#3343 RHOBH S15E20 Part 1: A Reunion For The Books

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3343 RHOBH S15E20 Part 1: A Reunion For The Books

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: May 1, 2026

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Overview of the Episode’s Main Theme

This episode of Watch What Crappens dives into the first half of the much-anticipated Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) Season 15 Reunion Part 2, as recapped by Ben and Ronnie with their signature blend of sarcasm, giddy shade, and Bravo fandom. The hosts meticulously (and hilariously) dissect the ongoing drama between the cast—particularly focusing on feuds involving Kyle, Dorit, Amanda, and Bose—and analyze Bravo’s most chaotic friendships, business clashes, and allegations of fakery, hypocrisy, and cult-like businesses.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Andy vs. Dorit: The Ongoing Tension

• Andy Cohen's Frustation with Dorit:
  Ben and Ronnie point out Andy's barely contained annoyance with Dorit’s antics at the reunion.
  • “Andy really cannot stand Dorit. We’ve known this for many years…” – Ben (05:32)
  • Ronnie laughs at Dorit sassing Andy but notes, “She probably won’t have a job for much longer, but whatever. At least go down in flames, girl.” (05:50)

2. Kyle’s “Fake Divorce” & Accusations of Inauthenticity

• Criticism of Kyle’s Divorce Narratives:
  Both hosts mock Kyle’s repeated storylines about her marital issues, questioning the authenticity of her public cries.
  • “Watching Kyle cry about her fake divorce for the fourth year in a row… You are dating this country singer, ma’am… Stop lying.” – Ronnie (06:48)
• Fashion as Satire:
  Ben jokes about wearing a dramatic collar in fake “solidarity” with Kyle’s reunion look. (07:26)

3. Business Battles: Bose vs. Amanda

• Debate Over “Losing Money”:
  Confusion and shade abound as Bose tries to clarify what she meant by losing money on business ventures.
  • Ronnie: “It’s fun watching Bose argue, even if I don’t know what she’s talking about…” (08:34)
  • Ben tries to clarify: “She’s saying, ‘I would lose money if I made those videos.’” (09:54)
• The CMO (Chief Marketing Officer) Tenure Debate:
  The hosts research CMO tenure data live, debunking Bose’s implication that “short-term” is the norm.
  • Ben: “‘It didn’t feel totally accurate that a CMO would only be there for, like, a few months…’” (09:54)
  • Ben references Ad Week data: “Average CMO tenure is 4.1 years amongst S&P 500 companies… the 18-month CMO narrative… is misleading.” (25:40)
• Cult Accusations at Amanda:
  • “You said Amanda walked away from a cult just to build one herself… She’s a fucking idiot who built her own cult. That’s it.” – Ronnie (11:31)

4. Manifestation Business: Is It a Scam?

• Hosts’ Skepticism:
  Ben and Ronnie question whether Amanda’s lucrative “manifesting” courses are exploitative.
  • “You’re telling people to pay you $1,500 or $3,000 to take a class… It just feels like crockery… Full on con game… Do you need to spend $3,000 to learn how to manifest?” – Ben (17:05)
  • Ronnie: “But listen, if there’s a sucker willing to pay it… what are you going to do?” (17:51)
• Housewives Pile-On:
  Erica (Jane) tries to draw a line between financial empowerment and cult mindsets, to which the hosts offer biting comparisons.

5. Sutton and Dorit: Hypocrisy and Deep Dives

• Sutton Called Out for Hypocrisy:
  • “Sutton, do you remember that you said you were going to do a deep dive on Amanda and sign up for her courses?” – Ben (20:15)
  • The hosts snark on Sutton’s “deep dive” being just reading an LA Times article, emphasizing production’s influence on what gets researched. (19:56)
• Loan Allegations:
  Sutton is accused of digging up rumors about Amanda’s alleged $2 million loan.
  • Ben: “Am I also making it up that you told me Amanda took out $2 million loans before filming…?” (21:08)
• Erica’s Shade:
  • Erica: “I’d love to take out a $2 million loan. We know it’s going to take a little more than that.” (22:16)

6. Housewives Support (Or Lack Thereof) for Each Other’s Business

• Kyle vs. Dorit Feud Recap:
  • Dorit feels unsupported by Kyle in her business venture; Kyle whips out text receipts to defend herself.
  • “I have things to say. There was Buco di Beppo, your bathing suits… By the way, Kyle has a little bit of a point here…” – Ben (30:10)
  • Ronnie: “They all had to sit through Halloween to see Kyle’s five seconds, too. At least Pepo, you got carbs.” (30:37)
• Text Message Drama:
  • Kyle presents texts to prove she did acknowledge/‘support’ Dorit’s book event, sparking more debate. (32:40)

7. Amanda, Rachel, and the “Ghostwriter” Book Drama

• Rachel calls out Amanda for comments about Dorit using a ghostwriter, which Amanda apologizes for (45:34), with everyone growing exasperated by the constant one-upmanship.

8. Break for Lunch: Enter Kathy Hilton & Jennifer Tilly

• Arrival Hijinks:
  Kathy’s arrival is an event in itself, as she brings a mountain of random items for production to carry. Jennifer Tilly is far more low-key. (47:49)
  • Ben: “Someone at the Kathy Hilton estate has to start investing in… boxes. You just hand over one big box with everything in it…” (48:08)
• Fashion & Diet Nonsense:
  • Kathy claims to have had a “last minute change” due to a “jello, baking soda, vinegar, and human piss” diet she apparently read about on AI/Facebook—assumed to be a product of elder-Facebook “AI-slop.” (49:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Andy and Dorit
  “Wow, Andy really cannot stand Dorit.” — Ben (05:32) “She should say… at least go down in flames, girl…” — Ronnie (05:50)

• On Kyle’s Marital Drama
  “Stop with the… If you don’t want to talk about it, fuck, fine… Stop lying.” — Ronnie (06:48)

