#3308 Ladies of London S4E07: Margo! Polo!

Summary

Watch What Crappens, Episode #3308: Ladies of London S4E07 - "Margo! Polo!"
April 10, 2026 – Hosted by Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Episode Overview

This episode of Watch What Crappens dives into Season 4, Episode 7 of Ladies of London: "Horsing Around." Ben and Ronnie dissect the drama, humor, and nuances of the latest installment, focusing on ongoing tensions (primarily between Margot, Mark, and Kimmy), the show's quintessential British-American cultural juxtapositions, and the emotional and comedic undercurrents that make Ladies of London their self-professed favorite Bravo show. Along the way, the hosts sprinkle their characteristic sharp wit, playful bickering, and insightful (occasionally self-referential) takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter and Character Impressions

• The hosts immediately express their enthusiasm for Ladies of London, calling it their favorite Bravo show and highlighting its "funny ass show" vibe, excellent casting, and unique chemistry. (02:49)
  • Ben: “It’s my favorite show on Bravo… just such a funny ass show. Chemistry is so great."
  • Ronnie: “I loved it too. The whole scene of Mark talking about being a child made me laugh so hard.” (03:07)
• The opening focus settles on Mark as a child: his dandy photos, ascots, and comparisons to Mr. Burns from The Simpsons. (03:35)

2. Debate: Bullying vs. Bravo Shading

• The bullying discourse is central. Mark asserts that he's been truly bullied and draws a distinction between real bullying and reality-TV shade.
  • Ben (04:29): “The word ‘bully’ has been thrown around a lot on Bravo—but when we talk about being bullied, we know what it really is… playground, schoolyard, children made to feel lesser. Two people being mean to you on reality TV is just not the same.”
  • Ronnie (05:51): “Sometimes bullying does happen on these shows. But…what upsets me about Margot saying it is she gives as good as she gets… It’s more like when an actual bully suddenly calls themselves bullied when hit back.”
• The hosts agree that Margot claiming to be bullied is an overreach, given her own behavior.

3. Richmond Park Workout & The Braun Dissection

• The audience is introduced to Micah’s family, especially her brother Braun – a workout-happy, mustachioed “trainer from Boston.”
  • Ronnie (09:14): “A guy who works out too much and is named Braun…just get on the fucking cover of a paper towel.”
  • Ben (09:29): “The handlebar mustache was more the offender than Braun’s name.”
• Much hilarity ensues over the family’s penchant for ‘service professions’ for the rich, like etiquette instruction and training.
  • Ronnie (12:09): “He’s one of those, like, ‘work out with me and possibly think you can get my cornhole?’”
• On British vs. American workout enthusiasm:
  • Micah (14:34): “Americans are hardcore about their workouts…most [UK] friends do not work out.”
  • The hosts roast Martha, who “might as well be smoking while she works out.”

4. Margot’s Feelings & Bravo Social Dynamics

• Margot opens up about feeling ganged up on; the group discusses the blurry lines between conflict, ganging up, and shade.
  • Martha (18:46): “You and Kimmy will sort it out because you’ll both say it to each other’s faces.”
  • Ben (19:23): “With Mark, I don’t think it’s genuine meanness…he likes to be funny, and sometimes what he says can be both funny and cruel.”
  • Ronnie (19:45): “I was kind of worried about bringing a gay guy into Housewives dynamics, but Mark is shady without being toxic. He’s actually broken that barrier for me.”

5. Mark's Old-Soul Quirkiness, Riches, and Aloofness

• Mark is shown in his palatial, rococo London home and in Italy, discussing his upbringing surrounded by auction houses and a lack of peers.
  • Mark (24:56): "Both of my parents have always been collectors, so I grew up essentially in auction houses. I was never really around people my age unless at school…and I found them all rather boring."
• Mark’s pop-culture ignorance amuses (26:07).
  • Mark, quizzed by producers:
    • Dora the Explorer: “I have no idea who that person is.”
    • Video game: “The Sims.”
    • Beyoncé's former group: “I don’t know, but I know Beyoncé. I went to a concert. I was underwhelmed.”
• His attitude towards his own rumors/downfall:
  • “If we’re going to turn this into something bigger than it needs to be, I think she should just relax. She’s an actress, sweetheart… that’s her job.” (65:18)

6. Class vs. Culture: Polo, Parties, & American/British Identity

• The group meets for Micah’s polo birthday party; only some choose to ride.
• Emma describes running a 10k (53:06), while Ronnie and Ben mock the concept of “hot polo players” who are supposedly poor—underscored by a screen caption showing they make $1 million/year.
  • Missy (56:21): “Date the guy that owns the team, not the player…They make nothing.”
• Margot’s July 4th party in London highlights British-American cultural differences.
  • Ben (47:54): “To commemorate a very important building not being caught on fire, we just set up a lot of fireworks and hope the important buildings don’t catch on fire again. I wear my best suit.”
  • Ronnie (48:00): “The Fourth of July is the day Brits don’t want to remember.”
• Margot quizzes her kids on the meaning of July 4th, leading to hilariously wrong answers. (50:43)

7. Martha’s Emotional Arc & The ‘Horse as Healing’ Theme

• Martha’s physical and emotional return to horseback riding is recounted as a powerful, personal victory.
  • Martha (41:05): “I really want to get back on the horse. Literally. I’ve always been happiest on a horse.”
  • Ben (42:14): “For those who didn’t watch the earlier seasons, Annabelle fell off a horse and it changed her life…So when Martha wants to ride again, I get worried for her.”
• The hosts draw parallels between Martha and Annabelle, another former cast mate with a similar struggle.

8. Resolution Attempts & The Persistent Mark–Margot Discord

• As the party winds down, Missy and Micah attempt to get Mark and Margot to talk it out.
  • Mark (64:47): “I’m very happy to say absolutely nothing to her or behind her, because she’s of no consequence to me.”
  • Mark (65:52): “So many things matter in the world, and this isn’t one of them. Listen, it’s Micah’s birthday. There’s so many things that matter, and this does not matter.”
• Mark infamously distinguishes between “bullying” and “unkindness.”
  • (66:10) Mark: "Bullying is trauma. Someone making fun of your outfit is possibly unkind. At worst."
• Lottie and Margot’s conversation highlights how generational, social, and British-American miscommunications shape the dynamic. (67:22–68:57)
• Final teasing: Margot calls Mark "Mr. Burns," echoing earlier jokes. (68:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Mark’s Childhood:

• Ben (03:35): “[Young Mark’s photos] look like they’re from 1962, but they’ve got to be 1994. He reminded me how The Simpsons draw Mr. Burns as a kid. Margot even called him that—hilarious.”

On Bullying on Bravo:

• Mark (66:10): "Bullying is trauma. Someone making an off-the-cuff remark about something you're wearing is possibly unkind, at worst."

On Mustaches, Hipsters, and Gym Culture:

• Ben (09:29): “People who have good bodies and a handlebar mustache…It doesn’t kind of work for me…To double dip, I felt like it’s just cruel.”

On Martha’s Battle With Herself:

• Ronnie (41:05): "She’s probably my favorite, but I worry about Martha. She’s got the darkest storyline...reminds me of Annabelle."

On Mark’s Pop Culture Gap:

• Producer: “Who’s Dora the Explorer?”
  Mark (26:36): “I have no idea who that person is…” Mark: “A video game? The Sims.” Mark: “I know Beyoncé. I went to a concert. I was underwhelmed.”

Margot’s Perspective:

• Margot (18:27): “When two people gang up on you and everyone else is not neutral, you’re being ganged up on.”

On British Humor/Shade:

• Ben (30:14): “I imagine all the British people there were like, ‘Wait, so give a compliment and tear down that thing? Yes, that’s how we call humor here on this island, Margot.’”

Emma’s Burn:

• Emma (55:57): "You are the shade, Mark."
  Mark: "I am indeed the shade. Well observed."

Finale Tease:

• Kimmy (71:21): “Fuck off, Margo!”
• Mark (71:26): “I’ve spent 20 years being treated like a freak and I’m not going to be branded a freak.”
• Margot (71:29): “He is a freak.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Bullying Discussion: 04:29–07:59
• Richmond Park Workout / Braun: 08:50–12:53
• Margot’s Feelings, Kimmy & Mark Drama: 17:17–24:29
• Mark’s Italian House & Pop Culture Quiz: 23:00–27:25
• Margot’s 4th of July Party / British-American Culture: 46:48–50:43
• Martha’s Emotional Storyline & Polo Return: 41:05–44:22, 59:31–63:50
• Polo Party, Gossip, and Intervention Attempts: 53:01–70:48
• Mark & Margot’s Continued Rift: 64:15–69:30

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, Playful, and Sardonic: Ronnie and Ben continually roast the cast, each other, and themselves, echoing classic gay/British shading, while breaking down deeper, real-life themes with empathy.
• Self-Referential Comedy: Meta jokes about getting canceled, their live audience, the Bravo fandom, and their own show ("Do they know they made this mistake? Yes, we do...I’ll take the bug in my house for that karma").
• Affectionate Mockery: At their core, they "mock because they love," skewering cast foibles without malice.

