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Rosie
Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens,
Ben Mandelker
a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today
Rosie
is none other than Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie. How are you?
Rula
How dare you. How dare you.
Ronnie Karam
Welcome to Rhode Island.
Rosie
Yeah, snake and a troll. I don't like snakes and trolls. Like you know what? I love you.
Ronnie Karam
I love you.
Rosie
Here's pizza chips. Have a pizza chip.
Ronnie Karam
The pizza chip. I can't wait to get the pizza chip portion of this.
Ben Mandelker
I'm so excited, really excited about this pizza chip situation. Welcome everyone to watch what happens. We are here today to talk Real Housewives of Rhode island and we have our beautiful Patreon that you should come join us for patreon.com watch what crappins. We have bonus episodes, a free newsletter that just went up. We have ad free listening. It's just like anything you could literally ever want in life. It's all there. All the answers to all your questions in life are just on our Patreon. So come join. Also if you listen to this in time. We have crappy hour tonight. That's at 5:30 on the west coast. And every Monday we do Amazon Live. We go on at 1:30 and we talk about cool things that we bought recently that we want to recommend to you. So you should really come listen because we have a lot of fun on their hawk in different wares. It's, it's. That's a real delight. That is it. Let's talk about Rhode Island. I love this episode. Actually I, you know, I, I haven't been quite at the same level of
Rosie
enthusiasm As a lot of people on Rhode island have been. Not.
Ben Mandelker
That's not a negative. I've been really enjoying it, but, like, people have been like, oh, my God, this show's amazing. But, like, for me, I'm like, it was.
Rosie
It's been a little bit more of
Ben Mandelker
a slow burn, but I feel like the show is really starting to come together. I'm feeling like it's. The cast is starting to gel nicely, and I was just, like, cracking up through so much of this, so. I was a fan. I was a fan. What did you think?
Ronnie Karam
I think the aunties need the show. The aunties need to be on the show. For me, every time. Every time they're on, I'm like, this is it. This is the show. I like the show. I think it's pretty good. I'm still. I'm still very confused about what's going on through a lot of it, but I've started to Google, and then I've realized I'm. I'm confused because they're all in the Mafia, and that's why they're not able to talk about anything. So. Yeah, that made it more fun. I mean, I kind of knew there were Mafia rumors, but I didn't realize it was like, the. The cast. The cast is. It's like Mob Wives. It's like a new Mob Wives, which I kind of like.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. This is, like, the first time I've been scared to recap a show because I'm like, if I say the wrong thing about Dino, I could literally get kills. Well, like, it's. It's like, it might happen. It might. It's. If I get. If I get murdered, you guys just know. You guys know where to look. Okay.
Ronnie Karam
I've always had a feeling I'm going to get taken out by someone I'm talking shit about on. On this podcast. And I would much prefer it to be someone like Kyle Richards, you know, like, just make someone that crazy that they finally kill you or whatever. So I wouldn't be psyched if it was Dino, but I would figure. I mean, I knew this was coming. Like, when I saw that gun being pointed at me, I'd be like, oh, God, Really? In a sabaro.
Ben Mandelker
I know.
Ronnie Karam
You know, God. Sound going.
Rosie
I would.
Ben Mandelker
You know, if I. I'm with you. Like, if. If I'm gonna get murdered by someone that I talk about one of these shows, I want it to be high profile. I want to be like. Like a rageful Tamra Judge, you know?
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Headlines for a year. But if It's Dino. It'll be like an.
Rosie
Oddly enough. Oddly enough, a local Rhode island man killed a podcaster.
Ben Mandelker
I'm like, oh, I don't want to be in the.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, I want a bigger story. Yeah, totally. I want a much bigger story. So we start with Alicia. She's with her husband Bill at Pizza
Ashley
Baba, and she's, like, going to the beach, so I want to get some pizza, you know? So, Chessy, you know, I think we
Rula
should talk about maybe doing, like, red T shirts and black T shirts, you know? Right? Because, like, white gets dirty, right? Girls.
Ronnie Karam
And the girls behind the register, like, oh, yeah. Oh, my God.
Rula
Yeah. White gets dirty easily. You're so smart, Alicia. You deserve half of this business.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. This was like her Shark Tank moment when they're like, look at her. Look at the. Look at her innovations.
Rula
This is how I give to my husband's business. White shirts get dirty.
Ben Mandelker
But that being said, I will always remember. Dare I invoke this? I was a big Apprentice fan back in the day, and I remember one time they had a challenge that, like, a hotel challenge, and they, like, they had to, like, redesign chef uniforms. And I remember Ivanka Trump one time, as the, you know, judicious consultant to her father, was like, why did you change? Why. Why did you decide not to use white as the fabric? Because the reason why we use white for these sort of things is that they bleach really easily, and so you can clean them and get the stains out like a breeze. And I remember at that time thinking that Ivanka Trump is so smart. Like, I can't believe Ivanka thought of that. It's amazing. She is so bright. Meanwhile, there's probably a producer in her ear saying, ivanka, could you please bring up this point? And telling her what to say. But either way, I've always remembered Ivanka Trump saying that with these sort of things, white is actually the better fabric because you can bleach it and clean it very easily, and it's.
Ronnie Karam
Isn't that crazy? And then all these years later, her father is still saying, white is better. White is better. Every second he gets the chance, he
Ben Mandelker
really took it to heart.
Ronnie Karam
Really, really did. Yeah. I remember those days back when you had, like, Ivanka posters in your room and stuff.
Ben Mandelker
I loved Ivanka back then.
Ronnie Karam
Loved her.
Ben Mandelker
Before I knew. Before I knew what was going to happen.
Ronnie Karam
That was right when car wrapping came out and you had your. Your Toyota wrapped with, like, an Ivanka face.
Ben Mandelker
Number one Ivanka fan. But the irony, though, is that, like, we've Seen plenty of chefs wearing.
Ronnie Karam
Used to be like, hey, I made some cookies. Ivanka, cookie. I'm like, okay. All right. It's getting. It's getting to be a little bit much. Ben, reel it in.
Ben Mandelker
It was. It was too much. Too much. Yeah. But anyway, I'm sorry to evoke Ivanka, but let's be honest. We know where Alicia voted, so she's probably very happy about this. So anyway, she. She's innovating at the pizza mama. And then we got a ruler's house. Ruler. Ruler's putting out a chair in the backyard. She's like, it's really fun watching you guys work. And it's just talking to her kids because the kids are, like, asking for some money. And.
Ashley
Yeah, like, you owe me 50 bucks for doing work, mama. You owe me 50 bucks.
Ronnie Karam
So, okay.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I was gonna say one kid
Rosie
is like, I get 92. 2000 million, and a hundred dollars.
Ben Mandelker
You know, which. It's considered a real monetary amount on this show, I think, well, what can you do? She deserves 90,000.
Rosie
2 million, $45. That's a real number.
Ronnie Karam
Bill's like, yeah, get this cleaned up. My mistress is coming over later to take a picture by that banister, get it dusted. We'll talk about this in crappy hour, but that shit was crazy. So after the episode last week, it came out that the mistress posted a picture of. On her Instagram of herself at Rula's house in front of the banister with the same neighbor in back. So it was very obviously her house. Like, she did it on purpose to out herself as the mistress. And then Bill sued her because apparently he had her sign an NDA when he started fucking her. I mean, that is a slime ball. I mean, if your husband is putting that much thought into having an affair, that's crazy. He's like, all right, I'm going to fuck you, toots. But first, find this NDA. So he's suing her for breaking the NDA Instagram. Very classy guy. Super classy.
Ben Mandelker
This guy is garbage. Yeah, someone. There's no one more appropriate to put their foot in their mouth than a podiatrist. Give me another Deborah rim shot on that one. There we go.
Ronnie Karam
Let's go to Joellen's house. Joellen is packing. She's going for a work trip. She's like, gary, I'm gonna need help
Rula
bringing my suitcase down. I'm just trying to think of everything
Ronnie Karam
I need because I'm a little nervous about this trip. I love working. I love Working.
Rula
I'm going to Chicago. It's my mid year, Sal.
Ronnie Karam
Honestly, when I'm on my work trips,
Rula
it's not that relaxing. Like it's non stop back to back.
Ronnie Karam
I like working. I could stay at home, you know, Choice is not for me. I can go to sleep with dishes in the sink.
Rula
There, I said it. I said it.
Ben Mandelker
It's like, okay, it was like a whirlwind Jo Ellen monologue about chores. And we're out of the scene already. And now we go to Liz's house. Liz is wearing some crazy bathing suit top thing or whatever where it's like, it just was like, comes in and it's like a, it's like a weird, like it's like an isthmus of fabric across her stomach.
Ronnie Karam
Liz's fashion is amazing on this show. It's crazy. It's so tacky. It's her. The fashion ones to just laugh at every week are her and Rosie. Rosie looks insane. I don't even know what the fuck she's right. But Liz, like, in one, she has a snake. And it's not just like a diamond snake, it's like a huge stuffed diamond snake that's like coming off of her shirt and about to eat her face. Then she's wearing one. Like the flowery dress that she wears looks like one of those things when you get on a roller coaster and you pull down the bars and it's like, it's like that, but it's all flowers. I mean, she, they dress so crazy on this show. It cracks me up.
Ben Mandelker
Rosie looks like someone who is on a shipwreck and washed up on a remote island. And the locals who saved her, she had to, she had to tell them that she was a rhythmic gymnast in order for them not to persecute her. And so then they were so excited that they sewed her outfits for their local rhythmic gymnastics competitions. And she has to just go on with the, with the ruse. Like that's what I think her, her fashion style looks like.
Ronnie Karam
And she debuted a new one tonight that was all like different colored glass, like sea glass or something. Like, I mean, crazy going off the
Ben Mandelker
side of her arm. It doesn't make it.
Rosie
And the thing is, it's like her
Ben Mandelker
vibe is kind of like, ugh, that's stupid. Why would you do that? That's stupid. She's stupid. Look at those old people. Weird people. That's stupid. So you would think she would look at some of these fashions, be like, that's stupid. Why would I wear that? But Instead, I think she sees like a pink feather and is like, I want it. Put it all over.
Ronnie Karam
That's me. My breast, that's me. That pink feather. Put it on me.
Rula
Get it on. Get a glue gun. Get a glue gun over here.
Ronnie Karam
So Liz, Dolores is coming to Liz's house. And Liz says, hello.
Ashley
What's your sight for? Sore eyes.
Rula
Secure sight for sores.
