? He's like, oh, I wasn't expecting the table to be turned on me that way so quickly.

[C]

He just laughs. He's like, so then we go in the car with Emmy, Lake, and Bella, and it's just silent and, like, it's like I have hiccups. That really sucks. That sucks. She goes, yeah, okay. Back in the car with Julie and Brad.

[B]

So then they're still asking about tasting each other's cum or their own cum, whatever and whatever. So then we go to Emmy, and they have. And then Emmy and Lake. Lake is like, I don't like that we're in the middle of nowhere. I think I would like to pull Brad aside. I'm just gonna disregard your fear. Sorry. I just. I want to pull Brad aside and have a conversation with him as. As soon as possible. As soon as possible. Then Justin and the other car is like, hey, so, Brad, you still have no inclination to speak with Emmy, right? It's like, I mean, I'm gonna talk with her when I talk with her. But the thing is, this is our last conversation, and it's just done until the next conversation.

[C]

So in the car with Emmy and Lake, Emmy's like, this had nothing to do with Brad being, like, with anything. Like, with his skin color or anything like that. I mean, I don't even notice he's black. And what I do, I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, I forgot you're black. That was scary. But anyway, you know, like, the thing is, like, I just don't know. Like, I don't think he's an aggressor. Like, I don't. I don't think he was an aggressor. And, like, it's like, but, like, the thing is, like, when you talk about microaggressions, like, I'm like, understanding of Brad's struggles, and he's dealt with it his whole life. Yeah, yeah. Because, like, Bella, she's like, you're like an empath.

[B]

Yeah, you're like an empath to your core. She's like, yeah, yeah, I'm an empath. But it's like, okay, because, like, you have to think about how we felt in that moment. So Lake tells us that it's, like, hard for her because she doesn't want to get involved because Brad told her that he wants to have the conversation. So she's trying to respect Brad's wishes. And Emmy's like, I did nothing. At the end of the day, you get microaggressions for microaggressions, and I did nothing. I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing. She's doing her anything while driving the car. I'm surprised they did not flip that vehicle.

[C]

She's so unhinged. So then Julian, Brad. Brad's like, okay, you guys are tucked back there. And TJ's like, yeah, it's gonna be a long way for Emmy to drive home later. So they get out of the car as they. They check out the. This lake house. It's in the boonies, and it's this big, you know, pretty house. And. But, I mean, you know, the way they're looking at it, like, that's gorgeous.

[B]

Yeah, it's picking.

[C]

They're.

[B]

They're. They're choosing rooms and stuff. And there are, by the way, alligators in the river nearby. So Michael's is. Everyone's saying how they're choosing rooms, and Michaels is like, wait, I feel like you and Marty should just pick the rooms because, like, you guys plan the trip. I feel. I feel like a selfish. But there's a queen bed in there, so Joe, you and me, we can sleep in there. And if you pick that room, there has to be three of you. You guys can't have sex. Oh, Job.

[C]

Damn it. So the gays decide to sleep together, and Michaels was like, well, I'm eager to share a room with. With TJ because, like, I do not want to share with Lake.

[B]

I would rather spend the night with TJ than I would, like, right now. Like, is the. Is that the only reason you want to share a room with tj? You're two gays. You must love each other, right? You guys must kiss. Want to kiss because you're both gay. He's like, yeah, yeah.

[C]

So Brad, Julie, Is like, brad, we can do the air mattress. And he's like, kind of wanted to have sex. She goes, bradley, Bradley. So then everyone's like, oh, my God, the kids are gonna make out. I don't know. They're just getting settled in and stuff. And Joe's telling us, yo, I thought this, like. Like, I mean, it's kind of on me, but, like, I thought this was gonna be, like, a romantic trip with me and, like, Maddie, but, like, I guess not, because, like, that we'd have our own bedroom. And then customy. She's like, oh, my God, we are gonn from lady together. We are going to be so comfortable. Go. Sleep so hard. I sleep so hard.

[B]

Yeah. They're not having sex on this trip, okay? Because Maddie already went through that once with Trevor. And we see a flashback to the first season when they had sex in the back of that RV Magic. Mortified. I was mortified. Like, oh, my God, I never having sex on a group trip again. I need a lint roller.

