#3313 Below Deck Down Under S04E11 Part Two: Drag Til Dawn

Summary

Watch What Crappens — Below Deck Down Under S04E11, Part Two: Drag Til Dawn

Episode #3313 | Released April 14, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is the second part of Watch What Crappens’ enthusiastic, irreverent recap of Below Deck Down Under Season 4, Episode 11: “Drag Til Dawn.” Ben and Ronnie dive into the yachties’ staged drag night, dissect the ongoing crew drama (especially around Daisy reaching her breaking point), analyze questionable culinary choices, and deliver their signature combination of Bravo superfan insight and relentless humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Kicking Off With Chaos: Drag Night Prep

(03:04–08:34)

• Eddie preps for drag: Eddie struggles to find a dress, prepping for the night's drag show, while Ellie focuses on baking a cake for Joao’s upcoming birthday.
• Crew dynamics spotlighted: Ben keeps loudly insisting he has Ellie's back, with the hosts noting, "It's his way of saying, ‘don't you dare complain to Captain Jason about me again’." (03:21, Ben)
• Joao as the 'high-stakes' lottery: The hosts poke fun at how dating Joao is framed as “life-changing,” with Ronnie deadpanning, “Who have you ever known that has dated Joao and come out of it and said, that's life changing in a good way?” (04:14, Ronnie)
• Daisy is exasperated: Frustration mounts over dinner timing as Daisy’s attempt at clear communication fails: “Why can't anyone say this to Ben? Annoyed. People should be less reliant on me at this stage of the game.” (06:57, Ben)

2. Drag Show Antics & Commentary on Drag Representation

(08:35–11:28)

• Straight men in drag, a tired trope: Both hosts express fatigue with “straight guys putting on a dress for laughs,” with Ben noting, “I don't want to say it's problematic, but... if you're gonna do it, make an effort to do a good job, you know?” (08:34, Ben)
• Praise for guest star drag: Tyler, the primary guest, “looks amazing” and gets kudos for actually putting in effort.
• Daisy’s tip warnings: Daisy is notably annoyed that Mike “spilled the beans” about Tyler using a makeup artist for his drag look, saying, “It was a simple request and our crew it up. Looks so bad on our team. I would withhold tip for that.” (09:58, Ben)

3. Cakegate: The Lemon Meringue Cheesecake Debate

(11:29–14:22 & 29:39–35:16)

• Ben micromanages Ellie: Discussions between Ben and Ellie over the “correct” method for Joao’s requested lemon meringue cheesecake spiral, with Ben skeptical about lemon and chocolate flavor pairing.
• Extended cheesecake banter: The hosts veer into a detailed, tangentially related debate about cheesecake techniques (“it cracks but who cares—it's rustic!”), and whether making a meringue-topped cheesecake is brilliant or baffling, particularly after Ellie’s kitchen mishaps.
• Daisy’s managerial frustration: Daisy is irate that Ellie wakes up early to bake a cake for Joao instead of doing extra guest prep to make up for the previous day's mistake: “If you're gonna wake up early to bake something, you should be baking something extra nice for the guests.” (33:08, Ben)
• “Let them bake cake:” Ronnie pushes back, arguing that if it’s on Ellie’s own time, “let my delusional girl live… Isn’t she suffering enough?” (34:19, Ronnie)

4. Drama on Deck: Crew Tension & Management Issues

(05:25–07:37 & 18:46–19:46; 40:15–41:34)

• Mike dodges responsibility: Both Mike and Alicia are called out for being inept and constantly bickering. Daisy’s exhaustion is palpable: “I can't really depend on you at the minute, Mike. I'm really tired. Please, just stay away from each other. I'm so tired.” (19:07, Ben)
• Daisy as ‘boat mom’: Her frazzled management style and inability to get basic tasks handled is a continual source of comedy—“She's just a mom. Just leave each other alone. I don't care who started it.” (19:42, Ronnie)
• Docking day chaos: During docking, Daisy finds herself juggling multiple demands and venting, “I can't be a hundred places!” (39:55, Ben), punctuating her mounting stress.

5. The Tyler/Mike Secret-Spilling Fiasco

(13:32–17:27)

• Who told about the makeup artist?: Tyler confronts Mike for leaking the secret about his drag assistant, but Mike blatantly denies it (“Nope, wasn’t me”), infuriating the hosts: “There are witnesses. There's a table of witnesses, and you're just going to lie? This is going to come back to bite Mike in the ass, or at least I really hope it does.” (17:13, Ben)

6. Joao & Ellie: The Most Confusing Breakup Ever

(18:07–25:52)

• Breakup in the bridge: Joao attempts to let Ellie down gently, resorting to wild, convoluted metaphors (“There's a train going down a track... I'm the train and you're another train... do you understand what I'm saying?” (22:19, Ronnie)), while Ellie seems oblivious, interpreting mixed signals as evidence of mutual attraction.
• Crappens critique: The hosts delight in the absurdity—with Ronnie summarizing, “He just acted like he gave her the best breakup speech of all time. Meanwhile, she's waking up thinking he just proposed to her!” (34:19, Ronnie)

7. The Ongoing Butter & Breakfast Battles

(39:02–40:49)

• Breakfast logistics meltdown: Daisy and the stews continue a never-ending squabble over who will bring up what food, with Daisy losing her patience: “Why can't they take the butters up? They've passed them four times by now.” (39:27, Ben)

8. Fish Report Oops

(41:13–41:49)

