#3340 Summer House S10E13 Part Two: Hit Me Hard and Soft

Summary

Watch What Crappens #3340 – Summer House S10E13 Part Two: “Hit Me Hard and Soft”
Original Air Date: April 29, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie continue their signature mix of comedic recap and analysis on “Summer House” Season 10, Episode 13—specifically covering the second half. The focus is on the aftermath of a dramatic weekend, shifting relationships, the launch of Carl’s Soft Bar, and the ongoing fallout among the housemates—especially Kyle and Amanda’s troubled marriage, shifting friendships, and a round of soft openings, hard confrontations, and shady parental reunions. The hosts serve up their classic wit, side banter, and Bravo-laced shade, keeping the episode lively and full of memorable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recapping House Dynamics and Weekend Recovery

• Sierra and Jesse Reflect: The hosts discuss Sierra and Jesse’s conversation about Amanda’s absence and Kyle's uncharacteristic happiness when Amanda is away.
  • Ronnie: “He was happy he was able to be himself without Amanda yelling at him for being himself.” (05:04)
• Amanda & Kyle: The Marriage Spiral: The back-and-forth over Kyle and Amanda’s marriage continues, with hosts lamenting their repetitive, toxic dynamic and the futility of moving forward.
  • Sarah: “Their whole relationship was just her crying and him apologizing and her crying again and him apologizing again...” (16:44)

2. Fashion and Animal Tangents

• Wes’s Style: Debates over Wes’s “ragamuffin hipster” aesthetic—oversized clothes and “art teacher chic.”
  • Ronnie: “He sort of has, like, ragamuffin, hipster vibes. He puts on oversized things. It actually does look good. I think his style is good.” (03:30)
  • Sarah disagrees: “His style is terrible. He’s trying to be a TikTok teenager... art teacher from eighth grade chic.” (03:56)
• Animal Tangents: The group digresses into a tangent about armadillos, Texas, and viral animal videos, keeping the trademark irreverent and offbeat tone alive. (04:08–04:46)

3. Kyle Embracing Car Care

• California Duster and Car Cleaning: The co-hosts hilariously dissect Kyle’s obsession with his car duster, connecting it to larger-than-life Texas stereotypes and bureaucracy.
  • Ronnie: “I was like, oh my God. Kyle is such the guy who gets a giant ass brush to dust his car. Where can I get one?” (06:12)
  • Sarah: “It's gigantic. And then it burns books at the end. It's amazing.” (06:57)

4. Gossip & Sexual Innuendo

• Amanda and Kyle’s Sex Life: The rumor mill churns about their marital bedroom drought, with Jesse speculating it’s been years (“seven years!”), sparking jokes and existential worry about marriage for other housemates.
  • Sarah: “I hear that when you get married, it starts to happen. Maybe that’s why I’m so scared of, you know, marriage.” (08:43)
  • Ronnie: “Not that much less. As his smile slowly turns into the sad trapezoid as he realizes...” (09:01)

5. Back in the City: Birthdays, Parties & Grills

• Urban Flashforward: The hosts fast-forward to birthday celebrations and planning the “It Girl” anniversary, poking fun at Levi’s elaborate event planning and mood boards. (13:33–14:33)
• Grill Shopping & Confessional Outfits: KJ’s “grills” for his teeth and confessionals get comedy mileage for their speech-impairing effect.

6. Amanda’s Therapy Recap

• Therapy and Relationship History: Amanda dissects her marriage in therapy, outlining the relationship’s drama for the therapist, omitting any genuine “falling in love” moment, leading the hosts to question if they were ever truly a match.
  • Amanda (paraphrased by Sarah): “The therapist was like, Where’s the part where you guys fell in love? And Amanda just laughs.” (15:48)

7. Carl’s Soft Bar Launch

• Soft Opening, Hard Feelings: The group attends the “soft launch” of Carl’s Soft Bar—a non-alcoholic venue in Brooklyn. There’s admiration for Carl’s achievement but bubbling tension over Kyle’s Loverboy not being included on the menu—despite prior arrangements.
  • Ronnie: “Kyle tells us… not only did we discuss Soft Bar serving Lover Boy… I literally connected him with our distributor… I think he owes it to Kyle to be like, Hey bro, we’re... not going to use your Lover Boy.” (32:20)
• Hosts Praise Carl: Despite their skepticism and jabs, both hosts respect Carl’s execution and personal growth through the bar venture.
  • Ronnie: “I am, like, so unbelievably proud of Carl… He cares so much about every single detail, and he’s just, like, walking around all confident…” (23:26)
  • Sarah (joking): “Stop trying to make me believe that you’re into Carl.” (23:41)

8. Sabrina, Ben, and Relationship Meddling

• Sabrina’s over-the-top involvement in other cast members’ relationships—especially Wes and Sierra’s—raises eyebrows and elicits jokes about her role as “wedding planner” and gossip instigator.
  • Sarah: “You are too involved in these people’s relationship for someone who just entered the group. Sorry. Take a step back.” (30:36)
  • Wes (sarcastically): “She booked our wedding venue already.” (31:07)

9. The Tense Parental Reunion: Lindsay & Sharon

• Lindsay vs. Sharon (Carl’s Mom): A highlight scene is the icy confrontation between Lindsay and Sharon. The hosts debate who is at fault—Sharon for past shading and manipulations, or Lindsay for being “over-the-top rude.”
  • Ronnie: “I kind of think that Lindsay was being over the top rude… she was actively cold…” (43:08–44:13)
  • Sarah: “Sharon earned every bit of treatment that you just gave her after dragging your ass on camera all season last year…” (45:34)
• The analysis splits: Ronnie pushes for generic kindness, Sarah defends Lindsay’s boundaries and shade.

10. Danielle & Lindsay’s Friendship Fallout

• Flashbacks to Danielle’s perceived snark and Lindsay’s (in)ability to take criticism fuel speculation on their friendship status.
  • Sarah: “She can’t take it as well as she can give it, for sure.” (51:28)

11. Closing with Suspicious Coupledom

• Sierra, Wes & Amanda: There’s a growing sense of something happening between Sierra and Wes, especially as Amanda and Jesse note how fast things accelerated into double-date territory.
  • Sarah: “Wait, how do we go from 0 to 100? I mean, they’re going on a double– Wes has to be cautious…” (54:01)
  • Ronnie: “Ma’am, you’re at 160 right now.” (55:16)

