#3353 Summer House S10E14 Part 2: Freedom Fried

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Watch What Crappens Podcast Recap

Episode #3353 – Summer House S10E14 Part 2: "Freedom Fried"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: May 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and sharply observational episode, Ben and Ronnie delve into Part 2 of the Summer House Season 10, Episode 14 ("Freedom Fried"), offering their trademark blend of praise, mockery, and psychological insight into the cast’s tangled relationships. The focus centers on relationship turbulence, personal growth (or the lack thereof), and the escalation of drama amid the group’s Hamptons summer. The hosts analyze the emotional fallout between Kyle and Amanda, Ben and Sabrina’s awkward romance, and the implications of new flirty connections, providing both hilarious commentary and genuine empathy.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. Ben & Sabrina: The “I Love You” Dilemma

(Begins ~02:51)

• Ronnie describes Ben’s relationship style:
  "She doesn't spat. She's just like, chill. She wears a heart on her sleeve and a collar on her neck. I mean, it's perfect for me cuz … she's constantly reassuring me of where we're at, which I didn’t realize was actually very important to me." (Ronnie, 02:51)

• Lindsay spots Sabrina’s motives:
  Calls out Sabrina for “depositing” niceties to secure a full-time cast slot, suggesting her kindness is strategic (03:19).

• “I haven’t said I love you in 15 years” – Is Ben emotionally inaccessible?
  "Oh, that's something you get an award for for being emotionally inaccessible. Go see a therapist." (Lindsay, 03:47)

• Ben’s religious trauma unpacked:
  Ben’s fear of intimacy is traced back to his strict, religious father who withheld love after a teenage “indiscretion.” The hosts express skepticism:
  "So what Ben is basically saying is that his dad withheld love ... so he’s going to rectify the traumas of the past by withholding love as well. Got it." (Lindsay, 04:55)
  "I do blame religion, literally, for everything, including long lines at McDonald's." (Ronnie, 05:26)

• Trust Issues:
  Lindsay remains unconvinced by Ben’s motives and sincerity.

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2. Amanda, Mia, Wes & Sierra: Love Triangles and Loyalty

(~07:29–11:10)

• Amanda and Mia discuss the fallout of a missed double date, hinting at awkward group dynamics.

• Amanda’s loyalty to Sierra:
  Amanda declares, “Sierra is a very special, incredible person, and you need to treat her differently than any other woman in the world ... until a man is capable of doing that, I don’t trust anyone with her heart.” (Amanda, ~10:08)

• Hosts’ take:
  Ronnie and Lindsay note the irony in Amanda’s protectiveness against Sierra’s romantic involvement with Wes, exposing Amanda’s own insecurities.

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3. Sierra Intervenes: Suggesting Separation (Kyle & Amanda)

(11:28–13:53)

• Sierra broaches the idea of a trial separation to Kyle, after already mentioning it to Amanda:
  "Would it be a crazy idea if you guys just, like, physically just, like, separated for a month?" (Sierra, 11:28)

• Hosts note this is a dramatic and risky move:
  "This was a bit of an overstep from Sierra. Just a little bit." (Lindsay, 12:50)

• Kyle’s Reaction:
  Realizes “separation conversations” have been circulating without his knowledge:
  "I mean, the fact that there's separation conversations happening within our friend group, unbeknownst to me, while we're trying our best to put our foot forward in therapy, I mean, it's disheartening." (Kyle via Ronnie, 18:34)

• Meta-critique:
  Ronnie and Lindsay both see Sierra’s move as intrusive but understandable due to the house’s constant tension.

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4. Pre-Dinner Flirting & Banter

(21:14–27:22)

• The dinner prep scenes capture classic Summer House hijinks—flirting, changing, and snark:

  • Chef Frank’s surly presence and Lindsay’s teasing about career paths (21:14–23:19).
  • Bailey and Carl’s flirty rapport, with magic tricks and fashion mishaps (tan lines and thongs) getting comedic attention.

• Fun Quote:
  "She's like, I can't even imagine what this looks like from a different angle." (Carl, on a martini spill incident, 25:17)

• Mild romantic tension and light ribbing set the mood before things boil over at dinner.

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5. Freedom Dinner & Lost–and–Found Game

(27:37–36:33)

• Lindsay launches her trademark “Freedom Dinner,” referencing a big moment from last year. Cue flashbacks and sassy asides.
  "Exactly one day, one year ago, I hosted a freedom dinner. And I'm here to tell you I'm still free." (Lindsay, 28:03)

• The ‘Lost and Found’ game prompts revelations:

  • Carl: Found his “dream girl”; lost “timelines” (29:30)
  • Bailey: Lost a dark relationship, found joy and self-confidence
  • Bailey & Carl, urged by the table, make out—wild cheers ensue (30:21–30:51)
  • Wes: "Last summer I lost my voice, but this summer, I found the ability to speak up and also found a friendship and a relationship that was clearly lost for a long time.” (Wes, 33:20)
  • Sierra: Lost the “weight” of having to be angry at Wes, found bars (metaphorically and literally)
  • KJ opens up about family loss, finding brotherhood in the house (~34:07–35:03). Hosts and cast are genuinely touched—“Protect KJ at all costs.” (Ronnie, 35:05)

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6. Kyle & Amanda: The DJ Career Blow-Up

(36:39–53:28 (peak drama at ~44:13–53:28))

The Set-Up:

• Amanda reveals—without his consent—that Kyle’s DJing is taking him to Vegas.
• Lindsay sharply questions whether Kyle consulted Amanda before signing with a manager.

Major Exchange:

• Amanda’s disapproval of Kyle’s career shift is matched by his defensiveness and frustration:
  "You're not making decisions together is my point." (Ronnie as Lindsay, 45:30)

• Kyle feels ganged up on:
  "I'm under attack because I felt all summer long." (Kyle via Ronnie, 45:32)

• Lindsay delivers the core critique:
  "You're supposed to be aligned in that partnership about what your future goals are together as a family, as a unit, and as a team together." (Lindsay, 42:59)

• Ronnie’s summary:
  "He has the absolute right to do that. If he wants to party every night and he wants to be a dj, there's nothing wrong with that ... He just needs to be with somebody who also wants to do that. And he's just not with somebody who's—they're just not compatible, you know.” (Ronnie, 45:48)

Peak Blow-Up:

• Kyle lashes out at Amanda:
  "You." (Kyle to Amanda, 49:37)
  "So you're gonna. Now you've lost. You've lost the argument because. Yeah, he just can't do that." (Lindsay, 50:44)

• Wes steps in protectively behind Amanda—raising suspicion about their deepening bond:
  “Wes pulling that chair over and then sitting, like, behind Amanda ... that body language ... the emotional affair has definitely started at this point.” (Lindsay, 52:09)

• Carl and Kyle nearly brawl as Kyle storms out, throwing a Loverboy can:
  "Carl only gets, like, really big in a fight when someone's holding him back." (Lindsay, 54:02)

