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Casey
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Croppens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay, it's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.
Brandi
So now it's 9:30, everyone's back at the house and they're Jasmine saying, oh my God, I miss all the drama, whatever, you know. And Jesse is saying, you know, it's hard. It's hard not to be mean. I'm just surrounded by mean energy all the time. And then Lacy and Jesse are like putting stuff away in their closet and it's. She's never heard of an accordion closet, I believe. And so that's a new thing that she learns about.
Casey
She's like, what even is that? That's stupid. And it's like, wow, this, this one, this one. So Jesse's like, okay. You know, he's trying to play nice. And she's like, you need to say sorry for that entrance, cuz. You're like whiny, like, ug, you're giving me the ick. He's like, okay, let's get you settled in. He's talking to her like a little kid. He's like, okay, get out of your fancy dinner dress. She's like, don't touch me, I still have the ick.
Brandi
And meanwhile, Janet's in a room with Michelle and Britney and Some other women. And Janet is like, she's in this now. She's in this like bar thing, this massage chair. And she's like oh my God. She said six girls were ganging up on her all at once. Nobody was ganging up on her. Yeah, she said a year ago I said to her I knew that you auditioned for the Housewives. Get off that.
Casey
No, she's like I can't get off this chair. Squeezing my feet. This is what I mean. Who, what does she even care what I think? I'm like a fan of hers, you know. And Michelle's like, if anybody was ganging up on somebody, it was her ganging up on me. The way that she game alone at me. That is a gang up. Amen. And the only thing, you know I said the only thing I don't like is that you sent my friend a legal letter. And Lala's like, well has she apologized to you for that?
Brandi
No, never. And then Janet is now like the chair is like tilting her up like doing like, like an overhead leg extension or something like that. Like oh no. Oh my God. I'm doing an extend. Oh no, it's stretching me out. Oh my God. Oh my God. I can't breathe. Oh my God. Ok. Brain is hilarious.
Casey
So Zach and Luke are chatting outside and Luke's like oh man, why does she have to go so dark, bro? Oh shut up Luke.
Brandi
I'm just like concerned because like Kristen seemed like she was in a very negative head space because like I know Kristen's just like going through so many things. So like what happened today? Bengo?
Casey
He's like, well you know, it's being parents of a three months old and we're first time parents and you know, sometimes she just gets to the point where she takes things out on people that she loves. Yeah, you and me. Like you and me both. And he starts crying and Luke's like yeah, that's us. And I just want to feel respected and loved and I don't get that.
Brandi
And Luke is like the constant criticism is hurtful. Well, you're engaged to Kristen Doty and you chose this path and it sticks with me and it makes me question, am I a good dad? Am I failing Kristen? Am I even a good person? The answer is no. Yes. No.
Casey
I was going to say I'm questioning those things too and I'm not even you.
Brandi
So he's like, I just want things acknowledged that she doesn't mean them. Like she just, just tell me like I snapped and lost my mind. But regardless I shouldn't have said those things that. I'm sorry. And I love you and I want to live with you the rest of my life and I love our daughter together. Just whatever, you know, in our first night out. Dude, it was like our first night out, first time ever, both leaving Kaya. We got into a fight. It's like.
Casey
Yeah, yeah, I know that. So sorry. Go ahead, Ben.
Brandi
You got into a fight because she asks you to, like, come home and not pass out on the sofa and you did, and she was mad at you. You under fight because you did things that she requested you not to do.
Casey
She's getting mad because what's more important to you is going out and getting shitfaced when you have stuff to do and then acting like she's a from hell when she asks for some help. I saw this video the other day, this TikTok of this guy. It's this guy going straight guys I see. And he's just. Is. All the guy does is roll his eyes. It's like a reaction video. And he's showing all these videos of women walking with like a stroller, two babies, a bag, a tent, a stork on her head, trying to find some place at the beach. And then the husband's just walking behind her carrying nothing, you know, looking around or then you see like a woman putting five kids in the car, you know, and then, you know, typing out their taxes and then, you know, playing a bugle and then, you know, like changing the oil on the car. And the man's just sitting in the front seat, like getting Eric condition. That's what the guys on this show remind me of. And then they're like, what?
Brandi
What?
Casey
Why can't I just get some respect? What are you doing?
Brandi
Yeah, exactly. How are you helping in this situation? What are you really contributing?
Casey
Yeah, that gives a monologue and he's like, you know, and like, you guys, like, I don't know why I'm crying. You should be crying. But like, you know, like, God knows she's. She's trying, you know, but she needs you to support her and you are everything she needs at the moment when she needs it. But you're such a good person and you're so good to Kristen and like the. Compared to Kaya, and that's all that matters. Oh my God, am I running spray town down my face?
Brandi
It's just been a long time since I felt the appreciation of what you just said about me. And that's not something I hear. There are like times I feel like I'm fighting for us and she's fighting against me. And that's it. That's all there is to it. Because never thought there was that potential that I'd be in a really dark place when I have a newborn baby. With Kristen, like, that's not something I've ever considered. But, like, with Kristen, it's like. Okay, okay. The point, Zach. I mean, Luke, you just gotta get over it. I'm sorry. Help your wife out. Help your wife. Okay, yeah.