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Notable Quotes

• “He was happy he was able to be himself without Amanda yelling at him for being himself.” (Ronnie, 05:04)
• “His style is terrible. He’s trying to be a TikTok teenager…” (Sarah, 03:56)
• “I was like, oh my God. Kyle is such the guy who gets a giant ass brush to dust his car. Where can I get one?” (Ronnie, 06:12)
• “Their whole relationship was just her crying and him apologizing and her crying again and him apologizing again.” (Sarah, 16:44)
• “Not only did we discuss Soft Bar serving Lover Boy… I literally connected him with our distributor… I think he owes it to Kyle…” (Ronnie, 32:20)
• “Sharon earned every bit of treatment that you just gave her after dragging your ass on camera all season last year…” (Sarah, 45:34)
• “Wait, how do we go from 0 to 100? I mean, they’re going on a double? Wes has to be cautious…” (Sarah, 54:01)
• “Ma’am, you’re at 160 right now.” (Ronnie, 55:16)

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Memorable Moments & Timestamps

• Wes’s Fashion/Malfunction and Armadillo Tangent: 03:30–04:46
• Amanda & Kyle’s Therapy Recap: 15:48
• Rumors About Amanda & Kyle’s Sex Life: 08:18–09:35
• Sierra & Sabrina Meddling: 08:16, 30:36–31:41
• Soft Bar Opening and Loverboy Controversy: 23:26, 32:10–33:16
• Lindsay & Sharon’s Awkward Stand-off: 41:30–47:10
• Amanda Realizing Wes and Sierra Are Double-Dating: 54:01

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Conclusion

This episode is a buffet of Bravo sass and schadenfreude, blending humor with pointed commentary on relationships, personal growth, and reality TV’s messiest moments. Ben and Ronnie dissect the show with their signature comedic lens, giving listeners both a play-by-play of the action and behind-the-scenes analysis of the cast members’ flaws and emotional blind spots.

If you missed “Summer House” or just want to relive its best (and messiest) moments, this recap offers incisive takes, plenty of laughs, and the signature Crappens approach—mocking because they love.

Transcript

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Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo. That we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

[Sarah]

Okay, so let's get back to the show. So KJ is talking to Dara. He's been asleep for, I don't know, 72 hours or something. She's like, are you okay? And she's like, okay, so can I ask you this? Like, the week, like, you know, how was. Was telling everybody about our title, like, because we have a title now. So, like, had everybody take that. And he's like, I mean, I was nervous. I'm not gonna lie. Especially talking to the girls. She's like, yeah, they ask hard questions. And he's like, yeah, but like, I told them that I need you to ask me the tough questions.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So great, great news from that crunch. But with them. And now in West Room, he's putting on a white sweater with black stripes. And he's like. He's like, oh, this is like a crazy outfit. But, like, whatever. I don't care. Because, like, Wes, that's his whole, like, aesthetic is he. He sort of has, like a ragam, ragamuffin, hipster vibes. Yeah. Puts on oversized things. It actually does look good. I think his style is good.

[Sarah]

His style is terrible. He's trying to be a tick tock teenager. And then his other style is like, I'm gonna see if I can bring back, like, art teacher from eighth grade chic. Like, I'm just gonna wear a poncho.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. See how here's big, weird things. But I just don't like when he wears things to make himself look like a cute little boy. When he has, like, the sleeves extra long. I'm like, that drives me, and it's like little fingers come out like a little armadillo. So. And I say armadillo because I just saw a viral video of an armadillo chasing an apple and then wrapping its body around the apple. And it's the cutest thing. And I'll send it to you, Ronnie, because you're gonna watch it for, like, 10 times over today.

[Sarah]

God, that's so weird that you brought up armadillos because I saw vultures eating an armadillo the other day on the road. Texas. I'm telling you, it's brutal here.

[Ronnie]

It's brutal. So I was gonna say, were you in St. Louis, where there's a surprisingly large amount of armadillos yeah.

[Sarah]

Armadillo's just jumping up into car grills. And so Jesse's peeing, and Sierra comes in. She's like, oh, my God, are you peeing? I almost saw your johnson. And he just rinses his hands. She's like, that's how you wash your hands. Gross.

[Ronnie]

So he's like, what's going on? She's like, yeah, my old stomping grounds this room. He's like, I'm really happy that you and Wes are friends again. She goes, yeah. Does baby feel settled in in his home now that mommy and daddy are getting along? He's like, yeah, baby feels good. Baby got back. That's not what that means. So how do you think Kyle was this weekend? Good. He was happy he was able to be himself without Amanda yelling at him for being himself. She's like, I think that, like, Sierra sort of agrees with that, but doesn't want to, like, pile on to Amanda because it's. You know, Amanda's hurt. She's gonna ride for Amanda.

[Sarah]

Yeah. Because no matter. No matter what Amanda's done. Kyle still being. You know, it's not like Kyle was blameless in that marriage, and we yelled at him a lot in the beginning of the season, and I think deservedly so. Like, even knowing all of this stuff, I would still be like, you can't call your wife a. Like, what's wrong with you? But when you're in the house with a couple that's constantly fighting, it's like, you both suck at this point. Just shut up. You're, like, wasting all of our summ, you know? And so I think she's probably on that boat, too, but she's still friends with Amanda, so she's like, I'll just not say anything over here.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then meanwhile, downstairs, Kyle is sweeping dust off of his car with this enormous brush thing. And I was like, oh, my God. Look at Kyle cleaning his car with a giant mop thing. Kyle, what is that thing? He's like, it's a California duster. She's like a California duster. Are you gross? I was like, oh, my God. Kyle is such the guy who gets a giant ass brush to dust his car. Where can I get one?

[Sarah]

I know I have one. Well, I don't have a giant thing like that. I have the mitt. It's like a terry cloth mitt, and then you can just wipe. Wipe it down.

[Ronnie]

I want the California duster. I'm surprised it's not called the Texas duster. It was so big you would think that Texas would claim it. Like, everything.

[Sarah]

It's gigantic. And then it burns books at the end. It's amazing.

[Ronnie]

California Duster is just buried under bureaucracy. You actually have to spend six months before you can put it onto your car.

[Sarah]

You have to learn how to put it together through customer service. But the government hasn't hired anybody to work at the customer service, so you can never get through to them.

[Ronnie]

Spencer Pratt is running to be mayor of that brush.

[Sarah]

So then Mia gets in bed with them and to gossip, you know, obviously. And Jesse's like, well, Kyle, like, he didn't seem upset that Amanda wasn't here this weekend. That's for sure. And she's like, yeah, I mean, he was in rare form. Like, I've actually never seen Kyle like this before.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Because Mia's only seen Kyle really at his worst with Amanda. And so Jesse's like, yeah, well. Well, now he doesn't want to talk about his relationship with Amanda, and he's just trying to table any conversation because he knows, you know, he knows himself. And he's smart enough to know that, like, anything that comes out of his mouth is just gonna be negative and cause issues in the relationship. Because you'll probably repeat it to Amanda with a big smile on your face.

[Sarah]

Yeah. And Sierra just gives another. Hmm. And let's also not forget that Sierra is now hanging out with Sabrina, and Sabrina does not like Amanda because Amanda was, you know, shady with.

[Ronnie]

That's right.