• On Amanda’s Manifesting Business
  “You’re telling people to pay you $1,500 or $3,000 to take a class where the gist is like, if you pray on it, it will come. It just feels like crockery.” — Ben (17:05)

• On Sutton’s Hypocrisy
  “It doesn’t count if you do a deep dive on poor people. You have to, to make sure you’re safe.” — Ben (18:38)

• On the Housewives' Business Clashes
  “The only business venture that I’ve had since renovation 5 years.” — Dorit (mocked by Ben & Ronnie) (30:02)
  “Excuse me. I have things to say. There was Buco di Beppo, your bathing suits…” — Ben (30:10)

• On Kathy Hilton’s Arrival & Diet
  “Someone at the Kathy Hilton estate has to start investing in this new thing called boxes…” — Ben (48:08)
  “It was… jello, baking soda, vinegar, and human piss. But it completely messed up my system…” — Ronnie (49:57)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:32 – Ben and Ronnie on Andy’s clear distaste for Dorit at the reunion
• 06:33–07:26 – Kyle’s never-ending “fake divorce” storyline and fashion shade
• 09:54 – Confusing debate on what “losing money” really means in Bravo businesses
• 11:31–12:17 – Cult accusations and defenses around Amanda’s business
• 17:05–17:51 – Hosts’ verdict on the “manifesting” business as a possible scam
• 18:38–21:24 – Sutton’s hypocrisy around “deep dives” and loan rumors
• 25:40–26:23 – Ben fact-checks Bose's claims about CMO tenures using Ad Week data
• 30:37–32:40 – Dorit and Kyle bicker about support for each other’s businesses
• 32:40–36:26 – Text message drama: receipts, tone, and how to interpret politeness
• 45:34 – Rachel calls out Amanda’s “ghostwriter” shade
• 47:49–49:57 – Kathy Hilton and Jennifer Tilly’s wild arrivals and wardrobe/diet comedy

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Tone and Style

Ben and Ronnie display their signature irreverent, campy, and Bravo-literate attitude throughout the recap. Their humor draws from a mix of sharp observation, character impressions, and ad-libbed “mini-scenes” that lampoon the Housewives themselves. They alternate between deadpan fact-checking (e.g., CMO facts) and theatrical mockery of everyone’s “deepest” drama.

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Conclusion

This episode is a can’t-miss for Bravo fans—delivering gut-busting commentary on the RHOBH reunion’s pettiness, housewife hypocrisy, business scandal, and reality TV meta-shadiness. With bonus shade for the Housewives’ fashion, finances, and friendship flip-flops, Ben and Ronnie are at their best as they “mock because they love.” For the full context, listen to the episode, but this summary offers you every quotable moment and biting analysis that makes Watch What Crappens a Bravo fan favorite.

Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Well hello and welcome to Watch what Crappin, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one and only glorious spectacular, Ronnie Carab. Hi Ronnie, how's it going?

[Ronnie Carab]

Well, hello, how are you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I'm just fabulous. I'm absolutely fabulous. Two days ago we put our cabaret on sale, our first ever cabaret in New York City. And guess what? The Friday show's already sold out. There are still tickets, I believe.

[Ronnie Carab]

Sold out?

[Ben Mandelker]

What I did?

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, they both sold out. Yeah. Well, sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

How about that? But guess what? I didn't know this. I didn't know this other one. Sold out. What?

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, well there was one ticket before I came on here, so I think it's get out. There's one ticket left. Yeah, we did it. Party. So that's going to be super fun. That's New York June 3rd and 5th. So we'll see you guys over there. It is going to be both shows will be live streamed so you can get tickets for that still obviously over there. And we're so excited to come putting it all together.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, this is going to be fabulous. It's going to be so much fun. I'm so excited for this whole thing. Yeah, we're putting it together. We just have to memorize a whole bunch of lyrics. But whatever, it's gonna be a fun goofy time and we will see everyone there in New York City. Great times. Also be sure to join us on [e-mail] Watch what crappins. There's. You can read our newsletter which is Read what happens. That is free. That's on Patreon. We also have a bonus episode every week. We did Restaurant wars with Top Chef. Watch us on video with Crappings on Demand. That way you can watch us a whole week before it arrives on YouTube. So that's all the good stuff. And today we are talking about Beverly Hills. Just a reminder that on Monday we do our Amazon live stuff at 1:30 East Coast Time, West Coast Time, which would be 4:30 East Coast Time. And we also have crappy hour and wow, there's so much crap to discuss. So that will be Monday at 5:30 West Coast Time or 8:30 East Coast Time. So join us for those things today. Beverly Hills Reunion, Part 2. More fighting. The big takeaway is. Wow. Andy really cannot stand dorit. We.

[Ronnie Carab]

We.

[Ben Mandelker]

We've known this for many years and we saw. Talked about it last week.

[Ronnie Carab]

Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

He. The way he had to con. He. He hates her. He hates dorit. And she. She sasses off to him. And the way he bites his tongue.

[Ronnie Carab]

It's so funny. I love it. I mean, good for her. She should say he's. He's just gonna stand up for Kyle no matter what. So I loved it. She probably won't have a job for much longer, but whatever. I'm enjoying it. So at least go down in flames, girl. That's what I say. Her eyes are about to pop out of her head too. I mean, geez, things are about to roll across the stage. Yes, Indy. I can't even do it because I got. I got botched Botox. So like this, I won't move at all. I really got karma Botox because I'm becoming wonky eye. I'm becoming the wonky I always make fun of Andy for. But anyway, her eyes. I can't even do it because of the botox, but her eyes are just like popping all the. Like they're. Whoa, Andy. Angry. Ohga.

[Ben Mandelker]

Angry.

[Ronnie Carab]

Ahooga. That's what I've got for you, Andy. That's the answer I've got for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she is really on one. But it is so fun watching to re. Take Kyle to task. That's just. It's deeply enjoyable for me.

