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Ben Mantel Kerr
Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch our Crap ins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we'd love to talk about. And I'm Ben Mantel Kerr and I'm joined today not only by Ronnie Caram, but also a third member of the podcast. It's the Morning Dove outside my window singing its huge hit. What a classic. What a classic Morning Dove. Let me tell you something. When I hear that song, come on, I'm like, this is my jam. Morning Dove outside my window. Hi everyone. Welcome to Watch what crappins. I got a morning dove I got
Ronnie Caram
a morning dove I'm a dove I'm going to poop on your sill Cuz I'm a dove oh yeah.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Morning Dove. So the Morning Dove. They're so adorable. Got two morning doves and they are. They're like the most adorable little lovebirds literally sitting next to each other every single day. They sit on a different part of my patio and they just poop all over the place. Just poop and just everywhere. Morning. Like my days are now spent hosing down my patio from Morning Dove poop. But they are so cute together. And I caught them, caught them getting intimate. It's just a life out here. It really is like watching Below Deck, which is what we're actually here to talk about today. Ronnie, how's it going?
Ronnie Caram
Good, not better. Now I have morning deaf porn in my head. I mean, could it. Yeah, there be a better start to a day? I don't think so.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I caught it on video. I'll put. I'll post the video. It's. It is not unlike watching some of these hookups on Blow Deck, but we've got that going on, you guys. We also have a cabaret coming up in literally a month from today. It is May 5th. We have a cabaret on June 3rd and June 5th. The first two shows sold out. We added a late show. So if you want tickets to that, get that also you can watch it anywhere in the world. There are streaming tickets, so come join for that. Go to watchcrapens.com to find the ticket links or go to our social media. The links are there as well, so there's that. We also have patreon, patreon.com watch for crappin's, a weekly bonus episode, etc. Etc. Etc. Newsletter ad, free listening video, all the great things. Big thanks to everyone who came to Crappy Hour last night. We had two very special guests. We had the team from Hollywood Crime Scene. They were so funny. I love those girls. We have to do.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, they were great.
Ben Mantel Kerr
They were great. So we spent a lot of time talking about Beverly Hills, so if you missed it, come join us for the next one. Okay, That's. I think it. We got a big episode of Below Deck to talk about. Big one.
Ronnie Caram
Yes. Oh, this was so good. Gosh, you know, Ellie has really, really crystallized her villainy. I mean, she's. You know, she comes. This is what our third season, third or fourth season, coming back on the show, and she's really. She tries it every time. She does a pretty decent job, but she has really become a great villain. I mean, she has so many balls in the air, and she can just. She's just with everybody at this point. And I loved it. I loved every second of it. It was so funny. And she. She got. You know, she caused pure mayhem.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Ellie is really a great villain on this show because I think it comes from an authentic place. I don't think she's trying to be a villain. I think that when she feels wronged, she, like, lashes out. And it's like. I think it comes from, like, a. Like a. A deep place in her soul. And not, like, even a mean place. It's just like, a place of, like, this is just how she sees the world. No, maybe a mean place, but, like, it just. You know, when they showed her coming on board earlier this season, I just started chuckling because I knew. I knew what chaos was about to happen. And sure enough, it's like. It's just. It's perfect. She. I think, actually Ellie is now at that tier Below Deck Stars. That is, like, special, right? Like, that's normally reserved for chief stews, bosons, and chefs. And she's, like, the only one. I would argue she's probably the only one that's not hod that has has broken into this tier of, like, when you see them coming, you think, oh, it's gonna be a good season, you know?
Ronnie Caram
Well, I don't. I mean, I don't know. She is in that tier because she is a chef. Because if you look at her Instagram, it says in her Instagram bio that she's a chef, so.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Well, she went to culinary school after this, which is pretty cool. She went to culinary school? Yeah. After this season wrapped, she went to culinary school, so she. She actually earned that title.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, I thought she was just giving it to herself after doing this, you know. You know, chef assistant thing.
Ben Mantel Kerr
No, no, she. She actually did. She did the work. She went to culinary school. Now, is she qualified to be a full fledged yacht chef just yet? Maybe not, but. But yeah, I mean, but I'm sure we will see her as a yacht chef soon enough, you know, wow. She's angling to be.
Ronnie Caram
She's committed. She's going to. She's like, b. For the rest of my life, I will be there. You will see me. Don't you worry. So good for her. Okay, so below. Deck down under Season 4 Episode 14 Head of the Deck Stew Department yes, she's so good. She's so good that we left out the headline, which is that stupid Mike. This is the demise of Mike. And that was pretty fun too. But yeah, when you're. When you get fired and you're still upstaged by a better villain. Oh, poor guy. I felt bad for him. Yeah, you can't even do this right. He's like, oh, I'd never keep a job. Well, yeah, you can't even keep a villain role. That's so sad. Upstaged as a villain.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You got fired at the 30 minute mark. You weren't even a cliffhanger for next week. Like, that's just then, you know, you really failed. Fired at 30 minutes. Like the only time it's accept. Yeah, like. Like, no, no, like, he should have been a. He should have been a cliffhanger. And the fact that he couldn't even get there says everything couldn't have happened
Ronnie Caram
to a cuter guy. And they showed him, or he showed himself. He had an Instagram video where he's like, oh, hey, it's me. And he shaved his head, which, thank God, you know, sometimes I feel like I really am manifesting from this chair right here. But he shaved his head to see. And he has a video where he's getting in a cab or something with Joe Bradley. And so they're making it look, Joe Bradley is going to come back. And I thought, oh, God, of course. That's your friend fucking Joe Bradley.
Ben Mantel Kerr
What a piece of shit that guy is. Who do you think is going to be Mike's replacement? My prediction is Bri, from last season of whatever they were on together.
Ronnie Caram
No. Because they hated each other, didn't they?
Ben Mantel Kerr
No. But in the end, they liked each other. Right. Because they realized that Joe Bradley had played them against each other.
Ronnie Caram
Right? Yeah. But they're saying in the preview, it looks like they're bringing back one of her friends, one of Ellie's friends, and they're like, oh, geez, Now Ellie has another person just like her on her team, and they're going to cause mayhem together. So it. Look, I mean, the ending was the best part of this episode. I was like, yes. You're gonna bring in another Ellie? Oh, hell yes. Double the Ellie, double the fun, double the chaos. So I don't. I wouldn't think that that's Bri, but I don't know.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I don't know. I mean, I really. I was trying to think of the people that Ellie has worked with that she knows, and I. All I could think of was Bri. I. I don't even remember who was the. The other stew that was. It just. Was it just Asia, Ellie, and Bri that season? I. I think it was actually.
Ronnie Caram
Ask me below deck trivia, because there's too many below decks. And, you know, I forget. I forget all below decks.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, there's so many. There's so many.
Ronnie Caram
There's too much. So anyway, let's get into this episode because it's a good one. So at the end of the last episode, Ben has just walked away from Joao and Daisy, where they have a head of department dinner, and confront him for kind of sucking. And he's like, oh, I'm not gonna even pay. Pick up the tab. Pick up the tab. Let me know what I owe ya.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, he's. He's all mad that they've just given him some tough love. And Daisy's like, that's such. He does what he always does. He deflects. He blames everyone else. And you don't get. You don't get to hear the hard truth and walk off like that like, I'm the bad guy. Like, who does he think he has. He's not gonna have someone take the shrimp out of his fingers later on. How about that? The true insult.
