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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what happens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay. It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So the husband is saying, yeah, you know Big Dave's cheesesteaks? I know more than you. And she's like, well, he, you know, that does do very well. And we don't have a prenup, so it's my business too, baby. And he's like, God, you're so dominant. Okay, look, I'm the only person that doesn't put up with your shit. And you're used to people flocking to whatever you have going on. She's like, no, I'm not. He's like, well, I humbled you. So there we balanced each other out because I humbled you. Okay, get rid of Derek. First he's mansplaining Mac and cheese, and now he's spending the second portion of his first scene talking about how he humbled you. Get the out of my house, sir.
Tom
Wow. Yeah. You know what's so funny is that I watched the scene, but I didn't really listen to anything he said. I was she to me, he was just like, talking like. Also, I know last week she made a joke about how her husband eats meat. And she's like, I swore as a vegan I'd never marry someone who eats meat. But, like, I think we didn't really understand how deep it goes. I mean, he literally has a. A chain restaurant. He owns a series of chain restaurants called Dave's Cheese Steaks.
Heather
He is actually centered meat centered.
Tom
He not only eats meat, he's actually building a career off of meat. Yeah, she's a vegan. I was like, what is this, like, like goop romcom that they've got going on here?
Heather
I feel like this just doesn't work, this marriage there. I sneeze on it. I sneeze on your marriage. I'm allergic to it. Look, she. He's arguing with her all the time. He's saying, I humbled you. Then she starts slutty vegan and he starts a meat business. I mean, this husband's not supportive. There, I said it. And she even says. She's like, you know, I had a lot of lonely nights. And he goes, yeah, you did. He goes, you didn't have lonely nights. She's like, well, you were Beside me. But mentally I was alone. Like, do you really feel like you were there for me in my hardest time? And he's like, well, I was there for you as much as I could be there. I had meat sweats the rest of the time.
Tom
You're not familiar with those. Okay, so he's like, you know, I want. I wanted to be there. She goes, people can always say that, oh, he wasn't there for you. But like, I know that no marriage is easy. Most marriages don't work out anyway. But here we are. We always get through it. Every single time. All the time. Except at dinner. Good luck at dinner with you.
Heather
Over Mac and cheese starts a meat business to compete with your vegan business. Wasn't there for you at your hardest times. This marriage is not going to work.
Tom
It's rough. It's rough times calling who Dave is, by the way. Who's Dave? Who's Dave?
Heather
He's Wendy's father. You know, he's got a. He's just getting it out there. It's getting as many restaurants as he can. Wendy's is like, hey, wait a minute.
Tom
Dave Thomas.
Heather
Yeah, it's Dave.
Tom
I went to the Dave's. Big Dave's Way. Big Dave's Cheesesteaks, Taste of Philly. I'm on their website and it's just like meat. It's like big, big close ups of meat and melted cheese. And there's Pinky Cole on the side too. That she must love that. She must love that her face is on the meat site. It's like, great, great. Thank you. Thank you, Gordon.
Heather
This group photo, discover Big Dave's cheesecakes now with authentic Philly cheesesteak options. I'm looking for Mac and cheese. Do they have Mac and cheese?
Tom
There better be a vegan option. I'm gonna.
Heather
They do have. They do have Mac and cheese. It says Dave's sauce was great. The Mac and cheese was hot. So now he's competing with her Mac and cheese now as well.
Tom
He has a veggie. He has a veggie cheesesteak. But no, V. He doesn't have a vegan option on here. You have to have. You would vegan option on here for your wife. I'm sorry. You should have a collab with slutty vegan. Hello. What? How do we, like. I mean, like, how are you not seeing this big date meat?
Heather
I mean, branding. That's the. It's the name of the. It's the theme of the episode. So now we go to K. Michelle and her husband and they're looking at a house. And she tells us that they've been friends since junior high. They dated for 11 years, but he would never marry her. And she went into this situation saying she didn't want to be married. But then when he didn't do it, she was offended. And so I left to show him who I was. And my husband was trying to come back. And I said, you're going to do what you're supposed to do then. And then he drilled my teeth and gave me a new cap. And we got married.
Tom
So she and Caston are looking at this house, a very nice house. I like this house quite a bit, by the way. And she tells the realtor Cass, or
Kelly
tells us Cassian popped the question because he didn't have any other choice.
Tom
And then we see images. We see a video of them at their courthouse wedding and cast. And sitting there in the chair looking absolutely miserable. He looks like me sitting down for my driver's test when I was 16. Like, I don't want to be here. And he. I'm like, this is not a great sign. Shouldn't you be happy about marrying the love of your life? Cast down?
Heather
No, I don't know about these new husbands. I mean, this one, she's like, he didn't want to marry me, but I forced him to. What? What the hell? What are these? This is not very romantic show. Okay. It's not a very romantic day. But he seems to really like her. He does.
Tom
But I also think that, like, I don't know, I get nervous about these long term, non committal guys and then like forcing them into getting married. They always. I think they always like, cheater falls apart. I just get. I'm scared for K. Scared for kids.
Kelly
So she says, I can sit up here and give you all a fairy tale about how he loved me so much that he wanted to be with me and he just swept me off my feet. But no, baby, we sat around for 10 years, but we were on a breakup. And then I was about to marry another man, and he realized, you gotta pop up and let him know, like,
Tom
you're about to marry another guy. This feels very soap opera.
Heather
Yeah.
Tom
There's more going on here than what we. Than what we can see, right? I guess.