[Ronnie Carab]

You know what else is super fun? Watching Kyle cry about her fake divorce for the fourth year in a row. You are dating this country singer, ma'. Am. You are dating her. I do not want to hear it from you. I don't want your victim bullshit. You are dating that woman. You bought a house in Nashville. Stop with the. If you don't want to talk about it, fuck, fine. Okay. We're not allowed to out. Whatever. Whatever. We're not allowed to do that anymore. I don't even care if you're a gay if you're a gay or not. I'd prefer you weren't, but stop lying. Just stop. It's like the fourth year we have to watch Kyle pretend when she just bought a house to go live with this lady. Let's go live in your house, Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, I just want to announce I am wearing a prominent collar on my shirt today in honor of Kyle Richards and her collar and her reunion look. So it's not in solidarity. It's just a. It actually is just purely a coincidence, but I'm just gonna make it sound

[Ronnie Carab]

like it was Team Kyle. Well, that's good.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Carab]

No. Okay, so here we are, reunion part two. We pick up where we left off last week. Bose giving Amanda the business. About her business. Bose came out in Instagram, which she's pretty good at. You know, when she gets in trouble on the show, she does an Instagram video looking just gorgeous, like, okay, okay, here's what happened. Watch this clip. But here's what you really didn't understand, which is why I'm correct. So this one, the first one was her, you know, saying that the Pinocchio mask would be Amanda, where she was like, okay, I said it. I cop to it. But, you know, this one was about this business thing and how she never said she would lose money in her business. But then they showed the clips of her saying she does lose money on the videos, which we took as her saying, I do these videos, but that's not. Who cares if I lose money? Because that's not my whole business or something. But, you know, what she said on the show was, I lose money. And then Amanda repeated it, and then she said, I never said that. So that was, like, a point of confusion last week. So Buzz made a video, and she's like, well, if you'll notice, I said I'd lose money. I. I didn't say I lose money. I said I would lose money on this thing. Which still really doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but whatever. It's fun watching Bose argue, even if I don't know what she's talking about. Like, this episode, it's totally normal for a ce, A CMO to only be there for five minutes. That's just how it works in business. And Andy's like, is that true?

[Ben Mandelker]

And he was trying to be respectful.

[Ronnie Carab]

They blame you for everything. He's like, they blame the CMO for everything. So, like, you don't know, But I'm entertained.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think we're.

[Ronnie Carab]

But I'm entertained. Did I lose you, Ben?

[Ben Mandelker]

I. I hope not. I'm always here with you, Ronnie. You can't hear me. Did you unplug your headphones? Did they come loose? Did you?

[Ronnie Carab]

Yes. I got so excited with my arm, pulled out my headphone. And then I just thought you were not liking what I said. So you were just being silent over there. I was like, jeez, just blame the cmo.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think we're off to a killer start today. Go ahead, killer start. When you said you weren't sure what this meant when. When Bo said I'd lose money, she's saying, I don't make the. I don't make those videos because I'd lose money. I would lose money if I made those videos, I guess, is what she's claiming. She's clarifying it to be whatever it is, the CMO thing. I'm not familiar enough with corporate America to know how accurate that is. It didn't feel totally accurate that, like, a CMO would only be in there for, like, you know, a few months or 18 months or whatever. We'll definitely have to, you know, cross check that one.

[Ronnie Carab]

But Hazel Baker is the Chief Marketing Officer, CMO and Senior Vice President of Marketing at Uber, and she's had that job since 2015. That was one of Buzz's company. Marion Lee is the Chief Marketing Officer at Netflix, appointed March 2022. So she's been there since.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is this on Reddit?

[Ronnie Carab]

Like, no, it's Google. It's good old fash fashion. Just Googled it while I was watching this because I was curious.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow.

[Ronnie Carab]

At least at those companies, it's not normal, but I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it. It felt. It definitely felt curious. So, anyway, Andy is. Bose is clearing this up. She's like, I'm not a failure, Kitty. And Amanda's like, I didn't say you were a failure. She's like, yes, you did. But it's not failing. It's like, no, I didn't say it was failing. I said it wasn't going well. Because you said you're losing money on it. Say, well, you are promoting your business and setting up your margins to be rich as fuck.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And that is. That is not my intention. Oh, all right. Bose, you said Amanda walked away from a cult just to build one herself. Amanda, what's your response? She's like. And Bo's like, I did not say that. I did not say she walked away to build one herself. I'm saying she's a fucking idiot who built her own cult. That's it.

[Ronnie Carab]

So Amanda's like, well, I mean, one thing about a cult is that you lose autonomy and you're controlled and isolated and encouraged to not think for yourself. But my business is the polar opposite. You're encouraged. I encourage women to think for themselves and not do what they're told to do by their husbands or their fathers or the church. And Erica's like, let's a thin line.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nah, honey, you Encourage women to all think the same way about how to manage their money. And Amanda's like, no, but I. I get the idea of manifesting money is very small minded. It's only one tiny slice of the whole thing. And they're like, but it's all that you talk about is how to make money. Yeah, that's like. I thought that's like what you did, like, manifesting money. Like, are you saying, like, that's a lie? Like, I'm dead, I'm dead? Like, are you okay? Like, do you even know what you're talking about right now?

[Ronnie Carab]

It's all you talk about all the time, making money. And Amanda's like, well, praise God for it. I mean, look, again, I don't. I don't get the pile on about Amanda. Like, you think her business is stupid. I think her business is stupid. I think it's crazy. I think it's nuts that people pay thousands of dollars for somebody to tell them how to manifest. But it's not because I don't believe in manifesting at all. I do to a degree. And you know why? Because I've been reading about it pretty much for free for my entire life. Because this information is already out there and has been popular for a very long time. It's called the secret people. Okay. I mean, and I manifested something.

[Ben Mandelker]

I manifested something just today. I was like, someone should shut down Spirit Airlines. And guess what? Spirit Airlines shutting down. So they did.

[Ronnie Carab]

Oh, wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's going down.

