Ronnie (2:27)

Hi.

Ben (2:27)

I paused the NASA live stream to giggle with you boys. Well, thank you. I mean, what are they doing up there like in space? What are you going to find more space? Congratulations, we've got some here.

Ronnie (2:37)

Place has been somebody in space. Probably. Probably.

Ben (2:41)

Yeah, probably has.

Ronnie (2:42)

So welcome to very scandalous Crappy Hour. You know we did this two weeks ago and before we did not know all the Western Amanda stuff. So this is our first crappy hour since we have done that. So I'm sure a lot of you want to talk about that, which we will. Oh, there's a lot of stories. A lot of them. But before we get to that, let's get to some other stuff because I think that will probably take over and then the people who are sick of hearing about that shit can, can bounce Care. You won't bounce though. You're not going to. You said you're like, I'm so sick of hearing about West Weston Sierra and Amanda, you will still be here listening to every morsel. Because I'm sick of hearing about it, frankly. I'm totally sick of it. And I will still read every story that comes out on the Reddit. I read every. I'm another story that I have had it with these people who are the oh girl, what happened now I don't read them.

Ben (3:35)

I like it. I it's like a nice low stakes scandal for me. It's like, it's high stakes enough that we're all like, invested and we're all in it together, all holding hands together. Like, guys, we got this. But it's low stakes enough that I feel, I feel enthused by it. And, you know, like, we'd love a scandal that's unfolding real time as, as the show is airing. We, we just did, we did an interview for the Cut. Check it out. Their article came out, I think over the weekend, may or maybe today about, you know, this whole scandal and the role of podcasters and content creators in it. Shout out to all the other content creators that were referenced in the article. And one thing that we were talking about in the interview is just like how fun it is when we're seeing a show airing and it's presenting one narrative. But like the real narrative that we're seeing unfolding in real time is something else. And that's like the best thing. Honestly, I love that. So I'm all for this.

Ronnie (4:32)

We care so much. We came in twin shirts today. We're both in pink.

Ben (4:35)

Yes.

Ronnie (4:36)

Because it was Easter yesterday and Ben's very Easter centered. I I, he's a very Easter centered Jew. Jew.

Ben (4:43)

You dressed, you dressed in pinkish to celebrate Easter. I I dressed in pinkish salmon to celebrate the gravlax I made over the weekend for Passover.

Ronnie (4:52)

Yeah, I'm actually in a weird shirt. Look at it. It's like pink, but it has these waves and I just realized today that it's like a big frowny. It's like it's frowning my Shirt is frowning. And I thought, that's not very nice for Easter. But whatever, I wore it anyway. Whatever.

Ben (5:08)

Easter Bunny.

Ronnie (5:09)

What have you done for me lately?

Ben (5:11)

My friend Judy was talking about this New Yorker cartoon, I guess, where there's, like, a salmon that's like, looking at, like, paint swatches or something, because, of course, a cartoon. And it's like, what do you mean? This color is salmon? What do you mean? What do you. Which is funny if you think about it. Really is.

Ronnie (5:30)

I love some color humor. All right, let's get on with.

Ben (5:33)

Wait. Michael Horn says, by the way, breaking in the City trailer drops tomorrow.

Ronnie (5:37)

Oh, I've got even bigger breaking news. We have something to do for a bonus episode this week. Thank God. Okay. Yay, the city. Okay, we can all rip that apart second by second. Like, who? Are there any clues with any clues? So let's go through some of this news, shall we? There really is a lot of stuff. Summerhouse links here. I'm fast forwarding through some of those. Jen Shaw is out of prison and she gave a big, huge interview, I guess that nobody really cares about, including me, But I figured we should read through some of it because it might be fun. But I like that poor Jen, you know, she comes out of prison, nobody really cared, and then she gives a big interview, and still nobody really cared because only Amanda and West matter right now in the news. And Sierra, of course, bad timing. Like villains. The only vill matter in the news. I mean, Amanda and West have overshadowed Iran. Do you remember that? We're at war. Anybody? Okay. I thought so.

Ben (6:37)

No, it's like. Well, it's actually Amanda west are so big that my dad sent me a link today. The one that was in New York Times. They talked about a few days ago on the show. Like, did you see this? And then he's like, also the. This New York Times reporter said that this is like an organic scandal. Does he not re. Did they not realize what the role is of PR people and bloggers and podcasters are in these things? I was like, okay, dad, you should let them know. You should let them know. I was like, okay, okay, okay, dad,

Ronnie (7:03)

this scandal has no corn syrup.

Ben (7:09)

So, yeah, this interview. Yeah, that's bad timing. Just fell. It just. No one paid attention. No one cared. Like, this is just not where our heads are at right now. Especially because, like, we got a new Real Housewives of Rhode island that's premiering. We have latest of London, which is still all anyone can talk about. Honestly, people are talking a lot about Beverly Hills because The came to life. So everyone's just, like, talking about other things. And this interview, it just is like, I just don't think that we care. There's, like. There's other stuff that we're. We're whipped into a frenzy about right now. Jen Shaw. I'm sorry.

