#3349 Crappy Hour Crappy Hour 5/4: Hollywood Crime Scene and RHOBH Dramz

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3349

Crappy Hour 5/4: Hollywood Crime Scene and RHOBH Dramz

Release Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Special Guests: Rachel & Desi (Hollywood Crime Scene Podcast)

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Episode Overview

In this lively Crappy Hour episode, Ben and Ronnie are joined by Rachel and Desi from Hollywood Crime Scene for a Bravo-obsessed roundtable. The group dishes out opinions and snark on the latest Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) drama, dipped into Bravo universes (Below Deck, Salt Lake City Housewives), dissected internet fandoms, and critiqued housewives’ entrepreneurial efforts and online drama. The tone is irreverent, embracing the “mock because we love” approach with plenty of off-the-cuff humor and memorable one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Eyebrow Anxieties & Banter (00:21–03:32)

• The episode kicks off with hilarious self-deprecation: Ronnie laments his unruly eyebrows, sparking a playful group discussion about eyebrow thinning and insecurities.
• Quote:

  “I’m thinning in my eyebrows. That’ll be my victim cloak whenever anybody calls me out.”
  — Ben (01:38)

2. Bravo Fandom Histories (03:32–05:58)

• Rachel and Desi share their Bravo viewing pedigrees. Rachel watches almost everything except Below Deck, while Desi focuses mostly on Housewives and Ladies of London.
• Both praise the Bravo formula of “hot guys you end up being repulsed by” and the entertainment value of flawed personalities.

3. Below Deck and Salt Lake City Crossover (05:35–07:10)

• Rachel admits her enjoyment of the Salt Lake City Housewives appearances on Below Deck; Ben and Ronnie encourage her to jump in, suggesting “Down Under” as a good entry point.
• Quote:

  “If you’re ever hopelessly in love with somebody, put them on Bravo.”
  — Ben (06:51)

4. The Meredith Marks Board Game: “Rumors and Nastiness” (07:13–11:14)

• Ronnie presents the “Rumors and Nastiness” board game, a Bravo-themed take on two truths and a lie, complete with shot glasses and cheeky party accessories.
• The group jokes about the packaging, with Rachel and Desi quipping about it resembling “tiny sex toys.”
• Quote:

  “These are supposed to be diamonds, but it just looks like hard drugs.”
  — Ronnie (11:36)

• Memorable Moment:
  Ronnie's unboxing of the board game, a comedic highlight (07:13–11:14).

5. RHOBH: Teddy, Dorit & Plastic Surgery Drama (11:21–16:13)

• The crew breaks down the latest Teddy Mellencamp vs. Dorit Kemsley skirmish, touching on Teddy’s perceived hypocrisy and her plastic surgery snipes.
• Desi points out: “God has best plastic surgery of all the women on bravo, in my opinion. I think… whatever work she had done was great.” (13:38)
• The group muses on the strange persistence of Teddy’s podcasting career, the effect of fandoms, and who listens to which housewives.

6. Internet Fandoms & Housewife Loyalty (16:13–20:38)

• The panel discusses the value of finding like-minded fans, Reddit and Facebook housewives groups, and generational divides in how viewers engage.
• Rachel notes:

  “I actually enjoy really bad people…In fact, I want to see the worst of the worst. And that’s… why she’s great.” (20:00)

• Consensus: You don’t have to like a housewife as a person to love watching them implode on TV.

7. RHOBH: Dorit vs. Kyle Showdown (21:00–26:38)

• In-depth debate: Team Dorit or Team Kyle? Both Rachel and Desi side with Dorit (in the context of the current feud), criticizing Kyle’s tactics and Dorit’s sometimes ineffective communication.
• Ronnie:

  “Hasn’t it been kind of fun seeing someone really just scolding Kyle at long last?” (23:31)

• The group enjoys Erika Jayne holding Dorit accountable for lateness—appreciating housewives who call out each other’s flaws.

8. Objectivity, Housewife Podcasting & Personal Bias (26:41–28:07)

• The hosts defend their lack of objectivity:

  “We’re under no obligation to be objective about any of these people…it’s our right to watch these shows and pick our favorites and warp our minds…”
  — Ben (26:41)

• The fun lies in overinvestment and having strong (sometimes irrational) favorites and villains.

9. Amanda Francis & the Hypnotherapy Grift (28:24–35:19)

• The group riffs on the controversy surrounding Amanda Francis—a hypnotherapist and Bravo-adjacent business grifter—mocking her followers’ spending and the logic behind “spend to attract money.”
• Rachel deadpans:

  “Can I get someone to defend me who doesn’t sell crystals or something?” (29:26)

• Desi and Ben simultaneously empathize with and roast people who spend tens of thousands on such programs.

10. Millennials, Therapy-Speak, and Generational Gaps on Bravo (35:26–36:56)

• The cast makes fun of Amanda’s “therapy speak” style and how it clashes with other housewives.
• Ronnie:

  “She is the one who's distilling all the caricatures [of millennials] and putting them into one person.” (36:01)

• Memorable Moment:
  The group cracks up recalling a tasteless but hilarious moment about a housewife’s misunderstanding of a death-related comment (36:28).

11. Bose’s CMO Career & Online Backlash (37:34–43:26)

• Discussion turns to housewife Bose’s CMO credentials, the brevity of her tenures, and Andy Cohen’s on-air skepticism.
• Rachel summarizes insights from a corporate professional explaining why Bose’s experience is impressive, especially her nine years at Pepsi.
• The group debates the fairness (and public perception) of questioning women’s business backgrounds on national TV.

12. Final Thoughts: Housewives’ Businesses & the Limits of Bravo Expertise (43:26–End)

• The hosts agree Bose’s business credentials are a rare feat among Bravo cast, musing that Bravo excels when its entrepreneurs are more “infomercial” than innovative.
• They joke about the suddenly vast number of “experts” on C-suite tenure popping up across social media.
• Memorable Moment:
  “Are you allowed to have double Ds in the C Suite?” — Ronnie, lampooning the absurd online discourse (44:32).