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Summary & Takeaway

This episode captures why Ladies of London endures as a cult-favorite: the mix of self-aware socialite shade, emotional vulnerability, and British-American fish-out-of-water humor. Mark’s barbed wit, Martha’s vulnerable comeback, Margot’s sensitivity, and the group’s chemistry provide ample fodder for Ben and Ronnie’s comic lens—balancing well-earned mockery with genuine affection for the subjects. The main tension about what constitutes "bullying" vs. "Bravo banter" allows for both reflection and laughs, while the show's visual excess (Mark’s home, Rococo parties, polo fields) and personal struggles (Martha’s horses, Mark’s detachment, Margot’s insecurity) keep the recappers, and the audience, craving more.

Next Week Tease: Preview clips promise an even more explosive confrontation, new alliances tested, and, as always, plenty more British-American confusion to dissect.

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For Listeners Who Missed It:

• You’ll come away understanding the intricacies of Mark vs. Margot, why Martha’s storyline matters, how the cast’s identities clash and intersect, and why Ben and Ronnie remain the Bravoverse’s premier comedic guides.
• If you want only the loudest Bravo drama? Skip to 64:15–71:35 for Mark-Margot fireworks.
• For the heart? Don’t miss Martha’s emotional struggles and victories, threaded throughout (41:05–63:50).

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“If it’s bullying, I love that they’re all doing it.”
—Ronnie, (07:17)

“I am indeed the shade. Well observed.”
—Mark (55:57)

“Bullying is trauma. Someone making fun of your outfit is possibly unkind, at worst.”
—Mark (66:10)

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Watch What Crappens: “We mock because we love.”

Transcript

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all the ghastly things that happen on Bravo Television. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, Ben. How are you?

[Ben]

I'm great, thanks, Ronnie.

[Ronnie]

How are you, sweet little dumpling? God damn it, I love your little face. Everybody, welcome to the show. It is Friday, April 10th. All right, for those of you in the future listening to this, like, what are they even talking about? It's because you're in the future. You don't understand. Okay? Today you're going to learn some history about the ladies of lo. Ladies of London. Great show. If you want to see this instead of listen to it, you can. Because we record these every day on Vidya. You can get those at our Patreon. That's also where you get bonus episodes. This week was the City in the City, the new show coming to Bravo. It's a trailer trash of that. We did a Survivor recap. We're doing Top Chef next week. It's a fun place to be. You also get our Discord server. And for free, if you just want to sign up for some free stuff, you can get our weekly recap blog. It's like a comedy blog making fun of all the shows we cover. Just kind of recapping the week. Just go sign up for that for [e-mail]. it's called Read what Croppens. Eh? And today is Ladies of London, season four, episode seven, Horsing Around. How do you feel, Ben? How are you feeling today? How you feel about episode? What's on your mind in general?

[Ben]

It's my favorite show on Bravo is Ladies of London. I think it's so good. I love that. It's the way we end our week. I just, it's just, it's such a funny ass show. It's just the chemistry is so great. I am obsessed. What's going on with you? What do you think?

[Ronnie]

I loved it too. I was cracking up. The whole scene of Mark talking about being a child made me laugh so hard. The pictures they showed of Mark, of course that was Mark as a baby. I mean you like it was drawn by a cartoonist. I mean that was just of course like the epitome of everything you think Mark would be as a child. Child. It was mine. Yeah, it's like he was like little dandiest child I'd ever seen in my life.

[Ben]

He really was. And like the pictures look like they're from like 1962, but they've got to be from like 1994. And yeah, just absolutely hilarious. It actually he reminded me a lot of the way The Simpsons depicts Mr. Burns as a child. So it's hilarious that Margot then started calling him Mr. Burns later on, which I was like, that was really good. Like that was hilarious. I mean Margot. I kind of keep on wanting to hate Margot because I'm like, I'm on Team Kimmy. But Margo's can be. Margot could be really funny too. I'm like, wow, she's like a funny American.

[Ronnie]

I think she was great casting for sure. I mean she's a great foil for these people and she's fearless, which I like. She does not give a shit. You know she's going to come for them no matter what. And I think they need that on this show. But when they showed Mark as a little baby with an ascot. When I tell you I fell over. I had to keep rewinding it.

[Ben]

Also like there was something really wonderful about that moment when, when he found out that Margo was claiming that she was bullied. And he's like, you know what? I spent the first 20 years of my life being savagely bullied. You were not bullied. And I thought that was actually really great because the word bully has been thrown around a lot on Bravo ever since Kelly Ben Simone stepped off the plane from Scary Island. And like, for sure there are things that can feel like bullying up on etc, but the truth is that when we really talk about people getting bullied, we know what bullying really, really is, we know it's like, it's on the schoolyard, it's on playground. It is like children being made to feel lesser than. And like, you know, cyber bullying. It's just all. It's. It's so awful and so vile that, like, to be, you know, you know, to have, like, two people be mean to you on reality TV is just not the same as what I really think bullying is. It, to me, it's just as I think he says later on in the episode, maybe it's a ganging up, but it's not bullying. And I kind of felt like him saying that as, like, kind of the first Bravo Liberty in my memory. To sort of draw that line between what really bullying is, I thought was really kind of great.

[Ronnie]

Well, I mean, look, I think sometimes bullying does happen on these shows. And, you know, as a gay kid, I was bullied a lot. You know, I'm sure that shocks everybody. I got it all. I mean, I was a super gay child. Imagine me now 10 times gayer. I was really gay. And so, of course, I got bullied a lot. And I do. My hackles rise sometimes with that. But at the same time, people do get bullied on these shows, you know, to a lesser degree. I'm not going to be like trauma Olympics about it. Like, well, that's not real. Like, I've got. I was pushing the lockers and I had gum throwing in my hair and stuff like that, which made me cry. The thing that me upset with Margot saying it is that Margot is giving it as good as she's getting it. So for her to be like, oh, I've been bullied. Every time they walk into a room, Margo's like, oh, God, look, there's Mark. She's making fun of him from the sidelines, and she's making fun of Kimmy, and she's talking shit just as much as everybody else. So to me, it's more like when an actual bully, you know, someone who's. Who's doing that same behavior is suddenly like, you hit them back and they're like, oh, no, I'm being bullied. It's like, no, you deserved it. Today on Reddit, I saw something where a girl was filming herself beating up another girl. She had one of her friends film her bullying another girl. And then another girl saw it and she went outside and had her friend videotape her beating the shit out of the little bully girl. And I was like, that's it. This is it. Get them on. Bravo. This is what I need in my life. So if it's bullying, I love that they're all doing it. I'll say that.

[Ben]

Yeah. I mean, I think there are definitely things that are like, that feel like bullying, etc. I just think that bullying gets used as this, like, get out of jail free from and from a. From an argument. And it's like, no, you just can't say that. Like bullying. I agree, it's so vicious and so vile. But I mean, we, we see, we can see versions of it. We just saw it on Southern Hospitality. Michaels, I felt like, was, you know, was being so mean to Lake that it kind of had shades of bullying. Like, he made her cry. But I think ultimately I loved, I loved Mark being like, yeah, you can't say that I'm a bully. I mean, one thing we can call Mark, though, is a cut fitness, and that is, like, undeniable. He is the biggest cut fitness of them all.

[Ronnie]

Well, I like that he's like, this isn't bullying. It's just general, you know, assholery or whatever he says. He wouldn't say that. By the way, we are accidentally live today on YouTube. So hi, everybody, on YouTube, they're like, can they see us? Do they know they made this mistake? Yes, we do, because guess who made it again? Me. For the second time this week. I didn't, I didn't categorize it, but yeah, we'll. We'll be reading your comments and stuff as we go along today. So far, we've got Annie saying sadly Mark has been damaged by the bullying. It made him see more, seem more genuine and not just like a meanie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like that they talk about on Real Housewives of Atlanta. Like, it's fun Shade, you know, it's not bullying. It's like, you're on one of these shows. We're going to be shady on these shows. If you're going to fucking cry about it, get another job, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie]

So start off in Richmond park and we see horses and cyclists and just general pasty people because we are in London and Micah's in the car with her brother Braun. I can't. A guy who works out too much and is named Braun. Oh, my God, just get on the fucking cover of a paper towel. Know what I mean? He really can't.

[Ben]

Well, I'm sure when he was named, they weren't like, this baby's going to be jacked.

[Ronnie]

But his name's like Bronson, you know, and he's like, I'm going to go by Braun, cuz, like, I work out and I'm going to curl my mustache too. I'm going to, like, have a mustache, but I'm going to curl it, and that's going to set me apart from the other trainers.

