Co-host (2:52)

I communicate with people that have passed and past loved ones, friends and family. Pets come through, too. And I once had an old Dorito bag come through me. Yeah, really, anything that's been. That's been long gone.

Ben (3:04)

It's hard to talk to an alive dog. Try to talk to a dead dog. I mean, that's a talent.

Co-host (3:10)

Hold on, I'm getting something. There's a dog that says woof. Do you know of any dogs? Well, Dara has a dog. Must be her dog. Is it the dog dead? It's alive. Okay, well, sometimes a live dog just call me up in the brain and just tell me, woof. So that's a free one for you.

Ben (3:28)

I have no control of who comes through or for how long. Fred Astaire, he's come through. You know, you just never know. Caesar, he came. Little Caesar, the pizza One pizza guy.

Co-host (3:39)

Wait a second.

Ben (3:40)

Oh, he was dead. Heart attack. It's too much pizza.

Co-host (3:43)

Did I say Caesar? I meant Sid Caesar. Very funny man. He says, hey, yo. Oh, sorry, that was Ed McMahon. It's really difficult. A lot of these celebrities.

Ben (3:53)

I just ask that you keep an open mind because I'll probably be wrong a lot, but who knows? Who knows? If I'm wrong, We'll just say it's another dead person that happens to be in the neighborhood. Okay? So she says, okay, so I'm getting a really strong female energy coming through. Anybody? Any female. Any female takers? Okay, she's saying, I'm here. I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. Okay, any. Anybody who knows really annoying females who are constantly waving their arm saying, I'm here. Anybody?

Co-host (4:21)

Did.

Ben (4:21)

Anybody did.

Co-host (4:22)

Was anyone planning to meet a ghost for dinner? And they arrived early. The ghost arrived early. They are at the restaurant. She's saying, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. Did any of you guys have plans with the ghosts?

Ben (4:34)

Okay, okay. Whoever she is, she's sitting right in the middle of you guys, okay? But there's no space between them. They're sitting, like, touching each other. And I'. Like, well, is she on their lap? Like, make some room.

Co-host (4:45)

Okay, this lady says, move over, please. Excuse me, Please move over. It's called personal space. I know. Does this. Does this sound familiar to you guys?

Ben (4:53)

Okay, I'm gonna really go out on a limb here. She's calling, she's saying, baby boy. Okay, baby boy, you've been on my mind. Fancy

Co-host (5:04)

okay, now she just said in a New York minute.

Ben (5:07)

Woo.

Co-host (5:07)

Woo.

Ben (5:08)

Wow, Don Henley's really sticking. Okay, she. She. She's acknowled. Necklace. Anybody have a necklace? Okay, it has an emblem on it, something like that. Okay? Do you understand necklace? Lady with the necklace who's sitting on your lap.

Co-host (5:23)

Okay, she. I'm seeing. I'm seeing a card, and it has little holes in it. It's a Subway punch card. Does anyone have a Subway punch card loyalty program? She says, don't forget you need to punch the 10th one for the free sandwich. So that was a nice. That was a nice tip from whoever was coming through there.

Ben (5:41)

There is a ghost sitting on your lap making out with you while Sierra's right next to you. So wait a minute.

Co-host (5:48)

Just.

Ben (5:49)

Ghost trying to get on your show. Sorry. Yeah. Anybody get it? Necklace, middle. And he's like, that's her grandmother. She goes, oh, okay, your grandma. Finally. Good, we got something. Also, she's there with another female. I have two. There's two. Did you have two grandmas, two females? How many necklaces did you have in your family? A lot of necklaces.

Co-host (6:10)

Okay. She just says, okay, you may not have heard this from any other psychic, but let me be the first medium to tell you that. That she says, you need to know that I'm okay. Which, by the way, this is what every single psychic starts their session with. It makes people cry immediately, like, okay, I am hearing okay, I've. I've just heard from President Polk, and he says he's okay. He's okay. Okay.

Ben (6:36)

You know, if you really want me to believe this, I need to hear like, it's President Polk. He just wanted to say, I've always hated that last fucking name. And if you don't like your name, you should change it because you only live once.

Co-host (6:50)

Angela Lansbury says, she's okay. She's okay. She's just been cast in the Heavens version of Sweeney Todd again. She's re. She's re. Revamping her old role, and she's okay.

Ben (7:04)

Just came through and said, my neighbor did it. Okay, well, good job. Like, give me something specific I don't want. I'm okay. Like, if my relative comes through, I want them to be like, this is where I hid the money, you know? Or, I don't know, that guy has. That guy has an STD or something. Like, give me something I can use. Not just, I'm okay. Who asked you? But that's not. That wasn't my question. Where's the inheritance? You know what. What what is your. Your word code for the crypto wallet? I need something here.

Co-host (7:37)

Okay, I'm getting something else. This woman says, I'm okay. Everything is okay. I'm just gonna go to Whole Foods. Holy shit. Where'd my body go? Oh, my God. I'm dead. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm dead.