13. Hollywood Crime Scene Crossover & Farewells (44:38–46:15)

• Rachel and Desi mention Hollywood Crime Scene’s Housewives coverage, especially on Erika Jayne, Kim Richards, and plans for a Richard Sisters deep dive.
• The episode winds down with mutual appreciation and plugs for each other’s pods.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 01:38 | Ben | “I’m thinning in my eyebrows. That’ll be my victim cloak whenever anybody calls me out.” | | 06:51 | Ben | “If you’re ever hopelessly in love with somebody, put them on Bravo.” | | 13:38 | Desi | “God has best plastic surgery of all the women on bravo, in my opinion…” | | 20:00 | Rachel | “I actually enjoy really bad people…In fact, I want to see the worst of the worst. And that’s… why she’s great.” | | 23:31 | Ronnie | “Hasn’t it been kind of fun seeing someone really just scolding Kyle at long last?” | | 26:41 | Ben | “We’re under no obligation to be objective about any of these people…it’s our right to watch these shows and pick our favorites and warp our minds…” | | 29:26 | Rachel | “Can I get someone to defend me who doesn’t sell crystals or something?” | | 36:01 | Ronnie | “She is the one who's distilling all the caricatures [of millennials] and putting them into one person.” | | 44:32 | Ronnie | “Are you allowed to have double Ds in the C Suite?” |

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Overall Feel & Takeaways

• Tone: Playful, irreverent, self-aware; balancing affection and heavy-handed mockery of the Bravo world.
• Best for: Bravo superfans; those who relish deeply unserious Housewife debates, pop culture podcasters, and anyone who loves group chat energy with quick wit.
• Memorable Segments:
  • Meredith Marks’ board game unboxing (07:13–11:14)
  • The cruel but honest Amanda Francis spending spiral (28:24–35:19)
  • Generational and fandom divides in Housewives commentary (16:13–20:38; 35:26–36:56)
  • C-suite expertise outbreaks in the fan discourse (43:26–44:32)

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Recommendations & Next Steps

• For more sassy true crime with Bravo crossover, check out Hollywood Crime Scene podcast episodes on Erika Jayne and Kim Richards.
• RHOBH fans should listen for razor-sharp takes on the Dorit vs. Kyle saga, plus some of the best Bravo banter podcasting offers.

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Episode structured and summarized by Watch What Crappens Podcast Summarizer (AI)

Transcript

[Ronnie]

Who cares what happens when there's so much of crapping? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

[Ben]

Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.

[Ronnie]

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good.

[Ben]

How you doing, you handsome little guy?

[Ronnie]

I'm doing quite well, thanks. You know, it's Monday, Crappy Hour. Excited to talk about things. What's going on?

[Ben]

Well, I'm having trouble because I think I'm balding on the sides of my eyebrows. Look, I'm, like, thinning on the sides of my eye. Someone mentioned it in a comment. I mean, not that. Not that it bothered me at all. You. Whoever did that.

[Ronnie]

Who said.

[Rachel]

Who.

[Ronnie]

Who said that? You're, like, having eyebrow thinning.

[Ben]

They said, what's wrong? Something like, what's wrong with Ronnie's divine eyebrows? I was like, what? I don't even pluck my eyebrows anymore since the. Since the early 2000s. But now that I look at them, I think they're totally right. But then these ones, I still. This side of it, I still have to trim with the trimmer because they get, like.

[Ronnie]

Get the tattoo thing.

[Ben]

No, you can't get a tattoo of your eyebrows.

[Ronnie]

No, no, no. It's not like you don't do. No, no. It's like the light tattooing, it sort of fills it in, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah, but then what if eyebrow shapes drastically change? Then you're, you know, that's what happens.

[Ronnie]

Well, I don't think that really affects men too much though, right?

[Ben]

Oh, nothing affects men. Okay.

[Ronnie]

What are you gonna do? Like, gonna get like the. Like the big art. Like, you're gonna get like the Bette Davis.

[Ben]

No, I'm gonna complain about arches. No, it's just gonna be my thing. That's gonna be my new thing. I'm just gonna be like, I'm thinning in my. You can't make fun of me. I'm thinning in my eyebrows. That'll be my victim cloak whenever anybody calls me out.

[Ronnie]

Well, my eyebrows are very unique in that they go in all different directions and they, like. They used to never. It used to be just fine, and now they're like. Like little antennae, like, everywhere.

[Ben]

So, yeah, that's the best way. You're very handsome. I'll take whatever you have. All right, everybody. Welcome to the show. Today we are doing. We added a third show to our cabaret in New York City on June 5th. We added a late show. It's at 9:30. The tickets just went on sale today. So Go get them right now. Okay. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a housewives musical. Okay. You've never seen Ben sing as Erika Jane. It's time you did. Today is a very special day because we have very special guests along with us today for Karappi Hour, we've got Rachel and Desi from Hollywood Crime Scene Podcast. Ladies, how are you tonight?

[Ronnie]

Welcome.

[Rachel]

I'm worried about my eyebrows now.

[Desi]

I know, I know.

[Ronnie]

Be careful.

[Ben]

Be careful of that. You never know where the good Lord's gonna hit you, I'll tell you that.

[Rachel]

They're just staring at our faces, picking us apart. Like, figuring out that would have made

[Desi]

me spiral for, like, a week.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Be careful of eoet early onset eyebrow thinning. It can happen to anyone.

[Ben]

Well, I was just making fun of. I just said something about Brittany's new boyfriend on the Valley. I was like, get your thinning eyebrows out of here. And I shouldn't have done it. Maybe that's why I did it, because I. I had read that comment about myself, and so maybe I was seeing. I was projecting my pain onto other people.

[Desi]

You shouldn't get some power back.

[Rachel]

Yeah, I'm not the only one. I'm not the only one.

[Ben]

It's me and that schlub from the Valley, too. Get off my ass. Well, welcome to the show. You guys tell us your Bravo histories. Like, what are you. What are you into? Guys? What are you into?

[Rachel]

Do you want to go first? I pretty much watch everything except for Below Deck. I'm like, that's where I'm sort of anemic. I've only watched the Salt Lake City episodes, those two episodes that were up. And I debate getting into it. Like, literally every month, I'm like, should I finally do the dive into Below Deck? But, yeah, I watch all the Housewives. I watch Summer House. I watch the Southern Charm universe or whatever it's called.

[Ronnie]

The Universe? Yeah.

[Rachel]

Southern sort of replaced Vanderpump for me. Like, that's my. Now I was a huge Vanderpump girly. But, like, yeah, I like it all pretty much.

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah, that'll do it.

[Desi]

Bravo watcher as well, but just the Housewives and Ladies of London, of course.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Ronnie]

They're just so fabulous.

[Desi]

It's so good.

[Ronnie]

I'm so curious, Desi, in terms of, like, you watched some of the Below Deck with the Salt Lake City women, what was your thought about, like, Below Deck in that. In those, like, three or four episodes that they aired at the top of the season, was it like, dad keeps on trying to call me.