[Ronnie Carab]

Are people sick of sitting on bicycle seats and leaning up against a wall to fly?

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[Ronnie Carab]

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[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, I don't get it. Like, she's manifesting. Who cares? I think if they were really being honest, they would say you're tricking people because manifesting is stupid.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what they really should say. Like, I don't know why they, they have not been able to just say, we think that you are a crook because you're forced, you're, you're getting, you're telling people to pay you $1500 or $3000 to take a class where the gist is like, if you, if you prey on it, it will come. And it's just, that just feels like crockery. It's not even preying on it, it's manifesting. You just think really hard about it. It will come. It's. Well, it feels, it feels like a full on con game. Okay. Yes, we all, I mean, we like to think like, oh my God, I'm manifesting it. And I, I'm not going to discredit, discredit it from people who believe in it. But also, do you need to spend $3,000 to learn how to manifest? That just seems outrageous.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, that's the thing. But listen, if there's a sucker willing to pay it, then, you know, pay it. You know, what are you, what are you going to do? Well, what are you going to do?

[Ben Mandelker]

What you do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?

[Ronnie Carab]

But yeah, especially when you've got Erica, like, well, that's a very thin line. Erica. You actually, like, your husband actually ripped off so many people. So for you to be. And that's all the money that you've been living on since we've been watching you. So for you to be like, oh, really? Where'd you get your money? Really, Erica, you just. Marco, Marco, look up the Marco. Marco case. Get out of here, Erica. So Amanda is asked if she is writing her book or if she's finished with her book. And she's like, no, I just finished writing chapter six last week. So it's pretty good. That's, you know, AI is taking longer and longer.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know, I know. For someone who was like bragging about how she was like, she's like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna write right now. I mean, it's been a long time. You've only written six chapters since then. So Andy's like, all right. In Italy Sudden had an issue with Dorit doing a deep dive on Amanda's history. But, Sutton, you earned the nickname Fancy Drew for your tendency to deep dive into other people's lives. Is that hypocritical? Well, okay, it doesn't count if you do a deep dive on poor people. You have to, to make sure you're safe. So I regret the insinuation that I'm doing deep dives on fellow wealthy people.

[Ronnie Carab]

Which lives did I deep dive on exactly? Are you fucking kidding me, Sutton? Give me a fucking break. We all watch the season we brought up. You did that deep dive by reading an article in a newspaper about me. We all saw it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, read.

[Ronnie Carab]

You read every line of a newspaper

[Ben Mandelker]

article you got beyond word 230. Okay, so that's like kind of a deep dive for us. Like, I read the LA Times. That's all I did. There's nothing deep dive about it. You know, they're like, wow. Did you follow the continued on page six? I did. It's a deep dive. It's a deep dive.

[Ronnie Carab]

Why don't you stop investigating me? So Sutton's like, we were all asked to read the same article, and I didn't do any more diving than that. So I think that's interesting because basically, she's making it sound like production was like, okay, everybody get up. The LA Times has written an article. You all need to read it. And sudden seal when he read it, she's the only one who did her homework for that day.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mm. She's like, so Sutton's like, you know, it's just. Oh. We get a flashback to her talking about that. We come back to the present, and Sutton is like, yeah, we were all asked to read this. Okay, can I say something? Sutton, do you remember that you said you were going to do a deep dive in Amanda and sign up for her courses? I still want to say something.

[Ronnie Carab]

No, I don't. Can I say something? Shut up. And we see the clip of Sutton saying, I don't see how she made this business that makes that money. Like, I don't get it. And I'm going to take her classes. I want to see how it works. I won't see what people are signing up for. My expectation is to make $500,000 a month. Well, you're already doing that. Pretty much. What, are you going to get another divorce? You're already bringing in three. Wouldn't be so hard as Sutton to double. How would you do that? God, I want rich people to teach me. How do you do it? Just teach me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, question I. Am I also making it up that you told me, Sutton, that Amanda took out 2 million dollar loans before, just before filming, and possibly $2,030,000 and was seen at the Big Lots of a year ago. I just want to know, did you

[Ronnie Carab]

or did you not see am following around a poor, innocent woman in a target, but $30,000 in her purse? Did you or did you not?

[Ben Mandelker]

Is it true that Amanda was walking around injecting PK with diabetics? Is that not true?

[Ronnie Carab]

Did you not decide that diaboodies. So Amanda's like, I would never. And Dorit's like, that's a pretty deep dive, Sutton. It's a deep dive. So where they're Talking about the $2 million loan, I don't think it's crazy that someone take. She just bought a house. Was that nuts to, like, mortgage your house?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know what the loan was for, but Sutton claims she did not do a deep dive. Someone brought her that information. Someone that she said, hey, do a deep dive for me. Can you bring me this information? Thanks.

[Ronnie Carab]

And Amanda goes, I don't have any loans. And Erica says, whatever, I'd love to take out a $2 million loan. We know it's gonna take a little more than that. Multiply that by 12.5.

[Ben Mandelker]

Amanda's like, hi, guys. This is, like, still my package. Can we, like, get back to me, please? Unlike Giselle Bryant, I actually have a package. Somehow I was like, guys, Amanda just said, excuse me, this is my package.

[Ronnie Carab]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's talking like a pro.

[Ronnie Carab]

What's up, package? Oh, God. Rachel. Amanda, what was your reaction to Erica asking Chat GPT about you? She's like, it bothered me because we know ChatGPT pulls from Reddit and we all have horrible things about us on Reddit. He's like, well, it pulls from everything, actually.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's not just Reddit.

