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#3324 Crappy Hour 4/20/2026: Ciara Speaks, RHORI Misteress Sued, Lisa H Arrested
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Ronnie
Hello and welcome to Crappie Hour Live. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.
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Ben
Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Good.
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Ronnie
What are you doing?
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Ben
Just hanging out here with you. Ready for a big crappy hour. I'm excited to see all the people, all the gorgeous people here in the. In the world of. Of, you know, podcasting, etc. Oh, you know what? I think we need to change the settings on this a little bit. Shall we? Why? Because it sets on private. But you know what? I'm going to change it right now to public.
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Ronnie
Dang it, everyone.
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Ben
Here it comes.
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Ronnie
I'm a mess today with this. Okay. Because I already.
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Ben
It's okay. We can hang out here while people come in. While people are filter. People filter in and say hello.
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Ben
Right away. Hello, everyone. That's so quick. Amazing how the Internet works.
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Ronnie
Well, Instagram's not getting it today. Sorry, Instagram. But some. I had a technical difficulty over here. I don't know what happened. Probably putting the wrong string key. You going to do. What are you going to do? You know what?
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Ben
Mercury is in Lincoln right now. That's what I got to say. I wouldn't say it's in retrograde. It's just in Lincoln. Hannah says excited as. As Ben. Already channeling Luke. Yeah, you know, Luke for Congress.
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Ronnie
You know, here's what I believe in. More cheese curds in dishes.
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Ben
Here's what we need. Hot dishes. Not Cold dish. But I'll serve you a cold dish of truth. I don't like you. There, I said it.
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Ronnie
Yeah, we were talking about him running for Con Gray on the regular show, and we were saying it's weird that west calls them casseroles and Luke calls them hot dishes. But we found out it's regional. Missouri calls them casseroles. So there you go. I know you guys were worried and you tuned in today to see if we would address that, and we did. So there you go. So. So a lot of you, and by a lot of you, I mean me, are probably sick of the Sierra West Amanda drama. But guess what? Still going today. We got a special gift. Ben, did you know? Have you heard about the special gift? I avoided telling you before we were recording because I knew you decided.
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Ben
What's the special gift?
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Ronnie
Somebody died. Just kidding. That's usually your. That's usually your move, is to find somebody dead.
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Ben
I did text you last night.
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Ronnie
You did. We don't need to bring that up. I didn't say that for you to bring that up. But we did get a special surprise today in the form of west giving his first interview about all of this. So a bunch of interviews happened. Actually, Ciara gave an interview. Hers was a good one. I mean, I didn't read the interview, but it was gorgeous because it was for what, fashion magazine? Was it for Glamour and Hunter Harris? Mm, yes. And she looked great. So, you know, I'm like a housewife when it comes to reading really long articles. I was like, no, but I read a lot of clips from it, so I feel like I read it. So she gave one, and west came out today and gave his interview on a podcast. And it was a blonde girls podcast. And I don't know if it's Call Her Daddy. No, I think it's the other one.
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Ben
Brianna Chicken Fry.
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Ronnie
No. You know how there's two blonde ladies who look just the same? There's like Alex Earle and Alex Cooper. Cooper. And they're fighting the other one. Yes. Was it one of them? I don't know. It was a very pretty blonde girl, but nobody is crediting her in any of the clips that they're posting on Instagram. They're just like, here's a podcast west was on. I'm assuming it was like some barstool sports thing. Cause that's his jam. Right. But anyway, some clips from it. He's wearing a hat, but he's wearing, you know, it's like bright orange. Like cone orange. Traffic cone orange. And it's Kind of shaped like a traffic cone. It's one of the ones that go really tall.
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Ben
Oh, yeah, like that. Huh, huh.
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Ronnie
And some smart boy glasses. So here's a quote. You know, one thing I would like to be very clear about is that there was no overlap. No overlap at all. You know, I know there's, like, a thousand different theories on the Internet, but that is one thing that for sure did not happen. Everyone was single. And then, like, we realized that, like, maybe we're a little serious in February, and then that's when it started, and then that's not a whole more to it than that. Okay, but if you realized it was serious in February, then that means that you were doing other stuff before February. Right, Right. And she's still married. So I guess he meant no overlap since the separation announcement.
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Ben
Yeah, I think that's what it has to have been. But I don't believe him at all. Of course.
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Ronnie
Right.
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Ben
Like, we don't.
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Ronnie
I don't believe him. I also got an interview from someone named Rondol on Instagram, and he said, I do not believe you. Exclusive. Exclusive. It was only here.
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Ben
Exclusive news.
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Ronnie
She also said something like, oh, you know, have you been feeling better, West? And he's like, well, you know, been a lot. Been a lot better in life, but trying to take it a day a time and stay off my phone. But the Internet's really scary, and Amanda's taken, like, a big brunt of it. You know, like, her number got leaked and someone texted her that she's a home wrecking, and that absolutely did not happen. You would be the home wrecking core, not her.
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Ben
Yeah. I mean, there has to be a home to wreck, first and foremost. So to be fair, she has not wrecked anything. But, yeah, I, I, I love this turnabout. Like, because he, you know, he has said this this season. He's like. So I didn't realize that, like, going to, like, journalists would be, like, bad. And, like, I really. I get that now. I get that. I totally get that now. I don't think he ever really. I don't think he really got it. I think he said that to Sierra just to say it to Sierra. And I think that now, now that he's on the receiving end and seeing that Sierra's had this whole big article in Glamour magazine, now he gets it now he knows what it feels like to have someone talking about you and their relationship with you on a platform that's bigger than what you can offer and knowing that you can't really reply or clarify Something that was said in that article, and I love that he is now on the brunt. Bearing the brunt of that.
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Ronnie
Yeah, I had you open in another window. So you were still talking. I was trying to see what was going on with Patreon.
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Ben
Oh, I apologize.
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Ronnie
You see, I was still talking in my head, but. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. And I was thinking that a little too, as far as seeing this year. I did it and being like, okay, well, now I need to give an interview. But Glamour magazine was like, this is called Glamour magazine. Not Tofungus face.
