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Ronnie
Well, hello and welcome to watch what happens. I'm Ronnie. That is Ben. Hello, Benuni. How you doing there?
Ben
Hey, how are you? Good.
Ronnie
Everybody, welcome to Real Housewives of Ruth island day. If you want this on video or you want bonus episodes, this week will be Top Chef. Or if you want ad free listening or a discord server access, which is a fun place to go talk, or a free weekly newsletter slash blog recap thing, go over to patreon.com watch what crapons. And today is Real Housewives of Rhode Island Season 1, Episode 3, Saturday Night Fever Dream. It is our second Studio 54 party in a week on Bravo. They're really leaning into that studio 54 time.
Ben
What was the other one?
Ronnie
Rachel's Zoe's party on? Oh,
Ben
you're right. You're right. Well, here we are in episode three and we finally got our taglines. Actually, we had our taglines for Atlanta. It just occurred to me we forgot to even say what they were. Okay, well, next week on Atlanta, we'll give you guys the taglines. This week we here are the Rhode island taglines. We start with Kelsey. Who says, who needs a sugar daddy when my life is this sweet? Like your life is that sweet because of your sugar daddy. I hate to break it to you.
Ronnie
So you have a sugar daddy and that is why your life is sweet.
Ben
Yes, yes.
Ronnie
And you're also cheating on the sugar daddy. Blatantly on tv, which is ballsy, I gotta say.
Ben
I have to say, like, I love the ballsiness to basically be hatching a murder plot on tv. Like, these guys are gonna plan to commit murder and like, get the guy's money. Right.
Ronnie
100. They totally seem like they're gonna screw. They're gonna totally murder this guy. I'm so glad you said that. It does seem like that. Yes.
Ben
Like, we've seen this movie before. Girls in the with the sugar daddy, she's upset. He's with. He. He likes the other. The other wife more. The other girlfriend more. Doesn't treat her with respect. She feels trapped. She meets a hot new guy with a big booty and then they decide, you know what, we're gonna rob him, go off to Mexico. Like it's happened. It's like it's right here. It's all happening.
Ronnie
Well, she didn't even meet the guy with the booty. She's already been with the guy. She's known the guy for years and years. So, yeah, it's like one of those. Okay, you go get the rich guy. We'll kill the rich guy. And they would have done it, but the guy's always out of town. They can just never get him.
Ben
They're just. They're too regional. They're like, oh, we would kill them, but we just can't make our way
Ronnie
down to Florida Airlines. God. Ever since they changed the seating on Southwest Airlines. Look at me.
Ben
Well, unfortunately, we can't take our gun through security anymore, so it's been real hard.
Ronnie
So Rula's like, I have a blessed life, and I'm a loyal wife. Yeah, but your husband's not loyal. What are you talking about? Being a loyal. You're a sucker. Okay? That's what you need to say. But I. I. My lips pucker, and I'm a sucker. You know, your husband is cheating on you. He doesn't even deny it right now. Leave that man. What is wrong? What is going over there? Do I need to go pick you up? I will. Seriously, My Lebanese sister. I will.
Ben
I know. I was so excited for you that they had that whole scene of Lebanese women getting together. Especially that one lady. Oh, I love her. We need to see more of her. Then we have Alicia, who says, why? Why settle for just a slice when you can have the whole damn pie. Pie, slice. Why have a slice? I was sort of hoping she didn't say something about a cracker. Why not get a cracker?
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
You know, that's the way the cookie crumbles. That's why I also have a cracker.
Ronnie
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I like hers because I feel that way, and that's how I eat pizza. I eat the whole day.
Ben
I agree.
Ronnie
I just did it the other day. It was painful. I shouldn't be able to eat that much pizza because I'm on a GLP1. But I did. I somehow did.
Ben
We had a lot of pizza together the other night. It was great.
Ronnie
Oh, I did after that as well,
Ben
because I got additional.
Ronnie
Yeah. Like, I'm a food addict, so it's like heroin addicts, you know? Like, you have a taste, and then you're like, I'm back. I'm back. So I had that pizza, and it was like, ever since then, I've been eating pizza and chocolate reasons, of all things. Oh, I love a chocolate reason. So anyway, yeah, that's a little personal, but that's where I'm at. So Alicia. Yeah. Okay. We did her.
Ben
So Ashley's like, ronnie, talk about tmi. Chocolate reasons. You crossed the line.
Ronnie
Choco binging. I'm basically binging. I'm Dark path is what I'm saying. And Ashley is like, my life is like a romcom. When I'm not crying, I'm laughing.
Ben
Romcoms are dead. Romcoms are dead. Just want to let you know that romcoms are dead, Ashley. And we have. Rosie goes. I used to report the news, but now I'm the headline. Well, this must be a slow news day.
Ronnie
Seriously, what news is that? You're not even the headline on this show. What are you talking about? Basketball player. What's the headline?
Ben
I used to have a local lifestyle show on Saturday afternoons on the Rhode island television station, but now I'm the headline on said station on Saturday news reports.
Ronnie
Like, I'm not trying to be mean. I just mean what I say.
Ben
And finally, Liz in the ocean state,
Liz
I dispense the lead and the truth.
Ben
All right, my favorite. Let's see. I think ashes may be my. Not ashes. Ugh, not ashes. Alicia's. I think Alicia's my favorite. Why settle for a slice when you can have the whole pie?
Ronnie
Yeah, that's a good way to live life. So Rosie and Rich are washing the pink jeep outside. And what. What's with people on Bravo washing their own cars? The past few weeks, it's been Erica, Jane, Joe from Southern Hospitality, now this person. Why am I subjected to people washing their own cars? These are supposed to shows about rich people minus Southern hospitality.
Ben
Yeah, well, you know, this economy, even the rich people have to wash their own cars, I guess.
Ronnie
So they're washing it. And then Joe, Ellen and Gary are drinking wine by their pool. And she's still pissed that Brian sent an email to her work trying to get her fired from the esthetician machine rental store. Whatever she does.
Ben
Yes.
Ronnie
And then they tried to get me to not deliver a laser. Oh, they've got another thing coming.
Ben
And then we see Liz and Jerry. They're biking through Roger Williams park. And there. But we go, wake up. GoPros go. And. And Jerry's like, nice butt, babe. Baby's got a little back there. Okay, Too early to go skinny dipping.
Liz
Ah, come on, Jerry.
Ben
And then we go back to Ashley and Jared and they go to. They. Ashley is visiting Rosie and Rich, and so they're saying hello and everything. And Rosie's like, my God, our house. I mean, here was the plan. I was like, I'm selling my condo and I'm going to, like, Ms. So Mike. And he was like, I'm going to sell one of my condos. And we're like, okay, let's buy A house. And then so Rich finds like a one bed, one bath over a three car garage. And he's like, I'm, by the way, why do you, why do you have a three car garage with one bed, one bath above it? Okay, that's a different. I don't understand the logistics of that.
Ronnie
Because a straight guy built it. That's how straight guys are. They'll like get a BMW but then live in the cardboard box at the same time.
Ben
So it's for three people. So. But then he's like, but now he wants to add 5,000 square feet to it. Like, Rich really likes to flip houses. And so like he'll flip one and then it's like he's done with that and he sells that and he'll go to another one. But like, I wasn't planning on that being my new lifestyle choice.
Ronnie
Yeah, well, you married a flipper. That's what you're going to do. So the men are outside because they're men, you know, And Jared's like, oh, wow, you want to talk about square footage on this one? You don't have to make that noise here, bro. Okay, Just be, just be confident. Be confident in yourself.