Heather
I mean, I don't know. So then they look around the house and she keeps telling us he's a successful practice in Memphis, Tennessee with his dad, but now he's ready to transition to Atlanta. And she's like, you know what? I never understood how you be doing people's teeth, and y' all be having, like, doctors and their scrubs and their sausage always sitting on the top of their scrubs. What's that about?
Tom
What dental practices is she going to? Just dicks hanging out.
Kelly
She's like, yeah, very much. Cassian sausage is one of the reasons why I married him. And that, you know. You know that. And he's understanding.
Tom
Big dick and understanding. Yep.
Heather
Well, she's like, well, you just need to make sure your. Your sausage stays in your. Your pants and your scrubs, because I ain't got time for none of that. And she says that scrubs never give the support that's needed. I mean, you got old women laying back, looking, and they're, like, talking about. Talking to these dentists about their man. I can't understand how you can even talk when you're at the dentist. I mean, don't you got something in your mouth? Better not be my husband's sausage, tell you that much.
Tom
How are you able to see? Are you able to even cruise a guy's dick at the dentist? You're always, like, up back and there's something in your mouth. You can't really move the suction thing in. Like, the last thing you're doing is, like, craning your neck. Just checking out the dentist dick. But I don't know, maybe. I guess casting has a really big one that's worth the. Worth the discomfort. So she says she's talking about she has a son who's 21. Oh, she has a son who's 21. Okay. And she wants to have a girl, though, because she wants to have a mini. A mini her. Which is funny because she's already kind of mini herself. She's already a mini version of her, but she wants to have a little K. Michelle, and. But she goes, but I'm struggling with
Kelly
infertility, and I'm trying to get my ovaries running.
Tom
So now we go over to Shamia.
Heather
Can we just stop with the. With the fertility story? Why is every. Is this a Bravo thing? That they had a meeting and they're like, listen, every single franchise needs to have somebody trying to have a baby. We need to have it, especially people with adult children. Let's just get everybody with an adult child to try and have a baby again. I don't know that I even believe all of them at this point. It's just a lot of people trying to have babies late. And I. I don't know. I don't believe it. Although Kenya is the biggest classic from the show who did that when she had a baby when she was 50. Right.
Tom
Or somewhere around there. I mean, I, I mean for sure it's something that I imagine there's definitely a segment of the audience that, well,
Heather
I know there' lot of people doing it in real life. I'm not saying that. I'm just like, is this a Bravo thing that they're making them do it? Is it like a cold plunge where they're like, okay, here's what you can do this season. You can go on a cold plunge, you can be rumored to have an affair with a married man, or you can try and have a baby.
Tom
Yeah, no, I think that like the Bravo definitely try does try to push this because I, I, I wonder if they do some sort of testing and they're like, oh, we found out that like a large portion of our audience is of a certain age and a lot of them are trying for babies. So I, I like this part of me that does feel like they are trying to connect with, with people who are going through this and they probably have market research because it does seem like it's a lot. And I think what's hard for me as a man is that I as a man who has no, I mean,
Heather
everything for men, it's really hard. You guys, you don't understand guys being
Tom
one of the most malign demographics, white male. It's just so hard for me.
Heather
The real victim here.
Tom
The number one discriminated category. No, but for real, I think that like, you know, it's hard for me to connect to these storylines because it's just like not anything that's like relevant to my life at the moment. So I just sort of like, you know, I try to like be cheery about them and understanding because they are very emotional and real things. And I think actually like some of them hit, I think a little harder. Like, I think like quad storyline on marriage medicine was very gut wrenching because she was really torn up about it. But then you watch Boses and to me Boses was like, okay. And like other ones, Megan King Edmonds like. But yeah, I, I try, I, I quite frankly find the malls to be quite boring because it's like I can't connect to it.
Heather
That was a long way around around to just say boring because there, and
Tom
I consider it trying to be considerate because I know for some, yeah, it's probably is very, it's actually probably very helpful to be like, I go through this too. It's great to see my story up on screen Yada, yada, yada. But, like, would you all be interested if every season there was a story about someone who was trying really hard to make a galette? Because I would love that, but I'm sure all the rest of you guys would be bored with it, right?
Heather
Yeah. Or just like some cranky person who's really mad about, like, property taxes paying for schools that he doesn't go to or send children to.
Tom
I mean, there's one like, like every episode it's like, I decided I'm gonna track down a board game that's hard to find. And it's like a 10 episode arc. And the audience like, okay, this again.
Heather
My storyline would be Old Navy, stop selling hoodies.
Tom
I'd be like, guys, this is the best season. But I'm not trying to minimize. Obviously, like, it's a real.
Heather
It's a real. No, I mean, I know it's a thing that happens in real life. I'm just saying that I'm not talking about you or your real life. Anybody who's out there like, oh, well, how dare you. I'm not talking about you. I'm saying on Housewives, it's starting to seem forest. Like, like they have the storyline so much that I don't necessarily believe it. Like, I don't really believe Bose. Like, Boses doesn't seem that realistic to me. I don't know. I just don't. I don't know. I don't always believe it.
Tom
Wait, I just want to say one thing. I. I just want to. Just one last thing. I believe that the story lines are real because it costs a lot of money to do the things that they're doing. But it does feel like Bravo has been pushing this for ages and I'm just at least grateful that that were past the taking care of a doll for a weekend phase that was on all the.
Heather
Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, sometimes it's important to think of the things you're grateful for, you know?
Tom
Yes. Yes.