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Ben
Yeah. I don't know if Wes is. I don't think he's inherently qualified to be featured in a magazine called Glamour. I think, like, you know, Dog. Fancy Dog on Fancy magazine or just like, ew.
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Ronnie
Is there one called ew? Well, Entertainment Weekly, actually.
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Ben
Entertainment. There is.
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Ronnie
Ew.
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Ben
Do that one. I have been following the west stuff. I am shockingly, shockingly not sick of it. I'm enjoying it. I find that it's actually like at like a very. It's like at a nice simmer. It's like bubbling away. But it's not as crazy as Scandal was, but it's definitely still happening and going forward. And like, the thing that happened this weekend that people were talking about was that west and Amanda went to a Yankees game. Guys, they went to a Yankees game. And she was like. They were sitting together and Amanda, of course, had, like, her knees up, so they're like, covering most of her face. But I don't think she was doing it to cover her face. I think she's just someone who goes to a baseball game and sits in a sad way. Like, I guess, here's baseball. And she was like, act like you like me. Act like you like me. So he's like, you want me to act like I like you? Okay. So then he, like, kissed her. This seems to have been. I think this was, like, on tv, right? It was. The clip looked like it was, like, pulled from television. I. I feel like the yes network, which is the Yankee network, I feel like they must have had a camera trained on. On them the entire game. Waiting for a moment for them to
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Ronnie
kiss cam or whatever that they have.
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Ben
I think they were like these two people, the moment they kiss, we're putting it on the air. We're going to just run that back.
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Ronnie
Yeah, that makes sense because that's what it looked like. It looked like it was some sort of a kiss cam or something that they were being filmed. And she didn't look like, she was hiding. She was just. She had her foot up on the chair behind her and there was someone sitting in that chair. So there was one thread of people really upset about that. And then she was, like trying to pull his pants while he was cheering. You know, the whole thing while he's going to a game with somebody, you're not really into the game, but they just keep standing up and screaming. But also, he was the only one in the whole crowd that was standing up and screaming and yelling. It's like he was going out of his way to get attention. So, you know, which is obviously why he's doing all of this. But, yeah, he didn't seem to be like, wow, don't look at me. He was like, look at me, I'm cheering. They're like, we're not even playing yet. You can sit down.
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Ben
It's like, yeah, he's taking a victory lap. He's doing a victory lap. He is in the middle of a white hot scandal and I think he loves it.
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Ronnie
Yeah, he's loving it. So. But, you know, there's that. And then there was a girl at the game who's like, oh, my God, I'm at the game. What's this? Here with Amanda? Oh, my God, blah, blah, blah. And, like doing breathless reporting. And that seemed like crazy, you know, turning around, like, lock it down. And then the lip readers to find out that Amanda was saying whatever she said, like, act like you like me. You know, that was just lip readers were saying, maybe she said that. So it's a lot of people just going crazy in the streets over Amanda and West. Amanda's message. Hold on, let me see. Because this all started basically with Amanda putting out the message of. Well, putting out the story of just her dog sleeping, who's very cute. And, you know, whenever you're in doubt, you respond with a cute dog picture. And I think that that's a pretty good way to live. Like, if I ever get in trouble with taxes, it's gonna be a picture of Bueller and not now, but like, when he was a puppy, like, looking all cute and stuff. And I'll be like, sorry, I didn't pay my taxes, but I didn't understand them. So she posted that and it's like, hey, guys, it's going to be really short and sweet. Like, obviously I've been mia. Well, not me, because you guys really like Mia, but Mia and I just wanted to come back and I mean, I've disappointed in her. People, especially those I know, have reached out individually, including this dog, isn't it cute? But for the sake of my mental health, I'm going to try to start living a life with some sense of normalcy. So she did this whole big post and then was out. So she started leaving the house and people are like, oh my God, it's Amanda. It's Amanda. It's Amanda. And the gas and go. It's Amanda. To gas and go. How can Amanda be out here? What is she doing? And then so they just started getting normalcy.
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Ben
Yeah, they started said that about Amanda. Oh, my God. There's. No one's ever said the phrase, oh my God, there's Amanda.
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Ronnie
Whip out your phone. Yeah, yeah, there was that. And then so everybody was reporting. Oh, my God. They went to a movie and they came down the escalator together. Here's them. Oh, my God. Here's Wes leaving, leaving the house. I guess why I'm saying I'm sick of it is just, it's just an interesting couple. I guess so.
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Ben
And the updates are not, are generally not amazing. It is kind of like, oh, look, they went to Golden Corral, you know, and. But I kind of like, I kind of like, it's kind of low key. Like here they are doing something mundane around the city. What's going to happen now? I don't know. It's sort of like watching a storm tracker, you know, it's like, oh, but
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Ronnie
it's like a, it's a storm where nothing really ever happens. Or like, okay, here's the red coming. The red is coming right out. We're going to be here all day. And then they keep interrupting. They're like, well, it's not raining yet, but it could. It could.
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Ben
Yeah.
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Ronnie
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Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
So some of these comments are pretty funny. We're not seeing them on our feed, so I went on to YouTube to look at them. I don't know what happened today. Technically, I was in charge of it, so maybe that's explaining it. But I'm reading some of these comments on YouTube and they're so funny. It says, cheering for the Royals at a Yankees game tracks. And Kitty says, yeah, not trying to defend west, but he was rooting for Kansas City and not the Yankees. So that's why no one else was standing up. Still, though, he's like, in a place where he's like a. You know, he's getting national attention and he's just, like, standing up and screaming for the wrong team. That does track. You're correct, Kitty. That does track.
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Ben
It does. It does really attract. I. Wait. There was something I was going to say about this, by the way. So there's some ancillary things that are sort of coming out of this. One quick thing.
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Ronnie
He takes great photos.
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Ben
What'd you say?
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Ronnie
He took great photos back in the day.
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Ben
Ancillary Adams. One thing. Over the weekend, I saw kj. He tweeted out or put something on threads that was like, please stop cyberbullying my girlfriend. Why are people cyberbullying Dara? Who's doing this to Dara? Why is Dara catching heat in this? Do you know anything about this?