Ronnie Caram
And Joel's like, no, you did everything right. Based on everything that I see, you've done everything correct. And Ben. Ben's like, oh, I'm quite taken aback by the animosity towards me. Absolute animosity. Well, for me, it's not personal. I can call you out and I still want the best for you. Ben is a great chef, but we can always do better. And it's my. It's my job to demand excellence in all areas, including the gala.
Ben Mantel Kerr
It's my job to demand excellence. So excuse me while I put in a side pony and relive the 80s later on.
Ronnie Caram
It's my job to demand excellence. So watch me date Joao.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Like, what I know. There we go. There we go.
Ronnie Caram
Jeez.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Well, I feel like a sucker. They're building a unison against me. This is very much a Kelsey from Rhode Island. That was a disingenuous.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, was it? I didn't know. I thought I was just ignorant. I was like, oh, I've never heard that used that way. I mean, I just assumed. Ben's so much smarter than me. I mean, I know Ben.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So now I'm. Well, now. Now I'm nervous. Unison, I feel like is. I don't think unison is like a tangible thing.
Ronnie Caram
Unison as noun refers to the simultaneous performance of a musical part at the same pitch or octave of. Oh yeah, unison. But I guess they're actually doing something at the same time or coordinated manner.
Ben Mantel Kerr
In unison. Yeah, in unison. In unison. I feel like it's a state. It's not something that you build. They're building a unison.
Ronnie Caram
Well, it's a noun.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I'm not happy. They're building a beautiful song that they're all going to sing in unison against me. It'll be like listening to Pink and that guy from Fun singing their ballad.
Ronnie Caram
I can take a lot in this world, but one thing I cannot take are choirs. I will not have it.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Whatever happened to harmony?
Ronnie Caram
It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So Daisy and Drow are still sitting there at dinner and Daisy goes, what I want is people to feel good when you look at my face. Don't you say, now I feel good.
Ronnie Caram
You don't have to please everyone. And let me tell you something, I'll support you through this, I promise. You've got a very strong zim promise here. And we never lie.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You got a zim in me. So Daisy's like, well, thank you. Oh, it's gonna be really hard. Well, I can see you coming off on top, people, you know. Oh God. Hahaha. That sounded terrible. You coming off on.
Ronnie Caram
Well, that is the only way I get off. The point is you've got a lot of pep zim and verve. Ha ha. Zing, Zip and ginger. Pep zim and verve to carry the day. So now it's Mike, Eddie, Ellie, Alicia and Jenna. They're going down. They're going to a lagoon today. It's like a bonfire.
Ben Mantel Kerr
The lagoon, the bathing lagoon. This is the lagoon where Ben normally bathes. But they've set up a little like bar there and they've put up some LED lights that are flashing. So it's like a little bar just for this crew. And they're. They're heading over to it.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, this poor. This poor cast doesn't get to do anything. Everything is like, set up outside. It's like watching the Bachelor during the pandemic season where they're like, okay, your date is taking place on the patio and we've brought a very famous grill chef out here. It is the guy from last season who's grilling you some hamburgers on the. On the patio.
Ben Mantel Kerr
It just. It does feel like they're in this very small island off season and just. There's just no one around. Like, we're gonna just. You're. Tonight, on your night off, you're gonna be removing the covers from. From a grill, and you won't be using the grill because the gas is not attached. You're just gonna drink around the grill. Okay. Enjoy.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, pretty much. So Ellie's like, oh, my God, it's awesome. There's bonfire. So now we go to betul. She's in bed like this. These people. I'm staying calm.
Ben Mantel Kerr
She's. She's really committed to not being a reality star. And then Ben's in his room, cuz he's all sad because he got tough love. But then Jenna's like, come to the.
Guest or Third Member
Come to the lagoon. Come to the lagoon. The drinks are strong.
Ben Mantel Kerr
He's like, all right, fine. You said drinks. I'll be there. So he goes down to the lagoon and Joao and Daisy, everyone's going to the lagoon. It feels like a. Like an old movie from the 50s. Like, Meet Me at the lagoon. So they're going there and Alicia's in her bikini. She's like flopping around in that lagoon while everyone's drinking. And Jenna is like talking to Daisy and she's like, yeah, Jenna was God. And she's like, well, do you want. You want the DL about Ben?
Guest or Third Member
Oh, no, he's DL. Oh, man. Just when I thought I met someone.
Ben Mantel Kerr
No, not that kind of DL. We fought. I'm on a rampage.
Ronnie Caram
I just want that bathroom everyone thing. Daisy is always going to do is gossip with her staff. She loves it. She's gonna go shit talk with her staff. And I think on any other season, I'd be like, you should not be shit talking with your staff. But it's Daisy, so I think it's really funny every time. She's like. And let me tell you, what a poster they are. So she is telling her all the goss from the dinner and she's like, well, yeah, it was crazy. I was on a rampage. I'll kill him. All right, what's Going on with what's going on here. And she's like, I almost went off on Mark because he kept instigating and he made a sign for himself saying it today. Hid. And he kept on holding it up there the entire night. I'm just lost it all up.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I'm telling you right now. Look back in 10 years time and you will be so much more successful and so much more happier than he is. I was like, damn. But she's right. So then you'll have so much more
Ronnie Caram
hair on the back of your neck than his. He'll just have little lines, little scar lines.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I need to find Mike. I need to see this. This photo of him or video of him with his head shaved. What's it do? We know what his last name is. Mike Below Deck.
Ronnie Caram
I feel like my brain doesn't want to know.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I would not say. You think he would be a Mike Durant. Oh, he looks so much better. Like, good for him. Good for him for finally doing the logical thing and getting a proper haircut, you idiot.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, but I don't know if it's a haircut or if he just went to Turkey and got those plugs because he had videos of himself getting plugs in Turkey. So it might be that. So I don't know if this.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I'm actually already taking it back. I'm already taking it back because it's definitely. So here. I'll share the screen.
Ronnie Caram
Well, here's what. I'm not above this on the show, especially with Below Deck. I tell the guys to get a haircut and then they do it and I get excited because I feel like I won something. And then you're like, no, that haircut doesn't look good because it's happening with Mike. And it also happened with the little guy last season who ended up, you know, screwing up by the end. And what was his name? The one who got that girl pregnant. God, what's his name? The little. The. The lead deckhand. Come on, help me.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Oh, yeah.
Ronnie Caram
This last season, Nathan. Yeah, Nathan got a haircut. And I was like, finally. And you're like, nope, I hate that haircut. I said, God damn it, Ben, stop ruining my work.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Okay, we're resumed in. We're really zoomed in. So first of all, by and large, yes, an improvement. It looks good. It's just doing some weird stuff. I think this is really just because he's got. He's clearly got, like some plugs here to fill in here and in here. So I think you just have, like, weird Textures that are creating like. Sort of like it's like a nut hair.
Ronnie Caram
It's like they take the nut. They take the hair off of your nuts, and then they put it onto your head, and then it looks like nut hair mixed in with real hair.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, it's so it's just like a. It's not. It just needs to find its way a little bit. I think overall, this is an improvement. It's just like. But the veneers, it's just all. It's all very Love Island.
