Michelle Collins (2:42)

I don't know. I don't have. I don't know if there's much to announce. I went to Reza stations. What'd you say?

Ronnie Karam (2:49)

Pregnancies, devastation.

Michelle Collins (2:51)

No pregnancies here. I went to Reza's book sign. He has a new book out called Memoirs of a Gay Shaw, which it's a very funny pun for a book, I have to say. That was at the Grove and so I went to that and I just have to say, you know, when Reza did his stand up on Shaza Sunset, it was famously so awful. And to this day we are constantly, you know, citing it where he's like, like when people are driving, be like so slow. It was just like so cringy. But I have to say, I have to give props to Reza and I felt like compelled to do this because we've been on his, like, stand up for, for 10 years or so and he was so funny at his book signing. He was so funny. I was like, oh, I can see why someone said you should do stand up. And then I see why. Also you fell for the trap because of course Bravo is only going to show your worst parts. But he was really funny, so I don't know why I felt really comfortable.

Ronnie Karam (3:46)

Was he doing stand up or was he.

Michelle Collins (3:48)

No. Reading stories like. So Crystal was the moderator and Crystal Kong Minkoff and she was the moderator and he was telling these stories from his time largely on Shaza Sunset. And. But like, the stories, the way he would tell them were so funny and he had like, literally the whole room cracking up. So it was, I don't know, I felt like compelled to be like, you know, like, wow, Reza was funny, guys. Reza was funny. So there you go.

Ronnie Karam (4:19)

Well, there you go. Memories of a geisha.

Michelle Collins (4:22)

Memory of a geisha. Congratulations to Reza.

Ronnie Karam (4:25)

Yes. Okay, let's get to it. Summer House. Here we go. Season 10 episode 10. It's called tea Time. This is an episode about men. It's about men and how men feel things. Deeply.

Michelle Collins (4:40)

Yes.

Ronnie Karam (4:40)

Very, very deeply, guys. So let's get ready for a man feelings. Heavy episode of Summer House.

Michelle Collins (4:46)

It's about men and how they feel things. But it's also about one specific woman who's very excited to join the cast of Summer House and she can't contain herself. Good God, that Sabrina girl. Wow. She's ready to go.

Ronnie Karam (5:04)

Sabrina is ready. She's ready to go. She eats a lot. And she forgot her plot. I mean, babe, we've been setting up this whole season that Ben has not been dating you. He only dated you for a second. You fell in love too fast. Then he, quote unquote, broke up with and came into the summer house totally single, has not been with you, just decided to get back with you this week. You can't come in here basically spilling the beans that you've been with him this whole time. And then he told me this, and then he told me that, and then he told me that you have been with this man the whole time, you fucking liar. I love it. I love that she blew up Ben's spot immediately.

Michelle Collins (5:43)

Yeah. Right away. But speaking of spots, we're at Lindsay's spot. We're still at her housewarming party. For some reason, it feels like we've been here for four weeks, but it's actually only the second episode would be. And we're here, and Bailey, as Dara, has just confronted Bailey about maybe stirring up some drama about her. And Dara is saying, you know, like, it was really weird. I had just gone to the summer house, and the energy was just, like, a little bit weird. Bailey was. I mean, KJ was hiding himself in the refrigerator. He was literally opening up the crisper and putting his foot inside, hoping he could shrink down in a moment and get right in there and hide behind a lettuce leaf. And I was like, what is going on with you, kj? It's just a little weird for me.

Ronnie Karam (6:24)

And where does me and my lack of the ability to flirt come into this? And Dara's like, well, you'd mentioned to Lindsay. Then when I was there that weekend, I was, like, alone in Ben's room for, like, an hour. She goes, well, were you not in Ben's room? She goes, well, I mean, like, I'd gone into his room because they put my suitcase in the room. So, like, I basically changed out of my costume. And, you know, he did duck in at one point. So they changed this a little from last week because last week it ended with her saying, were you not in Ben's room? And she said, no, not at all. So I was like, well, is she a liar or what? Because I. I wouldn't figure her for a liar. But then we come back this week, and they, of course, change the editing, but she's still a damn liar. She still lied.

Michelle Collins (7:03)

Right?

Ronnie Karam (7:04)

So. And yes, I guess There is a liar. That's. That is the answer.

Michelle Collins (7:08)

Yes. And so Bailey's like, oh, so the whole rhetoric. I like that she says the whole rhetoric was that you guys did this. The whole rhetoric that you started, like it was what you said, not the whole. It wasn't like this was happening in pop culture. The whole rhetoric was that you and Ben were flirting. And I didn't tell anybody you guys hooked up or anything because I don't know what happened in that room or didn't happen in that room. I just happened to advertise the fact that you went into a room for an hour and came out in a different outfit, possibly had sex. I didn't say the sex part, but possibly you did have sex.