[Sarah]

So Sierra's got another ear. Another mouth in her ear. So Jesse's like, yeah, it's just not solving any underlying problems in their relationship. I mean, I don't even think they're having sex. Like, I don't think they've had sex in, like, maybe seven years.

[Ronnie]

Mia's like, where'd you hear that? From the rumors, the rumor mill. Who, Carl?

[Sarah]

They start cracking up. She's like, God, Jesse, you didn't even have to. You didn't even take any pressure. It's just like, who said that, Carl? You just gave it up right away. It's like, yeah, I hear that when you get married, it starts to happen. Maybe that's why I'm so scared of, you know, marriage.

[Ronnie]

Not that much less. As his smile slowly turns into the sad trapezoid as he realizes that this whole season he's been talking about wanting to settle down, and now he sees what that really means. So Jesse is like. He's like, yeah, I don't know. I just don't know what Amanda wants. I don't really know what Kyle wants either. And it almost seems like if they don't, like, they didn't really think about how they would like, evolve individually in the relationship over the years. But they're like. But are they like, compatible at this stage in their life? Like, or can they, like, find that compatibility again? The answer is no. They were never compatible and they never will be compatible.

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[Sarah]

So now it's Sunday, August 24th, 12:02pm Very important time. And it's time to go home, everybody. So everybody's going home and then we go to the city. I don't know what happened Monday. Anybody? Nothing?

[Ronnie]

Okay, let's go to birthday. It was your birthday, Ronnie.

[Sarah]

Oh, that's right. That was a fun one. That's drunken Palm Springs in a caftan.

[Ronnie]

That's right.

[Sarah]

Telling people how it was in the old days when Jessica Tandy was still on our screens. Yeah. Beverage farms was still on our plates.

[Ronnie]

Back in those days, we didn't have enough food to even buy a potato. So we would take a mulatto and cut it up into six pieces and hand it around.

[Sarah]

And Palm Springs denizens are like, we still do that. That's how we stay thin. It's just Palm Springs remembers. Remembers.

[Ronnie]

If I'm not gonna have a Pepper's farm thing later today, I don't know what's gonna happen. So it's Tuesday. Yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday.

[Sarah]

And KJ go to pick out some grills.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Sarah]

Which we see KJ wearing in his. In his. Yeah, in his confessional, which he's wearing with the. The army, whatever. Why can I never say that? The camo. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

It's funny because it's like he's got his girls in and obviously you speak a little differently when you've got grills in. But he like, hasn't quite figured it out yet. So he's, he's like talking like this a little bit in his, in his confessionals. He's adorable. So they're gonna get that. Now Bailey is having lunch with Levi. Oh, my God. I was like genuinely shocked that they like continued to dedicate screen time to Levi. So Billy's like, okay, this party, I need you because we're in crunch time. Levi's like, no, of course, yes. I brought a little deck, some visuals. So it's the It Girl anniversary party. And this is a big moment to showcase everything you've done. Yes, thank you. Thank you for explaining to America while we're shooting this scene. Anytime. Well, we can talk about mood boards, right? Yes, yes. Well, it's been two years since I started my show, It Girl, and I'm planning this huge two year anniversary of.

[Sarah]

Of.

[Ronnie]

And it's a celebration of me. So I guess you call it celebration of me girl, because it's it. You know what I'm saying? But it's really a celebration of the people who did so much for me and gave me these interviews. So I really can't wait. I cannot wait for my It Girl celebration party.

[Sarah]

Yeah. So now Thursday, what happened Wednesday? Nobody knows. Or was that Wednesday? Was that Wednesday?

[Ronnie]

That was, that was Wednesday.

[Sarah]

They didn't say Wednesday. They did not, did not say Wednesday. According to the show is still Tuesday. So I don't know what happened on Wednesday.

[Ronnie]

Maybe it started. Maybe it like spanned both days, maybe.

[Sarah]

So now it's Thursday and Amanda's walking her dog with Sierra and they're talking about how they want a stroller and Sarah's like, I want to put my two cats in a stroller. I'm going to get another cat. So now they sit and talk about the weekend. Amanda's like, how was it? I missed a big one. She goes, yeah, you miss all of the big ones. You miss Carl and Lindsay getting engaged, which she probably did on purpose since Amanda and. Dave popping up from People magazine. Popping up from behind the tumbleweed. Very subtle, Very, very subtle. And Sierra's like, yeah. And you missed me and west making up. Yeah, that's like why I have to stay back sometimes. Can like big gestures happen?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So how was your weekend? It was fabulous. She's like, she's like, without Kyle? Yeah. It was so necessary. And I'm like, I think I'm falling into a depression again where I'm really tired. I just sort of sorted out and I'm not feeling myself. But like, you know, we did go to therapy and we actually like went this morning and yeah, I just actually came from there. That's why I'm smiling so much. The therapist yelled at Kyle. It was great. But like, she basically says she tells her therapist, she tells us about telling her therapist about like their love story and she's like, yeah, you know, I met this. But yada, yada, we met, we went to find the relationship. Then he broke up with me, then he made out with multiple women. Then we got engaged and there was a rumor that he cheated on me. And then we got married and there's the Multiple rumors ever since, and now we hate each other. And apparently the therapist was like, where's the part where you guys fell in love? And Amanda just laughs. But I'm like, seriously, though, did you guys ever truly fall in love? Or was it just like, you got used to each other?

[Sarah]

That's. Their whole relationship was just her crying and him apologizing and her crying again and him apologizing again, and then up the same way again, and then her. I was like, it's the same thing. And guess what? It's the same relationship she's had with Wes so far, because so far we find out they've been together, but then we find out he had another girlfriend, that he was sleep this whole time. And so it's the same thing. People are patterns. Okay? If you want to. If you want a different dress, stop buying the same pattern. Okay?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Sierra's like, well, so you guys are, like, living in two different phases of your relationship. Because also, what it sounds like is that Amanda has just never, ever, ever been able to heal from Kyle's infidelity. And I think that is a. Like, putting aside everything that happened that's happening that we know about, that's like, a legitimate thing. Like, that's like a. Like, that's. It's sad. They never should have gotten married. She never. She. It was evident that she never really got over it, and she never really had a chance to get over it because the rumors keep on circulating. Things keep on happening. This is just not a relationship that really should have gone forward. They may have. They may have enjoyed each other. They may have even felt love for each other at some point, but this. It's. It was done the moment that he cheated. It was really done. In this case. Some relationships can get over that, but in this case, it should have just. It should have just folded. You know, that show should have closed.

[Sarah]

Yeah, but it's different when you're, like, 22. You know what I mean? Like, there's more. There's more. When you're 22, you're like, oh, my God, I can fix him or I can change.

[Ronnie]

Right?

[Sarah]

Like, there was more almost understanding of it then, but now to be doing the exact same thing, it's like, oh, especially when you've learned from someone like Kyle, it's. You just. That's why it takes so bad and be like, come on, man.