Heather
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Heather
So then we go to Shamia. Coming to Kelly's restaurant and Kelly's like, oh my God, it's been a morning. Lamont just texted me like hey, I don't know if you know this, but on my, my ex husband just did an interview with Tasha K. And she's like, oh my God, sit down Tasha. No, stop it.
Tom
Stop it. Not Tasha K. Tasha K. So Tasha K. Yeah, yeah. So Lamont is doing an interview with Tasha K. Or as I like to call her, to shock. And Angela is. Angela walks and she's like, hi everyone. What did I interrupt? Kelly's like, my ex just did an interview with Tasha K. And Kelly says the fact that he would go on a distasteful blog. Although it doesn't surprise me, it still hurts me. My divorce was final September 2024 and I really just want to put it behind me. Okay, I, I want to say this too. I am 100 on Team Kelly when it comes to her awful ex. He is a piece of garbage. He's terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible. And like it just seems like by all accounts he is just like just a shitty person and just garbage and just like get out of it. Just, just finish this. Stop dragging your your ex through hell. Let her live her life. Stop being terrible, like awful. I will also say, Kelly, you did also have like a Full on season of being on national tv, where you got to, like, you got to say your piece. And I'm like, I'm not saying, like, oh, it should be equal time, but I'm like, just let him do a stupid blog. Like, you're. Move on. Be above it. Like, you've got a whole national tv. You've got a whole audience. It's okay.
Heather
Yeah, I don't know what he said on this blog, though. God knows. But, yeah, so Kelly's like, you know, I just wish he would get a life and leave me alone. And Angela says, I can't stand a man who talks too much. You're just a. These are bitch qualities. And Shamia says, you know, God is blessing and the devil is messing. Oh, my God, I love that one. It rhymes. I'm a singer. I'm a singer. So, yeah, I'm speaking lyrics. So they shop around and talk about businesses. And Kelly's like, well, my father. Finances are getting better. I mean, they're getting. They're get. They're. They're getting better. Okay, listen, audience, the debt is deading, okay? I mean, there's lawsuits and all these blogs about me owing rent on a restaurant that wasn't even open. And I was ready to walk away and say, maybe this isn't what I'm supposed to do. But, hey, we've got enough to open for two weeks, and we're gonna do it.
Tom
Yeah, so she's. She has, like, all this debt and. Yeah, she's. And poor Cha Cha, she's been. She has so much debt that Cha Cha has not been able to get her hair done in months. She unfortunately just been stuck with that crazy pink hair for a very long time. So they're talking about this.
Heather
Well, I was gonna say that dog has had its hair done. I just saw the dog, and it is pink.
Tom
Yes.
Heather
Still. And that's curled hair. So I guess she's doing it by herself.
Tom
I don't know. Just someone has to save that dog. I understand the reason why it's. It's pink because for those who don't remember, I think Cha Cha or a previous dog was abducted at one point.
Heather
And so now she always forgot about that.
Tom
Dyes its hair.
Heather
Cha Cha was abducted. So now she. She paints it pink so she can find it more easily, I guess.
Tom
Cha Cha ran away.
Heather
Cha Cha ran away.
Tom
Cha Cha. Cha Cha's talking to Tasha K. Chacha's like, here's the real deal with my mom. Sandra's like, like, well, of course I'm going to be there. I'm going to try to eat some chicken and waffles. Even if her and I fight down the line, the fact is still remains that her food is top tier. So Shamiya's like, by the way, have you taken time to process the stuff that Drew went back and had a conversation with Phaedra about? Because she kind of blew it over at the party, right? And they're like, okay, well, Drew did tell me that she spoke to Phaedra, and I did process it. And, you know, it is what it is. I'm not gonna get involved in this. Angel's not interested in getting on Shamia's side.
Heather
Yeah. She's like, yeah, I don't know why Shamia wants me and Drew to have an issue, but she's trying to get a reaction, and she's sh. Messy. She's shammessy. So Kelly says she tells him about going out for tea and then p. Being like, yeah, you're banging married guys, and, you know, you strive to be so perfect, but you're sleeping with married men. And Shimmy's like, no, she didn't. She goes, yes. And it went right back to the dirty tea. And so I'm like, wait a minute. Horsesha. They're like, you said that. She goes, no, but I could have said it. I'm saying it now. Like, no, no. When you leave the fight and you're like. And then this is what I said. And then everybody stood up and they applauded me.
Kelly
This is the same person who walked into another woman's house, went to the
Tom
pool, gave her a hug, shook her
Kelly
husband's hand, and then turned around and married him.
Tom
Which is true. So then Kelly tells us. Horse. A horse. A horse. A horse. A Porsche. Porsche. Horse. A horse. A horse. A porce. I was like, you get a. Okay, you made a funny line. Let's not, like, dry. Let me beat a dead horse. That's my job on this podcast. But you. You're on tv. You gotta. You gotta keep it together a little bit longer.
Heather
And then I said, oh, you want to give me a hug now? Like you did with Drew? And, you know, this is typical when we fight with somebody and then we make it. We make ourselves the hero afterwards, and we're like. And then I said. And then I said, kelly, you didn't, though. You sat there and you were like, okay, and let it go. And then you got mad. After which I don't necessarily blame you. But your story, your. Your storytelling leaves a little to be desired. So Shimmy is like, well, there's no way I would hug her. But I know Portia. Like, you had to de escalate that situation, because God knows what Portia would do if you didn't de escalate.