Ronnie Karam (7:37)

Well, they show the scene of. They show a flashback of the scene so that we know that, that she's lying. And she's in the entryway and she has her suitcase. And Ben's like, well, what's going on? And she says, I'm going to change into my normal people clothes. You want to help me? And he's like, sure. Where are you going? And she goes, I guess the bathroom. And he goes, there's room down here. So she put her, she's the one who put her luggage in Ben's room. I don't know. This is all fascinating. Well, we're just going over, you know, tiny stuff that happens in every scene on Summer House now.

Michelle Collins (8:07)

Just had to add that.

Ronnie Karam (8:08)

But yeah, Bailey's like, whatever, I don't know what happened in there. And Dara says, well, you know, like in the moment, it's like, you know, KJ got his feelings hurt twofold because one, I got defensive because I was like, well, we didn't hook up and I just, I was testing the waters. And she goes, well, you have every right to do that. That, you know. And she's like, I'm sorry, I would never try to hurt your new relationship with someone who's obsessed with refrigerators, you know, Sorry.

Michelle Collins (8:35)

Yeah, I, I would never try to sabotage your relationship. And she's like. And Bailey's like, you know, there just was like very clearly like a Ben and Dara moment happening. And then all of a sudden you were dating kj and I was like, what's happening? Because we forget there have been, I feel like there have been so many episodes and so much off screen drama that it's only been like one week since Dara came to the house and like met Ben. And so basically, Cage, what Bailey saying is like, yeah, one weekend it seemed like, you were flirting with Ben. And then I come back, and all of a sudden, you're dating KJ really intensely. So I was like, whoa, what's going on? She's like, I thought they were vibing, right? And, like, you know, and. And I thought they were in love. And, like, look, she's like, I may be. I may be dramatic, but I'm not a liar. I mean, I might fluff it a little bit, but I would never lie. Like, but fluffing is kind of lying, but that's okay. So Dara's like, yeah. I mean, like, I was. I was having, like, a flirty day. Like, that's all it was. I was having a flirty day because I was testing the waters. Well, I'm glad that you can admit that, because Ben said that you weren't flirting, and he said there was nothing. And so now Dara gets upset. Dara gets upset that Ben won't admit that they had chemistry. And I like that. So basically, the situation of Dara's whole concern is, I am so mad that my relationship with KJ is being undermined by the fact that Ben can't admit that we have chemistry.

Ronnie Karam (9:55)

Yeah. One minute she's. She's like, how dare you say that I was in there, like, flirting with Ben. I wasn't. I was just changing clothes. What do you mean? Ben says, he's not flirting with me.

Michelle Collins (10:06)

We have definite chemistry.

Ronnie Karam (10:08)

She changed it really quick. She's like, well, don't insult me. I mean, that's insane. And she's, okay, well, thank you. So then we see the flashback to last weekend on the porch with Ben Bailey and Amanda west and Jesse. And Bailey's like, you know, I think Ben and Dara may have fallen in love. And Amanda's like, did you fall in love with her? And he's like, no, we were just drinking and playing games, and that was it.

Michelle Collins (10:31)

So Dara's like, I just feel like that day was just, like, fun, and it's fun, flirty day. And so for Ben to say that we didn't have chemistry, it's just so odd. I mean, what a strange thing to need to lie about. Oh, my goodness. I am so mad. And I can't believe that Ben denying our chemistry might. Might undermine my new chemistry with kj. So silly.

Ronnie Karam (10:51)

They're just like, we're new. We need something to happen. Now let's make this happen. I can do this. I can do this. So now Ben walks in with this lady he's been dating, and Dara's like, oh, speak of the devil. There's Ben. And he's like, hello, everybody. This is my completely just got back together with girlfriend Sabrina. And Lindsay's like, hi. And say, oh, my God. Hi. I've heard the best things about you. Oh, my God. These are for you, Lindsay. They're flowers. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much for having me in your home. Is that a piano? Know that that girl is the type of girl to go start banging on somebody's piano. And that's I'm playing chopsticks.

Michelle Collins (11:36)

Oh, a hundred percent. She's like, I love piano. Oh, my God. Lindsay, I got you a sandwich. Here's the sandwich. I know you love sandwiches so much. I hope you enjoy it. Thank you so much for having me in your home. You seem so wonderful. I love everything I hear about you. It's like, whoa, Sabrina.

Ronnie Karam (11:54)

Now we go back to Darren Bailey. And Bailey's like, well, I'm sure that he's gonna say that he never said any of that, that I'm being dramatic, but whatever. No, no. If he wants to rewrite history that he was never interested in me, then by all means. He hasn't met boxing Tara.