[Ronnie Carab]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna be a little bit of a chachi PT defender right now. Yeah, but, like, Reddit's like, the main one. It's like, okay, Bose, you looked up your own Chat GPT, and it gave a very flattering response. And we see a flashback of us being like, Bozema St. John invented every business, and it also is credited with discovering the wheel. And Andy's like, well, When Amanda asked ChatGPT about, you brought up skepticism about your short tenures at major corporations. What's your response? That low? First of all, I don't know what kind of reviews she's reading about me. But you seem to think you were reading bad reviews. You seem to think I was reading bad reviews of Amanda Francis. That's not what I was searching. I was reading just anything to find out what she does. And it just so happens that everyone thinks she's a fraud. And that's it. That's all it was. Not bad reviews, just statements of fact. And by the way, CMOs, we, we have the CMO class, We have short tenures. We're like a rainbow. You see us and we're beautiful and we shine, but then we go away. Brigadoon wouldn't be Brigadoon if it came back every 30 minutes.

[Ronnie Carab]

What?

[Ben Mandelker]

AM I right?

[Ronnie Carab]

In most companies, Chief Marketing Officer. CMO stands for Chief Marketing. Oh, she's already gone. She's already gone.

[Ben Mandelker]

Chief Missing Officer. Like, where was she? Very fast.

[Ronnie Carab]

Chief Marketing. Oh, what are you looking for her for? She was only supposed to be here for two weeks.

[Ben Mandelker]

Chief ma', am, do you know where the officer is?

[Ronnie Carab]

You go in for a specific mission, you complete the mission and you move. And to read's like, yes, yes, in my experience is Sumo's. This is very true. Very, very true.

[Ben Mandelker]

The CMO for Beverly beach only lasted a good two months. Coincidentally, that's how long the company lasted as well. But either way, the point remains.

[Ronnie Carab]

Unlike the company, the point is Bakunis so Bose. Andy's like, wait a minute, it's a short tenure job. I mean, it's not meant to be for a long period of time. Well, it's intended to be for a long time, but what happens is when a company is blamed for being a failure or issues with stock, it ends up falling on the cmo. Ouch. That hurt. That hurt. So you were only supposed to be there for. They're only. So what are you saying? CMOs are only supposed to be short term? No, they're supposed to be long term. Bose, come on, stick with it. Come up with something and just stick with it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Ad Week says that the. The most recent Data puts average CMO 10 years at 4.1 years amongst amongst S&P 500 companies. And then it's. It's a few things worth knowing about that number. According to the Internet, it's shorter than most peers, but not as dire as the headline suggests. So the dramatic 18 month CMO narrative that circulates is misleading. Tenure has actually hovered around four years since 2022. And CMO tenure still trails the C suite average of 4.9 years and is lower than the most common C suite roles yet higher than Chief operating, chief sustainability and chief diversity officers. So that's according to the Internet, everyone.

[Ronnie Carab]

I'll tell you what the Internet just taught me. That's dog eat dog world. This dog eat dog world. Hey, why's that dog eating that dog? Don't y' all got dog food? Come on. Dog food's cheaper than dogs. A dog is $2,000 these days, minimum. Dog food's five.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're just bringing in Britney. Okay, let me tell you all about CMOs. Okay, so CMOs, that's Chief mom in charge. Okay. Okay. Not the chief mom. Okay, who wants a dip?

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, I mean, look, I don't have a real job, so I'm not really into. I mean, look, everybody read this stuff about Bose. If you did any kind of research at first, because that is the rumor about her. Like she always has these short term jobs. Like, what's up with this lady? I mean, I'm not really into big at going for people for like, she has an incredible resume. So that's. That pretty much speaks for itself. So I'm not really going to go here. I think she's just kind of opening this up herself by coming for Amanda's business. And that's where all of this is coming from, is her, you know, kind of making fun of Amanda behind her back, well onto her face and just saying she's a cult leader and blah, blah, blah. So she's opening, which I don't think she's necessarily wrong either, but she's opening herself up to this line of questioning and then acting like, how dare you? How dare you come for my business? Well, you're coming for hers. That's the whole point.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think. I think the, the CMO stuff, she's opening it up by saying like, well, you know, everyone knows the CMO only lasts about three weeks. Like, it's like, maybe not. I think she could have just said like, you know, the companies I was at, like, what I was needed for were short term things. It was an unstable, you know, unstable time. Etc. Yeah, I don't. Whatever, whatever it was, I still think she has, she should come for Amanda for her business. Because I do think that there's some. There's something of something fishy with Amanda's businesses. I just, I, I feel like there's some. I don't know, I just, I think like, you know, duping people into spending several thousand dollars to learn how to manifest just feels untoward. And yeah, I agree. I do think. But I do think I'm 100 in agreement with you. Which is that I feel like Bose seems like a very smart and capable person. And yeah, like the rumors. The rumors around town are she's smart, but she's. When she takes these jobs, she's sort of like all about, like, self promotion. But I don't know. I like Bose a lot and I think she's bright and I think that. I think Bose is the only one of this entire cast who seems to have, like, real world experience working in, like, an office and like, working in. In corporate America. And so that's why I think, like, for her, she's like. Like, what the. Like, here you have like, Amanda who's like, I have no background, I've got no training. I just decided to say, hey, I'm manifesting and pay me money. I'll teach you how to manifest too. She's just like, no real world business experience and just like acting like she actually. She's not actually saying she has real world business experience. She says she has. What does she has a relationship with the spiritual side of business? Is that what she said earlier? So I could just like, whatever it was, I just, I. I am just totally with Bose being like, what the fuck is this girl talking about?

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah. So Kyle's like, well, why are we saying anything that would hurt anybody's business? Treat says, well, you opened the door for that, didn't you, Coil? We should all be supporting each other's businesses.

[Ben Mandelker]

Really?

[Ronnie Carab]

Really? You weren't at my book launch. Photo launch. The photo of the book launched.

[Ben Mandelker]

But, like, what business did she not not support to read? I mean, cuckoo for cocoa puffs over here, am I right?