Ben
Yeah. So Rosie is, she's saying, you know, so by the way, I haven't talked to you since the winery. I mean, for the most part we did have a pretty nice day right now. She's like, yeah, it was nice. Why am I crying right now? I don't know. But honestly, I, I feel like the majority of the lunch there was just like, there were so many questions and like followup questions I could have asked, but I didn't. She. Yeah, but I, I do think it was crazy the way that Kelsey admitted polyamory. And then Ashley's like shocked by this cuz she's like, you know, at one point, like Rosie says, like, oh, you walk like a polyamorous duck. You sound like a polyamorous duck. You quack like a polyamorous duck. You're a polyamorous duck. Which by the way, I like the idea of a polyamorous duck. But then Ashley is also like shocked by this. She's. I forget what she says, but she says something like, this is like super polyamorous. Like, oh my God, she's like in a poly. You were on the Bachelor.
Ronnie
No, about polyamory. But even worse, you were on the Bachelor in Paradise, which is like, you're literally dating five people at one time and so is he. I know Ashley acting like, oh my God, that's crazy. From the world of the Bachelor, you. You were one of 30 people dating one guy.
Ben
Ashley, you're in polyamory. The game. I mean, what are you talking about?
Ronnie
Yeah. So she's like, wow, plot twist of the century. And Rosie says, I actually felt bad for Jo Ellen because I never saw that one coming because of the whole Rula thing. And then we go back to Joellen talking to her husband Gary, and she's like, yeah, the other day when we were at the vineyard, I mean, we did all these things. We're on the bus. We had so much fun. And then literally after the vineyard tour, Kelsey's like, by the way, in about seven seconds, Rula's gonna be at lunch. And now I don't know that she and l. Liz, you know, Liz and Kelsey all went to dinner, like, a couple days before, and I just wish that somebody had said something to me.
Ben
So now we go back to Liz and Jerry bike riding, and Liz like,
Liz
jerry, why are you so far behind me?
Ben
And he's like, just relaxing. Baby, maybe you should do the same.
Liz
Well, as you know, it's almost impossible for me to relax. Come on, Jerry.
Ben
It's like, whoa. Was. Was there any drama?
Liz
Yeah, the drama was all mine. Alicia's, like, asking about the rumors, and you know what? It's all Jerry.
Ronnie
So she's like, the rumors are about Dino with me. Like, we have this Tory the fair. It's a mortifying accusation. You wonder everywhere you go. You know, you go shopping or you go here, and you're like, what are they really thinking of me? Well, you've got a braid on top of your head, and you're drinking out of a silver chalice from medieval times. So I think that no matter when you walk into a store, people are going to wonder what the fuck is going on with you. Okay.
Ben
I think at all times, but, like, what is this? Who is this lady? Who is this cartoon character who just walked in?
Ronnie
So, like, a housewives version of a Spartacus extra? Like, yeah, people are wondering what's going on.
Liz
It just gets to be too much, Jerry. And yet to have a good friend of mine, like Alicia, just set me off.
Ben
He's like, yeah, I get where you're coming from.
Liz
Jerry and I spent every waking, sleeping minute together for 14 years. And then Jerry saw this passion of sport fishing. That passion took him away three weeks out of four for a few years.
Ben
What is this, like, 1813? He went on a whaling expedition. Why is it taking away for three weeks every month?
Ronnie
How is that possible? You have A man who goes sports. Sports fishing. Three weeks out of four.
Ben
What? Moby Dick is dead?
Ronnie
Seriously, He's Captain Ahab out there. He's like, I will find that well. I will find that well, thank you.
Liz
We've been through this.
Ronnie
But I love Dino. You know, he's been on our lives for 20 years. When Jerry was gonna be gone, it wasn't uncommon for him to actually call Dino and say, look after our vagina. So, you know, we would be out three or four times a week sometimes. I'm sure people spotted us at clubs. You know, sometimes just the two of us.
Ben
O.
Liz
I mean, I know it looks cool, sexy story and everything, but look at me. And look at, you know, you say sexy, sexy, sexy, right? But really, at the end of the day, you get spray tans to spray tans. Okay, so let's move on from it. There's so many other amazing things happening coming up in our lives. I mean, the Studio 54 party.
Ronnie
Jerry, he's like, yeah, Jerry's turn to 54. He loves music, he loves to dress up, he loves to dance. 54 at Studio 54.
Ben
So we see a flashback and Liz invites everyone.
Liz
I gotta come to the Studio 54 party, guys.
Ben
So now we're back to this pond and he's like, you're beautiful, babe. I'll give you that. I am one lucky man.
Liz
It's like, yeah, thank you. Probably should have worn a bra today, huh?
Ronnie
So now we go back to Rosie's and they're talking about their outfits.
Ben
For some, that's gonna be also like her line of greeting cards. Every card will just be a different image of something. It'll be like a sheep on a treadmill.
Liz
I'll be like, probably should have worn a bra today. Happy birthday.
Ronnie
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Ronnie
So we go back to the other conversation, and Ashley is like, oh, my God, Jared has no bell bottoms. I mean, how can I marry a
Ben
guy without bell bottoms?
Ronnie
Does he even love me? It's like, you want to see riches? I'm really nervous about tomorrow. I mean, what if they bring Rula? She's like, oh, my God, Rula's mad at Joellen. Oh, but she's gonna have to see her at the disco party. What if people fight?
Ben
So now we're back with Poolside Joellen and Gary. And Joellen's like, I think that they're really all going to be at Liz's Studio 54 party. I was like, well, good, I can talk to him then. And so she says, brian Ruler's husband told my job that I am accusing him of having an affair, which he is, by the way. And Brian wrote an email to the marketing team, which I then I fought that. Who then voted to meet. I'm like, well, Joellen, they're in marketing. They're all about getting the message out. Sorry, it's all.
Ronnie
Also, I love that he sent it to the marketing team. Well, how is that trying to ruin your life? Like, wouldn't you send it to, like, the CEO or the owner of the company? Like, I'm sending it to marketing. That'll fuck her.
Ben
Yeah. Just in case they were going to put her on the brochure. Not so much anymore.
Ronnie
Did he just go to the website? Did he just go to the website and look for, like, the contact email for inquiries?
Ben
He must have that he actually. He must have, because those emails are going to go to the marketing Team, right? Contact at, like@penisbotox.com, whatever it is.
Ronnie
Yeah, like, hello@scrotox.com.
Ben
hello@crows crowsfoot begone.com.
Ronnie
yeah, so the email said, I would like to file a complaint about me. And then he reached out to another colleague at my company, who then. Then reached out to hr, who got back to me through boss because HR can't tell me.
Ben
What?
Ronnie
Wait, he then reached out to hr? First of all, what a rat. Who the fuck is this guy? And when are you going to roast his balls? And then HR got back to her through her boss because HR can't tell me. So HR called her boss and then her boss told her. What do you mean HR can't tell you?
Ben
Yeah. What, did they run out of their resources?
Ronnie
What is going on in Rhode Island? Here's something I have to say about this show. I think this shows funny and unique in a way, but I don't know what the fuck anybody's talking about on the show. Like, I don't understand the logistics of it. I don't understand, like, how you have a boyfriend that your husband hangs out with, but you're not really dating. We are clearly that guy. And then this other lady. I just don't understand, like, what are they talking about? If this other guy's having an affair, it's clearly having an affair, but the wife is going to refuse to talk about it all. I just don't know where they're coming from. You know what I mean? It seems like. It seems so Looney Tunes. It's hard. It's not like I get what every housewife is going through. It's kind of fun that it's a cartoon and they're also rich. And you're like, well, that's not me, but you. You still find something to relate to with the people. And these people. I don't at all. I'm like, what are they doing? What are they talking about? What are they feeling?
Ben
So I just guessed it on a podcast over the weekend. And when it comes out, I will. I will shout out from the mountaintops.
Ronnie
But.
Ben
But one of the hosts was like, I was watching Rhode island and I was like, wow, this is the first ever Real Housewives that was written by AI. And I was like, that's exactly right.
Ronnie
That is how it feels. That feels like they're just made up kind of characters that I. The plots are just so bizarre. Like, I can't really relate to anything. Which I guess is okay, I'm still entertained. But what the fuck is she Talking about? She went to a colleague at the company, reached out to hr, but HR couldn't get back to her. So they reached the boss. But the boss to be what?