[Ben]

I really feel like the handlebar mustache was more of the offender than. Than his name being Braun. Like, I was okay with the name being with his name. Braun, and. But that handlebar mustache, I mean, I just don't like them. I actually have a specific dislike of people who have good bodies and have a handlebar mustache. Because at the gym I used to go to LA Fitness, which apparently I'm still a member of. There was a guy who would show up and he had this. He had this, like, hipster fucking handlebar mustache, but he was like, jacked. And I don't know why, like, that doesn't, like. It doesn't kind of work for me. It's like you're either a hipster and you're rejecting. You're rejecting mainstream esthetics, right? Because you're a hipster and you're gonna go for your own thing or you're gonna be someone who's gonna go with, like, a mainstream. Like, this is what a good body is. But to be like to double dip, I felt like it's just cruel.

[Ronnie]

That's true. It's like taking from two. Two different groups to just be liked by somebody, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's like, I'm working out, but everybody looks the same. But then I, you know, I'm not really a hipster, but I can get a mustache. It's just like trying really hard, you know? Somebody who signs up for too many clubs in high schools.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. I just don't like that.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I mean, Braun seems very nice, but the. I think you're right. It started with a mustache, and then I was like, Andrew names Braun. And then everything is just kind of adding up, you know, it's just evidence that's adding up to like, basically a murder conviction, you know, like, enough. A little. One thing isn't so bad. Two things isn't so bad. But by the end, I think he's a murderer and he needs to be thrown in prison.

[Ben]

At least he took his shirt off for us. So Micah's like, I am one of three children. I am the middle child, the only girl. The. My older brother is Shane and my younger brother is Bronn, and Bron lives in Boston and he flew in my birthday. And Bron is the best trainer in America. I'm like, so he is a trainer and you are an etiquette instructor. Are you guys just, like, trying to just be like, the help for all the wealthy people? It's like, what is Shane doing? Shane is like. He's like. He's a professional valet. Like. Like Mr. Bates. I just think it's, like, really funny. They're like, very. They're in these very specific things that, like, wealthy people call upon and. And their family is. Is employed in it. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Braun is also not there for your birthday. He's there for the tv. I'm sorry to break it to you, but Braun is using you, Micah. He's a user. So we see Braun and it says, Braun has Bron on the screen. And there's a bunch of thirst trap photos of him working out in a Speedo. You know, he's one of those. He's like, work out with me and possibly think you can get my cornhole?

[Ben]

Yeah. He's like, every week, we've got a weekly call, hence every week. And we just work out. And it's just such a cool thing to me that we get to work out together on a weekly basis, which we do every week. Every week. We do it every week. Every week we work out. If you can train me, he can train anyone. Guys. Isn't it crazy? So we see.

[Ronnie]

If my sister called me to work out every week, I would not have a sister. I'll tell you that right now. If anybody in my family was like, hey, Ronnie, it's our weekly workout call. I would disown them. And I would. I would go non verbal. What do you call it when you cut somebody off? I'd gone.

[Ben]

I'd go, grace.

[Ronnie]

No contact.

[Ben]

I got non verbal. It's different.

[Ronnie]

It is. All right. I'm not making autism jokes over here. I really meant no contact. My sister asked me to work out. I'm like, I'm autistic now. No, that's not what I was saying. I was. I had a bug in my house. I had a karma bug.

[Ben]

Since we have a live audience, we're more compelled than ever to say things that can get us canceled.

[Ronnie]

Ryan was making autism jokes. I really wasn't. I meant no contact.

[Ben]

Okay, no contact. But it is funny. It is a funny thing. Nonverbal. So they're working out. They, like, found some meadow of this. So British. They're like, let's go to a meadow full of wildflowers and work out. So they did. And Margot is there and Missy and Martha. It's all The M's. And they're working out, and Bron is. He's gonna be coming to the polo match that they're gonna be going to later because Micah wants to take a polo class for her birthday. She's like, bron and I virtually train every. And so I was like, you know what? While you're here, let's do something every week. Like, I don't know, let's go to a polo class. And he's like, yeah, what an opportunity to kick some butt and have some fun. Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie]

Don't kick my butt too hard, Martha. So they work out, and Martha is really. Man, she's might as well be smoking while she.

[Ben]

She's like.

[Ronnie]

It's like me walking up the hill after I get my mail. You know, I still will not get my mail because it's too far down the H. I can't do it. I come like, is it worth it? I checked my mail last week. There was so much mail in there because I just won't go to the mailbox. I'm sorry. It's too hard. I need a bra. I need a bra just to do that.

[Ben]

You do have a steep driveway. I can understand. So Mike is like, Americans are hardcore about their workouts, especially when they're weekly. And of course, I have the exceptional Emma's. But, like, most of my friends, like, do not work out because we see Emma and she's like, live. And, you know, she. She just did a 10K. But then, yeah, you see Martha, she's like. And that's just her putting on her sneakers.

[Ronnie]

I want to be the kind of girl that wakes up at 6am, goes for a 14.5k run. But I'm just not that girl. I'm not that girl.

[Ben]

I'm just a girl who's barely waking up from a hangover with Magpie on her forehead.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Bron takes his shirt off and like, oh, my God. Yeah. Missy's like, oh, well, hello. Great body. Oh, yeah. Oh, bronzer, sweetheart. He's like a very happy puppy with a mustache.

[Ben]

And they're doing some more workouts. Finally, they all settle down.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

and now it's time to gossip. So Micah is like, wait. So Margo, I wanted to check up on you, see how you are after everything you know what you know. Remember that, by the way, Martha, that was a fabulous party etiquette. And Martha's like, oh, you're so kind. I got so pissed I forgot to tell everyone to eat anything because pissed in British slang is getting drunk. And so she got really wasted and then we did. I think we saw a clip of her being like, oh, I do miss having a staff or even having four walls in my home. Not having a strange man from the park living on my sofa now.

[Ronnie]

God, I miss having a staff and a flushing toilet. Drinkable water. All right, you know what? Let's just do more squats. More squats.

[Ben]

I do miss having a physical staff that I'm just wedging the hand of the doorway. That way random strangers wouldn't come into the house. But as it is, it's sort of like a party every evening.

[Ronnie]

God, I even miss having a staph infection. At least I had somebody dress my wounds in hospital.

[Ben]

You know, when the bacteria want to eat your arm. At least you know, they care.

[Ronnie]

So

[Ben]

yeah, so Margot is saying, you know when two people are gang up on you, and everyone else is neutral. Sorry, that's. I'm an actress. I'm not going actress. Let me use my real voice. I'll stop with my mother position. When you're. When two people gang up on you and everyone else is not neutral, you're being ganged up on.

[Ronnie]

They weren't being gang. You weren't being ganged up on. You were giving it, too. And she's like, I feel really bullied. I'm really attacked. Well, you know, Kimmy, she generally has a heart of gold, but she's a tiger. And she's a tiger because she's had to be a fucking tiger. And if you're on the wrong side of those claws, it can be vis. And Micah says, yeah, and you're just so similar that when you clash and when you, you know, you're like, I don't know, like, wait, we could actually be best friends maybe. Maybe because you share a best friend. I don't know. And you know. And she's like, yeah, I know. And Martha says, you and Kimmy will sort it out because you'll both say it to each other's faces.

[Ben]

And Micah's like, yeah, with Mark, I feel like it's something similar, too. Yes. I don't think it's a genuine meanness in Mark. I think it's just he's playing for the laugh. He likes to be funny. And sometimes what he says can be funny, as funny as it is cruel. And Margo's like, but then just be funny. Which I think is funny as well. And she's like, yes, forthcoming.

[Ronnie]

I mean, look, if Mark wasn't. I was kind of worried about a gay guy being mixed in because people have said that for years. Like, why don't we have gay guys on Housewives? And I don't necessarily want that. I've never really been a big proponent of that. Like, I'm here to watch the ladies. I'm not really here to watch gay guys get messy, because I feel like sometimes when they do mix gay guys in, like I. We see on some of the other shows, like Southern Charm. And I'm not saying there shouldn't be gay guys on those shows, but I'm just saying sometimes when we see gay guys mixed in, they chase them around and they're like, bitch. You know? And I don't like seeing a guy scream at a woman. I just don't like it, gay or not. And so on these shows, I just don't want that because it just feels ick. And then I don't want to feel like, come on, guys, why are you yelling at women? Like, I don't want to be that guy all the time. So I think Mark has actually done a really good job at being shady, but also keeping it very funny and very gay and respectful. Like, even in his shade. Like today, he's like, I'm not going to fight with you. I'm going to go over here. You keep fighting if you want to, but, like, I'm not going to get into a screaming match with you. Like, I'm not going to do it. And I really like that. So I think he's broken that barrier for me.

[Ben]

So.

[Ronnie]

Thanks, Mark.