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Ronnie
I have no idea. Maybe because she lied in that. About that Ben thing with Bailey when she was like, I never even went into his room. I don't even know what you're talking about. Or whatever she said. Or like, she wasn't. She didn't say she wasn't in there. But what'd she say? I don't know. Something like, oh, they took my luggage in there. Maybe. Maybe the fans are just like, you liar. You know how fans are.
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Ben
Michael Horn in the comments goes, this is Dara. Great callback. Great callback.
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Ronnie
To Ladies London.
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Ben
Big, big. Springtime for Dara's on Bravo.
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Ronnie
Someone.
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Ben
So the other thing. What? Okay, this is two things. Two things Kyle Cook related. The first was that he. Then after this Yankee Stadium thing happened, Kyle Cook course tweeted out. He's like, I wasn't prepared to see that. Or that. Which is. Which is fine. That's often what I say when I watch Summer House. Wasn't prepared to see that.
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Ronnie
And it's usually Kyle whipping out his wiener to pee some to pee on something.
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Ben
Yeah, it's usually something about that. But the other funny the thing. Can I say God bless. They continued chaotic mess. That is Megan King Edmonds. Because somehow in the midst of all this, I think she like, she emerges from chaos. She's like an evil. She's like Gannon in Zelda. When there's chaos again and arrives. There's footage of Kyle Cook and Megan King Edmonds making out on the street over the weekend.
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Ronnie
Where did they get like a make out? It looks like just like a simple kiss. I can't tell. You know, he's shorter than her and he pulls her in for a little kiss. It's like a little kit. It's not a full make out. But here's the thing. So they were coming from a Page Six nine West party. Which nine West? I love that Megan King's like, you know what? I'm going to go to a nine west party and I'm going to wear Crocs of some kind. Not really sure. Are they Crocs and socks?
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Ben
I just can't believe they'd invite Kyle to a party with west in the name.
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Ronnie
That's true.
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Ben
Although that is probably something a German would say to him. Nine Wests mine.
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Ronnie
So Kyle kisses Megan, but he has to kind of, you know, look up and aim, kind of get up on his toes and then they kiss. It's just like a little kiss. But you know, her shoes. My question is, why didn't she get cuter shoes? Because I think she's in black Crocs with socks. I'm very confused about this whole thing.
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Ben
Black Crocs with socks. I love that song.
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Ronnie
Black Crocs and socks. But you know, with a comment that was. I love that. All the other comments are like her, you know, fuck Amanda, kill West or whatever. But on a Kyle story, all the comments are like, oh my God, Kyle's with somebody age appropriate.
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Ben
I know.
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Ronnie
Okay, someone check on Kyle.
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Ben
You know, I'm looking at her shoes and like, I don't know if those are Crocs. They sort of. Are they Birkenstocks maybe? She's sort of dressed hipster esque. They almost look like Doc Martens from afar, but then you see her heel come up and out of them. Someone from the comments will surely have an insight into what.
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Ronnie
Black ankle socks.
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Ben
Yeah. I just love that Megan King Edmonds like ping pongs around our pop culture like Joe Biden's nephew. Now Kyle Cook. I mean, it's a very exciting time for her.
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Ronnie
Casey says not all the comments. No, all the comments were like, I wouldn't even wish her on Kyle.
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Ben
Someone says she's a name dropper slash chaser. You know, you gotta respect. I mean, she got. She got the president to come to her wedding. Like, that's.
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Ronnie
Well, because she was marrying one of his family members, right?
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Ben
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you're gonna like, you know, chase clout, I mean, that's pretty big. That's huge. But either way, I just love the fact that she's somehow like tangentially now a side character in this mess, you know?
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Ronnie
Yeah. Well, you know, there she is. Meghan King and Kyle. So I wish those kids all the luck. So let's see what else here is going on. Okay, so I loved this. The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, Rula's husband. So anybody who's watching Rhode island, which I hope is all of you, because we've been given something and we should all appreciate it. So Rula's husband blatantly cheating on her on the show. You know, there's a lot of drama on the show because someone saw an Instagram picture that I think he posted or she posted. One of them posted where? The Instagram. I mean, the mistress is sitting on his lap and they're like, kissing. And so she showed the friends. Then the big drama is, oh, my God, now you're trying to get me fired for showing people the Instagram post. And you're calling my work and trying to get me fired and this and that. So that episode aired last week. Then right after that, the mistress goes on Instagram and starts posing pictures of herself at Rula's house while Rula was filming a girls trip.
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Ben
Wow.
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Ronnie
And she's like in a little miniskirt, like, and it's Rula's banister out, I think, by the pool. And you see the neighbor's house behind it, like, very obviously her house. Trying to get caught on purpose and basically, like, live off the fame, you know. She was like, hey, I'm banging this melted hellboy. I deserve some money. Why not get some influencer, whatever. So she went out there and tried to do that, and then Brian sued her. Because Brian apparently gets an NDA with people he's banging on the side. I mean, have you ever heard of a non famous person doing that?
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Ben
I've never heard of a non famous person doing that. Although I did have, like, I did meet someone once who like, made someone sign like a little contract on a piece of paper before they had sex.
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Ronnie
But
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Ben
it was just kind of like, you won't tell anyone. It was like an NDA, but it was, like, not official. It was like, please don't tell anyone I was served.
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Ronnie
I've been served. I mean, I'm gay, so I've been served a dam before. I. Don't ask my name.
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Ben
Don't ask my name. Okay.
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Ronnie
Yeah, that's very, like, gay sex. Gay sex.
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Ben
My friend. My friend was 18 and the girl was 17. And so he was afraid of it being illegal, so he wanted. He basically wrote, like, a crude contract. Be like, you won't sue me.
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Ronnie
Wow. Yeah. Some people are saying I've been to parties and have to sign NDAs. Yeah. For parties. But, like, to fuck somebody, that's crazy.
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Ben
To, like, to have sex with, like, the number, you know, like the mid. Like, whatever number he is, whatever. Podiatrist of Rhode Island. You're going to sign up NDA?
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Ronnie
Yeah. Listen, one thing you're not going to talk about is me. Another thing you're not going to talk about. Feet. All right, you sign this.
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Ben
That is the funniest thing. Wait, so when did she post this picture with the banister? Was this, like, over the weekend, did you say?