Michelle Collins (12:10)

Well, he just downplayed, and I was like, that's not what was happening. He was interested in you. They all were. Yeah. You know what? They all get our feelings hurt when you get rejected. So then we go back to Sabrina, and she's like, now she's going up. She's talking to, like, Jesse and Kyle. She's like, oh, my God, I've been dying to meet you. I heard you were just the coolest. Jesse, I hear you sing so good. Like, oh, my God. Like, so great to meet you.

Ronnie Karam (12:35)

Oh, my God. And you, Kyle.

Michelle Collins (12:37)

Wow.

Ronnie Karam (12:38)

And he's like, so. Just is like, so when did you guys meet? She goes, we met in March. Dan's like, and then after that, reconnected. Right, right. And then here you are. Right. Because we march. But then many, many months passed, and then here you are again. Righteous. Yeah, here we are. Where else would we be, Ben, we're here. We're here. Looking at the Kyle cook. Lover boy, you are so great. I love your commercials. I mean, I've never seen a commercial. Well, every time you're on tv, it's a commerc commercial, basically. You're so good. What happened to your mullet? I loved your mullet. I wish you had your. So I could, like, take a little clip of it, put in my purse.

Michelle Collins (13:14)

Congrats.

Ronnie Karam (13:16)

Love that mullet.

Michelle Collins (13:16)

Congrats. On your JD Vance meme. That is so funny because you are like, you're 43. You're older than the vice president, but you look so young. Oh, my God, you're so famous.

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Offer is valid for limited time terms and conditions apply. So Ben is like, when I reached out to Sabrina to let her know that I'm thinking of her, she was very open because she was sitting right next to me in bed. We just woken up together and so I said, yeah, I feel pretty special, you know, you know, you know that she was willing to give me another chance because basically I said, hey, I'm on summer house now. And then like there was a dust cloud and she appeared at my front door. So it was pretty amazing. And but now I'm really nervous because look at me, I'm, I'm nervous. Ben. I'm shy. Ben, remember this storyline, guys, it's back. I'm sure and I don't know what to say in these situations.

Ronnie Karam (17:21)

Yeah, Jesse's like, well, I mean she's pretty nice and I like her energy but you know, just don't hung up on like how quickly they're jumping back. I mean, I thought they'd probably been hooking up this whole time. And then Ben said he wasn't seeing anybody when he has a secret girlfriend. I mean, potentially. I mean, that's a good theory. It's a good theory.

Michelle Collins (17:43)

Even Jesse is onto it. Although Jesse's not anyone who's allowed to talk about people moving too quickly into things.

Ronnie Karam (17:49)

So Mia, Jesse, Jesse and West, the two fakest phoniest like doing this for a storyline. Guys, on this show they can, you know, takes one to no one. Yeah.

Michelle Collins (18:01)

So Mia's boyfriend Scott is there. They all meet Scott, and Mia's happy because, you know, he's always traveling and she's always, you know, everyone's always like, where's Scott? Where's Scott? Where's Scott? She's like, he's in la, he's in Miami, whatever. So it's, like, really exciting to have him there. And she's like, oh, my God, I feel like a normal person. I feel like I'm in a normal relationship. And then we see Lindsay and Dara and Levi and Bailey. Poor Levi. This is, I feel like, gonna be the last time we see her. Because normally when people don't show up to the summer house, they at least get the perfunctory, oh, she has a wedding. Oh, she has. No, this week when they go back to the house, they don't even explain where Levi is. Levi's just. She's just faded into our memories at this point. This is the end, guys.

Ronnie Karam (18:47)

Just taking the I out of your name. Now you're just leave. So Lindsay's like, every time I see the three of you talking, there's like hands flying, like, what was the drama over there? And she's like, oh, we're just talking about boys. And, oh, by the way, everybody, I went to lunch with Carl. A totally believable storyline. Now someone who's totally not doing something for a storyline. I went and had lunch voluntarily with Carl. Very exciting person. And Lindsay's like, two thumbs down. Two thumbs down. Two thumbs down.

Michelle Collins (19:19)

She's like, oh, that's so funny, because that's what I told Carl on our date. Oh, well, not really a date, but I said, this is what you think of him. And I did the whole thing. It was hilarious. Yeah, okay, well, that's fine. Like, I hope you're enjoying it. And basically, Lindsay was. We seen the flashback that Lindsay told Bailey, yeah, go on a date with Carl. Like, you should. Like, he needs it.

Ronnie Karam (19:38)

She said, I love you. I don't want to date your ex fiance. That's crazy. And she's like, I do not care. So now Lindsay's like, well, have you been out since then? And she goes, well, we've been texting, but no. And so they agree. The ball's in his court. And Lindsay's like, you should send him a sexy nude photo.