[Ben]

Yeah, you're a real pioneer, I think. I think watching the show, I. I mean, I'm completely on Team Mark, Team Kimmy. Like, that's like, I'm immutable there. However, I think in real life, if I were in Margot's shoes, I would be feeling the exact same way. I'd be like, who the is this dweeb being shady to me? I don't really know you that way. And you're talking behind my back, and now you're being shady to me. Like, go off honestly, Like, I would feel that way. And when someone says, oh, like Kimmy, you just have to get to know her. She's a heart of gold. Like, you just. If you're on. If you're on the wrong side of her claws, it can feel bad. I'd be like, well, I don't. Well, that's great that she's showing you guys a good side, but I just got those claws. I don't want to know this, so I could actually understand Margot. It just so happens to be that I'm 100 off on. On the opposite side of her.

[Ronnie]

I just like more.

[Ben]

Yeah, I like Kimmy and, And. And Mark more.

[Ronnie]

I love them and I'm funnier, so I like them more. Yeah.

[Ben]

And actually, because. And because they've actually established themselves as being so funny that if they were shady to me, I would be like, thank you. I. This is an honor. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

And you're right in what you're saying and that he did start it with her because her, Kimmy and Mark, and then he pulled a. Well, I've heard that she, you know, she's just an actress and she's totally changed and she's gotten money, which, first of all, was so silly. I mean, it's not even that big of gossip. But she. He did start it with her. So I can see why? She's like, what the fuck's with this guy coming for me for no reason, you know? Right. But like you said, I still like him more, so. And that's taking it over to bullying is also a bit much, lady. So then we cut to Mark. Well, she says, I think he's so insecure that he thinks he's this, like, fake little clown, you know? And he's doing. What he's doing is this fake little clown act is gonna be more entertaining than the real him. And I just wish he could just be real. I mean, he's just so desperate for everyone to like him. I mean, you are, too. You're an actor who, like, jerks someone off on screen. So, like, you're definitely going for the likes, too. So I don't want to hear it from you.

[Ben]

Yes. So now we see Mark walking down the street, and he basically goes into this. Some sort of, like, art studio, whatever. And he goes. He's gonna be looking over architects, schematics. Architecture, architects looking over schematics for this house he has in Italy. And he's like, the reason I fell in love with the house in Florence is because it belonged to the Negronis, much like my house in London, which belonged to Oscar Wilde, who is one of my great idols. And we see this. Mark's house in Italy is like a White Lotus palace.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God. Is that even real? They showed this. I almost pooped on the floor. This is crazy. This guy is rich. Rich. This does. If that's real, that shit is rich. Rich. That's crazy. And these guys are just there to design, like, the frescoes on the wall. Like, he's gonna have all the walls, like, painted in these beautiful frescoes. I mean. Wow.

[Ben]

Yeah. He's keeping the live. Yeah, it was.

[Ronnie]

It looked like a set.

[Ben]

Yeah. By the way, someone in the comments, Lindsay says, by the way, wasn't Micah's brother a firefighter? The firefighter mustache predates the hipster mustache. I don't remember. I don't remember if she said he was a mustache or not, if he was a firefighter or not.

[Ronnie]

Oh, well, you know, the end of our. A firefighter. That takes evidence away from the serial killer vibe. I was so I was about to convict him, but you guys just added hot evidence, which makes, you know, it counteracts the trainer in a speedo thing and the mustache thing a bit. That's hot.

[Ben]

If he. If he was a firefighter, like, he is now officially blazing hot. I'm sorry. Like, he is really hot now.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Okay, take it back. I love Bron. I love the name. What a beautiful name. We could be.

[Ben]

Let's go back to someone who's not fighting any fires anytime soon, but perhaps is Flaming Mark. So he's looking at his house and he's saying, how. But both of my parents have always been collectors, so I grew up essentially in auction houses. As a child, I was never really around people my age unless I was at school, and I found them all rather boring anyway. And we see these pictures of him, and it's like. It's like. It sort of was like a sailor's uniform, but it's like that uniform that people in 1905 put their children in.

[Ronnie]

He's like three years old in an ascot, like, holding a pipe and, you know, tiny little martini glass. I mean, this show is so funny. And the conversation he's having at the same time with the guys is so funny, too. He's like, well, you know, in my Italian home, the drawing room has this amazing color palette in the ceiling. So I'd love if we could just go off the color palette in the Italian home. And they're like, well, we were thinking maybe beige and cream. And he's like, beige, cream? Oh, God, that's a sin. Burn me alive if anybody ever finds me in beige and cream. Awful.

[Ben]

Oh, what am I, Marga, going to West Elm? As a child, I was never really around people. Oh, I mentioned this already. I just want to emphasize it so. Like many ways, I consider myself an old soul. I have no interest in popular culture. So they. The producer is like, okay, we're gonna do a pop culture quiz. Who's Dora the Explorer? Which, by the way, why do we start there?

[Ronnie]

That was so funny, though. They go, who's Dora the Explorer? And he looks genuinely perplexed.

[Ben]

He's like,

[Ronnie]

I have no idea who that person is. Okay. Have you ever seen a Star wars movie? No, I haven't seen Star Wars. Can you name a video game? A video game. The Sims. The Sims.

[Ben]

Who was the most random? The Sims.

[Ronnie]

I thought he was homes. He can build himself homes all over the world.

[Ben]

You know, I like to think of the Sims as people I would never hang out around.

[Ronnie]

I would love to see his Sims homes. You know, they're just fucking amazing. Oh, my gosh. Yes, Sims. And they go, so what group was Beyonce in before she went solo? And he goes, oh, I don't know, but I know Beyonce and I went to a concert. I was underwhelmed. Oh, God, I shouldn't have said that.

[Ben]

Be Careful, Mark. He's messing with me.

[Ronnie]

He literally knows. He legit knows Beyonce. He's like, sure, I'll come to your little concert. Where is it?

[Ben]

His pop culture knowledge, basically, is the Sims and Beyonce, which is amazing. What is that man doing with a little spatula? It's called a barbecue, Mark. I'm not familiar.

[Ronnie]

What exactly is a surfboard? Anyone?

[Ben]

Lemonade? Is that like limoncello?

[Ronnie]

So now we go back to the park with everybody else who was working out. Mark is like. I mean, the thing about Mark is, like, he, like. He thinks he's funny and, like, laughing, whatever, but he's not. He's just mean, and he doesn't have a sense of humor. Okay, now you're going too far, Margot. He is funny. It's just at your expense. And I get why that would hurt your feelings, but it doesn't make it not funny. Okay?

[Ben]

But I think that Mark there is. He got a pure heart of gold, and I literally.

[Ronnie]

It's literal gold. His family didn't like him very much, so they took out his little innocent baby heart and replaced it with the golden heart.

[Ben]

He has been gilded from the inside out. And weirdly, I think it's that heart of gold that ironically makes him really mean, because he wants to make other people laugh and have fun.

[Ronnie]

He also happens to have a golden sphincter, but we don't mention that much because it doesn't have much to do with personality, does it?

[Ben]

Micah's like, oh, we should take him to the Golden Corral when we get to America. I'm sure he'll love that.

[Ronnie]

Oh, God, I know what that is.

[Ben]

So now we go back to Mark in the studio, and he's, you know, asking about timelines and stuff. And the producer is like, you know, you have a reputation, okay? Not being aloof, but being, like, a little untouchable. He goes, oh, I'm so pleased. This thrills me, but, you know, sometimes.

[Ronnie]

Okay, It's a safety mechanism. Is that what you're after? It's a safety mechanism. All right, Just go on, please. Let's not make me feel things. Today. Doing frescoes in the Italian home, he

[Ben]

gets glum right away. He's like, all right, I've been in this rodeo before. I was in Maiden Chelsea. All right? Trauma. Daddy didn't talk to me much, mom and never cared. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here I am. Cry.

[Ronnie]

Safety mechanism. Moving on.

[Ben]

So back to one second. Let me show you a video of my Sims game. That little girl is crying right there. And that will represent Me shedding a tear. Because I will not do it for you. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

Back to the park. Margo's like, I mean, it's weird to, like, give you a compliment and then tear down the thing that you've complimented. Like, he's a liar. Like, maybe even a psychopath, because who does that? Gay people, Margot. I mean, what the hell? Where have you never known a gay person in your life?

[Ben]

I. I imagine all the British people there were like, wait, so give a compliment, then tear down that thing? Like, yes, that's. So we call humor here on this island, Margot.

[Ronnie]

Marcus said things that are funny, but, like, what he's doing to me isn't funny, and it's meant to be hurtful. And then he's gaslighting me and everyone else by saying, oh, it's just a joke. It's just a joke. It's spread of humor. No, it's not. It's shitty, and he knows it.

[Ben]

Can we get context here? It was like, you wore a thing that had, like, big feathers in it, and he was like, ooh, gorilla Deville. And you're, like, literally having a meltdown about it. And, like, the only rumor that you heard about that, the rumor that you heard from him, was that he said someone showed up at your. At his party and said that you've been sort of been a diva who's been very concerned about labels lately, and you've sort of become very much an actress. And then you responded in turn by saying, well, I heard he's a bag holder for Emma and that he has no money. He's just trying to attach himself, which I think,

[Ronnie]

you know.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's a little bit more of a vile rumor. And the point is that, like, he started a rumor. You started a rumor. So that is even.