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Ronnie
It was after Rhode island aired, so, yeah, it was, like, during the week last week.
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Ben
Wow.
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Ronnie
At some point. And then he sued her right away. That's crazy.
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Ben
That's crazy.
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Ronnie
I mean, I can see asking people to sign NDAs like salt and straw, you know, or like McDonald's or, you know, places, like, really let my addictions come out. And I'm like, give me all of it. Keep your mouth shut. Don't tell anybody this, especially my old Weight Watchers lady Janelle. She'll kill me.
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Ben
Yeah, that's. That's wild. This will definitely come up in the reunion for sure. I mean, that. And like you said, the fact that. That he had an NDA was, like, a real commitment to the affair. It's not just like, oh, it was a fling or, oh, God. I. I was looking. I wanted to stop, but I didn't know how to stop. And yada, yada, yada. It was literally like, this is planned out and it's meant to be kept secret. And we're gonna have, like, two. I'm gonna have two lives if I can.
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Ronnie
Yeah. So that guy's a pig. Oh, gosh. Who else? Oh, a big thing that happened. Well, what do you want to talk about?
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Ben
We gotta talk. The big thing that you were just about to get to is, like, that's really what we Gotta get to.
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Ronnie
Because don't you want to talk about who died first? Because I didn't even let. To get. Let you get to say it.
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Ben
Okay, fine. I was really shocked about this. I was actually really sad. And it actually appeared in my dream last night. But, like, I was shocked to see. And the very first person I thought of, of course, was Denise Richards. I was very shocked to see that Patrick Muldoon passed away yesterday. Yesterday morning from a heart attack. That was. I was shocked. And I couldn't believe that. First thing I thought was Denise. But I really did think about that because she's had a really tough go of it recently. And to know that, like, one of her besties just passed away made me, like, really. I had, like, a parasocial heartbreak moment for her. And I was really sad about that. And he's also so young, so very sad for his family. But that was the. That was the rip that. That I witnessed yesterday. I don't know if there was another one that you'd seen, but that was. That's just sweet.
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Ronnie
Babes. Yeah. That is so sad. You know, And I already mourned him years ago because I watched Days of Our Lives when I was really young. I would skip school and go to my. My sithi's house and play cards because I wouldn't go to PE or lunch. So I would walk to. Obviously didn't go to PE and went to my siti's house. My grandma and I would play cards. Basra for any Arabs out there, Basra. With my grandma and my great aunts. And we would watch Another World and Days of our Lives. And he was. On Days of Our Lives, he played Lisa Rinna's brother Austin. And when I tell you that man was fine. I've never seen a hotter man in my life. And then that's why I was so excited about Lisa Rinna on Beverly Hills and Eileen on Beverly Hills because she was amazing. On Days of Our Lives, she played quintuplets. Anyway, it's not about Eileen. And he was so hot. And then he was recast. Like, he left the show and he was recast. And I'm sorry that just. I mourned. I like, mourned. That was the first person I didn't know that I mourned. Austin.
- [28:14]
Ben
Wow. Yeah, well, it's really. Here I am again, so. RIP RIP. But now we have to move on to more frivolous news, more funny news, more, some might say, karmic news, which, of course, is that Lisa Hoxtein and Jody. Well, because she. Maybe if she sent us the photo that she kept in prison on her phone, she wouldn't have experienced prison herself.
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Ronnie
That's terrible.
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Ben
Whatever. It's not terrible. This is. This is actually like. Like, it was just a day, and it's a night in jail for her. Whatever. And they put a tracking device on Lenny's thing, but whatever. Lisa and Jody went to jail for this tracking device on Lenny's car. And Jody went to jail first, and he took a mug shot which not looked not unlike the photo that they were all looking at on the last season of Miami. And then Lisa. Lisa had her mug shot. And I feel we all know that Lisa. The reason why Lisa was arrested after Jody was that she spent two or three days working on her mugshot photo, right? Which was sort of like a. It was like a sweet.
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Ronnie
She looks pretty good.
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Ben
Yeah, like a sweet duck. It was like, you know, I mean,
- [29:31]
Ronnie
she knew it was coming, so I was hoping that she would, like, come in in full housewives, glam and like, a crazy dress, you know, with her boobs out and, you know, really do it right. But I think maybe her lawyer was like, no, you should probably wear a sweater. You know, wear something that nobody even knows that you own something, like a sweater, you know, so she just wore, like, a little humble sweater and, you know, came into it that way. I'm gonna share the screen so people can see her picture. Jody, on the other hand, looks like he didn't know this was coming, and he snorted, you know, Thunder Mountain or whatever before he went in there. Jody looks like.
- [30:07]
Ben
Well, that's a different photo of Lisa that I'm seeing. That's actually. So does she have two mug shots? Because the mug shot I've seen, she's sort of looking like her face looks a little bit different.
- [30:17]
Ronnie
Oh, this is the one that's on the. I mean, this is from one of the best photographers in town. It's Credit Miami Dade county and Miami Dade Corrections and Rehabilitation.
- [30:27]
Ben
Oh, maybe. You know what it is? It is the photo. It's just that when it was small, it looked a little different. So many layers to a Lisa Hoxting photo.
- [30:34]
Ronnie
Literal.
- [30:34]
Ben
Literal layers. Jody's kind of giving founding father out of the powdered wig a little bit, right?
- [30:42]
Ronnie
He is giving the guy who murdered Garfields, because I just watched that miniseries.
- [30:49]
Ben
He is. Yeah, they are. Yeah. They. They went. So basically arrested, but Lisa posted bail. She was out right away. And Alexia and Adriana went to. To the courthouse to support her. And then Lisa came out of Jail. And they gave her the biggest hugs. It was so funny because everyone. Everyone was like, she didn't just serve 12 years in jail. It was like three hours. But they. I think they just were so happy. They're like, thank you. You gave us just what we needed to make sure this we come back. Please, please, Bravo, because, by the way, as everyone has been noting, this is the biggest failure on Bravo. Bravo's part. The fact that cameras were not rolling. This is the true karma. That's what you get, Bravo. You could have had your cameras rolling. You could have had the arrest. This could have happened during the season. Now, as opposed to something that rolls at the top of the season. You already missed the Todd divorce, by the way, and now you miss this. This was a total 100% failure on Bravo's part because at the end of the day, the only thing that matters about this case is how it relates to Bravo. So shame on you, Bravo, for missing it.