Ben
Maybe HR is just. Maybe it's not Human Resources. That's just what they call. Someone at the company, whose name is Harriet Rinaldi, told Harry Ronald, you know, hr, but she couldn't tell me anything about it because she's in accounting. She's not allowed to talk to me. I mean, it doesn't make nothing. Truly nothing. Also, this is, I think, the first time HR has ever been referenced on Real Housewives in terms of people having jobs. Like, has anyone ever had a job on the show that actually required. That had an issue with hr? Like, you know, you've got Sonia Morgan selling toasters. She's not dealing with hr. Countess Luann has nothing even close to an HR and doing whatever things she's doing, you know, Like, I'm sure that Heather Gay does not have HR at Beauty Lab and Laser. So it's just funny. Even the idea of HR broaching the Real Housewives.
Ronnie
Yeah. Weird, weird show. So she's like, I don't appreciate her or her husband trying to fuck with my family. And we have three kids, so that is so below the belt. I know, but you sitting here talking about the husband fucking other people isn't great for their family either. I mean.
Ben
Yeah, that's true, too. Even if it is true, what you're saying, like, you're saying it over and over and over again. I was like, yeah, maybe I'll beat him up. Maybe I'll throw him off the dock. She's like, yeah. Oh, do it, babe. Do. I'll be so excited if you do that. You know, I'll fudge you for this. I'll fudge you. Throw him off the dock. One man off the dock, one woman on your dick. That's what I say.
Ronnie
So now we go to Kelsey, who is at a coffee shop. That's not. What's our other coffee shop name?
Ben
Audrey's.
Ronnie
It's not Audrey's. This is Bomb Cafe. Bitty bitty, Bomb, Bomb.
Ben
Somehow I feel like Jared is still there. It's like, juliana, Oatmeal coffee for Reddit. Juliana. Nope.
Liz
Okay.
Ben
He just interrupts. He's like, I have to always be preparing coffee. Always.
Ronnie
So she's meeting her boyfriend, Bill, and yeah, last week she was like, well, I mean, I'm just so lonely in this big house all alone. And now we find out that she's got a boyfriend. Named Bill. So he comes in. He's kind of cute.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
He's not, you know, kind of like a construction worker. Yeah. Just like, boring straight guy kind of away. It's kind of hot.
Ben
So she's like a stripper. Yeah.
Ronnie
Oh, especially later at the Studio 54 party, which. RAWR. So she's like, ladies and gents, this is Belle with my boyfriend. Like, we've always had this don't ask, don't tell relationship. But, like, I know that he's not being loyal to me, so if you can do it, why can't I do it? I'll tell you why you can't. Because he is paying for your lifestyle. So you. It's not that. It's not fair. Of course, if he's fucking other people, you should be able to fuck other people too. Bringing them on national tv, I don't know, is the wisest move. It's like rubbing it in his face when he's paying for you to live in a 60,000 square foot house. It's just not the same. Like, you're hired. You know what I mean? It's like. It's like the cleaning lady coming in and being like, I'm cleaning all day. Why aren't you cleaning? You're literally hired to clean. That's why.
Ben
Well, these two have a huge amount of chemistry. She's like, how's your mom? Did she pack your lunch this morning? She didn't. You know, she used to pack my lunch in high school. Yeah, I remember. Yeah. Ever since then, I loved your mom. She's the best. Like, wow, these guys, they have so much to talk about. Who packed whose lunch. Also, why. What? Why is it on the radar that the mom is packing his lunch anyway?
Ronnie
Because he lives with his mom. He lives with his mom is what I'm getting from this. Your boyfriend, he's too poor to date. He still lives with his mom. So you're fucking the rich guy until you can find a way to get some of that money. They are gonna kill that man. I think you're totally right with that.
Ben
My parents, they know exactly how my relationship is with my boyfriend. And I never lied to them. They really do love him, but they want me to have more for myself. So she's asking Bill how his sister is, and he's like, I got more boyfriends. More boyfriends? Yeah. My sister's doing good. How's Tay? Tay is with Mavi? And, like, when was the last time you guys saw each other? Has it been, like, 15 years?
Ronnie
You guys, I Don't know.
Ben
Conversation is this.
Ronnie
I don't understand this show. So she shows a picture of her, her nephew or whatever. She's like, isn't he the cutest little nugget? And he goes, yeah, he's handsome. Yeah. Well, first time I met Bill was in seventh grade. So my parents have always known him. And every time my mom sees him, she brings up Bell. She. Every time she sees me, she's like, bell, Bell, Bell, bell, bell, bell, Bow. Bell, Bell, Bell, Bell, Bell. And so we see a flashback to her mom going, kelsey, how's my future son in law Billy doing?
Ben
My mom just wants me to be with someone who will help me procreate, you know? So you feel like you'll be a good dad? Bill, you want some kids? He's like, yeah, eventually. How many? I wouldn't say more about than two. What about you? As long as I have a nanny, I would have as many kids as needed. I'm like, bad news, bad news, Mom. Once the other guy's out of the picture, there is no nanny for you, okay?
Ronnie
He lives with his mother. So she's like, well, Bill, always known that I was a relationship, but, you know, I'm keeping in arm's length until I kind of figure out where my relationship's going. Because I love my boyfriend, but he's never gonna budge on having kids. He's got his own, but I don't want to sell myself short of being a mama one day having kids. Can't.
Ben
God, he. He already has his own kid, okay? So she goes, I want to have kids and be married. And I feel like I'll never get that where I'm at. I don't know. It's been on my mind for a while. Yeah, like, Kelsey, don't lie. Nothing has been on your mind for 10 years.
Ronnie
I'll tell you that much. This girl. So he's like, yeah, I think you deserve happiness and whatever makes you happy. Make some big goal moves and obviously, if you need anything, I'm here to help you.
Ben
She's like, Bill, although he's very successful doing whatever the thing is that he does, you know, he can't offer me the life that I've been living without having to work. I don't have any problem working. I can do it. It's just. Do I want to? No. Kelsey, you've been in. You've been in this situation since you were 20. I don't believe you know how to work at this point. I think you.
Ronnie
That's a good point where, yeah, where did you ever work?
Ben
Like, sure, you can work at Carvel, but, like, you're not going to be able to fund the lifestyle that you're really liking right now.
Ronnie
She's ridiculous. And look, here's the thing with Kelsey and I hear myself talking and I feel like it's getting to. It's like veering on problematic. My thing with Kelsey is like, I don't mind if you're a sugar baby or you're like with a man money and you want babies and stuff like that. My problem is being dumb. You know what I mean? Like, if you're going to do it, do it right. You're doing this in the worst way. You've got some guy who's basically fucking everybody else. You know, there's a time limit on this. You know, you're going to have to. And you've always known, like, you're going to have to have a plan and your backup plan is Bill and you want to have kids. But I mean, you're just, you're just doing this wrong. You know what I mean? You just need. You need a better business plan is
Ben
what you really do.
Ronnie
And it doesn't mean a job. It just means, you know, work, whatever. You're working better because you're just doing a poor job. You're doing a piss poor job. And it's a little hard to watch
Ben
a literal poor job. You're doing a. You're doing. You brought in a poor. So then we go over to Alicia's house. Liz comes to visit and she walks in and Alicia, Alicia's like, hi, so good to see you. Don't mind the house. You'll see a lot of stuff everywhere because of construction.
Ronnie
And Liz walks and goes, whoa, whoa, what's happening here?
Ben
And we see the living room is like full of doll houses and all these dolls. I don't know what type of dolls they were. They were.
Ronnie
They're Bratz dolls. Were those brats? They're. Yes. They're not even like regular. They're not. They're not like a collection of different kinds of dolls. They're all Bratz.
Ben
Do the breast. I thought brats looked different. Those were Bratz dolls. Oh, my God. It's like, I thought brass dolls were
Ronnie
short hundreds of br dolls, you know? And this, this is the one that I can completely get behind is Alicia. I think that everything about Alicia is hilarious. And the fact that we learned today that she collects only Bratz dolls made my week.