[Ronnie]

And then he shaded your ass, made his fashion. You were making fun of his fashion, too, when he's like, yes, come on. Like, meet a gay. Seriously, get over it. Okay, so Micah's like, yeah, well, you know, like, whenever I'm in a moment where I feel like Margo's being attacked, and I'm like, don't you feel this way? Or whatever? It's like. Like, no, she's pretty awesome. That's what I say. I'm like, she's awesome. And, like, he's gonna trust me. I mean, I'm an American with the Muppet show about manners in England.

[Ben]

Oh, my God, you're gonna make me cry. I feel so alone, actually. That's, like, really sweet.

[Ronnie]

Cry.

[Ben]

And so now they all Gather around and are like, oh, is this what an American goes? A great pug. Oh. So she's like, guys, wow, that's really nice. Thank you so much. Wow. Oh, well, I'm really smelly, so I don't want to hug you more than that. Otherwise you're gonna be in real trouble. It's a big issue for me this week. Sweating a lot on camera.

[Ronnie]

So Martha's like, well, they're both bitching about each other. I just hope they give each other a chance, you know, I miss. He's like, oh, he needs to know that. He needs to know about his behavior. We need to have a talk with him. Mike is like, well, maybe Missy and I can go have a chat with them with your permission. Oh, guys, don't do it.

[Ben]

Don't do it.

[Ronnie]

This is not gonna work out.

[Ben]

She goes, well, I think that Mark is a people pleaser. So if he realizes that this is like not pleasing the people to be a backstabbing little, he'll probably stop.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, a good point here in the comments from Ms. Talulu. She says, I thought Margo spent many years living in London. If we all got an education from LVP about her British humor, then she would understand British ways. That's true. Also someone who's been. Who's like, oh, I'm a London girl. And then they're like, oh, my God, someone's being shady. Like, yeah, so.

[Ben]

So now we go to Mark's house and like, this place is. It's. We've seen it before. It's fully gilded, rococo touches on every corner. The gold leaf here, gold leaf there, swirling paisley patterns and florals. It's. It really is like a museum. It's like when you go on a tour of an old mansion or an old palace and you have to stand behind like a velvet rope and look at a bedroom room and I'm just like, I don't know why. It hit me harder this time than the first time. I'm like, how do you. How do you live here? How do you just, like, sit down on your sofa and you're comfortable and this is like, this is where I live.

[Ronnie]

That's how he's comfortable.

[Ben]

Crazy.

[Ronnie]

He's like a three ass straight backed gay. Like, he does not relax. I don't think he. He probably has a fainting couch where he's like, oh, like I need to relax. And then like, the room is like,

[Ben]

not set up up in a. In a. In a soothing way. It just feels like there's just furniture just in random, like, areas. And it's just like, oh, here's a sofa. I'll sit down on it. Like, there's no. I don't want to say feng shui, because I don't know feng shui. But, like, there's no flow to it. Like, even when you watch, you know, Downton Abbey, those rooms have a flow to them. And these are. This is just like gilded furniture in a gilded room. Sort of like haphazardly placed about. I'm like, how are you?

[Ronnie]

It's a hoarder. He's a hoarder with money, you know, so we look at it because we don't really. We're not rich. So we look at it and we're like, oh, my God, that's. He's so rich. But ultimately, he's just a hoarder. It's like he's. We find out later he's just on the auction sites all day long to fill his time, and he just keeps buying really expensive shit. And then when he runs out of a room, he just buys a giant mansion and wherever and just starts doing that, you know, It's a fabulous way to be a hoarder. You know, I feel like it's unfair to poor hoarders because poor hoarders, it's like, oh, my God, you know, you have a cat squished between newspapers from 20 years ago. Now there's a flat cat. You poor person. Let's get an intervention. But if you're rich. They're like, oh, my God, he's fabulous. Did you see the twink that was smushed between the national geographics from 20 years ago?

[Ben]

I'm an old globe. So Kimmy shows up and she's like, oh, my God. Well, this is the first time I've been at the house in daylight when I've been sober. So they sit down and he's like, well, I would hate to ask you this, but would you like some water? She's like, water?

[Ronnie]

What's that? I mean, I don't even know what that is. I did take a shower in it earlier.

[Ben]

How about that was the soul purpose. It's like, well, clearly we have a lot to talk about. She's like, yeah, as well. What did you think about picnic? He's like, well, I don't think I've ever seen you cry. Talk about water coming down your cheeks.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I know. Martha's my good friend, and I'm with her during the good, the bad and ugly. And I miss Margo, you know, Miss Margo starts causing all this gossip. But then Martha, she took her side, and I just thought, you know, she's being heavily manipulated, and I just couldn't take it anymore.

[Ben]

I don't even know who the Martha is when she's around Margot. I mean, it's like I'm talking to a completely different person, you know, and like, she's some kind of, like, Margo

[Ronnie]

Boss, you see, I thought Martha was smarter than that. No, but Martha is very bright. And then in some other ways, she's emotionally really off. Really off. Like, I love her, but sometimes in my life, I've had other ups and downs, and she's the first person to come to my house and say, let's have some tea. You know, She's a very, very kind person. Of course. Of course she is.

[Ben]

But I just think that she gets. She gets in a lot of problems. She gets in all these situations, whether it's with men, with friends, or with strangers. Let's roll the clip for the first, first of six times this episode of Martha telling me that she let a stranger have her keys.

[Ronnie]

It really grates me to see someone being taken advantage of. And I'm upset. I'm upset about it. And he's like, it's so important to be a good judge of character, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Well, I think this Margot girl is just, you know, using her for people she knows here. And I think she's really disingenuous. He's like, oh, that's obvious. But she should realize that, you know, if someone's causing trouble between all her friends and that there's obviously something amiss.

[Ben]

Well, I know, I know. And I think her true colors will shine, shine soon. So now we go to the body lab, and Martha, wow, she's exercising for the second time in an episode. She's with her friend Mimi, who we saw earlier, last season in last episode, and they're doing that thing where they're working out with the, the. The. The things that zap you and give you, like, electrocute you for better workouts, etc. Do those work?

[Ronnie]

I don't want to know if all this works. Like, does that thing, like, it shakes your fat off? Does that work? Or does the cool sculpting work? Because I heard that cool sculpting, just, like, it melts your fat, but then your fat sinks down into other parts of your bodies and you have clumps of fat everywhere, you know, like, does any of this work?

[Ben]

Cool sculpting apparently just does work. But there is a Very scary potential side effect, which is what happened to Linda Evangelista, which is that, like, if things go awry, like, there's a chance that your fat will just kind of like, congeal to itself and get like these called, like the butter stick effect, where it looks like you kind of have a stick of butter under your skin and there's nothing you can do about it. Like, it's one. It's cannot be removed. It's irreversible.

[Ronnie]

And I feel like I already have sticks of butter under my skin, so could I just melt those? Could you just remelt this butter?

[Ben]

Yeah. And by the way, someone right here in the comments said my mom had that happen to her. The stick of butter, it's there forever. So I'm not touching that cool sculpt. Oh.

[Ronnie]

Oh, darn. They have a discount on it down the street. Like, you want a discount on cool sculpt. Well, not if it's gonna be that. I mean, I have enough trouble without having sticks of butter. Yeah, that's. Could you. Could you aim it towards my penis maybe? That would have been great if I can get a stick of butter. But then they could just, like, push it kind of down to my wiener. That would be great.

[Ben]

It's a really crazy thing. It's like a. What a bizarre side effect. And also crazy that they can't get rid of the stick of butter. I think it's like, so enmeshed in your cells that there's just no way to remove it, you know?

[Ronnie]

Well, our friend Maddie last night, I was talking about getting my waddle done. Like, my waddle because I lost weight. So I have this waddle, you know, and I had it behind the mic, but, you know, it's there. I play with it all the time. And I was like, I want to get this snipped. And he said that you could take fat from places and get it put into your wiener. So I could walk around with just like a huge fat wiener. Like, I lost weight everywhere else, but then my wiener could gain weight, so I do that. Wouldn't that be hilarious? What would you do with a big fat wiener anyway?

[Ben]

You know, I don't know, but sorry, I got distracted because I started looking up the stick of butter effect on the coolsculpting and the images are kind of craz.

[Ronnie]

Okay, look up stick of butter effect, coolsculpt penis and see if you can move it down to your penis.

[Ben]

Sculpt. Penis. I'm afraid of what I might. Actually, I. It's.

[Ronnie]

Oh, someone in comments Said there's a shot that you can also take that helps dissolve it. That's more natural. My best friend did that, and she raves it. Oh, so you could dissolve the fat, but then where does your. Where does your fat go? I think you're supposed to pee it out, but then you're peeing out fat. Is that healthy? I want to pee out fat.