- [31:56]
Ronnie
Well, Alexia came, and Adriana came, you know, because those housewives are showing up like, hello, hello, hello. It was really like a butcher. Alexia. Alexia. News Network moment. Because she was there. She's like, well, you know, I'd like to say that, you know, this isn't Peter's fault because, you know, Peter had no idea what was going on. But, yeah, they showed up and people aren't remembering. I didn't see a lot of remembrance of the storyline, and I myself had to Google it because I remember them accusing her of doing something with a listening device or there was a listening device in her car on the Housewives. Do you remember? It was the thing when she was divorcing Lenny and she was like, oh, Lenny. And they were like, well, she put a tracking device. And I remember that, but I didn't remember it very clearly. And I had to learn how to use search terms to find it in 2023. And I found it. And yeah, she was. The ladies on the show were like, yeah, she planted a fucking listening device in Lenny's car. So Lenny's been after her now for three years trying to get her for this listening device, and he finally did it justice. Moves slowly, okay? It moves very, very slowly.
- [33:03]
Ben
Very, very slowly. Almost as slowly as Lisa driving her maid's Honda Civic. Like, how do I do this?
- [33:11]
Ronnie
Yeah. Now she could serve, I think, five years for this, which is crazy.
- [33:18]
Ben
That would be wild. Also, like, Lenny is crazy. This is the mother of his children, and he's pushing this like, what the is wrong with you? Okay, this is so stupid. It's Petty and like, I just think. I think it's so.
- [33:33]
Ronnie
Come in here.
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Ben
Here comes one right now.
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Ronnie
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- [34:06]
Ben
It's really, really good. This mattress is killing it. You know, it was a top rated hybrid mattress. Cnet.com even said it really lives up to the hype. It's got a breathable cover with a sustainable blend of cotton and bacteria resistant merino wool. It's just so incredibly comfortable.
- [34:22]
Ronnie
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Ben
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Ronnie
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Ben
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- [35:53]
Ronnie
Hannah's leaving. Hannah's leaving.
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Ben
Oh, my God. Celebrity cameo.
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Ronnie
Hi.
- [35:58]
Ben
Hi, honey. Everyone, look. It's Hannah from below deck.
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Hannah from Below Deck
Hello. Hello.
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Ben
Hi. How are you? How was your cruise?
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Hannah from Below Deck
Sorry, I'm just looking at my eyebrows. I just have my eyebrows done.
- [36:11]
Ronnie
That's what I do the whole time. I'm still looking at the Stigmata in the middle of my forehead. Like, what the hell did that Botox lady do to me?
- [36:18]
Hannah from Below Deck
No, I had the microblade.
- [36:20]
Ronnie
Oh, let me look. They look nice.
- [36:21]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah.
- [36:22]
Ronnie
Yeah. They didn't give you the Britney huge thing across your whole face.
- [36:27]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah.
- [36:27]
Ronnie
Oh, so you got a micro blade. Yeah, they look nice.
- [36:29]
Hannah from Below Deck
How are you, Ben?
- [36:31]
Ben
I'm great, thanks. How are you doing? You having a fun time here in la?
- [36:36]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yes. Yeah, yeah, it's been fun. I went out last night with like some of the Valley people.
- [36:44]
Ben
How was that? I saw it on your story. It looked like you went through to drag something or another. And I saw Jesse Lolly there.
- [36:50]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yes. Lacey's so sweet. I like her.
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Ad Host
Really?
- [36:54]
Ben
Oh, yeah.
- [36:55]
Hannah from Below Deck
She's really nice. And then, yeah, Jesse and I chatted. Having five year old girls, we raise them differently.
- [37:04]
Ronnie
This is life, just so you know.
- [37:06]
Hannah from Below Deck
Oh, that's okay.
- [37:07]
Ronnie
No, I know.
- [37:08]
Hannah from Below Deck
It's not surprising that a male American and a female Australian would raise their kids differently.
- [37:14]
Ben
I know.
- [37:14]
Ronnie
Just didn't want you to say something that you're like, wait a minute, honey, that was live.
- [37:18]
Ben
I thought I was just chatting with Ben. We're just chatting. We're just chatting with a few hundred people watching. Tell us. Tell us about your cruise in San Diego on Saturday. Were there any highlights for you?
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Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so much fun. So much fun. So Ronnie's gonna come do another two with me, which is amazing because he's such a good host. So it's nice to like have somebody who semi knows what they're doing.
- [37:45]
Ben
Yes.
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Ronnie
And then.
- [37:47]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah, it was just fun.
- [37:48]
Ronnie
The highest compliment.
- [37:50]
Hannah from Below Deck
The highest compliment coming from me.
- [37:56]
Ben
I'm glad everyone behaved themselves and no one had to be thrown overboard or thrown in the brigade.
- [38:01]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah, no, that would have been me. And it would have been Ronnie or Zach doing it to me because I made them drive there and back in a day so that I could get to drag brunch on time. I feel like when I leave this house, Ronnie's gonna block me and I'm never gonna hear from him again.
- [38:16]
Ronnie
Lucky you know the address.
- [38:18]
Hannah from Below Deck
That's true. And the code.
- [38:20]
Ronnie
I'll just block you till I move.
- [38:24]
Ben
You guys look like you guys did look like you had a very fun road trip. I mean, a road trip down to San Diego is like a classic SoCal kind of experience to have.
- [38:32]
Ronnie
And also being with Sheen and Brock because they're like, oh, my God, we lived in San Diego. And so like, we know this restaurant and that restaurant, when we're invested in that restaurant. Right there. And like, that's our club that we would go to.
- [38:43]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah. Well, we weren't in the car with them. And honestly, that was enough.
- [38:48]
Ronnie
We were on the boat. So everywhere we passed on the boat, they would be like, oh, yeah, we know that place. We go there. And then Brock was like, that's the American military. That's where they are. They do military. And then he would mansplain military things to us.