[C]

Lake texts Michaels, are you mad at me? And she says, I've been blowing up his phone. And, like, nothing. Michaels is in person, like, caspering me. That's just not us, you know? Like, who do you call when you need something? Who do you call when you just want to call somebody? Me. Okay, that's like, 20, 24 7. This is weird. What the hell?

[B]

He is fully. He sees the tax, and he's fully ignoring her. And so now they're in. So Michael's like, body shots, guys, too early. Whatever. So they're all just continuing to talk, and Emmy's like. Emmy's been saying, like, she talked with Lake and Bell about how everything's been going on, and she goes, somehow I'm the bad person now. Brad was the one that put the insinuation out there that thought that I thought he was some kind. That I thought he was some sort of aggressor just because I said he was unsafe and he was going to kill me and I had to have him change rooms. I mean, why would I ever say that?

[C]

Maddie's like, but I thought you said something like, the Michaels was like, you know, like, emmys, be careful what you say. She goes, I said, brad, like, you're intimidating. Like, I. I was. I was, like, scared of how he was gonna retaliate. Like, that's all I meant. Like, look at how you retaliated against you with that blowjob rumor. Like. Like, I just feel like there's, like, another. Another conversation to be had, you know?

[B]

What?

[C]

I mean, but you want to have the conversation. And so, like, what am I supposed to do?

[B]

Yeah. So you're trying to be, like friends with everyone again. And it would be nice if you could acknowledge that. But, like, I'm telling you right now, don't get your expectations up that he will. No, no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. So then, then they all go outside and Mia's doing cartwheel. She has like a one handed cartwheel, which is great except for the fact that Brad blocks the shot. Come on now. And then Brad is like, I didn't know you had that kind of skeptical athleticism. And then Justin's doing it. He does like a backflip and everything and kind of showing off. And Mia's like, you know what he's like? It's like when little boys, like, try to do something to impress girls, like, like in the playground. And I'm like, very nice, Very nice. Like, whatever. He's dating Charlie. Doesn't even matter.

[C]

I am impressed that he can do backflips or flips or whatever he did. But then he's one of those guys that he can do that. So he does it 20 more times. He just keeps doing it throughout the whole episode.

[B]

There's like one time where like some. There's a whole conversation that's happening and they cut back to like, Michael's to see his reaction. And then you just see Justin do a backflip in the background. It's like he just can't stop.

[C]

Yeah. So Michael's just like, oh, my God, are you, like, hot right now? Because you saw him do a flip. Like, you've got stuff dripping down your leg, Mia. Oh. It's like, yeah, if you want to catch my attention, then maybe you should, like, backflip with a shiny mx. I'm just kidding. I'm not a gold digger. I just want my ups.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, if you want me to. You, like, find my UPS box, that would be great.

[B]

So Lake emerges and she's wearing this kind of like red sort of. It has like a hood. It's like lacy, kind of like a cover up. And she's sort of like serving a look, which is funny because, like, this is not the show that that's ever gonna land because no one seems to understand.

[C]

You're at a river.

[B]

You're at a river. You're at a brown river with amoeba and alligators in it.

[C]

And she's like, michaels, can you take some pictures of me? He goes, what?

[B]

What?

[C]

Could you do me a favor? What? Could. Can you hear me? Yeah. What? Can you take pictures? What? Can you take some pictures of me? No, he just turns around and goes back into his room and shuts the door. He's like, so annoying.

[B]

And he goes, ask me to take your pictures. He's like. And she's like, this trip is honestly just off to such a shitty start. I don't want to be here. So now she's in this, like, look, but she's moping around in this look. And then she, like, walks off to a dock, and she sits at the end of the dock and just, like, on her. Her butt in the look. Like, she's.

[C]

He's such an asshole.

[B]

He's an. And like. But also, like, the look is be like, yeah, look at me. Like, look at. I'm like, I'm serving Cut Fitness right now. But instead, she's just, like, sad and rumpled in it. I felt so bad for her. But also it was kind of funny that she had this whole look on and she was just like, sitting on a dock.

[C]

Yeah. So then Maddie and me are like, oh, my God, let's do it about Tik Tok. Let's do one of the trends. And many goes, okay, give me five seconds. Because, like, there's this game I saw on Tik Tok where one person's running and then the other person, like, literally tries to catch them. So it's chase tag. You guys reinventing. So you guys thinking you inventing stuff. On Tik Tok, I thought there's gonna

[B]

be, like, some twists, some hilarious, clever Gen Z twist. It's literally them playing tag or chase. I guess they call it chase. Where you up like this.