[Ronnie]

So that's why this is. That's why this whole scandal. The scandal has many different interesting facets, and that's why it's so Interesting because she has been on the receiving end of betrayal and she has struggled with it and she has like, it has rotted her from the inside out or it's not her. It's rotted their marriage from the inside out. Their relationship she never was able to get over. She saw how it like, really devastated that and like, so for her to be an active party of another betrayal, which is not quite the same as an affair in terms of her and Sierra, but it is still like a betrayal of trust massively. Like, it's just. It's so shocking.

[Sarah]

Yeah. So Sarah's giving her some pretty good idea, some pretty good advice actually. She's like, you know, I think you're living in two different phases of the relationship. Like, he's moved on, you haven't moved on. And you need to find, figure out a way to, you know, be mad about the same era of time, you know, which I thought was pretty, you know, good. And so she's like, okay, separate, you know, Sierra is really pushing the separation thing and Amanda says, yeah, I agree. I don't think it's a bad idea. I just feel like he would never go for it. Well, he doesn't have to. You don't have to mutually just separate leave.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Sarah]

I think a lot of this too is that Amanda is, you know, there was a TV show and we can't forget that Kyle was on a TV show and Amanda was not on the TV show. And so I think a lot of putting up with it is like, was it even worth it? You know, like I'm with this guy. The TV was like a big prize at the end of it. And now I'm stuck on TV and now I'm being hounded all over the place because I'm on tv, you know? Yeah, so there's that too. So then, anyway, I'm so sick of talking about Amanda and her marriage. At least that's done. At least now we can talk about Amanda and her shitty relationship. Yeah, fair.

[Ronnie]

Hey, you know what we should do? As long as we're talking about cookies, I should ask, do you like your cookies crispy or do you like them soft? Soft baked. Okay. Soft bar, soft. Here we go. It's hard to really describe what I've been doing, even just say what I've been saying for the past last couple years. This is a non alcoholic bar, the silver bar, sort of sports. Sports, sports, brick and mortar. But now you see it. Pure passion, the hard work. The hard work works. Told you. It's not hard for us to See what you're doing. We've been to. We've been to coffee bars. We've been to workspaces. We understand what it is. We just are concerned about its longevity. So.

[Sarah]

But it.

[Ronnie]

But to his credit, the place does look fantastic. We had looked at it.

[Sarah]

Good for him. I don't even like the guy. And I was like, yes, good for you, Carl.

[Ronnie]

No, it looks great. We looked. We looked at pictures of it earlier this year or whenever it was. Whenever it opened, actually was around. Around Labor Day when it opened. It looked great. We gave him his flowers. Then we give him his flowers again. Now I think the place looks fantastic, and I'm excited for it to grow. And, you know, it's been open for about six or seven months. Only has 15 Yelp reviews. But, like, we're excited to see that community grow around.

[Sarah]

Wait, it's been open month? I guess it has open.

[Ronnie]

Well, I mean, it opened in.

[Sarah]

It didn't open here. I mean, in this episode when this

[Ronnie]

was open, this was. Wait, so when did. When did it, like, open open? Was this. Oh, was this just, like, a launch for tv? But it, like, didn't open open until, like.

[Sarah]

Yeah, this was just, like, the soft launch, and then they had a different launch, and. But I think it opened probably around the time that season started, Right? Because that's when articles started coming out of it.

[Ronnie]

Oh, okay. When it looked great.

[Sarah]

Soft launch bar open.

[Ronnie]

I want to.

[Sarah]

I want to see more open September 18th. So

[Ronnie]

soft bar.

[Sarah]

Yeah. Seven months. You're right.

[Ronnie]

Yelp.

[Sarah]

So it's been six months. Maybe people in Brooklyn just don't think it's cool to write Yelp reviews.

[Ronnie]

Maybe it's like in Britain when I got shaded for.

[Sarah]

For writing a help review.

[Ronnie]

Remember when I checked in? No. I checked in at our hotel when we were in London when we did our show in London, and I said something like. Like, I was looking for a place had good, like, Yelp reviews, and the person at the front desk was Yelp. Do people use that? It's like, sorry. He's like, google Maps over here.

[Sarah]

That's funny. Okay, so everybody's saying hi. Everybody's showing up, and Bailey's like, oh, my God, Carl, is this the drink that makes you horny? I cannot wait to get horny. Am I flirting? And he's like, oh, well, we're developing an Aphrodis, but it's not out yet, so you're gonna have to wait for that. She goes, oh, my God. Well, I can't wait to try it. When it comes out, I'll flirt with you, then remind me.

[Ronnie]

I am, like, so unbelievably proud of Carl. I could not even imagine trying to open a bar in New York City. That is a terrifying thing. He cares so much about every single detail, and he's just, like, walking around all confident and sexy. I'm like, yes, sure.

[Sarah]

And stop trying to make me believe that you're into Carl. I'm just not gonna believe it. I think you're very, you know, you're very charismatic. You're good for the show. Just stop it. You're not even trying to sell it. She's like, wow, Carl, look at him. So sexy. Do you need me to do that again, or can I go to lunch now? Like, I'm. I'm. I've had enough. I've had enough of this soft storyline. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

He's, like, so confident walking around here. I cut to Carl. Oh, excuse me. Oh, sorry about that. Oh, excuse me. Oh, sorry. Then Ben and Sabrina arrive. Wes shows up. He's like, this is great. And then Ben and Sabrina arrive, and Ben's like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? This place looks wonderful. Thank you. Is that for me or for softball? For me. It's just so nice.

[Sarah]

Model walked into a bar that suppose you just got there. The color scheme, perfect. The materials are even better. Wow. What is that wood on the walls? Is that brick? Fantastic. Fantastic materials.

[Ronnie]

I love your decision to have a roof. Phenomenal job, man.

[Sarah]

Is that a spout that water comes out of? Well done.

[Ronnie]

Wait a second. I noticed that these ball stools actually have legs. That is a great decision. Great.

[Sarah]

Sabrina's like, oh, my God. This drink is, like, the best drink I've ever had in my life. That's, like, the best thing I've ever. It's better than even food. Oh, my God. They should build towns, only drink this. I mean, whoever needs. Who needs anything else? This is the best thing I've ever had in my entire life. Oh, my God. I love being on the show. Thank God. I've been on the show for a day. Decade.

[Ronnie]

And then kj. KJ Is there. He's being sweet, and he's like, hey, how are you two love birds doing? And Ben goes, good. It gives him a look like love birds. Why would you think that we love birds. Like, settle down, Ben. KJ Goes, what? He's like, well, it's rich coming from you, mate. Like, it wasn't an attack. Jesus.

[Sarah]

No, I think he's saying, like, you're a Love bird now, too?

[Ronnie]

Was. Yeah, but, like. But, like, why would he even feel the need to be like. But you are, too. Like, why are you being defensive?

[Sarah]

Just be like, you're calling me a lovebird. You're a lovebird.