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• Ben’s Emotional Luggage:
  “He’s screwing over women instead … just using them for sex instead [of] saying ‘I love you’ to please his dad, who got mad at him for having sex.” (Ronnie, 06:11)

• Freedom Dinner Callback:
  “Boom. … It just arrives and he’s laughing.” (Lindsay, on Lindsay’s sudden swipes at Carl, 28:56)

• On the Kyle-Amanda Standoff:
  “Kyle just looks at a man and goes, ‘You.’ And she’s like, ‘Kyle. What? God, it’s like, Kyle, you know, and this is when I’m like, see, I can’t even stand up for you in my mind.’” (Ronnie, 49:37)

• Hosts’ Emotional Tension:
  “You’re constantly like, I have sympathy for what he’s going through. And then I’m also reminded of, like, the ways that he’s contributed and been awful to the situation. And I’m like, I don’t know what to do with this.” (Lindsay, 50:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Summary | |--------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:51–06:36 | Ben & Sabrina: Emotional walls & religious trauma | | 07:29–11:10 | Amanda/Mia on Sierra & Wes; Amanda’s protectiveness | | 11:28–13:53 | Sierra pitches separation to Kyle (after Amanda) | | 21:14–27:22 | Pre-dinner antics, flirting, chef cameo, Bailey/Carl banter | | 27:37–36:33 | “Lost and Found” game at Freedom Dinner; makeout, revelations | | 36:39–44:13 | Dinner turns: Kyle’s new DJ career, Amanda’s reaction, group critique | | 44:13–53:28 | Blow-up: partnership debates, “You” fight, Kyle storms out |

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Tone & Signature Moments

• Tone: Playfully biting, insightful, and deeply empathetic even when mocking
• Memorable Bits:
  • Ronnie and Lindsay’s psychoanalysis of Ben
  • Ribbing about thongs, magic tricks, and Freedom Dinner flashbacks
  • Empathy for Sierra, KJ’s heartfelt story, and pointed critiques of both Kyle and Amanda
  • The explosive fight, emphasizing emotional fatigue and group dynamics

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Conclusion

Ben and Ronnie’s recap artfully balances Bravo-level shade with sincere attempts to understand the cast’s flaws and motivations, never missing an opportunity for humor or a teachable moment. The Summer House drama is in peak form, with relationship meltdowns, late-in-the-season revelations, and alliances shifting before our eyes.
Standout themes: cycles of withholding love, emotional avoidance, what it means to be a supportive (or unsupported) partner, and whether some couples are simply doomed by incompatibility.

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[Ronnie]

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[Lindsay]

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[Lindsay]

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[Ronnie]

So Ben's like, well, you know, she doesn't spat. She's just like, chill. She wears a heart on her sleeve and a collar on her neck. I mean, it's perfect for me cuz I don't get my, I don't get my head ever. Cuz she's constantly reassuring me of where we're at, which I didn't realize was actually very important to me. Okay, that sounds extremely annoying cuz, you know, Sabrina's like, where are we? What are you thinking? How are you feeling right now? How are you feeling? Here's how I'm feeling. I'm totally just.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, she's of course going to be super sweet to you right now because a, if she doesn't, you're going to get steely cold with her, which we already have seen. And second of all, she wants to be on this TV show. She's like, just putting in my deposits, putting in my deposits till I could be a full time cast member on Summer House.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, he's saying, well, I haven't said I love you to her yet. So I, I'll say that and then maybe I'll ask her to be my girlfriend at the same time. You know, it's a big moment. I haven't said I love you in 15 years.

[Lindsay]

Oh, that's something you get an award for for being emotionally inaccessible. Go see a therapist. All right? It's not that big of a deal to call yourself, to get, call yourself boyfriend, girlfriend. Okay? He's like, like, do you want. All right, is she your girlfriend? I have to say I love you first. No, you don't. You don't. Get out of here, you. I can't stand this guy Ben.

[Ronnie]

So this is the end of his storyline, basically. You know, they're like, give Ben a monologue. So he's like, yeah, I'd love to be free and easy. Like, I'm in. I can't even read this. It's just he had a girlfriend in high school. He had his dad. He's saying his dad was very religious, like born again. Here it is. So he was, you know, like you don't have before marriage. And so his whole life the dad was like, when you get older, there's going to be things and decisions you've got to make, which I won't agree with, but just so you know, I'll always love you. But then I had an indiscretion with a high school girlfriend, and he didn't talk to me for years. So. Yeah, I don't use that word lightly. Well, he probably wouldn't have had a problem if you said, I'm in love with. I'm in love with this person and committed to this person. It was the sex, not the saying I love you part. You know what I know.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So.

[Lindsay]

So what Ben is basically saying is that his dad withheld love and his dad was really up because of it and something he's had to deal with, so he's going to rectify the. The traumas of the past by withholding love as well. Got it. Okay.

[Ronnie]

Like, you're really good today. You're really on the.

[Lindsay]

I'm really on one.

[Ronnie]

You're really on the psychotherapy beat today.

[Lindsay]

I love it.

[Ronnie]

But.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. Realize he's perpetuating the cycle. Come on.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so. But otherwise, you know, I do blame religion, literally, for everything, including long lives, long lines at McDonald's.

[Lindsay]

I'm like, I. Yes. The answer is yes to that. But this was actually interesting, believe it or not. I did find this interesting, because now I had a greater context to why he is awful. And now we see, like, he literally has this overbearing religious father, and that's messed him up for sure.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. But I get that, like, okay, well, I'm not gonna say I love somebody because my daddy will get mad at me, but you're still people left and right, so what's the difference? I don't.

[Lindsay]

I don't know.

[Ronnie]

How's that punishing your dad? It's only punishing the women, you know? I don't know. This sounds like to me, is what I'm saying.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Unless he was like, well, my dad is so religious, and then it's forced me into being a virgin for all these years to please my dad. But he's not. He's just not saying I love you to people. He's. He's screwing over women instead of, like, by just using them for sex instead saying, I love you to please his dad, who got mad at him for having sex. So he. Now he's having. I don't know. It's nothing really me. But I don't really trust Ben anyway, so.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, I just. There's some. I don't I just don't trust this guy. I'm telling you. So Jesse is like, well, listen, I was really excited for the potential of you and I being the single guys ripping it up, but if there's one person I'm happy to see to lose you to, it's Sabrina. Also, you can tell her to stop texting me 20 text messages a day that I haven't responded. That should usually be a signal to pump the brakes. Sabrina. Sabrina the teenage texter. Am I right?

[Ronnie]

Oh, mate. Oh, mate. That means a lot. Thanks, brother. And let me tell you, she loves you too. Just so you know. He's like, yeah, yeah, I could. I could feel it. I can feel it. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah, tell her maybe. I know the less likes on my Instagram super weird. Like, sometimes she'll like a post and then she'll un it and relike it again. Like, I saw that you liked it.