[C]

This is really a generation who didn't get to go outside when they were.

[B]

Yeah, this is so funny. There's this game on Tik Tok game. Okay, so you're like, pretending people are different birds, but then, like, everyone sits around in a circle and you're, like, tapping people on the head and be like, you're a bird. You're a bird, you're a bird. But then one person, like, you're a different bird, and then they have to chase you. It's like, amazing. It's like Dark Duck Goose.

[C]

There's this game where, like, some two people hold a rope and then the other person jumps on the rope. Like, they try to jump over and try not to fall. It's like, really cool. It's Tick tock.

[B]

Double Dutch. No, it's a new thing. So they Play. They literally play tag. And they film it like, this is the most novel thing they've ever seen. And I'm also like, when does your game end? Because, like, if you catch.

[C]

If.

[B]

If the. If the chaser catches the person, the game ends. But then if the other. If. Like. Like, how long do you give that person to. To. To reach the other person? Like, when. How long is your video? That's what I'm trying to say.

[C]

Yeah. So Maddie's like, well, I'm, like, used to being chased by the cops when I was younger. And, like, I was, like, partying a lot. And, like, the cops, like, boom, boom, boom, hit the door. And, like, you are in the woods. You were, like, sprinting. And I got away every time until I didn't, and I was in rehab, but whatever I was good at.

[B]

Great story. Great lesson in there. So now TJ is running, and Julia's chasing him. And Brad's like, why does TJ look like a bad kid running from his mom? TJ's like, if you want to see me run fast, have a pretty girl chase me. Ew, girls.

[C]

So then Julia can't catch up with tj, and he's like, I'm gonna throw up. So now there's a sprinter van. And Michael's is like, what kind of bus is this? It's usually yellow.

[B]

Nice. Nice bus. Dis. And they all get in, and everyone's like, we're all fun. Yay. How's everyone feeling? We're all having fun. But then we zoom in and see Lake is, like, sad, but of course, no one pays attention to her. So no one's like, lake, feel better? So they. They go to this river, this brown, disgusting river. And Matt's like, guys, we're gonna go tubing, and then we're gonna have lunch on the beach with tubing water all over our hands. And then we're gonna play some games. Who's excited? Like, yay.

[C]

And Justin's like, what if there's brain eating amoeba? Like, I care about that stuff. And the staff. The staff lady's like, oh, you don't get those here, okay? Because rivers move. That's for still water. Okay? These rivers move. And Joe's like, there's nothing for them to eat. And they're like, yeah, it's not stagnant water. Okay, so let's get into it. Justin's like, but are there snakes or. They're alligators. I mean, what's the situation there? Like, well, you know, you go to the river, you Stay in the middle of the river. River. Because if you're on the sides of the river, that's where the snakes are and the. And alligators and stuff like that, that'll eat you. So just don't, you know, don't ever come out from the middle, okay? Just stay in the middle. When you're ready to get out of the water, you can't, or you'll get eaten, okay? Just stay out there.

[B]

It's like. That is not reassuring to me. I do not have enough confidence that the law of averages say that the alligators are by the side. Like, if I'm sitting in a. In a tube and my butt is in that water, if there's. If I know an alligator can come and especially grab me by the butt. What? No, thanks. I am sitting on a beach. I am taking the sprinter van to the volleyball nets. I am not participating in this.

[C]

Yeah, but these ladies are like, seriously? You're asking if there's anything in a river? Yes, there are living things in a river, you idiot. You want from.

[B]

It looks disgusting. The whole thing is disgusting. And they get in this river there. So then they. They, like, join together in, like, this giant, like, flower petal formation with their tubes. And then they just are all sitting there floating, which they could have just been doing if they all sat in chairs on land, but that's fine. And they're splashing each other with the gross water. And then Justin's like. He's like, michaels, so what are we gonna hear tonight? You know, what's gonna happen?

[C]

And Brad's like, yeah, tubing culture. I'm taking youtubing. That's it.

[B]

I've gone tubing.

[C]

It's a thing.

[B]

Yeah, I've gone tubing, but, like, I've gone tubing.

[C]

Like, sitting in a chair.

[B]

I've gone tubing, but, like, in nice rivers. But I'm like, it's not. I am not risking getting killed by an alligator just to go tubing. Like, put me tubing in a nice body of water. Not this.