Michelle Collins (19:57)

Lindsay. Stripes. Stripes, yes.

Ronnie Karam (20:01)

Tan lines. All tan lines.

Michelle Collins (20:03)

Nothing but tan lines. So Bailey's like, this is. That's crazy. So then Dara and KJ And Dara, Darren, KJ Are enjoying a drink together,

Ronnie Karam (20:14)

which is a fascinating scene. This is. I mean, the chemistry is just crazy here. So she goes, hi, can I have a sip of the drink? And he's like, I haven't even sipped it. You haven't? No. But go ahead. You can sip it. But do you want to. Ladies first. Oh, my God.

Michelle Collins (20:30)

Just.

Ronnie Karam (20:32)

They're gonna write a book about these two, I'm telling you right now.

Michelle Collins (20:35)

Wow. Ben's chemistry could never even compete. So Sierra's talking to Kyle, and she's like, how are you doing? Your chest is out tonight. He's like, I asked Amanda. I'm like, is it too much? He's like, no. She's like, well, yeah, we're in New York, and speaking of Amanda, now she's talking to me and Scott, and Amanda's like, oh, my God, Kyle, we're all gonna go on a date together. Me and Sierra, me and Scott, and then you can come. He's like, oh, fifth wheel. No, no. Like, he. Because he thinks that Sierra is the fifth wheel, but the couples. And she's like, no, you're the fifth wheel, Kyle. He's like, that's funny. That's real.

Ronnie Karam (21:12)

So Kyle's like, yeah, I'm in pretty high Spears because Amanda and I agreed to go to couples therapy, so things should work out. So we see a flashback to Kyle saying, how come we're not putting in the work? Would you go to couples therapy because you're gone six months in a row? She's like, yeah. So Kyle's like, yeah, something like, had a literally break for us to agree to go to couples therapy. Like, I'll take the full responsibility of breaking it. Like I said, you. I feel horrible, but. But it's always the Carl but the Kyle butt. I'm feeling hopeful. We're gonna make the most of the weekend. So then Carl is now with Bailey, Ben, and Sabrina chatting, and he's like, oh, hey, Billy. Can I get a hug?

Michelle Collins (21:57)

Yeah.

Ronnie Karam (21:58)

Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. Okay, okay. Softer, please.

Michelle Collins (22:03)

It's a little softer.

Ronnie Karam (22:04)

No, no. A little.

Michelle Collins (22:05)

A little harder.

Ronnie Karam (22:05)

I can't feel you now. Okay. Oh, God. Oh, God, my toes are about to pop out of my mouth. I can't even feel that.

Michelle Collins (22:12)

I can't feel it. A little harder now. A little bit harder now. A little bit softer now.

Ronnie Karam (22:20)

A little bit harder now.

Michelle Collins (22:21)

A little bit harder now.

Ronnie Karam (22:24)

You make me. You make me want it. What is that? You make me want. Make me wanna soft.

Michelle Collins (22:31)

Shout softly, though. You know I call you Know what I call talking soft? Soft shutting. Oh. So Bailey, they're talking about, you know, drinks, whatever, and Carl's got like a virgin margarita, etc, and it's like, so last weekend I had my little scooter and I had my outfit on. Wasn't that crazy? Oh, you should see this photo. Here's a photo of me as an old man. And she's like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, I stuffed my underwear with some functional mushrooms. So enjoy.

Ronnie Karam (22:59)

Yeah, you know, Bailey's beautiful and she's like, very funny and she's got a great personality, but, like, I'm still taking it slow. And the voice in the back of

Michelle Collins (23:07)

my head is like, put your weight on me.

Ronnie Karam (23:10)

Put your weight on me. He wants to be careful hooking up in the house. So then we see a clips of Carl just, you know, over the years making out with the twin and then fighting with the twin. Then a twin throwing a watermelon at him and then making out with Paige in a pantry, which I'm sure Paige loved. She's like, oh, my God, please just leave me alone. Paige accusing him of only taking her out Friday through Sunday.

Michelle Collins (23:40)

Yeah. And so we just basically get like all of Carl's greatest hits. Just. Just in case anyone forgot that he. Carl does have a strong background in being a fuckboy. And, like, people did forget. People do forget.

Ronnie Karam (23:54)

Like, people have totally forgotten. They're like, oh, my God, Carl. Why isn't Carl on in the city? Because Carl doesn't have anything going on, okay? That is why Carl is not on in the city. But don't worry, he's gonna try and he's gonna try and make it happen today, so God bless him.