Tom
Angela asked if she if Kelly's going to invite Portia to the opening, and she's like, well, of course I am, but she's gonna have to pay for her own food. She's like, of course I'm gonna invite the biggest star on the franchise to my opening. Like, duh. So now we go to Drew's movie premiere, and she walks in with Claudia Jordan, former real housewife of Atlanta. I was honestly so happy to see her on the screen. I just. I want her to come back. I've waited so many. Yeah. I really think I really would like Claudia to come back on the show. I think she's really good. I. First of all, I love her accent. She has. I don't know where she's from originally, but she has sort of a fun accent. And I just think, like, her personal story wasn't, like, amazing, but I just. I just love how she can just stand on her own.
Heather
I don't really remember Claudia. I remember that she fought with Nene, and that was pretty funny because it was very rare to see somebody fight back with Nene at that time. So that was pretty fun. And I remember that she got a condo.
Tom
Remember, that's when we learned what edges were. When she's like, you have no edges. We're like, so she means Nini's lost her edge. She's, like, not as sharp as she used to be.
Heather
God, we're so sad. We're sad people.
Tom
And we're up here now. Say, this is what dirty tea means. So. Yeah, sorry, what were you saying?
Heather
Just. That's all I remember was her fighting with Nene, and then she got a condo and then she got fired.
Tom
Yeah, probably because she fought with. Well, so Drew tells us it's been fun in the studio, but now that the album's out and is doing Great, it's number 16 on the Myanmar top adult contemporary charts. It's time to get back to making some money. Because, let's be honest, my divorce is taking all of my money. So the acting allows me to pay the bills, take care of my kids. It's my bread and butter. This is the kickoff premiere of my new movie Run. It's an African American woman ensemble, but it's not about me and my house. I. It's about running from an alien and It's a very. It's very rare to see us in the space of sci fi. And it's really. It's a representation of women of color doing their thing.
Heather
So the villain, and this is the truth, my character runs from it constantly. Thank you, Drew Sidor.
Tom
I'm running from the person who I owe to cash, too, for partnering me with Drop It Like Drew. Thank you. So Angela, they all dropped Drew.
Heather
Oh, my gosh. God. And she refused to run. And that's when she had a fitness company, Drop it with Drew. She was like, I'm not going to run. But now it's a movie and you'll run.
Tom
Yeah. She should have gotten that alien into her program. She's like, alien, I know you want to kill me. That alien dropping 60 pounds.
Heather
Yeah, the alien already did it. It got free. Drop it with Drew. It was heavy when the movie started. By the end, it was like, very. It was very thin, very thin alien.
Tom
So I don't know, I'm, like, amused because it's just like. I don't know, they're all like. They're in, like, this big mom cineplex, and they're all coming up an escalator, which is. Look, I've never had a movie premiere. I think it'd be awesome. Even if I were in some low budget crap like Drew is in, like, that would be super cool. But for some reason, like, this show, like, just on the real, anytime the Real Housewives, they go to a fancy event at the mall, it just cracks me up. Like, I cracked up when Eileen Davidson had her movie premiere at the Burbank Film Festival, and that was in AMC next.
Heather
They were stepping on, like, shower rugs for the red carpet.
Tom
It's like something about, like, the glamour, the faux glamour of a real housewife being undercut by, like, the stickiness of, like, pools of Pepsi on the. Red. On the. On the carpet, the actual red carpet there. It's just like. It's so funny to me.
Heather
So Angela and Phaedra come and talk about how they're gonna be supportive of their girl. And Angela's saying, you know, the fact that Phaedra's continued to deny any involvement with the person from Kelly's event. I just. I had to reevaluate my own stance. I mean, if she's just denying it to this degree. So she questions Phaedra again. She's like, okay, let me ask you, did you send those people at Kelly's event? And she's like, absolutely not. Okay, you know what? Then I Apologize, because that was a bunch of bs So I apologize. She goes, well, thank you, Angela. That was the weirdest thing I ever saw in my life. I mean, we were both tripped out. I have no idea who that person was, but no one will be following you home tonight, I have a feeling. So you're safe now. Don't worry about it.
Tom
Angela's like, why am I going after a fan favorite? I'm a fan favorite. She's a fan favorite. We can come together and go after someone like Drew or Shamia. Why not? So she's basically like, yeah, I hope this opens the door for us to be friends. Phaedra's like, sure, okay. She's like, finally, I'm getting an apology from Angela. I'm glad that we've moved past this crazy. Maybe she'll find out who really did it.
Heather
Now, no one has ever sounded guiltier than that. Like, oh, I hope we can find the real murderers.
Tom
We all know
Heather
that's, like, every mystery, they're like, why are you concentrating on me? The real murderer is still out there. So now comes with Sway. And everyone's like, oh, my gosh. It's like, hi, everybody. This is my lady friend, Sway. I'm what you call dating. I'm in uncharted waters. You could just call me Christopher Columbus.
Tom
Sure, Sway. Not to be confused with Sway from mtv. A different Sway. And Drew is like, if Portia and I can get over our differences and be back in this really good place, then we are the examples, honey. And I am happy to see Angela and Phaedra turn over a new leaf. And then Drew is. They're. They're, like, toasting and everything. And Sway goes to get them all tequila. And then Drew's like, wait a second. What's going on, Portia?
Kelly
She goes, oh, it's date night. I'm dating.
Tom
She goes, but where's. Angela's like, but where's Mr. Bless? And we see that. We see what's his face, Mike, whatever, from last week.
Kelly
Portia's like, oh, it's casual. You know?
Tom
I'm like, no, it's not casual. It's just paid for. Okay, we know he was. He was brought in for the first episode, and Sway is your true lady love.