- [39:02]
Hannah from Below Deck
I actually, my favorite guest the whole nice night was Summer Moon. Yeah. Well, I feel like as well that it's very hard, like, even if you have a kid, like a few years difference, but because my daughter is literally like six months older than her, I'm like all over exactly what they're into. So we were like writing menus together. We went for a walk. So she was really cute. I like her.
- [39:29]
Ben
That's awesome. Now, our. I have a question. Do you have any thoughts on any of the scandals happening on Bravo right now? We were just talking about, like, west and Amanda Hochstein being arrested. Have you been following any of that or.
- [39:41]
Ronnie
No.
- [39:42]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah, so I'm. I don't know why. I think I'm like, burnt out from the Western Amanda thing. I just don't really care that much. And like. Yeah.
- [39:50]
Ronnie
Okay, we'll do a speed round with you. Okay. You can give your opinion really fast.
- [39:54]
Hannah from Below Deck
Okay.
- [39:55]
Ronnie
Lisa Hoxtein from Real Housewives of Miami being arrested for putting a listening device in Lenny's car.
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Hannah from Below Deck
I love it. I love her. She's amazing. Do more.
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Ben
Do more. Listen to everything.
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Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah.
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Ronnie
Of Rhode Island. The husband sicked a. He's suing for posting on Instagram.
- [40:16]
Hannah from Below Deck
Yeah. Don't have a mistress if you don't want to get in trouble. It's very.
- [40:21]
Ben
There you go.
- [40:21]
Hannah from Below Deck
Leave the mistress alone. She did nothing wrong.
- [40:24]
Ronnie
Kyle Cook making out with Megan King Edmonds.
- [40:28]
Hannah from Below Deck
Maybe go home and try and get custody of your kids before sticking your tongue down a Bravo Liberty's throat.
- [40:33]
Ben
Oh, snap.
- [40:35]
Ronnie
Hannah.
- [40:36]
Ben
Slow honey eyes. Honey always.
- [40:39]
Ronnie
Drew Sedora loses custody to ex Ralph Pittman, ordered to leave home.
- [40:44]
Hannah from Below Deck
That's depressing because if you lose custody to him, like, that's really not a good sign. I would go and work on yourself.
- [40:50]
Ronnie
Kathy Hilton's injured house guest demanding $55,000 per year because she fell at her house.
- [40:58]
Hannah from Below Deck
I guess you gotta try. Hey, I'd be like, kathy Hilton sneezed on me. Please can I have a million dollars?
- [41:06]
Ronnie
Okay. And the last one, because we actually have to talk about these later. Okay. The Valley star Brittany Cartwright reacts to ex Jax Taylor taking their son to Hooters for his fifth birthday.
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Hannah from Below Deck
Well, I think you can't, like, fight that. You. He found, like, didn't they meet at Hooters?
- [41:22]
Ben
Yeah, that's.
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Hannah from Below Deck
That's DNA, so you can't, like. If she fought that, then she'd be fighting the tits that fed her.
- [41:32]
Ben
Don't. Tight. Don't. Don't fight the title.
- [41:37]
Ronnie
Love you. Bye. You get there safe.
- [41:43]
Hannah from Below Deck
I will, darling.
- [41:44]
Ronnie
Okay. Bye. I'll talk to you soon.
- [41:46]
Ben
So funny. I love a drive by honey eyes.
- [41:51]
Ronnie
Yeah, she's just here to pick up her stuff and go on to the next place. Okay, so where were we here? Okay, so we're still on the Lisa Hochstein thing. So.
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Ben
Lany, by the way, the. The irony of Lisa Hochstein going to jail for listening when that's the only thing her cast members say she doesn't do. They're like, you don't listen about yourself.
- [42:11]
Ronnie
Yeah, that's the thing. Maybe. And you know what? That's kind of how they got caught, too, because they couldn't shut the fuck up. So they wrapped this listening device and they put it, like, under the floorboard or something, and then it records, but it doesn't necessarily transmit it. It records it onto the thing in the device. And so they went through device, and they're like, does it work? And she's like, testing, testing, test, you know, whatever. They caught them talking into the device, or she said something like, secure, the bag is secure, or something like that. So she actually did get in trouble. She was trying to listen, but she couldn't shut up. And that's what ended up getting in trouble.
- [42:48]
Ben
They are so stupid for doing that. I mean, Lenny is a pig, and he's awful, but what the are you doing putting a listening device in, especially with someone like that? I mean, I guess in her mind, she would say, I felt defenseless. He was locking me down in all the places because, you know, he is vindictive. And he probably did that thing where he, like, consulted with all the lawyers in Miami, so that way had no lawyers, whatever. She probably did something like that. So I. I understand. It's like if you're watching this in a movie, you'd be like, yeah, this is how you get him. You get the evidence. Or this. If a soap opera, Nighttime soap, you know, if it's revenge, it all makes sense. But in real life, you really can't do this. And I can't believe that they did that they planted the listening device and that they talked into the Listening device, which they may have forgot was listening.
- [43:31]
Ronnie
Yeah.
- [43:32]
Ben
I wonder how Lenny found it, though. That's another thing.
- [43:34]
Ronnie
He said he just saw it in his car. He said he just noticed it in his car after she borrowed it. Because she came to, she was like, I need the car for the kids. Because remember this is when he was making her drive, like, the shitty little car or whatever. Like he was making her get rid of his cars. And so she's like, well, if you want me to take the kids to here and here, I need to borrow the car. So. And I just remember this from them talking about it on the show. So she went to borrow his car, put a listening device in there, and then just left it there, I guess, thinking she'd ask him to borrow it again later. And he has some conversations about plastic surgery, a property, you know, stuff like that. And then noticed it, I mean, God knows. When an earlobe fell off, I don't know. And then noticed it. And then has been trying to get her in jail ever since then. Dummy.
- [44:18]
Ben
It is literally like a TV show.
- [44:22]
Ronnie
Yeah. And then there was. Got canceled.
- [44:24]
Ben
It's crazy. Yeah.
- [44:25]
Ronnie
And then there's another story this week that he sold the house that he was supposedly building for her to live in with the kids this week. So, yikes.