Michelle Collins (24:11)

So now Sabrina, she hits the mother load. She gets to finally meet Sierra, and she's as chill as you can im. Oh, my God, I've been dying to meet you. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're just stunning. You're so beautiful. Oh, my God. I heard the best things about you. Like, you're so good. Oh, my God. He told me all about you, and I was just like, she is my person. But, like, no, seriously, you obviously are, like, so aesthetically beautiful, but, like, internally, you're like a star. And, like, I'm very sensitive to energy. And you were so good on the traitors. I just wanted you to win. Why did they do that to you? Okay. I'm so sorry about those graveyard things. That was, like, so unfair. Like, why did they just assume that, like, one of you guys was a traitor? It wasn't didn't have to be that way. Like, so when I meet someone, I'm obsessed with it. Like, it doesn't happen often. I'm just like, you're a star. You're a star. Oh, my go. We already best friends. This is working out so perfectly.

Ronnie Karam (24:53)

You're so amazing. Like, internally, too. Like, I'm so into your larynx. It's like,

Michelle Collins (25:02)

oh, my God. I just did an emotional colonoscopy on you, and it's beautiful in there.

Ronnie Karam (25:08)

Your digestive track is sparkling. Sparkling. She's like, okay, okay. Can I cut off a piece of your hair? No, you cannot. Please back away from me. So Lindsay's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Everybody, hi. It's me, Lindsay. I have a piano now. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, everybody, you can sit down. Okay. I really hate giving speeches. The editors are like, yeah, right? So they put in clips of Lindsay giving speeches. Clink, clink, clink, clink, clink. So now we get clips of Lindsay giving speeches over the years. So everybody basically braces for the next 20 minutes of their lives.

Michelle Collins (25:48)

I'm just, like, excited to start the next chapter of my life with Gemma girl in this big, beautiful palace that I have for, like, my little princess. We're gonna shoot a lot of great scenes for the spin off, and maybe some of you will be lucky enough to be in it. Yvonne, I'm looking at you, girl. Can't wait to fight with you. Anyway, just a new energy for everyone. And, you know, for everyone who's been in my last apartment, which I once shared with my ex fiance, it's like, cut to Carl, be like, oh.

Ronnie Karam (26:12)

Oh, ok.

Michelle Collins (26:15)

Thanks.

Ronnie Karam (26:16)

Yeah.

Michelle Collins (26:18)

Wait, who's the ex? Scott goes, who's the ex fiance? He's like, standing right next girl. I was like, who's that? He's. Oh, sorry. It's Carl.

Ronnie Karam (26:26)

Yeah. But I do have a lot of old friends here, and I have a lot of new friends here and one extremely old ex fiance. Who's over there. That's Carl. He looks old. That's Carl, by the way. Everybody.

Michelle Collins (26:36)

Right there, y'. All, It's. It's me. Oh, put your weight on me.

Ronnie Karam (26:41)

Carl, I'm so glad you got up the stairs because you couldn't get it up for the last two years I was with you. So that's Carl, everybody. That's Carl.

Michelle Collins (26:51)

All right, well, I guess we'll disregard the fact that I got your daughter a book about New York City because she was born in New York City, so fine.

Ronnie Karam (27:01)

Yeah. But anyway, thank you for being Here, everybody. And that's it. They're like, what? That's a Lindsay speech. Is she feeling okay? My God. So Carl leaves. He's like, oh, I gotta go. Oh, I gotta go. Pretend I didn't hear that.

Michelle Collins (27:19)

I couldn't get it up for two years.

Ronnie Karam (27:20)

Okay, see you later, baby. It's a long day. It's off tomorrow.

Michelle Collins (27:25)

Long day. Soft. So she's like, oh, my God, I touched him. I touched Carl. Physical contact, engaged. Levi's like, that was good. You know, that was really good. Flirting. Bailey. That meant Levi. That was Bailey. I mean, I'm Levi. I'm so confused. I'm drunk. And Bailey's like, I just want to eat shrimp and die alone. This is too much for me. I can't handle it. Levi's like, yeah. So Scott leaves too. And then Bailey invites Sabrina to come join them. And Billy goes, hey, do you want to come join the girls? Yes. Yes, yes. Some people I know. Oh, my God, I'm such a big fan of yours. You really are it girl. Oh, my God, does that mean I'm an it girl too? Are we it? Are we they girls? Like, what is this? Oh, my God.

Ronnie Karam (28:06)

Hi, I'm Dara, by the way. I bully men for fun. So we're just letting men think about being crybabies. What do you think about that? She's like, oh, my God, it's so good to cry. I love crying. You know, last time I cried, season finale last year, wasn't that so sad? I was like, are they coming back? Oh, God, I hope these friendships can repair each other.