Heather
So Phaedra's like, oh, Portia's a free spirit. You know, if. If they got the capital. If you got the person for the money, you got the money for the person. She starts cracking up. And Angela says, portia's just fluid, and that's hot. And Portia's saying, you know, everybody has a lot to say about me being with women in the past. And, well, shit, I had a lot to say about me being with women in the past too, because it was the worst kept secret, but I was with women, and now I'm with a woman, so. But this is the first woman I've dated. Okay. But I still have dipped my toes and feet and hands in the lady pond.
Tom
Just a reminder that Kim Zolciak walked so Porsche could fly.
Heather
Oh, gosh. And then we get a clip of Candy being like, and you wanted to eat my. In the sex dungeon or whatever.
Tom
My Drew is like, did you guys meet here? Or whatever. She's like, whatever. Instead of just talking about it, Portia's like, you know, Portia's saying, like, you know, whatever. The truth is, like, that's. That's for her to tell. Okay, that's. That's. That's for you to find out. So Angela and Phaedra are still talking. And Angela's like, so I talked to Kelly, and she told me that her and Portia kind of had words. And Portia said that Kelly was sleeping with a married man. And Porsche's like, what?
Kelly
What?
Tom
Huh? What? And Fraja, of course, is like, oh, well, she just told me that you and Kelly got into it or something.
Kelly
She's like, well, Kelly told me that you said she was sleeping with a married man.
Tom
And Portia basically. Basically, Angela's like, yeah, she called you horseshoe.
Heather
Yeah, I like when Portia.
Tom
That's what it do.
Heather
Portia walks up and goes, why are your eyebrows up? So she's like, I don't know why she's talking about me, because it was awkward for a minute, but then we hugged it out and it was done. And she's like, yeah, she called you Orsa. And she goes, well, then she's a fake ass bitch. Because honestly, once we finished the conversation, we were done. No, you were done. You just. You just dropped that on somebody and then hugged and walked away. What the hell? So she's like, you know, I'm. I'm surprised that she would even confide in Angela. I mean, didn't her neck hurt looking up?
Tom
So shady. Didn't her neck hurt when she was doing that? Oh, my God, I cracked up.
Kelly
Horse is like, well, I guess I'll see her again. We can finish the conversation.
Tom
And she's well, you got the invitation to Nana's Waffle and Chicken.
Kelly
Yeah, but I'm not going. You call me a horseshoe. It's childish. It's beneath me. Y' all enjoy Friday.
Tom
I'm like, I wouldn't skip out on free chicken waffles personally, but that's fine.
Heather
I don't think they are free, though, because she said, portia's gonna have to pay for hers. And I thought, okay, well, that's a joke. But then at the end, she said, so Portia sent me flowers. Well, sorry, flowers don't pay the bills. Come in here and buy something. So were you charging people at your opening? That's crazy.
Tom
She might have been like, a cash bar. So now they all go into the. They all go in to sit and watch the. Watch this movie. And Drew is like, I'm not playing any games. We've got aliens. We've got cgi. I did my own stunt work. It's like Drew in, like, a station wagon and a guy in some, like, Party City, like, spirit Halloween alien costume outside the car window. Like, boogeyman voices. Like, really?
Heather
It's like the Stranger Things guy and
Tom
it's the funniest alien. It's so. It's so low rent. And Drew is like. And then she just goes running away. And then, like, she's acting like she jumped from building to building and, like, swang from, like, a rope dangling from a. From a helicopter with her own stunts. It's like you. You fell on the ground.
Heather
You ran to a car. And the producer's like, but you died in the first 10 minutes. And she goes, wait, hold on now. I didn't die in the first 10 minutes. I put up a good fine, and we don't know if I'm dead anyway. Let's wait till the sequel. You don't know that I'm dead, so you're dead. When I.
Tom
You met everyone sit through this whole movie, and you died in the first 10 minutes.
Heather
I did crack out, though, because when I googled the movie, I watched the start of the preview, and it's so funny. It's like you see, like, a spaceship and you see something in space, and then you hear the news, and the news is like, they've come. And we have confirmed that the big discs over the city are, in fact, alien ships. And then you just see all these girls walking to this cabin they rent in there. Like, girls Weekend. That is so fucking funny. And it's so true to life, too. I mean, I know it's just a cheesy movie, but the world's falling down around us, and we're just like, okay, are we going on girls weekend this weekend? Oh, my God. I can't wait.
Tom
Oh, my God. That's amazing. What? And I'm looking at. I'm looking at who else in the cast. Marcus. Marcus Houston is in it. Wasn't he in. What's it called that?
Heather
You're really selling it.
Tom
He was on Sister Sister. He was in B2K, right? B2K. I think I have to watch this movie now.
Heather
Okay, tell me how it is. So they're all giving reviews on the movie. They're watching it. And Phaedra's like, everybody knows black people always die first in the movie. But it seems a little strange because Drew is from Chicago, and everyone knows Chicago is shoot first, ask questions later. It's like the movie,
Tom
Shoot first, write a script later. Oh, my God. Drew says, I'm in great company. Jada Pinkett. Jada Pinkett died in the first 10 minutes of Scream 2. Drew Barrymore. She died in, like, the opening scene. Did I die? Did we know if I died? We'll see. I'm like, you, lady, you're dead. Not. Look, Drew. Drew Sedora has a legitimate, you know, IMDb, and she has acted for years and years. Like, I'm not gonna be like, she's not an actress. But, like, let's not act like you being in this movie is putting you on the same tier as, like, the Scream franchise.