Ben (7:49)

I'm dead. I'm dead.

Co-host (7:49)

I didn't realize.

Ben (7:50)

Oh, my God.

Co-host (7:50)

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Does that sound okay?

Ben (7:52)

I'm not okay. Get me out of here. This one. It would be nice if a dead person was like, get me out of this house. I'm st. House. Please get some sage or something, for Christ's sake. How long. How many times do I have to switch the lights on and off before you sage me out of here? God.

Co-host (8:10)

Sage? I never said I like sage.

Ben (8:12)

Okay, but this is where this. I turned from thinking this psychic was totally full of to then where I was like, oh, my God, she's real and I love her. So she says, okay. Now she's saying, I want you to know that I can breathe okay? And so then Mia just starts crying because her mom had a disease where she couldn't breathe, and she was always having a hard time breathing. And then she went into respiratory attacks. And I was like, oh, my God, this is a real one. Oh, shit. And she goes, okay. And she's calling you her beautiful girl. And she says she's proud of you. And she says, I don't know why you took a picture of my hands. And she goes, oh, my God. I did take a picture of her hands because. And then I started crying. I'm such a sucker. I know. It actually was the whole first half of the. The whole first half of the scene. I was like, oh, whatever, dead people. Say something better. Dead person. And I was like, oh, my God. It was really the mom. And I was sitting here dissing the mom, and she was really coming through.

Co-host (9:08)

Yeah, the hands. That was really crazy. And I was. I also was very moved by the scene, mainly because whether or not I believed it, I was like, this is. Mia is someone who is, like, going through it. And, like, I feel like Mia is very young to have lost both of her parents. And I just was like, I knew that she needed this, you know, And I just.

Ben (9:26)

It was very emotional, and I totally believed it. And she did take a picture of her hands and, wow, this is. This is real. So, like, I wanna go see her. And so Mia was saying, do I think I'm on the right track in my life? And am I doing what I'm supposed to be doing? And the mom says, I want you to have a little bit more confidence in yourself. And I know you've been feeling stagnant, and never trust a chef. And I was like, oh, my God.

Co-host (9:56)

Wow.

Ben (9:57)

She's here.

Co-host (9:58)

Wow. She's. She's very specific. So now we go to, like, a dog adoption thing.

Ben (10:07)

She's gonna have a baby girl. I'm so sorry. The mom also says, don't worry. You're gonna have a baby girl. Yeah. Okay, so go ahead.

Co-host (10:13)

So west shows up at this. Every last one for fostering and adopting animals, which is how west got on this show. And so there's. You know, he's basically saying that he. He wants to have a dog, but he can't. He doesn't have enough space. So he's gonna help out. That's what he's gonna do. And so Amanda and Kyle show up, and Amanda and Wes share a very long hug, which I'm sure all the detectives were eyeing and reviewing. And they all are gonna do this.

Ben (10:42)

And this line. I mean, look at this line. Kyle goes, all right. You know, I was just saying we're not getting a third today. Okay. We're not getting a third. I was like, o. Don't worry. You weren't included. About to say they were never planning on having a third Kyle Bre.

Co-host (10:58)

Company. Okay, so they're. They're volunteering and everything. And. And Kyle goes to get a drink, leaving just Weston Amanda alone. And so she's like, how's your week been? He's like, fine. Have you had time to reflect? Lol. It's a fun concept with west, and

Ben (11:18)

it's like nobody had plenty of time to deflect. Sounds close. It's close. It's like I have the scaries. I mean, that's what you're asking? I mean, pretty horribly. It's been pretty bad for me. Well, what upset me most is that you've been such a good friend to me all summer. Like, it bothers me when you see Kyle disrespect me, and then, you know, you've been so supportive, and then to watch you disrespect Sierra in that way, it just, like, puts a weird dynamic in place. You know what I mean? Like, it's really hard for us to have a relationship when you're still upsetting Sierra and making her think that you're in a relationship with her. Who are you in a relationship with, me or Sierra? Buddy, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a Grappens commercial.

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Ben (14:07)

Now west came out in an interview this week. We talked about it on Crappy Hour, but just for anyone who wasn't listening. And by the way, the interview was his own podcast. We found out. I was like, who's that girl? He's doing an interview. Yeah, he has his own podcast. I didn't even know. Did you?

Co-host (14:23)

I must have missed it.

Ben (14:26)

So some blonde girl. They call her Maga Barbie. So if that tells you anything, great. And she's. He's finally opening up, you know, not looking at the camera, just like he never looks in anyone's face. He just, like, looks at the floor and whines. And he did that a lot in this interview and was saying, you know, I just want everyone to know the timeline, like, it did not overlap. Like, things didn't really get serious till February. And then that's when we told her, everybody. Which again, leads the question. Like, if it didn't get serious until February, then it was still going on before February.