[Ben]

Well, I think it's. I don't know. I will say that righteous gemstone in the comments said, I watched Margo's movie. The girl went there in all caps. That's what I've heard. I've heard she goes there. She goes there.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so Martha's saying how she's let herself go, but now she's gonna get back into working out and stuff. And she shows off her biceps, and she has been working out. She's like, clearly it's been working, and she's got big old guns on her. And so now they're talking about what she's gonna do now that she's settled, and she's like, I really want to get back on the horse. Literally. I've always been happiest on a horse. Now, look, I have to say about Martha, she's probably my favorite, but I worry about Martha. I mean, she's got the darkest storyline. That first episode, I was like, oh, my God, I'm worried for this lady. Like, I'm seriously worried for her. When she was like, oh, you know, I've lost it everything, and I'm back. There's just such a darkness there. And it reminds me of Annabelle. She's got a lot of similar stories to Annabelle from Ladies of London who passed away. And I'm not saying that's going to happen, but she is cheerier. But there are a lot of similarities. And this is just another brick on that wall of the horses. Remember, because Annabelle was like, oh, I've been addicted to. To drugs ever since I fell off a horse, and horses were my everything. And now I can't ride horses anymore. So I get worried when she talk horse.

[Ben]

Well, for those who don't. Who didn't watch the first three seasons of the show, Annabelle, she got on a horse during filming, and then she got thrown off the horse and, like, broke many bones in her body. So that, of course, was the very first thing I thought of as well. When Martha was talking about wanting to get on a horse, it's like, no, you're too precious to us. Don't get up.

[Ronnie]

Yes. Don't do it.

[Ben]

They don't. They don't like washed up rich people. Yeah, they'll throw you off.

[Ronnie]

Those horses get you. I know. So she's talking about her horses. I've had some wonderful horses, but two really stand out. Daphne. I had Delilah, and Daphne is Delilah's daughter. And then we see Winston was from 1997 to 2020, and Delilah lived from 1993 to 2016. And then we see Daphne, her current horse, and when she was with her mommy, a little baby and so cute. And she's actually a really cute picture. Delilah had Daphne just when I was going through my divorce.

[Ben]

And she's saying, but by the time Daphne needed to be broken in and start her career, I didn't have the finances, and so I had to put her out on loan. And I have actually never ridden Daphne. I'm sure Daphne is, like, okay with not being. Not having to have a career. She's like, why do I have to have a career? Can't I just be a horse for a rich person that walks around so sick of working?

[Ronnie]

I was born to work. Jesus Christ, can I be born for something else? What if I wanted to write a book?

[Ben]

I just want to be an artist.

[Ronnie]

Nay.

[Ben]

So Martha is like. She's like, oh, it's so ridiculous, because she's. She's talking to Mimi about this, and she's like, it's just ridiculous because they're always saying, come see her, come see her, come see it. Because Daphne is up sort of in foster care, and Mimi's like, but why have you not taken this up yet? Because it's so much emotion to address. It's just so painful. Also, Hecate says I'm not allowed to see Daphne. Heckate says, if I see Daphne, Hecate will peck out my eyeballs because I'm the only one that's supposed to care about pets. Heck, he's supposed to be the only one that I'm supposed to care about. Oh, God, it's so scary.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So this is a big horse day for her. So she's like, oh, God, I couldn't feed myself, let alone a horse. But it's time to get back in the saddle again. Martha will ride again.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, I also got very nervous about this. So then she's like, well, guess what? I could really go for a big, fat, juicy burger right now. I was like, I love this woman. Here comes one right now. Leadership used to mean having all the answers. But today's best leaders embody a more humorous approach.

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[Ronnie]

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April 22, 2026, while supplies last. Selection varies by location. See lowe's.com for details. Mulch offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii. So we come back from the commercial and we hear God Save the Queen the the opening. But then it goes to my country, to thee, which is like the American version. And we're at Marco's house and she is celebrating July 4th with her family.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, they did this on the original Ladies of London too, where they always insisted on celebrating July 4th. Guys, we beat them in this war. It's so weird to be like, I'm just an American who wants to be accepted in England, so I'm gonna celebrate the day we kicked their ass in a war and stole their country. What are you doing? You're not gonna be invited to parties this way. Okay, so the kids are lighting sparklers and having fun and she's like, I've never had a Fourth of July in London. Like, they do Guy Fox Night. And that's their final fireworks party. And Lottie tells us, yes, the 5th of November we have fireworks to celebrate that the Houses of Parliament were burnt down by this guy called Guy Fawkes. And then we light bonfires because he was burnt at the stake. It's very weird, but it's what we do every year.

[Ben]

So to commemorate a very important building not being caught on fire, we just set up a lot of fireworks and other fires and hope that the important buildings don't catch on fire again. It's really great. I wear my best suit for it.

[Ronnie]

And Martha says, oh, Kimmy's like, yeah, the Fourth of July is the day the Brits don't want to remember. It's not fun to celebrate her. To feed.

[Ben]

Yes. America in its current format, perhaps would do better under the king. I was like, ooh, burn. And maybe not wrong.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. At this point.

[Ben]

You know, I like that she said, in its current format.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I mean, we're having no kings protests all the time, but maybe we just need to start having different kings. Different kings. Behead the king.

[Ben]

Trained kings.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, trained kings. Trained kings. So she's like, oh, my God, guys, we have to have ice in our drinks because they don't use ice in London. And that's very American. Ice right now is so America. America's really into ice right now, guys. I see it all over the news.

[Ben]

Too soon, Too soon.

[Ronnie]

I know. They kept saying I. So it's like, please don't. We've got it bad enough over here. Like, just. Just. Just blow your sparkle. Do whatever the you need to do. Just don't drag me into this. Okay?

[Ben]

Yeah. So Margo is saying Della is adapting best to London life. That baby was born to live in a city. She loves the bus, she loves the taxis, she loves the dogs. I'm like, it's a baby. She'll be excited about anything. Like you bring out to the countryside. She'll be like, she loves the cow, she loves the grass, loves the pine. I just hate when parents do this. Like, my kid is the smartest kid. My kid can speak 10 languages. It's like, it's a baby, and it's got, like, you know, chocolate sauce all over its face. It's just happy to do. To engage with anything.

[Ronnie]

Your baby is eating its hand.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Rely on the baby for Yelp reviews of things. But the baby is so cute and is loving everything. It's just laughing at everything and having the best time. When they're talking about ketchup.

[Ben]

Yeah. Oh, sorry, babies. I was saying the baby's having a great time. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So they're talking about catch up. And she's like, these are hot dogs, but they're called posh dogs here. Could you imagine? I'm not a good cook. And they're like, yeah, we're getting that. They can't cut through the.

[Ben]

The posh dogs.

[Ronnie]

She's like, I'm not a good cook. I spent my 20s and 30s on cocaine and champagne.

[Ben]

So, Jacques, how you feeling? Feeling better. He's like, I'm great. He's like, no more Jack. No more jet lag. He's like, no, no more. You ready? You ready to hit the town with me? Yeah. We do a little shopping, like, cool. So she says, this is a really big deal for me, that they find that my family finds their footing here and they enjoy it, because for me, it's the difference between giving up 20 years of my life and my connections and my work or being able to keep them. Because I never had an acting career in Los Angeles. I worked entirely in London. At least we see that she does her whole thing about, like, she has all her connections. Everything here set up for her to be an actress in. In. In London. But if she were to go back to Los Angeles, she'd be basically starting from scratch. She'd have to. She's like, I guess I'd be a realtor. I don't know.

[Ronnie]

You know what they love? You know what? The acting community in London loves reality stars. So I'm sure this is going to work out great. So she's quizzing her kids. She's like, do you know what July 4th is? And they're like, independent. She goes, from who? Abraham Lincoln signed the Declaration of Independence, and it freed the slaves. And she goes, yeah, that's a different independent. So July 4th is Independence Day. From who? George Washington? No, you guys, come on. It was the Revolutionary War, and they signed a treaty against who? Gay people who are mean to our mom. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Hate people who were mean to your mother.

[Ben]

Yes. Yeah, I was a little concerned. I felt like they were a little bit too old to not know the answer to these questions.

[Ronnie]

They're Margo's children. They. They're lucky they can walk upright. I mean, honestly. So everyone's getting ready now, and Micah is FaceTiming her husband, who is real. I mean, I think. Because if it's AI, I would think he'd look like the, you know, the big guy from Game of Thrones. But I think this one's real. Yeah. Because he's real pasty and has, like, Republican congressman hair. So she's talking to him on FaceTime. He's like, hello. Hello, darling. Check. Unfortunately, my birthday party this year lands on a day that Marco's traveling for work. That's basically. He's traveling for every. Every day that Ends with day. So it's gonna be, I'll see him

[Ben]

again one day, Marco, someday. So she's like, well, so I think there's six of us that we're gonna go. And I'm a little nervous because says it's the first time everyone's seen each other since that picnic. Remember the picnic? Right? He's like, huh, huh, huh, huh. So I'm hoping, like, everyone just kind of behaves themselves, and if not, I'm just gonna, like, take away the polo magnets. Right, Mallets? He's like, yeah, it's gonna be six

[Ronnie]

of us riding horses. Maybe five or six. So it's gonna be really fun. Right? Like, I'm a little nervous. I mean, it's every first time that. What if they fight? What if they fight? They might fight. Oh, my God. I have manners. I have Manisha. I'm up.

