#3333 Ladies of London S4E09: Margo Away

Summary

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Watch What Crappens – Ep. #3333 Recap

Ladies of London S4E09: Margo Away
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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Episode Theme Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the dramatic and hilariously tense ninth episode of "Ladies of London" Season 4, titled "Margo Away." The central conflict revolves around an explosive showdown at Emma’s garden party between Margot and Mark, which spirals into accusations, hurt feelings, and, ultimately, Margot’s emotionally-fraught departure from the group. The hosts deliver their signature Bravo-style commentary, relishing the show's blend of aristocratic etiquette, British banter, and reality TV chaos—while taking aim at both the cast’s antics and the episode's deeper themes of belonging, self-image, and social codes.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Timestamps

1. Opening Remarks & Broadway Shoutout (03:00–05:00)

• Ben and Ronnie open with lively banter, including a shoutout from Ronnie to his partner Dominique, who choreographed "The Great Gatsby" on Broadway, noting its two-year run and viral choreography.

Notable Quote:

"Dom was, like, the first person ever to create viral Broadway choreography. That has never happened before."
— Ronnie (04:00)

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2. The Garden Party Blowup: Margot vs. Mark (06:20–15:00)

• Recap of the ongoing feud at the garden party.
• Margot attempts to confront Mark over his insults; Mark stonewalls her, refusing any confrontation.
• Kimmy steps in, escalating the drama with loud arm-swatting, while Emma tries to maintain British decorum.
• The hosts mock the cultural clash (“Americans yell, the Brits whisper”).
• Margot is accused of “prance away, Mark,” a comment with homophobic undertones, leading to group condemnation.
• The cast debates the line between British humor/bullying and outright nastiness.

Notable Quotes:

"You turned it into a boxing match. It’s an afternoon tea. We’re not sitting on top of the Hollywood sign."
— Ben (12:06)

"Oh darling, who wouldn’t be obsessed with you? Have you seen yourself?"
— Mark (13:20, as recounted by Ben)

"The minute that she leaves, you’re mean about whatever you complimented."
— Ronnie (10:52)

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3. Is It Banter or Bullying? & The Cultural Divide (16:00–25:00)

• Ben and Ronnie dissect Margot’s complaint that the Brits (especially Mark) are “mean” after being complimentary, exploring the rules of British social banter.
• Multiple cast members and the hosts point out that Margot is guilty of the same sniping, but less skillfully.
• Margot’s “prance away” comment is examined as crossing the line into homophobia; the hosts agree this is what really damages her standing, not merely calling Mark “weird” or “freak.”

Notable Quote:

"That is now officially homophobic. You are making fun of the fact that he's gay. And people could come at you for lots of things...but I think when the moment that you start, like, getting homophobic like that? Prancing? You were on the gayest show on Bravo, and you better—take that all back."
— Ronnie (16:00)

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4. Margot’s Meltdown & Group Fallout (28:00–45:00)

• Margot attempts to elicit sympathy by citing panic attacks and feeling bullied, triggering skepticism and frustration from both cast and hosts.
• The group splits; Margot isolates herself, feeling victimized by British banter and social exclusion.
• Ronnie analogizes Margot’s alienation to “that girl from high school calling you out as gay,” heightening the emotional stakes.
• Mark confides in the group about being branded a “freak” since childhood, revealing the term’s impact on him as a gay man.

Notable Quotes:

"I've spent 15 years going around this maze, and the one time I need to make a swift exit, it actually works. Bloody hell."
— Mark (19:41)
(On getting lost in the garden maze as a farcical, literal escape.)

"I will not, in Emma's house, be run after as a branded freak. I will not."
— Mark (38:47)

"I just want to say cheers to you, to your beauvais little ass. Beauvoir. Bavarian ass. Whatever that French term is about omelets. That's you right now."
— Ronnie (62:43)
(Highlighting the messy but earnest attempts at camaraderie.)

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5. Cheddar Tour & Alleged Panic Attack (46:00–54:00)

• Next day, the group tours Cheddar, with classic posh-Brit humor (“She literally owns Cheddar cheese”).
• Margot sits out, claiming a panic attack and sobbing on a public bench, which Ben and Ronnie skewer as performative rather than authentic.
• Margot’s emotional outburst is seen as desperate—an attempt to recenter herself in the narrative.

Notable Quotes:

"I'm terribly sorry, ma'am, but there's a law that you're not allowed to show this many emotions in the English countryside."
— Ronnie (48:54)

"We spoke to the medic on set, and they said that Margot was having an acute case of Americanness."
— Ronnie (51:46)

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6. Group Relief (Post-Margot) & Dinner at Longleat (59:00–66:48)

• With Margot gone, the remaining women relax and finally enjoy themselves at dinner, feeding giraffes and exchanging jokes.
• Mark receives support for revealing vulnerability; the group toasts to Emma’s hospitality.
• Mutual relief is palpable: “At least we’ll have one evening where it’s like, no drama. Oh, my God. Finally a fun night.” (Emma/Ronnie, 60:43)

Notable Quotes:

"Some of us are just made of toffle stuff. So they cheers again and was like, oh my God. Mark actually showed that he was a human this week. It's unbelievable."
— Ben (62:58)

"Getting lit at Longleat is old fashioned. It's actually mandatory."
— Ben (65:21)

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7. Margot’s Blame Game & Misplaced Victimhood (68:30–75:00)

• In London, Margot blames Martha for not being supportive, despite Martha’s sincere efforts.
• Hosts highlight Margot’s hypocrisy—she’s quick to offer “tough love” but can’t handle it herself.
• Micah coaches Margot through apologizing to Mark, but Margot still refuses true accountability.

Notable Quotes:

"What feels natural for you to say? Actually, I'm not—you know what? Let's not go with that, because I already know it's a disaster."
— Micah (75:04)

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8. Mark & Margot’s “Peace Summit” — The Final Confrontation (76:18–78:50)

• Mark and Margot finally meet. Margot claims her “freak” comment wasn’t personal, blames Mark for being “flirtatious,” and doubles down, with Mark exasperated: “Oh, she’s a lunatic.”
• Ben & Ronnie agree Margot is essential as a “villain” but lambaste her reality TV tropes and manipulation.

Notable Quotes:

"It just dawned on him like, oh, I've been fighting with a crazy person ... we're fighting with somebody who's not even with us. Like, need to stop. This is like, it's getting to the point now where it's not fair."
— Ben (79:38, referencing RHONY’s 'Scary Island' moment for comparison)

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Additional Memorable Moments

• Kimmy’s Culinary Magic (24:21–24:34):

  • Hosts marvel at Kimmy’s unexpected chef skills, especially her “unctuous omelette” and signature jazz-hand descriptions.

• “Prancing” as a British slur (13:40–16:00):

  • Ronnie and Ben dissect usage of “prance away” as a derogatory, coded insult.

• Lottie’s Crystal Fails (55:10):

  • Lottie jokes her “protective crystal” has only made the trip worse: “Damn rocks.”

• Cheddar Caves & Anglo-Saxon Etymology (48:15–48:44):

  • The group gets a snobbish history lesson ("Anglo-Saxon word for 'kudor'"), and Ben quips, "Is there an Anglo Saxon word for dumb idiot? Because that's what we're gonna call our friend Margo after this."

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Episode Breakdown: Character & Cultural Analysis

• Margot: The American outsider, increasingly isolated, her overt confrontational style at odds with British subtext—her efforts at victimhood undermined by hypocrisy and reality TV tropes.
• Mark: His witty, caustic humor masks real pain from lifelong targeting as a gay man, leading to one of his most vulnerable moments.
• The Brits (Emma, Lottie, Martha, Missy, etc.): Default to understated drama, value banter over emotive confrontation. Margot’s foreignness amplifies group unity against her.

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Final Takeaways & Hosts’ Views

• The episode’s drama turns on questions of intent, cultural code, and the fine line between banter and bullying.
• Margot’s performative distress is almost universally dismissed, while Mark garners empathy for his authenticity.
• The rest of the group—relieved at Margot’s departure—enjoy genuine camaraderie, jokes, and the pleasures of English country life (and cheese).
• Ben and Ronnie revel in the contrast between the British cast’s dry wit and the “Americanitis” Margot brings, confirming the show’s sharp social satire and endless reality TV riches.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "You turned it into a boxing match. It's an afternoon tea. We're not sitting on top of the Hollywood sign." — Ben (12:06)
• "I will not, in Emma's house, be run after as a branded freak. I will not." — Mark (38:47)
• "We spoke to the medic on set, and they said that Margot was having an acute case of Americanness." — Ronnie (51:46)
• "She accused us of saying that we were coming at her and bullying. Oh God, bullying again. So now you're bullies too? Everyone's a bully." — Ben (58:30)
• "Getting lit at Longleat is old fashioned. It's actually mandatory." — Ben (65:21)
• "Oh, she’s a lunatic." — Mark (76:50)
• "We’re fighting with somebody who’s not even with us ... it's getting to the point now where it's not fair." — Ben (79:38)

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For Further Listening

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Transcript

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[Ben]

Hi, welcome to watch what crappens. Ronnie, that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

[Ronnie]

Hello, Ronnie. How are you?

[Ben]

Good. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's Lads of Londs Day. Ladies of London, episode nine of season one. Next week we are going to have some very special announcements, so be here to get them. Okay? And what else do I have to say? Oh, if you want this recap on video or you want our bonus episode of Survivor this week or you want Discord Server to talk to each other or a free weekly blog slash newsletter or you want ad free listening, you get that all over at Patreon. And thanks so much to everybody who has been there with us for that. We love you.