[Lindsay]

Okay, so now we have the scene that I think we all cringed right through. And this is Mia and Amanda sitting in beach chairs. And Mia's asking how Amanda's weekend alone was. Amanda's like, it was fabulous. The best weekend of my whole life. You know, I needed it. But, like, how is after soft bar, by the way? You guys ended up going for drinks, you know, And Amanda's and. And Mia's like, yeah. And so Amanda's like, what happened with. That's like, well, first of all, you're a. Because you left me. You were supposed to come with me. So I guess was. Was it implied that Mia and Amanda were supposed to go along to this double date thing with.

[Ronnie]

No, but it was a double. It was like the double date. And then I guess people invited after, like, at the soft bar thing, like, added people on. And Amanda's like, well, I didn't go because I just felt like someone wanted. And we see flashback to three days ago where Jesse being like, are you

[Lindsay]

gonna go to this thing?

[Ronnie]

It's like, that's just so weird. Like, I don't think I got an invite. So,

[Lindsay]

yeah, I wasn't sure really what was going on, but she obviously did not attend something. And Amanda's like, so it was like. So it was the. The double date was supposed to be Ben and Sabrina with Sierra and West, right?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. They were going to go out after the soft bar, and then I guess other people were added on, and Amanda was like, well, I'm not going to go because I didn't. I didn't get invited. And I think it was just everybody there was like, are we going to go to this thing? Come on, let's all go. And she was like, no, now it's a date. Because now she has it in her mind, like, oh, now I'll be showing up on their date.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. So she's like, the last thing I would ever do is just, like, invite Sierra and Wes out on, like, an intimate date. They, like, just became friends. Mia's like, but, yeah, I think it's too soon. You know? She goes, yeah, because, like, even if they did get back together, I don't know, Like, I. I just not. They don't seem like they'll be. I wouldn't be happy with that. And. Because literally, what would make me the happiest person in the whole entire world? The whole. The happiest would be, like, if they were good, right? She says something like that.

[Ronnie]

She's like, well, if they got back together, I'd be happy about it, but, you know, only if he's ready, because he's not ready, you know? And my thing is, he needs to be ready. You know, it's him, not her. And she's. Me is like, yeah, I mean, he needs to be all the way in, and he can't just, you know, her again like that. She's like, yeah, I'm very wary of him. Mm, I'm sure you are. I'm sure you are. Very wary of him. Watching him going on these little double dates and watching him over there flirting with Sierra right now, that is really boiling your bunny.

[Lindsay]

So Mia says that, you know, she was. She says, you know, it's my concern that. And, like, it's not Sierra at all. It's like, making sure that Wes doesn't find his way back in and then be like, oh, well, I'm actually not ready to do anything too serious right now, which is, of course, what we know would have happened anyway, regardless of the scandal. So Amanda is like, yeah, because, you know, like, Sierra is, like, very special. She's a very special, incredible person, and you need to treat her differently than any other woman in the world. Like, until a man is capable of doing that, I don't trust anyone with her heart. It's like, oh, this is not aging well.

[Ronnie]

The music they were playing during this was so funny, too. It was like, oh, sucker. If the music could have had lyrics, it would have been, like, so cool.

[Lindsay]

So cool.

[Ronnie]

She's like, you know, I would die for that girl. And the way that I'd cut west off in One second. If she looked at me, like, if she gave me one look, I'd be like, I'm gonna attack, girl.

[Lindsay]

No, cut it out. I just kept on hearing Annie Lennox, wow. Like, why are these things. Why are you saying these things? Oh, my God. They're not good.

[Ronnie]

Meanwhile, it turns out if he gave you one look, you'd cut her the off, which is what happened.

[Lindsay]

That's exactly right.

[Ronnie]

So now it's later. West is taking photos of Sierra. People are dancing and taking selfies. Ben gets in the water, and Sierra goes to have the talk with Kyle. So she's like, well, with the couple's therapy this week. Yeah. Do you guys, like, feel like you're in a better state than you were? He's like, well, yeah, she took the sheer. I mean, she went. So. So the sheer fact that she wanted all, like. I mean, we're in a way better place, you know? I think the real question is, like, are we both gonna put in the effort? It's like, yeah, look. Well, we met up, obviously, like, right after you guys had, like, couples therapy. And, like, I don't know. Sometimes, like, it sounds like it's. What was her demeanor? Well, like, she was happy to go and, like, finally be able to say everything, but, like, at the same time, like, we were talking about it. And I feel like your frustration exists because, like, you guys have never, like, had a moment. You, like, you live on top of each other. You know, you used to work together. Your office is right there. And I'm like, look, would it be a crazy idea if you guys just, like, physically just, like, separated for a month? And he's just stay silent like, okay, now you're gonna break up. Now Amanda's gonna break up with me on TV through one of her friends, which is basically what's happening, because Sierra's like, okay, you don't want to separate. I'll get you separated on tv. Don't you worry. I'll do it. I'll do it for you.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. I feel. I feel like this was a bit of an overstep from Sierra. Just a little bit. Like, it's just. It's a dicey thing, or it's almost like. I wouldn't tell both parties. Like, tell one party and then let them handle it, but don't tell both of them.

[Ronnie]

I don't know why I see why she's doing it, because she did tell Amanda, and Amanda was like, well, Kyle, never go for it. So she's like, okay, fine, I'll talk to Kyle. But, yeah, this isn't your. I mean, I get it.

[Lindsay]

She's sick of it.

[Ronnie]

It.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, she's sick of it. She's been hearing of it, and it's, like, so uncomfortable in this house. It's like, it. I'm just gonna tell them that you guys gotta break up, because, by the way, we all feel it. Right. But it's like. It's just a tricky. It's a tricky thing to say. To say. I think it's tricky to say it to both parties. I don't know why I almost feel like it's one thing to tell, like, your friend, be like, maybe you should propose this. But, like, at that point, you told your friend you, like, here's my advice. And now it's like, you've given this advice to your friend, and they have to go. And they have to go do it. They have to propose it to their partner. And I think doing it on both sides, you run the risk of just seeming like someone who wants them to break up.

[Ronnie]

And, yeah, giving your opinion, I think is valid. I mean, I think that Amanda's basically been asking for this for years. And I think all the girls have been. You know, all the close friends to Amanda have been like, okay, you guys need. This is not okay anymore, you know? But Amanda's really been selling it this season. She's like, yeah, it's time for you guys to separate. It's time for you guys to separate. It's time to separate. And now she's like, okay, it's not working. So I'm gonna go to Kyle. I'm gonna go straight to Kyle. I was like, damn, it's. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. Lately, I've been more intentional about what I wear day to day, and I'm leaning into pieces that feel easy and comfortable, but still put together. It just makes getting dressed simpler. Quince has been my go to. The fabrics feel elevated, the fits are clean, and everything just works without needing to overthink it.

[Lindsay]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

So he just stays silent. She's like, I mean, I know you guys love each other, you know, but, like, you know, this is bringing bad stuff upon you guys. And he's like, well, wait, have you talked to her about us taking some time away or is this a fresh idea? Yeah. And she's like, yeah, it's not fresh. I'm sorry, what would she say? Well, she said she would be open to that, but she didn't think you would be open to that. So I'm just like a broker. I'm a divorce broker.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So see, that's the 5% of whatever. Whatever. The divorce. Maybe.