[Ben]

It's.

[Ronnie]

What do you think of that, Marco? He's like, ding. Okay, time's up. Oh, you were timing me. You were timing this skull. I am. I've got to go. Sorry.

[Ben]

He's like, sorry, My other family is about to get home, so we have to wrap this up.

[Ronnie]

So now we go to the polo field for Micah's birthday party. It's the ham polo club.

[Ben]

Yeah. Which ham? So Micah's like, I've probably celebrated some six birthdays on a polo field. It's just so fun. It's so social. It's so exciting. And I'm just like, I'm such a polo fan. So people are arriving and saying hello and everything, and. And Emma arrives with long lead local honey. And she looks, of course, like bombshell and this, like, white outfit and everything. And she tells us she ran most of the way on her 10K. And she's was saying how it was so amazing, and she saw some. Some monkeys that were trying to eat the bananas that were for the runners. And it's considered one of the most rigorous 10Ks that are out there. And I was like, I love you, Emma. I do not care about your 10K. Your 10K is like everyone else's 10Ks I've ever encountered. I don't care about them.

[Ronnie]

And Lottie comes, and she's like, look at me. I'm in a beautiful suit. But his secret, it's a man suit because I had to wear Joshua's clothes because I. I'm pregnant. And they're like, but that's a woman's suit. Exactly. So now they're making small talk about polo or. Yeah, small talk about Polo. And Emma's asking Micah if she's, like, a polo person because she's dressed the part. And she's like, oh, no, I just love to watch polo. I. I don't play it. Yeah, I don't. I don't ride horses. I just like hanging out here. And Bron's like, I'm excited to be beside her, beside Martha. Wow, what a gorgeous lady. She's like, oh, darling, don't put me on a pedestal. I will fall straight off.

[Ben]

Kimmy arrives, and she's wearing this, like, headdress with, like, white flowers on and everything. And she's like, well, I've got a lot going. I'm really excited to do this. And Margo's like, well, I have a lot going on in my life, and I'm tired, and I'm, like, not in the mood for. So Martha's like, can you please, please be nice to Margot today? Please, because you love me, Kimmy. Be nice. Well, of course I'll do it. I'll be nice. I'm always nice. She's like, thank you so much. I'll put my nice hat on. It's easy. Say, oh, look, Margot. Kimmy is wearing her peace hat. Don't you like it? Pieces like, yes, I want flowers for peace.

[Ronnie]

Right, dude? Margot's like, do you think it'll help? She's, well, I don't know, but I'm channeling it. It's like, okay, well, you've got a lot of peace going on. Kimmy, is there something you're trying to say? And she goes, yes, I'm a peace of shad.

[Ben]

Just finally we agree, Margot.

[Ronnie]

So they give each other a cheers. And then Mark comes and he's like, well, I have this way of blocking out irrelevant things like Solange. And what Margot struggling to understand is that I'm distinctly uninterested in her. Nothing about her fascinates me or intrigues me. And I feel that that may be bothering her.

[Ben]

I mean, who does she think she is? The 2000s release of the Sims. So then Mark is. Mark says hello to Margot, and. And he's walking around, and Mark is like, oh, I need to find the shade. And Emma's like, you are the shade, Mark. I am indeed the shade. Well observed. Kimmy is like, where the hot man? I'm looking for some hot men around here. I'm wearing my PSA address for the hot man.

[Ronnie]

The thing about these polo players is that they're hot, but they're always poor. Missy's like, oh, really? Just, oh, yeah, date the player. Date the guy that owns the team, not the player. A tragic mistake. Tragic. And she's like, polo players make nothing. Nothing. Disgusting shit on the bottom of your heel. I mean, just horrible, horrible. Poor people. And then on the screen, it says, polo players make $1 million annually.

[Ben]

Missy's like, oh, that Asad. So it's like. I mean, even some of the best ones in the world, just dead poor. I mean, you. They might as well just be painting Martha's parme at this point. So Missy is saying, well, I'm single. And I'm like, hey, maybe this is my thing now. Like, stop ruining it for me. Jesus. I want to find hot polo man.

[Ronnie]

So Mark is bidding on. He's like, I'm sorry, darling, I'm bidding bidding on something on my phone. I need to pay attention. And Emma's like, what is it, a teapot? He's like, darling, I'm not shopping for your husband.

[Ben]

What is it? It's a set of chairs I want for Florence.

[Ronnie]

I love that burn.

[Ben]

I know, right? They're so mean to each other. It's hilarious. And I'm just. Just goes right off their back at all times, you know? And so Emma's like. Emma's asked how his dad is, and he's in hospital, and he talks about how you see your parents get older and they become more fragile and frail, and you try to, like, ignore it, and then eventually you sort of are just confronted with it. It.

[Ronnie]

And he's like, there's not much you can do for them apart from comfort them. And if they will accept to be comforted, which is not the case in this situation. I sent him a card filled with scrolls of frescoes that are about to go up into the new chateau. And not even a word in response.

[Ben]

They put him in a dreadful hospital gown. I went in there and I just pointed and laughed at him. My father did not appreciate that. Apparently, it's called British humor, Father. You should know.

[Ronnie]

So now it's time to ride the horses. So Lottie, Kimmy, Emma, Mark are not riding the horses. So Kimmy is. They pull up chairs to start gossiping. And Lottie's like, well, obviously I'm not playing polo today because I'm pregnant, but I would. I'd normally be the first one on that horse. And Kimmy's like, well, I don't want to look like a complete twat out there, so trying to do something I'm really bad at, so I'll just do. Sit here and. And do something. I'm good at, which is, talk about losers.

[Ben]

Why would you play polo with people who are not necessarily the most competent of players? And Emma's like, I'm not doing that. Horse riding is dangerous enough without this situation. I'm gonna sit down. I just did a goddamn 10k in the first place anyway. And I'm starting to feel really upset about that teapot comment, now that I think about it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So we see Martha, who's happy as hell on that horse, like, me, I'm back on a horse. And then everyone else is talking shit and, like, sitting around talking shit. And Margo's telling us that she's taken polo lessons before, but it was a long time ago, and everyone kind of sucks at it. But, like, who's great at polo right off the bat, you know? So Martha's like, well, it turns out there's a whole different set of instructions for playing polo on a horse.

[Ben]

Yeah. Because Martha was like the top. Top saddle, side saddle rider in the uk. So she used to be really into this. But she's like, this is. These are like tanks. I'm used to riding tanks. These are like, far easy. Oh, Jesus. So she's going, and she's having fun, and she's, like, trying to learn it. And they're. There's. There's playing polo. And so Emma is like, oh, so Mark apparently got yourself in a little bit of trouble this week. And Lottie's like, oh, yes, because you weren't there, Emma. And Emma's like, I wasn't there, but apparently you caused ruckus. He's like, oh, yeah, he ruffled some feathers. That's what you're trying to say. Just spit it out. Emma already.

[Ronnie]

Well, ruffled feathers, yes. Because she was wearing rather a lot of them. Well, I'm not saying I'm surprised. I just want to know. Tell me, because I wasn't there. He's like, listen, if you're going to go around wearing 150 billion dead pigeons to a garden party. Wait a minute. They were ostrich.

[Ben]

Do you know how long ostrich plumes are? They're this long, sweetheart. About three times the length of Emma's husband's manhood, if you know what I'm saying. But there was nothing austrition about them. It was pigeon.

[Ronnie]

Was it ignited, though? What. What ignited the fight, though? And Lottie's like. Because she thinks Mark's been saying things behind her back. And Kimmy go goes, well, he has, and so have I, but she's very upset I heard she's been crying about it. And Kimmy's like, really? Oh, God. Anyone who starts crying because somebody criticized their wardrobe has a real lack of what I call important issues going on in their lives.

[Ben]

So you actually attested to a proper row at this. This party. And Lattice like, well, she didn't cry there, but I've heard she's been really upset about it. I almost want to make her a little adorable suit for her tears. And Emma's like, look, Mark slags off my wardrobe all the time. And, like, you're probably not wrong. If anything, I might wear something because that I know he'll hate on purpose just for his reaction. I've done that with loads of times because it's funny.

[Ronnie]

She goes, how did it end? And he goes, she left.

[Ben]

It was ideal look. And Lottie's like, is Mark some kind of fashion guru, like, who says he knows the rules of whatever somebody should be wearing? Margo has a right to wear whatever she wants. And what that people making bitchy comments about it. Excuse me while I put on another paisley suit.

[Ronnie]

Seriously. And Mark's like, I don't think she'll make it in London. I think she's far better suited to Los Angeles.