[Ronnie]

Can I give a shout out? Can I give a special shout out? I wasn't even planning to do this, but then I was looking at my T shirt here because by the way, I'm sitting in Ronnie's house. If you didn't hear the Beverly Hills recap, I had technical issues in my place so I moved over to Ronnie's place. So that's why you might be like, huh, what? But anyway, this has nothing to do with that. I was looking at my T shirt here. I'm wearing the Great Gatsby T shirt. And it occurred to me that tomorrow is the two year anniversary of the Great Gatsby opening on Broadway. And I want to give a shout out to my partner Dominique, because he choreographed that. That was his first ever Broadway show that he choreographed, and it's an amazing, amazing career triumph that he got to do that. It's what he's been working years and years and years for, to be able to choreograph something on Broadway. And it's now been open for two years, and I'm giving an unsolicited shout out to a him, but also the Great Gatsby people. People. And they're on a national tour, so if it comes to your city, go check it out and see Dom's work, because he did great work. And if you're in New York City, go watch the Great Gatsby.

[Ben]

That's so cool. I think he just won an award for that too.

[Ronnie]

He did. He won an award in London. There was an East End production that happened earlier in the year, and so he got an award there. And I'm so excited for him and for all his future, you know, his future Broadway things. But, like, I'm a very proud boyfriend, and I think it's tremendous that his show has been still open for two years. That's, like, really hard to do on Broadway these days. So. Yeah, check it out.

[Ben]

Yeah, it really is.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Good for him. Right on. Congrats.

[Ronnie]

And I'm gonna give. Wait. I'm gonna give him one more shout out. Here's the thing. Not only did he do that, Dom was, like, the first person ever to create viral Broadway choreography. That has never happened before. And there was a whole article recently about how all the Broadway shows are trying to do choreography that'll go viral. That started with Dom with his, like, new money dance that, you know, you've seen on Tik Tok. So I want to give him his flowers for that, because I feel like he sort of didn't get the appreciation for being the first choreographer to really do that on Broadway. So I'm just gonna. I'm just sending love to Dom today.

[Ben]

Dom. Where is he now? Is he with you?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, he's. He's here in la.

[Ben]

Well, tell him to get the out of my house. It's not a whorehouse. Dom.

[Ronnie]

Get out of here.

[Ben]

But he is in LA right now.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, he's in la. But now. Now that we've given Dom all that love, now let's give ladies of London some fucking love too, because this show is so good. I know I say it every single week, but I sit here, I come here at. On a Thursday you know, we just talked for a while about Beverly Hills and got ourselves whipped up into a frenzy about Dorit and Kyle and Erica and this and that and. Why are you saying that you're such a hypocrite? And then you just come to Ladies of London, and this show is just. It's just so perfect to me. I think it's hilarious. I sit there and watch them. There was a segment on tonight's episode when Margot has gone home, and they're just all having dinner and they're getting drunk, and they're just laughing and joking with each other, and it's, like, weirdly exhilarating for me. It's like, I love by the way your camera just zoomed way. Your camera's doing crazy things right now.

[Ben]

I have, like, a camera. Little camera thing and turn off. Oh, gestures follow thing.

[Ronnie]

That's funny. I'm, like, doing my thing, and the camera, like, zoomed out and then zoom back in again. I was, like, very cinematic over here. No, but, like, I just love that I can watch these people just laugh and joke in a way and just sort of just be entertained by it and feel like I'm right there. It's very parasocial for me. And also, I just find that the way that they laugh and joke is just so much funnier than, like, anyone else on Bravo. Like, when we watch other casts of other shows sit around a table and crack jokes, they're just, like, not nearly as funny or as interesting as these people are.

[Ben]

Yeah, this is a great show. I love every episode. I think there's only one more episode after this one, so I'm bummed. I'm pretty bummed.

[Ronnie]

Bummed also.

[Ben]

Okay, let's get to it. Season four, episode nine, Way out of line, spelled W H E Y. It's a cheesy show. So we are still with people having a fit at the garden party because Margol has tried to have a confrontation with Mark, and he's walking off refusing a confrontation. And she's kind of yelling at him as he goes, like, why are you so afraid, Mark? And Kimmy's like, oh, shut up, Kimmy. It's. You're a real. You're a real. All right, Margo.

[Ronnie]

You would know. And L is like, oh, my gosh. If our British mothers could see this. Somebody shouting across a garden at the marchiness of Bath's estate,

[Ben]

our mothers would grow their bangs an extra 2 inches just to hide their eyes.

[Ronnie]

If only I had a tiny little suit to put around my eyeballs.

[Ben]

If our Mothers could see this. They would enter Tina Yada's lookalike contest just to spite the family. My mother won that, by the way. So Margot is still sitting by herself off to the side. And this is still the weirdest move for me, where Margo separates herself from everybody else. And then she's like, fine, I'll have a discussion with Mark. Like. Like, okay, let's call people into my office now to have Margot. You're not that important. Get your ass up and move over to the other table, you weirdo.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Oh, don't say weirdo. So Margot is like. She's like. She's like, I asked him to come talk to me, and he left. And Enema's like, okay. But he's like, my dear. He's like my best friend. He can't leave, you know? So Kimmy walks off. She's like, cry baby, bitch.

[Ben]

Cry baby. Batch of hatter with y'. All. So maring.

[Ronnie]

Kimmy does, by the way, in this episode, Kimmy does a lot of really good arm swatting. Like, I've had enough of it. Like, does a lot of that thing where she's like taking the back of her arm and swatting. Like a low hanging lantern or something. Like, I've had enough. It's enough. It's ridiculous. Just a. Right now too much.

[Ben]

I wasn't yelling. I was just projecting my voice across the garden. And then we see flashback to two minutes earlier with her going, come on, Mark, what's wrong? What are you saying?

[Ronnie]

Scared of.

[Ben]

Just come chat with me.

[Ronnie]

Isn't that yelling in British, though? In American, that's like whispering, but in British, that's yelling.

[Ben]

So I think Americans say anything, and British people are like, oh, God, could you write that? Maybe just write it down.

[Ronnie]

We really can't do anything right. And honestly, I get it. I get it. I'm not complaining. I'm admitting. So Margo's like, well, you. I'm sorry.

[Ben]

She.

[Ronnie]

She says, regarding Kimmy, you can take the girl out of Florida, but you can't take a girl from Florida to Longleat, it seems.

[Ben]

Dun, dun, dun. So then off to the side. Now they're outside the garden, like in the opening to this maze thing. And so Kimmy and Mark are talking, and he's like, it's Emma's party and I'm not Margo. Margo. How dare she scream at you across a garden? Across a garden. Who screams across a garden? I mean, in America, we're like, go outside and scream at each other in the garden. For Christ's sake, don't scream at each other inside. And here they're like, in the garden.

[Ronnie]

We do a lot of our screaming in the garden, but it is. It does feel very British to be like, don't scream in the garden. Don't raise your voice in the garden. Not at the garden. The petunias will build. He's like, well, I'm not going to make a scene, even though I've just stormed out. So then back in at the tables, Emma is like, mark is my best friend. He's Henry's godfather, and he's capable of great emotional everything. And he just doesn't tend to do that. This is just his sense of humor. I think my head is permanently detached from the neck. Could someone please put it back on? Thank you.

[Ben]

So now Martha goes out to Kimmy and Mark, and she's like, oh, I handled this badly, Mark. Oh, no, that was horrific. It was horrific, Martha. Well, I handled it badly. I'm sorry. It's fine. Don't take any blame. You don't need to take any blame for. For the Americans screaming in a garden. And Margo's like, I don't want to go pissed off.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

She's like, well, she's not gonna talk about this for me. I'm gonna go over there and talk so Martha doesn't have to stick up for me. So she goes over there now. And Martha's like, well, what she's upset about is she feels you pay her a compliment and that, well, she'll get over it. She'll get over it.

[Ronnie]

But the minute that she leaves, you're mean about whatever you complimented. And Kimmy goes, oh, who cares? She's not English. She hasn't been living here. She doesn't understand that. That's our love language. It's a compliment you and destroy you all in the same breath.

[Ben]

Oh, give me a break. Martha, she lives in Los Angeles. She's an actress.

[Ronnie]

Marvel. I love Kimmy's default is to On Los Angeles. I just adore it. Well, I mean, look at her. She lives in a place that loves a place called in and Out. Okay, I'll tell you what. I'm hurtly going out. Okay?

[Ben]

So now everybody's basically coming out and out to them. And Martha's like, well, she hasn't been living here, Kimmy. She doesn't understand the culture. Oh, God.

[Ronnie]

What?

[Ben]

This is so bad. This was just so bad. So Margot comes up now. He's like, well, I'm not going to have some sort of confrontation in my friend's garden. I refuse.

[Ronnie]

Well, why don't you just have, like, a chat with me?

[Ben]

Because I have nothing to say.

[Ronnie]

But I'm not confrontational to you. Kimmy's a Los Angeles over there.

[Ben]

You turned it into a boxing match. It's an afternoon tea. We're not sitting on top of the Hollywood sign.

[Ronnie]

So then Missy comes out. I would like to say something here. It's like, oh, don't get. It's like, don't get involved. Don't get involved. So Margot is like. She's like. I said, why don't you come over and chat with me, Mark? Yeah.

[Ben]

And he's like, oh, I can't do it. I have nothing to say. Nothing to say at all. And so Mitzi's like, oh, stop getting involved, Kimmy. Just please stop getting involved. Let them deal with it. So she takes Kimmy away. I'm surprised Kimmy let her. But Kimmy's like, all right, all right, fine. And Margo's like, well, he has so much to say earlier, Mark. He's like, oh, are we gonna go back to crushed velvet? Please, I can't.