Co-host (14:56)

Casual serious. So, yeah, like, what caused it? Like, how did it happen? How did it start? What was the spark?

Ben (15:04)

He's not.

Co-host (15:04)

This dog adoption ceremony.

Ben (15:08)

I don't know, but he. He was. He's insisting that it was not happening during this time. I still don't believe you. I think it was happening during this time, but.

Co-host (15:16)

Well, Amanda is. I don't know. I. I know people are like, ben, you're being so naive. Of course they were during this time. But I don't know. Like, I'm not picking up on that. To me, what I'm seeing are, like, the initial foundations, because I feel like Amanda and Wes haven't had, like, a huge amount of interaction. I feel like they've mainly been in group scenes. And then, like, when he consoled her, that was the first time we saw them having, like, a moment. And then, I don't know. I feel like what I am seeing is, like, them having more personal conversations. It's starting to build. But I don't know. I am. I'm frequently wrong because I guess.

Ben (15:59)

Well, cheating doesn't necessarily only mean either, you know, so who knows? What. Who knows what was going on? But, yeah, I think they were already together in this, but who knows? No, there's no way to know who's right or wrong, you know, so who knows? So she's like. Like, yeah, you know? He says, well, I've been trying to protect every. And another piece of evidence is she doesn't show up the next weekend. She's like, here we go with another Weston Sierra weekend. I'm just staying home. So to me, that was another piece of evidence that she's like this. You just break up with her properly so we can just have our relationship.

Co-host (16:34)

Yeah. Or maybe she was developing feelings and was like, I can't go back out there because I can't but west is saying that, like, you know, I still think that regardless of everything, Amanda brings up a good point, which is like, you went out of your way to clock Kyle for being disrespectful to me, but then you're being disrespectful to Sierra, so that's like, weird. He's like, no, I mean, that's why I'm trying to, like, protect everything for the last month. Like, I'm just trying to protect. You're not trying to protect anything. You are not. We. You just had that girl sit on your lap. There's nothing about that that says you're trying to protect anything. That all. All that said was these were your true intentions the entire time and everything else is fakery. So

Ben (17:14)

this is kind of his real. He can be a little more real around Amanda because he says, yeah, like, I mean, I'm not a idiot, Amanda. Like, I understand why I was disrespectful and hurtful, but, like, at the same time, like, what did I jeopardize? Like, was it friendship? Was it rekindling? Was it just her tolerating me for eight weeks during the summer? Which is basically him saying, like, she doesn't even like me. So, like, what, are we supposed to be back together? Is it like, why am I supposed to feel bad when she doesn't even like me? It's what it sounds like.

Co-host (17:46)

He said, well, if you know that, like, if you know that she doesn't even like you, then why are you trying to, like, earn sympathy points from us by being like, I've been trying so hard not to upset her.

Ben (17:53)

Yeah, because of the audience.

Co-host (17:56)

Why are you so. Why, if you know that she doesn't like you and. And all this stuff, like, you're sitting here doing this like, puppy dog thing, like, maybe she'll like me. Maybe she'll like me. But then you're sitting here acting like, well, she doesn't even like me. So, like, why the do I have to, like, be so upset about this? It's like, so you know the answer and so now you've exposed your fakery about all this.

Ben (18:15)

Yeah, exactly. So she's like, well, there's a lot of moving pieces and a lot of layers and like, I get what you're saying, but like, if you hated each other, like, go ahead, do what you want. But you know, like, you. Rumor has it you're getting super flirty when you go out at night and she, like, gives him that wide eyed look like you, and he's like, Well, I mean, that's true. I guess now our friendship's. So do you have any advice? I mean, what, should I just stay in my room forever? She's like, just don't go silent. Take accountability. Apologize. No ifs, ands, or buts. Apologize to me for making out in front of that. In front of me with that girl.

Co-host (18:53)

Truly. So now it's Friday, as if they were together.

Ben (18:57)

I'm sorry to interrupt you, but if they were together during this time. Yikes. This makes it 500 times as bad. That makes it 500.

Co-host (19:04)

That's worse. That makes it terrible.

Ben (19:05)

My God.

Co-host (19:06)

Yeah, that's. That's be really, really terrible. So now it's August 22nd, three days before your birthday, and, yeah, everyone's driving out to the Hamptons, and this time, Scott, who is Mia's boyfriend, he is joining for a night. So they're like, well, like, welcome to the Hampton, Scott. Yeah. And Dara's like, Scott's first big weekend and my first one last weekend, so I've kind of been around the block. And then Scott's like, yeah, cool.

Ben (19:34)

Great, because, yeah, this is gonna be fun because I'm like, a guy's guy. They're like, ew. All the girls go, ew. He's like, well, I'm a girls guy as well. Guys, not gross. He goes, yeah, I just want to throw the pig skin around and have some cocktails. Like, what pig skin? It's a football, okay.