Ronnie Caram
Like, he should take some hair from Joe Bradley's eyebrows and put it onto his head, because that's a lot of hair.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, it's a lot. So that's. That's the look right here. This is why you should have crappies on demand. So you can. You can analyze this hairline with us.
Ronnie Caram
You can touch eyebrows and haircuts on the guys. So Ellie asked Ben how the meeting went or the dinner went, and he just shakes his head and she goes, oh, did they go after you? He said, yeah. She says, I knew it. I could sense it coming. He's a snake. Joao's a snake.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah. Ellie is on a rampage against Joao, which is really, really hilarious. But it. You know, the men are what always undo her. Right. Joe Bradley himself is what caused her to go become deranged her last season on the show, and now it's gonna be Joao. So Ben's like, by the way, Joao at dinner. Why were you guys nailing me when I came back from the bathroom? He's like, well, you don't understand where everyone else is coming from. It's like, but why wouldn't you take my side, lumpy lips? He's like, because I've always taken your side, Ben, all the time. As a friend. I will always be there for you. I'll be there. I'll be there. From Zim. And we are friends always. But stop thinking everyone's against you, Ben. Take my word. I am not against you. I am just merely undermining you, which is a different concept.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, it's time for a Ben moment. Everybody get a violin. He's like, oh, I've basically been betrayed by every person in my life. All of my friends, all. All of my girlfriends, my ex fiance. Have you considered it might be you, sir? I think Ben is so entertaining on this show. Love to watch him. I highly doubt he's been betrayed by everybody in his life. I've seen
Ben Mantel Kerr
chefs are not toxic. A chef who is. Who's, like, leaving his everyday life to Sail on the high seas is.
Ronnie Caram
That's.
Ben Mantel Kerr
How could you even think that someone like that could have a toxic trait?
Ronnie Caram
It's all everybody else. If it's everybody else, it's usually you. Take my word. Yeah. He's like, I have trust issues now. I think I attract that, though. I think I attract people that betray me.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You're. You just may attract people. And then you act in a hideous way. And they say, this guy.
Ronnie Caram
And they leave.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And then you say, I've been betrayed.
Ronnie Caram
I've been betrayed. So Ben's like, well, then shut it. You shut it. No, you shut it. No, you shut it. So now Mike comes up to Ben and he's like, excuse me, have you got a Ben paper plate? I want to go back with the. I want to go about. With the title. I want to make the title on a pen and paper.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Put it on your forehead. Oh. If you do not take this suggestion, just want you to know that you shall be betraying me. So Mike's like, oh, yeah, could you write it on me? He's like, of course I am. So then they take a non Sharpie pen. It's like a Bic pen. And then Ben starts writing Hod on his forehead. But it's like, it's not an effective use of the pen. I feel like, first of all, it seems like it's pretty waxy up there. So, like, you're not going to get much traction with that ink.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, well, he's not going to get much traction ever being Hod. So it makes sense. So he's like, look at me. Headache, apartment mate. Hod. Hod. And Jenna's like, what does that say? It doesn't say idiot. That's what it should say. It should say idiot on it because you're an idiot. It's not fucking funny.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And Eddie is like, mikey, stop it. Because you're being a dick to her. You're winding her up. And I am her knight in shining armor. Where'd she go? Where'd you go? Okay.
Ronnie Caram
You stay away from my queen. We've been together for 37 years. Eddie, you are real. And we didn't even discuss how gross. Eddie. I mean, Eddie, calm down. You are not married to this bro. You weren't even engaged. You weren't even dating this person. You need to stop. And this Eddie, we get another example of the nice guy, quote, unquote, who comes on here, like, I'm the nice one. It's just my fault for always being too nice to girls. And then he immediately starts love Bombing. And then when he doesn't get what he wants, basically turns into, like, you, she was a slut anyway. And starts slamming doors and beating up beds.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, he's like, the moping is so extra over this, too. It's like, you guys were, like, cuddling for, like, three days, right? Was it really just time gets distorted when you watch the show? Because we see it, you know, happen, like, week by week, so it feels like it's very long. But the reality is, is I think this is a relationship that spanned, like, two charters. And you also, like, mess it up right from the get go. And then she only recently started cuddling with you again. Like, this is built on a shaky foundation that you made shaky. And then it's just, enough, enough already.
Ronnie Caram
Enough. You worse. You absolutely. So he's like, I don't like seeing Jen upset whether we're together or not. So Jenna walks away. It's like, yeah, Mike, I don't like, yeah, you stupid. And Eddie's like, is, am I upset still? 100. Do I still care for her? 110.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Oh, dear. He's like, well, if it makes you feel better, I did just call him out.
Guest or Third Member
I don't think you guys are going to realize how bad he is. That twat. That's what he is.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So Mike is walking around being like, mike, hit a department. Hit a department. And Eddie's like, no, okay, listen, listen, hear me.
Guest or Third Member
I was like, no, I'm not going to listen. I'm not entertaining. Just get away from me, Eddie.
Ben Mantel Kerr
He's like, no, please come back here, my love, my sweet, my future.
Guest or Third Member
No, I won't listen to you.
Ronnie Caram
But I defended you. I defended you against the evil Kingdom. It's like, oh, my God. What do you want, a medal for telling that guy to shut up?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, seriously. He's like, I'm gonna get into the water. That's the easiest way to hide from stuff is just to get into the water. Also, you look 75% more emo when you're crying in the water.
Ronnie Caram
You, sir, are no Love Island Rob. Okay? I don't know what you think you're trying to play here, but you are no Love Island Rob hiding in a pool. So, no, please, just stop. Whatever audition you're trying to have right now is failing. Just move on. Move along.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, so Daisy is like, oh, my goodness, that's a bit much, don't you think, Janice?
Guest or Third Member
Like, it's. It's not jokes. It's not funny. It's, like, so toxic.
Ben Mantel Kerr
It's like, but he will never command the respect that you do, Jenna. But by the way, Ben told me he likes you, so there's that.
Guest or Third Member
She's like, oh, really? You can't talk about me, huh?
Ben Mantel Kerr
And so then Jen goes up to Ben.
Guest or Third Member
You guys both.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yes, we spoke about you. You're so sweet. You are. You are. Don't betray me. Don't ever betray me.
Ronnie Caram
Every time I meet someone as sweet as you, I sit back and wonder, how will she betray me? Oh, no.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You realize I get triggered every time you come into the galley with a tray of drinks. Because I thought she has a tray. Only two more letters, and it's done.
Ronnie Caram
So Daisy comes up to Ben and Jenna, and he's like, hey, listen, I want to say from my heart, all right, I'm sorry that I was defensive earlier, all right? I really appreciate that. Cause I've always got your back. Now, sometimes it's with a knife sticking out of it that I'm holding, but still, I've got your back. And he's like, I know you do. I love you. All right, I love you. I love you, my little toffee tibula. All right, now let's.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I love you, too. I love you, too. And I know you would have my back, too, especially in, I don't know, thinking out loud here. Maybe if I were putting shrimp cocktail in a glass and someone took a shrimp out of my fingers, and I said, hey, you took my shrimp, you would say, give her back that shrimp so that way she could put it in the glass. Surely it had my back in that situation. Right, Ben?