[Ronnie]

This jumpsuit is the bane of all their existences. Margot's like, no, we're not gonna go back to thinking that my Alaia isn' good enough for Longley. He's like, oh, well, it's not that it's not good enough. It's that it's transparent. Just like a personality. It's like, oh, so, okay, well, then

[Ben]

you have things to say then. Same to me. He's like, no, no. Why are you scared? Are you scared to talk to me? No. And he takes her arms. He's like, darling, I'm not scared of you. She's like, oh, don't touch me. Do not touch me. I mean, I'm sorry, but do not touch me.

[Ronnie]

Okay, well, I'm not. I'm not scared to talk to you. I just don't care to talk to you. That's it. So Marco's like, but then why are you so obsessed with me that you talk about me all the time? Oh, darling, who wouldn't be obsessed with you? Have you seen yourself? Which is just the best read, the best British read you could get.

[Ben]

And she's like, oh, my God, you're so weird and creepy. Oh, I'm creepy? Okay. No, you are. You're like a weird, creepy masked clown. I mean, God. So he turns and starts walking away, and she's like, oh, whatever. Prance away, Mark. Prance away. Listen now, You've officially stepped over the line. Okay, that's it. And at least they tell her in this show, you know, we don't like really have to explain it, but what the is wrong with you? She's made so many comments that are veering where it's like, is she, is she saying that? But now with her full on prance away, that's actually, you can right off, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin commercial.

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[Ben]

Yeah, it's. It's just gross, you know? And yes, Mark has been coming for her, too. But, you know, the difference is Mark says, well, I heard she's an actress and she's being fake. Okay, that's one thing. But then your retaliation is really. Well, I hear his family kicked him out, won't speak to him. Yeah, because he's gay, you homophobic little witch. You know, what's wrong with you? Who said, like, who goes that low? So I don't think that he heard that. I think that he heard that she said that, because of course they told him. You know, they tell. Especially Missy. She's running around tattletelling on everybody. So I'm sure he heard that. And he's like, I don't want anything to do with this homophobe, you know? So he's not going to talk to you. He's not going to give you some confrontation on tv, and you're not going to get it. And if he's. If you don't like him making catty little comments about you, then learn how to do it. Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie]

Marco, just. This is. Yeah, she just really sucks.

[Ben]

So learn how to fight in the arena that you're in. You lose her, you absolute. You absolute loser of a human being. And then you do exactly what we think you do, what you're gonna do, you turn into a crying white lady and start your little tears like you're the victim of everything. And Start saying panic attack and using your VICT cloak of panic attacks and mental health and all this other. You're just a nasty, nasty witch.

[Ronnie]

And, like, the really. The crux of her argument is that you're saying things behind my back. It's just like, lady, this is. This is. It's small potatoes. Everyone's telling you to get over it because everyone's like, yeah, like, it's fine. Move on. She will not. She's fixated on this and she's being.

[Ben]

You've also been doing it the whole time to him and everybody. You say things behind his back all the time. You started off the season by calling Dara a prostitute and spreading that rumor around that came from her and then taking Dara's place when Dara ended up leaving the show. So, please, with. You're talking behind people's backs.

[Ronnie]

By the way, someone on threads, I. I, like, posted something like, oh, my God, Ladies of London. So good. And then one person responded back saying, the first two episodes were good. And then it's been boring ever since. I was like, you're Dara, aren't you? This is Dara. Who is. Who's messaging me with their finsta, right?

[Ben]

It's Dara's friend from that restaurant. Like, we will not talk about Dara behind her back.

[Ronnie]

You're the only person who believes the first two episodes were the best episodes and the rest were boring. The only person who would say that would be Dara or her friend.

[Ben]

So Mark just walks away. And Martha's like, oh, God, come on, Margo. It's like, prance away, Mark. What? He is weird.

[Ronnie]

He is.

[Ben]

And saying, mark, don't go. It's time to leave. In fact, it was time to leave 10 minutes ago.

[Ronnie]

And so he is trying to sort of like, you know, have this dignified exit, but he is actually in a maze right now, and he can't figure out how to get out of the maze. And he's like, I've spent 15 years going around this maze, and the one time I need to make a swift exit, it actually works. Bloody hell. And you just see him, like, trying to be like, how do I get out of this maze?

[Ben]

He's walking. He's like, I'm leaving. Okay, I've hit a wall.

[Ronnie]

I will try back again.

[Ben]

I will. Damn it. Damn it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, because those garden mazes are really simple because they don't have a lot of space to become confusing. But I guess if you're in a tizzy, it's just the hardest thing in the world.

[Ben]

So now Margo comes back and Margo's like, he just walked away again. Oh, well, he's fuming. He's fuming. Yeah. And he goes, I will not have a confrontation with you. And I said, well, why are you so obsessed with me? And he said, darling, who wouldn't be obsessed with you? And I was like, you're fucking weird.

[Ronnie]

Lottie's like, but that's a joke. Margo's like, but it's weird. But again, let me emphasize, it's a joke. I was like, I don't like that if you're upset, but I also don't think it's that serious. How many times do people at higher stations in life have to tell you to shut up before you actually shut up?

[Ben]

And Micah, Margot, Margo, my best etiquette advice is stupid girlfriend.

[Ronnie]

He doesn't banter with me. Martha's like, because you're scary. You just went in. So confrontational. And it was not nice. That wasn't nice. Shouting across the garden is confrontational. Like, why would you shout. Why would you even shout like that?

[Ben]

You should whisper. Like when I said, shut up, you dumb.

[Ronnie]

Marco did say at one point, which he was a sort of. A fair point at the top of the episode, she's like, you know me. I wasn't shouting. I was just. I was speaking to him. But Kimmy's literally screaming, shut up, you fucking bitch. Across the garden. No one gets mad at her, like, but she's funny when she does it. She's funny and has a fake British accent. Everyone loves Kimmy. That's the difference.

[Ben]

It was also retaliation when you escalated it in the first place, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So you started the screaming. So you raised it to the screaming level and you brought it to that level, ma'. Am.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So Martha's like, oh, I've handled this so badly. That whole shouting across the garden thing, I mean, that was my fault. It was my fault. Hard blink. Hard blink. And Mark is now leaving in a van. I mean, geez, he really is out of there. So Margot gets up to get her coat because no one's on her side. She's like, I lost this one. And Kimmy's saying, it's inappropriate. It's inappropriate. Why does my friend have to leave and I have to be stuck with her? I don't want to sit with her. I mean, she's boring. I mean, that was just unreal. Like, I thought we were having a nice time.

[Ronnie]

Here's the thing.

[Ben]

We are.

[Ronnie]

We are having a very Nice time. And if you guys are feeling upset about this, I did bring some puppets. So if you'd like to sit back, I would love to teach you all about your etiquette in puppet form. Is that okay with everyone?

[Ben]

Oh, God. If we're gonna stick our hands up anybody's asses to teach them how to behave, start with Margot.

[Ronnie]

I think that we're just sort of going in circles, literally. Mark is still working on that maze, so you want to check in with him? Yep. He just. It's back at the start again. Okay, to the. Try the. Try the right this time, Mark. Try the right. Okay. We'll see how it goes.

[Ben]

I found a com quad. All right. Officially taking the wrong left again. All right. Maybe we should just go to our rooms and have a little rest, right? So they get up, and they all go to get some rest, and Emma's like, well, who wants to take this bott of Jim and Kim and Martha start fighting over it. I want it. It's mine. Give it to me, you dumb hooker. Give it to me.

[Ronnie]

So they go back to their cottages, and Margot and Micah and Lottie, like, Margo, like, climbs through the window to get in because they forgot their key. And. And then they're just, like, laughing about that. And the other one, Kimmy, makes this omelette. And, like, this was before we learned that she went to culinary school, because the one of the first episodes, she was, like, in her kitchen cooking a bunch of clams in a pan. And I was like, oh, it's just not a sight you really see on Bravo is just cooking clams in a skillet. And now she was, like, doing some omelette work. And I was like, what's going on with Kimmy that she can get in front of a stovetop and do fun things in the skillet? And then we find out that she actually has a background in this. Like, this woman just gets better and better to me. I love her. I'm obsessed with her. I need to be her friend when

[Ben]

the world is collapsing. If you make an unctuous omelet, you know, something baboose. It soothes all the edges. It really does makes the world a better place.

[Ronnie]

And I love that when she describes it, she puts her hands in the air and does, like, jazz hands. She's, like, babbles. She, like, sticks her, like, claws out. Like, there's something that's quiet baubles about it, and it does look like a really good wet omelet. Like. Like a nice, beautiful, sumptuous one. It's like, well, I feel bad, you know, my daughter is really upset because I'm gone. So she's like, where are you? And I was like, I'm getting drunk somewhere. Daughter

[Ben]

mine is really upset, too. Yeah, well, I know. She's like, why are you leaving me? And I thought, oh, God, she doesn't understand. I told Amadeus, you gonna miss me? And he said, no. He got that.

[Ronnie]

So then. Then they're like, eating this omelet. It's, like, dripping everywhere. Oh, that's actually a really good omelet. That's been so long since I've had an omelet that didn't have little magpie feathers in it. So then the other cottage, Emma's like, hello, I'm here to check in, because as the hosts, I'm obligated to make sure that the American feels okay. Margo, are you okay?