• Fish report forgotten: Tiffany was supposed to report on notable aquatic life seen during the episode, but admits, “I apologize for my dereliction of duty for this week.” (41:32, Tiffany)
• Running joke: This becomes a lighthearted parallel to Daisy’s grievances.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“It's like bothering your mom as a little kid. She’s just trying to get one moment in the bathroom and—Mom? Mom? Mom? God damn it! Can I even go to the bathroom?”
— Ben, channeling Daisy’s frustration (06:57)

“Who have you ever known that has dated Joao and come out of it and said, that's life changing in a good way?”
— Ronnie (04:14)

“Make an effort. Instead of being like, ‘ha ha, I’m just going to be a clown like you guys.’”
— Ben, on straight guys in drag (09:17)

“Daisy, I think you’re transferring a little bit of that anger from your crew onto Ellie.”
— Ronnie, on Daisy’s resentment about the cheesecake (32:29)

“This is where the boss takes you to talk to you… He’s like, you’re fired! Sorry, I got caught up in the wheelhouse action.”
— Ben, mocking Joao’s chosen breakup location (20:25)

“Why can’t they take the butters up? They've passed them four times by now. It’s like… Because they'd rather do the butters one at a time, toots.”
— Ben, exasperated about the crew’s inability to deliver food (39:27)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 03:04 — Episode proper begins: Eddie, Alicia, and drag show prep
• 04:13 — High-stakes lottery speech regarding Joao
• 06:57 — Daisy’s dinner timing breakdown
• 08:34 — Discussion about straight men in drag
• 09:58 — Daisy’s tip frustrations
• 11:29 — Cake debate, lemon and chocolate versus orange and chocolate
• 13:32 — Tyler’s secret-makeup-artist debacle
• 18:07 — Joao begins his bewildering breakup with Ellie
• 19:07 — Daisy snaps at Mike and Alicia
• 29:39 — Extended cheesecake instructions/personal assistant gags
• 33:08 — Debating whether Ellie baking for Joao is appropriate
• 39:02 — The “who brings the food” squabble
• 41:13 — Fish report missing
• 42:12 — Episode closes with sponsor roll call

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

Ben and Ronnie maintain their trademark blend of sarcasm, affection, and Bravo-specific snark. Daisy’s incremental mental unraveling provides an emotional throughline, mirrored by the hosts’ playful exaggeration of their own mild grievances (“Now I’m mad at her time management on cheesecake front!” (36:10, Ben)). The Drag Night is a mix of celebration and mockery, with critical but loving meta-commentary on Bravo’s plotting and the real-life futility of the crew’s endless small tasks.

However, amidst the chaos and clowning, there’s sincere engagement with both the logistics and the personalities of Below Deck Down Under, making this recap both hilarious and oddly insightful—even if you’ve never seen the episode itself.

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Episode MVP: Daisy (for providing non-stop comedic gold through her mounting exasperation)
Dish Debate of the Day: Lemon meringue cheesecake—iconic or ill-conceived?
Bravo Drama Grade: A+, for sheer density of mix-ups, dragged-out metaphorical breakups, and crew incompetence.

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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay. It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

[Tiffany]

So now we have Eddie and Alicia and the crew mass. And Eddie is basically looking for a dress because he's gonna be in drag. And then Ellie, meanwhile in the galley. She is now very focused on making a cake for Joao's birthday the next day. She's like, I need your help to make a cake. And he's like, all right, let me give it some thought, sugar plums. I've got you. Okay. I've got your back. I've got you. Ben keeps on announcing how much he has Ellie's back. It's his way, I think I'm saying, like, don't you dare. Don't you dare complain to Captain Jason about me again.

[Brandi]

Yeah, exactly. Well, although I know some boatman says normally don't work out, I would really like to make things work out. Wow. It's like playing the lottery. If you're not in it, you can't win it. Oh my gosh. It's not the lottery. You don't like, go to lottery. You don't go to the numbers and be like, are any of these numbers attracted to me?

[Tiffany]

Okay,

[Brandi]

I am. So I haven't got over the dream. Questionable. Joao is a grown man. He's like a high stake lottery ticket. Like, if you win, it's life changing, girl.

[Tiffany]

It's life changing.

[Brandi]

But who have you ever known that has dated Joao and come out of it and said, that's life changing in a good way?

[Tiffany]

Yeah. Who said, wow. I started dating Joao and I hit the jackpot. I think it's more like they say he just jacked off. Yeah. That's not.

[Brandi]

That's not.

[Tiffany]

That's not the pot. That's not the pot of gold at the end. It's just the. Geez, it's just the, the pot of sauce.

[Brandi]

It's just the pot. It's just a pot.

[Tiffany]

It's just an empty old pot.

[Brandi]

Yeah. So Daisy comes into the galley and she's like, ah, Ben, the makeup purchase is joining for dinner. I'm whispering that so no one finds out about that. And he is like, what time is dinner? 7:45. Okay. All right, perfect. 7:45. Got it. I'm never going to ask you that again.

[Tiffany]

So then Mike walks to the crew mess, and he's like, mike, possibly, will you MC this catwalk tonight? He's like, I'd be more than happy to. I'm going to go for a shower. I'll be back in quarter two. Can you guys get into your blacks and please don't bother me while I shower. Can everyone on this boat just do the simple tasks that they have been assigned for the next 25 minutes? Thank you.

[Brandi]

Copy. Copy, Daisy. Copy. Daisy, do you want to date? I don't want to date. Leave me alone, Mike. All right, you need help with the shower there? I don't need any help in the shower. So Jenna is doing Mitchell's makeup, and he's like, oh, my God. No one knows I'm getting help, so don't tell anybody. This is a huge deal on this boat. We're gays who don't want anyone to know we can't do our own makeup. It will ruin our reputation in the gay world.