Ben
That sh.
Liz
Liz is like, ah, what's going on?
Ben
She's like, these are my friends.
Liz
She's like, did you take them down for me to come today? You want, you want to show me your friends? Is that what's happening?
Ben
She's like, no, it's because of construction.
Liz
It's like, so you put these in your little living room, huh?
Ben
She's like, yeah.
Liz
I mean, she's like, that's crazy, man. That's crazy.
Ben
She's like, well, ever since I was a little girl, I really love dolls. They're just something very beautiful. It's like, it's like an art. I think they're fascinating. You know, look, look at the way they do the eyeliner and the EyeShadow and the three layers of the lashes. And everyone has a different lipstick with a little bit of shimmer. Like, I like, okay, I appreciate that there's artistry in designing a doll, etc, but like the fact that they have different like eyeshadow or like lipstick, it's like, that's not a huge amount of artistry. That's kind of like they were like, we need to make a new doll. Well, this one has red lipstick. Okay, let's give this one pink lipstick.
Ronnie
No, dolls actually are a lot that so much artistry goes into the doll making. I got. I fell down a rabbit hole one day. I think it was like tiktokers probably TikTok. And I was watching this lady who makes dolls. It's crazy what you go through to make it all. So I believe. I watched so many doll videos, I was like, oh my God. Three layers of eyelashes. Girl, get me a brat. Get me a brat. I see it now.
Ben
I. You know what? I misspoke. It's not that there's not artistry because I actually think there's artistry in like really almost anything that is like made for us. Like I think, think like, like a keyboard or a scissor. There's artistry in that. I. I sincerely believe that. But like Alicia is like so surprised that someone put the time and effort to change like the lipstick on two different dolls. I'm like, yeah, because it's like this mass marketed thing. They have to change the lookup. Like I don't know. I just like that she's like, wow, someone thought of that. I was like, yeah, you know, so it's. Yes. It's not, it's not to say that.
Ronnie
Look at that house. Can you believe somebody pa. Yeah, that's
Ben
what it's like, wow. Someone thought to actually paint it a different color. It's like, yeah, because people they need to differentiate it so that way you buy it.
Ronnie
And she doesn't even let her daughter play with the dolls because she's so in love with these dolls. And she's like, look at them. They got cute little outfits. They're like, outfits. I was like, all right, no judgment, okay? Like, you got your friends in the living room, okay? Like, what the fuck am I gonna do about it? How long have your friends been held captive? Just curious, okay? So they said. And they eat stuff. And they're like, oh, my God, I'm starving. I'm starving. I'm starving to death. I'm starving to death. I'm barely living right now. I'm literal bones and skin. So they talk about the winery, and Alicia's like, you know what? I hope I didn't make you feel bad, because I wasn't attacking. Okay, what's it attacking? You. You know, it's like people ask questions about me all the time, you know, So I would ask questions about you. That's it. You know, it wasn't an attack.
Ben
It. You know. You know, there's rumors about you having a. Having an affair. There's rumors about me running off a woman. You know, things like that.
Liz
I got it. I get it. You know, all I say about all this is, look, they can believe whatever they want, okay? They can believe whatever. I'm obviously very chill about it, as you'll see in the rest of the episode.
Ben
And she's like, well, it's like, you could ask me when I'm not married, like. But I feel like I'm an open book, like, some people might not be.
Liz
She was like, yeah, I know why you're not married. We've talked about that before.
Ben
So now Alicia talks a little bit more about her relationship. She goes, I've been engaged for, I don't know. My daughter's eight, so probably nine years. I don't know. I counted with crackers. What was my favorite cracker back then? Oh, yeah, it was Ritz. So that was definitely 2015. Yeah, nine years ago. So I got engaged right before her. And, like, I'm not planning a wedding because I don't know. Personally, I haven't had been successful relationships in my life. And growing up in a family full of six women, well, five after I ran over one of them, but five of them are divorced. And then seeing my mom, my dad not working out, I don't know, I just had my God up.
Ronnie
He made me sign a prenup. He wanted me to. Then he went to the lawyers and you know what the lawyer told me? You're not even going to see a single penny. You know, nothing. You know, he won't. He won't even put my name on the house. Okay, get the out of there. What is with the men on this show? Why? What is. What is happening here? Get out. Get out. Go to a different state if you have to. And Liz says, yeah, you know, she should be able to have an advocate for herself. Jerry and I are 50. 50 on everything in life. We bought the house together, business we built together. It's a no brainer. You know, he's my partner.
Liz
Every fish he brings back from the
Ben
deep sea, I own half of it.
Liz
Okay? Every single fish. I don't even have to do any of the work, but I own half of every fish.
Ben
So Alicia's like, well, make sure that you are never okay if, if you ever to leave me or cheat me. I'm not left without a house. My father did that to my mom. And let's be honest, I had to move back with my grandparents.
Liz
She goes, oh, so that's the story of it. So I don't remember how that went, but bingo. That's where your reservations come in. Bingo.
Ben
Oh, thanks, Sally. Justin Raphael,
Ronnie
I like. She goes, oh, yeah, I don't remember the story that. So that's how that happened. What do you mean you don't remember? You don't remember your friend being destitute after getting dumped? What the hell is.
Liz
Oh, yeah, yeah. Bingo. Just realize it's not your fault. It's not your fault.
Ben
Goodwill. Lizzing, or good Liz.
Ronnie
Yeah. So Alicia says that her dad has been out of the house and she was 16 years old. And when he left the mom, they sold that. He sold the house. And so the only thing she has left from her dad is his last name and his tempah, which may be a little bit sometimes, you know, maybe it's a little bit. So Liz is like, you know, I know you're not working right, that you gotta find yourself, you gotta fight your passion. She's like, well, you know, maybe get into pizza mama with Billy. That's my passion, you know, I love taking sexy pictures for pizza mama.
Ben
Yeah. You know what? You know, I hate that I have to ask him for money. It's a power trip, you know, And I always thought it'd be like a dream to be like a stay at home wife or a girlfriend in my situation. It actually sucks. So.
Liz
But quick question.
Ben
So, like, do you need any help with Jerry's party? Like, can I bring anything. Need some cracker? I can bring some crackers.
Liz
I can bring cracker.
Ben
You want cracker? I got crackers.
Ronnie
I like when she says. I like when she says, yeah, you know, I could get into pizza mama, you know, because I don't want to get in the kitchen or nothing, but, you know, like, I could do the decorating. It's a pizza shop. It's not like. It's not even. Like, we're not talking even buca di peppo level. Okay? It's a literal pizza shop with booths that people order a slice at the counter.
Ben
Really?
Ronnie
What are you talking about? So she's so Liz is like, you know, I. I don't need help, but, yeah, I'm excited for the party. You talk to Ruler, Ma. You talk to Ruler. Guy invited Ruler, but I don't really know what's happening there. So is Ruler coming? Everything in this show is about Rula. Is Rula coming? What's Rula gonna do? What's Rula gonna say?
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Ben
So now we go to Rula and she's like, everyone who knows me well knows that I love hosting, so I'm excited. I've set up a Lebanese brunch and I'm under so Much stress. I feel like I need these women around me because they know the culture and it's just effortless. I try to cook, but the catering definitely helps to. Hahahahaha. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't do it all myself. I'm like, hello, Rula sounds like it's 11:30pm and she's just barely trying to stay awake to finish.
Ronnie
Can we put a battery into Rula, please?
Ben
At first I thought she had morning voice. I'm like, no, she has late night voice. Oh God, that honey. Okay, okay.
Ronnie
She's a falafel, has more energy than Rula. Like, serious. She's just like, so that, you know, she's like potty, potty with my girls. So they're like, how's the kids? And she's like, the kids are good. How's the kids dealing with everything? You know, I mean, they sense the difference. They sense the difference. It hasn't been normal. It hasn't been easy to mentally process all the damage that can come with extra marital involvement, but. Am I crying? I feel like I'm crying. I'm breathing like I'm crying. A tea is coming. I don't know.