Ronnie Caram
I would, but that shrimp has betrayed me.
Ben Mantel Kerr
All of the hods here are used to running things, so it's hard to put our egos aside. And I'm really glad that Ben can take accountability for this, because I want to move forward and just smash out the rest of the season. Or at least smash the rest of the season. Depends on how it's going to go.
Ronnie Caram
Well, you're my favorite Chief Stew ever. Oh, hello. Excuse you. Kate Chastain is showing up for you every single after show and stomping for you no matter what. You're sleeping on her couch. You're probably the father of her child. I would like to think that Kate just threw a martini at this TV right now. Like, how dare you? How dare you?
Ben Mantel Kerr
I would have, but, like, why waste a martini, Am I right? So then Ben is like a Daisy's like, well, you know, you're one of my favorite chefs. What? One of my favorites. Oh, the betrayal from every Pore of your skin.
Ronnie Caram
So now Eddie is sitting by the water moping, and nobody's with him. So finally, Alicia comes up and she's like, come on, mate. Come on. This is so sad. He's like, you're the only one who saw me sitting over here and made an effort to see me. Just. God, it doesn't fucking matter, Eddie. And he's like, idiots.
Ben Mantel Kerr
The Lord.
Ronnie Caram
Everyone's an idiot. Oh, God. You're walking over by the water so people will come be nice to you. You're such a wuss. Like, I can't take it. Drown him. Drown him.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So now Daisy and Joao are talking. This is a busy lagoon. And Joao's like, are you okay? It's like, I'm great. Okay, good. I had a great night. Well, it has been good. Thank you. You shouldn't thank me. No, but you're a part of it. Aren't you enjoying this patter that we're having right now?
Ronnie Caram
Really?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Of course. Getting to know you has been different. It's been, as we call it in Zim. Zimfrint.
Ronnie Caram
This pattern we have. It's so romantic. It's very goonlighting.
Ben Mantel Kerr
What?
Ronnie Caram
Like moonlighting?
Ben Mantel Kerr
But gooning but good. And just, like, studying your face.
Ronnie Caram
Fancy me? It's like, yes. Well, if we were to cuddle, do we go into your room or to my room?
Ben Mantel Kerr
It's like, do you mind if I call you. Do you mind if I call you Zimble Shepherd?
Ronnie Caram
So now we go to Mike and Eddie walking towards the yacht. And Eddie's, like, pouting still. He's like. Mike's like, eddie, come on. I'm going to. I'm going to come back. Back with your brother. It's like, I'm a bit fed up with constantly feeling like I get made out to be the villain.
Ben Mantel Kerr
People would only make you out to be the villain if they cared enough. Eddie, you're just gonna be the villain.
Ronnie Caram
I guess he's saying, because Jenna was like, I don't want to deal with this right now, and walks away from him like he did something wrong. And the thing that you did wrong in that situation is you're trying to simp, basically, and stick up for her to get into her pants after she just dumped you. So just back away. Take a. No. Take a. No.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, take. Take the L. Take the L. Because guess what? L stands for Lagoon. So Eddie is like. Eddie is like. So Mike is like, yeah, I'm gonna wind her up, obviously. Well, that's between you and her. She needs to Learn to fucking grow up. You're the one who is sobbing into the lagoon right now.
Ronnie Caram
You're literally crying.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You're crying right now.
Ronnie Caram
So now Ben and Jenner are at the bar and he's like, could we get the fuck out of here? And why, I don't know, go somewhere and just chill. Me and you, baby. So now Eddie and Mike are in the yacht and Eddie's like, we need to, he's like, we need to tidy this up because it's a mess. So he's like, we need to clean. I don't think we did see anybody clean, but at least he said it.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I thank you for mentioning that because I, I went through a second time to collect footage for the fish report, which by the way is really intense this week. And they, I never, we never saw them clean. We never saw actually any resolution to this. Like they clean. Did Captain Jason see anything?
Ronnie Caram
That's how I clean. They just talked about it. That's also how I diet. I go, you know what I really need to do? I need to just start keeping this house cleaner. I need to get up in the morning and then I'll write a list like clean the toilet. Clean the, clean the kitchen counters. And it's like doing something, you know, or if you're like, I'm really feeling like I need to be healthier, I'm going to eat healthier tomorrow. And then you look up diets on YouTube. YouTube. And then, I don't know, you, you, you buy a vegetable but you never eat it or do the diets. It's, it counts as something. It takes the calories to make the list. I feel like.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, I, I think that counts. It really does.
Ronnie Caram
Thank you.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, yeah. So now we're back at the lagoon because we seem to be stuck in this lagoon. This is a very existential thing. Like we're just gonna be in a lagoon for the rest of the season. And I also, cuz it was lit. That lagoon was going off. Can I say something, by the way, that has nothing to do with anything, but just popped into my mind to say I texted this to Ronnie yesterday, very urgently. I think, I think it was just on yesterday's Real Housewives of Atlanta recap that I was saying how my, my timeline has become full of random facts and figures about TV shows. And like 30 years ago, on this day, 25 years ago in this date, while I was saying that whole thing yesterday, little did I realize that Yesterday was the 30 year anniversary of the final episode of Sisters. So I mean, guys, it was a. I feel like May 4th is known for being Star Wars Day, but let's also remember it's Sister's Day.
Ronnie Caram
But you see that? That's how you know the universe is listening to you. And when a man on Bravo gets a haircut, that's how I know the universe is listening to me. It's like, I feel like we're blessed. We're blessed people.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, we are. We are. Because, like, as soon as we were done recording yesterday, I went onto Twitter and it said, 30 years ago today. Well, actually, it said, on this day in 1996, Sisters aired its final episode. I was like that, this is a big day. This is a big day. So it just popped into my head right now, and I felt like if I didn't say it now, there'd be no other time for me to say it. That we are honoring the 30 year anniversary of Sisters.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, we do have different algorithms because mine is like, 30 years ago today, PK's new girlfriend was born. You know, I'm just like, always looking into, like, what pigs the guys are on Bravo. So cut Back to the lagoon. Jenna is. Jenna and Ben are laying on the sand together, and he's like, what do you like in relationships? Oh, I'm so traditional. I never, like, ever date somebody I'm not good if I'm not going to marry them, by the way. Meanwhile, she's picking her butt, and it's so funny. She's, like, picking something out of her ass crack while she's like, like, I. I married people. I'm gonna date him. Of course, I got flings or whatnot in a man. And he's like, there's nothing wrong with that. It's very mature. Very mature attitude. I'm sure Ben says that to every young person he's trying to date. You are so mature for your age, darling.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You're like a real grown up my little muddy macaroon. So Jenna's like, can't believe you're not already driving.
Guest or Third Member
That's a tricky situation with Ben, because I just woke in God for daddy. But the truth is, I do like that, and he clearly likes my dad.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And by the way, I also want to say that her like a Ben predated her, like, of Eddie. She was already into Ben way earlier in the season, so she's just acting on her initial impulse. So then he goes, you're such an old soul.
Guest or Third Member
I'm such an old soul. That's right. I am an old soul.
Ben Mantel Kerr
She's not an old soul.
Ronnie Caram
You Are not an old soul. And also old souls. He's saying every old guy to a younger woman thing. Oh, you're so mature. You've got such an old soul. Wait until you learn how to vote. This world is gonna change.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Listen here, you cookie cranberry. You're an old soul. You might as well be playing the Victrola.