- [44:36]
Ben
Which was still always crazy. I can't believe that that was part of their deal. Like, okay, you have to build a house for me.
- [44:45]
Ronnie
These comments are so funny. Someone said Miriam said he bought the device on Amazon, lol. And then someone said, that's a voice recorder you use when you're ghost hunting. It's like a big, huge.
- [45:02]
Ben
Oh, no.
- [45:03]
Ronnie
I mean, I don't know. But yeah, yikes. Lisa Smala.
- [45:08]
Ben
Yeah.
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Ronnie
But that was closer to the divorce day, too. So I kind of forgive her. First of all, it's against Lenny. So I say, anything you do against Lenny, I'm not gonna get mad at you. Fuck that guy.
- [45:18]
Ben
Exactly.
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Ronnie
And it was closer to when she just got dumped and stuff like that. So you do crazy things when you're just getting dumped. It takes a while to calm down.
- [45:28]
Ben
For me, I. I wonder, do we think that he's gonna drop the charges now, or is he. Or do you to be like, okay, I embarrassed her. I made her go to jail. We can move on. I'm not gonna put the mother of my children in jail. Or I think. Or do you think that he's gonna say, well, because she was listening in on me, and that's illegal. That compromised all of our stances when making this divorce agreement. So therefore, everything is null and void. Because I was not able to. I was in an unfair position for negotiating. I mean, I don't know if that is a legal thing, but, like, I. I would not be surprised if he tries to pull something like that. I feel like something. If he has a chance to undo anything and get back any money that he gave her, I think he will take it. That's why I think it's so stupid of her. That's why I think, like, don't give him any excuse to be able to just to destroy you. And I guess she was probably feeling desperate. And like you said, if it's against Lenny, I will always support it. But don't move.
- [46:23]
Ronnie
Still a dumb move. Yeah. I don't. I don't think he'll drop the charges. I think he'd be more than happy for her to go to jail. He can just tell the kids forever. Your mom's a, you know, jailbird and, you know, a criminal. And that's why I don't give her anything. And he'll just move whatever, you know, bimbo he meets at his bimbo Halloween party in.
- [46:42]
Ben
Yeah.
- [46:42]
Ronnie
Be done with it.
- [46:44]
Ben
Do you think that. What do you think about Lisa and Jody? Like, do you think that Jody will be like, okay, now I've gone to jail for you. This is. This is dunzo. I guess they already were done, so. But were they really done? So? I don't know. I think nobody knows.
- [47:02]
Ronnie
But I'm sure we'll be hearing more about that in the near future. This Real Housewives of Atlanta. Drew Sidora losing custody to Ralph Pittman, ordering ordered to leave home. We've talked about that a little over the past couple of weeks. This is crazy. This is so sad. She. She says that she cannot afford to leave her marital home. And when asked how much she's making, she says she's making, like, 12 grand a month. I'm trying to find it in this article. I read it earlier.
- [47:30]
Ben
Yeah, she said that it was somewhere that she said she's making about 12 grand a month, which is also wild.
- [47:37]
Ronnie
Well, this also, you know, comes back to kind of the reality reckoning thing that Bethany was doing. Because the only part of that I agreed with was the pay for these reality stars is not great. And then they don't get royalties or anything. So they get paid one time, and then it's used forever and ever and ever. And, you know, maybe it took Drew to make me see, like, if drew's only making 12 grand a month and she's been on the Real Housewives of Atlanta for this long. That's crazy.
- [48:06]
Ben
Yeah, that's crazy because we know that they're, they're. Their whole payment thing is that the more you're on Bravo, the more money you get. So when you start off, you don't actually earn that much, but you're. It's like an incentive program. But Drew has actually been on now for like five years. She should be making more money. But also she's in these movies. I know these are low budget movies, but she, she should still be pulling in more than 12, 000amonth from them, honestly.
- [48:33]
Ronnie
Yeah, you would think so. Okay, Do I want to allow downloads from a site that I'm reading? No, I don't.
- [48:42]
Ben
No.
- [48:43]
Ronnie
Decider. No, I don't want to. And I don't want notifications from you either.
- [48:47]
Ben
But you know what, though? On, on the topic of this, on the topic of like how much money people pull in or something sort of adjacent to this, it came out just, just before I forgot to put it in the, in the document and I'll put it the link in right now. Lisa Rinna, she told, she basically said that, like, if you want me to come back to the Real Housewives, it needs to be for at least $5 million, which by the way, is never gonna happen. I don't think I would ever pay $5 million. No, but she's like. She basically was like, yeah, she, she told. She talked to the LA Times and she was like, you know what? I might do 5 million, but Harry wants more. If Harry's gonna be in it, it would have to be 10 million because I don't think that Harry was very happy with the show. So basically she's like, I'm not coming back.
- [49:36]
Ronnie
I also don't know that they would be so excited to have her back. I mean, I know it's not the most exciting season, but it started tanking when she was there. She was part of the reason it started tanking. It's like she was part of that team. So I don't know how excited they'd be to have her back. They did have her on Traders, which of course is a trial ground to let you back on Housewives. I guess it's kind of proving to be that. But I don't know. I don't think anybody would be flipping over to have Lisa Rinna back. You were part of the problem, lady.
- [50:06]
Ben
Yeah, I mean, the thing is this also is that Beverly Hills is still the highest rated of the housewives. So they don't need to. They don't need to spend $5 million to help it out. So, I mean, I would love to have her back, but I don't think Bravo's gonna spend 5 million. Especially when you got Drew Sedora claiming to be only getting $12,000 a month from. You know, we have to imagine the Bravo fees are in there. I don't understand, though, because as we said today, too, Drew does have a history of lying, but I guess I don't think she would lie to the courts.
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Ronnie
Well, I think that Lisa Rinna, if she got 5 million for five years or something, that would make more sense and maybe she'll settle for something like that. But I don't know. When during that thing this weekend, I asked Sheena, I was like, one of the things in your book, which I was really offended by was how dare you come for my queen Lisa Vanderpump? You know, because I knew that would piss her off. And she's like, oh, really? Because a lot of the things in my book Lisa Rinna said too. And I was like, yeah, but Lisa Rinna, I don't know, is like the paragon of virtue that we want to pretend. Of course, like, you're going to get. Of course you're going to get Lisa Rinna to shit talk Lisa Vanderpump, too. But that was the answer. I was like, how dare you like Lisa Rinna being brought up in a court of law?