[Ronnie]

I know. It's like, what the. What the. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm telling you, there's weird dark energy around this man, and I know that.

[Sarah]

I mean, you know that his whole thing with his. His whole thing, starting with Bailey and then going to Amanda was all really super weird energy. I just don't pick up on it every single time because, I don't know, I don't pay Ben any attention. I just find him to be a boring person. And now he's with Sabrina, so he's, like, taking on Sabrina's personality, where he's like, oh, my God. Let's find out the Go. Isn't this great? Finding out who's together? Like, what do you. What are you. Sabrina. I don't know. He's just a weird dude. I don't. I don't pay him any mind. Get rid of Ben. Get rid of him.

[Ronnie]

Well, I pay him mind because I feel like these things need to be pointed out.

[Sarah]

Well, I'm not saying I'm not sorry. I'm not dissing you for doing it. I'm just like, no, I wasn't.

[Ronnie]

Ben, just remember. Just Ronnie Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[Sarah]

You're gonna remember this forever. Do you remember that summerhouse recap where I tried coming for Ben and you said, it's not even worth my time? Well, Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[Ronnie]

You're a L. So then Sabrina's like, can I have a smooch? He's like, yes. Yes, you can have a smooch because we are in love. So how is everything? Good? We good? We good? We're good. And she's like, yeah. And by the way, have you said anything about Christmas, everyone? I'm like. She's, like, basically, like, mugging at the camera, and then the music stops. Like, he stares at her with this, like, controlled rage. Like, no, I haven't said anything about Christmas. It's like. And so then kid is like, whoa. What? What? What's happening? Oh, are you gonna be extra sensitive at that time? I will be. He's like, no. So when I bought my tickets to Australia the other week. I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Could you actually ungrit your teeth? Sorry about that. I bought Sabrina Bell a ticket as well. So Sabrina is going to come to Australia it was going to be a big moment on our social media, but I suppose we don't have to have that big moment that we had already planned.

[Sarah]

Sabrina. I'm gonna meet his mom and dad. Can you believe it? I'm so excited. She's gonna be telling everyone. Yeah. I've never been. And I'm gonna be this family for the first time. I'm so excited, like, to meet his parents. Oh my God. Nothing is gonna make me make me happier. Okay, now tell him what you told your mom about the next girl that you bring home. This is the best part. This is the best part.

[Ronnie]

Okay, well, I was saving this for scene I was planning out, but that's okay. Tell, tell them, Tell them nothing's gonna make me happier. Please. Nothing's gonna make me happier. Except for this drink. It's so good. That sort of makes me happier. All right, well, for a long time I've been telling mom that the next girl that I bring home will be something special. And well, yeah. So as you can imply, this is what's gonna happen. So KJ's like this summer took a quick turn. Like me and Ben both came in as single, single bachelors slash models. And we're like not looking for anything serious. And then now Ben's about to get married. Actually, I guess technically we both came in saying we're single, but Ben came in not single. And now he's admitting that he is not. It's crazy.

[Sarah]

So Wes comes and he's just biked over, so he's sweatier than usual. Wow, delicious. And then Carl's mom comes. Sharon Dun dun d. Sharon comes and she's like, hi, I'm not the first person that you came to see, huh, West? Huh, West. Haha.

[Ronnie]

So Sharon's there. Sharon looks very nice. She has a nice little ensemble on and cute little haircut she does have. Her hair is looking very nice. She's a nice little haircut. And Sharon's like, how are you? She's like. He's like, oh, I'm fantastic. You look great. Have you met Mia before? And Mia's like, hi, I'm Mia. She was like, nice to meet you. And she does her like little curtsy thing. That's what I. I do love that Sharon does her little curtsy every season. And Wes is like, this is Carl's mom, you know, and she's like, thank you.

[Sarah]

You.

[Ronnie]

Well, just make sure today I don't make any ill comments. And we see a flashback to last year when Sharon is like, well, you know, it's been so such craps in the breakup and all that. And she was so mean to me, too.

[Sarah]

Unless it's like, you'll be good. Don't worry. Okay. She's like, well, I got in trouble last year, so. So he's like, well, do you feel like. Like you've been able to fully let go and forgive? And she's like, not quite. So we come back to present, and Wes is like, yeah, you know, they've been getting along, and I don't know if he's told you, but it's been great between them. She goes, yeah, so I'm going to congratulate her. He's like, okay, well, yeah, do that.

[Ronnie]

So then Amanda and Kyle walk in, and Kyle, like, dang, it really came together. And they, like, he's like, looking around. They're like, oh, this is nice. And Sabrina, meanwhile, is talking to west, and she's like, oh, my God. So I literally was, like, on the phone with Sierra last night, and I was talking about how amazing and beautiful you are. And then Ben was like, all right, calm down. So I was like, oh, my God, ma', am, you are too involved in these people's relationship for someone who just entered the group. Sorry. Take a step back. I'm, like, mortified for her.

[Sarah]

Yeah, she's annoying. So west is telling us. Sabrina told me I was going on, like, a double date. And I'm like, I don't know. She was like, wes, you and Sierra come to dinner. And Sierra, like, agreed, and then I agreed, and I'm like, it's, like, too soon for that, you know? Like, we've been friends for, like, five minutes. Like, we're not date ready. But, like, yeah, Sabrina, like, booked our wedding. Wedding venue already. I mean, God, jeez. So that's what Wes says to us. But look how he's acting in the show. It's like, let's hug me.

[Ronnie]

He's like, great. Yeah. He's like, well, there's no cameras there, so I don't really want to do this date. So now west is talking to Bailey's like, hey, girly pops. And she's like, did you get us off cocktail? He's like, oh, I'm waiting. And he's like, does it have any benefits? She's like, yeah, the benefit is. It's delish. But meanwhile, Kyle's looking around, and he's like, wow, I can't believe how much progress he made in the last two weeks. And that is a reasonable time for you to be impressed with the progress I'd like to add not a year. And Amanda's like, it's crazy.

[Sarah]

So they look at the menu over a menu. Yeah. And there is no soft lover boy.

[Ronnie]

So at first you sort of think like, oh God, Kyle's being such an egotist. Like not everything has to have lover boy Kyle. But Kyle tells us that they. He says, not only did we discuss soft bar serving lover boy non elk, I literally connected him with our distributor and things were sent motion for me to show up and there's just like no lover boy. And I'm like, damn. Now Carl is under no obligation even after that to continue to decide to move forward and stock lover boy. He's under absolutely no obligation. But I think he owes it to Kyle to be like, hey bro, we're actually not going to use your lover boy. Especially if Kyle is thinking like, I can't donate my own money, but I can donate maybe some lover boy. I can help with like some of your inventory here. I mean, Kyle is also serving on like the board of directors or something for this soft bar. I think it's a little crazy that Kyle finds out that his product is not being featured at the moment that he walks in and not ahead of time.