[Ben]

Go ahead.

[Rachel]

I. I really liked the Salt Lake City Below Deck episodes, and I liked some of the characters I do know, like, Kate from Traders. Like, I've seen her on some other stuff, so I kind of am a little familiar. And I know, like, Captain Sandy, and I'm, like, kind of aware of the discourse. And I would love, like, if someone was like, you have to start with this season. Like, this is, like, where you can start then I'm not necessarily, like, I want to watch. I don't know how connected it is. Like, do I have to watch it?

[Ben]

No, you don't have to watch it. They fire people mostly. They'll bring on, like, one or two people that are every season, but, you know, I mean, they're cleaning. You have to really be into watching people clean.

[Rachel]

I actually liked the episodes that I did watch, though. I felt like it really showed. I'm like, a huge Heather hater. So for me, it was really good because I was like, yeah, she looks awful. Even worse. I felt like she did.

[Ben]

That was not a flattering.

[Rachel]

So I was kind of, like, happy. And I. I think there's a lot of hot guys on the show, which is intriguing to me.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, about Below Deck is that a lot of times they have, like, very hot men on there, and by the end of the season, they're so repulsive to you. That idea that you could ever find them attractive at any time is, like, hilarious. Um, I think if you. I think if you are looking to start with a Below Deck season, I would just say pick it up again with Down Under. It's been a. I think a great season. We've already seen tonight's episode, so we can't say what's going to happen, but I was thoroughly entertained and satisfied by the episode. I was cracking up. And by the way, Fish Report will be off the hook. It's. We have so many great.

[Ben]

Seriously. Oh, my God, the fish. I was like, yes. They're really up in their fish game for this one. Yeah, it's good. It's a good.

[Rachel]

I would say, though, like, hot guys that you're repulsing. Spy is like a Bravo staple. Like, on all the shows. There's so many guys I was attracted to. And then I'm like.

[Ben]

Like, they say if you're ever hopelessly in love with somebody, put them on Bravo. It'll.

[Rachel]

When they start. When they start. Like, when Seth started feeling himself, I was, like, immediately turned off. I was like, I liked it when you didn't know you were hot. Like Seth from Salt Lake.

[Ronnie]

Yes. Like, once.

[Rachel]

Once they start DJing and, like, feeling themselves, I'm like, done.

[Desi]

Usually so not hot.

[Ronnie]

I have Meredith Marks his board game here, and we've. I've still never played it.

[Rachel]

Oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna. I'm step off stage. I'm gonna bring. I'm bringing the board game over here. We can open the box together and take a look around. You guys continue amongst yourself.

[Rachel]

We're huge, Meredith.

[Desi]

Yeah, we're huge. Meredith stands. And I have to say that your takes about Salt Lake City this season made me feel less crazy because I don't know what my algorithm on Threads was doing, but everyone was wrong. Everyone was team Brittany. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And this is. This is where Bravo becomes unenjoyable sometimes. And I hate that because I'm like, it's fucking Bravo. Like, it's not that serious. It's like when you start being teams, but when it was Brittany v. Meredith, I'm like, it's clearly. We're clearly all Team Meredith, right?

[Ben]

Oh, you know, I feel the same way all the time. And it's. It's so fun when you're on the same side as everybody, as the audience. But very rarely, I am, you know, saying, saying. And that was one of them where I was going craz crazy. By the end, I was just screaming and yelling. By the end of every. I'm like, how can you people not see this? You know, it's like, I get too involved. I get too. I get too nuts.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ben]

All right, Bring it on, baby.

[Ronnie]

You guys, this is the rumors. The rumors and the nastiness this was given. This was sent to me, actually, from Seth Marks himself, I think.

[Desi]

Oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

I think you have to see that. Otherwise, it's like, let me go with the fc. See?

[Desi]

Well, the box is very chic.

[Ronnie]

The box is very chic. So here's the story. Here's the. Here's the story with all this.

[Ben]

We.

[Ronnie]

This was released during Bravo Con, and we ran into Seth. And I was like, seth, oh, my God. My two loves are like, Bravo and board games. This is like the perfect union of them both. He's like, oh, my God, we gotta send you this. We gotta send you. And then, like, I ran into him, like, three more times over the weekend, and every time I ran into him, it got bigger and bigger and bigger that by the end, he was like, literally saying, hey, this is Ben. He's gonna consult on the board Games. He's coming into the business.

[Rachel]

He's our newest investor.

[Ronnie]

I know. I was like, whoa. But they were like, but they sent it. So first we have. There's like a sleeve. I'm gonna pull this sleeve off.

[Rachel]

Nice rumors.

[Ronnie]

And I'm asking this. It's hollow, just like the accusations. And then. Okay, so you have this nice box.

[Desi]

Love it.

[Ronnie]

It's very nice packaging so far.

[Desi]

It's really.

[Ronnie]

Oh, this actually doesn't even look like a board game.

[Desi]

It looks like sex toys. Oh, well, now it doesn't, but.

[Rachel]

Oh, it just.

[Desi]

It looks like it could be naughty.

[Ben]

It looks like it's little sex toys.

[Rachel]

You start with those. You start with those.

[Ronnie]

You can insert these in places.

[Rachel]

That's level four. That's level four.

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

There's a shot glass. And of course, when I fly airplanes, I only put water in these. There's some. There's some pens.

[Desi]

This is.

[Ronnie]

These are some dry erase pans. Okay. Here. Oh, there are some caviar tins. But I think these are full of questions. Marks caviar tins.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

And they're full of questions. So this is the Meredith Marks limited edition. Ages 21 and up. Rumors announce this game. The game where truths and lies collide. I think it's basically a two truths and a lie game. I'm not going to go through all the rules right now because this is actually a good amount of text.

[Rachel]

Wow.

[Ronnie]

But if I know correct. Oh, there is something in here that does seem sort of like a sex toy. There's like a round glass thing that. Oh, I don't know, maybe you open this up and I think there's like different topics. So from what I gather. Oh, here are the questions. I think it's that you really play two truths and a lie. And then you have topics like gossip. There's are coasters, There's a gossip coaster and a betting coaster. And I think you have to say, is this a rumor? Is it a lie? And then what happens is, if it's a rumor or if you get it right, you get to put something in your shot glass. And if you get it wrong, you get. You drink from your shot glass. So very exciting stuff over here.

[Rachel]

I like that she based a whole board game just to kind of validate the fact that people are accusing her of being a liar.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's the great.