[Ben]

Yeah. So Margot's just sitting there giving pouty looks on the couch, and they're all just trying to ignore her, basically. Well, left. He didn't want to have a scene for my sake, which always is not, like, my preference, obviously, but that's gentlemanly of him. Yeah. And Marco's like, well, I didn't want him to leave. I literally wanted him to come talk to me. I didn't want him to leave. Well, he didn't want to have a shouting match. Well, no, he'd left because he didn't want to have a conversation.

[Ronnie]

And Emma's like, well, all he ever said to you is, like, about your boots or whatever, America. It wasn't the comment. It's the feeling you have when you're being nice to your face and, you know, you turn around and they're laughing with other people. It's very uncomfortable. It's like, well, you have to deal with that then. This is. Well, this is you. You have to deal with. You can't. You just have to deal with how you're gonna. Like, it's not nice, sure. But also, like, you're an adult and, like, just move on.

[Ben]

Look, I mean, here's. Here's the thing. Margo's dead to me, but I see what Margo is saying. I mean, there is, like, a level of cattiness. She's not one of the popular kids. And now that she's not with the popular, literally laughing in her face, like, they're standing in another click. They're laughing in her face. And I get it. But the way that she's. I get why that would be hurtful, but a. She's this didn't come out of nowhere. She's also doing the exact same to them thing to them. She's mocking them. She's mocking their voices. She's doing it as loudly as she can so they can hear her. She's trying to start fights and it's not working. And now she's getting to the point where she's like demanding them.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

To come over and fight no one. You know, I can see why she would be hurt because you're losing a battle that you're kind of a part of making happen. This didn't come out of thin air. And you don't have a right to talk to somebody. Like, just because you want to have a conversation doesn't mean they have to sit down and talk to you. You don't have that right. And you've been a dick. So I don't. Yeah, I don't blame them for not wanting to talk to you.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I understand. Like, it sucks. It sucks that, like, they're being catty or whatever, but then you're like going over and you're trying to sort of like, be confrontational and you're not like, making it better and you're just really not helping it. Like you said, you're already sort of doing it. You know, Margo sort of reminds me of like, there was like this every now and then there'd be like this, this I feel like in my childhood or like when I was teenager or whatever. Every now and then there'd be like a girl who would just be like. And I'm not saying it was a specific girl, but there'd be like, for some reason. And it was. There was like. They would come in and out of my life. They'd be like, ben, you're gay. Why don't you just like. Just like come out and be done with it already? This is sort of this like, annoying, confrontational, like, poking, like, like finger poking. And I. It was always so obnoxious. And I always could not stand when I would. When, when people. People like Margo would come into my life. And I fully get why Mark is like, get rid of this girl. I can't deal with it. Like, she is just the worst because I'm. I guarantee she. He probably dealt with Margos in his childhood as well.

[Ben]

Yeah. Marco seems like one of those people to me that is getting by on her looks and her sexiness. You know, she's always. She's always walking around and like, see through things. And she is gorgeous, but she's an actor. Who became famous from a very sexualized thing. She's married to some homely guy she met at a party in la. Like, obviously, based on her looks, she's. And that's not a bad thing. But I think she's in this situation now where she's not in a regular acting role where beauty is so important. She's not in LA where beauty is so important, and she's talking to a man who doesn't give a shit about her beauty. So she's. All of her superpowers are useless here, you know, and she's trying to. She's trying to fight with people with their superpowers, which are humor, you know, which they've had to develop to deal with, like, her their whole life. And she doesn't have it. She doesn't have the wit or the humor to deal with it. And she just doesn't know what to do, you know, she's powerless in this room. And I think it's. It's bugging her.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think that obviously he uses his humor as a way to see who are the people that he's safe around. Like. Like, who are the people who get his humor, because they're the ones that he can feel himself around, and he can't feel himself around Margot. And I think she also is testing, and she can't feel safe around him. And they are both, like, just causing this terrible vortex of hatred. So either way, everyone in the cast is like, oh, my God, this is so annoying. And. And Mark is at least funnier than Margot is, so we're taking Mark's side. So Margot is now being like, I didn't want him to leave or whatever. And Emma's like, but it wasn't that deep. It wasn't about anything personal, was it? Because I lived in England long enough to know banter, okay? Like, I know the back and forth. I see what he's doing with you. I see what he does with Kimmy. I understand. I am not stupid. So she is clearly, like, having some, like, flashback to being left out of some cool group when she was a kid, because this seems like she is, like, living out something from her childhood here.

[Ben]

Well, it's also true. It is happening. They are laughing. They are. They do have banter that they don't have with you. But that banter is earned, you know? And you don't. You haven't earned it. And you've been the same. You've been giving as good as you get, lady. Like, you're standing off at the side of Every party being like, like making Mark voice and stuff like that, like you're doing it too. And calling Kimmy a stupid drunk and everything else that you've done, you know, to act like some victim, like, they just don't like me. They don't like. They don't like you. Cuz you're being yourself. So Lott's like, but this is Mark's brand. The Brits understand what he's doing. But there's one American who doesn't understand and her name begins with an M and ends in an algorithm.

[Ronnie]

Um, it's not a British thing. They're trying to make the cultural different difference excuse of him being an. But he's just being an. I think really that Margot thought she was gonna be the star of this show. She's like, I'm famous. You know, they know me in England. I'm beautiful, I'm funny. Because she is actually funny when she wants to be. So I think she thought she's gonna be the star and she's not the star. And she's spiraling. When people think that they're going to be the center of attention and they're not, they lose their mind. And I think that's what she's going through right now.

[Ben]

And she tells everybody else there, she's like, you guys talk to him. And they're like, oh God, you know, they're Jesus commercials.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

so now it's the next morning, and Kimmy and Missy are sending videos to their kids. And then Lottie, Micah, Margo are having breakfast and no one's talking to Margot, and Margot's just pouting and being a brat. And then we go to Lottie, Margot, and Micah and Micah's like, oh, so Margot and I, we talked today. The vibe is fun. We're gonna have fun today, right? We're gonna have fun today.

[Ronnie]

That is the plan is to have fun. So then Kimmy's like the other. The other place they're having fun like, oh, my God. You know, it's. You know your boobs are real when you have to wash underneath. Am I right? Oh, my God. Please pass the blanc de blanche.

[Ben]

I'm gonna start the day like everybody should start out. Well, to shot a patron. He's like, it's like, I don't want yesterday's events to ruin Emma's plan day today. I really hope I don't come across as an attention seeker because I'm just very much myself.

[Ronnie]

So they are. The whole plan is that they're gonna be doing. Doing various activities. They're gonna go to Cheddar, which is somehow. It's actually part of the long lead estate because Long lead owns everything. Longley. Emma literally is like, she owns Cheddar cheese. Like, that is wild to me.

[Ben]

I'm sorry. This is great. This is a great neighborhood. But, you know the family that owns Munster, I'd love to meet them.

[Ronnie]

I can't believe it. They are gonna be. They're gonna split up into cars. And obviously Margot and Mark will not be in the same car. So they're getting into their black cars. And first we're with Emma, Micah, Kimmy, Martha, and Mark. Well, we're Just all with them anyway. And Kimmy is like, so, Emma, how was your night? She's like, but I went for a nightcap with them. And, oh, you know what? The one thing I did say to Margot, guys, I said, moving forward, the way that you communicate, you just need to be very careful. Because if you yell across a garden, that's not a way to start a conversation. I mean, yelling across a garden? Even my puppets wouldn't do that.

[Ben]

Not a garden.

[Ronnie]

So vulgar. Vulgar.

[Ben]

Vulgar. So now we go to the van outside with Lottie, Missy, and Margot, and Missy's like, I love you, Margo, but I did feel bad about Mark. She goes, oh, my God. I never did anything to begin with. Come on. And she goes, but you called him a freak. And so we see the flashback to last night, and then back to Mark. Mark's like, well, she told me I'm a freak, that I shouldn't touch her. Why are you so obsessed with me? Don't touch me. You're a freak.

[Ronnie]

So Margot has a reasonable excuse with not excuse. She can say, I never called him a freak. Because we see that she called him weird, but not a freak. And luckily, she totally squandered.

[Ben]

She said it was a longer quote than that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna look at it.

[Ronnie]

It. Well, it doesn't matter, because she goes, well, I mean, maybe I did call him a freak. I do find him freaky. He is a freak. I was like, oh, yeah.

[Ben]

She said he's weird and creepy. A creepy masked clown, and then told him to prance away.

[Ronnie]

Right? She never said the word freak, but she still calls him a freak. Anyway. She's like, well, yeah. So I was like, okay. Well, I. I for sure thought I was gonna be. I never said freak. I said weird, but not freak. I never called him a freak.

[Ben]

Freaked.

[Ronnie]

But she's like, no, he's a freak. Like, okay, that's. That is. That is homophobic.

[Ben]

Now.

[Ronnie]

Now you've officially doubled down. You had a chance to actually not go that path, and you've been like. You're like, I'm gonna stand in. I'm gonna call him a freak. Yeah, totally.

[Ben]

But you can't call him a freak, though. No, Let me tell you why. Because I was walking across like, no, you shouldn't call anyone a freak. That's not nice. I mean, Mark is the only gay man in the group, and it just feels like calling him a freak is just very personal. Single. Singling him out like that. You can't fight nastiness with Nastiness. I mean, I'm sure his whole life he's been called names the same way that my husband's had his whole life, being called names. I mean, it's not fun being called Helena Bonham Carter when you're a boy in the sixth grade, is it? And I just don't think it's fair, and I don't think it's kind, and I'm not on board with that.