Ronnie (7:51)

Well, just to go through a little bit of it, Andy went on his radio show and said that he hates her. No, just kidding. He said, like, he's. He never wants to see her again on the show. How did she respond? And this is from People, by the way. She said that Andy. And he has a right to his opinion. And without me being able to, like, talk to him or without me being able to even speak at the time of all, you know, like, people rightly made their own judgments and had their own comments, but, like, with the legal process and between pleading and sentencing, you have to do so much work. And I was just directed by counsel not to get. Blah, blah, blah. She doesn't really give any interview and any answers. In this interview, they said, well, you know, Heather mentioned you're black Guy goes, oh, she sure did. And we need to talk about that. So, like, okay, so what's up with the black guy? She's like, well, Heather sure had a lot to say. I'm sure gonna. I need to call her. I need to call her about that. It's like, why are you even doing this interview if you're not even gonna address the black eye? That's, like, the least of your worries right now. But it would help me a lot if you would answer it, and I would love it.

Ben (8:57)

Yeah, that would be nice. And will she ever return to Salt Lake City? She's not ruling it out. She goes, I mean, never say never, right? I'm like, yeah, I don't know if that choice is in your hands right now, but that's. That's very adorable. She goes, I appreciate the show and the time I had on it because it did afford me a platform that I wasn't able to have before. And I guess right now at this time, anything is possible. Like, you know what else is possible? A job at Yogurt Land. Okay. That's probably the future for you.

Ronnie (9:26)

Oh, my God. At least give her a yogurt planet.

Ben (9:29)

I didn't even know there was a yogurt planet. This is like, yogurt galaxy. Next. Super yogurt galaxy.

Ronnie (9:37)

Yeah, I got a yogurt planet. Love it. Wow, it does smell a little like bar rot and sometimes, like, barf in there. But, you know, kids Love it. So what else? Something very serious. This is a very religious thing to post on a religious weekend. Taylor. Frankie Paul is leaving the Mormon Church. Is she still allowed in there? Isn't everybody kicked out after they do bad stuff? I thought that was a thing.

Ben (10:02)

They were like, ma', am, you can't stay in this church anymore. You've tried to throw all the pews at people, so we're gonna have to ask you to leave.

Ronnie (10:10)

You threw the pew at one of your exes, so I'm sorry, not allowed. But she gave a long Instagram post where she was like, you know, like, I'm still really religious, but, like, I'm. It's time for me to leave the church. Yeah, it's time. I'm out of here. The last 40 days felt like hell on earth. Through every panic attack, I prayed for strength as I could feel my body breaking down and out from the distress of it all. Imagine how those bar stools felt.

Ben (10:37)

Yeah. Yeah, seriously.

Ronnie (10:39)

Or the.

Ben (10:39)

The child that got hit by one of the bar stools. Yeah. So she's. She's out of there. I mean, that could be interesting on the show, you know, because they're all. The show is so much about like, you know, we're the new face of Mormonism. This is the new Mormonism. Although one of them is a former. Right? Isn't. Is it. What's her. Faith's. Jesse. Is Jesse former or.

Ronnie (11:03)

They're all in different stages, I think, of breaking up with the church because they're. I mean, listen, I love the new stage of Mormonism because it's basically drinking, doing drugs. Most of them are coked out of their mind. Swinging. What else do they do on that show that's really fun? Sodas. I mean, that's nothing. I love a soda shop. So really, they make Mormonism look fun again. I don't know why you would quit. You guys can finally do more than we can than anybody than any other religion. I mean, geez, who else gets to swing wasted?

Ben (11:36)

Well, they're all on the path to outer darkness and we wish them well. The other thing that sort of related to that is that I guess they had. I guess Hulu has to. Or had to edit Dakota out of Vanderpump Villa following domestic abuse things. And yeah, what a pain. Those poor post production people. Those poor post production people. What a pain in the ass to have to do that. And they have to go, he's such a dingbat. Like, he shouldn't have been there in the first place, to be honest.

Ronnie (12:10)

Well, they said in a statement, the producer said, well, he was in a storyline with somebody else and we thought it just be better to cut it. So I don't know what that means. Like, if he hooked up with somebody at the. What. What is it a villa? What is it on that show? I don't know. We quit. Well, now they're in season one.

Ben (12:26)

This season is in England, so maybe they're at a castle. Oh, welcome to the Vanderpump Villa castle stage.

Ronnie (12:33)

Yeah, but people are saying, oh, this might have some. Not this Vanderpump Villa, but they're saying this new news, this new clip might have something to do with an incident that happened in February, I guess between. That's when the other abuse incident happened where she was strangling him with a necklace, allegedly. Right.

Ben (12:53)

On Oscar night or something.

Ronnie (12:54)

Yeah, because he. We found out today he's. He's been shooting a show. I think it's a YouTube thing, but it's like some dating show on YouTube where he's like hooking up with girls and stuff. So, like, oh, guess we found out what's going on with Dakota. You know, Dakota and Taylor need to stop dating other people because they're only putting other people at risk from each other, you know?

Ben (13:17)

Yeah. And I think that, like, every time the Mormon wives, the cast of Real Housewives of Mormon Wives and Vanderpump Villa come together, bad things seem to be happening. So why don't we just, like, cross pollinate a different Hulu show with Vanderpump Villa? Like, I don't know, why don't we put on like, Project Runway? Because I watched my Project Runway on Hulu. That could be fun having like, Christian Siriano coming to stay at the Vil and lightning the Garcia, she's like, I like the room, I like the beds. I like the bar keeps.