Ronnie Karam
We have the same eyes. Did the same.
Liz
Yeah. Hey.
Ashley
Wow.
Liz
Some on Jerry's bananas.
Ben Mandelker
And we see there's this enormous bowl of bananas like this looks like a trophy that Donkey Kong would win. And so we see it and look us. Does he eat that many bananas?
Liz
Nah. He ordered six bananas yesterday to be delivered. That's what came.
Ben Mandelker
So we clearly went on to Instacart and hit six on the bananas, thinking you'd get six individual bananas and got six bundles of bananas.
Ronnie Karam
When. When you ask a man to do a woman's job, am I right? She. I asked, I asked my guy to help me flip a house once. Not a pebble tile. Not one pebble tile in the whole place.
Liz
Let's do a little sage ceremony.
Ben Mandelker
So they're going to do a sage ceremony to sage out the fighting. And at some point in the middle of this, I just want to point out, Liz makes like a little iced coffee thing. Like she clearly poured some like Trader Joe's like iced coffee over some ice in a glass and she hands it to Dolores and Dolores goes, this is beautiful. Thank you. I just cracked up. It was like sort of average, like milky looking beverage. This is beautiful. Beautiful. So much. Absolutely beautiful. I'll never betray you.
Ashley
Well, you know, I gotta sage the place because Joellen got down my throat here the other night. We've gotta take care of them.
Ronnie Karam
And so we see a flashback to Joellen being like, oh, you don't want to admit it. You don't want to admit it. And Ruler saying, he's not having an affair. Okay. And now we're back and Dolores is saying, well, you know, she's hanging on a husband with every last thing she has. She loves him. And here comes Joellen over here. Have you met my husband?
Rula
I don't think you have. Hi.
Ronnie Karam
I just felt so bad for her, you know, and then I got a little bit upset.
Rula
I got a little bit upset.
Liz
Yeah, but at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing for me. And if it's over, I don't know why she's white knuckling so much.
Rosie
And Liz tells us Ruler is the boss at work.
Liz
However, I Don't know how much she is as a wife, but the constant denial, running away from or from it or pointing the finger somewhere else, it's only gonna make it faster.
Ashley
More
Ronnie Karam
so.
Ashley
Liz is like, you know, I played the latter part of the night over and over in my head and I'm disgusted by my reaction. Disgusted it by myself. I came across as a better drunken witch. That's how I came across.
Ronnie Karam
That was a menopause moment. That's what we call a menopause moment.
Liz
Yeah, yeah. Combination of that and I drank too
Rosie
much, just lost my shit.
Liz
Plus all these fucking bananas in the house. How could you even keep a scene in mind? You know what I'm saying?
Ashley
Cut to Liz being like, you fake ass bitch, you. Fuck you, Kelsey. Fuck off, Kelsey. All right?
Liz
You know, because with Kelsey, I felt like she co signed on a lie to avoid her own issues with this person that she didn't want out because I didn't know if it was dating, but it was hooking up. But Kelsey and you know, for a brief moment was a romantic relationship, not.
Ashley
Not what I had.
Liz
Okay? Radically different from what I had. But like, you know, people made it seem like we had some type of.
Ronnie Karam
And then we see a flashback to this non torrid affair and she's like,
Ashley
I just want to go down to the sea wall with Jerry and Dino. That's it. I gotta go to the seawall. You're starting this ship with me when I want to go to the seawall.
Ben Mandelker
But I think because of the ongoing, you know.
Ashley
Ongoing. What's this ongoing seawall? It's just a fucking seawall.
Liz
You can't constantly. Can't go to seawall where your husband, who only comes around three days a year, the guy spend the rest of your time where you can't do that no more. I don't mind. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Ashley
So for Kelsey, speaking of the ongoing, you know, it was nothing and I hate the word ongoing, as you might have noticed, you know, and something that she knew truly affected me. It was triggering to me. It was triggering. That's it.
Liz
Here you go.
Rosie
Here's your iced coffee. And also I made a fruit salad.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah. Oh, this is beautiful. This is beautiful. You know what? This is almost as good as riding in the same car with someone. My loyalty for life is what you have.
Ronnie Karam
Do you still trust? Do you still trust Kelsey?
Ashley
That might take a minute, Delores. That might take a minute. Because you know what? It's not every day you have some
Rula
bitch come up to you and say, I'm going.
Rosie
It is one of the most vile
Liz
words in the English language. Ongoing.
Rosie
Okay.
Ashley
Terrible. I hate the C word.
Ronnie Karam
Cut. Fitness.
Ashley
Ongoing. I hate it.
Ronnie Karam
Horrible word.
Rosie
It's a C word because you only say it by the sea anyway.
Rula
You only say it when you're on
Ashley
your way to the seawall.
Rosie
Well, you know what?
Ben Mandelker
Was it handled wrong? Yes. You owe an apology. Yes, you do.
Rosie
And she has to decide about moving on.
Ben Mandelker
And you want to move on from this. Fruits of salad. Absolutely delicious. Especially with the spiced coffee.
Liz
It's like, I feel like she owes me one too, though. I feel like she owes me that too.
Ben Mandelker
Liz does this thing when she's pissed. She smiles really broadly. And later on in the episode, she's questioning why people are intimidated by her. It's like, because you have the scariest smile on Bravo. Because the more you smile, the more we see how furious you are at someone. That's a terrifying thing when someone is really angry, but they smile at you when they're angry. It's a. It's a really, really scary thing.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, she's got that down for sure. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
And this season comes with a twist. The villa becomes a full blown reality crossover event with guest appearances from the Bachelor, Love island, the secret lives of Mormon wives, and more, turning every stay into its own unforgettable spectacle.
Ben Mandelker
So pour yourself something decadent because the drama and the tea will be served.
Ronnie Karam
The new season of Vanderpump Villa is now streaming on Hulu and it has never been better. So now we go with Rosie, Rosie and Alicia at the beach. And they're like, oh, my God, you're so kid.
Rula
We gone to Miami.
Ashley
Like, what?
Liz
What?
Ashley
Why are you so cute?
Rula
She's like, oh, my God, we're going to the beach. And I know you only go to your country club.
Ashley
We know Alicia.
Rula
She's like, yeah, I didn't dress at the beach because I only go to my country club. We just. I just said that. Yeah, because there's a beach club there. It's amazing. It's a beach club.
Rosie
It's a beach club.
Rula
It's the only place I got Ashley's
Ben Mandelker
like, guys, this is my favorite beach. It's the only beach in Rhode island where you cannot hear my husband. Prepare a coffee for someone.
Liz
Joyce, we got a cappuccino ready. Damn it.
Rula
All right, you guys go first because I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. It's like a beach. I don't know. It's like sand to stairs. It's not like this at the country club. It's not like it.
Ben Mandelker
It's different as she goes.
Rosie
See, I take my kids here because, look, no riptide.
Ben Mandelker
It's like no undercurrent. I'm like, there's also no charisma. It's like, it's like this, like, dark brown sand and like, just. It's like, it's like going to the lake. It's like a sad lake, but it's a beach form, and they're all just totally unimpressed. It's, like, also like a public beach that's, you know, full of, you know, normal people.
Rosie
So, of course, Alicia's like, oh, my God.
Ben Mandelker
What about.
Rosie
I hope they didn't bring any pizza chips, because this is disgusting. All those people over there, these girls,
Ronnie Karam
they seem a bit more like a country club bunch. Like, they're showing up with their designer bags and stuff. They look like Malibu Barbies. And me, Ashley, like, I look like a mom that maybe, like, tried a little bit today. Wacky new girl. To housewives.
Rosie
This is your favorite beach. What the fuck? I belong to a beautiful beach club. Please come. Come with me. Carry a chair, my purse, and then snacks. It's, like, too much. Too much to do.
Ben Mandelker
I don't know.
Rosie
This is too. I'd rather be a pizza mama.
Ronnie Karam
They go down and set up on the sand, but they set themselves up facing away from the water, which is hilarious.
Ben Mandelker
I get. They probably have to, like, they can't have the camera people, like, in the water because it's probably a liability with the equipment. But it is hilarious that they're. They're facing away from the beach. And I guess it's also more cinematic to be able to see the ocean. Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Like, they go to the beach and then sit away from the water. Okay, listen, we've already got one Housewives that's primarily focused on scenes taking place in parking lots. And you're not Real Housewives of Salt
Rula
Lake City level yet.
Ben Mandelker
And Bravo's really trying to push the maritime element of the show. So they're like, we must have that. That ocean in the background, which, honestly, I don't mind. It is. It is really a very maritime show. Like, at Liz's house, you just see the. You see the ocean just in the background the entire time. Like, this is, like a very. There's something, like, very pleasant about how this show looks. You know, everything's because of lighthouses and waves and seagulls and Mafia. It's just lovely.
Ronnie Karam
But it's all very, like, cheddar biscuits. Like, it's very seafood restaurant, if that makes any sense. Like, even this.
Rula
Oh, my God, look at us with the beach. This is the most gorgeous beach in town.
Ronnie Karam
And it's like a parking lot with a puddle.
Rula
Like, wow, isn't this amazing?
Ben Mandelker
This. I mean, let's face it, Real Housewives of Rhode island is for the seafood lover and you.
Ronnie Karam
Yep.
Rula
So guess what. Guess what, guys. Guess What? Alicia here. I brought pizza chips. There, I said it, you know?
Ronnie Karam
And that's like, I've never even heard of a pizza chip. What is that? Do you make it with the steamer?
Rula
No, no. My grandfather, he was the first one to do it here. Like, he had a bakery called Superior Bakery, because it was pretty good. And you know what? Like, pizza chips are like. It's red sauce. It's not actual cheese. It's not like regular pizza, but it's lighter. You know, it's lighter. People, like, bring it to the beach. I love pizza chips.
Ben Mandelker
I love Alicia. Her. Just her. Her distinguishing feature is that there's no cheese.
Rosie
She's like, yeah, the pizza chips, just red. There's no cheese.
Ben Mandelker
There's no cheese on this pizza.
Rosie
It's just. It's just. It's red sauce.
Ben Mandelker
Mike, you don't have to tell me, like, oh, but there's no cheese. You have to tell me, oh, but it's not a chip, because it's like a big, like, round of bread. It looks like. I don't remember, but it's like a.
Ronnie Karam
It's like a super thick pita.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, like a thick. Yeah, like a pita or biali that's covered with, like, a tomato sauce that's been cooked down so it almost looks like a tomato paste. I don't understand why they're called chips.
Ronnie Karam
That shit looks nasty.