Co-host (19:54)

Oh, whatever. And the other car is west and Jesse and Ben and KJ and Carl. The bros. The bros are back together. And Jesse is like. He's like, guys, I have a bit of a boo boo last weekend, right, West. What? Right west of her. Like, oh. Oh, man. There's only, like, two things you can control now. Like, it's your. It's like you're an action. Sorry. It's not. Wesley says this. I think it was KJ who says the only two things you can control right now are your attitude and your effort. So regardless of the up.

Ben (20:27)

No, that is west who's saying that. He's saying, yeah, you can only control your attitude and your effort. And we're like, regardless of the up, we're. We're gonna have fun. Amanda told me to apologize again today in K. Like, I mean, you can only apologize so much. Jesus. You have to apolog. You're going to apologize again. Every episode is west apologizing.

Co-host (20:48)

Yeah. So KJ goes, just your actions speak louder than your words. I'm like, that's the Problem, actually. And by the way, inherently, everything speaks louder than his words because he's just sitting there doing mumble core in his bed. So Jesse's like, what do you mean? Like, let her like, like get her sandwiches and. Or just like, not make out with any girls in front of her. Yes, that's actually exactly the answer. Yeah, that's it. That's the key.

Ben (21:16)

So Sierra is talking about more. She's like, how are we gonna work out the mornings? Mia usually comes and gets in my bed, so how are we gonna deal with that? And Mia's like, well, Scott's only here for a night because he does have to go back to the city. He's like, yeah, gotta do some work tomorrow. I'm going back to Miami. You know, it's been great. Go. I'm looking forward to going back to Miami, though. I mean, Mia's not too exc about it, but I am. I don't like you, Scott. Yeah, I have to say it. I don't like Scott. I don't like Scott for Mia. I think Mia can do way better. And I hope she dumps him. I find someone who's not like, can't wait to go back to Miami.

Co-host (21:54)

Yeah, no, she does. This is not going to last. And she needs someone. Like, she's already declared what she wants out of a partner, and this guy is not going to be able to give it to her. He may be very nice or they may have a nice rapport, but like, he's jet setting around the country. He's a restaurateur. It's just. It doesn't work. Sorry. So, yeah, he's only gonna stay for one night. And then Dara's like, by the way, everyone, as someone who's experienced in living in the summer house, I would like to announce our good friend KJ did ask me to be his girlfriend. Like, really? It's like, when did that happen? This past Sunday. Yeah, like, so you guys are exclusive? Yes, we are exclusive. I am exclusively only bully flirting him. So you can send all. All gifts to this address. I've registered at Macy's. Thank you.

Ben (22:43)

Mia says, I have a clarifying question. Put your hands on the wheel. Seriously, please don't raise your hands in the car. Do you think you're moving too fast? And she says, well, I mean, at this point we're like, I mean, we kind of know what we want. So I think it feels right to full send it. Full sun. Send it. Saturdays are for the boys. Also that they're moving too fast. I Mean, I can. I don't think. I don't think saying boyfriend and girlfriend is moving too fast because they're already sleeping together every day and, like, at each other's houses every day. I mean, if you're getting married or having a baby or something, that's too fast. But boyfriend. Girlfriend's just a word. It's okay.

Co-host (23:21)

They do seem quite functional. Like they are all up in each other, you know, and they are spending a lot of time together, but not in a love bomby, codependent way like Jesse and Lexi. They just really, really like each other. But then they spend time with other people as well. Like, they don't. They, like, talk to other people. And it's not all some weird fantasy that they're building. So it does feel really good. It does feel really fast, too. It maybe doesn't feel as fast for us because this is playing out over many, many weeks for us. But I think it's really only, like, three weeks old. So that's pretty quick, I would have to say. I think, like, six or seven weeks is around when you maybe start having that conversation. But you know what? Everyone works in a different way and a different speed. So God bless. And they're still together, by the way.

Ben (24:07)

I say, you like him, he likes you, nail it down the end, Boom, we're done, you know? And then. Because if you don't like each other in two weeks, you're like, oh, my God, we move too fast. Then that's it. You just break up. Who cares?

Co-host (24:20)

Yeah, exactly.

Ben (24:21)

Fast.

Co-host (24:23)

So the other car arrives and they start. They all pile out. They all tumble out of the car, but then they forget about Ben, and they all close the door, and Ben's like, excuse me. Hello? I'm still in here.

Ben (24:35)

I'm sorry. They were speaking on behalf of the audience. Sorry, Ben. So what? KJ's like, wow. First weekend, I brought my skateboard for the first time ever. Like, wow. Have. Have fun following Carl down the street in the morning. Like, what do you want from us?

Co-host (24:50)

Seriously?

Ben (24:51)

So then everyone goes inside, and Kyle's on the phone outside, and Wes is like, damn. He's soaking up the sun like, no Cheryl Crow.