[Tiffany]

It's. It is really hilarious. And so Jenna's getting dressed and Alicia goes into her room. And Alicia's like, I really, really need you.

[Brandi]

I.

[Tiffany]

Watch your head. No, I really need you right now to get it all done, because you took way too long to do the makeup. You assigned her the makeup, Alicia. And you're not even the one who is assigning. You're below her. Okay, so honestly, can we organize that later? Like Alicia? No, no, no. She was helping the guest. You put her. You elected her for that position. She did it to help you out. And now you're complaining that she took too long to do it. No, no, no.

[Brandi]

I love Jenna, though. Jenna's my favorite one on the boat. She just ignores her. She's like, whatever. She just keeps doing what she's going to do. And Alicia leaves. Alicia leaves all frustrated. So Ben's radio. Ben radios Daisy, and he's like, daisy. And he's like, daisy, Daisy, what time is dinner? She's like, God damn it. Cuz she's in the shower and she hears the radio. It's like bothering your mom as a little kid. She's like, just trying to get one moment in the bathroom and like, mom, mom, Mom. God damn it, can I even go to the bathroom?

[Tiffany]

It's exactly right. She comes out of that shower so angry. Say me. Jesus Christ. I've told the whole, whole crew. 7:45. Seven for cocktails and sunset, 7:45 for dinner. She said, yelling this into the thing, because she's like, why can't anyone say this to Ben? Annoyed. People should be less reliant on me at this stage of the game. But it seems like the opposite is happening. And this is another perfect example how they don't listen, they don't communicate, how they don't do their job.

[Brandi]

She's so funny. And then she, she, like, puts down the radio, and then she goes back to the shower and gets back in the shower and just goes, jesus,

[Tiffany]

I don't know how she does it, honestly. These are so just a boat full of morons.

[Brandi]

Yeah. So then Jason's listening to the radio. He's like, oh, I can't wait to do nothing about that. So then Alicia brings Eddie a dress, and he's like, hello, patoot, I'm a girl. And she's like, oh, my God, you cannot hide that big bulge. So obvious. He's like, yeah, you can call me Edwina. Why do we have to have straight guys do this?

[Tiffany]

I don't.

[Brandi]

Just know.

[Tiffany]

I don't.

[Brandi]

It's.

[Tiffany]

It's just not entertaining anymore. I'm not offended. I'm just like, it's, oh, like, the joke has been made so many times. Like, I just don't think we need it. I, I, whatever. I think that, like, if anything, we would want, like, like, the, the gays are doing drag. Do the drag. And I think. I think we'd want, like, the straight guy to be shirtless. I don't think we want to see him just, like, crammed into Alicia's dress. Right.

[Brandi]

I don't, I don't know how to pin, like, put my finger. I don't want to say it's problematic, because that's silly. I don't think it's problematic necessarily, but if you're gonna do it, like, I don't understand why the straight guys are always like, oh, I'm gonna wear an Amazon wig and some shitty. I'm just gonna look as clownish as possible. Like, if you're gonna do it, make an effort to do a good job, you know? There was one guy on Below Deck who actually did it. Well, I forget who it was, but he was, like, really proud of it. What was that guy's name?

[Tiffany]

Yeah, he was like, two seasons, I think, right?

[Brandi]

Yeah. Like, at least to make an effort, because it feels like they're just like, ahaha, you're all clowns. Which, I mean, they are, it's these gays, but still, like, I don't know, make an effort. Instead of being like, haha, I'm just going to be a clown like you guys.

[Tiffany]

Yeah.

[Brandi]

I don't know. Respect the art form, I say.

[Tiffany]

So Tyler joins everyone. Tyler's the primary and he looks amazing

[Brandi]

and he's a very pretty girl.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, he really. His drag was really impeccable. And so then they're like, oh, my God, here he comes, parading his money. Hey, Tyler, did you do this? Looks like you've done this before. It's almost like it was professionally done. Tyler. Tyler. And he's like, me? What? No, of course not. And Daisy's so mad. She's like, I'm not gonna be happy if Tyler finds out. Mike spilled the beans. Like, it was a simple request. And our crew it up looks so bad on our team. I would withhold tip for that.

[Brandi]

So. And now Mike is emceeing this drag knight. He's like, welcome to Night Ticket Drag Race. Anybody want to make out with me? Anybody? Okay, let's get on with it. Are you all ready for it? And so he introduces all the guests and they come out and they do a drag show and stuff. Angela Little Electra. Smashed Lady Bible. Veronica Black. And Melania Twinkle.

[Tiffany]

I felt like. I mean, okay, I thought drag names were like, a little bit more punny, but that's okay. These are fun.

[Brandi]

Yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, they're not. They're not very penny.

[Tiffany]

Well, very funny to me. I don't know why that's a funny concept.

[Brandi]

So Tyler's like, well, I just want to thank everyone for being here, especially my makeup artist. And so Alex comes out and they're like, oh, my God, she's a liar. Stoner. Stoner to death. Liar.

[Tiffany]

And then Jason is like, well, we might have one more contestant. And here comes Eddie in the dress with the Amazon wig and everything. And like, oh, like, big round of applause for Wiener.

[Brandi]

So they're like, yay, this straight guy got a moment.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, I like that. Like, Eddie got the biggest moment over Tyler, who spent like $12,000 to get this makeup artist in.

[Brandi]

I know. Yeah. Not only did they let his secret, they oneupped him at the end of the show.

[Tiffany]

Yeah.

[Brandi]

Boo. Boo. No tip.

[Tiffany]

So Ben is giving Ellie some march mortars about how to do this cake. He's like, it's a big project. Don't do the mering. Just do lemon and chocolate there. Those lemon and chocolate doesn't work. But orange and chocolate, that works well. Like, well, I asked him what his favorite cake is, and he said, lemon

[Brandi]

mering cheesecake and it's going to be nice.