Rula
And.
Ronnie Karam
But they're not called. They're not chips, and they're not pizza. They're neither of those.
Ben Mandelker
I agree.
Ronnie Karam
Why are you calling pizza chips?
Ben Mandelker
I want one so badly because I, of course, you know, I stopped the show and then spent 15 minutes online looking at pizza chips that can also be called pizza Pizza. Not slits. Pizza strips. They can also be called pizza strips if they have a sort of long shape. And everyone online is like, oh, my God, these are so good. The ratio of how they look to how they taste is, like, the. There's the farthest gap than any other food. Like, it. They look so stupid, and they tastes so good. So now I desperately want a pizza chip. And also, I'm, like, sad that we never had a Top Chef Rhode island because, you know, there would have been, like, a Padma challenge.
Rosie
Chefs, since we're here in Rhode island, please welcome my dear friend, the president of Rhode island, to talk about a local delicacy called the pizza chip. Now, one thing you may not know about these. Yes, the residents do like to eat them, but they're also great for throwing at Gail's face.
Ben Mandelker
Let's all do it together
Ronnie Karam
in Los Angeles. Pizza chips. Thin, crispy, oven baked dough topped with marinara and mozzarella. Okay, you've already got it wrong. Google so whatever. So, Ashley. So leash is like in the summer,
Rula
go to the beach as a kid, you have cheese in the sun. It's sitting there. You know what I mean? You just don't. You don't. You don't want cheese sitting in the sun. No one wants melted cheese on a pizza. Like, nobody wants that.
Rosie
That she's just sitting there.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, if you bring pizza to the beach, I mean, I just feel like the pizza won't last long enough to be crappy in the sun. Right? Don't you? I would just eat.
Ronnie Karam
All the people would eat it. But you know what will last?
Rula
Pizza chips.
Ronnie Karam
Guaranteed. So as she's like, I mean, they think it's great, but I'm like, who wears the cheese on my pizza? You know, because, like, who wants a pizza without cheese?
Ben Mandelker
It's like a house off without a personality. Ashley. So Rosie is like, you guys, Rosie says the sentence that like, you can barely understand because of her accent. And maybe she has a pizza chip in her mouth.
Rosie
She's like, you guys, I want to invite you all. You, me and Ashy. We're going real expls. I was like, what she say? React bars.
Liz
What re.
Ben Mandelker
But they all understood what she meant.
Rosie
Like, oh, so cute.
Liz
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
And then we see exploders. It's called rail explorers.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, we're gonna do that. And then we're gonna have a bonfire.
Rula
We're really. We're gonna do everything. You guys explore rails, go on a bonfire. Don't worry, we're gonna go from one public park to another public park, basically,
Ronnie Karam
is what I'm saying.
Rosie
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
For this episode, Rail Explorers is also what Jax Taylor used to call his group of friends. So Rosie is like, I love rose. I mean, I love rail explorers.
Rosie
I'm kind of obsessed with it. I think it's such a fun activity. I also, the views are amazing. And it's such a beautiful. It's so beautiful. I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
Ocean scape, seascape. But that's okay.
Rosie
Well, like, whatever you call it. But I think everybody will have fun doing something active. Like maybe we won't fight each other. You know, It'll be great.
Ashley
All right, we.
Rula
We said relic was five times. Is that how many times we had to say it? Okay, let's talk now. Let's talk now. Did you have a pizza chip? Okay, let's talk about the party. Like, I've been dying, I've been waiting
Ronnie Karam
I've been dying, I've been waiting, dying, waiting.
Rosie
My God.
Ben Mandelker
I know. Hi, Ashley here.
Rosie
I need some clarification.
Ben Mandelker
Why is Rula mad at Joellen?
Ronnie Karam
Well, Rula feels like she's getting involved in her marriage. Wait, what were you gonna say?
Ben Mandelker
Ashley, pay attention to your own show. How do you not know why Rula is mad at Joelle?
Ronnie Karam
It's like, the biggest reason ever. Everybody knows, okay? Ashley's like, I don't even. These women are so crazy. I don't even know what their Instagram handles are.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I think Ashley's really trying to be the. The voice of the people. Like, aren't these people crazy? But instead, she's just coming off like a twit. So Rosie is like, well, Rula feels
Rosie
like she's getting involved in her marriage. It's like, you know, I never knew this until recently. You know what? Rula met Brian while he was married to my Spanish teacher.
Ben Mandelker
Like, what?
Ronnie Karam
It's like, yes, it's so funny. I love Alicia. No one can make me hate her.
Rula
William. At Brian while he was married to my Spanish teacher.
Rosie
So she. So he's this. He's a cheater, basically. Yeah. But he doesn't look like a cheetah. Let's be honest.
Ben Mandelker
Like, he literally looks like a cheater. You look at him and say, that man is cheating on his wife.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, he doesn't look like a cheater. He's just so hot. Only ugly people cheat. Oh, Ashley.
Ben Mandelker
No, he's not very hot.
Rula
Oh.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, okay, that makes more sense. I was gonna say, you're in for a surprise. Your husband, who's at his coffee bar, Audrey's, at midnight checking the I machine. So Alicia says, well, I don't know
Rula
if it's true, but, like, R's husband cheated on his first wife, my Spanish teacher with Rula.
Ronnie Karam
I hope that's true. That's not true, cuz, like, I really
Rula
did love a Spanish teacher.
Ben Mandelker
Alicia's, like, all excited to go to her high school reunion and, like, reunite with her Spanish teacher.
Rosie
And she's like, I don't know if I can do that anymore.
Ben Mandelker
So Rosie.
Rosie
It's just too. I just feel so bad for her.
Ben Mandelker
So Rosie says, okay, enough about Rula and her weirdo husband. Me and Alicia have been dying to know what happened on Saturday. So Ash is like, is Liz not here for a reason? Rosie goes, yeah, I've been waiting for
Rosie
this all day because I. Like, I didn't want to. Like, I didn't want to attack you
Ben Mandelker
with it, but, like, I'm.
Rosie
I'm about to climax. By the way, it's now it's me, Alicia, talking. I'm about to climax. I need to know what happened.
Liz
Come on, tell me what happened.
Ronnie Karam
So Kelsey says, you know, I just said, how you doing? And she says, I want a moment with Dino on my husband.
Rula
And I said, I wouldn't.
Ronnie Karam
Didn't want that because of Dino's ongoing. And before I even stopped, she fucking booked it, you know, and she said, ongoing, ongoing nothing. Ongoing.
Rula
Seawall.
Ronnie Karam
Seawall, ongoing. And then she ran upstairs. So I followed her because. What else do you do? What I meant by ongoing was that there's rumors about them having an affair, and I thought she should distance herself from him because people are talking about us spreading lies and things that aren't necessarily true. So. Geez, sorry, do you think on some
Ben Mandelker
level, Kelsey was also saying, he's like a connected guy and you're on TV now and maybe you shouldn't be seen?
Ronnie Karam
It sounds like what Kelsey says to her later when they have the conversation is, I was with this guy. I did have an affair with this guy, and he was abusive and he's a fucking killer in the Mafia. So watch out is what it sounded like she's saying later.
Ashley
And Liz is like, okay, well, you're allowed to have your experiences. And I'm about to have my experience experiences. And that's just like.
Ronnie Karam
Like, are you not hearing me?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, with the. Yeah, so. So Rosie's like, what? What?
Rosie
So what was she saying upstairs?
Ben Mandelker
What was she saying?
Rosie
And Cass. Oh, you know, she was saying, you. You're fake.
Liz
What?
Rosie
What did she say? It's like, yeah, she probably said it 86 million times. I mean, in my brain, I'm like, God, what did I just, like, dead myself with the rest of my relationship with Liz?
Ben Mandelker
So Kelsey's like, we just don't want to be under her wrath.
Rula
Yeah, but you know what? She's been like that her whole life, though. Like, the people that we hung out with and grow up with, they weren't like, regular happy, go lucky. Like, we're for the same cut, you know, like, we fought the same type of cloth. Does that make sense? Like, how do we say it?
Ronnie Karam
You're cut from the same cloth.
Rula
Yeah, yeah, we're cut from the same cloth. You know, Like, I come off softer, happier, you know, like, but, you know, get me behind a wheel and walk in front of my car, you know? But we all do have, like. We do walk on Extras around her.
Ronnie Karam
It's true.
Rula
Me including. Because you know why? Because she's no bullshit. You know, I. I get scared of her, and I don't get scared of anybody, you know, except, you know, people at crosswalks, because they'll sue you. They'll sue you.
Rosie
I don't like doing that. No bridges for me. I will not. I couldn't even watch the Bridges of Madison County.
Ben Mandelker
I was like, what if there's women there? I don't want to run over someone
Rosie
else in the movies.
Ben Mandelker
Then we go to Joellen's house, but Joellen is not there. Jan, her sister, is there doing long laundry for Gary because he. He's not able to fold clothing.
Ronnie Karam
And he. He's been gone one day, and he already has a full. I mean, I guess they have kids and stuff, but still. And this sister is your husband, by the way.
Rula
She's like, oh, hi.
Ashley
Just you're taking care of your kids
Ronnie Karam
and doing your husband's laundry. Hope you're having fun on your work trip, loser.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, and so they have, like, this whole banter, you know, and Ds, like,
Rosie
I really appreciate that. Jen comes over when I'm out of. Out of town to help out with
Ben Mandelker
my kids, and she's like, gary found
Rosie
a pair of your underwear.
Ronnie Karam
Ted Baker. How'd they smell?
Rula
They tasted great. Oh, God. She perpetuates this fun little game of
Ronnie Karam
flirting with my husband, but I don't take offense.
Rula
I mean, I know there's nothing going on. She loves Gary so much. As a brother, as a friend. They've never had sex. Like, maybe he touched her boobs in high school. You know, keep it in the family kind of thing. Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Because he dated her first, so. Yeah, I think she's already tasted. She's already tasted this guy.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Gary's like, yeah, it's super nice that you came to help out when she's not here, though, because, like, that takes a huge load off my shoulders of doing the nothing that I do.
Ronnie Karam
Sorry, did I say shoulders? I meant nuts.
Ben Mandelker
So.
Ronnie Karam
So she's. She's like, oh, my God, don't we have a happy marriage? And the sister's like, I'm your husband.
Rula
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, I'm about to say we see, like, a flashback of them in a sauna. And Jen's like, if I'm gonna be
Rosie
45 years old and I don't have kids yet, I'm just gonna use Gary's.