Michelle Collins (28:26)

So Amanda's like, oh, no. I. You know, I wake up and every morning I tell Kyle how I'm feeling and.

Ronnie Karam (28:34)

Oh, I'm sure you do.

Michelle Collins (28:36)

Yeah.

Ronnie Karam (28:39)

Kyle, I hate you. Get out of bed.

Michelle Collins (28:44)

And, yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be, like, really forward. I honestly, I'm dying to know what's happening relation wise. Because Ben, he just, like, told me bits and pieces, but, like, you deserve true love. And if that is, like, that's a great like. But if not, like, you need to fucking find it, you know? Like, you deserve someone who appreciates you for you, man, like, what? This is such an overstep. I'm sorry. Like, you don't even know what this person. Like, obviously this. Obviously Sabrina's watched her on tv, but, like, why are you saying this to her right now? You just met her.

Ronnie Karam (29:16)

She's a weirdo. And Amanda's like, well, I mean, has been like, journaling about us the whole summer and filling this girl in and we didn't even know. Like why does she know so much? It's weird. So she's like, oh my God. I just want you to be happy. And that's it. Just be happy, Amanda, okay? You deserve this. You deserve this. It's been 10 years. Oh my God. I remember you in that hot tub. I was so sad for you.

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Michelle Collins (32:21)

so now the party is over and we go to North Carolina because we're gonna go visit the house that Sierra just bought from, you know, from her grandparents. And we see it. She's talking about how the house has been in her family forever and it was the only house she knew and growing up that they moved around a whole bunch, but this was the house that was always permanent and that they would always come to. So she's in there, this architect and interior designer come in and they are gonna come and like, scan the house and come up with ideas.

Ronnie Karam (32:52)

Yeah, it looks cool. I hope we get to see the whole thing being remodeled. It's got good bones.

Michelle Collins (32:56)

Good bones.

Ronnie Karam (32:58)

It's really cool, actually, because it is mid century. I mean, every single nothing in there has been touched, like all the original cabinetry and stuff. So I wonder what she's gonna do to it.

Michelle Collins (33:09)

I hope she keeps the wood paneling. I feel like that would be like a. Like a lovely nod to the home's origins. I know that's like very dated looking, but I kind of of. I do enjoy that wood. I enjoy wood paddling. It's nostalgic for me. I am like a house hunter's cliche. It's like, well, I grew up in a house like this. Actually, I didn't even grow up in a house with wood paneling. I just went to houses that had wood paneling and I always liked it. It's always cozy, you know, like a TV room with, like, wood paneling and a carpet, you know, and a nice sofa. Like, that's the dream, I think.

Ronnie Karam (33:39)

Yeah, Yeah. I have a house like that. I just put wood walls over, like, instead of like an ode to it, you know. But there's so much cool stuff she can do. I want to see. So then we are in New York, and it's Tuesday, and we see Bailey on the phone with her dad, and he's like, wow. How's the coolest girl in New York doing, honey? She's like, great. Well, I watched It Girl, the Scarlett Johansson one. Wow. That was super cool. Both of your. Both of your skin looked really good.

Michelle Collins (34:08)

It's. What a good dad. I know. She's like, thanks. I'm just gonna pause right now, Dads. That way the producers can show a clip of me interviewing Scarlett Johansson and raise my profile a little bit on the show and. Hold on. They're just about to roll it. One second, dad, me and ScarJo. Okay. ScarJo. Married to NBCU's very own Colin Jost. So this should be no problem. Okay, dad, one second. This will just make me look a little bit cooler because I'm sort of on the low end of the totem pole on this cast. So I just want to have some, you know, celebrity association dads. They're gonna show that clip right now, right? Okay. They're not showing it.

Ronnie Karam (34:41)

I think she should change her branding because It Girl is too. It's too much of a saying already. Yeah, it's like a cliche, and everyone says it, and no one's ever gonna find you just Googling It Girl. Because I just googled It Girl, Scarlett Johansson, and it's like, Scarlett Johansson is the quintessential It Girl. And then all the articles are, Scarlett Johansson, Scarlett Johansson, It Girl, Scarlett Johansson. But none of them are the interview.

Michelle Collins (35:05)

You know, Scarlet Johansson's like, I thought I was going to be interviewed about fixing your computer's motherboard. Isn't this the It Girl podcast?

Ronnie Karam (35:16)

It's like, I really came in here prepared to teach people about HTML, but whatever.

Michelle Collins (35:22)

Oh, so you don't have issues with the firewall?

Ronnie Karam (35:25)

So you don't have a spinning beach ball? Why am I here?

Michelle Collins (35:29)

I really wanted to show America this other side of me, but that's fine. I'll just go back to preparing Collins old IBM from 1987.