[Tiffany]

I demand it be nice for our genetics. He's like, okay, you're going to be crazy, guys.

[Brandi]

The balls. All right, fine. Do it. Lemon and chocolate goes well together.

[Tiffany]

I never really.

[Brandi]

Yeah.

[Tiffany]

I don't often. I'm not. I don't. I don't think I've had it enough to have a strong opinion on it, but I feel like I don't encounter it very often.

[Brandi]

I feel like it goes together.

[Tiffany]

I once went to Orange county and I got, like, a chocolate cake, and it came with, like, a pineapple drizzle, and that was really weird. That did not work. I'll tell you. Pineapple and chocolate, not.

[Brandi]

I don't think I've ever had pineapple and chocolate. I mean, I know that orange is more typical, but why do I feel like lemon and chocolate? You know, I'm going to look it up right now, but you don't have to with me.

[Tiffany]

It's not a combo I have encountered very often, and I wonder if there's a reason for that, because those are not lemon. It's not obscure.

[Brandi]

Yeah, I know. I've had this, like, lemon bars with chocolate. I knew it. I knew I wasn't making it up. Chocolate lemon tart.

[Tiffany]

David.

[Brandi]

David, David. Lemon dust with chocolate. David.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, I guess there is a lot of lemon and chocolate stuff out there. I just. Yeah, much of it. I should try it.

[Brandi]

I guess. We're gonna have a new. New thing to cook. So, anyway, the point is, Tyler's like, yes, I had to make a paradise. Oh, no, no. So they're talking about the cake, and Daisy radios the galley that the fashion show's over, dinner's happening, so don't it up. What time is dinner? God damn it. So Mike and Alicia come to the galley, and Alicia's like, hi, Mikey. If you're looking for something to do, there's loads to do upstairs. There's like, nine guests upstairs and only me making cocktails. He's like, I'm not looking for something to do there. All right, bud.

[Tiffany]

So the guests are like, tyler, we just want to tell you that you're beautiful, naturally. He's like, what? At lunch, a certain deckhand told us a certain thing about someone receiving extra assistance. Hag. And Tyler's like, wait, who told you? It's like, Mike.

[Brandi]

It's like.

[Tiffany]

He's like, what the fuck? So, of course. And by the way, like, they couldn't let Tyler have his moment, even though Tyler is paying for them all to be on this Yacht. They are still so mad at him that they're gonna, like, pop his bubble right now.

[Brandi]

But I still don't get it because Tyler just said he had his makeup. He just introduced the makeup artist and came out. It's not like you caught him in some lie. He admitted it by the end of the show. So I don't understand why they're acting like they caught him in something. He just. He just confessed. It's like someone confessing to murder and then you being like, oh, my God, I think you killed him.

[Tiffany]

Like, I just confessed, but someone's just being a dick. Someone's basically saying, like, we always knew. Like, you thought. You thought, like, you surprised us. It didn't work. And I just think that's like a. Like he's paying for you, like, don't, like, let him have his moment for tonight. And then, like, when you get back to New York, you'd be like, oh, my God, that was so fun. And can I be honest? We actually knew, but we just wanted you to have that moment. He like, oh, my God, that's so funny. And that was so sweet of you to let me have my moment. But instead, the guy's like, yeah, so you enjoyed your surprise for, like, 30 minutes. Guess what? We knew. Yeah, we knew. So you didn't pull one over us. Okay, so. And actually, he would have pulled one over you guys, except that Mike told you. It's not like you found out because of your own investigative prowess. I'm so mad. I'm defending Tyler's honor over the rides that I ate.

[Brandi]

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[Tiffany]

You don't know? Well, this. I'm sorry. This is so shitty. Like, there are witnesses. There's a table of witnesses, and you're just going to lie? This is going to come back to bite Mike in the ass, or at least I really hope it does.

[Brandi]

Is Tyler eating a chicken breast? Is he just, like, holding a chicken breast? Like a piece of toast? I couldn't. Or was it a piece of toast? I was like, is that. Is he just, like, standing there munching on a chicken breast? I think he was.

[Tiffany]

Yeah. He's like, is how I learned how to eat it at the orgy. I did not notice that, but that's hilarious.

[Brandi]

Yeah. I couldn't tell if it was, like, a chicken breast or maybe it was a piece of toast, I don't know. But that was the thing that bothered me the most in the episode. So Mike was like, well, if I find out who said it, I'll come and tell you. And he's like, thank you. Thank you, Mike. Thank you. And he's like, truly, I didn't just get away with that, did I?

[Tiffany]

You didn't. You're. It's. It's not over. So Joao texts Ellie. He's like, hello, my dear. Can you meet me in the Zim Bridge? She's like, coming? I'm already There. I'm here. I'm actually right behind you. When you texted that I was over your shoulder, I saw the whole thing. He's like, okay, well, look, I know I need to break it off with Ellie, but I'm stressing because I don't want to be the reason Ellie has a shit time on board, and I don't want to hurt her feelings, so I've got to figure it out. Nervous. So meanwhile, Daisy's like, I'm going to bed now. Tell me if you need me. Okay, thank you both for today. That was sarcasm, you fucking idiots.

[Brandi]

I know what I'm doing. I've got plenty to do. She's like, okay, but we can't. We can depend on each other, though, right, Mike? And he's like, what? And she goes, we can depend on each other. It's like, guys only said, stop bossing everybody around. Like last week, when she's like, he's looking for. I am middle man. I am management. No, you're not. What are you talking about?