[Ronnie]

The greatest pretty much of defense and

[Ben]

all the alcoholic season. Putting shot glasses in there, you know.

[Rachel]

Absolutely.

[Ronnie]

These are supposed to be diamonds, but it just looks like hard drugs.

[Ben]

Yeah. This. I wasn't doing crystal meth in the bathroom all night, weirdo.

[Rachel]

She's pulling from all the.

[Ben]

From all the. Yeah, she's just fully. She got tired after the tiny sex stories. She was like, I came up with tiny sex toys.

[Rachel]

You guys stick this up your ass.

[Ben]

It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. All right, let's get on to some bravo headlines, shall we? There's a lot going on this week, guys. There's a little war, mini war between Teddy, who the Internet lovingly refers to as John mellencamp's daughter. Teddy, you know, just comes out swinging against dorit. Now, Teddy, as we all know, is a minion of Kyle richards. She'll. Her little Kyle. So if Kyle's going to go for dorit, so will Teddy. On her show with Tamara, she said, PK Says the show created. Hi, I'm teddy. PK says the show created scenarios that did not happen. What about the crying episode when their home was burglarized and dorit was hugging mauricio? Was that created? You burn. Didn't you cheat on your husband with a horse?

[Rachel]

We had a horse dying with a horse. With a horse. Rumors.

[Ronnie]

Talk about a Hollywood crime scene.

[Ben]

We're gonna judge someone for hugging Mauricio? Teddy, really? She went on to say she talked about more of Dorit's major storylines throughout her Beverly hills tenure, including the buca di peppo room and her Beverly beach bathing suit line. He said he began to look at Dorit, wondering, who are you at the moment I was won. Did he mean because of the plastic surgery or how she mentally was acting? Haven't you had your face done 20 times? Who the fuck, Teddy? How dare you?

[Desi]

God has best plastic surgery of all the women on bravo, in my opinion. I think who. I'm dying to know who her doctor is. I'm dead serious. Like, if anybody knows. I think whatever work she had done was great.

[Ronnie]

It looks great. I actually agree. Yeah, but the weird part is that, like, Teddy is actually defending dorit here. I think, except for the fact that she just take it. Took a dig at the plastic surgery. She is. Because if pk is saying this is all made up, wouldn't. Wouldn't Teddy saying if it was all made up? Like, are you saying that your wife's trauma was made up? Are you saying that what she did with the buco de beppa room was made up? Are you saying that her Beverly beach was made up? So she's actually defending dorit here, which is interesting. If you think about it.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Desi]

I mean, really hard.

[Rachel]

You gotta really think. So Teddy. Teddy didn't bring up. Because I feel like bringing up buka di beppo room is an automatic plan.

[Desi]

It's me.

[Ben]

Those are both sl up.

[Rachel]

Any of her businesses is shade. Right.

[Ben]

Like, yeah, even the book, and that's not even out yet.

[Rachel]

Did PK bring it up or did Teddy? I guess I was confused.

[Ben]

Teddy called out more of Dorit's major storylines throughout her tenure, including. So I guess this was Teddy. And then he said. PK said. He began to look at Dorit, wondering, who are you? And Teddy said, did he mean because of her plastic surgery or how she was acting mentally? She was acting or whatever. So, yeah, I just, you know, what a crazy hypocrit, Teddy.

[Ronnie]

Although maybe I'll walk back my thing because I just assumed Teddy was saying, so what about this? Was that fake? What about this? Was that fake? But maybe she was saying it like, so was that fake? Was that fake?

[Rachel]

Right.

[Ronnie]

So I guess I have to hear the tone of her voice to know if she was, like, questioning whether things were fake or Was she questioning PK's accusations?

[Rachel]

And, yeah, I feel like because of her Kyle connection, it has to be shady, personally.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's just on there. I think stumping for Kyle is.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ben]

But I mean. Oh, sorry, go ahead.

[Rachel]

No, it's because I just don't get. I don't know who likes Teddy. Like, why. Why does she have a podcast?

[Ben]

They have a lot of listeners, so, I mean, they're out there.

[Rachel]

It's crazy because I always consider her one of the least popular, like, housewives. Right. Like, I don't know. Maybe I'm just once again out of the loop.

[Ronnie]

She just. Yeah, she has, like, for some reason, she's still with us in terms of, like, a pop culture. Right. Like, in a way that we were not necessarily expecting. But now at this point, she's like, they are just their own pot. Their.

[Ben]

Their own.

[Rachel]

Right.

[Ronnie]

Podcast. So now they. She has cachet for that. But it was weird that someone said, let's take one of the most popular or at least most known housewives, Teddy. I'm sorry, Tamara. I put her with Teddy because they both have T's in their names.

[Rachel]

Bizarre.

[Ben]

Well, strange one. When it started, it was just Teddy and she was doing, like, murder. A murder show or something. Right? It was like a murder podcast. Yeah. Where she's like, hey, it's Teddy. Someone got killed. I don't know. Whatever. I think it was, like, a murder show. And then that wasn't working, and she had a deal with I heart or whatever. So I think that they were like, okay, let's just bring in another housewife.

[Rachel]

Like, your dad called.

[Ben]

Wasn't on tv. Yeah, your dad called. Your dad gave us a couple of tips. The first was to fire you, but you're under contract, so his other was to get another fired housewife. So they got Tamara to do it, and Tamara's a little spitfire, so there you go.

[Rachel]

That makes sense.

[Ben]

Match made in hell. Yeah, it's a match made in hell. Okay. But, yeah, they've got a lot of listeners. And one thing I learned a long time ago watching these housewives shows is there is a fan for everybody. You know, like, no matter how unpopular my opinion about current casts may be, I know that there is at least one or two people who will agree with me, and I will search Reddit until I find them. And I'll be like, you want to go to Liz?

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Desi]

That's.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Desi]

Honestly, I'm the same way.

[Rachel]

When I see someone on a Reddit board that agrees with my bad opinion, I'm always like, yay. And I'm like, let me see the heat they're getting.

[Desi]

Before I say anything, I give them an upvote.

[Rachel]

I have to support them. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I've had to look at them.

[Ben]

The award.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Nice.

[Ronnie]

Because there are too many people that are like, you know what? Ben's always wrong. I'm just like, you know what?

[Ben]

Well, it only takes one bad thing, you know, to ruin the whole experience, because it's like, oh, my God, this is so fun. Listen to how everybody's making fun of Teddy. Oh, my God, they're so fun. They're like, ronnie has thinning brows. So I'm like, oh, I'm never coming back here again. You'll see.