Ben Mandelker
And then he, like, winks at her.
Rula
She's like, yeah, you're not Using my husband's sperm for kids, okay?
Ronnie Karam
She's like, can Gary give me sperm?
Rula
I said, he's not giving you a sperm.
Ronnie Karam
What's wrong with you?
Rula
What's wrong with you?
Rosie
Okay, maybe a few sperms. You know, she can have a few sperms, but, you know, he. She's not gonna be the one to jerk him off to get the sperms out of.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, don't you. She could put a finger in. She could put a finger, and I'll do the rest.
Ashley
That's it.
Rosie
That's all she gets.
Ronnie Karam
Finger. So, yeah, she calls, and they have this nice scene of, like, oh, my
Ashley
God, it's the kids.
Ronnie Karam
And Joellen goes, wow, she's really helping out a lot around there. Hi. Goes, yeah. Laundry, cleaning, cooking, bowl emptying.
Ashley
What didn't I do? What didn't I do?
Ronnie Karam
Am I right, Gare?
Rosie
My relationship with Jen, as we were growing up, like, we were, like, not close.
Ben Mandelker
We would fight a lot, and then
Rosie
she would, like, lock me at the house in a towel. And then Jen and I got close right after my father passed away, and it was, like, 2010. And then, like, after.
Ben Mandelker
Then she would, like, let me back
Rosie
in the house with a towel. And, like, we became friends. So, like, I'm thankful and I'm appreciative of her, and I finally, like, understand what a best friend a sister is, you know? Because as a best friend, it's my favorite thing to do, is to dangle the man that she.
Ben Mandelker
That got away from her in front of her face, knowing that she can never have him again.
Rosie
So, anyway, we're really close now.
Rula
Okay, well, I'd love you, sister.
Ashley
Have a safe flight.
Ronnie Karam
I'm your husband.
Ashley
Okay, you're hilarious.
Ronnie Karam
You're hel. Okay, put your top back on. Put your.
Rula
Okay, call me back.
Ronnie Karam
Call me back.
Rosie
Bye.
Ben Mandelker
So now we go to Alicia's, and she's fixing pool furniture.
Rosie
She's like, oh, God, this is dirty. And that's disgusting over there.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, God, that's awful.
Rosie
That's disgusting.
Ben Mandelker
And then in come the aunties.
Rosie
Sandra first, and she's like, alicia, we're here.
Liz
Where is she? Where that.
Rosie
Alicia?
Ben Mandelker
And then in comes Sharon. Oh, God, I hope you guys are hungry, because there's lots of food. You thought you had a lot of pizza chips before.
Rosie
Guess what? Got a stack of them.
Ben Mandelker
This one's got marinara on it. That one. Oh, wait, but this batch here, this
Rosie
also has got marinara.
Ben Mandelker
What about your batch over there?
Rosie
Mine got marinara on them.
Ashley
Hey, you got a Straw. I want to drink some marinara.
Liz
All right.
Ronnie Karam
And Alicia's like, wow.
Rula
You know, spending time with my family is like that. You know, there's, like, so much going on. You can't. It's, like, overwhelming. My grandpa, my grandfather, he opened up Superior Bakery. It was great. Everybody loved.
Ronnie Karam
We know Alicia, for fuck's sake. This all Alicia says. She said this 30 times.
Rosie
Superior Bakery.
Rula
Superior Bakery. Yeah, it was good. And then he had some pizza restaurants. He was.
Ronnie Karam
He was well known all over Rhode Island. My aunts, they, like, work with my grandfather. They make it the dough behind the. You know, everyone in Cranston would make fun of the Cicerone girls because they
Rula
weren't really good at working. But, you know, my grandfather was always
Ronnie Karam
stressed out, yelling at him, but he
Rula
was just dishing out that money. I love that.
Ronnie Karam
All these ants were like dough makers. They could never do it.
Rosie
Hey, ma, you gonna go swimming?
Ben Mandelker
She's like, oh, no, Alicia, we're too old for that. I mean, Bill would end up vomiting.
Rosie
Okay.
Ben Mandelker
So then Billy comes.
Rosie
He's like, hey, everyone. Oh, wow. This is, like, food for, like, 75 people. You girls are all on diets and never even eat. She's like, yeah, that's true.
Ben Mandelker
So then Liz comes over, and I was like, liz. She's like, the norm of this family.
Ashley
Liz,
Liz
Alicia's family, I love them. They're fun to be around, you know? They are Riot. My sister and Alicia's mom, they're best friends. And when we first met that, I would say I was, like, 6 or 8 years old. I don't know. But, like, oh, good. I like them. I'm so happy. I love it here.
Ashley
You know what? I love being here with you ladies, because it's always so happy. Yeah. Yesterday I had a colonoscopy. My tmi.
Rula
I almost didn't make it today. I almost didn't make it today.
Ronnie Karam
Imagine yourself with a fist the size of Gibraltar going up your hood.
Liz
Alicia's mom and her sisters, they're blunt. They'll tell you every. Anything. Once you meet him, you never forget them.
Ben Mandelker
So then Ruler shows up, and she's like, hello. Hello, everyone. It's Ruler. My family's actually known Billy's daily. I don't know his family for, like, I don't know. I'd say 30 years we've patronize.
Rosie
I think that's the right word.
Ben Mandelker
His restaurants. And then his families use a jewelry store. It's all very interconnected. Isn't that a great.
Ronnie Karam
We're patrons. They're patrons.
Rula
That's how we all connect.
Ronnie Karam
So now Ashley comes over and hugs everyone. She's like, I've never been with the ladies in the group environment without Rosie, so I don't have my emotional support animal. But I've heard so much about these ladies. I'm sure it's gonna be great.
Rosie
And my esthetician does Anita and her
Ben Mandelker
mom, and, like, they're like her aunts. Like, they all go to my esthetician. So I guess I'm sort of connected, too. I guess I'm part of the family, right? I mean, they all go in together because one of them doesn't drive. Oh, it's just like, Alicia.
Ronnie Karam
This is like my big fat Greek wedding. But you guys are Italian. No, she didn't just call us Greek. You know what? Should we forgive her for that one?
Ben Mandelker
All right, don't give him a pizza chip, okay? She doesn't deserve it.
Rosie
This is.
Ben Mandelker
This recipe comes from Superior Bakery.
Rosie
Oh, yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Did you guys know that, like, we had Superior Bakery?
Rula
Yeah, My grandfather had Superior Bakery. Everybody in Rhode island loves him.
Ashley
Everybody loves them.
Ronnie Karam
And Ashley's like, yeah, you know, like, in Bill, you know, like, everyone wants them to get married. And she's like, yeah, I like Billy so much. And Liz is like, yeah, as much
Rula
as I love him, I want to be like, what are you doing? Like, make it right. Make it right, Bill.
Ronnie Karam
And so we have flash. We see a flashback to Alicia saying,
Rula
I went to the lawyers, and they said, you know what? He's not leaving you with any. Any money, not a penny method. You know, he wouldn't even put my name on the house.
Ben Mandelker
So they're all shocked that about this. Ashley's just like, why he won't, like, put your name on the house.
Rosie
She's like, this is jointly yours. I mean, like, absolutely no negotiation there.
Ben Mandelker
Like, this is where you raise your daughter together. This is where you make caramel macchiatos. This is where you fix ice machines. This is where you tell Joyce that her cappuccino is ready.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
This is pretty crazy, Ashley. This is crazy.
Rosie
How do you not.
Ben Mandelker
Like.
Rosie
Like, how do you.
Ben Mandelker
Like, if she says she wants to have her name on that house, her name should be on that house. You guys are in a committed relationship, and you're raising your child there.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And I don't know what the laws are there, like, with common law marriage and stuff like that, but I would suggest she leaves him now. Divorce. Or she can't divorce him, but leave him, sue him for half of everything, child support and all. Of that stuff because the prenup is even worse because then you're signing everything away. Where at this point, I think she would have a claim because it doesn't matter if they're married. It's like she helps him with the business, they have a kid together, whatever. But I think if she. I think she doesn't want to get married because she's not signing that prenup that's agreeing to get nothing. That's crazy.
Ben Mandelker
I used to tell her, you gotta go to a lawyer.
Liz
I was like, no, not only that, pizza mama. I mean, that's her. Come on, she's the pizza mama here.
Ben Mandelker
She was like, yeah, but no one's
Rosie
gonna put a name on a business
Ben Mandelker
that if he's not married to you.
Ronnie Karam
Well, yeah, but then why would I marry him? He's not going to put my name in a business or the house in my name. And he's not going to give me anything. Sharon, I don't. This is like old school advice that's was really bugging me to hear.
Ashley
Like, you know, men cheat. That's what men do. Like, why is it going to marry you? I'm gonna put, you gotta marry him if you want. Except nothing to get a little.
Rosie
You know, I've always been a runaway bride. I was always in long term relationships, just about to get engaged. Like, let's look at those rings right before I go, you know what? I don't think this is my forever, okay? I don't want to be some Spanish teacher that gets cheated on, you know, I would break up with them. And so with Billy, I like, I got the ring and I'm finally engaged. And now I'm like, still hesitant on getting married because it's like, I think I need more for him. I need him to work at Superior
Ben Mandelker
Bakery like my grandfather did.
Rosie
I need to feel more of a commitment before I make my commitment.
Ronnie Karam
And rule is like, you have to make sure you look out for yourself. I'm not a licensed attorney, but I don't have any charisma. And my financial planning. I understand all this stuff. I get it. Do you understand? Is my face moving at all?
Rula
Is it at all?
Ronnie Karam
Are my eyes blinking right now? I feel like I'm blinking.
Ben Mandelker
I like what she goes, I'm not a licensed attorney, but I work with many. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on tv.
Rula
Well, I'm glad she's here to tell you this stuff, honey.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. Because otherwise the law will dictate and I don't know many Dictators. But I've heard of many. And I'm all about trust. Okay? I'm all about trust. So Anita says, are you happily married? Yes, I am. But, you know, it's never perfect.
Ashley
That makes me so bad when you talk like that. It makes me so mad.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but we all get past any bumps, you know, Unless there's actual bumps, in a way.
Rula
Yeah, but of course we do. Yeah, we get past bumps, honey.
Ashley
Yeah, all of us get past bumps. They're gonna cheat on you. That's right.
Rula
There's all guys who will cheat on you. What are you gonna do? You're gonna grins and pass it. That's what you do, honey.
Rosie
You know what, though? Sometimes you can't get past bumps. Because I had a relationship for many years with my husband, and then I
Ben Mandelker
found out that he won.