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Girl. Let me tell you this. This is how to get ahead in the industry. Do not update to Apple Glass. It is the worst thing in the world. Okay, good luck. That was my it tip. It is the worst. By the way, I just want to say I, I, I. I hate. I hate with a passion the current iOS and OS systems on Macs. I think they're terrible, and I need to use this platform for good. So consider that word being put out.

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It's the OS, it's not the iOS. IOS is the phone. No, it's both. Oh, you don't both.

Michelle Collins (36:14)

I'm saying. I am. That was intentional. It's the iOS and the OS both.

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So how come? What do you hate about them?

Michelle Collins (36:21)

I think they move things into counterintuitive places. Like, if you want to share. It used to be that if you wanted to. If you're on your phone and you wanted to share a webpage with someone, you would just press on the bottom screen the send button. And then, like, it would say, like, right away, be like, copy. But now you've got to hit one button, and then from there, you got to go another button, and then from there, another button, and that's just to copy a link. And then if you want to, like, go to a different tab, you have to hit one button, and you got go bookmarks. You got to do this and this. It's like, I feel like that's with everything with it now. I feel like everything has so many more clicks in pursuit of them, creating this visual that's like, ooh, it's glass. I'm like, I don't care. I don't need it to look like glass. Like, give me fewer clicks.

Ronnie Karam (37:07)

Function, Please function. I want it to look like wood paneling, and I want to be able to share this shit easily. Okay, so now something I think that really needs to be gotten rid of along with that design is Jesse singing career. Here we go. Jesse is in an actual recording studio, which I was surprised at. I thought he was probably, you know, put, you know, home producing or whatever. But, no, he's in a producing studio with a producer. We listened to a little bit of his latest song on Crappy Hour this week, and he's like, I just love being me.

Michelle Collins (37:42)

I think I'll just be me. Like, oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. It's. It's like. It's, like, worse than you can imagine. Are you Barney? You know, and we've given credit. Like, there have been bravo liberties that we haven't loved, but they come out with a good song. We always give credit to a good song.

Ronnie Karam (38:00)

Yeah, always do.

Michelle Collins (38:01)

We always do. This one is just so bad. And he's in there singing in the booth, and the producer's acting like it's freaking Eminem and 8 Mile, and the guy's like, yeah. Oh, man, this is hot. Oh, fire. And he's like, I think I'll just be me. I'm like, oh, God. Well, we didn't even see.

Ronnie Karam (38:19)

I mean, what we basically saw was him lifting his phone, just going into a mic and be like, hey.

Michelle Collins (38:26)

And they're like, great.

Ronnie Karam (38:27)

Oh, my God. That was amazing.

Michelle Collins (38:29)

Okay, see you. So now we go to Paris Cafe, where Lindsay and Amanda arrive, and Amanda's like, how are we ladies on this fine day? It's getting chilly out. Like, you. It's August. It's mid August. Amanda, don't gaslight. Please stop trying to segue me into into in the city, okay? I am still in my summer vibes.

Ronnie Karam (38:54)

Oh, my God. Waiter. What's your name? Paolo from Colombia. I know Apollo from Colombia. It was a really nice night. And he's like, I hope it was good. She's like, it was good. So Amanda's like, get you a salad. God.

Michelle Collins (39:16)

It was Kyle's birthday on Monday, and like, oh, sorry. So, Amanda, do you remember that it was Kyle's birthday on Monday? Yeah, it was Kyle's birthday on Monday. And honestly, I kind of forgot it was his birthday. And I was, like, so tired and had such a bad headache, so I asked if you could just, like, walk the dogs. And I probably should have woken up and said, said, happy birthday. Can you walk the dogs? But instead, it was like, my head hurts. Can you please walk the dogs? So I. I'm assuming that Kyle had a bad reaction to that, which is funny because he is gonna get dinged for forgetting a significant thing in Carl's life later in the episode. But I also think that, like. Like, Amanda's telling the story. Like, whoops, I forgot. I'm like, well, you forgot your husband's birthday. Like, I mean, it does.

Ronnie Karam (40:03)

I know, don't.

Michelle Collins (40:03)

I don't. I don't know if you're under an obligation to say happy birthday as soon as someone wakes up, but she's acting like, wow, what a baby. Like, I forgot. Like, what a big deal. I'm like, I think you should remember the birthday of the person that you are married to or in a relationship with.

Ronnie Karam (40:18)

Well, she also just threw him a huge party, so, like, the day before. So.

Michelle Collins (40:23)

Yeah, I mean, there is that, too.