[Rachel]

Like, you'll see people, like, defending Sesame street from Potomac. Like. Like, people you think are indefensible. Like, it's wild. Like, you kind of have a safe opinion. And you're like, wait, there's Ashley Darby fans. Like, what?

[Desi]

Yeah, there's a wood for every. Apparently.

[Ben]

Yeah, I do feel bad.

[Ronnie]

It is like, Well, I feel bad for the people who are like, guys, I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I really like Diana from Beverly Hills and was like, oh, you. You. I'm like, they said I was unpopular. Why are you getting mad at them? Even if they're.

[Rachel]

I mean, you gotta keep those thoughts to yourself. I think. You know, when it's like, I think they might secretly Think it is popular because why would you do that to yourself on threads? Especially, like, I don't know.

[Ronnie]

I think you're trying to find the other people who agree with you.

[Rachel]

Yeah, you want community. You want community. Or sometimes it's just a person who doesn't realize their Facebook. Their Facebook post is going to threads and they're, like, innocently, like, posting something and then they get dragged to hell.

[Ben]

Oh, God. Yeah, you have to know where you're posting. You have to know how to read the room. You can be as nasty as you want on Facebook, I think, because those people over there on Housewives threads are real bad. I still have Facebook and I go on there and I'm like, oh, my God, these people are so horrible. And I'm pretty mean, but I'll read their comments. Oh, my God, these people. Facebook is monsters.

[Ronnie]

Well, there's a lot of, like, There's a lot of, like, ants and gram and grandmas on. On Facebook these days. And just like, people who are just of a different generation did not necessarily grow up with, like, how to, like, chat about things on an. On an online forum. And so there's a lot of, like, this person sucks.

[Rachel]

I think the thing that I always have, like, the biggest difference with especially, like, the Facebook type fans is that, like, the older ones, like, you're talking about is that I actually enjoy really bad people. Like, I don't have to personally think someone's a good person to watch them on television. In fact, I want to see the worst of the worst. And that's where I'm like, I don't get that you have to, like someone to watch them on television. And that's sort of where I always sort of disagree with people. I was like, right, she's horrible. That's why she's.

[Ben]

That's why she's great. But it's like a sport. It's like a sport, you know, you have to be just. Just terrible enough to not be completely over, like, completely cancelable. You know what I mean?

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Ben]

To get right up to that line to get attack.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Someone in the comments says, back to Hot Topics, and I'm like, wondering, are they saying that we've drifted too off the topics, or are they just making reference to Joy Behar as being one of these people who would respond like this?

[Rachel]

They're dying for the headlines.

[Ben]

All right, so Dorit responded, sad. Sad to see someone once called me a friend. Go to slow, she said. In a comment on their post, PK said, oh, sorry. Oh, this is just Repeating more teddy stuff. Never mind. I don't need to repeat any more teddy stuff. She's repeated enough. But yeah, dorit's mad, I guess, is the follow up there.

[Rachel]

Yeah, shocker. Yeah. I mean, that's the theme, right? Dorit's mad.

[Ronnie]

Where do you guys stand? Yeah. Are you guys current with the beverly hills reunions and everything?

[Desi]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

Where do you stand on this, like, dorit versus Kyle situation?

[Desi]

Well, obviously I'm team dorit and I'm not co signing before everyone jumps to my thrombo co signing Dorit's entire run on the show. But in this instance, Kyle's wrong.

[Rachel]

Yeah, I think so too. I think dorit is correct, but she just has the worst possible way of delivering her defense or her accusations. And I wish I could, like, coach her because I do think she's right and kyle needs to be, like, taken down a notch. I just don't think she's doing it in a way that the fans like.

[Desi]

I agree. And Meredith marks also has this problem for me, and I love Meredith marks, but she is terrible at defending herself and explaining what's happening.

[Ronnie]

Well, wouldn't you if you had a toddler at home?

[Ben]

Yeah. And I mean, I get it. I think in both cases they have people coming for them for shit that they're like, what? I mean, Meredith, they're coming at her like, just for random. Like, you're a drunk and you're this. And you said this. She's like, what do you even. Why wasn't even fighting with you guys? Like, what are we fighting about? And then she just gets to the point, like, now I'm a drug addict, now I'm fucking some guy. Now they make. They make them so crazy that by the end. But dorit really consider, you know, comparing the two. Dorit has not taken half that guff from. From these ladies. They're just like, be nicer to pk or you're gonna get in trouble. Which I don't think that was Kyle's business to say. And I'm always anti Kyle. I think. I think kyle's always wrong in these situations.

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And I do think that. I do legit think she was wrong. But dorit just takes it to this other level. And then it's every dinner, it's like, like, but you said, Amanda, you talked about it at a lunch with so and so. It's like, oh, God, is episode 30 of the season right?

[Rachel]

It got too. It went too far. Like, the repetitive fight. Like, it was the same fight every dinner. I Think that's where she kind of lost people, Right? I don't know.

[Ronnie]

It was. But hasn't it been kind of fun seeing someone really just scolding Kyle at law?

[Ben]

Yes.

[Desi]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

Waiting for someone to. To be like, shut the up, you know, Because Kyle has been a shitty girl's girl. She's like, not one. She's really been advocating for PK in subtle ways. She acts like she. Like, last season was all about Dorit kind of begging Kyle to stop talking with pk, and now this time she's like, well, I'm not talking with pk, everyone. She's like, boasting this, like, I've been silenced. I'm not allowed to send jokes and memes anymore. It's like, oh, boohoo, Kyle. And Kyle's the one who tainted this relationship. And so I love Dorit coming for Kyle.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

But I have this. I have this paradoxical thing where I'm also really enjoying Erica holding Dorit's feet to the fire for being late all the time and being like, really?

[Rachel]

She should.

[Desi]

She should be called out for that because it is really fudgeing rude. I think Kyle is terrified of Dorit because Dorit knows how the sausage is made. Dorit knows how Kyle operates because she was a part of the fox force five, so she knows exactly what Kyle's doing. And she is so unhinged that she hasn't been afraid to just directly say it, basically, and call out what. What she's up to in this instance. I mean, Kyle, Kyle, I feel like you dislike Kyle. I'm sorry, I'm reading a comment. I got distracted.