Rosie
What?
Liz
He wanted.
Rosie
What do you want?
Liz
He wanted. He wanted.
Rosie
What did he want? What? It was like, what, a motorboat?
Liz
No, he wanted. He wanted. He wanted.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, wanted.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, he wanted. And so he laugh and we're like, there was an indiscretion. You're in a healthy, loving relationship. Something happens out of the blue. I don't want to cry. I'm crying right now, right? Is my face moving at all?
Rula
Don't cry, honey. It's all right if you do. We've all cried. We're not here to judge you.
Ronnie Karam
Not at all.
Rula
Cry. Cry.
Ashley
We've all been there.
Ben Mandelker
I'm just having a hard time getting over a lot of the lying and the twisting. Look at me. Look how angry I am. Sorry for yelling so much.
Rosie
Like, okay, let me tell you something, Ruler. It's hard to trust again.
Ben Mandelker
And this girl is gonna be looking over her shoulder. Where is he? He didn't show up for dinner or he had to go on a business trip. I'm telling you. Do you want to live like that for the rest of your life? You may know a lot of licensed attorneys, but do you know licensed attorneys that are looking over their shoulder every single day wondering, what's my man doing?
Rosie
What's going on with my man?
Ben Mandelker
Do you want to live with that?
Rula
And let me tell you, honey, I did live like that for a while.
Ashley
Mine had affairs with a lot of women. A lot of women.
Ronnie Karam
And rulers. Like, I'm listening, but I don't necessarily want to hear all of this. That's why I'm blinking so rapidly. Am I blinking? This is a lot about Brian that people don't know they haven't seen.
Rula
He's very loving. He's A great provider. You know, we also have children. He looks like Hellboy.
Ronnie Karam
And the one thing that sticks with me, though, do you want to spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder? That hits me. That's what hit me. Because it's very difficult to look behind me without a backup camera. I would be nothing
Ben Mandelker
for years. I just crashed into garbage cans and walls, just like, you know what? I have a feeling you're gonna work really hard. And I just hope and pray that you somehow hurt him.
Rula
Find the way.
Ronnie Karam
Find a way to hurt that man.
Ben Mandelker
Get that fucking man back. Yeah, get right up his ass. Just hurt him real hard.
Ronnie Karam
I'll tell you the truth. I'm gonna pray that you get him back. That's what I'm praying, honey. That's what I'm praying.
Ben Mandelker
I want you to get him back with the back side of your hand. Just smack them across the face a few times. I love this. I love that. You know what? You're right. Like, some of the advice is very old school in a way that I'm like, we're moving. We've moved past this outlook. What I loved was like this group of older women sort of coming in with the sort of motherly advice of like, we got you. You know, like, we've all been through it. We'll. We'll help you through it. Ruler, you know?
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, murder him. You know,
Ben Mandelker
I've been through it. Mine cheated on me left and right. And he always wondered what happened to his brake fluid.
Rula
So, yeah, I was wondering what happened to my brake fluid too.
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
So then we go to a petting zoo or something and Ashley's there with Rosie. And there are just. This scene was cracking me up because this scene is basically Rosie, like, yeah,
Ashley
you know, like he really wants kids.
Ronnie Karam
I don't really want kids, but he really does. And there are kids crawling all over Ashley, sticking their fingers up her nose. She's got one over here, one over there. They're crawling all over. She's just trying to ignore her. She's like, no, kids are great. You're gonna love kids. And if you don't have kids, you're gonna wonder, why don't you not have kids? I mean, look at me.
Ashley
Isn't this great?
Ronnie Karam
Anybody heard from dad? Anybody? Nobody? Okay, you know what? Could you call him from your phone? Just, he'll probably answer if one of the kids calls. We're so in love.
Ben Mandelker
We're so happy. Look, just. Just put out a takeout order for macchiato. He usually responds to that. Thank you. Yeah, it was hilarious because Rosie was just talking about like, yeah, like, are we gonna have kids? I don't really want to have kids because my mom wanted, like, you know, my mom wants me to have kids, but I don't want to have kids, and I don't want to be controlling. And the entire time Ashley is really trying to say. She. At one point, she says, oh, yeah, you know, I've become my mom, where I'm like, oh, have a kid, have a kid, have a kid. You never know. You're gonna love it. You don't want to wait too long, because then you're gonna regret it in, like, five years. So just have the kids now. Don't worry about it. There's nothing about this scene that is serving as a good advertisement for having children.
Ronnie Karam
None of this is a lore, okay? None of this. And then Rosie at one point goes,
Ashley
hey, little guy, what does a chicken sound make?
Ronnie Karam
Do you know? And bok.
Liz
Bok.
Rula
Wait, is.
Ashley
Is that what they sound like?
Rula
I think that's a duck. Now she's like, quack bok.
Ronnie Karam
No, that's a quack quack.
Rula
That. Ducks are.
Ronnie Karam
Quack quack.
Rula
She goes, oh, yeah, I have no idea.
Ronnie Karam
You know, I haven't been playing with kids toys.
Liz
I don't know.
Ronnie Karam
She goes, yeah, she's definitely not ready
Rula
to be a mom.
Ronnie Karam
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh, God.
Ashley
Okay.
Rula
Yeah, the. Punch me in the eye. It's okay.
Ashley
It's okay.
Ben Mandelker
That's.
Ronnie Karam
We're having fun, right?
Ben Mandelker
And Rosie is trying so hard to, like, have this monologue and express, like, this, you know, situation between her and her man. And the kid just, like, takes Ash's earring and throws it, and it's like,
Rosie
I will go get that.
Ben Mandelker
And she, like, does not even break from her monologue, which I'm impressed, because normally it's like, okay, I'm not gonna bother talking about anything in my life because we're just gonna pick up stuff that the kid is throwing down. Because, you know, toddlers love to take things and throw them on the ground. I don't know what joy they get from that. I don't know what the sensory element of that. Maybe it's a sense of control. I do not understand.
Ronnie Karam
They just love it.
Ben Mandelker
They love it. Take it, throw it.
Ronnie Karam
I still do it all the time.
Ben Mandelker
But Rosie's big thing that she sort of drills down to is that she just. She has a lot of issues with her mom, and she felt like her mom was very controlling and critical, and she basically is like, I don't want to do that to my child. And I kind of want to break the pattern. And she sort of ends the scene saying, like, I just. I don't want to mess anyone up. And I just Wanted to let her know that the truth is, no matter what, like, all parents are going to mess up their children, even the best parents, so don't worry about it. Right.
Ronnie Karam
Well, and then the ones that you meet who are like, oh, my God, I had the best childhood, Nothing bad ever happened to me.
Rula
It was great. I.
Ronnie Karam
They're not, you know, it's not always the best either. So, like some of us, yes, you know, the pain is sometimes necessary. But Rosie, you know, she is saying all this about the trauma of having a mom who didn't want her and stuff like that, but she also just doesn't want to have kids. She's like, we were trying when we first started dating, like, I would just not stop taking my pill and then I would, like, try. She's like, I know that's up, but I did kind of want a kid. And then I just realized, no, I, like, I really don't. I just don't want one. So I think that's. That's a rough age where everybody's like, okay, if you don't do it now, this is it, and you have to make that ultimate decision. I mean, if you don't want a kid, don't have a kid. I do suggest having nieces, though, that you can guilt into taking care of you when you're old.
Ben Mandelker
It sucks, though. Like, I like my. I think it sucks so much that all this pressure gets put on women. And it also, like when we just watched Quad on marriage Medicine, who for years didn't want to have a kid and then decide that she wants to have a kid, and it looks like it may be too late for her to carry a kid. And then the torture that she feels. I never want to be like, well, you don't want to, like, be down. You don't want to, like, find yourself at age 41, 42, and suddenly it's like, much harder. So, like, I never. I want people, if you don't want to have a kid, you should. Like, no one should make you feel bad for that decision. I just think it's such a mind. I think it's so unfair that this, like, this is like.
Ronnie Karam
I remember years ago I was telling my mom, do you think there's something in the food supply? Because, like, all of my friends are having trouble having babies. And she says, ronnie, you're in your 40s. Like, just the things you don't think about as a guy. But I can imagine, yeah, it's got to be rough for women because even as a gay guy, people are Always like, ronnie, why aren't you a dad? You're so good with kids. Don't you want to be a dad? You can adopt kids. You can even use a surrogate.
Ashley
You can do.
Ben Mandelker
Weren't you gonna.
Ronnie Karam
There's a lot of pressure on me. I don't even have a boyfriend ever. So.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, yeah, we. Dom and I get it a lot. People like, you guys want to have kids someday. I'm like, no, I'd like to have brunch.
Ronnie Karam
But, Dom, I just always say, because I, like, I love having a house cleaner, but I don't, like, live in house cleaners. I just want someone to leave.
Ben Mandelker
I want to be able to, like, do things. No, but I think that. I think that child, despite the fact that I'm on the record about how much kids drive me nuts, I am very paradoxical in that I actually think that, like, child, like, raising a child and like, all of that, I think, is actually so wonderful and so amazing. And, like, I just think, like, it's. It's a great thing, but it's just not something I want to do. You know what? Like, I think probably, like, being a marathon runner and, like, completing a marathon is probably a wonderful feeling. I'm never going to do it. Never gonna touch it, never gonna go near it. I won't even watch it on tv, honestly.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, exactly.
Rula
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
I mean, I look at accountants, I'm like, you guys are working so hard right now. You're doing such a good job. I don't want to do that. Like, I can respect you without wanting to have your life, you know?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
So Rosie is going through all of that, and Ashley's like, well, I'm supportive whatever decisions you're making, and I really hope this isn't an issue in the long run. You know what I mean?
Ben Mandelker
Oh, God.
Rosie
Hold on.
Ronnie Karam
I'm gonna. We called Jared for some. Jared, you still love me, right? Darren. Darren, it's up now.
Rula
Click. Okay.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, we're doing great. We're doing great.
Ben Mandelker
So then we go to Liz and her boat. The boat's called the Gypsy, spelled G, Y, P, S, E, A, which feels cringy because I think that that's no longer a phrase we're supposed to be saying. And screening that it's, like, emblazoned on a boat. But you know what? Hey, I guess this is what they're doing. And so Liz is. She's. She's calling Jerry because they sold the boat and she's getting everything off the boat.
Ashley
So Liz, miraculously, overnight, he sold the boat.
Rula
I'll bet he did.