[Ronnie Carab]

The only business venture that I've had since renovation 5 years.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hold on. Excuse me. I'm sorry. I have things to say. There was Buco di Peppo, your bathing suits. There's nothing really more beyond that. And I think those. Those are enough. By the way, Kyle has a little bit of a point here. She did go to that bo Buco to Beppo. Remember? We saw her. This was during the bangs era, Kyle, years ago. I know, but, like, she had to go to Buko and to Beppo and pretend like this Capri room was something special. Like, wow, feels like Italy in here. Dorit. Good job.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, but they all had to sit through Halloween to see Kyle's five seconds too. So, I mean, at least Pepo, you got carbs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I agree. I think they've actually supported Kyle's business ventures way more than Kyle has supported their stupid things. They all had to also go watch Kyle's fashion show. And in fact, not only did help with Kyle's fashion show, Dorit. Well, not only did they go to the fashion show, but Dorit actually went and gave, like, advice how to improve it because it was so crappy.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, her caftan. Her caftan fashion show. So Dorit is like, oh, well, you have to go back 10 years. Coil check. It's called history, Dorit. Which you might know if you ever read. Hey. Okay, I don't read. Okay, I'm not even gonna go down that. So we all know that I don't read. I'm talking about within this decade, Coyle. It's called history to read. I've been supportive except for one fucking thing to read. One thing. How dare you. My first business venture in years. So don't sit here and say we should all be supporting each other's businesses, because you do. You do won't.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think. I mean, it is. It is not a great look for Kyle to say we should all be supporting each other's businesses, even though she has supported in the past. Like, you're actively prosecuting, like, the. The issue up for grabs here is that you did not go to the stupid book thing. So, like, you are setting yourself up for failure by, like, making that announcement. And Dorit. Her. Her angle should be. Not like, this is my first one in years. She should say, this has been my first business venture since I've been standing on my own. And you're so concerned about, like, the power that PK has over me. And I shouldn't be saying this, and I shouldn't be saying that because PK will punish me financially. And here I have a chance to stand up and become financially independent, and you don't even show up. Like, that's what do reach. Should have been saying.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, but. And then Kyle, instead of saying anything good, is like, it wasn't even a book launch. There's no book. It was a picture. Listen, you open that fucking door, Kyle. You opened it. And Kyle whips out her phone's like, oh, really?

[Ben Mandelker]

Really?

[Ronnie Carab]

Well, listen to this. I sent a text and I said, I'm so sorry I'm not going to make it tonight, But I'm exhausted. I'm overwhelmed. And I've been up since 2am and we need to talk still. And I hope that happens sometime soon, but I know you are as VP yesterday, the wedding. So I hope to see you there. Good luck, because PK will be there too. Okay. Good luck tonight. And then you wrote. I got it. No worries. Thank you for all the well wishes and take care of yourself. We'll talk another time. I'll see you at the wedding. Oh, okay. So now it's okay to bring out each other's texts and read them on tv because you've been mad at Dorit about that for like three years now, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, because she did it first. That's what she would say to that. So she's like, well, you seem fine with that until you spoke with Bose and okay, Dorit, did Kyle misread your tone in that text? Oh, yes, yes, yes, she did. There was not even a British accent. Kyle's like, well, how about you go back and like, look, when Bose told you, like, Kyle should have been there. And then all of a sudden you said, and then Kyle does a perfect Doritos. Absolutely. Commercials. Here comes one now. Between diets, workouts and endless advice, it's hard to know what actually works for weight loss and what's worth your time. That's why hers offers access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP1 medications. That now includes the Wegovy pill and the Wegovy pen.

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[Ben Mandelker]

So you're, like, full of shit then. Like, you're like. Your text back to me was not genuine. When you said, thank you, I said, it's called being polite, Kyle. It's like, oh, okay. Or you're being a fake friend. I'm like, no, Kyle, she was just being polite because she knew if she went off on you on text, you could turn into a whole big deal.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yes. I'm not gonna beg anyone to come and support me. I was hoight. I was hoyt, Kyle. Oh, it's like you. It's like you shifted. You. It's like you shifted when you realized, like, oh, good, I can make Kyle look like an. I don't have it. Kyle, you're not going to her book launch thing. You are making yourself look like an asshole. You did this to yourself. All you had to do was show up and be like, I hate you, but I'm still glad you're successful. Maybe we'll be friends again one day. Bye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I feel like this all the time, Coyle. I don't want to. I don't want to go. I'm tired. I don't feel like it, and I still fucking show up five hours late.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yes. But still.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's like, I'm so sick and tired of the jealousy of my friendship with these two, Bose and Rachel, who is much more friendly with me than with you. Let's be honest. I'm basically Jennifer Garner now, and you just cannot accept that. And you know what? Your jealousy is seething out of your pores.

[Ronnie Carab]

Seething. So Kyle's just laughing. She's like, really? Really? She's looking at Erica and Sutton for backup. Andrea's like, you really cannot help but take a swipe in my relationships. She's like, I'm not taking a swipe. You are every chance you get, Kyle. Okay, so how is she Taking swipes to read. Please explain, Coyle. You suggesting that I'm being influenced by booze who somehow wound me up in your head? It's in your mind, Kyle. It's in your mind.

[Ben Mandelker]

You project so much. Like, how did this get, like, turned around? Like, you will not acknowledge how I've supported you in the past. Everything in the past. I was talk about the past. Okay, I'm gonna talk about the past. Oh, you want to go back 10 years? Yes. Well, yeah, of course I'm gonna go back 10 years. I'll even go back to little house on the prairie.

[Ronnie Carab]

There.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll do it. I've been an actress all this time. How about that? But I'm going back. I'm going back to our history, okay? Our friendship. Well, I'm going up. Back as far as I can, because anything too far is like a deep dive, right? Sudden high five. High five. Okay, never mind.