Ronnie (13:55)

I love the waiters, I love the hookers. I love the cobblestone. So something super sad. I mean, sad. I guess it's sad because it involves children. So we should feel bad for the kids, even though there's Olsiak children. And we know that they're all going to be setting buildings on fire when they're of age. We all know it. And you guys say, I'm not being mean to kids. I'm being mean to these future adults who we know are going to cause taxpayers a lot of money. Okay? They're going to be setting cars on fire and they'll be doing all sorts of shit because they're Kim's kids. But this Week. There was a lot of stuff coming out, like, oh, my God, Kim. Kim might lose custody, and Croy is suing for custody of the kids and stuff like that. So he did. And she did lose custody. And it said she wouldn't get custody back until she went to therapy. And she came out with a statement, which was, so Kim, basically, they got taken because she was missing these therapies. She had to. She had to show up to therapy appointments to keep the kids. And she came out with a statement. And I'm trying to see. They don't have it in this article, so I'm just going to have to make it up. But it was something along the lines of, okay, let me just explain real quick, like, what's going on with me and my kids. Okay, I did not lose custody of my kids. Like, here's the thing. I had to go to therapy, but then the therapy dates were dates that I was out of the country shooting a reality show. So how am I supposed to show up to therapy? So, you know, I worked it out. So I'm going to go to therapy. I'll get them kids back or whatever. I should. What a Kim statement is that I couldn't make the therapy to keep my children because I was shooting a reality show. Yeah, but I'll get it back. What?

Ben (15:37)

I feel like she probably could have zoomed in. I'm just gonna put that out there. I'm sure you could zoom in for your therapy, but also it's like, well, I could be on a reality show where I'm going to a pretend party with Marco Josephs and various other reality stars, or I could have my children in my house. I chose the party with Margaret. Yeah.

Ronnie (15:59)

Basically, it's very Kim. So, you know, good luck to.

Ben (16:03)

Good luck to that. But I feel like that's the easiest obligation is to go to a therapy appointment. That's like, all you have to do to keep your kids. And I have to imagine you should be able to zoom in. And if you can't zoom in, I'm sure if you have an opportunity to go out of the country to get, like, work and to support your family, I'm sure you could, like, clear that with the courts or clear that with the therapist or whatever. I'm sure they would be amenable. I mean, I know bureaucracy is kind of bureaucracy and be like, you have to be here. But I feel like there probably was a workaround, and she just chose not to. She probably just tried to do the around and not the workaround. So, yeah, Kim Zolciak, she did the reach around, not the workaround. Kim Zolciak is always. She's killing it. She's always killing it.

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Ronnie (20:15)

So can I say I'm actually surprised by that one. How did you feel when you saw that news?

Ben (20:19)

I was a little bit surprised. I was like, huh? And then I moved on.

Ronnie (20:25)

They seemed like a friend. Like, they seem like friends. You know, they seem like a couple that would make it. I mean, I know that there was, like, all these allegations that she used to work for him as a bartender, and then she lies and says they met on some vacation somewhere and no one buys it, you know, but I don't care. It doesn't mean you won't last. And I thought that they seemed just like they had fun together and that they were friends. So.

Ben (20:48)

Yeah.

Ronnie (20:48)

I don't know. It's always hard for. For me when couples break up because I think being single until I die gives me this, like, view of other couples. Like, I just want to believe in them. I don't believe in it for myself, but I believe in it for other people. It's like when I see religious people praying, I'm like, that's so nice. Like, I don't believe in it, but I'm like, I'm so glad you could find that peace. And with straight, you know, not straight people, but, like, with couples, I Look at them. And I think that's so nice, but, you know, that's not for me. But I'm so glad they could, you know, find that piece of ass or whatever. And so I always believe that couples are going to stay together. I really do. And then they just don't. And I'm hurt. I'm the one who's left hurt.

Ben (21:28)

Well, you are the real victim here. And Debbie, in the comments says, I don't think we saw enough of Sign David to care. And I think that's actually very fair. Like, we. We saw glimpses, and they seemed happy. I think there were some little sarcastic jabs here or there, but, like, not enough. It's like I have a vague memory of that, that I feel like he made some joke about going somewhere for a vacation without her, but I. I don't. I don't remember. Like, I try not to go back in that space, but she wrote a statement on her stories. She. She did not use the typical serious joint statement font. She did not do, like, the, like, basically, the. This. God. I keep. My. My screen keeps, like, going to a full screen. There's, like, an ad that keeps on taking over. My entire screen is driving nuts. She didn't use the typical, like, Times New Roman font. She went with that, like, italicized, chunky, almost like a bubble font, but it's not. And she's like, thank you for the kindness, the grace and support that so many of you have shown me. I'm overwhelmed by all your messages, and it truly means more than you ever know. You're like cheese at a party. Something that I care deeply about. My heart is with my children, and my focus is on giving them as much stability and love as possible. Living life publicly isn't always easy, but it's a reminder that we should all lead with compassion. And you never really know what someone is navigating behind the scenes, especially if you don't show it on the reality show that you've been paid to do. Yeah. Yeah.

Ronnie (22:50)

I don't know. That's too long for me to read from psy, but, you know, good luck to you. Good luck to you crazy kids.

Ben (22:55)

Well, at least she has a storyline for this coming season, so that's something that I guess we can look forward to. The.