Ben
My life is blessed. I have, you know, I've had to make decisions really carefully to consider, you know, everything that we built together and especially the children. So. Yeah, and Stephanie goes, it's not you and him. We've been in Greek. We've been engraved since we were young. That your family is everything. Look at this on my chest. It says family is everything on my chest, engraved. And there's one lady.
Ronnie
I even got it on my key ring. Okay. I got it at Things Remembered. Family, families, everything.
Ben
There's one lady who's right next to her at this table. I don't remember which of these. I don't remember Stephanie or Ruler, whoever. I'm not, obviously not. It's not Ruler. I don't remember if it's Stephanie or Medi or any of these people. But there's one lady who's like next to Rula and she is so over the top. I'm like, I love this lady.
Liz
She's like, no, but you'll forget. Family's everything, okay? Every family ever. You gotta have family.
Ben
I'm like, please, please have her on every episode.
Ronnie
You don't just walk out the door when someone makes a bad decision. Yeah, you do. Especially when they're currently making it right now, probably in a parking lot of some Walmart. Yes, you fucking do make that decision. And Maddie's like, he made a mistake. Just stay strong, focused, and move the forward. Ah, friends like these. Jesus.
Ben
I've never come. I've never contemplated a divorce. Divorce is, like, definitely not rampant in the Lebanese and Syrian cultures. And the producer goes, but you've been divorced, right? I'm not trying to talk about that. My family wouldn't love that.
Ronnie
Oh, that was funny. The producers, like, you've been divorced.
Ben
Hello.
Ronnie
Like, I'm just trying to hold it together because people are sitting there talking about pictures and Joelle and, you know, the one who's made it her place to just be all in my business. It was on Instagram, for Christ's sake. So she's like, yeah, I don't want to see her at this party. It's just drama. Maddie's like, you go. You go with Brian and you prove to them that you ain't got to worry about.
Ben
You Go.
Ronnie
Have fun. Your body will go. That's what you gotta do.
Ben
Make sure those boobies swing. Like, the things on the desk with the marble goes up on the string,
Liz
it comes and slams the other marble.
Ben
The other marble goes up.
Liz
Bake out your breasts.
Ben
Okay? And Lo's like, that's right. Absolutely. I'm gonna do that. I don't know what you're talking about, but I'll do it.
Ronnie
She.
Ben
Yeah, no, you. You tell him Maddie will be after you. She's like, yeah, all of them. All of us will be after them.
Liz
Okay.
Ben
All of us will be the Lebanese mob.
Ronnie
So then Ashley is calling Jared, and she's like, is there any chance that you're gonna actually meet me for dinner? He's like, I'm leaving right now, honey. So he leaves the coffee shop and walks around right across the street to where she's waiting for him for date night. And she's like, well, God, I mean, if you ask any parent of littles in their 30s, it's like, yeah, I mean, every day is tough. And then you get to bed, and you're like. And then 10 minutes later, you're like, oh, my God, should we wake them up? They're so cute.
Ben
Anyway, let's get back to our amazing relationship. How's Audrey's? How's the ice machine? And afterwards, you can ask me how my day was. He's like, like, well, I called the mechanic, and he's just, like, a little backed up right now. And then the oven started making noise and might need a new coffee machine as well. And sometimes it just shuts off in the middle of the brewing And I don't know those. I'm like, what is. What is happening at this coffee shop? Why would any of us want to go to this place that's, like, stuck together with, like, tape and bubble gum? What is happening here?
Ronnie
It's a money pit. He's like, well, the problem with my insecurities is the fact that I'll come home from work knowing that I made, like, minuscule money.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
And you need to let me continue to work to make the extra money, because I'm making all the money. Yeah, I get it. I got it. He's like, yeah.
Ben
Rosella Caramel. Caramel macchiato. Rosella. Rosella. I'm sorry, honey.
Ronnie
Were you saying something, like, exactly like, what am I even doing? Yeah. It's like a burden being home with no one, you know? And, like, I hate thinking like that. So. I mean, look at all the stay at home moms out there. I mean, most moms have to stay home, you know, lose their gumbo gabonies. You know what I mean? He's like, but you're not a stay at home mom now. You do have a nanny. She goes, oh, well, still, though. I mean, he works so many hours, and he still doesn't feel super fulfilled. And that makes me sad, though. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Why? What are you doing? I'm squirting caramel into a cup. Honey, we're at a restaurant. I keep it in my pocket.
Ben
Chiara. Dirty chai latte. Chiara. Stop it. There is no Chiara. Jared, stop trying to avoid this conversation. It's not even his hours at the shop. The stress for me at this point is the fact that even when he's not there, he's like, I don't get his best self, okay? And, like, his mind is going crazy all day, all day long. It's crazy. Valentina. Valentina. Iced latte with almond milk. Jared, I'm in my confessional. You can't do that to me.
Ronnie
In my confessional last week, I asked him to bathe one of the children, and he said, how hard can it be? It's like dipping a biscotti into a tea.
Ben
And then he complained that the. And then he held the espresso grounds right up to the faucet in the bathtub. I said, it's not the right machine. You can't tamp it.
Ronnie
Do you know how many baby bottles he's broken from slamming them on the side of the trash can? I tell him it's not an espresso pod, honey.
Ben
I told him I wanted a bubble bath, and he gave me a milk foam in the bath instead.
Ronnie
It actually really hurts. So a waiter comes over with an electric pepper grater. And I don't know why they featured that, but he's like, would you like some pepper? And she goes, yeah. And he's like. Jared is like, wow, that's like the most Rhode island thing I've ever said in my entire life. When she brought out the pepper and it was automatic, I was like, oh, fancy. It's like an automatic pepper shaker. I'm like, damn. Wow, you guys got well, congratulations. This is the first time you haven't talked about your coffee shop in a sentence.
Ben
But, you know, the next episode, he's like, I invented a new coffee drink. It's a latte with freshly ground pepper. And you're like, on top of it. Rosie goes and has an anniversary dinner with Rich at Searcy, which, by the way, no way. No better way to celebrate your anniversary than to go to a restaurant named after the villainess of Game of Thrones. So
Ronnie
lady, her brother in Game of Thrones. So they order, and the. The order's like, you want panzanella? He goes, yeah, I want some panzanella.
Ben
And then Rosie and the waiter look at him like, oh, my God, this is embarrassing. I love being married to Rich. And we're constantly saying, can you believe we get to do this forever? This is so fun. But he is corny. And then I think, forever. Forever.
Ronnie
Forever. Forever. Our note. Our note. Lady for the day, Colleen. Hi, Colleen. Thanks for the notes. She wrote, Ed Cooley is the coach that Rosie was rumored to have sex with. And he apparently, it was like this big scandal and he had to leave town and move. He was the coach of the Providence Friars, which is so funny. I love that name. The Providence Friars. Listen here. The Friars have all gotten together. We can't have you here if you're having sex with the lady with the Saturday show, okay? We don't like a picnics, so get out. Get out. We're transferring you.
Ben
The Friars is a very serious organization, okay? So Rosie says, you know what's so crazy that I think about sometimes? I thought you were going to be, like, a boy, and I didn't really think you'd ever, like, propose and we get married. But I did want to get married, and I don't necessarily want to have kids.
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Ben
I'm like, wait, you thought he was a boy, but you still got married to him anyway. Okay, yeah, but apparently that's just.
Ronnie
That's just how it rolls. I mean, there are no men in Rhode Island. Everyone is putting up with an absolute man here. So he's like, I don't think it's something we should rule out, though. It's like, you know, I. You know, like, I have trauma, like familial. Familial stuff that goes back. But I never wanted to be a mom. He goes, but do you think your mom wanted to be a mom? She was. No, I don't. It's kind of my point.
Ben
Okay, so growing up, my mom was the primary caregiver, and if you weren't perfect, it was a problem. And I've never been perfect. And so he's like, well, you.