Co-host (25:00)

I was surprised he even knew who Sheryl Crowe was. I was like, oh, wow, she made it onto your radar. So Kyle's on the phone. He's like, all right, well, hang in there. You'll be missed by someone. Maybe not me, but someone will miss you. And it turns out that Amanda will not be coming to the house this weekend. And so they're like, whoa. And they're all sort of settling in, and it's like a lot of guys. Like, a lot of guys piling into this house.

Ben (25:28)

Yeah. And so it's a dude weekend, and he calls Amanda, and she's like. And then west jokes about adopting a dog last night, and they're like, oh, my God, dude.

Co-host (25:44)

That poor dog.

Ben (25:45)

That poor dog. Oh, yeah. So this weekend is for the boys, am I right? Like, what if it was just all boys?

Co-host (25:56)

And then Sierra's like, where's Amanda? Because there's only three girls here right now. And I was like, oh, she bailed. I don't really have a good answer. She just kind of was on the struggle bus, you know? So Sierra's like, okay, well, that's unfortunate. So then she goes up to KJ's, like, well, I heard you got a girlfriend, by the way. And like, so you. You've got. You've got a girlfriend, and you've got a girlfriend, like, hello. And Keja's like, is that the girlfriend dance? He's like, no. Well, how do you feel? So she basically is like, you got to tell me about this. Why did you not tell me about you and Dara being exclusive? Right. I was waiting to see you face to face. I'm never too busy for tea. Let's go. So it's really sweet because basically, Sierra and Mia pull him to the side, are like, okay, tell us everything. They're like, his sisters.

Ben (26:40)

And Sierra's like, look, I mean, I think it is a little fast. I want you to brace yourself and, you know, walk cautiously. He's like, yeah, but like, that's the thing, though. Like, everyone has like, like, okay. She says, but, yeah, I've done multiple share houses, and obviously mine were not great experiences, but no one's going anywhere, so you don't need to rush the process, okay? Because you will have to see this person when you break up, and they will try and make you look stupid on tv. So. And me is like, yeah, you know, just don't get. Just don't propose too soon, you know? And also, you're younger than her, so just make sure you know what you. What you want, okay? Because she's an old lady trying to pin you down. It's like, oh, how many years are they apart? They don't seem that many years apart to me. I don't know. Everyone looks like a child to me on this show, so I'm like, I know. You're both still young.

Co-host (27:37)

Is KJ like, 24? He seems really young, but I don't know how old he is. KJ And Dara are like, the two kids. And I think it's cute that Sierra and Mia sort of swoop in and are like, okay, your big sisters are here. And we just want to let you know. Slow down. Slow down a little bit. So then in the meantime, all the guys are, like, jumping in the pool. It's like testosterone overload. They are all, like, just being broy, like, shooting baskets. They're just. I'm like. I'm just waiting for them to. To all gather around and watch Zootopia again on the big screen. Like, they did that one last year. They all had, like, a slumber party outside and watch Zootopia.

Ben (28:14)

Sierra calls Amanda on FaceTime, and she's like, you better be asleep. I was napping. She goes, why are there so many boys here? There's only three girls. I'm gonna kill you. So outside, the guys like, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.

Co-host (28:29)

It's boys summer. It's boy summer, guys. Amanda's like, I just can't do it. Serious, like, you're not coming at all. I think the idea of going out there just, like, overwhelming me so much, because obviously this summer, Rakana, it's been rough. And I just feel like at this point, you know, I just been. I've been showing up with this smile on my face every weekend. I'm like, have you? Have you, Amanda showing up with a smile on your face every weekend?

Ben (29:01)

I mean, there's been, like, two that

Co-host (29:03)

you've done that, but you've smiled. I've seen you smile a few times over the years, but she's like, I just can't.

Ben (29:10)

It's starting to catch up with me, and I can't take it anymore. You're pissed at West? I think so. Sarah's like, I get it. And she goes, did Wes say anything to you when he got to the house? And she's like, no. So west comes, like, as if he heard it and knocks on the door. And he's like, okay, this will take, like, three seconds. Oh, my God. Are you on FaceTime? I can come back. She's like, no, you can go ahead and say it. Say it right now. He's like, well, I don't feel any better. Like, you don't have to reply. I just wanted you to know that after a week, like, I still feel pretty bummed out about it. And I apologize again. Just.

Co-host (29:51)

Okay, tell whoever that is. What's up. Bye. And then he leaves. And then Weston, Amanda I'm sorry. Sierra and Amanda just, like, look at each other on FaceTime. Like, this guy. By the way, I think the reason why I don't believe that Amanda and Wes are hooking up yet is because I think that, like, Amanda's love language a little bit is basically to nag. I. I hate to say nag because there's so many negative connotations of, like, you know, women being put in this position of being like, the nag or whatever, but I kind of feel like that is Amanda's love language. We literally just saw it on this footage of the two of them at the. At the Yankees game where Wes is up and he's cheering and Amanda, like, pulls him down. Like, sit down. Or she says, act like you love me. Like, that's her vibe is like. I think when she's in a relationship, she. She does that. And. And I don't think we've see her really being like that with west just yet. I think that, like, if she were romantically linked with west, she would be telling him, you gotta do this. You need to fix this. You know, why are you. This. Why are you being mean to Sierra? But instead, she's sort of being like Jo. Like, she has that deep. I think she has more of a detached vibe. It's not like a naggy vibe. I think it's more like a you need to like a. Like, this is my advice to you vibe. And I just don't think she would give such sort of sanguine advice if she were romantically attached to him.