[Lindsay]

Maybe this was more the overstep, saying she would be open to that. Maybe she, her sponsor, been like, it's not really my place to say this for you guys to have that conversation, but I just. I. I floated around because we're all in this house watch you guys be miserable, and it's ruining everyone's summer, and you're the king of summer. Should be fun, and you're ruining it for all of us. So you guys fix this. Like, maybe that's what the approach should have been. But her saying, yeah, she'd be open to that, maybe, like, it's so that's such a tricky thing with, like, a marriage. I don't know. I. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Lindsay]

Just. It wasn't the biggest. Like, I just would have been, like, I don't know if I would have waited. Didn't love that.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And Kyle's like, I'm kind of shocked. I mean, the fact that there's separation conversations happening within our friend group, unbeknownst to me, while we're trying our best to put our foot forward in therapy, I mean, it's disheartening. Like, we're supposed to be putting it all out there with the therapist, and now it feels like there's an elephant in the room and I'm second guessing what we're even doing. I mean, come on. And, I mean, I get that. It's like, okay, so we've been going to therapy to be honest with each other, but meanwhile, this whole time she's been talking about leaving me, and she's not telling me, like, what the hell.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I mean, on the other hand, Amanda has been threatening to leave him for, like, years, so it's not like this should be that new to him. So he's like, well, when did you talk to her? When you walked the dog? I mean, look, I. You Said she's receptive. I mean, that's just scary. She goes, yeah, it's not easy for me to say either. Like, look, let me just tell you, this divorce is really hard on me.

[Lindsay]

Look at KJ over there. Look, he can't even stay awake.

[Ronnie]

It's not harder on anybody than K.J.

[Lindsay]

oh, my God. K.J.

[Ronnie]

divorce is going to break K.J.

[Lindsay]

he's like, it's going to break him different spaces. So

[Ronnie]

go back to bed. KJ

[Lindsay]

why is he crawling into a refrigerator? It's my comfort face. So Sierra's like, look, I just don't want you guys to be so miserable. Like, you don't deserve to be miserable. You know, it's like, I just. I don't know what exactly she wants, if I'm being honest. And then cut to Dara saying, this bathing suit is riding up my anal cavity, you know? And Dara.

[Ronnie]

So now Sierra is pointing to Ben. They're just making jokes at each other. She's like. Bailey's like, you.

[Carl]

Oh, my God, you look like somebody from the Adams family.

[Ronnie]

So now it's time to go. And then when his hair is wet,

[Lindsay]

looks like George Washington, which is the gist of that, which was funny.

[Ronnie]

But, yeah, whenever. Whenever it comes to Ben, I start. My eyes just kind of cloud over, and I start skipping the. The paragraph. So sorry. So Carl's like, oh, we're gonna stay back, guys. You can. You. You guys can head back. No worries. But I'm gonna stay back here for a minute.

[Carl]

Oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

Carl's nervous about dinner.

[Lindsay]

So back at the house, everyone's arriving. Levi doesn't have a towel. Bailey's telling her that her vagina's out. Chef's arrived. And Lindsay's like, hello, chefs.

[Carl]

The kitchen's right in here. I'm gonna go get ready real quick. I'll let you do your thing.

[Lindsay]

And then it was just sort of funny because later on when Lindsay comes back, the chef was like, hey, you get cleaned up real nice. I was like, excuse me, sir. Just stick to chopping asparagus.

[Ronnie]

This chef was something else. He comes in, like, won't smile. He's like, whatever. I love a surly chef. So now people are getting ready for dinner, and Amanda's like, oh, my God, Wes, your hair. Your hair is ridiculous. You should wear your hair like that. He's like, yeah, well, Sierra told me that my hair sucked twice at dinner already, so.

[Lindsay]

Oh, I'm injured. So the. Ben's on the phone with Sabrina. It's like, oh, Sabrina, you were up. She goes, yeah, I'm just in bed. Okay, well, I'm excited to see you tomorrow. Big old squeeze when you get here. Me too. I can't wait to get here. Can't wait at all. As she hangs up, the phone is just, like, on, like, hiding on the side of the house. Okay, 12 more hours before I can go inside. 12 more hours.

[Ronnie]

So Amanda goes by Kyle in their room and doesn't say anything. And he's like, oh, hey, hey, hey, Amanda. Hey, man, I'm gonna put on some music. Is that okay? And she just doesn't answer him.

[Lindsay]

He's like, amanda. So now Lindsay goes down to the kitchen, and that's when the chef is like, oh, you clean up nice.

[Carl]

Yeah, okay. Like, quick, turn around. How are you doing in here? Like, how long. How long have you been a chef for?

[Lindsay]

He's like, 20 plus years.

[Carl]

Oh, holy cow. You've been poor that long?

[Lindsay]

Yeah, and I've been cooking for 20 years.

[Carl]

Wow. So did you always know that's what you wanted to do?

[Lindsay]

He's like, yeah, it was either that or it was gonna be a dj or it's gonna be an architect.

[Carl]

Oh, that makes sense. You know, we have one of those.

[Lindsay]

An architect now. Dj.

[Carl]

Yeah.

[Lindsay]

Then Kyle walks in. Hey, what's going on? Fellow DJ slash architect.

[Ronnie]

Wow. It's good to see somebody who took the turn I could have taken, you know? I chose right. I'll say that.

[Lindsay]

Loser. Loser.

[Ronnie]

So Lindsay's like, yeah, he was gonna be either a chef or a dj. You chose to correct correct path. Because DJ is not it.

[Lindsay]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, Whoa.

[Ronnie]

Lindsay is just on everybody's ass this whole episode.

[Lindsay]

I love it. Because she. She's like, I've missed half of the summer because I've been taking care of a baby. So I'm cramming all my drama into these episodes that I get to be on.

[Ronnie]

She's just coming in and being an to everybody. So now people start coming in to have dinner, and Levi's like, carl, what's the vibe going on with you and. Oh, she's talking to Bailey, and she's like, what's going on with the vibe with you and Carl?

[Carl]

She's like, I don't know. I don't even know if I'm flirting anymore. Oh, geez. I mean, I don't know.

[Ronnie]

Like, I've shown my interest. I can't do anything more now. Let's just, like, light flirting, I guess. Carl and I have been flirty texting all summer. Look at this. I'll meet you on the corner of 32nd and 6. Okay, we'll see you there. I mean, it's basically like a romance novel. And, you know, I'm just not sure if it's going to be more than texting. Like, maybe it's just flirty texting for the summer. I'm open to whatever it could become.

[Lindsay]

Here's a little tip from Uncle Ben to you. Learn some magic tricks. He's really into that whole little flashback to lil. Lil flashbacks, 10 lines and magic. My favorite.

[Ronnie]

Oh, so now car Kyle is laying down with an eye mask on, and Amanda comes into the kitchen. And Amanda's like, mother Hubber, do you need help? Oh, my God. Look at Chef Frank baby. Big Frank in the house. So everybody comes in. It's all smelling great. So they're all wearing black. Wow. And now they are gonna sit down and have some dinner.