Ronnie (23:03)

Well, I can already tell you who's at fault. I can already tell you who's at fault in this divorce. Aaron. Aaron somehow made this happen. It's somehow Aaron's faults. I blame Aaron. So someone else who wants us to really have compassion this week is Janet Caperna. Guys, she's. She's out there and she's doing an interview with Us Weekly. And I don't know what the question was because they didn't show the question. They only show her answer. I'm assuming the question was, why do people hate your gut so intensely? What is that? I don't watch a show. So why do they? Why do they hate your guts? Let's just pretend I've never met you. Why did they not ask her, why are you always wearing brown or beige? I don't know. But they started with, why do everyone. Why. Why does everyone hate you? And she said, well, you know, Jason and I are very liberal people and we're very vocal about being very liberal. And I think that people, you know, they basically, she's insinuating that only Trumpies they hate her or it's because she's like such a good liberal that people don't like her.

Ben (24:10)

Girl.

Ronnie (24:11)

But then she found liberal people have TVs, too.

Ben (24:14)

But she explained what she was talking about. She said the question was actually about, like, why. It was really about, like, why don't Danny and. And Nia, like, like them?

Ronnie (24:26)

Why.

Ben (24:26)

Why things are bad. She said, actually, really what the question was about was about them. And they were talking about, like, we. Like, we'.

Ronnie (24:31)

About Danny and.

Ben (24:32)

Oh, yes.

Ronnie (24:33)

Oh, really? It has nothing to do with you walking around going, sexual assaulter, Sexual assaulter.

Ben (24:40)

She said that the issue is that because Danny never has never weighed on. Weighed in on anything publicly that was political. And the only time that he ever did was when Charlie Kirk was killed. And Danny, like, wrote something on Instagram and Janet was like, oh, I see where you stand. And she's like, yeah, I'm not down with that. And like, I don't think I can bridge with you because she's like, I'm super liberal and I'm not gonna be down for the Charlie Kirk of it all. So she explained that that's when she was saying, like, you know, like, well, we're liberal and some people, like, people are not gonna like us. When she was saying some people, she was sort of saying she was referring specifically to them, according to Janet in the. In the follow up. So, yeah, the Valley Chat, she was

Ronnie (25:28)

using that as kind of a weapon against.

Ben (25:30)

Well, she was doing some pe. I think she was saying, well, some people I'm not going to get along with because I'm too liberal. But it sounded like she was saying, well, some people are. Are not liberal. And so they're not gonna like me. But she was actually doing the some people vibe, I guess, according to her. But. Yeah, well, yeah. So it's great. It's always great when Charlie Kirk can liven up.

Ronnie (25:53)

A. Charlie Kirk is. He's lighting up bravo this week because Jen. Well, first I want to read this comment from Chelsea. I can't read Chelsea. Jesse. What does it say? Chelsea Jasmine. It says Janet in all caps. Janet was a registered Republican when she lived in Ohio. It's public record. Thank you. So it's just another hypocritical.

Ben (26:12)

Well, I don't know. I mean, people can. People can grow and learn and decide to. That they, like, oh, I don't know if I believe in this platform anymore. So I. That, that to me, is not like a super damning thing. I. In fact, I. I'm actually happy if she was and then became a Democrat. And that doesn't bother me at all.

Ronnie (26:33)

So someone said, you're hurting her child. Hilarious. Okay, so I was gonna say Charlie Kirk really lit up Bravo this week because Jen Pedronte's son was wearing some support Charlie Kirk shirt. I don't know what it said, but, like, some Charlie Kirk shirt. And so they're all pissed. Are you all surprised that Jennifer Pedronte is a big, big Charlie?

Ben (26:54)

She lives in Orange county and her son joined the military. And like, what? Like, why. Why are people surprised by this whatsoever? You know, the real surprise is that Tamara was actually posting some really liberal stuff over the past week with no. The no Kings march. She posted photos of her dad marching at, like, no Kings. She's like, that's my dad. And I think everyone's like, wait, Tamara is a liberal? Because Eddie seems very conservative. Coded. I don't know what Eddie stances. So people were. People were surprised that Tamara was liberal and then surprised that Jim Pedrante was conservative. So there you go.

Ronnie (27:33)

You don't know what Eddie stance is. Wasn't he wearing one of those black flag shirts last year? Yeah, like a thin blue line or something.

Ben (27:40)

Very much so. And. But I don't know if he. I just don't know if he has publicly come out on what his political affiliation is.

Ronnie (27:45)

Well, this is Bravo. So, like, going after everybody, every single person's political affiliation is like, gonna. Is it going to be playing Whack a Mole, basically. I love this comment, lmo. I love Ronnie still gets it wrong. I don't even know what you're talking about, but I support that comment.

Ben (28:01)

Look, and then, I mean, look, this is all a mess because then people like, you know, like, Jason defends corporations and working with comps claims. But then also, Janet went against Zach, and Zach is super liberal. But Zach is also friends with Michelle. Like, it's like, it's all over the map. Map. Is he friends with Michelle? No, he's friends with Jesse, but the whole thing is friends with Nia. So, like, it's. It's too. It's just. To be. To be honest, a lot of this stuff is actual when it comes to politics, and it comes to, like, personal politics or whatever. When it comes to reality tv, there's actually so many nuances and contradictions. It's actually a bit hard to parse. Just like, I think, actually kind of casually, honestly.

Ronnie (28:41)

Yeah. Look, I just say all politics aside, an. Okay, so keep shitting Janet. Okay, so what else is on here that you want to discuss? We should probably move to summer house pretty soon, eh?