[C]

Okay, fair enough. So, yeah, they're talking around that. And then everyone starts making fun of what's his buns for? Hooking up with Countess Luann. Because they're like, okay, who's the oldest guy that everyone's hooked up with? Like, oh, my God. Yeah, that. And Michael's like, define hookup. And Molly goes 64 for me. And everyone's like, 64. Jesus.

[B]

I didn't know agents could get that high. Yes.

[C]

She's like, I had some Rment shots. During my Rumpelman phase. And like, everyone looks a little younger when you drink rubble mints. Okay?

[B]

I'm glad I never had a Rumpelman's face. So she basically, then, then they're asking about Joe and the Countess and Brad's like, he's like, well, I mean, you know, like, it depends if, you know, you actually think I got with a countess, because, like, I didn't. And, and no, no one believes him, right? And Joe's like, I did not have sex with her, I promise you. Like, if I did, I would have, like, nothing to lie about. It's like, they're like, please, like, give it up. And Emmy's like, joe had whiskey dick.

[C]

I was hammered, okay? I have text when I'm hammered. And Emmy goes, yeah, it's the only reason you didn't, Luann. Okay. He's like, yeah, I couldn't get it up for one of you guys. And Maddie's like, yeah, I believe it. Cuz Joe like, like, you know, what if he was drinking that night and if Joe's drunk, like, the dick doesn't work. Like, it's just how it is.

[B]

And then we see a clip of Countess Luan saying, well, he did come to my apartment and we had a little bit of an after party. And now, yes. So a lady doesn't kiss and tell, but she kisses and sings. Three, two, one. I, Joe Bradley, he. Me too. We together. And I would do it nine again.

[C]

Oh my God, that is the worst kept secret. They totally. And Joe's like, but I do sleep over. And when we woke up in the morning, she like made me eggs and she called them like French eggs or something. It was like crazy, like eggs. A little Frenchie. It was like, it was like so funny. Eggs francaise, sir? God, you really aren't gay.

[B]

I know. And then I was like walking around and I was like, look at this beautiful painting. It's like, because, like, you know, I like art. It's like very emo of me, you know, because my bangs were down. And she goes like, my daughter painted that. I'm like, wow, how old is her daughter? And she goes, 28. And at the time I was 28. So like, yeah, she's awesome.

[C]

So now they get out of the water and they're having subs on the beach. And I liked, what's her button? She's like, oh my God, this is like the perfect size sandwich, Mia. It's like a third of a sandwich. Like this, like, perfect size.

[B]

Then tj, who has a full set of Abs. He goes, I'm gonna hide my fat with a towel. And he covers himself up. I was like, this is, this is the problem that our community has. Like, oh my God, look at that fat TJ over there. Yeah.

[C]

Crazy. So Michaels brings up that TJ told him about his walk with Great or his talk. His talk with Grace yesterday. And. Or walk. I guess it is walk. And TJ's like, yeah, it was like, look, I'm not saying your feelings are. Aren't valid, but like, clearly this has gone on too long. Like you need some help and you can't say like that. Like, you know, and then she got on yalls friendship. Maddie. Maddie's like, oh, God. So they're asking her like, what are your next steps with Grace? And she's like, I'm not talking to her. I'm done with her. I mean, it's like, yeah, all they do is have conversations. And then, you know, she says, you're a bad friend to her. And then you never give, give her a call.

[B]

Yeah. Maddie's basically like, I don't want this responsibility anymore. It's like a full time job. I want to quit. I put my two weeks in. You know, know I have empathy for Grace and what she's going through, and I can relate to it more than anyone else in this group. But like, when you keep enabling that behavior, you're just telling someone that's okay to behave that way. So she's basically like, yeah, I'm just gonna let it go. And she's. It's like nothing has been rock bottom enough for her yet. Like me stop. Being friends with her is not gonna be rock bottom. She has to know rock bottom on her own.

[C]

Yeah. And Joe's like, yeah, but like, like in her heart, in her mind, she knows that, like, she needs to heal thing, you know, guys, so you know what heals?

[B]

Cornhole.

[C]

Let's play some cornhole.