Ben (31:16)

Well, I guess I'd counter that by saying I think she is doing that. I think she's saying, you need to go apologize this year and that apology wasn't good enough and you need to apologize again. And then she's calling, calling Sierra, like, did he apologize to you? Because I told him to apologize to you. And then he comes in to make sure he's getting the apology, the apology in there. And I think she's not being, as, you know, relationship bothering him because she's not technically with him, and she knows she's fucked. So she's like, you have to finish this. Really? I think the nag comes in with, like, you need to finish this thing with Sierra now. You need to make it okay with Sierra before we can move on. We can't. We can't move on together if you're still in this thing with Sierra. So you need to go apologize and you need to make it happen. And if it didn't work last time, then you need to just keep doing it because we can't start a new job until you've quit your old job. Basically, that kind of thinking. So I am seeing, I am seeing this as her kind of nagging West. But I know what you mean because like, yeah, she's normally, but she can't be yet because they're not out of the closet. So I guess that's how I'm looking at. But you know, it's like when you know the ending of a movie and you look at the whole thing totally different. So that's the ending that I think I know in my mind. But it doesn't mean that it's true. It's just how I'm reading into it.

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So then Sierra is like, you know, he wouldn't even be in this situation if it wasn't for his dumb, stupid face. Whatever. And so she's like, here's the thing, I don't hate him, but it's just really hard to keep up the front that I do. And it's just getting exhausting at this point. And I just feel like I've built up stories in my head about who he is and the things that he's done and I'm sure he's built up stories in his head and we should just talk and just put it all out there. So she basically goes over to him and she's like, you want to get coffee in the morning? And he's like, oh yeah, yeah. Okay. Coffee in the morning. He's like, whoa. Oh my God. Oh, that's crazy. She we're getting coffee tomorrow, Jesse.

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Ben (35:54)

Yeah. So then Ben is on the phone with Sabrina and this is when he's like, sabrina, Bale, I'm pretty good. How are you doing? Oh, I thought this was when he was doing the hand job thing. So he's just checking in with her. So then everyone's partying and drinking and they're home now they're home. Now they're back home after partying at 2:49am and west comes in and they're sprinting for the Chinese food.

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I would too, to be honest. And Dara's like, well, that's a little bit rude, leaving me behind for Panda Express. And KJ's like, I want that orange chicken. I mean, am I moving too fast? Because I literally sprinted over here. I don't know. Like, hey. Well, one thing I love is being in the mix this summer. So in that spirit, see you guys in the morning. I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed. Sleeping in the mix. Still counting.

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Kyle is having fun and around with everybody and picking out on Chinese food and he's like, wow, here I am for the first time. In a long time. Having fun, feeling a little more light hearted. Feeling like myself. And it's because my wife is nowhere to be seen. So, yeah, I think I'm really starting to realize how we are.

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And we see he's having a great time because he's taking the nozzle from the kitchen and just like, spring it up like. Like a Bellagio fountain and then they all fall over. So Kyle's like, yeah, I wanted to spray that kitchen nozzle all summer long on the bed, and I haven't had a chance to. Now finally I can do it because Amanda isn't here. Just made me realize it's. She always hates my kitchen nozzle fun.

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So, yeah, he sits down with Ben outside and he's like, yo, real talk, I'm trying to level with you here. All right? I. I mean, basically I felt really bad because the first couple of weeks, like, I felt like you saw me at my worst. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think this is your worst. Or it's. I see what you're going through. I'm not judging you. Everyone goes through troubles with business and relationships. I'm not looking at that, saying, that's who you are, mate. I know exactly who you are. You're a man with an extremely hot wife that I'd love to bang at some point.

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Ben (38:01)

Great.

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Ben (38:06)

So now everyone goes to bed. And then now the next morning, Carl is talking to somebody and. Or he's listening to something we just hear. Gently relax your intention. Gently relax your intention.

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Gotta get the bagels. Gotta get the bagels. Gotta get the bagels. So they're gonna be going on a boat today. They're excited. Boat day. Boat day. Boat day. Excited. Boat day. Boat day. But Scott has to leave. Emil's like, I wish you were staying for the boat. He's like, I wish I were, too. But, you know, when you've got two families, I mean, I have to go to Miami. That's what I meant to say. Okay.