[Lindsay]

Well, and. But first, though, Jesse is. He spills. He spills some, like, martini on his shirt, and he's like, hey, Bailey, what happens if you spill some, like, martini on your shirt?

[Carl]

Well, hypothetically speaking, nothing really happens because it's, you know, clear liquid, you know, but it smells terrible. We gotta. We gotta dry that off.

[Lindsay]

So she starts, like, wiping off his shirt. And from this camera angle, from behind, looks like she's jerking him off.

[Carl]

She's like, I can't even imagine what this looks like from a different angle.

[Lindsay]

Like, you don't have to imagine it. We're seeing it.

[Ronnie]

So now KJ and Sierra are trying on their grills because their grills were delivered, so they're trying them on, and they look. They look cute. I mean, they've got jewels all over their teeth and stuff. And so now they're ready to go down to dinner, and Carl's like, oh, my God, Bailey, you look great, by the way. It's probably your best outfit of the summer.

[Lindsay]

Probably the best, y'. All. I mean, I wish I showed off more of those tan lines, but at the same time, I love the modesty that you're showing.

[Carl]

Oh, really?

[Lindsay]

So you like a more modest look then, Carl, right? Yeah, I love modest tan lines. Oh, my God. Have you ever seen someone from 1736 with a tan line?

[Ronnie]

Oh, yeah.

[Lindsay]

Right around their ankles. So good.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's my least slutty, and you're saying it's my best. So you like something more classic is what you're saying? Wait, wait, though. The soft bar, your white dress, that was good.

[Lindsay]

That was really good.

[Ronnie]

And we see her dress that she Was wearing a flashback, and she's like, oh, you like that? But that was completely see through. Oh, I know, I know.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. When you walk past, I was like, oh, you look great, by the way. Way.

[Carl]

All right.

[Lindsay]

Put your. Put your modesty on me.

[Ronnie]

But you can see my butt. And you like that. Did it look good? Yeah, but I could see your thong, too. That was like. That's like this. That's like the tan line of underwear.

[Lindsay]

Like, let me see your thong. That thong. The thong. Thong, Thong.

[Carl]

Okay, Carl, that's a bit too much. Well, that was intentional.

[Lindsay]

You're supposed to see the thong. Oh, really? So does the dress come with a thong? No, it's.

[Carl]

This isn't. That doesn't work that way. This isn't like us. This isn't like a stereo set.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's for you to see it. Oh, for me? Well, I mean, you. Isn't everybody. Oh, it's for everybody to see. Okay, now when you're getting ready, are you, like, looking in the mirror at your ass? Are you like, oh, my God, I'm wearing a thong? Did this dress come with a thong?

[Carl]

Kyle, are we really still talking about this? Have.

[Lindsay]

Do you understand how dresses work and underwear? Well, now question. When you look at your ass in the mirror, how do you actually look at it? Do you, like, look over your left shoulder, your right shoulder? Just, like, walk me through the process.

[Ronnie]

So now everybody sits down to eat, and then they're loving the grills. Loving all the grills. And then Amanda sits next to Sierra and gives a strange look and is, like, kind of mimicking west when he walks away. And Lindsay's like, oh, yeah, Everybody just stop. It's time for a speech. Exactly one day, one year ago, I hosted a freedom dinner. And I'm here to tell you I'm still free.

[Lindsay]

And we see a flashback to last year.

[Carl]

Like, aussie girl, thank you for setting me free so I can go and accomplish my dreams.

[Lindsay]

So Kyle's like, well, how did. How do we let you do this again? And so then Wes claps.

[Ronnie]

So the night dinner is called the lost supper. So we're gonna play a little game. They're like, o. Oh, no, not a game. Come on, you're just being messy. No, we're going to play a little game of lost and found. So everyone's going to go around the table and talk about something they lost recently and something they found. So, like, Carl lost me, but then he found a bunch of thirsty girls in his dms. So congratulations, Carl.

[Lindsay]

The way she will Just take a swipe at Carl out of left field. It's so funny. To me, it's just like. Like you never know when it's going to come. And it just.

[Carl]

Boom.

[Lindsay]

It just arrives and he's laughing.

[Ronnie]

You know, I know people, the people who do hate Lindsay. I mean, think like, why is she always with Carl? I mean, it's true, but I think Lindsay's like, love language is with people. I think this is Lindsay trying to be nice to Carl, believe it or not.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. It's like, it is her weird love language. If he laughs, then. Then it's like, safe. So Lindsay goes, well, this can go

[Carl]

in any direction you want to go in.

[Lindsay]

And so Sierra's like, well, yeah, it's going better than last year so far. So they start off with Lindsay says,

[Carl]

okay, well, I lost all my timelines, but I found my dream girl.

[Lindsay]

Like, oh, yeah. Because we all knew this was just going to be about a way to say, like, I have a baby. And then Bailey's turn is.

[Carl]

Well, I would say when I came in the house, I clearly came in with, like, a lot of package because last summer I lost. Lost a really bad, dark relationship that I'm happy was left to the past. And I would say that this summer I found joy again.

[Lindsay]

And a thong. Did that thong come with your joy or did you buy it separately? I'm still a little confused.

[Carl]

I also found my ability to walk

[Ronnie]

into a sweet greens and order my own salad. Thank you. Well, thank you very much.

[Lindsay]

Right?

[Ronnie]

But also, also, don't forget your storyline. You can flirt the bag of potatoes.

[Carl]

Thank you, Levi. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I can and make out now.

[Lindsay]

I understand how to do that.

[Carl]

If anyone wants to try it on me, I will help. I will happily do it. Carl, just give it. Just take the first step.

[Ronnie]

The Sierra is like, oh, my God. Should you make out with Carl right now just for fun? They're like, oh, my God. Make out. Everybody make out.

[Lindsay]

Here we go. So they make up.

[Ronnie]

And everyone's like, everyone's screaming, going crazy. They're like, was it a good kiss? Like, yeah, it's great. Freedom.

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[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Lindsay]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's my turn. Well, no, I'm just gonna say this to the audience. I actually want to. Want to make out with her again because, like, it was really a good makeup. You know when you plug your charger in the wall and you just nail it. The first plug in, it was like that. Wow.

[Lindsay]

I laughed at that. I actually laughed at that. I was like, because I do know what that's.

[Ronnie]

You should write porn.

[Lindsay]

I know.

[Ronnie]

You should write erotic stories. Falling into her was like getting my charger in in the first try.

[Lindsay]

I do remember. I do remember one time in my old apartment, like, parking my car and, like, going to, like, the door into the building. And, like, I took out my key and went, boom. Fresh. Right into the keyhole, right? Like, not on first shot. I was like, wow. Then I got to my door, I was like, boom. It was like two in a row. And I was like, this is the best day ever. I have never, like, so exciting.

[Ronnie]

I just came. I just came.

[Lindsay]

Oh, it's just like. Just like that.