Guest or Third Member
I am such an old soul. When I think about it, I'm really an old soul.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yes, yes, an old soul. Do you want to stay in my bedroom tonight, old soul?
Guest or Third Member
Oh, that sounds great.
Ronnie Caram
I knew you'd say yes, my little Haribo Helix. So everybody else comes back to the yacht and Joao's talking to Mike and he's like, do you reckon Ben and Jenna stayed there? He's like, I know for a fact they're there. I'm going to call some that. Good for them. Good for them. Oh, really? We'll see how good it is.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Commercials. Here comes one right now. So now they're going back to the boat and Ellie walks by in the crew mess. Ellie walks by Joao and she's. And I think she say Joao is there with Mike or whatever, and she's like, hello to Mike. But then totally ignores Joao. Oh, she won't even look at me. So this is why, bro, you gotta, like, you break up after the cheesecake. Get. He could have had a few more slices of that thing. So.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, he would have. He would have. He would have won a lot more respect had he just done it before he ate the cheesecake. I mean, yeah, doing that and doing that right after you ate the cheesecake they made for you. I mean, there's no coming back from that.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And that was an elaborate cheesecake. So then we see Eddie. He's upstairs and he has his head on the bar. Like, what the fuck do I do? Shut. Here's what you do. Just go into your room and jerk off already and be done with it. Okay? We're sick of this.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, I'm sure that you can use your tears as lube, you weirdo. So Mike's like, ed is my boy. And Jenna's playing Eddie. So. Well, it's pretty obvious. Everyone knows it, but he's stuck in this little bubble and Ed can't see it. He's not playing him. She. She dumped him.
Ben Mantel Kerr
She broke up with him. Nothing about that.
Ronnie Caram
She.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Maybe if the whole. You know, when she was. When she made out with Ben and then got right into Eddie's bed directly afterwards, you could have seen the foundations of. Of her playing with Eddie. But she Broke it off. Literally, like, two hours after that. She was like, yeah, I'm not doing this. That's not playing with someone. She'd made a decision. She made a choice, and that's that.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, so. And especially after he spent the season like, oh, I really like you, and then going to, like, twerk with Alicia and all that. That he was doing. So whatever, Eddie. So Mike pulls him aside, and he's like, we need to have a chat. Oh, that can't be good. No, it's not good. It's not good. All right, listen, Jenna's been cracking on with Ben tonight. Little tattletale. God. Yeah. He got me hit so many times as a child with my mom's wooden spoon. A little tattletale.
Ben Mantel Kerr
When Eddie is like, what? They kiss? He's like, well, I don't know how far it went, but they're not back yet tonight. So now Eddie's like, oh, Ben, of all people. I don't get it. I don't get what he's got that I don't. I'm like, age, wisdom, maturity, the ability to cook things, career, a lot of wine.
Ronnie Caram
A lot of wine. He's probably got a car with. His trunk is probably full of boxes of Franz. Yeah. I mean, he's got alcohol.
Ben Mantel Kerr
He is from, like, a higher class in Britain. Really? Everything.
Ronnie Caram
Pretty much everything.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
He doesn't have a mustache. The absence of a mustache, that's. That's a big one.
Ben Mantel Kerr
It is sad when you're, like. When you're, like, a guy who has, like, a really good body, and then you just see a girl just go for basically, like, a crow with an apron, and you're like, really?
Ronnie Caram
But I work out. I work out. So he's, like, really working himself up and, you know, pacing around on camera and, like, I've got to hit something. He's doing that whole thing, but, like, literally nobody is afraid. And he's mumbling to himself, you're a good person, Eddie.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You're a good person.
Ronnie Caram
You're a good person, Eddie.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Eddie.
Ronnie Caram
If you can't take. No. Without flying into a rage and beating up furniture, you're not a good person.
Guest or Third Member
Okay.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that shirt was like, wow, you threw me against the bed. Well, guess what? I'm soft. It didn't hurt me. So then
Ronnie Caram
it's the first time on Below Deck we've ever heard a bed laugh.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I was like, really? What was that? Morning Dove.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Morning Dove agrees. Eddie sucks.
Ronnie Caram
It's a morning dove. So we go to Jenna and Ben walking back to the boat and they decide to go into the Jacuzzi. And so Eddie is now walking into Jenna's cab. First of all, who does this? People are sleeping. And he just opens the door and looks in there to see who's sleeping. He's like, oh, God, there's no Shane in there. Fuck that. Then fuck her. Look after yourself, Betty. I'm. I'm fed up trying to be a good guy. I'm just. I'm a good guy. Oh, bad. Take it bad. Oh, I'm so mad.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I thought that was a little wild. I did not think it was appropriate that he just, like, flung open that door.
Ronnie Caram
That's gross. See?
Guest or Third Member
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
The nice guy who always does like that. It's like, I'm so nice now. Watch me walk and barge into a woman's room and then beat up furniture and scream, what a good guy I am.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Exactly. At least what's his face. The Greek guy from last season had had like, the sense to say, like, oh, wow. Yeah, I. Yeah, this. This was bad. This was wrong of me, you know? But Eddie is like, oh, well, moving on.
Ronnie Caram
Also, that guy, those cabinets asses.
Ben Mantel Kerr
He did. He really did. He really did.
Ronnie Caram
He beat the.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Out of those guys nuts. He went nuts. Oh, gosh. Poor, poor cabinets John.
Ronnie Caram
That was also an Alicia. Yeah, that was also an Alicia storyline.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah. Oh, my Alicia.
Ronnie Caram
Because she got into his bed. She got into somebody else's bed for a cuddle, not knowing it was. That it wasn't Johnny's bed.
Ben Mantel Kerr
We. I forgot about that part. It was Vihaan. She went on to Vihan's bed. And of course, Vion's hard to cuddle with her because he's a pig.
Ronnie Caram
And it was dark. He didn't even know who it was. He's just like, all right, I'll take it.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Alicia has been an agent of chaos for so long, but we just really only started truly clocking it this season. So now Jenna and Ben are by the bar, and Jenna's like, I'm gonna
Guest or Third Member
get my drink and then I'm gonna get up size.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Because they're like getting. They're like, close. They're being sort of, like, flirty a little bit. You know, they're like. It seems like the next step is that they're gonna go to the primary bedroom and Ben's could prepare her a drink. And then all of a sudden, here comes Mike walking in and he sits down just as a cockblock.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. And Ben's like, ah, there he is. It's the Most. That's the least exciting. There he is. In Bravo history. There he is. Oh, God, not Mikey. Can you get me a drink? Can you get me a drink? Bartender, check it out. I'm gonna let you sit at the junk. I'm out of here.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So, yeah, Mike is like, I know for a fact that Ben has the hearts for dinner. It's obvious. Well, congratulations, sir. Where have you been all season? Ben's like, mike actually is the head of the blocking society that beholds me. I've been betrayed by the society. Thanks a lot, Mike. Thanks a lot.