[Ronnie]

So then Mark is like, she run after me because we're in the other, other van. And Kimmy's like, you know, you. Let me tell you something. You can call someone. I'm sorry you can't have a different sexual persuasion freak. You just can't do that. It's not PC. Well, I don't think that's what she meant, Kimmy. Oh, really? Well, I'll tell you what that means, then. Martha. Like, Kimmy, Kimmy. It's like, no, Martha. Martha. She did mean it. No, she didn't. Not Margot. She means so well.

[Ben]

And he's. He's like, martha, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna get out of this car. Martha, like, don't get out of the car. I think I'm gonna get out of the car. Please don't get out of the car. I've spent 20 years being like, a freak, okay? It's like, oh, God, I'm sorry. And he's like, I will not, in Emma's house, be run after as a branded freak. I will not. And he gets, like, weirdly emotional. And how Martin gets emotional is like in a Shakespeare play, which cracked me up. He's like, I will not. My entire life, I was like, yes, girl, go get that, Olivier.

[Ronnie]

That, for me, was the fucking line. I spent my whole life trying to deal with this. I can't even introduce my partner to my parents, okay? The person that I want to marry, I cannot even introduce to my parents. To be fair, my parents demand that we both appear as sailors. But that's besides the point when I can't even have a normal life, because guess what? It's. I'm not normal. Do you know what that is?

[Ben]

Like, Martha's like, oh, as someone completely normal, Mark, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it like that. And he's like, no, I don't want pity.

[Ronnie]

I hate pity.

[Ben]

And I don't feel sorry for myself. And she's like, okay, I'm sorry. And he's like, but is that like, okay? And Kimmy says, oh, she's a bully. A bully. So here's what I learned from this. First, Mark has emotions.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

Which was nice to see. Second, fuck his parents, but thanks for the money. And third of all, who's this partner? Girl, you better get your partner on here. What are you, Kyle Richards? Get. Get your fucking. Get your Morgan Wade on here.

[Ronnie]

It's gonna be someone in a powdered wig based on that house.

[Ben]

So it's gonna be someone. I'm telling you. This person is wearing an ascot right now. He's wearing an ascot and a silk robe sitting somewhere gorgeous.

[Ronnie]

So Emma's like, I've never seen Mark that emotional actually. And how long have we been friends for? 15 years or something? Like he's had some struggles. I still don't know all about them. So, yes, really serious. Like, that's because you guys don't ask each other, each other questions. You guys get drunk and make caddy remarks. But it's the first time you' had a conversation about your personal lives.

[Ben]

It's cold society, Ben.

[Ronnie]

You don't ask questions in the garden. So then in the. In the boring van, the Margo van. Margo's like, he is a freak. He is a freak. Babe, don't. Don't buy it. You know, cuz she's actually the last one who shares the comments because they actually come from your friends. Okay? Oh, my God. Mark said the velvet dress was the bad. But two people already shared that before you. Margo. And then something else about the outfit. And how about. And about how you have a brand and money and all this. And like this all sounds very vain. Margot. Missy's kind of like, stop it. You have to get yourself together because you're saying these things too. And also you're blaming Mark when other people are saying these things. You can't single Mark out.

[Ben]

Yeah. And she's like, yeah, we're all saying your clothes suck. And you know what? And you have brands and money and all this like that. You sound very vain. And we see a flashback to Marco going, it's a liar. Maybe you would know if you knew what clueless this was. It's like, you know what I mean? I mean, you look very vain. She's like, no, I mean, the things I'm buying are like literal artwork. Like they're archive artworks and they should be celebrated. Just like your pieces are celebrated, Lottie. And Lottie's like, just take it down a notch, darling. I mean, I don't have an aspirin to specifically deal with the sound of American. All right? It's like, oh, no, no. But you're, like, saying really mean things to me, and that makes me more insecure. And then you're like, why are you acting like this? Like, God, we're just being peaceful peacekeepers. And I'm like, you just told me extra mean that I don't need to know. Like, stop telling me things that people are saying by my bag.

[Ronnie]

They literally said nothing that was extra mean. And it also just goes to show, like, this is how, like, for as much as Margo's like, I've been in here for 15 years. I understand how it goes. You clearly don't, because you're sitting here saying, I'm wearing artworks. They need to be celebrated. Do you see the people that are around you? They don't care. They're not sitting here. They're not like, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Like, oh, what are you wearing? What are you wearing? What are you wearing? Wearing? They are just wearing their clothes. This is quite luxury you have. You have Emma, who has an enormous, giant country estate. She literally owns cheddar cheese. And you're gonna try to be like, but let's celebrate my artwork that I'm wearing. It's like, bitch, this is not the time or the place. You don't know anything about the. These people and how they. How they. Their relationship with wealth and material objects.

[Ben]

She's also arguing this whole time. Well, Mark, if you have something to say to me about my clothes, and say it to my face. And so now they're saying it to her face, and she's like, how could you. How could you. This to my face.

[Ronnie]

She's insecure about this. She is like. She. She's like. She cares about these brands that she's bought. She thinks she's being fabulous, and no one cares about them. No one cares about what she has to say. No one's laughing at her jokes. And she is unraveling because of it.

[Ben]

Yeah. So now we go over to Cheddar. And so Mark switches modes. He's like, so when did Cheddar become a property of long leads?

[Ronnie]

For a long time, actually. It's like, oh, I didn't know it was actually owned by Longley. That's wild. Emma's like, yeah, for a whole other. It's a whole other thing to manage. It's just. It's a different set of skills. Seriously. We tried to get the giraffes to make the tears, but they won't cooperate. So just more work for me.

[Ben]

Feeding koalas is not the same as Making cheese.

[Ronnie]

So meanwhile in Margot and. And Lottie and Missy's van, Margo is sort of is continuing to cry. And Miss's like, I have to pee. I have to pee. I have to get out. I'm going to e. I'm going to we. I'm going to we. So she runs out to go to

[Ben]

the bathroom because I'm crying. It's really with me. She pulls an Emmy from Southern hospitality, and I'm buying this one just about as much. So Missy's like, margo's not winning. She went too personal cuz it was impulsive. And now she thinks the whole world is against her. God, thank God for bathrooms. So she's running to the loo and then Lottie gets out of the car, just thank God, like, get me out of here. And Margot's still in there. Now we see 10 minutes later. And Margo's like, do you need medical attention? She's like, I don't know what's happening. I think I'm having a panic attack.

[Ronnie]

Shall we take you to hospital? Can. Is there any possibility we could remove you from this television show so we can enjoy this scene we're trying to shoot? Thank you so much.

[Ben]

Yeah. And Lottie's like, she's having a breakdown. Oh, God. And she's like laying in the seat of the van, like, you know, in full on histrionic mode. And so now they go sit on this bench and Wallace and Gromit, it's like this big statue, like, bookending the bench. So they sit down on it and

[Ronnie]

she's sobbing, sobbing next to this big cartoon sculpture. And like they're like, cracking. Like Lottie is cracking up like this stupid American sobbing next to this thing. And like, not even, like, not even Margot can laugh at the this. She's taking herself so seriously right now. I mean, look, I have respect for a panic attack, but it feels like this was just purely brought on by Margo. Like she's just. Just trying to get out of a tough situation.

[Ben]

Yeah, I feel like there's people who are going to be listening who are like, how dare you? I have panic attack. We are not talking about you. Calm down. I don't know you. I'm talking about this specific lady in this moment. I'm not buying this for two seconds. Sorry, I don't buy it. This is the most convenient panic attack I've ever seen. So they're like, okay, well, maybe, you know, she's like, I can't breathe. And Missy's like, well, you know, maybe it's hormonal things going on here. You did just have a baby. She's like, yeah, yeah, maybe that's it. Thank you. Maybe it's that. Maybe that's it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So the meanwhile in the fun van, they arrive and they start taking their Cheddar tour. And Micah's like, maybe it's the American in me, but I really wanted Cheddar to be from Vermont.

[Ben]

Okay, well, this is a very first of all. This guy comes running out. It's like, they're here, they're here. He's like, hello, welcome. Welcome to Cheddar. It's a very special place. It's made here in the village of cheddar since 1170. King Henry II on the throne. What was he doing making cheddar? Not like Henry viii. Oh, I got a little uglier. We wish we had given him a hobby. God, things got ugly with that one. But shut up.

[Ronnie]

Anyway, back then, they were maturing cheese in the caves, because obviously we didn't have refrigeration back then. So a cave was a natural place to keep a cheese. Well, I'm glad that someone around here is trying to be mature. So then over at the other place, this is where Margot is, like, is having her panic attack now in front of walls. And Gromit and Lottie's like, I mean, how long is this woman gonna cry next to one more Wallace and Grommet, which is just the most comedic thing ever. I'm trying not to laugh. I mean, honestly, Margo's freaking people out. There are little kids walking by. She's crying her eyes out, and they're like, what's so scary in that cave? And we do see at one point, when they're walking up towards that bench, Margot just stops and starts sobbing. And there was, like, a lady who was, like, walking up the path to, like, a tourist and sees Margo. And then it's turned around, goes the other direction. Like, I'm not going to be near the crying American. No, they.

[Ben]

Thank you. So then the other group are doing a cheese tour and talking about the milk tankers and all this stuff. And then we see Kimmy, and she's like, what exactly is the chattering process? Tell us all about it. I can't wait to hear about chattering.

[Ronnie]

Well, every time you layer, you stack the cheddar curds, and there's a process called Cheddaring. Oh, so. And this is exactly why you can call it Cheddar. Another kind of countries, because of the process. It's like yes, exactly. Judah's action. Anglo Saxon word for kudor, which means hidden place, which refers to the caves where the cheese was first originated. So it's a lot of history. Oh, well, that's fascinating. Is there an Anglo Saxon word for dumb idiot? Because that's what we're gonna call our friend Margo after this.