[Ronnie]

But you got to warn people before you tell these stories. So Wes is like, well, I guess that last summer I lost my voice, but this summer, I think what I found was, like, kind of the ability to, like, I don't know, like, speak up. And also I found, like, a friendship and, like, a relationship that was clearly lost for a long time. And I was like, oh, my God. Wow. Wow. And it, like, Felt like a zillion pounds off my shoulders. Because, like, the most important thing is that I make the people in the audience not attack me on Instagram so harshly. So. Thank you.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Thank you.

[Lindsay]

Yeah. And Sierra goes. Oh, Wesling. Wesling Conrad Wilson. I mean, he, like, yeah. I mean, even that just. That speech I probably couldn't have done last summer. Look, I. Look, it's, like, really amazing. And KJ's like, wow. And Sierra's like, no, you couldn't. Wesley Conrad Wilson. Okay. Oh, wow. She's, like, really so happy. And so then they ask kj, and he says how he lost his brother when he was a kid, and that's always been tough stuff. And his brother was, like, 17 or 18, and so he never really had an older brother. He's only had sort of like, father figure types or older type of men in his life, but he's never really had bros. And so being able to have, like, the boys and they're, like, dynamic and feeling comfortable, like, do you understand what it's like to nap around your bros? Like, that's just so special. And I just, like. I just, like, feel really welcomed here. So it's a cute moment with kj, and it's like, yeah. Everyone's like, kj.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. The audience was like, oh, my God,

[Carl]

protect KJ at all costs.

[Ronnie]

So Sierra's like, okay, that was so pretty. Okay, my turn. So my huge weight off my shoulders that I lost was having to be mad at somebody that I love the most. Westling. And, you know, the thing that I found were the bars.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And Carl's like, yeah, welcome to the Hamptons, by the way. Because a lot of that also had to do with Paige leaving the show and you guys getting out of bed.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, that's true, too. But notably that she says, I did. I. I no longer had to hate or dislike the person that I genuinely love the most, which is cringy, because he. She's literally saying that to him, and he is gonna be like, cool, don't care gonna hurt you.

[Ronnie]

So then, yeah, they're definitely on different pages here, because I think she's thinking they're gonna. They're kind of, like, inching back together. Everybody thinks they're inching back together. Yeah.

[Lindsay]

And she gets up and they, like. She kisses him on the cheek. They have like, a nice, like, hug moment. It's, like, really nice. And if we didn't know about the scandal, we'd be like, this is so great that this is going in this direction.

[Ronnie]

You know, I wouldn't be. Absolutely not. If this was, I would be like, God damn it, Sierra, stop it. Stop. I would still be yelling at Sierra.

[Lindsay]

I do think, though, that the audience at large would be like, oh, my God. Like, this is, like, nice resolution. Like, it feels like we're moving forward. So now it's time for Kyle's.

[Carl]

And Lindsay's like, kyle lost his wedding ring, but he found a DJ career. Okay, cool.

[Lindsay]

And so then there's, like, Jesse goes, hey, by the way, Kyle. Hey. Can I ask you a question? I know you mentioned you got a new manager. I was just curious what the plan is with the DJing and the music stuff. Hope this doesn't kick off some sort of volatile fight. Okay, here you go.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God, Lindsay saying, that was so cold. And everyone else just went, oh, God, Lindsay. Like, everybody cringed at that. But she's like. She's just cracking up. Just has this huge smile on her face.

[Carl]

She's like, nailed it.

[Ronnie]

So Jesse asked that question, like, what are you going to do? What's your plan with the djing stuff? And Amanda goes, oh, he's going to Vegas.

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And they're like, what? And then he gets really serious. And, you know, I get like, we've. He's. They've been talking about this the whole season. And I've also been yelling at Kyle the whole season. I get it. And I don't take any of that back. You should still not be telling your wife to off after leaving 6 months. Etc. You guys don't need me to repeat myself for the nine millionth time. But it's like he's about to do. He's been working hard at something. We might not respect what it is, but he's been working hard at something for a long time and is about to, like, enter a new kind of plateau. Like. Like, not plateau, but like a new stage, a new level. You know what I mean?

[Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And he doesn't even get to announce it himself. Amanda does it in a snarky way, and then they all treat it like this. I feel like if it was anybody else who was like, you guys, I've been working at this thing for, like, years, and now I'm finally gonna get a manager who's gonna get me, like, a residency in Vegas. Everybody.

[Lindsay]

Whoa. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

It's just like, oh.

[Lindsay]

There was, like. It was weird watching this whole thing play out because I really. Despite all the. That we talked, despite the scandal that's happening, despite Amanda being a drip, Amanda does not deserve to be. Does not deserve to have Anyone, especially her husband, look at her and say, you a second time this summer, let alone the first time. And now he doesn't have the excuse of being wasted. He just looks at him, says, you in this argument, I think that's totally unacceptable. Totally, totally unacceptable. And I do think that Kyle, like, has contributed to the decay of this marriage hugely by not being present, by traveling, and like, she's expressed exactly what she needs out of this relationship. And he instead has gone out and continue, continued to party, yada, yada, yada. But I did feel like weirdly sympathetic towards him during this, despite the, the terrible things that also happened that he did, because I feel like what he was trying to say, and I was, I was hoping that he would actually say it was like, I'm trying. I got a manager, I'm treating this like a career. So that way I can be more selective so I can spend more time with Amanda rather than doing all these little gigs. I can do some big gigs and make a bunch of money off of it and have more time and get that work life balance. And it seemed like he was trying to say it. And I don't want to put words in Kyle's mouth and I don't want to, you know, try to give him some sort of like, sympathetic, sympathetic hypothetical of what he was saying. But when he kept on saying, like, I'm trying to be, do something that's select, I can be more selective with what I'm doing. I'm like, bro, just say, say you're trying to improve your work life balance. You can spend more time with your wife. But he kept on saying, he. He kept on saying it in this way that I was like, oh, you're not doing yourself any favors right now.

[Ronnie]

Well, he said, I'm signing with a manager that represents some big acts and I'm going to be a little more selective than I was in terms of where I put my energy. And I'm going to treat it like a career, not a hobby. And next week I'm going to Vegas to play Marquis. But it's not just Vegas. I would be selectively choosing where I go now. So is it residency? And he's like, well, we're working that for 2026. And he's like, okay, well that's great money then, right? And then Kyle and Amanda are just staring at each other like she's giving him, like, wide eyed, I was poking out of her head stare off, like, kind of smirking at him. And Lindsay says, okay, well, I have a question. Did you even ask Amanda before you made this decision, or did you make the decision on your own?

[Lindsay]

And Kyle's like, no, this is something she's been. She's known I've been working on.

[Carl]

But did you have a conversation as

[Lindsay]

a partner with your wife before you dec it? He's like, well, I haven't signed it yet. So the answer is no, Kyle, you did not have a conversation with your wife, which is not good either. God, this marriage is so decrepit and so flimsy. It's terrible. Like, it just. I. They are just so terrible to each other.