[Tiffany]

She is literally snapped. Mike. Mike is so terrible that it just takes away attention from the fact that Alicia is incredibly inept. They are just, like two idiots on this boat. So Mike's like, I don't want to have this conversation. I know what I'm doing. Mike. I know what I'm doing. Let's work this out tomorrow. Mike, like, I can't really depend on you at the minute. Mike, I'm really tired. Please, just stay away from each other. I'm so tired. Please. I love Daisy. Every time Daisy yells at Mike. Mike, you can't do that. Mike. Mike, what are you doing? Mike, be quiet.

[Brandi]

She's just a mom. She's just a. Just leave each other alone. I don't care who started it.

[Tiffany]

So the guests go to bed, and Joao and Ellie sit in the bridge in this, like, weird nook, very awkwardly.

[Brandi]

This is also a super weird place to do it. Like, I'm gonna break up with someone, so I'm gonna have her to the bridge. This is. You're not the captain of this boat. What the are you doing? Calling people to the bridge. Bizarre.

[Tiffany]

Maybe he was on anchor. Watch. So Ellie is like, oh.

[Brandi]

So I used to say that would make more sense. I got really upset. Okay, that makes more sense.

[Tiffany]

It wasn't. It's also, like, the least romantic space of the. Well, I mean, he could have done the crew mask, but I think of the quiet spaces. It was one the less remote.

[Brandi]

But it's just the vibes. You know what I Mean, it's like, this is where the boss takes you to talk to you. And that's like.

[Tiffany]

He's like, you're fired. What? Sorry, I got caught up. Caught up in the. The wheelhouse action. Oh. So you excited for your birthday that you will be spending with the love of your life and future owner of your genetics? He's like, ah, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I do want to speak to you, though. Oh, about what? Just kidding. I already know. I'm inside your brain right now. You find me beautiful. Yes, yes, yes, that's true.

[Brandi]

Shouldn't you be on one knee?

[Tiffany]

Here, I bought a little cushion for your knee.

[Brandi]

Hold on, hold on. I have got my mother on FaceTime. Hold on. Right here, you see, Mother. Okay.

[Tiffany]

Genetics are about to merge. We will soon be taking over this planet, selling all the vegetables for all of the Earth.

[Brandi]

Well, I like you, and I think that our Zimship and stuff is strong. And I guess I'm trying not to go back. Back to my I, I, I, I, I, I. If we continue, then I feel like I'm letting my weakness in, and I will be back on heroin and on the streets. Like, what? What are you saying?

[Tiffany]

I'm gonna let my weakness win? That makes literally no sense. It's like. Well, because I just feel like I just, by the way, just say, look, I love you. No, not love you. Like, look, you're great. I'm just not really feeling it. I think we should just stay friends. But he's like, but because I feel like, well, I don't want to close myself off to something that's great and then ruin something between us by allowing something to be more.

[Brandi]

And then.

[Tiffany]

You know what I mean? I mean, I'd rather maintain what we've got than to ruin. So, okay, it's like, you're going to Zim, but then you say, let's go to Botswana. But then you go to Zim, and you say, why did I go to Zim? But I love Zim. But I don't want to ruin Zim. I'm not going to date Zim. What I'm trying to say is, I would hate if things between me and Zim went wrong, because then maybe I can't go back to Zimbabwe.

[Brandi]

You.

[Tiffany]

You follow? Right.

[Brandi]

Okay. Think of it this way. There's a train going down a track, 30 miles per hour. I'm the train, and you're another train, and you're on another track, and you're going 70 miles an hour the other way. The trains pass, and then the trains get to Botswana and Zim. Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Tiffany]

Okay.

[Brandi]

That's our baby train behind Big train. Because baby train can wait with Mama train until daddy train comes home.

[Tiffany]

No, no, no. Okay. No. Okay. You are a train, and I am a train. You are going to Botswana. I'm going to Zim. And just as we're about to pass each other, I actually transform from being a train into just being a person running away from the train tracks while your train goes in the other direction. Does that make sense?

[Brandi]

Okay, think of it this way. You're a murderer, and I'm a little baby who doesn't want to get murdered. Please don't murder me. She's like, okay, so let me try to process. Clearly, you're having some doub. Kind of uncomfortable about things and whatnot. And so you know what, Joao? I think we should just be friends. He's like, oh, thank God. Yes. Yes. Thank God. Yes.

[Tiffany]

I mean, you know, I mean, if this was just a thing, then it would be easy for me to just carry on, but, like, there's more to you. And so. Yeah, I just don't want to. I just. I just don't want to break the. That part. I'm like, what are you doing? So now he's. She just said, let's be friends. And you say, you should just say perfect. Instead, he's like. Like, oh, no. But if this were just a. If this were just a thoughtless fling, an anonymous fling. Be like, whatever, because there's nothing. But you have so much depth to you, and I wouldn't want to hurt you because I know you as a person when you say that stuff. You're leading her on, Joel. So she's like, no, seriously.

[Brandi]

She's like, let's be friends. And then he's like, no, no, but we're more than friends. And I wouldn't want to ruin that because, you know, we have so much more than friendships. Like, I don't get.

[Tiffany]

Okay, so you see that we're in a room, right? And you see that there's a door. And right there, right? Notice that the door is open. And if you keep it open, you can come in and out of the room. And that's kind of like what I'm doing with you. You are the room that I'm going to come in and out of. And so. But for right now, I'm going to try to walk into the Daisy Room. And if that doesn't work out, I will come back into the Ellie room. You see What I'm saying here?