[Ben]

Back to the bench. Margo's like, so the producers are like, okay, I guess we'll take her back to Longley. Geez. So they put her back.

[Ronnie]

I'm terribly sorry, ma', am, but there's a. There's a law that you're not allowed to show this many emotions in the English countryside. So we'll have to take you back to London, if you don't mind.

[Ben]

You have officially gone against the Wallace and Gromit law. No crying on park benches. Sorry.

[Ronnie]

Unfortunately, Americans are only allowed to have a certain number of emotions per day. And you've gone over your quota. We'll have to take you back to the city now.

[Ben]

So Kimmy is talking about how she went to cooking school. And she's like, I know these kinds of outfits because I have to put on, like, rubber gloves and stuff like that. And it's like, I find it kind of hard. I mean, no man would say that. No to a woman that knows how to make shadow.

[Ronnie]

I love when she has her, like, little witticisms that sometimes don't even really make sense, but she sort of sells them because she sort of, like, shimmies her. Her, like, chest forward and raises her chin. She's like, no man would say no to a woman that knows how to make chatter. It's like, what are you saying? Like, I mean, no man would ever deny a woman who's ever held a dustbuster one hand and a cheese doodle in the other. Am I right?

[Ben]

So Mark's. They're like, do you like Barata, Mark? And he's like, oh, God, it's clingy and it's a lot to swallow. And I was like, oh, God, you've never said that before.

[Ronnie]

Hold on, let me do an American thing. That's what she said. Okay, you got that on camera. Congratulations.

[Ben]

This is how they say it in America. That's what Henry II said.

[Ronnie]

You know, Anne Boleyn gave the first that's what she said joke. It's what got her up in that attic in the first place. We own her. Actually, we own her. Ghosts.

[Ben]

If you think you need to go to Paris Fashion Week, think again. You need to come to Cheddar Gold's. Darling. Look at these outfits. Outfits.

[Ronnie]

By the way, Mark is having the fun. He's. He's, like, cracking up at all, like, the cheesy elements of this tour because it is a tourist destination. So there's a lot of things that's like, cheddar, gorgeous. Gorgeous cheddar. Gorgeous. Gorgeous cheddar. And he's like, oh, look, here we are at gorgeous Chatter. Look at. Look at the simple Taurus enjoying their cheddar. Is this the first time you've ever had cheddar before? Oh, welcome.

[Ben]

So Lottie and Missy are back having lunch. They're. I feel so bad. They're, like, stuck at the most depressing area in the world, and everyone else is having so much fun, and they're

[Ronnie]

like, do you think. No activity. They are eating sad sandwiches in this cafeteria.

[Ben]

Like, is Missy okay? She's like, she's better, but, you know, she has a lot going on. And so they're like, yeah, she can't really fight nasty with nastiness. With nastiness. So they try and call her to make sure she's okay, but she won't answer the phone. So instead they call Micah and tell her what's going on. And they're like, she's having, like, some sort of a panic attack in the car. We really arrived at the caves. Now she's looking. She's going back. I don't know. Please do something. Please.

[Ronnie]

We spoke to the medic on set, and they said that Margot was having an acute case of Americanness. And we thought, that's terrible. So they're gonna try to get us some medication, probably give us some Velveeta and perhaps watching some depraved television shows, things like that, and hoping for the

[Ben]

best she has tonight. I state some just generica states of anitis. Please, please help her. Missy's like, yeah, I told her it wasn't cool. You were shouting across the garden, and you go and call him freak, and that's not okay. And she thought we were, like, attacking her. And Micah's like, oh, wow. Oh, geez. Are you okay there, Micah? Oh, darling. What's wrong, darling? You're right, darling. Well, I'm okay, but I just got a call that Margo's unwell. Does she have a case of Otoitis?

[Ronnie]

Did she trip? And I was like, oh, how unwell? And she's. Well, she had some sort of, like, severe panic attack. I think she's been triggered by everything. Oh, so you mean that she Sad.

[Ben]

Oh, God. What's triggered? What Is this a foreign language, please? Is she sod? Is that what you're saying? She's so.

[Ronnie]

So Martha's like, oh, will you guys excuse me?

[Ben]

He's like, don't bring me that triggered. We're not doing that here.

[Ronnie]

Kimmy doesn't give a. So Martha is like, excuse me. Excuse me. So Emma is like, well, I hope that she's all right. That was a joke. That's what she said. And that she was me. So Kimmy's like, oh, yeah, well, I hope she's all right. Or whatever. So Martha's like, trying to call Virgo, but Margot is not taking Martha's call because we knew this would happen. We knew that Martha was gonna get burned because she's in the middle of this feud, and she's trying to play both sides. And I think that, like, you know, I think Kimmy has been pretty good about when she's been frustrated with. With Martha. Martha's sort of like, on the fence. Roll with this. She just said it right to Martha's face. And then Martha's defended her position, and Kimmy's like, well, whatever. I saw Lavia, but what I. And then they just get on with it. But Margot, of course, now is gonna make Martha feel so bad. And I think it's.

[Ben]

Yeah, it is. And I've thought this whole time watching this, you know, Martha is going to bat like this for her, but Margot would never do this for Martha. And we've even, like, at the beginning, which is like, I won't be your friend if you don't get your shit together, Martha. Which I get the sentiment because I've been friends with people who were a mess, too. And you're like. Like, you know, get it together. But at the same time, like, someone who's going through it, you don't just be like, I have to back away from this friendship if you don't get it. It's like that girl's cut and run the second things go bad. So Martha's fighting to the mat for her, but will Margo do the same? I mean, Margo just used you to get on a TV show. And as we've seen many times on these shows, that never lasts. They always betray your ass.

[Ronnie]

Well, Margo's also going to try to pull the reality star thing of, like, you have to have my back. If you don't have my back, then we're not friends. It's like a really, really annoying thing. I don't know if it's an American thing, but it's just like a tire. Some, you know, cliche on these shows. Like, you don't have my back. I mean, cuz what we will find out is that her issue is that like, yes, she defends me, but then when she's with me, she's always critical of me. So does she really have my back? It's like, oh my God, get over it.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's a child. So Mark's like, oh God. Even our cheese tasting is about her. I've got too much for me. I can't take out. I can't. God. So Martha's just distraught in the background, listening to voicemail over and over. And then we go back to Missy and Lottie and L's like, you know, I'm gonna have to throw this crystal away because I bought it with me two days in a row and it's done, Jack. I mean, it's supposed to protect me, but it's made everything worse. Get rid of it. And then Missy goes, damn rocks.

[Ronnie]

Don't yell. Don't yell. Near the garden. So now we go to the Longley Giraffe paddock. And now we see all these giraffes and they do it. They shoot it in such a Jurassic park style because they all get out of their cars and then like look up and like clutch their chest. Like, oh my God, it's happening. It's like. And then we see these beautiful giraffes and they're like, they're very, they're. I mean, they're very affected. They're like, like intertwining their necks. They're like, yeah, I love that when

[Ben]

they're standing like this, like their necks

[Ronnie]

are crossed, like, look at us, we're doing formations. Yeah. There shall be no yelling in our garden. This is the giraffe paddock.

[Ben]

Oh God. Rothschild giraffes are so endangered. And to be so close to them, what a magical experience. And look at their lashes. So the least profound thing I could say about a giraffe.

[Ronnie]

But still.

[Ben]

And Martha's like, oh, the eyelashes. God, give me their eyelashes.

[Ronnie]

Rothschild giraffes, they have these long white socks on and they're just so glamorous. I bet they know how to make some cheddar, don't they?

[Ben]

So they're feeding them leaves and they won't take, they won't take it from Mark. But I think it's because Mark's like, o, do you want it? He can't have it.

[Ronnie]

Do you want it?

[Ben]

Can't have it. I was like, that one of Those things is about to headbutt. You don't with the giraffe.

[Ronnie]

The giraffe's like, stop prancing around this garden and give me the leaves.

[Ben]

Hey. He's like, give me the leaves, freak.

[Ronnie]

Wait a minute, wait a second. Has Marco been here? So then Martha, Martha's like sad and Missy's like, have you spoken to Margo yet? And Margo's like, I've messaged with her and is she okay? I don't know this person. It's this defensiveness that's come out. She's not doing herself any favors. I don't agree with the way she's been behaving. Margot back in the day was the life and the soul of the party. She was so funny. She was so sharp and everything was a joke. And now she takes even a joke so seriously. Yeah.

[Ben]

She's like, who is this person that I'm friends with? And so now we go back to Longleat and well, we're going back there. There. Lottie, Micah, Mark, Emma are all in a van together. And Emma's like, well, is Lottie all right? And Mark says, oh, God. Exactly what we were concerned about. Lottie. Mike is like, have you felt stress levels? And she goes, well, I did step away because I just thought, oh God, I don't want my child to get infected with whatever. That americanitis is awful.

[Ronnie]

I was a bit stressed, I must admit, but mainly because I was thinking, could we ever someday do a three piece suit for a Rothschild giraffe? That would be a triumph.

[Ben]

She accused us of saying that we were coming at her and bullying. Oh God, bullying again. So now you're bullies too? Everyone's a bully. Yes, we're bullies too. But I was like, you know, when you don't get your way, you start crying. Oh, she had to play the victim again.

[Ronnie]

Margot has done everything in her power to come across as very slightly self confidently, a very self confident lady. Why would she care what we think then? It's absurd if this is a charade.