[Ronnie]

Well, we saw them have the conversation about it, so we. He did tell her about it. He did have the conversation with her on camera in their apartment when he was like, I'm talking to this manager, and she's like, well, I didn't marry a d. So he did talk to her about it. She just doesn't like it and doesn't support it, and he's gonna do it anyway, so.

[Lindsay]

But it was more like he announced what he was doing. He. It wasn't like a, hey, this is something I. I would like to pursue. It was more like, I'm doing this.

[Ronnie]

Well, that's true. She let her. She. Her feelings were. Her feelings are known on the subject, right? She is not into it, and he's gonna do it anyway, and that's it. You know, I would want to be married to that, right? I wouldn't want to be married to that. But they have had the conversation, and it didn't go well, so. Yikes. So Kyle's like, well, you know, like, we're going to have the conversation maybe one on one tomorrow, and everybody just starts laughing at him and Ss, like,

[Lindsay]

okay, did you not see the rundown? Did you not see the rundown? Like, tomorrow afternoon, we sit on two Adironic chairs. We talk about this, bro, like, you're trying fast forwarding our shooting schedule here, here.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so you're taking on another business venture like, that's going to take over everything. He's like, well, I've been traveling and promoting lover boy since everything opened up from the pandemic. But this brings me joy and happiness, and it pays the bills, and I think I'm good at it. So he's saying, I've always been traveling this much, and Amanda only has a problem with it now because it has to do with DJing, you know, but it's not really. I mean, she had a problem when it was all lover boy, too, because that was her last Complaint last year was that you're traveling all the time for lover boy. So then it's the same thing. You're giving yourself an excuse to go be drunk in bars with fans instead of being at home, you know?

[Lindsay]

Right.

[Carl]

So Lindsay's like, well, where I get confused is how Carl can have so many people in his DMS when he's such a. Sorry. Also where I also get confused is you guys are like married and you guys have a partnership and you're supposed to be aligned in that partnership about what your future goals are together as a family, as a unit, and as a team together.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Carl]

And it just feels like as an

[Lindsay]

outsider, it's like, well, no, the DJ, the DJs that I aspire to, that I look up to, are married with kids and their wives support them. Like, yeah, but Kyle, are you checking in with those DJs or trying to find out, like, hey, how do you do it? How do you manage it all? No, you're not.

[Ronnie]

Well, they're much more famous and they make a lot of money, you know, doing what they do so they can go do a couple of gigs and then come back with a ton of money is probably how. So Lindsay's like, yeah, but they were already DJs before they were married with kids, Kyle.

[Lindsay]

So Amanda's like, she gives that look and so Lindsay's like, look. Which is funny, by the way, because we're seeing other people fight Amanda's fights, and we saw other people fighting west fights. So this is sort of how they operate. Which is no wonder that they found. Found each other. So Lindsay is like, well, like you.

[Carl]

You took out this career without taking your wife, talking to your wife about it, and now you're continuing to progress it.

[Lindsay]

I just don't understand why my love for playing music for people has been the butt of every joke this last summer. Because it's funny. It's funny because you're like, like you just. You, you. You're like a 43 year old guy who gave up his corporate job to be a dj. That's inherently funny. Whether or not you're good at it, whether or not you're successful, has nothing to do with the fact that it is funny.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. He's like, I just don't. Yeah, I don't get it. And he's like slamming the table like, it's not a joke. My whole point is that when you're in a partnership and you're supposed to talk and Amanda goes, we're supposed to be a team. Yeah. And have A family together. And this is why Amanda at the reunion was like, I want to have a family with someone who wants to have a family. And we see a flashback of that. And she's. Lindsay's like, you're not showing those traits. And, you know, you're just showing that you want to go have a residency in Vegas and that DJing is more important than having a family. And so I get where she's coming from. And he's like, that's not true. She's not ready to have a kid. And you can't. You can blame me all you want.

[Lindsay]

She like, no.

[Carl]

And I have talked to her about it.

[Lindsay]

Blast me all you want. Not. You know, I did not push back at the reunion when she said that, because that. And that hurt because you are not ready and you know that.

[Carl]

Okay. Okay. And she also said that to me.

[Lindsay]

He's like, well, do not blame this on me.

[Carl]

Well, I'm not pulling it. Putting it all on you, and I never have.

[Lindsay]

And Amanda's like, well, forget about the kids.

[Carl]

Remove the kids and the family from it all.

[Ronnie]

Oh, wow.

[Lindsay]

God forbid I do something that I enjoy.

[Ronnie]

Kyle.

[Carl]

Kyle.

[Ronnie]

Well, the last seven years of my life, I've worked my ass off with no joke joy, and I'll have some joy. Yeah, but this is your family right here. And you're. You're not making decisions together is my point. He's like, I'm under attack because I felt all summer long.

[Lindsay]

But by the way, also, Kyle's like, constant refrain is like, I never got to have any fun when it's like 10 years of him getting wasted on this TV show, flopping around, you know, stumbling around the house late at night like, you are having you. You, Kyle, you get to have your fun.

[Ronnie]

Here's my honest opinion. And this is. This opinion has remained consistent. He has the absolute right to do that. If he wants to party every night and he wants to be a dj, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, sure, we're going to make fun of it, I agree. But he should be able to do that. He just needs to be with somebody who also wants to do that. And he's just not with somebody who's. They're just not compatible, you know, a man. They just aren't someone who wants to get stoned and watch TV ever. She needs, like, a Ronnie, you know, she needs a me. And, you know, he needs. I don't know. I don't know what he needs, but some crazy ass mess who wants to go out every night and get faced.

[Lindsay]

They're out there, I think. Yeah, no, I agree. And that's the thing, is that they're. Everyone's trying to fit a square peg into a circular hole. Circle square peg into a square circular hole. And it just. None of this advice really is going to ultimately work because it's just not a relationship that ever had longevity attached to it. It just sort of had inertia and that's it.

[Ronnie]

It.

[Lindsay]

So now Kyle. But now Kyle is. He's like, I feel under attack. This is how I all felt. This is how I felt all. I'm wrong. And it's like I, I was like, I had such mixed emotions watching this because on the one hand, I was. This is where I felt sympathetic. That's like, this is a private thing between me and Amanda and we're just like hanging on by a thread. We're trying to work on this through therapy. And now this is. You're, like, confronting me about this and there's, like, things going on in our relationship that, that I'm like, trying to protect the world from. D d d d I don't feel like talking about it right now. This supposed to be light, fun, dinner, and now you're like, you're like, you're. You're coming at me so hard. But at the same time, I also feel like Kyla's kind of fragile and like the moment that he does have a mirror put up to him because some of the stuff that Lindsay's saying is true too. Like, these are decisions you should be making with your.

[Ronnie]

Everything she's saying is true.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, I think everything is true. She's like, stop being so fragile and just like, listen and just, you know, so it's like, I, I understand his frustration. I, I also feel like it's like when he is faced this, he does have a pattern of, like, when he is faced with hard truths, he flips out and says, I just want to have fun. I just want to be me. It's like a bro. Just like, chill out.