[Ronnie Carab]

What about your fake accent? I defended that. Remember that? I defended your fake accent. It's like, oh, really? You're enjoying making me look. Look boot right now. Remember dropping off the dog? Lucy, Lucy, apple juice. Oh, please. You practically forced her into that to get vanderpump to get the. Listen to how Kyle is rewriting history as if you didn't force that on air to get rid of vanderpump Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Dorit goes. Reed actually winds up laying a great trap for Kyle. She goes. She's like, nine years ago. I'm talking about the last two years, Kyle. She goes, well, the past two years where we haven't even been friends. And that's exactly it, Kyle, stop saying that we are friends. And I was like, oh, that was actually great because that's. Kyle admitted we were not friends. And Kyle keeps on saying, like, but we're friends. We're friends. We're friends.

[Ronnie Carab]

I'm such a good friend to you. I'm such a good friend to you. I'm such a good friend to you. And then she's like, but we're not friends. I love that. Because she called. Dorit said that line, and it was like a matlock where they finally, like, tricked the killer into revealing themselves, and the whole jury is like, well, that's it. I don't know if it's that he wears a white suit every damn case, but, God, he did it again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mm. So Kyle is like, well, you haven't shown up for me in two years. Your words don't match your actions, Kyle. We're just gonna keep going around in circles and circles and circles. So Kyle's like, no, no, we're not gonna go around in circles, but I am gonna bring up the same void again three more times in a circular manner.

[Ronnie Carab]

People make fun of your accent, and I'm always there to stand up for your accent. So what do you do?

[Ben Mandelker]

Supporting you. We're not Gonna Go back 10 years, Kyle. And so Kyle's like, be quiet for a second. Be quiet. I'm not gonna be quiet, Kyle. It's like, please, can you shut her up, Andy, can you? He's like, no, I can't. I've reached the limits of my powers.

[Ronnie Carab]

Sounds like that is impossible. Shutting up, Dorit guy. I defended your fake accent. I defended you with Lucy Apple Juicy. I defended you with the burglary. Oh,

[Ben Mandelker]

that was.

[Ronnie Carab]

That's pretty. Especially as someone who's also had 10 burglaries in the past couple of years, I'm surprised that dorit didn't jump on that. Well, not really surprised, because who needs that brought up again? People in insurance might be watching this show.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was surprised that dorit did not have a reaction to her saying, I defended you with the burglary because the burglary was, like, real deal trauma for dorit, you know? And you're talking about, like, fake accent, and you're lumping that in with, like, a fake accent situation. And, like, you're actually looking for brownie points for doing, like, really the bare minimum thing that you would do for a friend, which is that, like, they were just burgled and they're traumatized, and they were held at gunpoint and their kids were in the house, and you're like, I supported you in that moment. Like, oh, wow, congratulations. Of course you did. Like, how could. Yeah, you'd be a monster not to.

[Ronnie Carab]

You're such a good. I stopped by the window and pretended to cry for that dorit. She remember that when she sat by her front window and just looked out the window crying, and Sutton came over. Check what? People die every day.

[Ben Mandelker]

Anyway, I have a designer who's stuck in customs,

[Ronnie Carab]

so Amanda's cracking up. She's loving this. And Rachel's trying not to laugh too, because they're being so ridiculous.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Andy's like, hold on, hold on.

[Ronnie Carab]

We need to wrap up Amanda's segment. Oh, God. We were talking about Amanda still. Geez, everybody hide your wallets. Dorit, you got a lot of heat for how you responded to Amanda at Rachel's dinner party. Face from tune says horrible look for dorit. Regardless of how you feel about Amanda, she just Told you. It's the anniversary of her son's death. Why did you have to push a stupid argument with her?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he's like, did you like. When you saw what she actually said, what was your reaction? Well, gee, I think she had an opinion about something. That's not fair for her to have an opinion about, especially, quite frankly, not knowing me or PK like to read when you look that footage, you have to admit, Amanda was not riding hard on this point. She was just offering up something casual. It was not that deep, and it was not that insulting.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, it wasn't. She should have just said, I was led to believe that this girl was talking a lot more about me than she was. I think Dorit looks stupid in that.

[Ben Mandelker]

That.

[Ronnie Carab]

In that argument.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I agree too.

[Ronnie Carab]

And if someone says, my son died, can we not talk about this? All you do is you say, I'm so sorry, and you back off and you shut up. That's it. Whether or not you think they're using it for, you know, audience pity or whatever you think that they're trying to do, you just say, okay, that is a victim card that can be played at any moment.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, blame it on Kyle. Find a way to blame it on Kyle. Come on. You know how to do this. So Amanda's like, well, when I saw it, I was relieved, because all summer, I was concerned I'd said something horrible like, my husband makes more money than me. Ew, gross. And then. But then I saw it, and I was like, no, it's just as I remembered it. And I was like, yeah, I wasn't sitting around harboring something bad against her or expressing some really strong opinion. And Sutton's like, but you did have an opinion on it. Yeah, we know she didn't.

[Ronnie Carab]

Yeah, we know, Sutton, because you were the one who kept bringing it up. And then right when she had a response, you would run to Kyle and tattletale. We. We know, Sutton. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, we know. So Amanda's like, yeah, but, like, you went and told Dorit then that you didn't agree with this. She's like, but Kyle knew how I felt because I told Kyle. Kyle, this is how I. Dorit, this is how I feel, okay? I feel this way. How can I become better friends with Kyle? Do you think that I could become Kyle's best friend? Since you and Kyle are fighting, can I take your place? Can I just be called new to read now? Is that okay with everyone? I said all those things.

[Ronnie Carab]

That's exactly what I was about to say. And so it's like, yeah. All you have to say is, that's my opinion. Okay. You know, it's a housewives. It's a housewives meme. Look at the housewives memes. It comes up. It's crazy lady possum. Possum on a dumpster. That's my opinion. Come on. It's like. That's all you have to say. Amanda. She's like, but I didn't remember saying it. I was very confused. Anyway, it dragged on because you simply didn't want to address it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Erica's like, But, like, that was never the point. Okay. It's okay. Can I just say this? Like, she was never trying to, like, harbor any strong opinions. It was never the point of anything. And dude's like, thank you. So Kyle is like. She's like, you know, very feeling very satisfied. And Rachel goes, guys, can I weigh in on something? What bothered me the most about what happened that night at my house when the lights went out, was that as much as it was about what happened at the table. I had more of an issue with what happened before the tables. Remember that? Because Dorit came in excited about her book, and then Amanda was like, you use a ghostwriter. And that was like. Like knuckle. Like, are you okay?