Ben (38:46)

I have to go to Miami, wife. I mean, Miami. So sorry. I'll be back. So she is saying that, you know, speaking to the media made her feel like it's time to move on and make decisions in her life. And so now it's time to make a decision, and I hope it is to dump this guy. So now it's later in the day and they're getting ready to go on this boat or whatever, and Jesse is going to go out with west and Carl Caesar, like, You are smoking. You look amazing.

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Oh, you look so good. So yeah, Sarah comes down the stairs to. For her big, her big thing. And this is where Ben is on the phone and he's like, oh my God. Sabrina. Sabrina Bale. You know, it's crazy. I had a dream that someone gave me a hand job in the house. Isn't that wild? And her name was Amanda. And it turns out I wasn't really sleeping, so maybe it really happened. Who knows? Isn't that so funny? Isn't that the funniest thing you've ever heard, Sabrina?

Ben (39:52)

But he's saying you had it. He's like, oh, that's crazy. You had a dream that someone gave me hand jobs. The minute Sabrina's not there, she's like, who's giving you hand jobs?

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Oh, I thought he had said that he had a dream that he got a hand job.

Ben (40:05)

No, Sabrina, I was like, why are you telling her this? It's so crazy. I had such a crazy dream. Somebody gave you a hand job in the summer house. And he's like, that is crazy. So now let's see here. They're looking for west, the big meeting with west. So let's go with West Sierra, the big summit.

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So Wes is like, I woke up before my alarm went off. Cuz they're, by the way, they're sitting at this like outdoor area overlooking some sort of water or something like that. And she's like, why? He's like, I'm antsy, I guess. So they're sitting on up. There's sort of like an, it's an L shaped sort of bench area and there are different, they're sitting on different parts of the L and he can barely look at her. He's just sort of doing that thing where he's like looking at his feet and every now and then he raises up his eyes and squints at her but he like pretty much can't look at her. And he's like all nervous and she's like, okay, well it's been two years of nothing really being sad. And I'm, I'm almost like scared to be nice to you or scared, you know, to be myself around you. Because I'm afraid of being like embarrassed and like last weekend was like so weird. It's just like the very thing that I was afraid of happening. And you sat right next to me, you didn't even see me. And he's like. And she says like, I just feel like all this is very triggering in this whole cycle of like whatever the Our relationship is.

Ben (41:20)

He's like, yeah, like, I'm subjecting you to that, and, like, I'm really sorry for it, so I'm gonna apologize. It's like, oh, God. So you're just gonna say the same over and over. So she says, you know, I was just trying to think things over, and I don't want to rehash it, but, you know, you talking to the press and the media, that was a nail in the coffin because you downplayed our whole relationship, and the wording was like, we're not each other's people. And I really did consider you my best friend. And I feel like we had such a great friendship, and that's why it was so hurtful, because I don't just call anybody my best friend. And it felt like you. I didn't know you because, like, I just would never expect you to do that. And he's like, yeah. And I think, like, hearing you say the words, like, back to me, like, yeah, it makes me really sad. And, like, in the moment, I was just, like, under attack, you know, and you weren't really communicating. And so, like, naturally, I just tried to defend myself.

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So she's like, well, I'm sorry that I didn't text you, and I wasn't there for you. I can take accountability for not being there for you when you probably needed it. Like, I feel like this wouldn't be the situation if we didn't have all the cameras and fans or anything. It would just be a lot simpler. It's like, yeah. And, like, the other hard part is that, like, I know what my phone looks like, and it's just, like, so many people talking about you and I and comparing us, like, talking on me and, like, whatever. It's just, like, super nasty. And, like, your natural instinct is to resent the person everyone is on you about. And I was like, well, this feels a little bit more honest. He basically is like, everyone took your side, and everyone's dunking on me. And so then, yeah, I, like, really resented you because I felt like. Like no one understood my side of the story. So I felt like this was actually good, that Wes was finally being a little bit more honest about how he felt about her instead of just being like, I was trying not to, like, upset you, you know?

Ben (43:14)

Yeah. And he's saying, like, yeah, and then you come after me, and then now everybody's after me. And so, of course, I just was like, res.

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And he's like, but it wasn't really you doing it. It was the Audience kind of thing. And she says, well, yeah, I guess that muddies the water of how we feel about each other, because, like, how do you know if you're on TV and you're reading all of this other. And then I feel pressured act this way towards you, and you feel this pressure to, you know, constantly apologize in a manner so they say that they miss each other, and she cries and she says, you know, I don't want people talking or being mean to you because you're not a bad person. I never thought you were a bad person. But last wasn't really in this space, but this year, I'm just tired of carrying it, and I want to let my guard down and be normal around you, but it's hard because I don't know what that even looks like at this point.