[Ben]

Oh, it says ronnie. I feel like your dislike for Kyle blinds your objectivity towards Dorit. I mean, I think I'm pretty objective. Look, I think I've just said why I think dorit is wrong in a lot of ways. And like, you're saying being late in all of that is so beyond rude. And I've never stood up for that. Some of the things that doritos called out for is true, and she should be called out. And Dorit's been an for years. So I felt really weird being behind Dorit in any sense. The reason I am isn't just because she's against Kyle. It's because Kyle's. Kyle's doing her same tricks that she's been doing for years. It's like she doesn't like someone, so she goes and she works with every other person behind that person's back when that person doesn't really even know what's going on, and then she tries to boot them, you know, and it just bugs me that she has that kind of power. She's too uninteresting to have that much power to me. Right.

[Rachel]

I actually find the banter or the back and forth between Erica and Dorit to be more interesting because I do feel like Erica is spelling out her case better in a way that Kyle just doesn't do. And I was like, I would love to see Dorit and Erica really sit down and kind of hash it out calmly or something. Or as calmly as those two possibly could.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Because that. I feel like Erika, I think, made some points, like, whereas Kyle just never lands for me.

[Ronnie]

Like, Kyle is sort of like. Like, she's giving kid sister energy, which is sort of her role in her family. And you just see how, like, that dynamic, like, reemerges time and time again when she gets into fights with people. It's like, but I wasn't the only one. It wasn't just. Yeah, that's everyone saying, it's not just me.

[Ben]

It's not just me.

[Ronnie]

Whereas Erica's like, don't talk like that to me. And it's just like, oh, so, like, Erica's big Kathy, you know?

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

His kids.

[Ben]

Erica's like, I've got double pink eye. You better watch out with her blush all the way over here.

[Ronnie]

I'll give it to you.

[Ben]

I'll give it.

[Rachel]

Great point.

[Ronnie]

I also want to say something else about Ronnie, like, not being able to be objective about Dorit. I actually think that as podcasters, we're under no obligation to be objective about any of these people. I think that we. It's like, it is our, like, right to watch these shows and pick our favorites and warp our minds to come up with any reason why to why we would like them or not like them. I think that's, like, the fun of these shows. I mean, yes, it's good to, like, have an open mind. And I actually do try to have an open mind. That's why a lot of times on the podcast, I'll say something like, I don't like this person. However, I could see from their point of view because I, you know, I do like to look at other people's point of views, but I also don't think that this is a journalistic enterprise, and we're under no obligation to be objective about, like, any of these idiots point of views about anything. So I just want to defend Ronnie and not that Trent was coming at you. Trent.

[Ben]

No, he wasn't coming at me. I. And I put it up there because. Because it's something that I hear a lot. And especially towards the end of a Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season, I get it a lot. Like, Ronnie, Jesus, shut up. But, you know, I'm just an audience member. And by the end, every season, I try to start like, okay, here's a. Here's a clean slate. Who cares? I'm always fine with Kyle until the middle of the season is when I'm like, oh, I see what you're doing, lady. And I get so pissed. And by the end of it, it's just the same thing over, especially on Beverly Hills, that by the end, I'm just screaming that the skies, you know, I'm like, waving my fist at the skies. Like, get off my lawn, all of you.

[Rachel]

Damn kids. Sometimes you just don't, like, vibe with someone. Like, it doesn't have to be that serious. Like, you just don't like them. Like, yeah, right.

[Ben]

What are you gonna do, commercials?

[Rachel]

Here comes one right now.

[Ben]

Speaking of, Amanda Francis responds after some ex customers speak out against her complain about feeling brainwashed and funding her lifestyle. With one woman claiming she spent six figures as Beverly Hill stars Refute. Refutes claims of taking people's money. So we were wondering where all these customers were that were going to be complaining because, you know, they have to be out there. And someone said, Let me see where this quote is. Someone said basically that Carly. Oh, no, Carly is someone sticking up for her. Carly, who first discovered Amanda years ago, went from fifth grade teacher to the owner of her own online hypnotherapy business, which she uses to make women rich through rewiring and regulation.

[Ronnie]

Definitely not a pyramid scheme happening here. Definitely not.

[Ben]

So that's who's sticking up for her.

[Ronnie]

Definitely, definitely not. Like, oh, okay, so you're. You're a grifter. And I can make money if I just pass the grift along. Got it.

[Rachel]

Can I get someone to defend me who doesn't sell crystals or something?

[Ben]

Exactly. Can I not have an online hypnotherapy course teacher defend me?

[Ronnie]

Jesus.

[Ben]

So someone said after spending $2,000 on Amanda's courses, Jenna said she found herself $10,000 in debt. Well, would you take it five times, Demi? Oh, did you not take notes?

[Ronnie]

Ronnie? Is this your family members Carly and Jenna? Your sister Carly, your cousin Jenna?

[Ben]

It's my sister and my cousin. That's why they're always asking me for. No, they're not. 45 year old. She said I funded her lifestyle for no reason. A 45 year old California nurse named Jessica was equally upset with the lack of results she attained. I was like, I can take this course and make a shit ton of money and achieve more of my vision board goals, like living in a bigger house or on the beach, she recalled. But after spending six figures on Amanda's courses in total, including 40 grand in credit card charges and 40 grand from her retirement savings, Jessica felt like she'd entered a black hole. Jessica, I'm teaching a class called this is your own fucking fault, you moron. Thank you. That'll be fun.

[Rachel]

Going into a black hole.

[Ronnie]

I know. Here's a class called here's some other things six figures can buy you instead.

[Rachel]

This is crazy. Oh my God.

[Desi]

Yeah, but I'm not this dumb. And I, and I, I feel, I do. It's like I feel bad for these people.

[Rachel]

I don't feel that bad.

[Desi]

Sorry.

[Rachel]

I mean, they're not like, they're not like 85 year old women or something. Like the Gensha. Yeah, but like.

[Ben]

Right, well, that's kind of where I'm at. I mean, I feel bad too. Look, there are vulnerable people who get suckered into things, but, you know, you got to be responsible for your own damn self.

[Rachel]

As I can see doing it once. One, one class, but like one class if you're down 80, 80 grand, like, first of all, where do you even have that money? Where is that coming from?

[Desi]

But like, well, like that much money, apparently.

[Ben]

And of course I read this and read it, but apparently one of the teachings is like, you spend the money because you're telling yourself, if I spend money like I have money, then the universe is going to be like, oh my God, you're spending money like you have money. I'm so dumb.

[Rachel]

You can't do that. Amanda really ate with that one.

[Desi]

I have to say.

[Rachel]

That's a great way to get people

[Desi]

to keep buying your course.

[Ronnie]

That's actually so funny that you're adjacent. Like you have to.