[Ben]

Los Angeles continues to be the butt of all their jokes, and I love it. So they finish their game, and Martha's like, do you mind if I take the horse for one last victory lap? I thought I saw there was someone out there on the far end of the field who could maybe paint my house. So one moment, please. So she goes galloping away, and it's like a moment of, like, freedom and glory and getting back in touch with the horsey, the equine emotions of her youth. And it's actually very nice and lovely. And Kimmy is watching it and. And Kimmy is feeling something with it. You know, she's like, you know, for somebody that always loved horses, she didn't get one for years, you know, for some odd reason. And it really seems nice to see a connect with something that's made her feel so alive again. It really makes me happy as to say, as a friend, to see that. And, you know, the producers were like, is there going to be a caustic, biting comment to follow that up? No, it's.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Kim's just being really sweet. She's like, I'm so proud of her. She's just come so far. Look at. I'm just so proud of you. You want to know something? I've never seen anyone more beautiful on a horse than You, Martha. She's like, oh, you're such a. A nice liar. She's me. I'm the meanest on earth. And if I say something, it's because it's true. It's like, oh, I'm so happy to be on that horse. Oh, I feel like Martha again.

[Ben]

Yes. As a Martha's like, the last five years, I've been so much about survival, just really animal instinct survival. Literally, like, I have to have an animal instinct, otherwise my eyeballs will get picked out by my overlord Hecate. And then we see again the peeling paint and the worn out rugs and the bird everywhere in her grotted.

[Ronnie]

So she says she's gonna go see the horse again, Daphne again. But she's scared because it's gonna be so emotional. And when I've ridden her, then I have to go home. And she goes, and you know what? That's life. Life is about beautiful moments. And, you know, life isn't always beautiful. All right? It's about appreciating the moments. It all beautiful. Do you understand? Martha's like, I do. She like, well done to you. Let's get faced.

[Ben]

Let's end this beautiful moment and ruin it with talking to Margo, shall we? So they go back to the party, and Missy's like, Missy and. And Mar. And what's her face. Micah, approach Mark. And Missy's like, I want to talk to you. Okay. He's like, well, here I am. Well. Well, the whole situation with Margot is like. It's like, so confusing. Well, you're a model, so I'm sure everything is confusing. No, no, I'm like, really not. I'm confused. I'm confused. It's like, say, well, look, I mean, I'm just completely indifferent to her.

[Ronnie]

Well, bottom line is, Margot's actually a really nice person. Gorgeous inside and out. Yes. Well, then we won't have to fight over her. She's all yours.

[Ben]

No, but what is upsetting her? He was saying. And he just starts laughing. It's like, you know, you'll say one thing in front of her face, and then you say another thing behind her back. It's like, well, I'm very happy to say absolutely nothing to her or behind her, because she's of no consequence to me. And if we. We're gonna turn this into something bigger than it needs to be, I think that she should just relax.

[Ronnie]

No, it's just that she's so upset because. Oh, God, just relax. Like, she actually cried and goes, remember, she's an actress, sweetheart. That's her job.

[Ben]

I don't think she's acting, though. Do you know what? So many things matter in the world, and this isn't one of them. So many things matter. Do you know what matters? Making sure you save when you're playing the Sims. That way you don't have to rebuild your living room, that you don't fall off the horse. You have a great time. Listen, it's Micah's birthday. There's so many things that matter, and this does not matter.

[Ronnie]

So now Lottie's talking to Margo. Margo's like, oh, my God, they're obviously talking about me. It's like, yes. She's confronting Mark about what he's. What's been said. So then back to their conversation. She felt bullied, which is not nice for her. She goes, oh, God. She doesn't feel bullied. She doesn't feel bully. That's what she said. Because trust me, she's a big girl. She'll get over it. Trust me, she'll be fine. And this is when he's like, I was bullied for the 21st, first 20 years of my life. I know exactly what bullying is. And Margot was not bullied. Bullying is trauma. Someone making fun of making an off the cuff remark about something you're wearing is possibly unkind. At worst.

[Ben]

I really think it's. You know what I think today. Today is a celebration. And we're not going to focus on any of this, my love, but we're

[Ronnie]

not having an argument. Good.

[Ben]

Good.

[Ronnie]

At all. Good. Please stop following me around. Because he's just trying to walk away and she won't let him. He's like, no, I'm not. I'm not fighting with you.

[Ben]

I don't think he likes having confrontation in public setting. Like, this is not what you do if you're of a certain class or station in life. And Micah is like, no, there's a time and place for everything. And at this point, it's not going so well. But also Mark is acknowledging that, and he's saying, I don't want any drama at Micah's birthday. And I think that's like, really good etiquette. Be quiet, Micah. So Missy is like, no, Mark, no, no, no. He's like, I don't think we need to worry about. I don't think we need to sort of worry about people's outfits. It's okay.

[Ronnie]

So then back to Lottie and Margot. Lottie's like, well, for the record, I said I like Margot. Like, well, thank you. Just. Yes, you know, I was just like, I don't understand this. Margo says, yeah, well, at least I'm not the only person holding Mark Francis accountable. It's amazing. Yeah, you're getting, like, all your little minions to go at it. This is not going to help you. This is only cementing his hatred of you. And Lottie is like, you know, I think he was just trying to say. He's like, oh, she does it for attention. And I said, I don't really understand. Just wait. Mark thinks, oh, I do things for attention. Like, oh, my God, Mark isn't even doing anything to you. He hasn't even said anything to you. But now you're the one who's, like, openly mocking him across the room. So you cut it out, lady. So annoying.

[Ben]

She goes, you know who this is? This is Mr. Burns. It's Mr. Burns. She does, like, the, like, flops her hands over and sort of hunches over, like, Mr. Burns. So Mark is like, I. He's now sitting with. With Missy and. And Micah, and he's like, I really struggle to get close to people who can't take it. And. Ls like, it was just. I was just like, look, I just thought that you had really thick skin, and I just didn't think you'd give a. I mean, I don't really. It's like. And the fact that you're saying that you're upset and that you've got feelings and. And all that stuff, that's. That just. That that is you giving a. And I'm just thinking. I'm just like. I just think the less you do that, the better. Stop giving a. And then Lottie goes, I mean, this is a woman who had sex on screen at the age of 21, and now she's getting shy, and she can't sit up to mock Francis. Like, what is that about?

[Ronnie]

So Mark is doing the Kardashians thing. He's like, there are kids dying all over the world, Kim. And Missy's like, I know. Missy's still trying. And he's like. And we're worried about what I think about someone's dress, but it was upsetting her. It's like, well, then she needs to get over it. I'm gonna go sit over in this charitable corner here where I feel that there's less drama. She's like, but it's not drama. I goes, good, I'm glad to hear it. But it's not, honestly, very glad to hear it. And it's entirely uncalled for, especially on Someone's birthday. The manners.

[Ben]

Well, Mika, we tried to talk about it. So if you can't have conversation, I can't force it because, well, I'm still hopeful that they can be friends and start over. And then we just see Lottie and Marco are just like five feet from this whole thing. They just can hear everything that's happening. So Kate comes out and Micah's like, I think I got off light in this party. I mean, I was thinking, like, I better hide them polo mallets, like, if there's so much drama. Oh, my God, classic Micah.

[Ronnie]

So they all cheers for her and give her a birthday cake and stuff. And Emma's like, you're like a Barbie of Polo, right? I mean, who could wear white joggers like this? I think that was a diss from Emma.

[Ben]

Yeah, Everyone, I want to invite everyone, including the birthday girl, which I know, lol. I would like to extend an invitation to Long Lead. And then it's like, this is Longleat, which is her home, which is also a safari. And she goes, if you care to join me, you're cordially invited. Is that what we should say? Right? Quarterly vitid. And Michael's like, yes. She's like, okay. And Mark's been. And Kimmy's been many times. And we've finally restored the players from their last bacchanalia. So please, I can't wait for you all to come. And Mark's like, I don't believe that we've actually even left in the first place, actually.

[Ronnie]

So Emma's like, yes. I mean, it's just such a different world and it's so important to me. And God, I just trying to articulate. It is so difficult. So I'd like to invite you, please come along. Late the first day, we're going to wash the rhinos. The second day we're going to clean out the monkey cage. The third day we're going, she's gonna just put everybody to work. So then we hear, and we see clips from One Week later and Kimmy storming off at a dinner and saying, you're being a.

[Ben]

Yeah, fuck off, Margo. So it looks like we have a good episode coming up next week and

[Ronnie]

Mark saying, I've spent 20 years being treated like a freak and I'm not going to be branded a freak. And then it cuts to Margo going, he is a freak.

[Ben]

Well, we'll see how that all ends up. We'll see. I'm very excited for it. But for now, our.

[Ronnie]

I love this comment in the live Bravo Rex said more of us Americans should be like the British and hold in our feelings. Amen. Amen. Amen. God love this.

[Ben]

Well, everyone, thank you so much for being here. Thanks everyone who joined us on our live. And we are gonna catch you next week for a whole new week of Bravo content.

[Ronnie]

Yes, we'll see you next time. Thanks to everybody in the comments. Bye.

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ben]

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