Heather
And I like that. That's the only horror movie that she's seen. She's like, look. Look at all the people that have died. Scream. Scream. Scream. Scream. There were nine screams, right? How many screams were there? So then they leave the movie, and they're joking about double dating, going on double dates with Portia. And Angela says, well, she has a boyfriend. And Drew's like, no, that's my friend, guys. It's my friend Pedra says, the telephone man
Tom
says, I'm just trying to soak all of this up because my girls came out to support me. Phaedra, Angela, and Porsche. I mean, we may have our differences, but, you know, I really feel like in this group, we can get over anything. I'm like, yes. When I turn to the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I turn, I tune in to see a group of women always getting over things together. This show, if anything, is a show about unity. No petty squabbles here. Commercials.
Kelly
Here comes one right now.
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Heather
And now Kelly has a meeting with Lamont about the restaurant because they're setting up the event and she's stressed because, you know, she's broke and stuff. And so she's like, remember, you know, when we were opening this place? And, you know, you were like, why are you getting this rat hole? I thought, oh, God, it's gonna be so great. And you're like, why? Please don't do it. And I was like, no, it's gonna be great. And you said, you're gonna lose everything. And I'll like, it's gotta be great. Well, here we are with some balloons and an air thing to blow up the balloons. I mean, it's going great, right? He's like, you're losing everything. So then we come to the Grand Open. Well, she talks about all the debts and how inspectors, things like that. They did get an A. The health inspector will not stop coming by. They just keep showing up. Guess what? We don't have a lot going on here in Shady Springs, so we're here to do another health inspection. Okay.
Tom
Someone, they're just. They just want to give me Porsche. Like, we're back again to check the stove. Is Porsche here? Can we get a selfie with Portia? No. Okay. We're back in three hours.
Heather
Yeah. So she did get an A, which is pretty good. And so she's gonna do this to continue keeping her family, you know, financially stable or whatever. So now it's the opening time. All the girls are coming. Shamia's mom and dad come, and Drew's saying, last year, me and Shamia had an issue with Shamia had an issue with me, because I had an issue with Portia, and Portia had an issue with me, but I don't have any beef with Shamia at all. At all.
Tom
And Shamia's mom basically just. Basically says, like, hey, by the way, if you guys are mean, I'm gonna show up. I'm bringing my paddle. You guys be careful. So Cynthia arrives. Phaedra shows up. Everyone's hugging Shamia. Everyone's saying hi and everything. And Shamia's just like, she. Shamia is visibly unhappy with the fact that Angela and Phaedra are okay. And Shamia's like, I'm just like, I'm so proud of how fast we can all move on from stuff. I just felt like last year when I was trying to, you know, sweep stuff under the rug and move on, it was like, no. And you guys all wanted me to handle my beef with Portia in front of the group, and you all didn't squash in front of me. And, you know, like, I want to see, like, what'd you guys talk about? Like, how'd you get the Bob It. Like, make it make sense. I'm like, Shamia, you're saying that you. Shamia's whole thing is like, I tried to. I tried to just move forward last year, and you guys wouldn't let me. But now you guys are moving forward. Like, have you moved forward? If your evidence for how you've moved forward is that you're bringing up last year, you're literally not. You're literally going back as you're proclaiming that you were, like, the trendsetter of
Heather
moving forward, but it's also rewriting history because she was not trying to sweep things under the rug last year. That's not what. That's not what it was. Last year. Everybody was saying you're constantly kissing Portia's ass and fighting Portia's battles for her, not that you were sweeping things under the rug. Then when you didn't like that, you started all this beef with Portia so that you could show the ladies that you were not, in fact, just Portia's lap dog or whatever. So you did that just to start a fight with Portia, and Portia didn't even know she was in a fight with you until the end of the year when stuff started to come out that you were saying thing behind her back. So stop trying to make it like there was all this terrible stuff that you were trying to sweep under the rug. You were lifting the rug up and trying to find dirt under there to use against somebody who was your friend. She was being ridiculous last year. I can't with this. And now she's mad that everyone else is making up. So Drew's like, well, she said something key sweeping it under the rug. And now we've learned. Then you've learned you can't sweep it under the rug. You just can't do that.
Tom
And Angela says, I don't feel like I'm sweeping things under the rug. Phaedra and I had an adult conversation, and we're moving on. Shamia, don't get mad, because you can't do the same. So Shamia's like, well, I definitely learned that I can't sweep it under the rug. I just want to make sure everybody else knows they can't either. It's like, quiet, Shamia. Everyone's moving forward except for you right now, so you just have to deal with it. K. Michelle is not there, by the way, because she is doing her Nashville performance. And we will. We will hear more about that later. So Kelly shows up, and everyone's like, we. Cheers. She's like, thank you. Thank you. Oh, my God. I made it the finish line. Thank you, girl. And so she and Pinky have a moment on the side where Pinky is like, look, I know I left you on red, but I didn't mean to, and I just want to support you women supporting women, yada, yada, yada. Anyway, I'm so excited for you to go through your first closure. It's to be so special for you.
Heather
Yeah. She's like, we're both. We're both women in the restaurant business, and it's terrifying, and it's breaking us. So good luck. Whatever you need from me. She's like, well, it hurt my feelings when you kept me on red. She goes, well, okay, I'm. I will not do that again. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. So it was sweet. And then Kelly gives a speech, and she's like, wow. Thanks to everybody came out today. It's been a journey and a struggle trying to get the restaurant open. You know, from work to people making podcasts and telling lies, everything's been coming at me. This. Can I just eat my waffle?