[Brandi]

You're saying you want to come inside me. Perfect places. And he's like, oh, God. Well. Well, if I like somebody, that's it. You know, that's it. I don't care about anything else. He's like, oh, yes, I see that. And I would still love to hang out with you. Nothing changes. Nothing. Nothing changes. He's like, oh, perfect. Okay. Well, then I guess we'll see what it is. I'm going to bed, possibly with you. Nope. Well, but you could if you weren't together, so. Damn it. Damn it.

[Tiffany]

I'll speak to you later. So instead of just saying, like, look, this is fun. It was fun to cuddle. I really just see us as friends, unfortunately. But that's really where it is. And I think you're amazing as a friend. He's like, no, I mean, you're great. And you're so. You're so special. You're actually almost too special. And I would hate. I would hate to take this. To take this special friendship, the special relationship we have, and just, you know, possibly ruin it. But it's just like such. It's like Such. It's like, over the top. And it's the sort of bullshit that doesn't give her any sort of closure or a clear understanding of where she stands with him. And so basically, she leaves this conversation by saying. So he says that he's attracted to me and he wants to get to know me. So I think we're on the same page.

[Brandi]

God. And he's like, I'm so happy that Ellie's taking me, wanting to be friends with her. Well, it just seems like a pressure release off my shoulders. I've got everything off my chest. I can see. Finally, maybe speak to Daisy now. No, you can't. You just told her you don't want to get in a relationship with somebody because you're afraid of your old habits coming back, and now you're going to immediately go get in a relationship with somebody. You idiot.

[Tiffany]

It's a lie. It's a lie I'll always remember in sleepaway camp. Long Lake Camp Long Lake Camp for the arts. In 1994, there was a girl named Miriam who asked me to date her. And I said, no, I'm not really interested in dating anyone right now. But then the next day, I kissed a girl named Kate. And Miriam, I just remember sitting on an Adirondack chair by the lake, and Miriam sat down in the chair right next to me. And she goes, so. And she tapped. She did the thing where she like she had her hand, her chin in one hand and then she tapped the side of the Adirondack chair with her fingers like this, like so. You said he didn't want to. Want to be in a relationship with anyone but you kiss Kate last night. And I. I always remembered like, oh, yeah, don't. Don't say more than you need to because of Miriam. Well, it didn't worked out well for both of them because I'm gay now.

[Brandi]

Yeah. God, both of them just destroyed.

[Tiffany]

Miriam was unhappy with me. I'll tell you she was unhappy. Yeah, she's okay.

[Brandi]

You should have jumped on the chance. You should have just said, Miriam. I'm querying. Nice to meet you. Let's be best friends.

[Tiffany]

Like, girl, you're trying to make out

[Brandi]

with a guy at drama camp. Okay. You're trying to make out with a little boy at drama camp. What? What are you thinking, Miriam?

[Tiffany]

Okay, Come on, Miriam. I think she wants to be an opera singer. I gotta look her up.

[Brandi]

Bless her.

[Tiffany]

No idea what her last name is. Oh, well, so Miriam. I remember her face to this day. I remember Miriam. I just will always remember her sitting there in the Adirondack chair. Adirondack chair, being so unhappy with me. And I'm very uncomfortable when people are unhappy with me. So you can only imagine how awkward I was trying to explain.

[Brandi]

Oh, you think you ever have a chance to get back in this? Well, the fat lady has sung. I'm out, Miriam, out.

[Tiffany]

And I was like, well, I didn't mean to kiss Kate, just that, like, you know, she kissed me. And like, I wasn't expecting it, but like, I'm not interested. I just don't want to just stayed quiet.

[Brandi]

I love that you just pretended you weren't even there. She was just like, I would be out of rod neck chair.

[Tiffany]

An early straight love triangle that I was in. My only straight love triangle to this day.

[Brandi]

All right, so the next morning, Ellie's in the galley and she's like, telephone. What is best recipe for lemon meringue cheesecake?

[Tiffany]

Well, lemon meringue cheesecake is found on the 405 Freeway. Take exit 13. It's like, wow, they really need to work on there their audio dictation.

[Brandi]

And this really is the new, the new improved personal assistant. Because she's like, oh, lemon meringue cheesecake sounds amazing. I didn't ask you that. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't ask your opinion. Okay. She's lucky she didn't have sue, though. Just Feeling. Okay, here's a recipe for a lemon meringue cheesecake. You get chocolate, peanut butter and dog poop. Wait a minute. You're right. I don't know how to make, like, a cheesecake.

[Tiffany]

I hallucinated.

[Brandi]

I have no idea.

[Tiffany]

It's been a. You know, I did a lot of things in the 60s, and sometimes things I get what they're called. Flashbacks. So what was the question, hon?

[Brandi]

Robots don't eat cheesecake. You're asking the wrong girl. Okay.

[Tiffany]

Oh, that sounds amazing. Lemon meringue cheesecake. So, okay, here's what you do. You take some lemon slices, you put it on some Swiss cheese, and you put on some merengue, and it's perfect. No, that's lemon meringue and cheese. That is not what I asked for. I'm sorry, I just.

[Brandi]

You're right.

[Tiffany]

A lot of hallucinations.

[Brandi]

I don't know what I'm doing. I have no idea what I'm doing. So Ben comes in. He's like, oh, it's nice to hear another noise in here. I'm gonna help you. Okay. You got up early to make a cheesecake. Look at me, Helpful Ben. Helpful, helpful Ben. All right, my little banaka breastbone. She's like, okay, I'll let that one go. I'll let that one go.

[Tiffany]

So binoca breastbone.

[Brandi]

Then we get to Daisy and Jenna, and Daisy's like, I've been up since five thinking about Mark and Alicia. They're fucking yelling at each other. Last night when I went to bed. I can't take it.