[Ben]

And did you see that he was on watch what Happens live last night with Kush Jumbo, who I love love. So he was on there with her and apparently was really good. I'm actually going to watch it later.

[Ronnie]

I saw a clip, a brief clip. Yes.

[Ben]

One of them is Andy saying, didn't you feel bad that she like had a panic attack and all this stuff? Like, did you feel guilty? And he said, well, I would have, have. But then I saw the text thread where she was Bragging about having an Oscar winning performance the next day.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Ben]

So apparently she was bragging about, like, faking it and having a great scene on tv. So there you go.

[Ronnie]

So they drop Mark off at that. At his pub where he's staying. And that's also going to be where dinner is. So everyone starts to arrive at this beautiful, beautiful dinner. By the way, the weather for this weekend was amazing. They are. I feel like that's like a miracle that they had like three sunny days in a row. It just was absolutely gorgeous. Clear skies, sun. It was like magical. And this dinner with the. The little table and the trees, I was like, I need to go to Longleaf. If the aim of this was to sell Longleat as a destination, I have been. I have been sold on it. And I am gonna. I'm gonna go there. I swear to God. I am literally gonna go to Longleaf.

[Ben]

So just don't keep anything expensive in your room.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Because you can break in there real easy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So now they all get ready and go to dinner. And Margot has left. She has left the trip. And Mark's like, no note. This is almost as bad as screaming in a garden. He's like, no note, no thank you, goodbye, nothing. And Emma's like, oh, God, she laughed. And she didn't even leave a note.

[Ronnie]

She just evaporated. Well, it's a bit of a relief. I hate to say it, but it's like, at least we'll have one evening where it's like, no drama. Oh, my God. Finally a fun night. So anyway, does anyone want to know how someone else died in my family?

[Ben]

Oh, thank God. Thank God. I prayed to King Chadder today. I'll get rid of her. I'll get rid of her. I say.

[Ronnie]

Well, I'm assuming that she went back to London. Someone drove her there. I hope she didn't spread her Americaness around the countryside. And Lottie's like, well, I assume so. Well, she didn't walk. We're not that desperate to leave. She took a giraffe.

[Ben]

And Martha, meanwhile, Martha's like, oh, my poor Marco, what's happened to her? So they have appetizers and they start something. Something's something served on a crumpet. So they start joking about crumpets.

[Ronnie]

And, oh, you're, you know, you're really. You're really in England if you have a crumpet. Oh, darling, you're a crumpet.

[Ben]

So they toast to Emma for giving them a wonderful vacation. And Kimmy's like, and I also want to say, mark, I'm really proud of you. He's like, what, being honest? No, it was just nice to see a part of you. It was so vulnerable. I love seeing it the way that you're miscreant. Please don't. Please don't discuss the way that you are feeling things. Please don't accuse me of that. The way that you have so many emotions coming out of your soul. Don't accuse me of having a soul, please. You're going one step too far.

[Ronnie]

I just was glad I wasn't the only one this season who made a total fool of herself by shedding a tear.

[Ben]

Am I right?

[Ronnie]

Whoa. I was able to keep the woodworks behind. You're the one who failed on this one. Oh, I guess you're right.

[Ben]

And see, it's like. Well, when you feel comfortable, you can emote, apparently. Well, I also think it's difficult to hear things. It might have triggered things in your past that have been. Get that. I said triggered. Stupid. American 2 can play at this game.

[Ronnie]

And I've been with you for it, and I respect you for it. And I just want to say cheers to you, to your beauvais little ass. Beauvoir. Ass. Bavarian ass. Whatever that French term is about omelets. That's you right now. Cheers. Cheers. Hufflepuff.

[Ben]

Well, some of us are just made of toffle stuff. So they cheers again and was like, oh, my God. Mark actually showed that he was a human this week. It's unbelievable. So they all thank Emma. They go around the table thanking her, and Kimmy says, yeah, not all my friends have Rothschild's roths. You know,

[Ronnie]

it's interesting because it's such a foreign concept for me to be so open. Literally forest. It's American. It's a strange feeling. It feels good, but also a little scary. And maybe at this point in my life, it's about time I did this. There you go, Americans. Now you have something that you can run with. I'm going back to my Rococo home now.

[Ben]

So he orders the pigeon, and they're like, oh, my God, that's gonna remind Martha of Hecate. And she's like, martha's not having the best time.

[Ronnie]

Not Hecate.

[Ben]

So we just see clips of them. I mean, it's like clip after clip, and they're just laughing and having a good time. Time, which is so rare on these shows. It's fun to watch, but it's not a lot to talk about because they're just, like, having fun and laughing.

[Ronnie]

It's just literally they are just there enjoying each other's company and all they want to do is crack jokes and. Yes. And each other and just get drunk and have a good time. And it was like actually such a joyful scene full of true mirth that it was contagious to watch. Like I was sitting there, there chuckling along as if I was sitting at the table. It was just delight. What'd you say?

[Ben]

Isn't mirth sadness?

[Ronnie]

I thought mirth was happiness.

[Ben]

Think it's sadness? Oh, it's amusement. God, my English is terrible. Every time I ask you, I'm wrong. But you know, I do learn. I do learn. Throughout these recaps, I thought mirth was sadness. Her clumsy attempt to cut the cake was the cause of much mirth.

[Ronnie]

This. I'm. I'm like upset that I can't remember Kimmy's word that she used for the omelette because I've heard it before. But I just V. Oh, you know what's so funny? When you write B eggs comes up. I wonder if that's because of Kimmy. Oh, no, it's actually, it's called omelette bavo. It refers to a traditional French style omelette that is fully cooked on the outside, but creamy, moist and slightly runny in the center. I love it. Is there anything that Kimmy can't do except, you know, being in touch with her emotions?

[Ben]

Getting lit at longleat is old fashioned. It's actually mandatory. All right, tell me your weird experiences. Am I living in this house? Because it's got to be haunted. It's like, well, I was lying in bed and I felt like there was someone there. And then I just felt it on top of me. Oh, my God. Like someone was holding you down. I love that. Can I share that room for the night? I would love that.

[Ronnie]

Look at. Someone's on the ghost. To my room, please. Yes.

[Ben]

So then Mark is like, oh, God, I loved that pigeon. It's one of the most fabulous beasts I've ever savored.

[Ronnie]

Breasts, if you will, in fact. Oh, well, because you've saved money, Mark. They're all just cracking up. But poor Martha, she can't enjoy it because she has a friend who's making her feel like right now. Now instead of being like, I'm going through it. Enjoy the rest of your time. We'll talk when we get back. You know, Margo is doing this thing like I'm blocking you. That is. It's such a manipulator. Exactly.

[Ben]

It's a full on manipulation what a 100.

[Ronnie]

So they're having, like, the best night ever. Truly a wonderful, magical night. And Martha's, like, clearly sad and she's like, I'm still bumping about Margot. They don't know where she is. I'm having a lovely time. And, you know, when everyone's calm, there's no drama, but I think there's a collective sigh of relief, quite frankly. But it does put it down on my night.

[Ben]

So now, Lottie. Thanks, Emma. It's like a lot of thank you speeches to Emma. And then she's like, but I would also like to invite you because it's our turn to host you all. So here I've printed out some flyers to our fashion show and like, oh, thanks, Castle. Castle. And days of food and wine to going to see your fashion show. I mean, I'll come, but maybe don't compare it.

[Ronnie]

What a lovely middle class activity for us. So.

[Ben]

And then I can't wait to celebrate all these people who have things called jobs.

[Ronnie]

Wow. It's like being amongst the London gentry. So then they're joking about fashion and Mark is like, oh, you're very good at modeling. Cheddar cheese. Oh. And we see the video again of them modeling, and she's like, well into the morning. It's not over yet. The fat lady has not sung. And she's like, well, I'll sing later.

[Ben]

So now Martha's like, I'm so stressed about Margot. And she's like, darling, she'll be all right. I mean, what does she think about how you feel tonight? You know, if she was your friend, she would say, you know what, Martha, I had to leave and I had to think about it. At least send you a message saying, I won't. All right? But instead she has, you're worried. It's ridiculous and selfish. And you know something? You deserve so much better. So much better.

[Ronnie]

Kimmy's right. And again, this is where she emphasizes things. Where when she says ridiculous, she, like, swats the air. It's ridiculous. I just love her and how she. How into it she gets. So now it's one week later back in London. So Micah shows up at Margo's house. And Margo, of course, opens the door like, hi.

[Ben]

Like, okay, I've been having a panic attack all week. Hi, thank you for coming. I know you've got your big event and you haven't seen your kids because you're away. I'm sorry to take this time away from you. She's like, oh, no, I'm happy to Be here. I've been thinking about you non stop firstly. So what happened? She's like, I don't know, like, have you ever had a panic attack? And she's like, yeah, actually.

[Ronnie]

Oh, okay. Thought this was gonna be kind of like a Margo has a panic attack scene. But if you say that you've had one too, that's fine. Anyway, by the way, maybe you're having a panic attack because you can't afford the £60,000amonth you owe on this place. But that's besides the point. Margo's like, well, I just have never had anything happen like this before. I mean, you know, so I was. I mean, afterwards. I mean, there was no after the panic attack. The panic attack lasted for days, which was really scary. I mean, I couldn't get good sleep. I couldn't regulate. It was just really awful.