[B]

Y. Count us. So cornhole time. They're playing my favorite game. And then Justin is like, yeah, let's play some volleyball now. Like, yeah, okay, cool. So they're gonna play some volleyball and then Brad is telling Mia that she needs to be single. You know, she's never been single. She always goes from, from man to man to man and just has to be single for once in your life. She's like, this is facts. It's facts, unfortunately. And I think, oh, well, I don't know if anything's gonna happen with Justin and I. By the way, I'm just gonna say this right now. I Don't think anyone in the audience cares what happens with me and Justin. I'm sorry, Mia, you're great. You're fun. We love you.

[C]

Yeah, Justin's like, a definite downgrade. You can't bring Troy on the show and then go to Justin. Like, it doesn't work like that.

[B]

We don't care.

[C]

So she's like, you know, like, Jordan's into him, but we're not friends. Like, I don't even have her name saved to my. My phone. So, like, if he's singly single, why not? And he's telling them, yeah, we're supposed to go out on a date. And then she said rain check, but then, like, she wouldn't even rain check me. So everybody's laughing, and then they go play volleyball, and Emmy's sucking at it, and she's like, oh, my God, there's something about volleyball. It just, like, pisses me off. Like, I played soccer. Like, I played field hockey. I played softball any day of the week. Like, you want me to play softball? Play that. But, like, volleyball. What the hell?

[B]

And so it was a lot of volleyball. And then Molly's like. You know, Molly and, like, Michaels and I think TJ Are sitting on, like, a little bench. And Molly's like, emmy is such a. But just got such a good ass. Yeah, well, it used to be bigger. Michael's like, yo, what the. It's like, well, you gotta give credit where credits do. Michael goes, my thing is, like, I just, like, don't give a. Like, yeah, Michael, the. The primary person who doesn't give a. As he ices out Lake.

[C]

So she walks up to him, and she's like, why aren't you guys playing? And he's like, I'm tired. And he looks away from her, and so she's like, okay. So she just walks away. And he's like, I know that she can feel me. She can feel that I've been, like, weirder and stuff. And TJ Goes, yeah, you do that.

[B]

I know how. I know how to get under people's skin. Like, y'. All. I just, like, can't help it. Like, I can't be fake to you if I'm not, like, with you. Like, I had a conversation with her about the situation broad. And Molly's like, oh, you talk about the unsafe comment. And the thing is, like, I had a conversation with her about it, and I told her to keep it, like, between us. And what did she do? She turned around and went and told Ella. Ella turned around and told Emmy and Michaels tells us when you grow up in like an Hispanic household, you're like, kind of taught that like, your family issues stay in your house. And like, Lake is the cousin that goes to your aunt and says something. And then like, your mom calls the next day and is like, like, why were you being such a she. Small sauce. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

And so Lake's like, oh, my God, they're literally talking about me over there. Like, I just heard it. I heard my name. And Michael's is like, yeah, well, you keep putting your foot in your mouth. And like, I can't defend that. Like, Pradita, my friend, like, you're done. So he tells us again that Brad was confiding in him and, you know, then she went around and talked to it to everybody or whatever. And now, I mean, knows what's going on on. And now he looks bad. When he was just trying to relay a conversation to help out Lake in that situation. And now he looks like a cheese moso.

[B]

Yeah. So Lake is like, I'm about to leave this. He's like, I'm in a place where, like, I know I can't trust her and I can't have a friendship with somebody that I can't trust. Sorry. So now there's more volleyball. And then they're finally a baby I love.

[C]

He's like, I don't want to be a gossip. I'm going to tell everybody here how I feel about, like, constantly, all episode.

[B]

Except for like, like, yeah, exactly. That's what I don't like about this, is that to me, this seems like an infraction. But it's nothing that requires this much when you're 22 or 23. This feels like the sane way to. To deal with it. But like, when you're older, you realize it's so stupid. Just say, lake, you really disappointed me. Like, don't ever do that again. And then have fun. Right? But this is so extra too much.

[C]

So Lake's like, oh, my God, when Michaels is in that you mood, you do not want to poke that bear. Cuz when that bear gets released. You saw what happened to Molly. And then we see him screaming in Molly's face. And so Brad comes over to talk to Michaels and he's like, what did you say about me? And he's like, it was the same conversation I had with you.