Ronnie Karam
After his little. The. The mob connected guy selling his boat after being gone three weeks out of a month on his boat. I'm sure it has nothing to do with drugs.
Ben Mandelker
The police called.
Ronnie Karam
They're coming for the boat.
Ben Mandelker
We sold it. Good luck, suckers.
Liz
Jerry. Oh, And I sold the boat. Miraculously, I think Jerry decided to sell the Gypsy because he's had enough, and he's had his fill of sport fishing, and I love that he's home pro, mately now. God, we're gonna go. Go down that seawall every single day.
Ashley
Wow.
Liz
Maybe Dina will come.
Rosie
But especially with a new baby on the way, let's be honest. What's he really gonna do?
Liz
You think he's gonna change a diaper? When Jerry started spot fishing, it took him away three weeks. Maybe come home three days and go back another three weeks, you know? You know when they say there's other fish in the sea, I guess they really were a lot, because it wasn't uncommon for him to be actually called Dino and be like, hey, look, take a look. Keep an eye on her. You know, look after her. So, yeah, he was involved in the whole thing too. And that looked a lot like a thing that it wasn't.
Rula
Well, Liz asked me to help her
Ronnie Karam
out to clean her boat. Kelsey comes and she says, I'm nervous walking into this because I don't know
Rula
where a thought process is.
Ronnie Karam
You know, what do I do? So she comes in and they're like, you look pretty.
Rula
You look pretty.
Ashley
You look pretty.
Rula
You look pretty.
Ashley
Well, okay, listen, I'm just gonna pull there. This is how I feel. Kelsey. I'm not proud of my reaction, what you said to me. I feel like people ongoing, all right? I do not like curse words. And, you know, it triggered me, you know, because you of all people, though, there's nothing going on. Anything, all right? No ongoing nothing. And that's why it was like a gut punch. Like, you go sign the narrative to make me feel bad, you know?
Ronnie Karam
Well, I think when I said it, it. It's because, like, I had a different experience with Dino, and my instinct was, like, to, you know, try and get you to withdraw, because my experience wasn't really very good with him. And it's. This does not sound good. And then she tells us she had a weak moment 10 years ago, hooked up with Dino.
Ben Mandelker
She was 20.
Ronnie Karam
She and her boyfriend weren't exclusively dating. Kelsey just. Just cheats on everybody, by the way. We're learning now.
Ben Mandelker
And by the way, when she Said me and my boyfriend weren't exclusively dating. I hate to break it to you. You're still not exclusively dating.
Ronnie Karam
That's what I mean. She's never. Yeah. She's just always got something. And so she says she wasn't getting attention, so she started dating Dino, and Dino filled the void, and she was weak and vulnerable and unhappy. And then she tried to distance herself, but the more she. The more she hated him and said, get out of my life.
Rula
It's like, he loved that.
Ronnie Karam
And then he's like, oh, now you want me out? Okay, well, I'm gonna show up more. So he was stalking you, basically, is what you're saying.
Ben Mandelker
That's really scary. Especially because he's, like, a connected guy. Allegedly.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
This is like a very. She. She gave a very nice spin to what really sounds like a very scary situation. You know, I think that she's like, yeah, I'm not gonna.
Ronnie Karam
You're 10 years old. This guy, this older man comes with all this money, and then the minute you tell him no, he gets obsess and won't leave you alone. Yeah, sounds pretty scary.
Ben Mandelker
That's terrifying. Terrifying.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
But you know what? Dino seems like a great guy, a really great guy, and, yeah. So wonderful. We love Dino. He is a hero. And please don't murder us. Thank you, sir. Kelsey is like, I appreciate his friendship to you and how he took care
Rosie
of you, but I didn't have that same experience.
Ben Mandelker
I have, like, PTSD over it. And Liz is like, yeah, I got that, baby.
Liz
But we got the vastly different experiences. And I know you want nothing to do with that. I understand it, but you said the word ongoing, so, like, unfortunately, everything that you experience gets thrown out the window.
Ashley
Okay.
Liz
Because I'm going, God, I don't want to say the O word again. Oh, God.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, I did it.
Ashley
I'm wording up on my little sith now. Will you help people with the rest of my stuff to this boat so we can all move on? I want to get to the sea war with Nina.
Ben Mandelker
So now everyone's going to arrive at a parking lot to get onto. To get. Basically to travel to this Explorer Rail. Explorer place. They're all at this parking lot and they're. I don't know why they all, like, show up. And Rosie opens all their doors.
Rosie
She's like, hi, welcome to the parking lot.
Ben Mandelker
We were here.
Liz
You made it.
Rosie
We're in the parking lot lot.
Ben Mandelker
So they're all arriving, and Rosie is
Rosie
like, so in the famous words of Elle woods, working out gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy, and happy people
Ben Mandelker
don't kill their husbands.
Rosie
So maybe if we just cycle a little bit, we can just have a great day. And nobody wants to kill each other.
Ronnie Karam
So basically, Joellen's away from work and is away for work. And Rula is super excited. She's. Look at me.
Rula
I'm thrilled.
Ronnie Karam
Joellen's out of town. Am I blinking? I'm ready to pop champagne right there.
Rula
Pop bottles. Tequila.
Ronnie Karam
Let's fucking go.
Ben Mandelker
Rula is attempting to do fun. Rula today. It's not fun at all.
Ronnie Karam
It's not fun.
Ben Mandelker
Look at me, I'm bougie. I'm drinking. So they're drinking hard ciders, and they're in a car, and. And Kelsey goes, I opened one of
Rosie
these with my teeth before.
Ben Mandelker
And so she puts it in her teeth, and everyone, including me, starts cringing like, don't do that.
Rosie
Don't do that.
Ben Mandelker
Hideous teeth only go one direction, and that's downhill. Don't.
Ronnie Karam
When they're made out of a toilet lid. So good for her. So they get on these, like, little train cars, and basically you pedal the train cars so they're split up to these cars.
Ben Mandelker
So fun. I want to do it.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And Kelsey says, I packed so many snacks today, before I came here, I
Rula
ate the leftover McDonald's cheeseburgers I put in the trash, you guys.
Ben Mandelker
They're like, oh, okay. And then Ash is like, okay, we. She's like, we could be friends. That is something I would totally do, except I wouldn't. I don't eat leftovers from the trash. I just get my husband from there. So Rosie goes, well, I feel like
Rosie
everything I eat makes me feel, like,
Ben Mandelker
bloated and I feel sick. So, like, why not eat Taco Bell? Like, all I want.
Ronnie Karam
Is that because of the Ozempic Sick? No, no.
Rula
I've always been like that, you know?
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Rula
Like, I have colitis. That's why I had to quit, because I had to wear diapers to work.
Ronnie Karam
And they're like, oh, my God. She was literally bleeding from her butthole, you guys.
Rosie
Yeah. So then I took medical leave, and then I was on medical leave, and
Ben Mandelker
I'm like, this is amazing. Why would I ever go back to work? Then Kelsey tells us.
Rosie
Yeah, right.
Ben Mandelker
She left on medical leave. No.
Rosie
Me and the entire state of Rhode
Ben Mandelker
island knows that she got fired for having an affair with one of the higher ups.
Ronnie Karam
Cups.
Ben Mandelker
Wait, what? And is this a different affair than the. Than the rumor about the. The coach from Providence College. How many affairs can be had by one cat?
Ronnie Karam
This is so funny. So Kelsey's like, yes.
Rula
I love that.
Ronnie Karam
Rosie is like, oh, I don't want people to be talking about the affair. So I'm going to get them talking about my bleeding, my insane colitis,
Rosie
because then my. My colitis magically cleared up. And I was like, all right, I'm
Ben Mandelker
never going back to work. I'm like, like, you're working right now, sweetheart. Oh.
Ronnie Karam
So Liz is saying, okay, that is
Ashley
not at the party. I got mental. All right, But I got mental.
Rula
Yeah, you did, but it was your party. You're allowed to get mental. You know, it's my party, and I'll
Ronnie Karam
go through psychosis if I want to.
Rula
You know, the cuckoo clock came out. It was the cuckoo clock. He came out of me.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. But you know what? I appreciate that. You know, this is Dolores. I'm here, everyone. So Alicia goes, yeah, she said you apologize.
Liz
She's like, oh, did she say that?
Rosie
It's like, yeah, she said that.
Liz
She's like, yeah, well, she apologized to me too.
Rosie
And, you know.
Liz
But she probably didn't tell you that, huh? That she apologized to me.
Ben Mandelker
Alicia goes, yeah, well, so then they finally get to this place, and I
Ronnie Karam
already put them on the bike things. Sorry, everybody. Everyone's totally confused now.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I didn't. Didn't realize we were. I also thought they were on the bikes, but they. We were actually in the cars. People can be like, you guys didn't even watch this show. We did watch it. We just. Sometimes it's hard to tell different forms of transportation.
Rula
They went to a car to get
Ronnie Karam
to another car to get to a rail car. Okay, this is, like, left out of.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, yeah. It's like, literally, like, multiple vehicles throughout the whole rest of the show.
Ronnie Karam
Ruler is wacky Rula. So she pours drinks for people in the back of her little rail car thing, and Alicia makes some jokes.
Rula
She's like, I never done this railroad thing. Like, I don't do spin classes. I don't ride a bike. You know, But I do James Fonda. That's what I do. I do James Fonda.
Ben Mandelker
I still love her James Fonda.
Ronnie Karam
Her workouts on YouTubes. I love her so much.
Ben Mandelker
I love Jane's Fonda, but I love. I love her, obviously pluralizing Jane. Or it's either. It's either that she's pluralizing Jane, or she's making Fonda a possession of Jane. Yeah. But I love either version of that. But I also love her dedication to this long lost fitness fad. Just like, you know what I love doing? I love doing fitness from 40 years ago. Oh, it's so good.
Ronnie Karam
It's actually really good. Whenever I'm working out, which has been a long time, but whenever I'm working out, I used to like to do eight minute abs, which you can find on YouTube. And that's from like the 80s too. And it's really grainy. It's like a little tiny square on the thing.
Ben Mandelker
There's some. There are some. The person who invented eight minute abs, something just happened with this.
Liz
Them.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, God.
Ben Mandelker
No, it's a thing. Maybe they died. I don't know either. I'm sorry. It was just in the news. I could swear it was just in the news. Okay. They're just doing these things. They're on this, like they're going down the track and Rosie is talking to, to Liz. There's, they're, they're in the same little cart thing. And Rosie's like, so how do you feel about Ashley?
Rosie
And Liz is like, ah, you're so direct. She's like, I know, I can't even help it.