Tom
Yeah, I know. Do we need opening?
Heather
Is this.
Tom
Also. Can we, like, not act like you are mad Max and you just Got to the end of, like, Fury Road. Like, everyone was coming at me, but I did it. It's like you opened up a waffle shop. Like, let's relax. So Drew is like, oh, by the way, did you see the flowers from Portia? And so there are these really nice flowers, and there's a note to it that says, congratulations, Kelly. And then it says, ps, need to talk. Need to talk on the. On the congratulations flowers.
Heather
I don't know. I'm sensing a little shade, Kelly. And so the waiter comes by, and he's like, do you want me to move these flowers? And she's like, just get them out of here. So she says, yeah, well, we talked. And she said, well, you're not as perfect as many think you are, because you're also out here sleeping with other people's husbands. And I'm like, what? And she's like, what? And I said, no, I'm not. And she said, yes, you are. And I said, no, I didn't. And she said, yes, you did. It went on like that for about half an hour. And Pinky's like, oh, my God, was he cute at least?
Tom
Like, she's like, I would be mad as hell. So Cynthia's like, well, I mean, if you're having sex with a married man, the last two people need to be thinking about are Portia and Dennis. You need to be thinking about the wife. That was Cynthia's contribution to the episode. So Kelly is like, let's be. Let's be very clear. I don't want nobody's husband, but I am gonna find me a new one. Okay? So then she goes and gets them food, and they. Shamia is just like. Like, you know, upping her. She's like, wow. Listen, she. Kelly. She is. My. My is a boss. Yes. They've got not one, but two locations here. Let me mime out what it was like for me to eat the food. Oh, no, Shamia, please don't do another bit.
Heather
Please don't shoot me as mime theater. So Cynthia's asking Pinky about her veganism and how that works. Basically, she's like, do you eat this? No, that's chicken. So you don't eat chicken? Vegans don't eat chicken? Nope, Nope. Vegans don't eat chicken. Do you want some cheese at least? Yep. We don't. We don't eat that. Okay, so you don't eat potatoes, right? We do eat potatoes. Vegans eat potatoes. We do. We do. Okay, what about this? Not chicken.
Tom
That's the chicken again. That's the chicken again.
Heather
But Mr. Potato was a person, so it's okay to eat people, but not chickens. I'm very confused.
Tom
What about steak? That's, like, the epitome of what we don't eat.
Heather
Okay, but you eat cheesesteak, right? Because cheesesteak is made out of cheese. Okay, Cheesesteak is not made out of cheese, and I don't eat cheese either. But you're a vegan. Exactly.
Tom
You don't eat cauliflower, though, right? No, that's. I do eat cauliflower, but it's a flower, and that's a living thing.
Heather
So Drew's like, well, I don't know what's in this chicken, but one thing I can say about Kelly, she knows how to fry. Pinky's definitely missing out. Okay, so now Cynthia calls Portia, and they put her on speakerphone, and Cynthia's like, portia, I'm sitting here behind beside Phaedra, so say hi to her. And Angela's like, you should be here, Portia. Kelly goes, well, she wants to know what's happening. She's. She should have been here instead of being on the phone.
Tom
And Angela. So now they're passing the phone around. They eventually pass this phone to Kelly, and he's like, oh, hello, Ms. Williams.
Kelly
And Portia goes, oh, congratulations, waffle queen.
Tom
Oh, thank you so much. Is that really a congratulations, cuz? Where are you?
Kelly
She's, oh, yeah, well, I put my money where my mouth is. So I sent you some flowers because,
Tom
oh, the flowers are broke all up, child.
Kelly
She goes, goes, oh, my God, what happened to them?
Tom
She goes, well, broken flowers from a broken person like Kelly. You're the one who called her horsea. Like, I get that Kelly wasn't. I get that Kelly wasn't resolved after the dirty tea luncheon, and that's fine. But you called her horseshoe behind her back. Portia found out. And now you're upset at Portia for being upset that you called her horse. And I understand you're also upset that she accused you of sleeping with a married person. But, like, you did call her horseshoe behind her back. Like, you have to acknowledge that. You have to acknowledge that you are going and saying things behind Portia's back.
Heather
And you also started the. You also said the sleeping with married men thing.
Tom
Exactly.
Heather
Whether you were right or not so right.
Tom
That's what I'm saying. You're saying stuff behind Portia's back, and Portia's having a negative reaction to it. And then you're acting like you're the victim here.
Heather
Yeah. So, Andrew, Angela's like, well, she should just say horseshoe to her face, you know? And then Kelly was like, just take those flowers and shove them up your ass. And Kelly's saying, those flowers, I could care less. You want to support me no matter how. No matter how that makes you feel, Then you'd be here. Come buy something. I don't want these goddamn flowers. Flowers aren't going to pay the bills. That's when I was like, so people are paying for this? Because I'd be pissed.
Tom
Yeah.
Heather
So now everybody is leaving, the thing's over, and Shamia is talking to Drew. And Shamia's like, oh, I can't wait to see your movie. Even though you didn't invite me, but I would love to see. And why would she invite you?
Tom
Yeah.
Heather
On a different level this season, Samia and Kelly, like, you're acting like you're so surprised that people don't like you. You came for them. So Drew's like, well, we haven't been talking, you know, And I mean, it should be genuine, right? I mean, like, only genuine people get to watch Run, right?
Tom
It's a very exclusive.
Heather
Only about 20 people are going to see it, So I need to make sure I really like all 20.