Ben (28:54)

Yeah, I think it's time. I was like, I'm ready for summer house.

Ronnie (28:58)

I'm.

Ben (28:59)

I'm like, this has all been fun, but I'm ready. I'm ready.

Ronnie (29:02)

I'm like, ben, what do you want to talk about anyway?

Ben (29:05)

Okay, but you don't want to talk about politics anymore and how it.

Ronnie (29:08)

Having more Charlie Kirk stories.

Ben (29:10)

Charlie Kirk stories. They're great guys. Never gets anyone into trouble. By the way, someone said, I'm a Dem. Socialist and have friends who are pretty right wing. And I'm only. I'm only bringing this up because I thought it said I'm a d. Socialist. Like a special type of socialist who is also into Laura Dern. So I got really excited. Speaking of which, Mayor mom Donnie. This is a good transition. Mayor mom Donnie of New York City. Someone. Someone went up to him today and asked him to weigh in about this. The scandal, the summer house scandal. And he was very play. He's very smiley. He's like, yeah, no, someone was trying to explain to me. I couldn't quite follow it, but he got enough to know that Sierra was a nurse. He's like, well, she's a nurse and she's saving people, so team Sierra for that. I was like, smart. That's how you. That's how you sort of.

Ronnie (30:00)

Yeah. I'm a reporter. It's like, okay, okay, okay, okay. But bro, bro, bro, bro. What do you think of Kyle Cook? He's like, don't know him. He's like, bro, bro, lover Boys are good brands. All right, bro. All right. Have a good day, bro.

Ben (30:13)

Oh, my God. Yeah, it doesn't know who Kyle Cook is. Oh, Poor Kyle. Yeah. But it's now reached what I about to say. We. The scandal has now reached mayoral levels.

Ronnie (30:27)

Yeah. Next step, the governorship. This week, Kyle was very casually walking his dogs. Had no idea he was being gonna be interviewed. Summer House is like the least subtle of all of the reality stars, I find. He's like, yeah, he's having to be walking my dog, bro. And so he did a three part interview, you know, while he was just walking the dogs. And while he was doing it, they were saying, you know, how's the rest of the friend group doing? And he's like, oh, you know, like, I'm telling you, everybody really. I mean, Kyle's a man. A mess. Kyle's a mess. Or Carl's a mess. Carl's a mess. And so that turned into a new Carl meme. Carl's a mess. So they.

Ben (31:11)

Because everyone was like, why is Carl a mess?

Ronnie (31:15)

Because he's Carl. Of course. Carl's a mess. Really hurt me.

Ben (31:21)

Really hurt me a lot. I'm like really sad right now.

Ronnie (31:25)

Which turned into an Uber Eats ad with Carl sobbing in his house and Lindsay's there patting his. His arm going, is this soft enough for you? And they're like, uber Eats.

Ben (31:37)

The scandal brought them back together. They filmed together. Actually, it was. It was more like, you know, money. Money brought them together. But I'm glad that they understood the mission. They're like, we're gonna put aside our differences to sell stuff for Uber Eats. Okay. I was like, good for you guys. Get your bag.

Ronnie (31:54)

Dumas was posting stuff, you know, Jim was posting something every day about this. And she was. She posted something like, oh, Lindsay was at this playscape and she was overheard saying that the reunion's going to be on April 15th. And something else pretty non scandalous. I mean, it was like I saw Lindsay, I overheard her talking. She said, the reunion is April 15th. Lindsay had a fit about it and went on Dumois and was commenting like, this is not true. I was very busy at that place. Jenna is like a very active. And I was with my daughter and I never said that. And I don't even know the reunion is going to be on the 15th. So then she. Lindsay will make herself the center of any story, which, you know, you got to her. She just got this UberEats thing. And then today she came on with this video. I'm showing her picture now. She came on with the video, basically two and a half minutes of what I just told you. But in two and a half minutes, like, I cannot believe that someone would say, I said it was on the 15th. That it's not on the 15th. And then the only other thing that they asked me for was, like, whether west reached out to me, and he has not. But let me tell you, Gemma really loves to run and play. And I cannot believe people are. I'm so mad. I'm like, why are you so mad? Why does she mad.

Ben (33:13)

Reach out to her? Where did that come from? Like, why would Wes reach out to Lindsay and any of this?

Ronnie (33:20)

I don't know. I think she was just answering the question and saying he hasn't reached out to her.

Ben (33:25)

I see.

Ronnie (33:26)

But this picture of Lindsay, this is a video. I have it playing without the sound. So if you can't hear the sound, it's by design. Doesn't Lindsay kind of look like Ramona Singer? Like a young Ramona. Do you see it or is it just me?

Ben (33:40)

She's. She's on the way. She's on the way. Yes.

Ronnie (33:43)

And I saw this, and I immediately thought that. And I saw this on Reddit. That's obviously. You can see the web address there. And I. Someone said that, oh, my God, this is Ramona Singer. And people were like, how dare you look shame a woman. Well, who said Ramona's ugly? I'm not saying, like, no one said she was ugly. Is that look shaming to say someone looks like Ramona Singer?

Ben (34:03)

No.

Ronnie (34:03)

And also, how dare you? Okay.