[Ben]

Oh.

[Ronnie]

Like you have to have millions. Oh, millions. It's like, oh, okay, I don't know.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so apparently it's like you have to spend it. So the universe is like dumb and it's like, oh my God, they must be rich because they're spending all that money. Let me send them more money.

[Ronnie]

I would be less annoyed if it was like, if the vibe of her class was almost like Micah's aunt leaves of London, which is like, carry yourself like a rich person. Carry yourself like you're someone who has a mental immense privilege. And you just walk in and you demand the table at the restaurant that you want because you should have it because you're a rich person. And, like, how that energy, like, how people will cater to that energy. Like, I would be like, that's okay. That's like a legit thing. Because I do feel like people react to energies like that. But if it's like, if you react like that and then you just get money, I'm like, oh, I don't know if that works out.

[Ben]

No. Like, if you need to spend money to feel like you have money, go to the dollar store. You know, I've done that. Or like, I go to Old Navy, and I'm like, I'm going on a shopping spree. You know, I'll spend $3 and walk out there like,

[Rachel]

I've done that before where I wanted, like, chicken tenders on a salad. And I said to the clerk, I was like, money is no object. I was like, what could they possibly charge me?

[Ronnie]

I love it. I love it.

[Ben]

So, shockingly, Amanda is kind of coming out on top here, and it's so weird to see this turn in the last part of the season where people are like, wait a minute. It you guys are being mean to Amanda. Even me. I'm like, hey, why is everybody bullying Amanda in this reunion? I don't like it. They're making a tragic, tragic mistake. Because any housewife worth her her dollar knows that you don't make somebody else look like they're bullied. That makes the fans love the bullied person. So, yeah, they messed up on that one.

[Ronnie]

When Amanda came in this season, I was like, very much pro Amanda because I was like, you know, she's really annoying, but she's annoying all the other cast members, and that's fun for me. So I was like, all about it. But then as the season went on, I just was like, no, she's just kind of annoying. And so I kind of, like, soured on her. But then when talk when there was discussion about will Amanda come back? I was like, well, obviously, she has to come back. So I was like, oh, so maybe I'm actually warmed back up to her. But on that topic, people were asking her, like, are you going to be coming back to the show? And she responded with, by the way, she has a really annoying Instagram handle, which is xo Amanda Francis, the exo. Like, what?

[Desi]

We don't need that.

[Ronnie]

I do not want the hug and the kiss first.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

But she goes, why would I want to do that again. So she's not coming back?

[Rachel]

No. Well, she'll never give up.

[Ronnie]

Not gonna come back.

[Rachel]

This is like an infomercial for her business. I mean, why would she go away from.

[Desi]

Yeah, I need to see the Gap.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

I do find Amanda annoying, but I enjoy her on the show. I do agree, Like, I do agree that bullying got to. To be too much. It's like, it's way more enjoyable for me to see Britney bullied than Amanda because I do believe Brittany's, like, a bad mom, at least. Like, so you can, like, get.

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Brittany Bateman. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, I do feel at some point, it's like, she doesn't even really fight back, like, in a real way, like a dirty way. Amanda. So it kind of gets sad. I don't know.

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Rachel]

Yeah, I do enjoy her on the show, though, because I. I like annoying someone annoying like, that on the show. It was interesting.

[Ben]

I mean, we did bring the only conflict other than the Dorit and Kyle constant.

[Rachel]

Yes. Like, it had something. And I do like the women struggling to deal with her, like, therapy speak. Like, that stuff is very funny to me.

[Desi]

Like, generation gap is hilarious. It is embarrassing as a fellow millennial, to see Amanda kind of, like, display, like, the most embarrassing cliche.

[Rachel]

Like, you guys, don't give me a

[Desi]

wimp in my own house. Yeah, yeah. It was hard for me.

[Rachel]

Like, oh, please don't.

[Ronnie]

She really is like. Like, there's a ton of millennials on Bravo, but she is the one who's distilling all the caricatures. Yeah, sure. And putting them into one person. And, like, just everything she says where she's like, after our fight, like, I was up until, like, 3:00am Because I was having heart palpitations.

[Ben]

Physiological things stole my spiritual health, you guys. I was spiritually hurt.

[Ronnie]

And honestly, I still think the funniest moment. And it's a tragic moment, but it was the funniest moment. The moment that, like, elicited the biggest unexpected reaction from me was when she said, can we, like, not talk about it? This is the day that. That so and so died. And Kathy Alton goes, is that your dog?

[Rachel]

Right.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel]

I was like, this is my exact sense of humor. Like, like, if you could.

[Ronnie]

That went right to commercial. It went right to commercial. And I was like, is that your dog? Oh.

[Ben]

I was like, it was one of

[Ronnie]

the funniest things that happened all year that I feel like we really have not talked about enough because I think maybe because it's just like too close to a tragedy. But, like, but it was, that was a generation.

[Rachel]

It's so Kathy too, like, to do something like that.

[Ben]

It really is. That Facebook diet of the, the AI diet that she saw of Dr. Oz and Oprah was pretty good.

[Rachel]

She does make me laugh.

[Ben]

Oh, pretty good. Ben, what did you talk about the bows?

[Ronnie]

Yes. That was everywhere.

[Desi]

I saw this going down on Threads.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah, Threads. Isn't it funny that Threads suddenly became like a place to be after like years of nothing?

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Life. But Bose posted a video defending, you know, the CMO thing because on the reunion she was saying it's a. It's a position that has a short tenure. And Andy's like, does it? Does it really? Oh, really?

[Rachel]

I know that.

[Ronnie]

So she was like, andy, let me tell you something. It actually is. And look, there's Forbes wrote about it and all these different articles wrote about it. It's a short tenure position in the C suite. So she basically defended herself and then she pivoted to note that not only is it short tenure because the CMO gets a lot of flack for things that go wrong in the business, in the company, but like also that of the like, of like the Forbes 500, there's like, like only five black women who even hold the position of CMO. So she was kind of like, the vibe was kind of like, how about instead of tearing me down, tearing us down, how about you just like celebrate us instead? So I thought it was, it was a pretty interesting video. What did you guys think about it?

[Rachel]

I actually saw a really great thread where someone who works in that world, the C suite world, which I know absolutely nothing about, broke down. Why? What Bose did is actually very impressive. And she said that the nine years at Pepsi is why she's in so much demand. Because that's sort of the elite C suite training ground to work at Pepsi. It's sort of the model for every other corporate business in that C suite, I guess, area. And she broke it down, like in a 24 part thread that I literally read, read every single tweet, even though I don't understand any of the link.