[B]

Me. And Mia's like, wait, why can't. Why, why can't I hear it? Michael's like, I don't want to talk about it. Like, drop it. It's like, but you can't act like that way and say, drop it. She goes, cuz, I don't want to talk. I don't want to get pissed. She like, maddie, what did she just tell you? Nothing. I don't. I don't think that there's a problem. It's like, well, then why is she being like this? Well, I think that she was playing volleyball and she heard you guys talk about her. And TJ's like, I feel bad for Leak. You know, Michaels makes it very well known when he is upset. And she's like, not dumb. She picks up on it. She feels the energy. The only person that has been vocal about his issues with Blake is, like, herself. And I feel so bad for Lake that I'm just not going to go over to her and console her and make her realize that she has more friends than just Michael. Yeah.

[C]

So Michael says he's so annoyed. And Maddie's like, why? That's your friend? And he's like, not right now. I don't feel bad for her. I don't care. Like, when you and I have a conversation and keep it between you and I don't go tell other people. And she's like, okay, so you care that she went to a lot of people. He's like, yeah, it's pissing me off. Because, like, it's not a conversation for her to have with other people. And she's like, so is it like the Emmy saying the unsafe thing? He goes, yeah. And it's not that big of a

[B]

deal, but actually it does have. But the conversation did have to do with Lake. The whole reason why Michael's brought it up was he said, brad feels like you are not, like you were not defending him enough about the microaggression. So Lake was directly involved. You know, I mean, maybe Michael's a saying, you know, Lake talking to Ella or Bella or Balella about microaggressions in general is not appropriate, which is fine. But like, like, she was part of this. It's not like. Not like she, like, I think she has a right to. To speak about it.

[C]

So Michaels is saying, ah, it's a big deal. And she kept talking. He's just going on and on to everybody but her, as usual. And so then this is where Justin tries to hop over a hammock and falls down. Yeah.

[B]

So then Lake goes up to Bella and Maddie, and Lake is like, was that about me? Bella's like, no, we weren't talking about you. I mean, I'm gonna be Honest with you. It was about a comment made at the Folly house. Folly, folly, folly. You know which comment I'm talking about. We talked about it on the way here. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Shall I do charades? I love charades. Okay, two words. No, no. Just tell me. Okay. Oh, that comment. Well, I talked to Brad about it. Man's like, yeah, but then apparently you went and talked to other people about it, and it was, like, supposed to be a conversation between, like, you and him.

[C]

So she's like, oh, well, that's a crazy reason to be mad at me for, like, when Brad is perfectly fine. Like, he's dealing with these issues with Emmy. Like, why are you mad at me? Like, pick and choose your battles. Like, don't choose them with me. Like, I've always been on your team. So now everyone gets on the bus and Lake just walks off and gets on the phone with her mom, Jerry, and she's like, so, mom, like, this really songs because, like, Michael's is mad at me for this whole, like, Brad talk. Like, when I told Ella and then she told Emmy and she goes, what did you tell her, honey? You've got to keep your mouth shut. Learn to keep your mouth shut. She's like, oh, mom. Like, I just told her, like, asking her for, like, advice, and she said, isn't she white? You're asking a white girl for advice about how to deal with black people, honey. She's like, mom, no.

[B]

Do you. Do you not know. Pull your together. She's like, this whole thing is up. It's true up. She. Jerry's like, you can't continue to break people's trust, honey. You can't run your mouth. All I want to do is go home. It's like, you know, it's. She's like, you know, it's what gets you in trouble, so quit doing it. Mom's just, like, reading her for filth.

[C]

Yeah. She's like, I didn't think it was going to go off. Just, you don't talk to white people about black people business. It's like, mom can't win, man. She's like, I have no one else to call me to call my mom mom. And her mom's like, nope, you suck.

[B]

Yeah. Her mom's like, don't do that. You up. Don't talk to white people about black people business. And I love you. I'll talk to you later. Like, that's how you deal with it. That's great. Oh, I was watching. Dom was cracking the up on. On the sofa. He was just like it was so bad. Anyway, fun episode and. But it did really break my heart to see Lake so sad. And then next week she like sobbing at the dinner table. I don't know, I. I really enjoy Lake so much. So we'll see how that all plays out. In the meantime, thanks for being here and we'll catch you tomorrow for. Oh, it's a three episode day. We've got Beverly Hills, we've got Rory, and we've got Ladies of London. Blockbuster Friday. Yep. Talk to you all later. Bye. Watch what Crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King.

[C]

All right, our way is the Amber way.

[B]

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