Ben (34:07)

Also, you're like, we're watching Bravo together, and we're consuming a Bravo scandal together, and then suddenly we're gonna clutch our pearls about this. I don't think so. Sorry. Even if it is look shaming, I think there's worse. I just think there's worse things in the world to get mad at us about. Well, I don't think it's like, I'll tell. I'll take a looks shaming on the chin right now. I don't care. Hair.

Ronnie (34:24)

Yeah. Ramona Singer is ugly as hell, but only on the inside. I don't think it's ever been that she's attract unattractive.

Ben (34:30)

But, yeah, Ramona actually looks great, to be honest.

Ronnie (34:33)

Jesus. I'll have what she's having. If that's ugly, shame me.

Ben (34:37)

Shame me now. Avery. Anyway, the. What I was gonna say about Carl.

Ronnie (34:44)

Damn. The reason he says that is because Ramona put this picture of her and Avery up a few weeks ago. We showed it on here, I think. Think. And Ramona is all airbrushed and looks 10 years old, and Avery looks like she's in her 30s, you know, which I think she is. Right. And so she just looks kind of normal. But Ramona looks like she's 10 years old. It's like, why would you post this? And why would you let your mother post this? Do you not have mother blocks on her phone where you have. Do you need something where you can just enter the PIN number, you know, to let her post stuff?

Ben (35:14)

I know. By the way, though, like, I still cannot get over the fact that avery isn't. Is 30 now. Like, that's. That's really difficult for me. Like, she's locked in at 13 for me. But what I was gonna say about. There was something else about this scandal that I was. That was something that was about Lindsay. Oh, you know, I was gonna say about Kyle. What's so funny with Kyle is that when the rumors started happening and even when it broke, one of my first thoughts were, you know, you think about, like, first I think we all thought about the betrayal to Sierra. Like, that was first and foremost most. But then I thought, like, wow. Also, you know, he thinks secondarily of Kyle. But then, like, when Kyle did his interview, I thought to myself, why did I ever think that Kyle would ever, like, like, oh, my God. Wonder what Kyle must be so mad at. What's Kyle. Literally, I don't think Kyle gives a. I think Kyle is just happy to have Amanda of his life. This makes him look better. And on top of that, they. There were the paps caught Kyle and Amanda sort of reuniting. I think that he's actually probably been really, maybe helpful to her during this period because I don't think he's really that pissed. He's probably like, oh, Amanda, I can't believe you did that. You know, But I think he's probably being someone that she can maybe who could be, like, sympathetic to her right now. Not that she deserves or doesn't deserve sympathy, but it's just sort of funny to me how I. I can't believe for one moment I thought Kyle would potentially be like, a victim in this, but he's actually totally someone. Like, that's crazy, man.

Ronnie (36:44)

Kyle got straight to the merch shop and started creating merch right away. Righteous Gemstone said Kyle posted a picture of himself crying and the dog licking his tears.

Ben (36:53)

Lol. Oh, I did not see that.

Ronnie (36:56)

That's. That's why we have to discuss this stuff only on crappy hour. Because it doesn't even matter how much of this I read all week. You guys always have read 10 times more.

Ben (37:05)

Well, like, one hour ago. It's very exciting. But, like, one hour ago, Sierra Miller, she released a cryptic response that everyone's like, oh, my God. So let's see. I didn't even look at what the

Ronnie (37:19)

cryptic response was, but it says, she's very private.

Ben (37:25)

There's an image of Jesus, a drawing of Jesus with, like, a teddy bear behind Jesus's back. And Jesus is saying, just trust me. And then the little girl that Jesus is talking to says, but I love it. God. Here, I'll just share. I think I'm not real. What the.

Ronnie (37:45)

Is this some Christian thing that you just don't get? What is it? Send it over.

Ben (37:49)

It makes more sense if I show it there. See? So basically, the little girl has got, like a little teddy bear, and the little girl is like, like, I. I don't want to give this up because I. I love this. And Jesus is saying, like, no, like, Jesus, like, give me the little teddy bear because I'm about to give you something better. Like, trust in Jesus and you'll get something better.

Ronnie (38:08)

Oh, I see. And she's like, no, I don't. But I love mine. He's like, no, I'll give you a bigger teddy bear.

Ben (38:15)

Yeah, so I guess don't hold on to something so much because. Because something bigger is around the corner. Something like that.

Ronnie (38:23)

Yeah. But why does that little girl want that big ass teddy bear? That thing's gonna crush her today. Like, how's she gonna carry that thing around? It's bigger than she is. I think Jesus really needs to rethink his teddy bear game because that's too big.

Ben (38:34)

By the way, who is making the teddy bear that Jesus is giving away? Because they nailed it. Like. Like they've got Jesus as like an. Doing an influencer campaign for them. That's major. That's amazing.

Ronnie (38:45)

Can I just say, Jesus's hair looks so good. This is why he has so many followers.

Ben (38:52)

He's doing great work.

Ronnie (38:54)

I just love it. Do you think this question I put up, 20E. Blane Eve 28, says, do you all think Kyle and Amanda will get back together?

Ben (39:05)

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think that, like, let's not forget, like, I think he was. I think he's ready to move on. I think that now he's probably had a taste of the single life. And he's like, oh, yeah.

Ronnie (39:17)

Tasting the single life for a decade. What are you talking about?