Liz
Like, you know what, you know, what do I, what do I know about. She's, you know, my very first experience, fourth of July. It wasn't a great one. Okay. Like, she didn't even look at me.
Ben Mandelker
And we see the 4th of July that Ashley barely said hi to Liz. So Liz is.
Rosie
Rosie says, honestly, Liz, you can be like really scary.
Ben Mandelker
Like, I don't think you realize how scary you are.
Rosie
Like, you're so successful, you're beautiful, you have all these nice things about you.
Ashley
But those aren't scary things. Is you're listing there? Those aren't scary things.
Rula
But all of them together could be scary.
Ben Mandelker
But by the way, when she says
Rosie
those aren't scary things, she says that
Ben Mandelker
in the scariest way. You could say that. Yeah.
Ashley
Scary things right there. You know, maybe I do come across as scary, but I know where my heart resides. I would give you the shirt off my back, but I do find often when I come around the corner, people do jump. So maybe I am a little scary.
Ronnie Karam
My God, I jump every time you come on the tv.
Ben Mandelker
I know, Seriously. So they get to the end of this, like, track and Dolores is like, that was very fun. Thank you. It was almost as fun as that fruit salad you made me.
Ronnie Karam
So now they go to like another little public park area where they sit on Adirondack chairs around a fire pit with real wood. Which means that there's tons of smoke blowing. And the wind starts blowing and just starts blowing all the smoke into Rosie's face. And she just sits there.
Ben Mandelker
She doesn't move. Just wipes it off. Like, literally. She looks like she's crying, but she's just getting out of her eyes.
Ronnie Karam
She's literally crying because there's so, so much smoke. And she doesn't move. Like, move. No. Do I have to come over there and move your chair? What are you doing?
Ben Mandelker
And Fun Rula, she's like, guys, I have a buzz. Oh, my God. I'm being booze right now. Look at me. I'm so much more fun than Joellen, right, guys?
Rosie
Look at me. Fun ruler. So they.
Ben Mandelker
They. They sit, and they're like, wow.
Liz
It's like, oh, wow, Rosie woods, you outdid yourself. Out of on deck chairs with a view of the sea. Wow. This is just the nicest thing we ever done did. Except for me. I mean, I have a sea wall in my backyard, but this is nice, too.
Ronnie Karam
So Ashley and Rosie go walk to the water station, and Rosie's like, okay, so I was with Liz, obviously, and you came up.
Rula
And I know she was just basically,
Ronnie Karam
like, the first time I met Ashley, she snubbed me. I gonna kill the bitch. Like, literally take her on a fishing boat, throw her over while I stop the boat.
Rula
So, yeah, you don't pay attention to
Ronnie Karam
her, so you're not even trying.
Rula
That's what she said.
Ronnie Karam
So Ashley's like, oh, God. Oh, geez. Now what do I do? And really goes, they're having some side combos over there. Here's all I heard.
Rula
Like.
Ronnie Karam
Like.
Rula
Like, I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
Doing that. She's like, look at them, those young women just saying like. Like, like, all the time. God, they can't even speak right. So then basically, Ashley says, you know, my mom always said that when she was younger that people mistook her shyness for bitchiness.
Rosie
I think that's what's happening here.
Ben Mandelker
I'm just, like, truly shy in front of some people, especially the scary ones. So I'm gonna work on it.
Rula
All right.
Ashley
All right.
Rula
Let me ask you a question. Like, I really want to help Pizza Baba. Okay? So I grow up Pizza Baba with Billy. Yeah. I got all these ideas, and I want to show up. I could do it, you know? Like, I'm not just a girl that's from Superior Bakery, which my grandfather started. Everyone knew him at Rhode island, you know, I'm just not someone who's going to do your laundry all day, you know?
Rosie
What?
Liz
I mean, so what do you mean? You're the name. You're the pizza mama. You invented it. You designed it.
Ben Mandelker
I don't want to do it.
Rosie
And Alicia's like, no, none of it's
Ben Mandelker
in my name, though, FYI.
Rosie
She's like, but you have to demand it.
Liz
It's up to you to manage it.
Rosie
It's like.
Ben Mandelker
So Ashley says, well, have you ever
Rosie
had a conversation about it?
Ben Mandelker
And so then they decide that they're going to do some role playing where Kelsey is going to pretend to be Bill and Alicia is gonna talk. Is going to. It's gonna talk to Kelsey like she's Bill.
Rula
Alicia goes, okay, okay, I love doing this stuff.
Ronnie Karam
I love that Alicia's just role playing with her friends often. Okay, I'm Bill.
Rula
Okay, so what are you gonna say to Bill? Okay, look, here's the thing, Bill. I can't have sex with you all the time because it's not like I'd rather go to bed and watch Love Island. There, I said it.
Rosie
Yeah, I'd rather go to bed.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, okay, well, do you want, like, how about something more specific? He's like, okay, well, I'm not putting you on the house, Alicia, which is the thing that we're really here to talk about, not Love Island.
Rosie
Oh, yeah. Well, then I say, please, Billy, I have all these ideas, like, pizza mama without asking for a dollar back and knowing that I'm getting zero for like 11 years or something like that. And, like, I'm giving you my whole life. Life and. But, like, at the heart of it, like, you should be putting me on a house because you should want to take care of me. I'm the mother of your daughter and I love you. Isn't that enough? Like that showing me something, huh? Isn't that enough, Billy, cry.
Ronnie Karam
That was actually really good. You didn't even need this work like you have it. So just go say that. And so rule is like, yeah, and tell him there's intrinsic value of being a wife and a mother that you're not being compensated for.
Ashley
Okay.
Ronnie Karam
Even my kids got $9 trillion yesterday to water.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, there's an intrinsic value of being a wife and a mother. Kelsey turns around and goes, she doesn't even know what intrinsic means.
Ronnie Karam
And then it comes to Alicia, and
Rula
Alicia's like, yeah, what was that?
Rosie
But I can say in Spanish, had a great teacher.
Ronnie Karam
Okay, let me put it in layman's terms.
Rula
I don't know what that is either. Okay, let me make it simple.
Ronnie Karam
Just because you're not actively earning an income. You're doing laundry, you're doing cooking, cleaning, whatever.
Rula
Helping with stuff. You got value. She's like, oh, my God. Rule is so financially independent. Like, I envy that about her. I. I hate asking Billy for money. Like, I feel almost embarrassed or intimidated with, like, the whole financial thing.
Rosie
This is like.
Rula
Wait, you guys. What were you talking about earlier? You know, because I saw you. You guys over there. You was talking. What were you saying?
Rosie
Oh, we were just having a little chat. Yeah. Well, what happened? Oh, well, nothing. We were talking about how Rosie and I have been very intimidated by Liz.
Ben Mandelker
You. That one. Oh, my God. She's looking right back at me. I should never said her word name.
Rosie
I hear if you say Liz's name
Ben Mandelker
three times in a row, she comes through your. Your mirror and drags you into another world.
Ronnie Karam
Rosie says, don't rub me into this.
Rula
I did tell you on the rails,
Ronnie Karam
though, that, you know, sometimes you can be scary, Liz, you know, which is true.
Rula
Like, you know, intimidating. But I'm not scared now. You know, sometimes. Well, okay, I'm a little scared.
Ashley
Was like, you're on this list. I got this really silly exterior, but deep down, I'm super sensitive. And I think that's why, you know, I think maybe it could be partly a defense mechanism or partly. Maybe this just be the badass will
Rula
kill you if you with her.
Liz
I don't really allow many people to get close especially fast. And I've experienced so much loss in my life that I either don't want to get close to people or then I lose them and don't want to get close to people and then be disappointed about them.
Rosie
Like, okay, so Liz is like, you
Liz
know, sometimes I, you know, I. I sometimes tend to jump down people's throats, but not on purpose.
Ronnie Karam
So Rosie asked her if.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, exactly.
Ronnie Karam
Do you think, well, that's what happened on Saturday.
Ashley
And she goes, Saturday and my party. No, I was heated. I was drunk, and I'm not proud of it. No, my brain is, Mama.
Ronnie Karam
Circumstances happen, and you move on. Next, has anybody tried Liz's iced coffee?
Ben Mandelker
It pairs beautifully with fruit salad. They all say it, I say it. So Rosie goes, well, Alicia, you said
Rosie
she's always been like that, which is like, with what? It's like, you know, you.
Ashley
That.
Rosie
That Liz just gets mad. Why?
Rula
Huh?
Rosie
You know, when you said she, you know, she's hoping to never react that way again, you should have said, it's probably not gonna change Rosie. I wouldn't do that, though. I wouldn't do that. Were cut from the same cement. Cloth.
Ben Mandelker
You got cloth?
Rosie
I'll take some cloth. No, no, you're cut from the same cloth. Why are you cutting your cloth? Why you buy cloth to cut it? See, this is what's wrong with you.
Rula
Listen, I just said what it is. Okay? Don't be trinic. But like, why did you say that? And Rosie's like, because I asked, like, has she always been like this? Wait, you know what?
Ashley
How was that?
Rula
Don't turn that around. Don't turn that around right now. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't turn it around.
Ronnie Karam
She goes, oh, my God, freak out,
Rula
but then be cool is what she meant. Rosie, Rosie. I would do that if I were you. Just keep it real. Okay? Don't do that. Okay.
Ronnie Karam
And so Rosie' like, okay, well, I guess she's upset that I told the truth.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. But I also kind of thought like that was. It was just like a fact that we were all acknowledging. And I guess you really can't be
Rosie
honest or transparent because everybody's afraid.
Ronnie Karam
So Alicia's okay being honest and transparent. Lady who made up colitis to get out of being fired for the boss
Ben Mandelker
and obviously pitting these two against each other is very Whitney Rose. Like, so, yeah, that's her.
Ronnie Karam
That's her role in this. She's just going to go try and start fights with everybody all the time.
Ashley
Time.
Ben Mandelker
She's like a Whitney Rose, but a Whitney Rose who's kind of disgusted by things, which I like.
Rosie
So Alicia says, no, I said, this is who you are. This is Liz. And you know, they're like, they're like trying to make it into something like, you know. And so Rosie goes, you just admitted you said it. I mean, I, I didn't admit this. Don't flip like that. Don't flip that. Don't do that to me. Don't put in my mouth, okay? Unless it's a pizza chip. I'll eat a pizza chip from Superior Bakery. My grandfather started Superior Bakery. Don't even, don't even say his name. Stop talking about Superior Bakery. Because guess what?