[Tiffany]

She has no right to get off on him. No, I agree. I mean, I think I agree. I don't really know what you said, but I'm pissed at yesterday. Maybe she needs to strike some strict boundaries. Yeah, I'm gonna have to do that. So Jenna says, mind boggling that they can't put that person shit aside. Remember, I am younger than both these idiots. Crazy. Activecampaign is the marketing automation platform built for big swings and big dreams. Generate ideas and seconds. Import your brand and create full campaigns with simple prompts. Get started for [e-mail]

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[Brandi]

So Jay Z's just going off bitching to Jenna and she's like, oh God, we've got guests on board and Ellie's woken up early to make choir birthday cake. What the fuck? I mean, how's, what you're, how's that what you're thinking? After yesterday you just almost killed a bunch of tweaks with soap and now you're going to make a cake? I mean, there's nothing else to be done. No fucking prep. You can't make a cake for the fucking guests. You can't make a muffins. I mean, it's just bullshit. And everyone's just so fucking selfish. I mean, I want to get laid. So when the guests are gonna board, be on board, I'm gonna make a fucking birthday cake.

[Tiffany]

Does she even realize that if these guests find out that there's extra carbs on board, we lose our entire tip? It's unacceptable.

[Brandi]

Daisy, I think you're transferring a little bit of that anger from your crew onto Ellie.

[Tiffany]

Just gonna say, I, I, I think actually Daisy has a point though. I mean, I think it's really sweet that Ellie is making this cake, but like, why don't you just make the cake when the guests leave at like one o'? Clock? You can probably have the cake ready by 6 o' clock when you all go off. I'm sure she, I guess Ellie wants to bring the cake to the tip meeting, but either way, I kind of feel like if you're, Daisy's kind of right on this one. Like if I don't wake up early, I think if you're going to wake up early to bake something, you should be baking something extra nice for the guests, like bake some croissants or whatever.

[Brandi]

No, I think if you wake up early, then that's your time that you're saying, I'm going to get up to do this on my own time. I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's weird. I mean, if the breakfast is late or something like that, that's different. But she's not affecting you. She woke up early to make a cake. Let the girl live. Okay? Let the, let my delusional girl live.

[Tiffany]

Let them, let them eat cake. Or in this case, let them bake cake. Yeah, I just think that, like, I don't know, I, I, well, you know, What? I think if you're gonna. If you're gonna. I think it's just the optics of it. The optics of you put soap on the eggs yesterday, and then today you're waking up early not to do something extra special for the guests to make up from yesterday, you're doing something extra special for Joao. I understand why Daisy is like, this is really annoying, cuz all of our tips could be affected by that soap mistake. And instead your priority is just Joao. So I. I kind of really do get what. What Daisy is saying. And I just feel like. Just make some muffins. Make some muffins.

[Brandi]

For these people eating muffins, they're gays. It's like they like the option.

[Tiffany]

They just want to feel pampered. They want to be pampered with carbs. And the thing is this. The. The muffins will come back to them, and then the crew gets to eat the muffins.

[Brandi]

Yeah. I don't know. I think if she was. If she got up on time and was, like, making breakfast late and there was something to bitch about, I would see it, but I don't know. Yeah, I just think someone waking up on their own time. Leave her alone. You know, this girl thinks she's in love with Juao. Isn't that painful enough? Isn't she suffering enough? You know, that's karma enough. She has to watch this back and see herself falling all over that loser who's just acted like he gave her the best breakup speech of all time. Meanwhile, she's waking up thinking he just proposed to her and she's going to make the man a lemon meringue cheesecake, which doesn't even make that much sense, let's be honest.

[Tiffany]

Yeah. Yeah. You. Wow. So the. I'm, like, just mad at his cake order now. Well, I mean, it's probably delicious, but do you need the meringue? If you got the. If you got the cheesecake part?

[Brandi]

I don't.

[Tiffany]

I think that's gilding the lily, quite frankly.

[Brandi]

Yeah. And listen, I love a lemon meringue and I love a cheesecake, and I'm sure that they do have lemon meringue cheesecake. I just, you know, it's. Fridge.

[Tiffany]

Wow.

[Brandi]

It's a lot of eggs. It's a lot of eggs for a man with no stones.

[Tiffany]

Yeah. Oh. Oh. You know what, though? I do see why she. If you're making a cheesecake, it does have to set. Here's the thing. Why didn't you do it? Like, why don't you do it? Overnight. Well, if you're making a cheesecake, make it the night before. Cheesecake is inherently not. It's not that hard of the cake genre. Cheesecake is kind of like, mix some eggs and I guess you like. I like to make it with, like, yo.

[Brandi]

I'm not good at cheesecake. I break yogurt and cream cheese. Yeah, Cream cheese. Yes, Yogurt. I've never heard of yogurt recipe.

[Tiffany]

It comes sort of like a very silky. But either way, do the ricotta. Whatever you're gonna do. Some people do goat cheese. Whatever you're gonna do. You can mix that, cook it. It takes 30 minutes to cook. Let it. Let it calm down. Wake up at, like, 1am Put it in the fridge, and just let it sit in the fridge overnight. And then you do the other part, like, last minute. Like, there's no reason to wake up early to do that. Well, no reason.

[Brandi]

Okay.

[Tiffany]

I'm actually mad now at her time management on cheesecake front.

[Brandi]

Whatever. She got up at 5. So the guests wake up. It's time to lift the anchor. Are you laughing about?

[Tiffany]

I'm just laughing at how invested I've gotten. And this is so, so mad about. I started. We started the episode, and I was just like, okay, blow deck. And then now we're here. We're an hour and 16 minutes in, and I am whipping myself into one tizzy over another about the stupidest things on this boat. Now I'm like, on one about the cheesecake, and I'm like, another thing. We all know you're supposed to use a ban. Marie.