[Sarah]

Passive aggressive. That's what Carl serves best. So he's like, I don't know if this is punishment for not investing, but commercials.

[Ronnie]

Here comes one right now.

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[Sarah]

So now Sierra comes and you know, saying how beautiful it is. And everybody's like congratulating Carl and stuff.

[Ronnie]

Stuff.

[Sarah]

And then we see Georgina and Lindsay. I don't. Georgina, I guess is on the new show. The summer whatever. The. The city. So they come in and they're walking down the sidewalk and Georgina's like, oh, wow, look, there's soft bar. And Lindsay's like, are we in like the like warehouse district? This was just. Yeah, it's Brooklyn.

[Ronnie]

This was a full on like second coming of gallery girls when they sent what's her face? Why am I blanking on her name? We. I'm so bad at this. She even came to our shows, but she went to Brooklyn. They like, like her boss sent her to Brooklyn to pick up art and she went to Brooklyn and she was like, oh my God. She like called her like her boyfriend. She's like, I'm in Brooklyn. I don't know what. Dude, there's broken glass on the sidewalk. Get me out of here.

[Sarah]

Georgina's like, yeah, it's Brooklyn. Okay. It's Greenpoint. Like I'm too old to leave. I'm too like, I can't leave Manhattan.

[Ronnie]

That.

[Sarah]

But like here we are going to a bar where I can't drink anything. Sounds fun. This is like, yeah, we're going to my ex fiance's sober bar.

[Ronnie]

By the way, Maggie. Her name is Maggie. How could I ever forget drinks with her? I'm just a failure.

[Sarah]

I don't even try. No notice. I didn't even try. I was like, oh, gallery girls. Girl, that is so scrubbed from my brain. I don't even remember last week's summer house. And we're talking about the show right now.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Sarah]

Okay. I'm not gonna remember a gallery girls

[Ronnie]

has merged with my DNA. Yeah, like Elliot.

[Sarah]

So Lindsay's saying, yeah, it Took like a two years after our breakup, but here we are. He's actually doing something that deserves my attention. I'm gonna prefer my juices to have alcohol in them at this moment in time, but I'm gonna go support him and his 25 fruit drinks.

[Ronnie]

It's so nasty. But I laughed. I laughed. I feel like, you know, I think as an ex, you are entitled to have a snotty moment here and there. I thought that was. I don't know. I was cracking up at her. She's like, I came down to Brooklyn to have something non alcoholic. Great.

[Sarah]

So she goes up to Carl and saying, hi, girl, I got you a gift. You have to open it right now. Is it a loop? Oh, I love the boo boo. Although I don't really approve of their faces. They're hard. And she's like, no, it's like a teddy bear, because, like, you want something soft. So, like, if you need a hug, you can hug the bear.

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[Ronnie]

He's like, oh. And we see a flashback to hug me. I just want to hug right now.

[Sarah]

Hard, hard.

[Ronnie]

Put your weight in me. Too hard, too hard, too hard, too hard, too hard. So it's a cute little teddy bear. He puts it on this little, like, he purches it on this thing, and he's like, oh, wow, we've got 115 people here tonight, so it's been a process, but. Huh. Well, this is off opening. He's like, yeah, it's a private soft opening and the grand opening September 17th. So we got another two weeks. Oh, that's a hard opening. Yeah. I wish that opening could just hug me hard.

[Sarah]

Oh, love the terminology. Love that you said hard. That was really good, Lindsay. Like, you're really coming in here with terms. Love that Jordan is like, oh, my God. A hard opening for soft bar. Wow.

[Ronnie]

Wow. Someone please get me back to Nomad.

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[Sarah]

Do I miss Lindsay? Like 100. 100. I know. Like, I miss our friendship. You know, miss the car that I, like, helped buy guy that Lindsay now drives.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Sarah]

Miss it. But at this little moment, like, the teddy bear, like, even if it's a little backhanded or silly or whatever she's going for here, like, it means a lot to me. So thank you, Lindsay. Like, I appreciate you coming. Your feedback, believe it or not. It's like, while we're standing here right now, you know how you said brick and mortar is for losers? That's why we're here. So thank you,

[Ronnie]

y'. All. Thank you. She's like, okay. And Georgina's like, yeah, Soft Bear. Okay. Yeah, live up there. Okay. That's cute. That's so cute, Carl, that you have in there. Okay, Carl, we'll see you. We'll see you on the spin off. Oh, what spin off in the city. Oh, I'm not familiar. Okay, we'll talk to you later, Carl.

[Sarah]

So then Andrea comes, and Carl's like, oh, my God, I didn't know you were coming. He's like, oh, Lexi.

[Ronnie]

Oh, Lexi.

[Sarah]

And, yeah, it's like a reunion of Summer House people. They're just all there. And then we get a speech from Carl. He's like, guys, sometimes it rains and it's winter outside, and the rain freezes and it's hard and people fall down. So I wanted to have a place where people could, like, come, like, celebrate things being soft like water should be. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

Please welcome my angel investor. This Naggy's bear. It's not his cut over here. It's actually a very nice speech. He talks about, you know, he. He. He gets tribute to various people who have passed due to substance abuse and how the. Their survivors have, you know, basically built this bar together. And it's a very lovely speech. He talks about how his brother is an inspiration. And. And he also tells us, like, you know, it's. It's bittersweet for him because Soft Bar wouldn't exist without his brother passing and how he would burn down all of Soft Bar, just have his brother back. But he also feels like his brother is watching over him and guiding him to a safer place. It's. It's very lovely. Lovely. It's very, very sweet. And Luke is there like, oh, I'm so sad. I'm praying. So then this is why I believe

[Sarah]

in lower taxes for the inner city. What does that have to do with anything? I'm gonna be in Congress. Thanks. So, Lindsay, what's her buns? The mom, Sharon, is tiptoeing closer and closer to Lindsay because she wants to talk to her. And Lindsay's like, oh, my God, Carl's mom is here right behind me. She's like, oh, my God, is she near me? I feel her presence coming up behind me. The last time I spok Sharon the weird text she sent me a month after my breakup. And then we see the text is like a Dear Lindsay, I know I've not reached out to you since everything happened. Please understand I do care for you and want only the best for you. I hope you're taking care of yourself, Sharon, which was nice. And Lindsay's like, why Even send that.

[Ronnie]

I thought it was, like, a very nice tag. She didn't have to send that. And it was very nice. Why would you even do that? My goal to keep my distance and avoid. I think that Lindsay's just, like, not comfortable with maternal love or something, because that was for reasons that she has spoken about before. She was like. So Sharon's like, well, excuse me, whoever I'm talking to, I have a young woman I have to speak to that I haven't spoken to in a long time. Lindsay. There she is.