Ronnie Karam (40:25)

I mean, and a dinner or whatever. Like, there was. So, Yeah. I mean, I don't know. So is this whole episode I'm going to be saying that. So Amanda's like, oh, my God, things will get better. Because we even agreed to go to therapy. And, like, if I can't pay you to fix it, then, like, what am I even doing? Yeah, that's not how that works. So they get drinks and they cheers. And Amanda is asking about Scott and she's like, did you ever go through with that contract thing? And Lindsay's like, what contract? And Mia, two weeks ago of saying she has a contract where he can only be gone 10 days at a time.

Michelle Collins (41:04)

Yeah. And. And then we see like a flashback to other contracts we've seen on the show. And Amanda's like, this is why Mia and I are so close. So Lindsay's like, so you want a contract for someone? And you can just sort of see Lindsay doing like A Beautiful Mind math in her eyes. Like, I could have been writing contracts for all these men all these years, even forever.

Ronnie Karam (41:28)

What? Yeah.

Michelle Collins (41:30)

She's like, how did I never think of this? I'm so busy demanding PowerPoints and doing timelines that I never thought I could just contractually obligate someone to love me.

Ronnie Karam (41:39)

Yeah. And Amanda's like, well, you know, like that. It looked rough when you said it, Lindsay. Because Lindsay's like, I follow questions. Have you talked about a timeline? Like, do you like timelines? I love timelines. And then we see a flashback to five summers ago where Lindsay had that in insane timeline. Yeah. And she said she's asking if they've talked about marriage and kids. And Mia says, yeah, because both of her parents passed away. And they're like, oh, my God, I'm sorry. She goes, no, no, it's okay. Because she's talked about it a lot, I'm sure. And she's saying that it's different because she doesn't have like a village to help her raise her kids. And so him being gone so long at a time is even trigger more triggering for her. This is not going to work.

Michelle Collins (42:20)

I am a little concerned. Yeah, I'm a little concerned. But they've been together for many years, so I think that is a good sign. But I am, I am a little concerned because she's. She seems like she really does want that person. And yeah, the flags. I would say there's like a yellow flag for me because, like, the fact that they've gone through years and have made it work this far is good. But we've also seen that long distance relationships on Summer House have. Have a 100 failure rate. Whether it's like Paige and Craig, whether it's Danielle and the chef, whether it's Amanda and Kyle doing long distance, emotionally, zing. But I think, yeah, I think that's. Yeah, it's a. It's a tough one. And I like that Lindsay was like listening. And when Lindsay listens She, like, squints her eyes and, like, puts her head forward. And Mia's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's wrong? And she's like, no, no. That's just how she listens. She has an aggressive listening face. Don't you worry.

Ronnie Karam (43:17)

She really does. She's like, I'm listening. Tell me everything. It's like, oh, my God. Your eyes are boring into my head. So Mia talks about how she has very strange cards dealt to her in life. She lost her dad when she was 22, and then her mom died a year and a half ago, and that was her best friend. And so she's saying, you know, like, I have to work twice as hard now at work, and then so does he. And we're gonna have to pay because we have to pay for a village, you know, because we don't have anyone there, like, to help us. Yeah, I just. I think if you want someone there, it can't be someone who's, like, a chef who's never gonna be there, because it's always gonna be another restaurant.

Michelle Collins (44:00)

You know, that's the thing. The restaurant people. That's. That's rough. There's also, like, a 100 failure rate with restaurant people on Bravo and. And Normies again. Danielle and her guy, she really covers all the basis with, like, types of failures in a relationship. But, like, look at all the. Look at all the vanderpump rules in

Ronnie Karam (44:20)

every career, too, which is weird.

Michelle Collins (44:25)

There's a 100 failure rate of relationships that involve Danielle. I mean, example one, Danielle and her relationships.

Ronnie Karam (44:33)

Speaking of 100% failure rates, Danielle. So Mia's like, oh, my God. You know, I'm just like, I'm scared I'm gonna be over 45 without kids and just have an amazing career. And, I mean, that would be fine if I didn't want kids, but I do want kids. And she's talking to Amanda, who's just, like, got this glazed stare in her eyes. She's like, yeah. Cause Amanda's gone through this too. And so she's like, I feel like a baby would heal me. No, that's not how babies work. Babies don't heal scabs. They open them, and then they dig into them, and then they widen them until you're bleeding all over the floor.

Michelle Collins (45:14)

I say watch the Valley and then see how much healing you've seen on that show, and then you can come back and give us a revised opinion. Thanks. Yeah.

Ronnie Karam (45:21)

The Valley should be birth control for anybody who's watching that show. I wonder if the I wonder if they could do like a sample size audience poll and just see how many. How much the birth rate has gone down amongst people who have watched the valley.

Michelle Collins (45:38)

I think 160%. That's what I hope. So they're talking babies healing people is actually lower than people dating Danielle at this point.

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