Tom
She goes, well, I'm just teasing. It's like, you are not teasing, Shamia. You are really obsessed. Drew's like, well, you said some hurtful things. Just, well, you have two Drew. So they start to argue, and then her mom, Shamia's mom, comes over, and her mom is like, all right, stop it. And she. Her mom's like, literally has the face of a mom who's talking to two 6 year olds that are fighting in the backyard. She's like, stop. At both of you. And she was like, I don't mean to hurt your feelings. If I ever lend an apology, it's coming from a real place. And she goes, my previous apology was genuine. I mean, I was really genuine. And that takes a lot of energy to do that. And I move on from things I'm able to truly forgive. Do you move on? Because you just complained about how no one lets you move on last year, which was inherently an example of how you did not move on. So the mom is like, no, you have to.
Heather
The mom is giving a speech. She's like, these. These girls need to come together through thick and thin. She, like, gives this big speech. I'm like, call Portia's mom.
Tom
Mom.
Heather
Speech, lady. Okay, you call Portia's mom. I want to Hear that play out. I need some mom drama on this show. So Shamia saying her apology was genuine with everybody. It was a YouTube apology. Shamia, there is nothing less genuine than a YouTube apology. I can't with that. And she's like. And you know who has it in their heart to keep disliking somebody? You still don't like Porsche. And you're still. You're still coming in shady with Drew. So you.
Tom
Have you met a Real Housewives fan? Like, when we get a grudge.
Heather
Yeah.
Tom
That's gonna go on for 12 years. I'll tell you. We pick our sides.
Heather
So we see a clip of Michelle honoring, you know, doing her honoring speech or whatever at the country music things. And then the next day, she calls her husband, and she's in a hospital room. We hear sirens, and she's like, hey, Kistan, it's me. I might be in the hospital when you call, but please, please get here as soon as you can. So now she's saying that yesterday I went for the red carpet and Billboard, the record label being on stage to now I'm an open wound, literally. So the doctor comes in and he's like, basically, where you previously had surgery is now infected.
Tom
Yeah. And what. Basically what happened was she was. She was backstage in a robe, about to go on stage, and she's. She was sitting on a sofa, and she stood up and, like, there was, like, a puddle of wetness, which is.
Heather
I.
Tom
That's like. Gotta be terrifying. Like, something like that happens. And, you know, you've got to go out on stage and you're trying to make a splash in a room of, like, you're trying to. You're trying to, like, make a splash in an area that you. You're not established and has not always been super friendly to, like, people of color. And, like, you've got all this stuff already weighing on you, and then on top of that, you're, like, infected in the booty. I mean, I felt so bad for her when she told this story. I was like, that this must have been awful for her.
Heather
Yeah. And so she starts crying, and she's like, oh, my God. I'm just. This sucks because I did this to myself. And she says that she got her. Her body done trying to get a butt that she already had, and she got illegal silicone injections, trying to overdo it and expand her butt. And then basically, I guess it got infected. Yikes.
Tom
Yeah, that's.
Heather
That's.
Tom
Yeah, that's harsh. And she's really, like, upset about it. And I feel bad for her, but that's actually where it ends. It ends on, like, this scary, sad note of an otherwise very funny and silly episode. So, yeah. Okay.
Heather
Well, hopefully that was it. Yeah. Super sized Atlanta. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you now next time.
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Episode Title: RHOA S17E02 Part Two: The Waffle Truth
Date: April 13, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
In this super-sized continuation of their Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA) Season 17, Episode 2 recap, Ben and Ronnie (operating under their classic “Heather” and “Tom” personas) revel in the latest Atlanta drama: from marital crises and restaurant openings to "dirty tea" allegations and one very memorable movie premiere. With signature snark, impersonations, and Bravo-reality insight, they dissect relationship troubles, shade-throwing, and the ever-tricky dynamics of the Housewives friendships.
“Get rid of Derek. First he's mansplaining Mac and cheese, and now he's talking about how he humbled you.” (Heather, 02:38)
“I sneeze on your marriage. I'm allergic to it.” (Heather, 04:15)
“Can we just stop with the fertility story? Why is every... is this a Bravo thing?” (Heather, 10:36)
“Big dick and understanding. Yep.” (Tom, 09:27)
“You did also have like a Full on season of being on national tv, where you got to, like, say your piece... just let him do a stupid blog.” (Tom, 17:05)
“When you leave the fight and you're like... And then I said. And then everybody stood up and they applauded me.” (Heather, 21:04)
“Anytime the Real Housewives go to a fancy event at the mall, it just cracks me up...” (Tom, 25:45)
“Everybody knows black people always die first in the movie.” (Heather, 34:05)
“You were lifting the rug up and trying to find dirt... She was being ridiculous last year.” (Heather, 39:48)
“You’ve got all this stuff already weighing on you, and then on top of that, you're, like, infected in the booty. I mean, I felt so bad for her…” (Tom, 50:28)
With their usual mix of Bravo devotion and barbed comedy, Ben and Ronnie (as Tom and Heather) offer deadpan commentary, wild impersonations, and moments of genuine empathy—particularly around more serious RHOA storylines. Their take is loving but irreverent, laden with Housewives inside jokes, callbacks, and running gags.
This episode is packed with the best and worst of Housewives life—shady showdowns, wonky relationships, reality TV hustle, and surprisingly raw moments. The hosts keep it brisk, funny, and insightful, never letting the parade of shade and drama outpace their affection for the genre or its cast.
Perfect for Bravo fans seeking a hilarious, in-depth, unfiltered recap that skips the filler and highlights the juiciest, weirdest, and most revealing moments of RHOA.