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[Ronnie]

Her hair is so short. She's got my hairstyle. Wow, that's. That's really nice. So Sharon starts, like, going through the crowd. She's like, excuse me. Excuse me. She's, like, poking through. She's, like, trying to get through. And I was like, oh, God. And Lindsay sees her approaching, and Lindsay's doing a thing. Like, I'm not going to acknowledge this woman until she forces me to acknowledge her. I'm not. I'm just gonna pretend like, I don't even see her. So then finally Sharon's like, excuse me. Tap, tap. Excuse me. Hey, for someone who just had a baby, you look spectacularly good. I was like, thank you so much.

[Sarah]

How are you doing, Lindsay? She's like, good. It's like, congrats.

[Ronnie]

What do I get? A hug? Oh, Sharon, don't ask for a hug. You and Carl love hugs. So then Lindsay gives her this hug, like, ew. Like this side hug, like, gross.

[Sarah]

I love hugs. I love your hair. It's like, thank you. So how's the baby girl doing? Like, she's not walking yet, is she? Unfortunately, probably not. Or she probably walked away by now, I don't think.

[Ronnie]

Pretty much. Well, that's crazy. Not gonna be a lot to work on here, Lindsay. Can we. Come on. I'm just trying to be nice. So Lindsay's like, yeah, she's a real go getter, like her mom. Well, that's good. We need go getters. Yeah. And she's slightly mean, just like me, right? And Sharon. I actually love this from Sharon. Just slightly mean. Well, you are you. I felt like Sharon deserved, like, she. I think that shade was. Was earned by Sharon. Lindsay was being totally cold. I know that Lindsay wants nothing to do with Carl or his family. I get that. I know that like. Like the mom called Lindsay, like, a little bit mean, but I'm sure that Lindsay probably was a bit mean. And I. I kind of think that Lindsay was being over the top rude. Like, I. I do believe, like, that like she doesn't have to be best friends with Sharon. She could just be like nice like so lovely to see you. Congrats to your son and move on. Keep it cute. I thought Lindsay was being very disrespectful.

[Sarah]

Sharon is an. And I'm not gonna forget that Sharon was doing all of that stuff on camera with Carl. Like making Lindsay out to be this huge monster and abusive other that she was doing, you know, and like Carl's just an innocent sweetie and you need to get away from Lindsay and Lindsay's like, I mean Carl, that's like abusive and all the that she was doing on camera, it wasn't just saying Lindsay was mean. Because I remember that season when all this was happening and Sharon says I just, I remember just finally saying off Sharon. Like I finally just had it with Sharon. She's so manipulative and the way she does every. And I. Lindsay knows what's coming. She knows what this lady is doing and she's not going to get for an inch. And I loved it. If Sharon wanted to do anything for Lindsay, she should have sent a text that said Lindsay, things got out of hand. I overstepped and I'm sorry. That's all that she needed to do. But this like I'm just gonna pretend everything's okay and then come make passive aggressive remarks. I mean something passive aggressive was going to be coming from Sharon no matter what. And Lindsay knew it. So she wasn't going to give her a damn inch. So I say you go Lindsay, Sharon. Sharon earned every bit of treatment that you just gave her after dragging your ass on camera all season last year and helping her son to make you look like a pariah because he was too much of a to have any kind of conversation with you. So you.

[Ronnie]

But also like what was Sharon being fed but from. From Carl. Like a mom's gonna defend her son too.

[Sarah]

That's true.

[Ronnie]

I remember last season being annoyed with Sharon as well. I remember feeling like frustrated. I felt like she was co signing on stuff and I did feel some manipulative things from her her. But I also feel like Carl was actually playing them against each other cuz that's his favorite pastime is playing the women against each other.

[Sarah]

That's true.

[Ronnie]

And I feel like Carl was probably. I think Carl was feeding Sharon like oh well, Lindsay's so mean to me. I could barely. I was paralyzed. So like a mom's gonna defend her son. And I think that in this case Lindsay's literally going to Carl's event. Sharon's going to be there. She's on their turf. Like, if you're not going to be nice to them, if you're not, like, don't show up. I understand. She's got to show up. It's summer house. She's probably be obligated. She needs to get her scenes in. But I don't know, I just think that like. Like, why is she not like what you. How you feel about Ben. Which is to say, you know what? I am not gonna pay. I don't care about this woman. Hi. So great to see you. Thank you so much. Congratulations. I'll see you around. And you just keep it moving. But she was actively cold. And I think that she kind of. She started it with a passive aggression. Sharon was being nice. Nice. And Lindsay was the person to be like. I guess. I mean, right? And so when Sharon goes, well, you are you and that's what's most important. To be yourself. I thought that shade was so funny.

[Sarah]

I thought it was funny too. I mean, I think that. I think, you know, you're disrespectful to someone's mom. Yes, I see that. But Sharon earned it. And if she wanted Is like I said, if she wanted any more from Lindsay, she owes her an apology. And that's it. And that's just how Lindsay is.

[Ronnie]

Is.

[Sarah]

And I like that. Lindsay's like, I'm not going to give this woman her moment. Because look at Sharon, you know, this house Sharon. So she's just like Carl. She starts the whole thing like, well, guys, I guess I better not say anything. Gone trouble last time. See how it goes with Lindsay, you know, she's like setting it up to be this.

[Ronnie]

She does.

[Sarah]

And I love that Lindsay doesn't give a. Lindsay knows that she's gonna made out be. Made out to be the biggest bee in the world and she doesn't care. She's like that lady. I'm not gonna give her her movie moment.

[Ronnie]

I loved it.

[Sarah]

She didn't know her.

[Ronnie]

I mean Carl definitely. Like we see where Carl gets it for sure. But I just think that Lindsay could have still been more respectful regardless of the situation.

[Sarah]

Lindsay's a Lindsay and I love it. Lindsay is unapologetically herself.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Sarah]

And Sharon was right. Like, okay, well, I guess being used important. And Lindsay's like, that's right. Bye. Have a nice one. Have a nice life.

[Ronnie]

So then she's like, well, glad I got to see you. Yeah, good to see you too. Enjoy. Take care of yourself. You too. So Sharon goes back to wherever she had been. And someone says, how was it? Not good. And sharing.

[Sarah]

She's like, no, You weren't that one sucker. So then Jesse, KJ and Ben are talking and they're talking about Jesse's outfit. It's like everybody loves it. Then Amanda and West are talking. So Amanda's like, so Saturday went well, well, well. It probably couldn't have gone any better than it did. She's like, that's good. I mean, it was just like everything we should have talked about, you know? So that was good.

[Ronnie]

Hey, guys.

[Sarah]

Me, the husband. Okay, can I just drop. Can I use drop? Are you guys talking about there's no like, lover boy here? That sucks.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. It's just like everything we should have, like, you know, it's like I tried to fill around what happened, but she was just like, be quiet, Kyle.