Ronnie Caram
Sorry, Jenna. Not this time. He's so gel because he cannot get laid to save his life, this guy.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
And Mike's like, are you getting it all? Yeah. And he's like, oh, for fuck's sake, mate, just go away. God, just leave me alone.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So, okay, what I was gonna say, this Mike does not need to insert himself here. I mean, this is his thing, is that he inserts himself with everything. But, like, this has nothing to do with you. Eddie lost. Eddie. Eddie this up. I'm sorry. I think that Eddie. Eddie ruined this entire thing with Jenna from right from the beginning. It was never gonna last. And Mike, you know, Ben has actually been pretty nice to Mike. Ben has really looked out for Mike. So he's also like, yes, he might be standing up for Eddie, but he's also over his other ally, which is Ben. I think that's not cool.
Ronnie Caram
Well, Eddie doesn't care about them. He's just getting back at Jenna because Jenna's. You know. He's with Jenna, not Ben. I mean, he's with them both, but he's. His goal here is to. With Jenna. And, you know, for someone who's inserting himself so much, I think it's just projection because he's unable to insert himself in any other way.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So it's like, well, all facets of life.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, I've just got to insert myself when I can. And it's in other people's business because my penis isn't getting it. So now we go to Joao and Daisy in the crew mess, and she's now in peacock pajamas. It's a whole animal kingdom with Daisy tonight. And Joao's like, oh, you look very cute, by the way. What are those, zimcock feathers?
Ben Mantel Kerr
You're very sweet. Are you going to invite me to cuddle with you? He's like, oh, well. She's like, well, I'm a jaded woman. I've been scorned, but until I do find something serious, I'm fully open and willing to have some fun. And I'm curious. I don't know, maybe he's a good, great kisser. Like, let's go and find out. So Joao takes Daisy to his cabin. He's like, let's cuddle. It's like, ah, let's cuddle. Okay. Hold me like I'm a little shrimp that needs to go into a cocktail glass. Okay, I think I can do that.
Ronnie Caram
So now we see 3:26am and it's very romantic. They're in bed and Joe's cuddling her and you just see Daisy and she's like,
Ben Mantel Kerr
gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary. Car. So then it's now it's 8, 13 in the morning and Daisy is like, good morning. Did you sleep scared? He's like, I feel like little kids. It's like, well, I'm gonna have to say something. Yeah, Ellie may get upset. So Daisy's like, okay. So meanwhile Ellie is just showering. She has no idea what's happening. And Ben walks in. Now Daisy's left. Her left Joao's room and now Ben has returned into Joao's room. It's like, what's cracking, matey? He's like, oh, what's going on? What's. What's up, Dwight? Dwight? Did I call you Dwight for some
Ronnie Caram
reason, I don't know, but last night was a really good chat with Daisy and we had a cuddle, but that's besides the point. Oh, did you? You had a cuddle with Daisy? Wow. So betraying friends really turns the two of you on, eh?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Wow.
Ronnie Caram
Did you kiss her? Was. Did you guys. Judas make out together? You know, that's when two betrayers kiss.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And then we see Captain Jason first.
Ronnie Caram
Joao goes, no, actually I didn't sleep because she snored the entire night.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I felt like I was back out on safari.
Ronnie Caram
So that's definitely why you should fuck people before you get into a relationship with them. And I know it's like backwards from like the old school way of like, oh, you date. And then, you know, no date. No fucking until after date four. Don't waste your time. Four them right away and find out how loud they snore because that's very important to your long term health.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah. Know about the snoring. So Jason is feeding his goldfish and there's one fish that's going like this. It's like opening up, being and closing its mouth a lot. And Jason's like, oh, I think you like the way you're moving around a Bit stubby. Got that kind of elf look about you. I was like, have you seen Lord of the Rings? Have you seen. Have you seen what the elves look like? I'm seeing, like, Orlando Bloom with, like, long blonde, thin, like, hair. And now we have, like, Mike with this, like, torch of. Of hair above his head. I'm not. I think we need to update the elf references for Captain.
Ronnie Caram
I think he meant Hobbit.
Ben Mantel Kerr
That's probably what he meant. Hobbit. And it's actually funny because you do see this fish, it's opening, closing its mouth because, you know, goldfish do that. And then it cuts to Mike eating. They got a shot of Mike eating, and he's just eating, like, the gold.
Ronnie Caram
Now we go to Daisy and Jenna in the storage closet gossiping, and she's like, jenna, where did you stay last night? And I'm bad. Well, what happened with you and Bun? Okay, well, me and Ben. And then Eddie comes in. He's like, is there any sunblock down here?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Is there any sunblock?
Ronnie Caram
Are we even giving that to nice men anymore? Or are we just getting rid of. Throwing them?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Once again, yes. No clue that they're talking about him, because he just doesn't even. He's just so a curious. I also like that this little scene when he shows up is there. They're in front of several boxes of Calgon. And I was like, I feel like there's a joke in here about Calgon. Take me away. Take the good people away, Calgon. So then Jenna shows Eddie a photo of the two of them from last night. She's like, look, it's a picture. It's a nice photo of at least one good person.
Ronnie Caram
He walks past that mess pass. This is exactly what I was afraid of. But it's not for Eddie to make me feel bad. I'm single and I can chat to her if I want.
Ben Mantel Kerr
That's right, Jenna, I support you in this, in your gradual lowering of standards, away from trying to get swept away by a. Like an Emirati Dubai.
Ronnie Caram
Listen, you work with what you got, you know? I mean, it's funny that Eddie is such a loser. He's got people rooting for Jenna and Ben. Like, oh, Ben's gonna end up much better. This thing with Ben's gonna end up great. I'm sure that's a real charmer right there, Jenna.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Speaking of which, here I am. I brought you a country omelette. It's an omelette that used to live in the city until it was betrayed by all its friends and Moved to the country. Enjoy.
Ronnie Caram
I've got an omelette made from only betrayed eggs.
Ben Mantel Kerr
The weekend of the country with an omelette. Here you go. Enjoy. So then,
Ronnie Caram
now Alicia and Mike are in bed. They're making a bed. They're not in bed. They're making a bed in the guest cabin. And Alicia's like, I hope they make carbonara for lunch. Let sus. Jenna to us. Ben for carbonara. Excuse me. Didn't you just yell at Mike a couple of weeks ago for demanding an omelet? I don't think you're supposed to be asking for things based on your own.
Ben Mantel Kerr
You're right. Oh, my God. Also, why am I, like, so amused? I just did not even notice that she said this, and just not until the notes. But why am I so amused by Alicia? Just, like, praying for a carbonara. Oh, God, let that be carbonara today.
Ronnie Caram
All I ask is for carbonara. There's something about her beginning of the season antics, and now that she's kind of run out of plot lines, that she's just like, God, I just dream of carbonara.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I know. And then she's, like, plotting to have her carbonara. Let's ask Jenna. And Jenna can ask Ben and make this carbonara happen.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. So he's like, jenna. What? What's Jenna upset for? Because she just took your bait, Mikey. But it's all about. It's all about the. The head of department thing. I mean, how can people take that seriously? Come on. Come on. But it was silly banter. But you took it too far, Mikey. You really need to learn to stop.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Well, do you want me to be honest about one thing? I think you should have been given seconds to. And she just looks at him and goes, don't line me up, Mikey. Don't. I was actually surprised that she recognized his stupid ploy to, like, get them to fight.