Ronnie Karam
What?
Rosie
You know me like that.
Rula
Y.
Rosie
Okay, Once you flip your. I'll never see you in the same light again. So you slow your roll, cuz you're not hot. You're not hot. You don't even have a piece of chips in your name. What bakery did you work in? None. Huh?
Ronnie Karam
Gone.
Rula
Oh, yeah. Now I know who you really are. Don't with me, okay?
Ashley
And look like it's all right, babe. Okay.
Rula
No, it's not all right. It's all right, cuz she twisted my words, all right? And I don't even know that many, so. You're a troll. You're a troll is what you are.
Liz
Someone get on a thick noon already.
Rosie
You know, I. I don't like feeling betrayed. Like, what are you trying to do? Like, what are you trying to. What are you trying to prove? I wasn't bashing Liz, and I don't like how Rosie twisted it. I don't like that behavior. I don't like the snakes.
Liz
I don't like it at all.
Rula
She me. And I'm not into that. I'm not into that. All right, you did me and you know what now? Welcome to Rhode Island. Welcome to Rhode Island. This is how we roll.
Ronnie Karam
Look, isn't she from Rhode Island?
Ben Mandelker
I know.
Ronnie Karam
Like, literally does the local news on Rhode Island. You're like, welcome to Rhode Island. I think she understands Rhode Island. I think at this point.
Ben Mandelker
I'm sorry, I just really miss watching the OCA Sometimes I have to quote
Rosie
it, you know, It's a great show. 20 years old.
Rula
Thirsty. You're so thirsty, it's scary. Whore. You're a fucking whore is what you are.
Ronnie Karam
I was like, whoa, whoa.
Ben Mandelker
I love this. I love this. So Ash is like, I don't even know what happened, but I want to cry. So Alicia goes off and he's like, Roller tries to go after. And Alicia's like, no, no, no.
Rosie
I need to get out of here, because I'm not. I'm gonna end. I'm killer. I'm gonna kill her. No.
Ben Mandelker
Calm down a second.
Rosie
Come here. Come here.
Ben Mandelker
Okay. Come here. Okay, I got a buzz. I'm being a bit bougie right now. Okay. I apologize for yelling back at the fire.
Ashley
Liz is like, did I miss something there?
Ronnie Karam
Roach is like, I don't even know how this happened.
Rula
I'm just, like, so starstruck by it that, like, what?
Ben Mandelker
It's like, wow, this fight. It's like Denzel Washington walked in. I'm so starstruck by it. I think she. I think she.
Rosie
I think she thinks that I was
Ben Mandelker
trying to start a problem with you, which I was.
Rosie
But now I'm gonna act like I didn't.
Ben Mandelker
And I just don't know why she doesn't realize that I'm not starting a problem with you.
Rula
Oh, yeah.
Ashley
Oh, yeah. I could hear you over there.
Rula
I could hear you.
Ashley
You know what I could handle?
Rula
What?
Ashley
What? What?
Rula
I was just saying you tried to do something you shouldn't have done. You know, like, you just did the most grossest thing ever. Okay, it was the most grossest. Like, thank you for showing me your cards. Thanks for showing me your cards.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, Liz isn't upset about anything. It's okay.
Rosie
It doesn't matter how she twisted things. It's what's. It's what's weird. In me out, okay? It's like a.
Ben Mandelker
It's like driving on bridges.
Rosie
Who does that? Right? Because people like that, they're just like a little troll. Like, snake eyes. But, like, that's just not my style. Okay, you know what? I'm a local road.
Ben Mandelker
You're a highway.
Rosie
Get out of here, you.
Ronnie Karam
I feel really bad for Rosie because, like, this is a demonstration of Alicia's gonna defend Liz, you know? And I don't know, it's not that deep. It's nutso. I've never seen anything like this on my entire life.
Rosie
She's like, I would never have said it if I thought you would react this way. Like, Jesus.
Rula
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't like the way you looked, okay? I don't like the way I looked. Yeah, you look like a pizza chip with ice, okay?
Ronnie Karam
And pizza chip shouldn't talk.
Rosie
Yeah, your eyes look sneaky. You just get a sneaky little troll. It's like. Well, maybe I'm like, maybe because I'm in the middle of the smoke.
Rula
It's like, no, no, I don't like snakes either.
Ronnie Karam
And you're a snake, though.
Rula
You're a snake and a troll. Okay? Snake, Troll person.
Liz
All right, Alicia, come on. Come here. Listen, listen. Alicia, Alicia, Alicia.
Ben Mandelker
So Liz goes after Alicia.
Liz
Come on, Alicia. What's going on over here?
Rula
She's. You know what? She lies. That freaks me out. Like, I don't like that. Okay?
Ronnie Karam
Liz goes, what's happening?
Ashley
Hey, by the way, do I have
Rula
chocolate on my mouth? Just. No, you know what? Like, I feel like I'm drooling, too.
Ronnie Karam
Am I drooling?
Liz
What happened to you is. Is what happened to me Saturday night. I had the exact response. Worse, actually. In some ways, my storyline's a little
Rosie
bit better than yours.
Liz
And I regretted it the next day.
Rula
No, no, I'm not going to regret it.
Ronnie Karam
I promise you that.
Ashley
Gabby, your reaction, you might.
Rula
You might.
Ronnie Karam
You might.
Ashley
You might regret it.
Rosie
No, no, not with her. No. I was too loyal to her, too. You know, I don't give a. But I'm like, not with her.
Liz
Not with her.
Ben Mandelker
So then Ashley's like, well, that was shocking for Me to see. And Rosie's like, shocking for me to experience. Jesus. I guess that's her thing, is that she just says Jesus at the end of everything when she's dismayed. Jesus.
Ronnie Karam
They're all just cracking up that Alicia is losing it. It's like one little thing. And now Alicia's gonna scream and yell for the rest of the night. They're cracking up because it really is funny. And so now they come back because Liz has calmed her down and Kelsey's like, yeah, Rosie just exaggerates and manipulates stories and, you know, don't keep talking about nonsense.
Rula
You get what you get.
Ronnie Karam
So they come back and Alicia's like, you know what?
Rula
I. I tell Liz exactly how I feel.
Ashley
She goes, I didn't say you didn't.
Rula
Yeah, you just acted weird. And I don't like what you did. You know what? You distracted me tonight. You distracted me.
Ben Mandelker
You distracted me. It's like, well, I'm sorry I disrespected you.
Rosie
I didn't mean to. Well, then learn from that. It's like, well, I think you misinterpreted it. No, I didn't. It's like, well, I think it had an intrinsic thing.
Ben Mandelker
I just said that to confuse you.
Rula
Where am I? Where am I?
Rosie
How do we get into.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, my God, can we go talk about it?
Rula
She goes, oh, you know what? Like, I'd rather you tell me. Sorry. Like, just tell. Just say sorry.
Ronnie Karam
She's like, just come talk to me. And so they walk away.
Rula
Now Liz is like, oh, God, why
Ashley
you gotta walk over there to talk about it?
Rosie
So leash is like, rosie, you just threw me for a loop. She's like, I don't understand. I had a whole conversation with Liz on the way here, and I said, a lot of times I feel intimidated by you, and I feel like people walk on eggshells with you. She's like, well, she knows that.
Liz
Exactly.
Rosie
So I was like, why is it
Liz
okay to call me out?
Ben Mandelker
But you're not gonna call her out?
Ronnie Karam
So Ruler's like, where's the. Give me some of that. They're like, is there any more? It's bougie Ruler.
Rosie
Okay, back to me. Rosie, can you just understand that I'm not coming from a bad place? What, like Cranston?
Ben Mandelker
No, I'm literally don't even live there.
Rosie
Okay, well, if you say you're sorry, I'm good. Good, good.
Liz
Well, I'm really sorry.
Ben Mandelker
And I just don't want us to not be friends. I just don't want it to Be
Rosie
like you secretly hating me.
Rula
Like, I don't hate you. I don't hate.
Ronnie Karam
What are you talking about?
Rula
Okay. Okay, we're good. Are you good? Okay, because I can get over. I can get over it. Okay, you. You can't, though, right? Because you. You gotta work past this.
Rosie
You know what? I'm a sensitive gangster.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. All of a sudden, Alicia's like, no, I love you.
Ronnie Karam
Get over it. What are you mad about?
Rosie
I had a Fig Newton.
Ben Mandelker
You weren't watching. I had a fig Newton.
Rosie
I feel so much better sometimes. I have a temper. I forgive easily. You know, all you have to do is say sorry. You know, if I had my peppermint oil, I probably wouldn't have been. I probably would have been more calm. The smell, you know, it calms me down. It's like, you know, Mary Catherine Gallagher's. You know, you put your fingers in the. In your. In your armpits and you smell. I can't even do it. I can't.
Ben Mandelker
I can't do it. I can't do it. It's too much.
Ronnie Karam
Somehow. They hug, and everyone's like, oh, my
Rula
God, did she just hug her?
Ronnie Karam
And they go, God, this is record time at Flip Flop World.
Ashley
Yeah, that's why we call Cece the Flip Flop Up. That's why we call it that.
Ben Mandelker
And that's where it ends. Is hilarious. That was a very funny fight, mainly because it was Alicia talking the entire time. And just hearing her talk is hilarious to me.
Ronnie Karam
So silly. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. That brings us to the end. We'll see you tomorrow for some more recoupage. Oh, actually, tomorrow's gonna be a little late. It's not going up till tomorrow night because I will be traveling. Okay, just put out the word. We'll talk to you next time, everybody.
Rula
Love you.
Ben Mandelker
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Recapping RHORI S1E03: "Pizza Chip on the Shoulder"
April 20, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Ben and Ronnie dissect Episode 3 of The Real Housewives of Rhode Island (RHORI), reveling in its blend of local food traditions (“pizza chips”), family drama, marital intrigue, and the franchise’s emerging cast dynamics. They bring signature wit and gossip to the conflicts and memorable quirks of the new Bravo series, diving deep on everything from Mafia rumors to the perplexing world of Rhode Island cuisine.
In this episode, Ben and Ronnie perfectly channel the emerging chaos and warmth of RHORI—spotlighting its food, family, Mafia-adjacent rumors, and rapid-fire emotional pivots. From the deep dive into pizza chips to the group’s volcanic argument and speedy reconciliation, their joyful mocking and affection for the format shine throughout. As more cast secrets spill and tribal lines harden, it's clear that Real Housewives of Rhode Island is establishing itself both as comfort food and high drama—in true Bravo style.
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