[Sarah]

Just let him talk, Kyle. God.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, I just didn't, I didn't want to eavesdrop without giving some background, you know. No, we're good. Like, you're good. Like, so we were on like the dock and they all came later and like got out of the car and I was like, oh, I wish Amanda was getting out of this car. Cuz I was like, we should like, with him and do something, you know, like, something like that. Yeah, it was hilarious. We were all up and they both go, it was like so good. It was like hilarious.

[Sarah]

Oh, I'm so happy, Amanda. So then Danielle is there as well. So she goes up to Carl and she's with Owen, her boyfriend. That's how you pronounce his name. Someone told us in the comments. Eoin. It's Owen. So Danielle's like, oh my God, this looks so good. It's like exactly how it's supposed to look like. It's so good of you. Did you pick your outfit from an app?

[Ronnie]

And then Lindsay's looking around and she's like, oh, I mean, this is like a reunion of reunions. We got Luke, we have Danielle, we have Andrea, and I don't think there's anyone else here from previous seasons. Like, Emerald's just in the background again, just like talking like, Emeril was in so many shots. So Kyle's like, oh, I haven't seen Danielle yet. Yeah, I mean, it's you. You may not recognize her because she doesn't have many of that Long island railroad hair that she gets when she

[Sarah]

gets off the train. She's not carrying her Windows laptop today, so you might not have recognized her. Well, when was the last time you saw her? And it's been a long time. And was it a falling out or just a ghost? Like, it wasn't really a ghosting, but, like, I watched a show like everyone else and, like, her confessionals were, like, brutal after brutal. So.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So she was mad because Danielle was being snarky in last season's confessionals, which, you know, Lindsay's like, not. Not happy with people who are snarky or say things about her.

[Sarah]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Even though she is so cutting. I mean, she literally just got up there and like, like, was like, oh, well, Car's. Carl's like, serving fruit juice or whatever.

[Sarah]

His fruit drink.

[Ronnie]

She's like, so mean. And then like, when someone says something like light shade or snarky, she's like, I'm not going to talk to them ever again.

[Sarah]

Yeah, she doesn't take it very well, that's for sure. I remember when we met her years ago, like 10 years ago or whatever. She hooked up our afterparty for our New York show at Pizza Peach. And she came and I was like, oh, hey, Lindsay, nice to meet. And she's like, by the way, what you said about

[Ronnie]

sort of like just

[Sarah]

reading the riot act first, and I was like, I was just kidding. She's like, whatever, whatever. And like, she. I mean, she. She can't take it as well as she can give it, for sure.

[Ronnie]

I know, but that's what makes her Lindsay.

[Sarah]

But that's what makes her Lindsay. Exactly. You either love her or you hate her.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think we all love her at this point, regardless of flaws, regardless of how rude she's being. It's just Lindsay. So Danielle is like, the thought of having. Oh, we. We just see some flashbacks to what? Some first snark, whatever. It's like, not really that essential. So Lindsay's like, I just have, like, such limited time to even see my friends and do anything, like, ever. And so, like, I just don't need negativity or friends that I feel like I just, like, need to compete with me all the time. So it's just like, not the kind of, like, friendship that I want. So, like, stop competing with me. Danielle

[Sarah]

was Gabby at this thing. Why wasn't Gabby here?

[Ronnie]

I did not see Gabby. I don't know what's going on with Gabby.

[Sarah]

So then got a storyline for in the City. Danielle and Lindsay fallout. So Kyle immediately goes over to Danielle and he's like, so I guess you and Lindsay hate each other now with that? And Lindsay's like, I got to go. So she leaves and Kyle's like, yeah. So why she hate you? And Danielle's like, well, you know, she was upset about like, I don't know, like how things were set on, I don't know, the Carl situation. And you want to grab her because she's like running out, so you should just, I don't know, you should maybe chase her or something. Listen, the longer the silence continues, the harder it is to break it. And then before you know it, you're married for 10 years and like, no one will even support your DJing in the living room.

[Ronnie]

But then Lindsay leaves, so. Oh, well, I guess we'll have to see how this is resolved on in the City. Starring Danielle and Andrea and Georgina and Lindsay and Kyle. Wow. I mean, talk about a soft launch. So then Jesse and Amanda are talking and just like, hey, are you feeling recharged and ready for the weekend? She's like, no, it's like, of course, but I'll be ready. It's only Wednesday.

[Sarah]

I can't believe you missed the squashing of the beef with west and Sierra. It's like, yeah, I can't believe I missed it either. And now they're like hanging out after this. It's just Wait, tonight He's like, yeah, just wait. They have plans. Not one, but like, yeah, like Sabrina. Not one on one, but Sabrina texted me. Cuz we talk now. Yeah, she's crazy. And she's like, ben and I are gonna have drinks with west and Sierra. You should come. Like, I haven't talked to west about it, but like, yeah, I guess they're back to like normal friends who double date now. So.

[Ronnie]

And this, this was truly the moment where I started to say, oh, maybe something has been going on because she looks shocked. And it wasn't shocked, like way now. They went from being like not talking to like hanging out. Like, like she looks legitimately like, ooh. Like I wasn't told about this in a way that felt proprietary.

[Sarah]

I also was talking to West. She was just talking to west. And of course west didn't mention this.

[Ronnie]

I also, by the way, I also thought it was funny when Jesse said, yeah, Sabrina texted me because I guess we talk now because I think that Loki, he thinks that she's crazy. I do, I do enjoy when Jesse, who's always smiling and happy, go Lucky secretly does not like someone one. I think that's like a fun vibe.

[Sarah]

Yeah, well, he's been pointing out like, so wait a minute. So they weren't dating this whole time, but now she knows everything from the house in like 24 hours. What the is going on? You know, so he knows that something's fishy here. So Amanda's like, wait a minute. But that's not just friends. And he's like, yeah, it's like a double date, right? She's like, wait, how do we go from 0 to 100? I mean, they're going on a double. West has to be caught. What's going on here? He has to be cautious about her feelings. Yeah. Because I don't think she could really handle just a friend ship, but we'll see.

[Ronnie]

Talk about, like, even if nothing was happening here, you're. You are talking on camera about, like, wait, how do we go from zero to 100? Ma', am, you're at 160 right now. Yeah, so.

[Sarah]

And she's like, I don't think they could just. I don't think she could handle a friendship. Then why have you been trying to get them to be friends? Amanda, that's not what you mean. You see what's going on, and you know, you're already being. You're already being cheated on.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Well, to be continued. Sort of. We'll see what happens next week. Next week the fight is gonna happen. Or at least it'll start and then it'll probably say to be continued, but. Oh, so fight. Soft fight happening next week in the house. Can't wait. So excited for that. Thanks, everyone for being here. Be sure to get your cabaret tickets. Speaking about in the city, if you're going to be in New York, get your cabaret tickets. And there will be a streaming option to too. So just check out the link that is on our social media and it will be on our website if it's not there already. Bye, everyone.

[Sarah]

Bye.

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