Ronnie Caram
Me, too.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So then. But we have a moment with Batul. She's cleaning, and she sees Joao. And she goes, you look so happy. And I love that. I am. Who are you? I'm Batul. I've been here all this time. Oh, really?
Ronnie Caram
That sounds too close to betray. So Daisy. Daisy and Ellie are in their cabin. And Daisy, you know, Ellie's like, oh, just me coming. Rapunzel's. Rapunzel's weave. Don't mind me. And Daisy's like, hey, Ally, Ally, I just want you to know I stayed in Joao's room last night. Nothing happened. No, that's okay. No worries. I don't. I'm Done. I'm done. So you, you do what you need. You do what you need. You ride the town bike all over them. Go, go ahead, tell me, what is it like to cuddle with a trash can?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Because that is what he is. Trash can.
Ronnie Caram
So Daisy, did he still smell like cheesecake?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah, no, he's fine.
Guest or Third Member
He's fine.
Ben Mantel Kerr
That's when you know Daisy's in trouble. Cuz Ellie, her voice gets higher than ever. She's got high voice.
Guest or Third Member
Oh no, it's fine, it's fine.
Ronnie Caram
No, everything is great. Everything is great.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I'm just going to dry my hair.
Guest or Third Member
It's fine, it's fine.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Look, I made it through war. This is nothing. I'm fine. I'm totally fine.
Ronnie Caram
I'm totally, totally fine. I'm going to give you the same voice I used at fruit stand customer service. Everything is fine. Everything is fine.
Guest or Third Member
No.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yes.
Guest or Third Member
I'm going to have some milk now.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So Ellie says, now he's going after Daisy.
Ronnie Caram
Like of course you are.
Ben Mantel Kerr
This is the guy you are. Obviously he is Trash Can. I don't give a about you. So do whatever the hell you want. Trash Can.
Ronnie Caram
Well, did you have a fun night la? Yes, I did. I had great time. Great time watching Trash can make up with somebody.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So Alicia and Jenna are just hugging and Mike walks by and Mike's like, jenna, Alicia said that she would be a better second stew. And he's like, oh, off. I never said that. And Jenna's like, I don't give a
Guest or Third Member
what Mike says because everything's, it's like,
Ben Mantel Kerr
yeah, it's not even funny. Mike.
Guest or Third Member
Yeah, you don't actually know your place anymore. You need to eat some humble pie.
Ronnie Caram
Remember, remember Hod. Hod. Mike. Mike. Actually, I just know what. Off your shoulder. You don't deserve to be here. You think you can crack off? You think you can crack off? He's like, who's got the mvp? I do. I do. It's written on a pizza box.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And she literally like, she makes it look like she's like jerking off her a dick.
Ronnie Caram
She's like, I don't give a if
Guest or Third Member
you have an FM baby. I really don't.
Ben Mantel Kerr
He's like, what's that seeing?
Guest or Third Member
He's like, I don't, I don't. I'll give a. Give a fly back. I don't give it.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So she's like this.
Ronnie Caram
So she just runs to date crazy. She's like, where's Daisy? And Alicia's telling Michael. Jesus. Why would you try to start a war between Jenna and I get the bedding. God, Mike. He's like, what? Look, do you know what annoys us the most? How much she's feeling Eddie. That's what she's betraying. Eddie.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Oh, God, Mike, you would take Eddie's girl if you could. So Alicia is like, I actually don't care anymore. I just don't want to. I just want to do my job so I can go to bed. So then Jenna just goes into Daisy's cabin. Daisy is, like, in the bathroom. Fully in the bathroom. Who knows if she's taking a dump? Who knows if she's showering? Jenna just opens up the door of the bathroom because dancing.
Guest or Third Member
I can't work with Mark anymore.
Ben Mantel Kerr
It's like, what happened?
Guest or Third Member
It's just like, instagram something now again. And he's like, at least he'd be a better second dude than you.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And he goes like.
Guest or Third Member
And remember, don't talk to me because I'm the hod. And it's like, joke. It's like, really? I think it's pissing me the off. Chad
Ben Mantel Kerr
today, like, goes upstairs.
Ronnie Caram
God. So she goes up there, and she's like, mike, what did you say? What did I say about winding people up, huh?
Ben Mantel Kerr
And so he's like, yeah. It's like, well, I haven't said anything. He's like, no, you're not whiting Jenna up. No, My word for word was, I'm the dex, too. I've got the head. I've got the head of department. Okay, you know what? You're working till 9pm tonight.
Ronnie Caram
And so she storms that, and he goes, we'll see about that. And she comes back and storms back in. She goes, excuse me, what did you say to me? And he goes, I'm not working till 9pm tonight. She goes, okay, you know what? Get off the boat. Get off the boat and take your plugs with you.
Ben Mantel Kerr
We're turning around this bed. Turn around this bed. This bed is not going to Disneyland anymore.
Ronnie Caram
So he's like, fine, I will. So he walks off, and he's just whistling. It's like, look at me. Call Mike. Call Mike. I don't care. Everyone's so touchy. So then we go to Joelle and Daisy, and she comes down. She's like, jesus Christ,
Ben Mantel Kerr
we've never seen this happen where someone just, like, gets, like, sent to the dock. They literally get sent to, like, like, the. The timeout. So Joelle's like, what happened? Is something happening in Zimbabwe? She's like, fucking Mike. He was winding Jen up, and I said, you're working till 9pm and he said, we'll see about that. And I said, get off the boat. It's like, yes, that's not acceptable.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, it's super common. People come into yacht and think it's a vacation. Take a couple of photos for social. And unfortunately, Mike is one of those people. Surprise. It's not all fun and games here. I hope you got some great photos out of it. But don't let the pastoral. Don't let the pastoral. How do you say that word?
Ben Mantel Kerr
Passerelle.
Ronnie Caram
The pastoral. Don't let the passoral hit you on the way out. Oh, passerel.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Duh, passerel, pasarel. Not related to Passerobels. So I've been showing this.
Ronnie Caram
I've been covering this show non stop for 14 years and I still don't know that word.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So the.
Ronnie Caram
Really proud of myself.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So Daisy basically goes up to the bridge and. And so she's like. Jason's like, oh, I'm just feeding my fish. I've been doing it for about two hours. They keep on dying on me. I don't know why.
Ronnie Caram
Literally. Anyway, what's going on with just feeding my fish here? By the way, I'm having a conversation with this one here. Do you know the difference between an elf and a hobbit? All right, go ahead.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So Daisy is like, mike is currently kicked off the boat. He's like, really? Why? What'd he do? Well, yesterday I said, mike, please don't wind anyone up. And this morning he's at it again. So I said, you're working till 9pm and as I was walking out the door, he goes, I won't be working till 9pm And I said, get off the boat. So this is where we're at.
Ronnie Caram
Like, well, he's off the boat. This sounds like you've handled this very professionally. Respect is not there. There's a history of that. Let's roll back on the history there. We saw that. All right, you know, let's bring Mike in. All right. By the way, let's bring Mike in.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And the commitment to Below Duck Down Under. The reason why we have a fish report only with Blow Duck down under is because, you know, every Below Deck franchise, they try to kind of create a different vibe. And so this is the one that's focused on scuba diving. And so they show a lot of fish, etc. But. But bubbles. The other thing is bubbles everywhere. Bubbles.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, my God.