Ben (39:20)

Guilt free single life. And I think he's like, oh, yeah, dj, let's have some fun. And she probably also is like, like, I think. Well, I. I think she just. She's got to go a little bit. The Raquel route of, like, doing some work on herself, disappearing for a little bit and figuring out why she thought west was the next best option. So I don't think that they're going to get back together. By the way, something that someone posted earlier. This is what I wanted to say. They said. They said Sher told Kiki Monique on her show that whenever I text Amanda, she never texts me back. But, like, whenever I text Kyle, he always texts me back anyway. Do you think they'll get back together? Ronnie?

Ronnie (40:06)

I wouldn't be completely shocked if they didn't go through with the divorce. I wouldn't be totally surprised if that happened. I think that, you know, this has been such hell that she's probably just like, I love you again. I mean, I don't know, but I wouldn't be shocked. I don't. I hate. I'm trying to not say I don't care. I really don't, though. I don't care if they do or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed together because they've got a lot tied up in their relationship. And I know these Bravo couples look at it like that, like, well, we have the show and then what are we going to do? And then what? What is our plot going to be for this thing? And, you know, Amanda likes to be at home. I don't. I don't know that Amanda's going to be into going out and dating and stuff, even though she's kind of just done that. But anyway, what is your favorite nickname that west has been given? Because there have been some right here.

Ben (40:56)

The one that you just put up on the screen that I never heard until right this moment. West td. That's so perfect.

Ronnie (41:02)

That is a very funny one. My favorite one I saw on Reddit. Of course, I don't have the name. I don't know who coined it, but the first time I saw it, I don't know whose name that was, but they call him Midwest and I love that. I think that's very creative, too.

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That's so good. That's so good.

Ronnie (41:22)

That's a good one.

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Ben (44:31)

I was gonna say, are you going to leaving Summer House or.

Ronnie (44:34)

No, no, no, no. Just going through these Summer House. We've got a ton of Summer House things here.

Ben (44:38)

There's one from today that says, you know, Carl's a mess, but he's filming post Scamanda. What is Carl Radkey filming? It's also hilarious because all these outlets are really grasping onto anything, but Carl posted a selfie with a green screen in the background, so he's definitely filming something. And I think that people were like, is. Is Summer House picking up the cameras? Is in the city picking up the cameras? And we're trying to figure out what it's going to be. I think it'd be on in the city because I think Bravo will want to, like, move eyeballs over there. I think.

Ronnie (45:08)

I think so. Yeah.

Ben (45:09)

I think that's where if they do pick things up. But then taste of reality, you know, taste reality. I love you guys, but you guys gotta, like, rein it in because they have it. Then this question that they ask, could a soft bar spin off be in Carl's future? No, we're not doing Vanderpump rules at Soft bar. It is not happening. It's physically impossible to make a good TV show about that place. Yeah, yeah.

Ronnie (45:32)

We haven't even been there, but I know they're not going to do it in a tiny coffee bar. I agree with you. I mean, who knows? I just can't see Carl leading a show. Oh, hey. Oh, we need to have a talk. Like, I saw the way you're making that latte and, like, we really need to discuss it. Do you know what a latte is? Tell me all the ingredients.

Ben (45:54)

Villa Blanca is where you bring your wife, sir is where you bring your mistress. And soft bars where you bring someone to put your weight on them. And then

Ronnie (46:04)

I just love that everybody is going and making so much money off of this. Like, everybody is finding a way to profit off of it or do a commercial or sell merch or do whatever. And meanwhile, Sierra, who's the center of all of it, is like, posting, you know, okay, here's how you can help Girl Scouts in order to help, like, homeless shelters or something like that. Or, you know, she's. She's just doing, like, all of this charity work and everybody else is just going to profit off of her math back. Geez.

Ben (46:33)

I think they also learned. They learned from, like, vanderpump rules about, like, what to do and what not to do and how to do it. I mean, they all saw all the. The swag that they sold for something about her. And so I just think that, like, they're trying to figure it out. Jesse Solomon, now he's going on a press tour because he just released his, like, his new album or it's. Or he's going to be releasing an album. So he's doing. He just recorded on Gia Giudice's podcast. Podcast. And it's just that they released this video of the two of them just like, singing their way through the hallways of Iheart and. Except not singing, but lip syncing to his song. And I have to hear. I gotta play it because it's.

Ronnie (47:11)

Just play it, play it, play it. I've only watched Silent and it was still horrible. So my ears.

Ben (47:18)

Okay, I'm gonna share. Let me share the screen. Okay. Okay, sharing the screen, Everyone. Window. Okay, share.

Ronnie (47:27)

Oh, someone says Sierra did hook up with Kyle for merch. Oh, thank you, Amy. Okay, everybody has got something to say.

Ben (47:38)

How do any of us figure out where we're meant to be? Guess I'll start.

Ronnie (47:47)

Me and me.

Ben (47:49)

Juan thinks that. Okay, everybody. It's awful. It's awful.

Ronnie (47:59)

I think I'll start being me.

Ben (48:02)

Have you.

Ronnie (48:03)

Who have you been?

Ben (48:05)

Who are you? Jesse Solomon.

Ronnie (48:06)

I think I'll start being teeth.

Ben (48:11)

It's just, like, beyond terrible dental chair music. It's just, just, just. It's the saddest, saddest music. It's music that make Michael Buble go, ooh, it's a little boring. I'll just be me. Oh, jeez. Oh, gosh.

Ronnie (48:33)

It's like a child's shampoo commercial. Like, the shampoo won't make your child cry, but the song will. Okay.