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Ben
Something I would like to talk about
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Ronnie
was not a court of law. Sorry, go ahead.
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Ben
Something I like to. I don't think we talked about this on the show or if we did, it was very brief. And since we're sort of like coming towards the end of the. The podcast episode before we get to bringing people up here, this is not. This is not like news and gossip, but it's more just like casting news on the front of Bravo, which I always love talking about. Bravo announced last week the current cast for Real Housewives of Potomac. And I don't think. We didn't discuss this, did we? That basically the people who are coming back are Karen, Giselle, Ashley, Wendy, Stacy and Tia, which means Kieran is out and angel is out and Robin is coming back as a friend of. So the thing that is, I guess I'm not surprised at all that that Kiera got fired. I was a little surprised, oddly enough, that angel got fired because I thought that. That maybe angel might. Was such a foil. Not a foil, but like she was such a punching bag for Giselle that Like, maybe they might keep her around just for that. But I was surprised that Monique was not asked back as a friend of and I wonder why Bravo has been doing this. It's been a few times now that they brought back an alum as a friend of and only kept them on for one season. They did that with Taylor Armstrong. They did that with Alexis Bellino. They did that with Gretchen Rossi. Monique, you could make an argument that those three women on Beverly Hills had. Were not. Like, they. Maybe they shouldn't have been kept around. I personally think. I think Alexis Bellino was. Was like, she's awful. But I think she was a good villain on the show, and I think she should have had another season as a friend of and I was surprised that Taylor Armstrong didn't get another season because I thought she was perfectly fine, and I'm really surprised that Monique did. I call her Monique Coleman. I meant Monique Samuels. Sometimes I call her Monique Coleman because I don't know. But Monique Samuels. I'm surprised she did not get the callback. What did you think about this?
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Ronnie
I think if you're gonna come back on the show, and especially when you left under such explosive circumstances, you need to come back and add something to come back and just be like, I'm nice now. That's not really fun. And they're like, I'm not gonna pay you for this. You know, it needs to be more. And I get that she wanted to improve her reputation and stuff, but, yeah, I don't think she brought enough. I mean, Alexis did. Gretchen tried, but Gret brought a bunch of mess that didn't even make sense. And she was lying the whole time too. I think they're, like, dipping their toes, you know, into it. Like, should we bring people back? Is that the answer? And the answer is, like, 90% usually no. Which is kind of my answer too. It's like, if someone was let go because the show wasn't working, then that's why they were let go. If the show's still not working, you don't bring back the person that helped the show not work. It's never made sense to me. I think Real Housewives of Orange county does it in their own way, where they're like, let's bring one person for Tampa, Tamara to beat up for a year or, you know, Shannon or whoever. And then so they cast these people. So on Orange county, it seems like they're giving Tamara something to play with, you know, which I approve of. But, yeah, Monique, I think, needed to bring a lot more if she wanted to keep.
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Ben
I don't know. I think that Monique, do we need Robin back?
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Ronnie
That's not somebody we need back.
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Ben
So that's the thing. Like, why do we have Robin? And maybe Giselle made a demand, but I would have preferred Monique. I think Monique was really good. As a friend of. I thought she came back. She was. I thought she was great. Even as being the nice one, she was great. But she still has some saltiness to her and it comes out. And I really liked it a lot and I feel like the audience really liked it. So, like, the audience was not happy with Alexis or Gretchen, obviously. So I get why they went. But this is a weird one. I think I'm. I'm really surprised that Bravo did not bring Monique back. I know what you're saying, that if you're gonna come back, you got to bring something. And I also, by the way, think that largely it's a little dangerous when Bravo goes backwards. I think this is something that just TV networks in general, when they start doing stunt casting like that, it's bad because you're not cultivating new talent. But I thought Monique was really good. I thought there was a chance she might actually get a full on champagne flute.
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Ronnie
Yeah, I don't. I don't really think she did anything to earn it. The only time she start, the only thing she really did that was controversial was say that Angel's husband should be treating her better. And then the other thing was the Chris stuff, like, oh, my God, was this girl calling Chris or dating Chris or whatever. And then she kind of got upset about that in the reunion. And then, sorry, I was allergic to myself, by the way, and then immediately came out and said, no, what I heard was completely wrong and I forgive Chris.
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Ben
If anything, the fact that she can't really or is unwilling to really talk extensively about Chris, that she clearly does not want to engage with that. That's probably why they couldn't have her come back. They're like, okay, we could do it for one season, but if you're still not going to, even as a friend of be able to talk about this whole thing in your life, we're not going to work with that.
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Ronnie
Yeah, but I did. I definitely didn't feel like, oh, God, I hope Monique doesn't come back. Like, I enjoy Monique, so. And also I give her the grace of, like, having that first year where not much happens, and then she would get messier once she knows everybody a little bit better.
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Ben
So I don't know.
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Ronnie
But, you know, I'm not. I'm not beat up about it either. Maybe they were just like, listen, we're not going to bring back two people who didn't add anything at the same time. Like, we can't have boring ass Robin slogging along and have Monique not bringing anything.
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Ben
But by the way, I also want to say in Robin's defense, I used to really love Robin and then she fell into this really boring rut. And I want to say in defense of Robin that, that when she was on the Traders, I thought she was actually pretty good. She didn't last long. She was only on for like three or four weeks. But in those three or four weeks, she kind of was central in the show. She was making big accusations. She was speaking at that round table. I kind of liked Robin on the Traders. And so I think my heart is a little bit more open to Robin than I would have expected it to be.
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Ronnie
Yeah, well, who knows? Not me, that's for sure. I guess we're going to find out when that show comes back. But now we are going to transition into the viewer talk back section of this. So if you're watching on video and you want to come on camera, now's your time. If you're not watching on video and you're audio only, this is the end. And we'll talk to you next time. Thanks for being here. We'll see you in a couple weeks. Bye.
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