Ben Mantel Kerr
And so they have this flashback of like, look at the terrible things that Mike has done. And he's like. But, like, there's bubbles all over, and it's just so funny that they're like, this serious moment. He's in trouble because he was being mean amongst bubbles. Just so funny, that. And, like, you know, anytime they put up someone's name. Yeah. Anytime someone's name comes, it comes up on screen. There's bubbles.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Everything so funny.
Ronnie Caram
I noticed the bubbles, too. I mean, I've noticed them before, but last night I was like, okay with the bubbles. Okay. It's a lot of bubbles. So it's like, mike, have a seat. And by the way, Mike goes to do his hair first before he gets fired, which is so him.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So funny, but he does it badly. He was wearing a hat, so he's, like, trying to fix his hat here, but it was great because he can't. Because he can't spray it. So he's sort of. He puts all of his hair forward, but it's, like, flat and just strange. It looks like he just was sitting in front. Like, in front of a fan for 10 minutes, and he just looks crazier than normal. Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
So the captain's like, well, have a seat, Mike. Now, I've gotten the full story from Daisy, and what it's come down to is, you know, you've been disrespectful to your team. Later. And worse, you're making me do something. I was getting somewhere with these fish. So, look, you've been given warnings. You're toxic, your hair's stupid, everyone hates you. Please rethink your eyebrows. I'm sending you home. Mike's like, well, I apologize, Daisy, for how this whole season's been, to be honest, from start to finish. And us have used entertaining me as a release. And that's. That's how I really feel. That's how I really feel.
Ben Mantel Kerr
All right. Thank you. I appreciate the apology. He's like, yes, of course. So Jason's like, It's like, yes, just send Joel. Go. Make sure he. Make sure that Mike gets off. He's like, yeah, well, we'll be my first time getting off on this boat. It's like, all right, see, that's why you just got fired, Mike. It's like, you know, this isn't the first time I've been sexed for being the class clown, for being the joker, for wanting to entertain. And the thing is, I can never change who I am. I'm like, you can. This is not changing who you intrinsically are. It's not changing your. Your principles, your thoughts, your views. Your worldview, how you relate to others, how you can see, consider others, is just basically saying you can be quiet. Like, it's. You not making those jokes, you not saying those things, you not annoying people. That is actually something you can't change as not affecting who you intrinsically are.
Ronnie Caram
So changing your behavior. You can do that.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
And you're not in trouble for being a class clown or being a joker. You're being. You're in trouble for being an okay.
Ben Mantel Kerr
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
And a shitty person. That's. That's why.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Bye. So he leaves, and Daisy's like, oh, good Lord, what a day. I was trying to poop. I've still got half a log in there. Do you mind?
Ben Mantel Kerr
I'm proud of you. Not taking that shit, you know? Oh, sorry. I shouldn't mention that. I know what you're going through at the moment.
Ronnie Caram
No pun intended.
Ben Mantel Kerr
But we're all behind you. We're all behind you. Now, if you excuse me, I've got to get back to the tasting course. I'm feeding my fish.
Ronnie Caram
So now Jenna and Eddie are by the bar and say, I think Matt just got fired. I mean, he's packing his bags now, and he's like, oh, God, the person that tried to save me from horrible treatment on this boat. So now he texts not Norma, and says that he needs a replacement. And they're like, well, only stews are available at this short notice. I can tell you that. We're not gonna be getting a lot of deck slash stew, so good luck. God, nice job burning through that one. A loser. By the way, an elf is thin. A hobbit is the one with the flat feet and hairy feet. Okay, that's. That's hot.
Ben Mantel Kerr
I wonder if they were considering moving Ellie out of the kitchen because she was hired originally to be a stew. So that would have been funny if they pulled her out of the kitchen, but they're not. Oh, so Mike is right. Like, that was a possibility. I thought that might happen.
Ronnie Caram
But now her and Ben are like my friends.
Ben Mantel Kerr
So, yeah, Mike is packing and Ben is like, oh, well, I love you, mate. I'm going to really miss you. You know that. But that's what you get for betraying me with. He's like, yes. To me, everything was just too serious. I'm not a serious person. And at the end of the day, you get hairspray for hairspray. I've had a fantastic time.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, exactly, Mark. Yeah. And I've enjoyed every moment being it. And everyone I wanted to let know, none of this was personal. You know what I mean? None of it was personal. At least he's like, I know, Mike. Just go, Mike. Personally, I don't think I did anything wrong. That's the problem. Like, oh God, you're joking, right? Mike is like, actually, I think I was perfect.
Ben Mantel Kerr
See, you were having actually a relatively classy departure and just ruined it all over again. This is the problem. He just never knows when to stop. Let's also not forget about the time when he. How he like he ruined that surprise and then he lied to the charter the. The primary and said that like he never said it. Like he's just been. He's just terrible in so many different ways.
Ronnie Caram
Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.
Ben Mantel Kerr
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Below Deck Down Under S04E14 Part One: "Hair Today Gone Tomorrow"
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: May 5, 2026
In this lively and hilarious installment, Ben and Ronnie dive into Below Deck Down Under S04E14—a night of reality TV chaos packed with yacht drama, firings, hookups, questionable hairlines, emotional breakdowns, and villain upgrades. The hosts blend genuine Bravo love with sharp sarcasm, taking special glee in the week's big episode: Mike’s firing, Ellie’s villain arc, inter-crew love triangles, hair plug gossip, and lagoon-based shenanigans.
Ronnie (Ellie’s villainy):
“She has really become a great villain. She has so many balls in the air, and she caused pure mayhem.” [03:19]
Ben (on Mike’s firing):
“You got fired at the 30 minute mark. You weren’t even a cliffhanger for next week. That’s… you really failed.” [06:23]
Mike’s Hair Saga:
Ronnie: “It’s like they take the hair off of your nuts, and then they put it onto your head, and then it looks like nut hair mixed in with real hair.” [16:45]
Ronnie (on “nice guy” Eddie):
“If you can’t take no without flying into a rage and beating up furniture, you’re not a good person.” [37:20]
Ben (on Jenna’s new romance):
“It is sad when you’re… a guy with a really good body, and then you just see a girl just go for basically, like, a crow with an apron…” [36:42]
Daisy “kicking off” Mike:
Daisy: “Get off the boat and take your plugs with you.” [53:27]
Ben (the fish report):
“The commitment to Below Duck Down Under… this is the one that’s focused on scuba diving. And so they show a lot of fish, etc. But—bubbles. The other thing is bubbles everywhere.” [56:08]
True to Watch What Crappens’ style:
This “part one” recap is classic Crappens: Ben and Ronnie relish Below Deck’s new heights of villainy, emotional spiral, and crew chaos. They roast Mike’s “no traction” hair and hopeless class clown energy, roll their eyes at Eddie’s “nice guy” routine turning toxic, cheer Daisy’s boss moves, and lovingly lampoon Bravo tropes with giddy abandon. Ellie is crowned a villain amongst stews, bubbles become a running gag, hookups turn awkward, and as always—the Crappens boys celebrate the best worst behavior Bravo has to offer.
"You got fired at the 30 minute mark. You weren't even a cliffhanger for next week. That’s… you really failed."
—Ben, [06:23]
Tune in for Part Two for the fallout and more Below Deck mayhem.
End of Recap