Ben (48:40)

It's like a song that would play on the hotel channel. You know? Know. It's just not good. Not good.

Ronnie (48:45)

So some of the news that's come out. Let's see here. This was from April 1st. Oh, does that mean it's a lie? I hate April 1st. April fools. Just leave me alone. I fall for, like, literally every lie. It would say if it was April Fools, right?

Ben (49:00)

Yeah.

Ronnie (49:01)

Okay, so West. West Wilson was in an exclusive relationship with another woman when he was in A secret romance with his summer house co star Amanda. Man, Amanda's already been cheated on again, girl. According to our source, Wilson was actively dating Meha Moreno, who was publicly. Mija Moreno, who has publicly been referred to as Montana girl as recently as last week. Moreno, who has since moved to the east coast, has met and interacted with Wilson's family and close friends. Well, we know that doesn't mean anything. So did Sierra, and the two became exclusive in the fall winter of 2025. Wow.

Ben (49:41)

Yeah.

Ronnie (49:41)

Well, man, that's. So he cheated on this girl and Amanda at the same time.

Ben (49:46)

So he. There is official cheating. That's happening. The. But the sad part is. What is just knowing how many more girls are still going to throw themselves at west. You just know it's gonna happen.

Ronnie (49:56)

Yeah. And it's like, he's got that Bravo ass pass.

Ben (50:00)

He does. I'm just. Yeah, There she is. Ms. Montana. Or her name is. What's her name again? Montana. They call her Montana.

Ronnie (50:08)

Meo. I think it's me. I don't know. That sounds like my son, doesn't it? I don't know.

Ben (50:16)

She said you pronounced it.

Ronnie (50:18)

Let's pronounce it. Let's pronounce it like a million times. How does it. What is that?

Ben (50:21)

Miha. Mija. According to people in the comments.

Ronnie (50:26)

Okay, sorry. Okay. Look at her. Gorgeous. Look at this. Him. Dork.

Ben (50:31)

I know.

Ronnie (50:32)

Look at her. Gorgeous. Come on.

Ben (50:35)

He was wearing her tie. That tie. I think she got him that tie. And she was. He was wearing that when he was on Watch what happens Live two weeks ago, right before this all.

Ronnie (50:43)

I believe she makes. She makes them or something. So she makes. She creates those. I read. So who knows, guys? Who knows? Yeah.

Ben (50:54)

Yeah. He's just. What a pig. I'm just, like, so dreading the reunion of him. He's gonna be sitting there, he'll be hunched over. He'll be like.

Ronnie (51:02)

I don't.

Ben (51:03)

I mean, I don't know really what happened, but, like, you know when the heart wants something and you can only get shut down by Sierra so many times where you just have to, like. Like, go after what you want? And, like, I'm sorry to hurt her, but, like, I had to do it for me. And like, a certain point, like, why is it okay that she gets to look out for her own heart, but I can't look out for my heart? And I just know. I don't mean it that way. I just, like, I just didn't. I don't know how to say it to her. I Just like, she's scary and like, I don't know what to do. Like, that's what's going to be the entire reunion, right?

Ronnie (51:31)

Yeah, entire reunion. Like, what? But she said she didn't like me and I didn't want to hurt her, so I. Amanda.

Ben (51:40)

Oh, Abby, in the comments. Oh, I was just going to say real quickly, Abby from the comments says that he took Summer House off his RG account bio.

Ronnie (51:49)

You know, I read that, but I don't think he had it on there. I think he only had. He's only had at Bravo on there. And the only reason I think that is because I went there to look at that last year and I was like, oh, he doesn't have Summer House on there. But I don't know if that's a faulty memory. And let me tell you something we can all agree on on this show. I have a faulty memory. It's true. I don't remember anything, so I don't know. Maybe that's true. Wasn't there, like, a nude video that. That I heard that there was a nude video that was sent to Sierra that was her and Amanda and Kyle hooking up. No, not Amanda. Kyle. Damn it. Amanda and west hooking up and I guess his apartment. And someone videotaped it from another window and, like, posting it places. What the hell?

Ben (52:35)

And, like, what I heard was, I mean, there are all these different accounts, which is crazy, by the way. People need to, like, have some standards in their lives. But I think the thing was that, like, they reached out and told Sierra, but they didn't send it to Sierra. Because I think if, like, sending it is just like, that could be like, revenge porn or something like that. So I think what. I think the rumor that I read on one of these articles is that Sierra met with this person and the person showed the video and Sierra was like, oh, my God.

Ronnie (53:07)

Oh, my gosh. But, like, why is Sierra somehow obtained a video that allegedly showed Amanda and West being intimate in his apartment? This would be an upsetting way for anyone to find out. What's more disturbing is that this video was supposedly recorded without the couple knowing.

Ben (53:23)

Yeah, that's like, you. Like, who is doing this? Like, that's. I'm sorry. I think that's like, a total violation.

Ronnie (53:30)

I mean, with Bravo watchers, that's for sure.

Ben (53:33)

I know that's. That's true. Clearly.

Ronnie (53:37)

I'm looking through this real quick to see if there are any final stories that we've missed here. I'm sure there's like, a ton of them now. But it's time to go to audience parts participation time. So if you guys have anything that you want to tell us, share it with us in this audience participation moment. We'll bring you up on screen for everybody listening on audio. Thank you so much for being here. We love you guys and we will talk to you next time.

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