[Ronnie Carab]

We see the flashback to her saying, so that's like a ghost writer. I just sat down and wrote. And Amanda's like, and I want to apologize for that. And Dorit's like, how dare you?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's got this look on her face, like, accuse me of using.

[Ronnie Carab]

I mean, I do use a ghost author, but still, how dare you? You. And Rachel's like, yeah, you're like, you didn't write your book. And then you were like, oh, my God. I just sat down and wrote my book. Like, you have to, like, one up all the time. It's not nice. It doesn't make you look better. It's like, but I wasn't trying to one up. I know. That's why I'm telling you, so you can stop looking stupid.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God. You know, it's so funny. I'm gonna tell you something now also just, like, a little bit better.

[Ronnie Carab]

What?

[Ben Mandelker]

You just told me about wanting up. So you're doing it again. I don't even know what you're gonna say if you're already doing it. Oh, my God, that's so funny. I know. I'm doing it again. I'm gonna do it, like, one more time than you just did. That's like, literally not even making sense. You're just one upping nothing right now.

[Ronnie Carab]

All right, we're closing for lunch. Amanda, what's the biggest thing you've learned about yourself this season? Nobody cares. Let's go to lunch. Okay. I was like, wait. But I wanted to say I really like the hearts of the ladies, and I can't wait to be on another season that's not gonna happen. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because they have no hearts. Okay, lunchtime. Get me a Caesar salad.

[Ronnie Carab]

So now people are breaking for lunch, and we see a SUV pulling up to the studio lot. And this is really funny because it's basically a study in the difference between Jennifer Tilly and Kathy Hilton. So Jennifer Tilly pulls up and two producers or whoever comes come to her car. And she's like, oh, hi. And they're like, hi. And they all hug, and it's like, so good to see you. I'm so glad to be here. And she just walks inside. And then the same producers go up to Kathy's car, and Kathy's like, oh, God. Hold on. Stay right there. Take this and this and this. It's a tricycle. You never know if you're going to see a kid. Okay, go ahead, take this. It's a little monkey Michael Jackson used to own that used to be his pet. Very cute. Terrible what happened to Neverland. I own half of it. It's in my basement. Take this. Take this. She just starts breaking, like, everything out of this giant truck and handing them to production.

[Ben Mandelker]

At a certain point, someone at the Kathy Hilton estate has to start investing in this new thing called boxes. And you put everything in one box. And then that way when you transport everything, you just hand over one big box with everything in it. Rather than these piecemeal this bag and then this bag. And here's a fan. And here's some other stuff.

[Ronnie Carab]

Wait, even. Even. Fast forward your dream and let them find bags because they're like. They're like boxes, but they're soft and they have handles.

[Ben Mandelker]

But this is the. This is definitely the wealthy person Flex is just showing up with a whole bunch of stuff and making other people carry it for you. Yes, Just random ass people carrying stuff. So now Kathy's in her trailer and she's getting her makeup done. And Jennifer walks in, still sort of in her street clothes, but her hair is done. And Jennifer's like, oh, look how gorgeous. Is this your birthday? And Kathy is like, are you not wearing any jewelry today? She's like, this isn't my outfit I'm wearing.

[Ronnie Carab]

She said like her PJs she's like, yeah, what am I gonna wear combat boots to a reunion? Come on, Kathy. So now Jennifer's getting her dress kind of unzipped because she can't walk in her dress. And this is her already famous Jennifer face dress made by Balmain.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. And so she's coming to the stage. She's like, it's important to be ambulatory. And. And Andy's like, in the middle of taking a selfie next to the car. He's like, putting this on Grinder. And then he's like, oh, my God, Jeff or Chili.

[Ronnie Carab]

Wow. So she can barely sit up straight. Which is really funny because the dress is so tight.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carab]

So, Kathy, what's. What inspired your wardrobe? She's dressed silver. She's just silver. Silver, silver purse. Silver, silver, silver. She's like, well, I actually had a last minute change because I went on a jello diet. And he's like, what's the jello diet, yo? Well, Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama, they've done it. Basically, it's jello, baking soda, vinegar, and human piss. But it completely messed up my system. And I lost two pounds on the first day. But then I got bloated. And it turns out they lied to me. And it was ia. It was IA lied to me. Internal affairs lied to you. They did. Richard Gere came to my house and said, listen here, tubby, drink some baking soda. And I did it. I did it.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carab]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I don't know what she did. It sounds like, did she. Did she stumble upon some sort of AI Slop article that recommended this diet?

[Ronnie Carab]

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[Ben Mandelker]

She goes, well. And then there's an AI version of Dr. Ross who's doing it too. He's like, oh, wow. Well, one of the great minds. So, Kathy, I loved your fantasy about the statue of David. Any other works of art you'd like to take a stroll with? Because of course, we see, like, a video of Kathy mentioning that she thinks David is hot. Of course, like, this is what Andy's gonna focus on of everything. I, like, take a stroll with Mr. Ponte Vecchio. And they're like, ponte Vecchio? You mean like the bridge? Like, literally. By the way, what is like a cum gutter, by the way? I do not believe that Rachel does not know what that is. You. I. Rachel, you work in fashion. You're surrounded by gay men. You know what a cum gutter is?

[Ronnie Carab]

I didn't know what a cum gutter was. I'd never heard of that. And I'll never have one. So, I mean, unless it's my belly button. But I guess that would be more like a come pothole. That's disgusting. But anyway, Erica's like, andy's got him. They're the two lines right here. He's like, yeah, it's the two lines, right? Come on, come on. And Kathy's like, oh, I didn't. I didn't know what that meant either. That's crazy. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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