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And so he's like, well, I obviously can still feel that. You do have, like, clearly a lot of walls up. And I hate that because, like. Like, when you told me about the house in North Carolina, like, I know that story more than, like, anyone at that table, and I wanted to talk to you about it. It. And, like, how proud I am of you. And I was, like, how cool that was. And then, like, I knew we weren't gonna, like, talk about it. And, like, those moments are, like, really hard because, like, even if we never talk again, I want you to know that, like, I'm sorry for anything and, like, everything that hurts, like, been, like, a lot. And I have, like, a lot of time to reflect. And, like, I was thinking about, like, the family stuff, you know, like, when I had you meet my family, and, like. Like, I don't want to have to say sorry for. To you, but, like, you know, for doing that. But, like, I thought about it, and it's, like, really impactful, and, like, I feel really bad. So, like, I under. I think I understand you, like, more now. Am I. Am I excused from class now? Can I go?

Ben (45:05)

He's like, okay, I've already used walls down and everything I can already use, so I'm just gonna say this. I see you more. Because that's really, like, her key phrase, you know, It's. I just want to be seen. I just want to be seen. I just want to be seen. So he's like, I see you more. She's like, thank you. That's all I wanted. Okay, you can pass. It's like she opens the door. It's like he finally came up with the passcode. The passcode. And he's like, yeah, you know, I'm just happier when we communicate, you know. And now you're smiling. That's good. So we should move forward to like, you know, whatever boundaries you have. I mean, I could be your best friend tomorrow. And she's like, can we just be best friends again? And then she starts to cry and they hug and cuddle and I'm like, oh, God damn it. No, don't fall for it.

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I know.

Ben (45:51)

That's the thing I will say. If this stuff all didn't happen with Amanda, he would have been officially forgiven.

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He would have been audience. He would have been because it actually was a nice scene and it just was painful knowing what's coming. If you didn't know, then it would be like, this was a nice moment. They were being honest. And I thought that, like, there was something kind of like, like heart wrenching about her saying, can we just be best friends again? And she just starts to sob and he goes over and hugs her. And it was like a. It was like a nice moment of release of like, I just. I'm sick of fighting with you. I want to be best friends with you again. I just want like our friendship back. And it seems sweet and seems nice and it's like all the more frustrating to know that he's taken all this goodwill and he's going to on it, you know, like, if he wants to have a relationship with Amanda, you can have a relationship with Amanda. But, like, you're not going to give your best friend a heads up. I just think it's just so shitty. Like, he's like, obviously both of them should have linked in Sierra and been like, something weird is happening. We're starting to feel something like, you know, whatever. Whatever it is, she still probably wouldn't have been happy but like, link her in. But, like, yet again, she's going to be left to look like, you know, the idiot. And it's just. It's so not right.

Ben (47:05)

Yeah. And it's. It's also frustrating. I mean, I don't know that I would have forgiven him. I think the audience would have been like, okay, that sounds good to me. But to me, you would not have forgiven. Took you like a year and a half for you to finally just go regurgitate what the audience is saying basically, which is like, you. You took her to your family's house. That makes someone feel a certain, you know, all this stuff that he just couldn't get and he could never really understand it was acting like a huge victim about. It's just taking him all this time to read what the audience reaction is and just to repeat everything that he needed to say to get by, you know, and she's. But she's. You know, she. She falls for it because she does really like him. My thing is like, do you like him as a friend? Like, what. What is this still? Because I still don't have clarification, because they still seem, like beyond friends to me at this point. So I'm like, is this a rekindle or is this a friendship? But ultimately, you know, we just know west is a douchebag. So it's like, no, stop. But apparently they had a conversation before this because there were all these rumors, you know, when all those rumors were coming out online about west and Amanda a couple weeks before this. There's a room. I mean, I don't know what's true or what's not, but apparently Sierra called her Amanda and was like, is this true? And Amanda's like, no, there's nothing going on. And then. So, yeah, that. That just makes it. I wish.

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The episode ends with Teller. Yeah, the episode basically ends with west saying, by the way, I knew you weren't gonna make out with Jesse. And she goes, I'm pissed that you said you didn't care. Are you kidding me? And he's like, well, what was I gonna do? She's like, well, stop it or save me. Like, that's true. And then he sort of, like, looks off in the distance and like, this

Ben (48:53)

is, like, exactly what we thought this whole thing was about. Anyway, I love that he finally. It takes him all of this to finally get to the true statement, which is, I knew you weren't going to make out with Jesse. That's literally all you care about. Oh, my God. It's like that revenge with the girl was the Jesse revenge, you know, was like getting revenge on her for the Jesse thing. He's just so transparent. He makes me crazy. And it takes him all of this to finally say the one true state meant.

Co-host (49:19)

And I love the last shot they got of him, sort of like squinting his eyes and looking out on the horizon, and we know, like, there's ahead for this man. So anyway, that's where the episode ends. And yeah, we're. We're coming close to the end of this season. Here we are heading into the last weekend of. Or or so of summer, so we'll see what. How it unfolds next week. And we still, again, have that Kyle and Carl fight to look forward to, which should be a real, real, real doozy. So thanks, everyone, for being here. And we will catch you on the next episode of Watch what Crap ends. Bye, everyone.

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