Ronnie
What were you doing as a teenager? I've never been. I'm sorry, I'm not perfect.
Ben
Wasn't that, like, in an earlier episode? Didn't she say something like that? Like. Yeah, no, there was some stuff like, I wasn't the best kid. Maybe that was Joellen.
Ronnie
No, Joellen said that Joellen has problems with her mom.
Ben
Said that. So Rich was like, do you think you would resent the kid if you had a kid? She goes, maybe. Which is very honest and you would think so. She said. She says that her mom is Catholic and Rich isn't Catholic. And she was like, I don't really care about that. But, like, they weren't gonna have a Catholic wedding. But then the mom was like, oh, you better have a Catholic wedding, otherwise you're disowned. And so then she's like, fine, we'll have a Catholic wedding. And then that's, you know, then they, like, had it. And then she's like, wait, this isn't normal. So basically what Rosie is saying is that she's basically like the daughter in law of Posh Spice at this point. She's like, I didn't get to have the wedding that I wanted. She's like. She's like Nicola Peltz. She's like, my mother ruined the entire wedding.
Ronnie
Then she started Dirty dancing with Rich. So weird.
Ben
So he's like, be the Brooklyn.
Ronnie
But yes. She's like, well, I don't want to turn into that. Yeah, I know, but that would have been weird if the mom started dirty dancing with her, right?
Ben
Yes.
Ronnie
Sometimes not everything works like that. Okay, so Rosie's like, oh, I don't want to turn into that. You know, we've been on the page for so long about this. He goes, yeah, but your perspective might change over the next year. No, Rich if you want babies, you should be with someone who wants babies. Don't get with some lady who clearly is telling you she doesn't want babies and then. Then slowly talk her into it and then force her into it and to the point she has babies, she resents the babies, and then you cheat on her and leave her for somebody because you know they're not resentful and bitter towards you. And then she's stuck with the goddamn baby she never wanted in the first place.
Ben
Yeah, she already even admitted she'd be resentful. So he's like, well, maybe your perspective might change over the next year. And she goes, yeah, and, you know, and. And maybe that maybe it will change in the next five years. Because he's like, one year. She's like, five years. So he goes, yeah, but you say
Ronnie
five, five to ten. She says, five to ten.
Ben
Five to ten. Five to ten.
Ronnie
And then he's five to ten, girl.
Ben
And she. He's like, yeah, but at that. You're saying that, but at 5. At that point you'll be 30. I'm not gonna say the age. She goes, well, look, I'm very good looking for my age. So fine, I'll say it in six years. I'll be 40. Sue me. I'm gonna look 35. I don't care. You can say my age. She's like, no, it's not that you're gonna look so good in that many years. It's. You won't have much more time left to have a baby.
Ronnie
Whatever. I'll look 25 then. I'll look 25. Okay. I'm going to keep getting all the lasers. Goes, but the baby might. You might have trouble getting pregnant, but I'm going to look amazing. How dare you say I'm not going to look amazing in five years?
Ben
She's like, it's okay, we can wait. I'll still look hot. I'll still be a hot mom in like five or ten years. He's like, it's not about looking hot.
Ronnie
Yeah. So then we go to Liz's house. It's the day of the studio 54 party. 54. 54.
Liz
4.
Ronnie
And she's going over stuff with the party planner while other. All the ladies are getting glam at their homes. And Rosie's like, I don't really know about Studio 54. Here's the only thing I'm really certain about in life. I don't want children. Okay.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Ever.
Ben
I actually was like, I actually love this era because it's like, I Always thought I was like a drug dealer's wife. And then music stops and she goes, you know, it's like that movie, what's it? Scarface. Scarface. You ever watch Scarface? Scarface. She's like, scarface, Scarface, Scarface. She's like, no, you never saw Scarface. She's like, if it wasn't on the Disney Channel, I probably didn't see it.
Ronnie
I'm just right. No, I'm destroyed, Lisa. I'm destroyed. So Liz is getting ready and then her stepdaughters show up and everyone, everyone's talking about each other's outfits. Like, oh, Daddy, so 70s, look at you. So now we get a. It's a Bravo scene where everybody's just arriving, you know, for 20 minutes. Lula doesn't want to come to the party. What'd you. What'd you say?
Ben
Looking vaguely Studio 54 ish.
Ronnie
Not really. Not really at all. I feel like these people just wear these outfits all the time. Yeah, this seemed like a very appropriate. It's like an easy party for this cast, so. And they're wearing a lot of Amazon like this. The guys are all wearing the Amazon disco shirts, you know. And I know because I've had to go to these parties and I've bought these shirts on Amazon before.
Ben
We just bought blazers for the crappies. We understand the brands.
Ronnie
Yes. So rule is like, yeah, I just want to stay calm and cool, but, you know, they better not mess with me or they're going to see the Lebanese come out. I've never heard that Lebanese. I don't think we're known for, like, extreme tempers. I mean, I think Lebanese are kind of known for peace. No, like, the Lebanese culture is pretty peaceful. At least the one I've always been exposed to. I've never heard like, oh, yeah, you want to get a bit of Lebanese? I'm gonna whip out some Lebanese on your ass. What, are you gonna rule me and hug me? Too much?
Ben
Rule is gonna come for you. She's gonna bring out the Lebanese. So Rosie is like. She's like my look for. She shows up and she just. Just. She's sort of like a hot mess. And she's like, my look for Studio 54 is a complete mess. I'm so embarrassed by this. Like, I like to be an icon and this is not iconic. My original outfit didn't fit me because I was too fat and bloated for my period. Well, now I'm wearing pants that are literally way too tight and I look dumb. She's so unhappy. She's wearing. Yeah, she does not look.
Ronnie
She's wearing a body like a bodysuit.
Ben
She's not really matching the. The theme. Dina walks in.
Ronnie
Isn't she though? Everyone's just wearing glitter.
Ben
Yeah, it's. No, no one's really. Only Ashley is sort of. Sort of hitting it. And. And also what's her face? Alicia. They both look. They both look kind of studio 54ish. So Dina walks in and Kelsey is like, oh my God. I know. Liz and Dino are best friends. So I was expecting him to be here, but I think him being here is instantly reminding you of all, like, what people are saying. And then we have the flashback about like isn't, you know, having an affair?
Ronnie
She's like, well, the reason she wants him here is because this is her way of showing us girls, like, look at him and I, we're friends. He's friends with Jerry. Like this is normal. But listen, I mean, I pretend he doesn't exist, so I have no idea what everyone else sees. I just know I'm not looking at him.
Ben
Cuz he's. He is a mob linked as has been going around on Twitter. So that might be part of it. So then Bill and Alicia show.
Ronnie
Oh, let's read this. This is in our notes too. Oh, I love this. Colleen gave us some good notes today. So this is from the American mafia group. I guess on Facebook it says Dino, the big bully is a patriarchal family associate from Rhode Island. Faction of the family. An alleged major drug trafficker who operates under heavyweight Rhode island capo Matthew Gulli Metti. He's pictured here with his daughter, a little girl he fathered with Shayna Jenkins, who's. Oh my gosh, this is good. We're getting some Goss. Who is the ex fiance of a convicted murderer, former New England Patriots player Aaron Hernandez. Yikes.
Ben
Yeah, so. Wow, I didn't realize that. So he had a baby with Aaron Hernandez's ex fiance. Well, there you go. All sorts of interesting things happening over there.
Ronnie
Well, that makes. That makes it more sense that the husband's like, take care of her while I'm away. Has he been offering Liz's hit this whole time? Take care of her. Okay. I'm gonna be gone three weeks. That's plenty of time. Take care of her.
Ben
Yeah. So Bill and Alicia show up and Bill is. He's not where. He's just wearing. He's basically wearing like the pants and the. And the vest part of a three piece. Three piece suit but no shirt. So it's not Studio 54 at all. But this is, I guess, his attempt to look sort of like Studio 54. But he just looks. He literally looks like a stripper. He's like Chippendales. Yeah. And no complaints.