[Ronnie]

I think that's true. But on the other hand, first of all, everything that they're saying is true. Yes. All this is correct information to be telling a husband about, you know, his wife. But on the other hand, from how he's looking at it is like, okay, so I get told off at the beginning of the summer. I sign us up for therapy. I start going to therapy. I'm trying to be nice to Amanda every weekend. She's still being a cold to me. She goes to therapy with me. But then I find out she's telling she's talking to somebody else about leaving me that she's not bringing up into therapy. And now I find out that she's talking to. To Lindsay, who she hates about me. And so from how he's seeing it, he's seeing Amanda go from person to person to about Kyle, and he's getting all of the. All of the cast to kind of come after Kyle. And meanwhile, Amanda's getting away with doing nothing in their marriage and then just sitting there smirking while everybody tells him off, which is what she's doing. I mean, she's sitting there like giving this like little wide eyed smile while everybody's selling him off, like she's loving it. So I think from his end he's like, well, this like now Amanda's like playing everybody against me. And you all are sitting here acting like she's like the ultimate victim when what the hell does she do? And so he goes off in this like. So he starts losing his mind now and he's like, don't gang up on me. And they're like, we're not ganging up. And Ben's like, guys, if there's a manager, the manager just job is trying to make sure he does good jobs less often. And what he's saying is he's been running around the country all the time taking whatever he can to build a career, you know, And Kyle just looks at a man and goes, you. And she's like, kyle. What? God, it's like, Kyle, you know, and this is when I'm like, see, I can't even stand up for you in my mind. Yeah, because then you turn around and you do something like that.

[Lindsay]

Yeah, exactly. And I'm so glad you brought up the point about like, how he's also reacting to the stuff that he just learned from Sierra earlier the day because he is really feeling like, oh, here I thought we were making progress. And actually Amanda's going around telling, like complaining about me, and now it's getting to the point where she's like thinking about moving out and he's just like feeling really frustrated by that. So, like, I really, I really felt that and I understood that. But then he does this and you're like, but bro know, like, you also need to be able to like, listen and hear things. And like, that is something that we've witnessed time and time and time again. When Amanda last year or two years ago was like, I just want to have, like, I want to start my own little business. He's like, but why? And then. And then he. Of all the people. The. The. What came out of that conversation of Amanda saying that she wanted to start a business was him actually starting a DJ career. He actually used that conversation to start a new career, and while also simultaneously keeping her down. And so it's like. It's actually so interesting because it's like, you're constantly like, I have sympathy for what he's going through. And then I'm also reminded of, like, the ways that he's contributed and been awful to the situation. And I'm like, I don't know what to do with this. But right now, the moment when he says you to her, I'm like, so you're gonna. Now you've lost. You've lost the argument because. Yeah, he just can't do that.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. He's such a baby. Oh, my God. And I think that's why he's saying you to her, because he's like, okay, so now you've turned everybody. You've gone to every single person in this house, and now they're all coming at me after dinner like, congratulations. You know, but even if you feel that way, saying you to your w. I mean, what is wrong with you? You're never gonna. You're never gonna win like this. Kyle, you idiot. So Amanda's like, you're blacking out, Kyle. And he's like, I don't even know what this is about. And Lindsay's like, the. You are not okay, Kyle. And then west pulls up his chair, and he sits right behind Amanda like the bodyguard, like. Like, this is not okay. You know? And I've said this summer. Don't say that.

[Lindsay]

He said, that's the one thing I've stood up for this summer as. He's, like, proud. He's like, I've been a. About everything but this. But then Wes pulling that chair over and then sitting, like, behind Amanda, like, Like, don't talk to my lady. I was like, okay, this is this. Something is going on here. That is that body language. Like, he. Wes does not do that ever, ever, ever, ever. Look, I had to burp. I was so, so stressed.

[Ronnie]

So Amanda's like. I'm not even chiming into the conversation, Kyle. Lindsay's saying, it's not her. It's me. Geez. She hasn't even said anything to me, which isn't true. And Kyle's like, all right, guys, you know what? Then stop making mountains out of oils. Like, this is ridiculous. Okay?

[Lindsay]

And then Wesley goes talk to Lindsay. Don't look at Amanda. You're fine. And I'm like, what is going on with Wes? This. This is. If this was. If they were not already banging at this point, because I used to not really think anything was happening, but now I'm starting to feel like it at this point, maybe something was happening, but if they weren't, then the emotional affair has definitely started at this point.

[Ronnie]

So Lindsay is like, oh, my God. I'm just saying. And he's like, yeah, well, you know, she says, I'm just saying, in a partnership. And he goes, well, we don't have one, if you have caught the drift. We don't have a partnership. And then Amanda's like, okay, this is not a table conversation. Okay, now it's not. Now you were fine with. You've been fine with it the rest of the summer. And he's like, no. In a partner. Now that it's turning to her, right? So he's like, not. In a partnership. We pull weight. Amanda pulls no weight. And I'm losing my mind. I'll smack tables all the I want. You have no idea. You don't know what I deal with. And Carl stands up.

[Lindsay]

He's like, oh, chill out. Chill the out. Chill the out. Walk around like. He's like, no, you, man. So Kyle gets up, and then. And then. And then Kyle gets up, and then Wes gets up, and then Carl gets up. Go. Oh, chill the wall. Chill the out. Okay. Like, don't scream in front of. In front of, like, all these people. Don't do it. It's not right. Yeah, you. You. Why Don't. Stop, stop, stop. She's wearing a thong. Don't do it in front of her thong.

[Ronnie]

So he leaves the house. Kyle, like, storms out of the house, and Carl just keeps falling him. He's like, stop. And he goes, oh, yeah. Yeah, you, Carl. He's like, me.

[Lindsay]

Oh, yeah, me. Then you, you, you.

[Ronnie]

Like Carl. Carl started losing his. I started laughing so hard because this is so Carl. And they showed the clip of it earlier this season when Kyle and Carl were both coming at Luke at the batting cages. And Carl's like, oh, yeah, hold me back. Hold me back. Yeah, I'm going to get him, boys.

[Lindsay]

Hold me back, Carl. Carl only gets, like, really big in a fight when someone's holding him back. Then he knows he's being held back. And then so he's like, oh, oh, you're going to throw something. Oh, come on. Come on. And Kyle, like, throws a lover boy at the door or something like that. It's so funny because they really were making it seem like this fight was going to be about the investing in softbar. So I was just like, waiting for that to, like, come to a head. But actually it turns out it was Kyle losing his mind and them trying to calm him down and that's all it was.

[Ronnie]

Does and then Carl losing his mind because he sees his chance to have a fit now that he's been trying to have all summer that he hasn't been able to have. So he's just gonna have it now.

[Lindsay]

Oh, Lord. I guess we'll see what happens next week.

[Carl]

Wow.

[Lindsay]

Exciting times.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. Go grab tickets for the cabaret in New York on June 5th at 9:30pm and we'll talk to you next time.

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