[Ben]

That's like, that's like a full book to us now. I read a 24.

[Rachel]

Like, I'm gonna, I'm diving in. Like, I was just going in and Boaz actually commented at the end. She's like, thank you. You said it way better than I ever could and have yet, like, she wasn't able to kind of articulate it as well as this woman. But this woman made it, made it seem like it is a really short, like the four year average, like stay. I know there's longer obviously. And Boses were like two years in some cases or many of them. But she did make it seem like it's not really that unusual. And the fact that she keeps getting hired is indicative of that Pepsi background. Like people want her in.

[Ben]

She had a really good test. She just posted. She just posted winning, not Apple's music of the. Who was it? Like Billboard's woman of the year, something that she won when she was an executive at Apple for Beats and stuff. So she's had a lot of good stuff, I think. You know, I don't, I don't know what Andy intended. I didn't think that he really was that bad. I just think he said are there, you know, in his way.

[Rachel]

Right, right.

[Ben]

The offense is like, you know, you go on and you're questioning a black woman's this and that. Honestly, I get that. You know, I get why that would be offensive. My thing was. Well, but you've been questioning Amanda's thing this whole time. That's why it was brought up. Because you were the one comparing your bit. You were the one who pulled up your chat GPT compared to her GPT in a car. You were the one reading yours like it was great and hers like it was bad. Which by the way, is true. Hers is great. Amanda's a shit. Of course. Like we know that. So. But she's the one who kind of brought that in and that's what was being discussed. I mean, it's been two years and I don't think anyone's questioned it. I certainly haven't. I was like, that's badass. Like, when have we ever seen anything like that, you know, on this show? So, you know, I'm also an ignoramus with C Suite stuff. I don't know any of that. Yeah, I was just like, huh. But I think it was brought into

[Rachel]

evidence because you got hired at a corporation that's hard.

[Ronnie]

Has like, enter Bravo. Everyone's like, so we're not talking about skin care or a.

[Desi]

Or an mls. Of all the businesses that the women of Bravo have had, this one honestly seems like, like one of the most legit ones that I've like never questioned and been like, what is it that she does? Like, I just never.

[Rachel]

Because we're just like, we don't even know.

[Ben]

Good.

[Ronnie]

I almost want Bose if she comes back next season, which I hope she does. I almost want her to lean more into, like, her experience as someone in corporate America. Because you have to know, like, she works in corporate America. She's been with, like, some. Like, she's just been in a different world. And when she sees some of the people on her cast talking about business, this, you know, that she's like, these people have no idea what they're talking about. And this is painful for me. And I almost want her to just. Just be like, you're an idiot.

[Desi]

Shut up.

[Ronnie]

Shut down your. Shut down your business. This is a failure. You know? Like, I want her to, like, actually show her expertise.

[Rachel]

Well, especially considering how close she is, who has, like, the most insane businesses of almost anyone on the show. Like, she constantly has something weird going,

[Desi]

like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ben]

I don't know. I mean, I think. I think the audience in general really respects Bose's career. I mean, it's pretty impressive. We haven't seen anything like that. So, you know, I think they just should not talk about career stuff because you start talking about, we're watching Housewives. You know what I mean? Like, I don't. Yeah, it's too much for me. I'm. I'm too stupid for this. Like. Yeah, because then you're. Think about how I feel. Okay, Bose, when you start talking about business, you make me talk about it in a recap, and then I look even dumber than I already.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So can we just. Look, let. Leave me alone. Okay?

[Rachel]

We want jobs we can make fun of because we know stupid things.

[Ben]

Exactly.

[Rachel]

Yes, absolutely.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I want to see, like, another toaster oven, you know?

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

As an. As a. As an essential thing.

[Rachel]

That was killer, you know?

[Ben]

So Alvy in the comments is saying that Andy has continued to argue with Bose in comments and stuff, which I have to say it. What do you say? Did you guys see it?

[Desi]

I saw.

[Rachel]

He said, well, what do I know?

[Desi]

He said, well, every. I just remember the what do I know? Because I heard it in Ben's voice doing Andy.

[Rachel]

That's how we hear him now. What do I know?

[Ronnie]

Does this comet have new boobs?

[Desi]

Okay,

[Ben]

tell me, how long do implants last in the C suite? One thing I loved about this whole C suite argument over the week in the fandom was just reading all these thousand comment threads of people like, well, I've been in a C suite for 20 years and let me tell you. And like, everybody is suddenly a C suite expert. I was like, there's no way that everybody in this thousand comment Reddit thread is now a C suite expert. You guys stop with Your comments?

[Rachel]

I never even heard of C suite until like 8 months ago. Honestly, I had no idea it was called something.

[Ronnie]

Well, scissors from my desk wants to know, are you allowed to have double Ds in the C Suite?

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, my gosh. Well, you guys, this has been so fun and all Beverly Hills, you guys check out. Check out the Hollywood Crime Scene podcast. Have you guys done Housewives episodes?

[Rachel]

Yes, we have.

[Ben]

Who have you done? Give us a list so people know.

[Rachel]

Erica, Jane. And then we just did a. I think we did a mishmash that had a lot of Kim Richards, Kyle. But we want to do like a whole Richard sister. I'm trying to get this book that's been out of print for a while. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And it has like a lot of that that I want to get.

[Ben]

House of Hilton has been out of print.

[Rachel]

No, it's not House of Hilton. I think it's a different one that had a lot of the early years.

[Ronnie]

Diary of Kyle Richards.

[Rachel]

Yeah. So I want to get that.

[Desi]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Dive into that family. We're like huge. Kim. Kim.

[Desi]

We love him.

[Rachel]

She's one of my favorites. We miss Kim.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah, I saw that she was at that fan event this weekend signing autographs and stuff. So that was good. Did you see that? You know how she. She did it on Beverly Hills where they would show her going to autograph signing events where they're like, here's the star of, you know, chips or whatever. That's the sun on chips. Oh, she was at one of those. Looking.

[Rachel]

Looking fine. So, yeah.

[Ben]

So everybody check out Hollywood Crime Scene podcast. You guys have been an absolute joy. Thank you for being here. We'll talk to you later.

[Ronnie]

Thanks. Great seeing you.

[Ben]

So the audio portion of this is now done. If you guys want to hang out and chat with us on video, we'll be here for another. Another 15 minutes or so. So come on, everybody on audio, though. Thanks so much for being with us and we'll talk to you next time. Bye.

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