Ronnie
No complaints.
Ben
Looks, he's there, and I like that. Alicia's like, oh, my God. This is the first time I've seen Kelsey and Bill out together. Bill, Billy. I don't know what she calls him. Bill of Billy. I like her as Billy. Kelsey going, bill, this is Bill.
Ronnie
Bill, Bill.
Ben
This is Bill. Okay, Bill, Bill. Nice to meet you. Bill.
Ronnie
Bill.
Ben
But she's like, what does she call him? Bill.
Ronnie
Bill. Bill, Bill, Bill.
Ben
Is it Billy? Is it Billy?
Ronnie
She was like, bill's my one plus. He's not my plus one to the party. Okay. Like, he's really good friends with Jerry, and he's always going to be at this party no matter if I was here or not. So this is not our hard launch. Thank you. That was the coffee shop scene, I think. So now Rula and Brian show up, and everyone's like, oh, my God, Ruler's here. And Alicia says, I think Ruler showing up as brave of her. I love her. I think she's classy, she's elegant. But look at Brian coming in wearing two different costumes. Like, one Studio 54. The other one's the faithful husband. Oh, burn, Burn, Burn. That was a brat, right?
Ben
Brian looks terrified. He knows what's coming. He is like a very scared capybara right now. Just looking around like, what's gonna happen to me? And Ashley and Jared arrive, and now she's like, I love my bangs. But, you know, I actually cut my bangs by accident. I was literally cutting the fake bangs. And I got my real hair, so I have this, like, one piece. That's my right hair. It's like, no one cares, Ashley. Like, literally no one cares.
Ronnie
Yeah. So then Jared is like, oh, wow. You know, that looks like a stripper outfit. But I did Chippendales once, and it was awesome hot. So then.
Ben
Have you ever done a lap dance while serving someone in a cortado? Oh, man, what a thrill.
Ronnie
So everyone's like, ruler, Ruler's here, Ruler's here. And Joellen's here. Oh, my God, it's Joellen and it's Ruler. Are they gonna talk? And all the ladies are sitting on this couch just right by the front door, just watching everyone come, and it's so weird. So Joellen sees them all sitting together and just waves to them and walks to say hi to other people because she's like, I'm not doing this right now.
Ben
Dolores shows up. She's like, hi, it's me, Dolores. I'm here. What's going on? Do you want something to eat? Okay. But then Gary and Joelle and Charlotte show up, and they're like, we're gonna go talk. They're like, hey, do you want to talk, Rula? So Dolores goes, I'm gonna go get a real diet soda. Bye. I'm like, I don't know what that meant. But Dolores knows when it's time to leave. She gets out. And then she just goes across the part. She goes, they're having their talk. They're talking right now. Everyone gather around. They're gonna talk. They're gonna talk.
Ronnie
So Gary is like, so, what's going on with Colin? Jo Ellen's work stuff? And R Goes, okay, Brian, you want to tell him what happened? And so Brian's like, go. Go ahead, honey. You do it. She's like, joel, it's like, I don't even know if you were even involved now, Brian, I know that you were, and that you called my work and that you wrote an email to my work. And he's. Brian's like, yes, certain things about me, which I really don't want to say right now. That was being perpetuated by her. And I happened to be talking to a friend of mine, and he's like, oh, well, I'll just talk to a boss right now. And Joel. And like, wait, so you didn't send an email saying, I want to write a complaint about her? Well, so he said, you know, send an email. So I sent an email.
Ben
She's like, I'm not your rep. And he was like, yeah, but did you call the company or. And Gary, who's there. Gary now has, like, a little mustache, and for some reason, he looks, like, 10 times hotter. And he's like, did you call the company, or did this guy call the companies? And Joel goes, he called the company. Brian's like, oh, no. And. And I. I brought her up. And. And so. So I. I called him, and, yeah, Brian called my colleague and talked about me. Well, my intent was not to get her fired. I just. He said. You know, I said, I mean, I don't know, like, Rula, you want to take it from here? Ruler? You want to do this? Come on. Really, you can help me out here. Realistically, things.
Ronnie
And Gary's like, well, what was the intent, though? He's like, well, I said. She said certain things. You know, can you have a. Like, Stop saying certain things.
Ben
He's like, well, I would have expected you to call me. And then I would have shut it down. Because she's a lady who listens to a man, and I would have talked to her. So when I hear it goes right to the tap, right to the. Right to the job. It gets me pissed off. She's getting called from Harriet Rinaldi departments, and, like, someone calls my wife's work. That's a huge fucking problem for me.
Ronnie
So the other girls are just watching Ambrose. He's like, yeah, that's not going well. It's not going well. Gary's in the glitter jacket, and he's like, yelling. So back to Joellen. She's like, we're not calling jobs here. We're not crossing that line. Like, it's not fun money. Like, he doesn't want me to gossip about his appearance. Okay, but he's gonna call my job and rub is like, can you just stop throwing things out like that? Joellen police.
Ben
Gary's like, because everyone's talking about it. Yeah, everyone knows, Rula. Everyone knows. And Rosie's. Rosie's watching. She's like, oh, my God, this is great. I should be a. I should be a relationship commentator. Reporting live, I'm Rosie Woods. We are here at the scene in Liz's living room. Details are unclear at the time, but it seems as though Brian Pontrelli may have tried to get Joellen fired. So Joellen's like, it. Look, Rula, if he's having an affair, that's not my problem. It's like, whoa, listen, listen. He had an indiscretion. It's what, under the bridge? Okay, don't let me bring the Lebanese out right now.
Ronnie
Well, don't take it out on me, though. She's like, I'm not trying to take it out on you, but what I'm taking out on you is that you're exacerbating and spreading everything. Okay, now, listen, I'm not naive. I'm not turning a blind eye. I mean, he said it was done. And I believe Brian, that is turning a blind eye. Joel's like, he's still somebody.
Ben
So, you know, you were very easy. You're very excited to spread pictures and hearsay. And Gary goes, whatever is going on with all that, I could give a. What I care about is my wife putting food on the table for my children. And Joellen goes, and maybe it's not done. You don't want to admit it? Fine. Fine, Brian. You don't want to admit it, but he's not having an affair.
Liz
He is having an affair.
Ben
And Brian's sitting there, like, his eyes wide, like.
Ronnie
Like, yeah, Joel is just calling it out right in front of the husband, which I loved. And the husband's like, oh, but doesn't deny anything. And Rula just keeps looking at him. And meanwhile, birthday's coming out, birthday cake's coming out, and everyone's singing.
Ben
Enormous cake the size of her airplane wheel. This thing was. I've never seen such a big birthday cake. It was a huge.
Ronnie
And they're still fighting. And Joel's like, oh, my God. Promise all my kids on my kids. It's still going on, really discussed. Sure. And she's like, brian, do you have anything to say here? Just tell them how it is, Brian. He's like, speak your piece, Brian. You know, we all have things that we do, and I'm not talking about anything. Oh, my God.
Ben
Joel's like, I'm not looking to hurt Rula. I'm just trying to protect her from a horrible husband. And everyone else in this group knows about this, and she deserves to know this. Like, I would want to know, wouldn't she? You rule is like, why aren't you saying anything? And she goes. He's like, well, what do you want me. I mean, you guys are. You guys are saying it all. You know? What should I say? Could you imagine you're being accused on TV of having an affair, and your kids are watching this, and you can't even. You can't even. If you're lying, you can't even say. That's a total lie. Don't do that, because my kids will see that. You can't even say that. You're just, like, saying it all.
Ronnie
Yeah, she's saying you're having an affair, and you're not denying it. Oh, my gosh. So just Joel's like, I don't care if it's not my business. Don't call my job. Okay? Don't call my job. So Liz comes over to break it up. She's like, oh, my gosh. What's going on? She's doing something here. She's doing something. And they're still like, don't call her job. Blah, blah, blah. So here's the thing. Listen. It's Jerry's 54th birthday, and we're gonna forget about this, because this is, like, stupid, okay? Someone's husband's cheating. I mean, who cares? Who cares? I'll.