[Ben]

Well, someone said at some point that maybe it could be postpartum. She goes, yeah, well, there's definitely that. Yeah. And, you know, your body's changing in your brain. Yeah. I'm not, like, knowing who you are, and people are like, you'll never be the same again. And I'm like, okay, but, like, this is unrecognizable. And then she goes, it's postpartum, isn't it? Micah's. Micah's attitude with this is funny because she's just kind of like sitting with her. Her hand, her head in her finger.

[Ronnie]

She's like, I thought Micah was being a very good friend. She was.

[Ben]

I think she was, too. But you see something ticking back there. It's like, you're full of.

[Ronnie]

Yes, yes. Micah is really good about giving you a concern face. Like, I'm listening right now. I'm an etiquette teacher. This is what proper etiquette dictates. But you can tell on the inside. She's like, this is. Especially when Margo goes. And the absolute worst part. Part, the one thing that I thought about every time the panic attack would come on was Martha. I was like, okay, okay, so now

[Ben]

we're gonna blame Martha for your panic attacks. Yeah. When I really started to think about it, you know, like, Marcus, Martha's defended me to everyone. Like, she really has. But when she talks to me, she's not, like, supportive to me. Oh, my God. You are an. You are an. Everybody agrees. And now you're going to turn it on this person who, you know is in a weak spot and going through it.

[Ronnie]

It.

[Ben]

You're a horrible human being. Get your panic attack out of here. I don't even want to hear it. And anyone who does have panic attacks or does suffer with stuff like that, you should be mad at someone like this who's completely using this as fodder to get her way, like a child.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And especially because, as you brought up very sagely earlier before, Margot totally employed tough love with Martha in what I would actually argue is a more delicate situation, which is looking through your old items of your old life when you were wealthy and stuff from your sister who has passed. That is such a vulnerable place to be in. And Margot came in with super hot tough love. And then here she is being saying, like, well, she's not supportive of me. And then all we see is clips of Martha giving her tough love, being like, you shouldn't act this way. Like, as your. As your friend, you should be this way. And Margo would be the first person to be like, well, I would give tough love because as a friend, that's what you're supposed to do. And Martha does. Does it to Margo. And Margo's like, she's not being supportive of me. It's like, you know what? Shut the up. You're wrong.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's ridiculous. So then she's like, you know, And I'm like, martha, I don't have a problem with Mark. They have a problem with me. Well, you know, maybe it's that she's in the middle of two friendships, and neither are going super well. And then we go to Martha, and now we see Martha's makeover. Her. Her home.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And it looks cute. It looks really cute. It turned out great. Yeah, she turned out great. And then we even see Hecate's, like, little place in the attic. They've put the plane in the attic. And he's just yelling. She's like, darling, you want to come see Mama? And he's just, like, stretching out, like, I'm staying on my plane. But then he eventually does come down and sits right on top of her head.

[Ronnie]

It was the most amazing image of Ecatee just sitting on Martha's head. And, like, the places, like, filled with flowers. I mean, you know, what I love about Martha is that she has such a defined personal style. I always respect people so much who are like that. And it just was. It felt cozy in there. And I like the way she described it. She goes, oh, God. Well, my grotto just started to look a little bit like my home. It's chintzy. She's, like, so happy how chintzy it is.

[Ben]

And Kimmy's on The phone with her, and she says, oh, it's kind of a fresh start for you. Like maybe a new platform. Oh, God, the birds on your head. Head. The birds on your head.

[Ronnie]

And you actually really see how big Hecate is. Like, it is on her head. It is a big, tall bird, and she just has it on her head.

[Ben]

So Martha asked if she's spoken to Mark or Margot. It's like, no, but I've been really busy since I got back. But who I'm worried about is yo. I'm not worried about her. I'm worried about yo. She says, well, Margo's not speaking to me, and I'm not quite sure what I've done. I don't know. She seems pretty cross with me right now.

[Ronnie]

I just still can't get hold of Margot. She's blocked me. I can't. I don't know where she is. I can't get a hold of her. She's blocked me. My messages are not going through. Oh, well, I would not worry about that woman. I think she's full of. I can't blame Mark for being annoyed. And so then we go back to Margo's house and she goes, well, I guess the. This freak thing really triggered Mark somehow. Mike is like, yeah, I've actually never seen him like this before. He said growing up, he was teased. And, like, this was, like, one word that apparently the other boys used to use to tease him. Because, you know, I don't know if you realize he's gay. And when you call a gay person a freak, it sort of has, like, a lingering effect. Well, that was never my intention. I never meant to hurt him in a deep way. I'm like, that's what Mark has been saying all this time about his stupid commentary about your boots and your crushed velour.

[Ben]

But the thing that's coming into my mind right now, like, if you were bullied, then how can you bully me and hurt my feelings and do all that? Oh, God.

[Ronnie]

Do you not know about how bullying works? People who are bullied, they usually just go and bully people.

[Ben]

But he's also not bullying you. He's not giving me a break. So Micah's saying, you know, my thought is, if you're in the wrong and you can't see it, and other people trust. Tell you, trust me, you're in the wrong, then you should listen, you know? But I don't think Margo's ever heard that. And Margo says, well, hurt people, hurt people. She goes, yeah, I know it seems impossible, right? Now. But you. You should, you know, away from everyone else, go have a coffee with Mark and go in with love.

[Ronnie]

And Micah's like, yeah, Margo used her words without thinking, you know? And sometimes the biggest thing you can do in life is say, I'm sorry, Dara. I'm sorry. I mean, Margo. So then Micah is like. Like, what feels natural for you to say? Actually, I'm not. You know what? Let's not go with that, because I already know it's a disaster. She goes, look. Okay, here, I'm gonna write. I'll say look. She wants to start a text to Mark by saying, look. She's like, don't start with look. Don't start with look.

[Ben]

That sounds like attitude. Like, look. She goes, okay. But it's like saying, like, look, you know? She says, no, don't do that. And so Marcus says, okay, I know everybody says nice things about you, so you must be nice in there somewhere, right? No, I shouldn't say that either. She's like, no, erase that.

[Ronnie]

Just say this.

[Ben]

My words were deeply hurtful. My words were deeply hurtful, you ninny. No, don't say okay. Don't seem any.

[Ronnie]

Just.

[Ben]

If you were a burrito, your flavor would be faggito. A faggy to burrito.

[Ronnie]

Okay, Just say you found a step stool from the Jacobian court, and it has lots of gold. Gold paisley embellishments on it. And he'll be over here in a second. That's all you do. Speak his language.

[Ben]

Everyone needs an etiquette coach in their lives. So she basically writes the text for her. She sends it, and one week later, Mark is sitting with Margo. Margo's like. I mean, it's just really funny to me that every time I see you, you're like. Like, so big. I mean, you're so fake. I mean, the reason I use the word freak. I wasn't talking about you. Is your behavior. Like, you came and you touched me, and you, like, tried to be flirtatious, and he's just, like, horrified, and he goes, oh, she's a lunatic.

[Ronnie]

Has Margo not been around, like, gay British f before? Like, the fact that she's now turning it into, like, you're trying to be flirtatious. Like, ma', am, she is. You have.

[Ben]

She's. She's pulling out every trick, you know, Screw this chick, man.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And it's like, I feel like I have, like, low tolerance for these American reality shows, tricks or tactics on the show like this, because the show feels so special, and I Love. I love the British humor on the show. I love the way they all are, how they all engage with each other. And Margot just sticks out like a sore thumb, like, she just shouldn't belong here. But, I mean, she does 100 because this is the role. She sticks out like a sore thumb. She can't figure it out. She can't mix. And she's trying to do all these American kind of manipulations and reality star manipulations, and they all won't happen it. And it's great for the show because we need. It's always good to have a villain, but it's also like. Like, get out of here. You're ruining everything. But at the same time, like, she has to be here. Like, that's how shows need their villains.

[Ben]

So, yeah, yeah, I don't need Margot to get kicked off. I found Margo very entertaining, you know, through the. Through the whole season. But, God, what an ass.

[Ronnie]

It's like your instinct wants to say, get out of here. Just let the cool people hang out and talk and have a fun time. But it's like, you know, Margot is an essential part of this. Like, she needs to be.

[Ben]

She is. She is. But she wasn't originally cast. It was originally Dara. She was just going to be a friend of. And so they went with her last minute, and she is moving along. Drama. But I don't believe shows need somebody to move around. Phony panic attack kind of drama. I don't know that that's what they need. I think if they do come back and they do get rid of her, they should get another bridge Brit who's really catty and funny because they don't need another whiny American. I can't. And I like Micah and I like. Kimmy, obviously is one of the Americans, although I guess she's kind of on the cusp. Right. But they need, like, another really catty Brit. Not a Lottie, not a Missy, someone like. Like a female version of a Mark.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that, like, yeah, it's. I like the contrast of Margot being there. I like how she's making me so angry, and I like how there's like, oh, fuck this person. But I agree that the. It's just like the. The reality show tropes that she is sort of leaning into when this show has been so refreshing because it's not been about. That is, like, very frustrating. Like, I would like to not have that. I feel like she's sort of poisoning the show. But it seems like the rest of the cast is like, yeah, not gonna allow this. Like, we're not gonna bend to your knee. And that makes me happy. But I guess we'll see what happens next week. And, yeah, fun times.

[Ben]

Time will tell. I can't wait for that scene between them. He's just like, oh, she's a lunatic.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

It just dawned on him like, oh, I've been fighting with a crazy person. It was like that moment in Real Housewives of New York where Kelly was going crazy on scary island and Sonya was finally like, guys, we're fighting with somebody who's not even with us. Like, need to stop. This is like, it's getting to the point now where it's not fair.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So, all right. Thanks, everybody, so much for being here. We will talk to you next time.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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