[Brandi]

I'm just like, well, actually, while you were talking, I realized why she's so willing to make a lemon meringue cheesecake. Because when I make cheesecake, I always split the top on accident. Like, I just never do it right. I overcook it or I do something to where there's, like, a split. You know, it's not ever perfectly smooth on top, which is a cardinal sin of cheesecake making. And I've just never been able to do it right. So to be able to make the cheesecake and then do a lemon meringue topping is very smart because you hide the cracks on the top of the cheesecake.

[Tiffany]

So I have a very, like, laissez faire cheesecake attitude. Whenever I make the cheesecake, it cracks.

[Brandi]

Have to, like, make it about sexuality.

[Tiffany]

Have you ever had a cheesecake in an orgy?

[Brandi]

Have you ever had a lesion cheesecake? An orgy?

[Tiffany]

I honestly, the cheesecake always cracks when I make it And I don't care. I'm like, you know what?

[Brandi]

Oh, I'll still eat it.

[Tiffany]

It's rustic. It's rustic as fuck. And you know what? People enjoy it because I'm like. I'm just don't. I don't feel like making a bad Marie. Okay, I was Marie. That's when you take the thing with the water. You put, like, the steaming water underneath the cheesecake. That's how you get the cracking.

[Brandi]

If you don't do that for is full on.

[Tiffany]

Yeah. If you don't do that, you're gonna get the cracking. And I'm just like, we can all live with a little crack on top of the cheesecake. It all. It kind of craves back. Caves back in anyway as it sets. I mean, people need to relax.

[Brandi]

Who are you telling?

[Tiffany]

I'm a stickler about the timing, but if there's a crack on top, you know, just let it ride.

[Brandi]

Okay, so Ben asks about. Or Daisy asks Ben about breakfast, and he mentions the birthday cake, and she's like, don't. Don't bring it up with me. I don't. You know what? Right now's not the time for a cheesecake. And you know what? I think it's crazy, to be honest. I think it's crazy cheesecake craziness. I've had it. I've got it.

[Tiffany]

But she got up early. I can't. I can't be having this conversation. Don't get stressed. I'm hanging on by a throat bin. So Ben goes into the galley. Ellie, we need to wrap this up. We've got an hour, and everyone wants to be a good breakfast, mainly Daisy. So be mad at her if you like.

[Brandi]

So Daisy comes in and grabs some food and goes all the way up. She's at the very top of the stairs, and we know that there's like 5 million stairs on this. So she's almost up there. And he's like, daisy, Daisy, come back here. It's like, I've got my hands full. Ben, God damn it.

[Tiffany]

Why doesn't Ellie bring the eggs up to the gas? Come on.

[Brandi]

I'm sous chef. How dare you?

[Tiffany]

Hey, why can't they take the butters up? They've passed them four times by now. It's like. Because they'd rather do the butters one at a time, toots. So Ellie is like, daisy, Daisy, serious,

[Brandi]

please, please bring up the butter. Seriously.

[Tiffany]

Daisy's losing her mind.

[Brandi]

She's gonna kill her.

[Tiffany]

And they're trying to dock, by the way. So now Jason's like, interior, interior, off all radio communications, please. Interior, interior.

[Brandi]

So, yeah, they're like, come get food. And meanwhile, docking's happening. She's like, guys, don't be on the lines when they're. When they're docking, please. There's one of me. What's up? What? He goes, why is there just one of you? Because there's someone upstairs. She's asleep, and everyone else is docking the goddamn boat. Fuck me. I can't be a hundred places.

[Tiffany]

Well, we want the photo Dodge, like, for Fox sake. Honestly, I feel like. I mean, the Twilight zone, like a maritime version of the Twilight Zone, and I'm the only person who knows what's going on. I feel like I'm the only person who's channeling my energy into the job and the gas experience. Everyone else is on their own trajectory, what they want to do. So Daisy leaves the galley. She. I mean, watching her just lose her mind is so funny. And Ben's like, well, she'd be great at this job, wouldn't she? She'd handle the stress really well, huh?

[Brandi]

It's really starting to feel like a joke, Some sort of off joke. Oh, my God. Daisy is at the end of her rope, and that shit's funny. Oh, my God.

[Tiffany]

That is the end of the episode. Guys, I apologize. I was supposed to pull the fish for the fish report this week, and I just fully forgot to. I wrote down all the time. I know. I'm sorry. There were some decent ones. It actually was not an amazing week for the fish report. I will say there was a snake in the opening credits that we all. I enjoyed, and we did see a turtle, a sea turtle eating a jellyfish, which I thought was a bit violent, but by and large, it was not a huge week for the fish anyway. But next week, Ronnie and everyone out there, I will. I will pull the fish. I. I apologize for my dereliction of duty for this week.

[Brandi]

God damn it. I can't do everything on my own.

[Tiffany]

I, I.

[Brandi]

You're just Daisy. You're Daisy losing your at the end.

[Tiffany]

The one thing I was looking forward to this week was the fish report.

[Brandi]

It's done.

[Tiffany]

I apologize. I apologize.

[Brandi]

Oh, we'll all survive it. Guys. Thank you so much for being here for Below Deck Down Under. We will be back later today with a bonus episode of Top Chef. Talk. Just a little chat, okay? And then we'll be back for the rest of the week with 9,000 other episodes that Bravo is giving us. So we will talk to you guys later. Love ya.

[Tiffany]

Bye. Bye.

[Brandi]

Bye.

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[Brandi]

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[Brandi]

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[Tiffany]

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