Ben
I'll tell you what. Stupid Liz's future meltdown at the end of the Episode that was over nothing. This is about, like, an affair and about someone's job meddling with someone's job. This is actually a pretty high stakes fight.
Liz
And it was like, ah, stupid. Okay? Unless it involves fishing for three weeks in the middle of the Atlantic, I don't want to hear about. It's stupid.
Ronnie
Joellen says, well, this isn't about Ruler. It's about Brian. I just want to shake her. I want to shake Ruler, but I can't because the hair topper will fall off.
Ben
So Rula and Brian are like, we're gonna go. We're gonna go. And Brian. And Brian goes, yeah, Next time she's gonna say, I was at a Diddy freak off. I don't know know.
Ronnie
He goes, maybe. I don't know. I like that. He's like, maybe I wasn't a titty freak off. Like, I don't even know you guys say whatever you want to. Was I? Was I not? Why do I have baby oil? Baby oil in my pocket? I don't know.
Ben
Rula has no idea what he's talking about. Who's. Who's Diddy? So Rosie is like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. We were watching what happened. I was commentating. I was so good. I was actually so funny. And Joellen's like, yeah, Gary was good. He's gonna get laid tonight.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
So Rilla and Brian are now in their car ride home, and it's really awkward because, you know, I know you like to be calm and quiet about things, and I just wish you would have said something because Joellen was trying to put you down. You know, just, you know, I'm upset that Brian didn't say much, you know, Gary standing by his wife's side. Where's Brian?
Ronnie
Yeah, he's like, I wasn't about to start a fight with the female. She goes, it's not about starting a fight. Why didn't you shut it down? She's like, I wish he was just. Just more stern and defensive. You know, I wouldn't have minded if he'd unleashed on her. He's having an affair. What are you doing, Rula? Like, I can't with this. So then, yeah. So Ashley and her romantic relationship, they're driving home and she's like, jared, do we really have to stop at the coffee shop on the way home? He's like, only for a minute, baby. Only for a minute.
Ben
What are you doing at like 11:30pm at the coffee shop? Are you fixing the machine? Are you going on? He's like, I'm pretty sure my. My automatic pepper grinder arrived. I gotta bring it inside. So Kelsey is. Goes up to Liz. Liz is just, like, sitting, eating cake. And so Kelsey's like, hey.
Liz
She's like, oh, hey, I'm so glad you're here, because I want to go down the seawall with Jerry and Dino because he's still one of my best friends, and I want to have time with Jerry and Dino at the seawall because I want, like, people to see the three of us while we got together that understand that we're actually best friends. It makes sense if you think about it. Just picture it.
Ben
Three of us.
Liz
Jerry Lindino. Jerry Lindino. It all makes sense.
Ronnie
All I want is to go to the sea wall if she said seawall one more time. And Kelsey's like, talking about, oh, exceptions. Ongoing. What? Rumors. Ongoing rumors. Bye. Bye. Off Kelsey. Off, Kelsey. And now she gets up and storms upstairs, and Kelsey's like, what? What did I say? She's like, why are you mad? She's like, I wanted to be at the sea wall with my husband and my best friend. And you went, I think not. Because Dino, the ongoing. You know what? I don't have an ongoing. It's all lies, and I got nothing to hide. And maybe I do, but I don't. Maybe you have something to die, but I don't got nothing to hide. And I was gonna not hide it at the seawall.
Ben
And meanwhile, they're, like, in the bathroom of her. So we see her bedroom, which is a mess, which is fine, because it's like, party mess, where you put everything in the bedroom, Right? But the. Did you notice the paint job in this place? The room is black, but it was like. It was. Did they do it themselves? I feel like they didn't use primer. You know, like, when someone paints something, they don't know how to paint it, and there's, like, all these weird, uneven tones. The light hits in these strange ways. Like, I was like, you. Who did you guys use, like, oil paints from? Like, were you guys, like, did you guys use the proper paint? Did you notice? I thought for sure, Ronnie, you may have noticed it. Like, how?
Ronnie
No, I thought they just went into, like, a dark room, and then we heard. This is all stuff that we're hearing and not seeing, right?
Ben
No, but next time, go look at that room, and you're gonna see the uneven paint job. And I was like, what is going on in this room? It looks crazy in here. Aside from it actually looks. And it looks already crazy. It's like, base level crazy. And then the paint job is all like. I'm like, you guys are wealthy. Did you not hire proper painters? Like, what's happening here now?
Ronnie
So Liz is losing her, and Kelsey's like, why are you mad? And she's like, you go, boy, you know what? You. You go more. You got more to hide than I do. How about that? That. How about that? And so now other people are coming up just like, what am I hiding? My boyfriend's literally downstairs. And it's like, oh, yeah. The way that Kelsey stood up and says, this tool is said to be this ongoing. She says ongoing to me. That rub me the wrong way. She's tried to disinterrel story with Dino by pointing a finger at me. So wait, Liz has a story with Dino, too? I mean, Kelsey does.
Ben
See?
Ronnie
So Liz is like, you and I are two different people. She goes, since when? She goes, since you. Since you said, I'm going down there. Yeah, that's why I'm going to.
Ben
Who would have thought Seawall and Ongoing would be like the. The. The. The keywords of this episode?
Ronnie
So they ask her, how does Kelsey know Dino? And she's like, that's a great question. You have to ask Kelsey about that one.
Ben
Kelsey's like, this isn't what I wanted.
Ronnie
I know.
Liz
We never is. Kelsey, I don't give a anymore. Get out. I just want to go to bed and then go down the sea wall with Gino and Jared back up to bed. That. Okay, I don't give a anymore. Kelsey, just get out of here. Ongoing. I've got an ongoing issue with you that's like, oh, God. Ongoing.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
So Alicia's like, you know what? I never. I never. I'd never see Lindsay. Kelsey fight like that. Like, don't with her, because. Okay, you know what? Let's pack up and go, guys. Let's just pack up and go. I miss my dolls. So it's weird. I don't know what the Liz was on about either.
Ben
Liz was really upset. Like, the ongoing. You know, she was just drunk. Let's be honest. She was drunk. She'd had a long night of partying. She was drunk. She just.
Ronnie
But then what's this other. I think it might be more. Because if Kelsey has a thing with Dino, then she's saying, listen, and she's trying to keep her away and say, listen, you shouldn't be with Dino right now, because there's all this speculation. Maybe she's like, oh, really? You're trying to get Dino for me? I Thought that was. I mean, who knows what's going on? This show's so crazy.
Ben
Yeah, it's. It's a. It's a wacky, wacky show.
Ronnie
It's a crazy show. All right, well, that brings us to the end of this one, everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow for a little below deck action. I talk to you then. Bye.
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In this episode, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam recap Season 1, Episode 3 ("Saturday Night Fever Dream") of The Real Housewives of Rhode Island (RHORI), focusing on Bravo’s obsession with Studio 54-themed parties, the Housewives' increasingly cartoonish drama, complicated relationship dynamics, and the outlandish events leading up to and during Liz’s Studio 54 birthday bash. Ben and Ronnie deliver their signature mix of sarcasm and affectionate skewering, dissecting everything from cheesy taglines to bizarre feuds, and the cast’s dubious connections.
Ben and Ronnie maintain their signature playful, bitchy camaraderie throughout, alternating between incredulity and mocking affection for the cast and bizarre events of RHORI. The episode is a whirlwind of shady asides, off-topic riffs (from doll artistry to family law), and quotable drag comedy.
This recap delivers the full “Crappens” experience: incisive, ridiculous, and never taking the drama (or themselves) too seriously.
If you missed this full-tilt episode, don’t worry—Ben and Ronnie have you covered with every laugh, roast, and recap-worthy moment. And if you’re wondering what’s actually happening in Providence’s wildest social circle…you’re not alone.