Casey
Make her life easier. Maybe if we saw Luke, like, carrying around the baby, carrying in the stuff, doing this, doing everything, and then Kristen just constantly berating him. But that's not what we're seeing. We're seeing. All the complaints we're seeing of Luke is, I can't go fishing when I want to. I can't go get faced when I want to. She doesn't feel good. Well, how am I supposed to know what it's like in her body? I guess I'll just stay here and get faced with everybody else. Else, you know, that's all we're seeing from you, Luke. So if we're only seeing a fraction of what she's seeing, so God help her.
Brandi
Yeah. So then we see people doing various things. Tom texts Kiana, like, love you so much. Have a safe light. You know, she's like. Has her sunglasses on on the plane.
Casey
Like, oh, my God.
Brandi
Just got a text from Tom. Oh, my God, I'm a model. And then Jesse's checking to see if Kristen's okay. And then Britney is FaceTiming Brandon. And then, like, a whole bunch of people are in the. Are in the kitchen hanging out. So Jason is like, hey, are you guys talking over there? He's like, no, we are just recapping. And Jason's like, yeah, well, you were kind of, like, out of town for no reason tonight. Like, I don't know where it's sort of escalated to the whole thing, bro. He's like, I wasn't at a 10. Oh, yeah? Oh, really? We're going to 11. And so Zach's like, wait, wait, wait. Apologize right now. Apologize. You guys, apologize.
Casey
Okay, well, if you want an apology, then you don't meet somebody at the door with like, hey, crazy guy. That's not how you greet. Oh, are you learning this from. Are you learning this from Lacy? This is not how you say. It's not how you do it. This is how you need to do it. And Jason's like, well, I figured by then you'd calm down because, like, you know, it Was like, whoa. It was like, up here. Well, I'm always calm, and it wasn't there. Okay, it will. It escalated. And so Jason's like, yeah, Jesse was acting like a way normal human beings just don't act in restaurants, even places called Draft. Okay.
Brandi
Yeah.
Casey
And like, if he hadn't gotten so involved, then it could have. They could have had a conversation. But he made it much worse, which agreed. So Lacey's like, but real talk. Did you apologize to Jason for yelling? Because I can't with the yelling because why? I like Lacy. I like her. She's like, yeah, you were wrong in that one. Apologize.
Brandi
And she stays on him. She really stays on him. Like, she really does wear the pants in this relationship. And she's like, apologize. Apologize. He's like, okay, fine, I'll apologize. I'll apologize for yelling at. For yelling when she was walking out the restaurant. She's like, no, you can't yell at people. Because it really triggers me. He's like, I understand that. So anyway, now Lacey's talking to Zach and Brittany and Janet on the side, and Lacey's saying, you know, it triggers me when he yells because I don't like the yelling. It's triggering me. And Janet's like, well, just something. Shut the up. She's like, no, I mean, like, you guys, like, I get really triggered. So then Britney inserts herself, and she's like, well, I think at some point, you and Michelle should have a conversation about this, by the way. You guys should have a conversation. And Michelle's like, about what? I am literally right here. I'm like, I didn't know you were right there.
Casey
I should have known when the micro. When the microwave started fritzing out. Okay, so, you know, we should clear
Brandi
the air with that.
Casey
Okay. You know, this whole, like, cease and
Brandi
desist stuff, you know?
Casey
Yeah.
Brandi
You guys don't really talk about it. You know, Brittany, this is. This is not like a. Hey, you guys had a misunderstanding. This is like X. This is a marriage situation with stepmother ex. You don't be like, oh, you guys should talk about that right now. It's like, if they're not ready to talk, this is not smart.
Casey
Well, I was the one that got it, by the way. The season desist. So why did my friends not get it? But I got it. And she's like, well, I knew what you guys were doing. Well, I was not doing anything, but you threatened to zoom me,
Brandi
Michelle. I spent money to try and get you to stop talking about me. Well, I wasn't talking about You. You talk about me. Your boyfriend talks about me. She's like, michelle, Lacey, Lacey. It's like, michelle, you don't have to be mean to me. I'm getting triggered by you being mean to me. And your first text to Jesse about me was, do you really want to, like, fight and not, like, whatever, Right? I'm actually, like, too triggered to even remember.
Casey
She's saying, like, I mean, your first text, okay, I mean, are we gonna fight right now? Michelle's like, I do not want to bite. I don't care. I do not care. Like, Michelle's a little too heated for this situation. And Lacey's just staying calm. She's like, okay, well, your first text to Jesse about me. She goes, I don't care. I do not care. She has. When I was hanging out with your child was. She's ugly. She'll never be my daughter's stepmom. She has too much plastic surgery. Jesse, can I have your phone so we can show her this text? And she's. Yes. Bl. Eggs to bullet up. So Jesse's saying, when they first started dating, Michelle hadn't filed for divorce yet, and she. He would go to Lacy for advice, and he was. He would share as much as he could with her. Oh, I'm sure. And Lacy's like, yeah, I think it's ridiculous to make fun of another woman's appearance.
Brandi
So we see Michelle's text, and they're like, look at all the crap you've said about me. Yet you've already introduced her to a fake OC Girl. And also things like, like, I don't approve of a girl who looks like that to be Isabella's step mom, and I hope you don't end up with somebody like that for Isabella's sake.
Casey
I'm like, michelle, you were mean to me. She was you. You were mean to me. You were mean to me. Just. No, I wasn't. And you pushed Jesse through a window.
Brandi
What?
Casey
Michelle's like, I love this because Michelle was just escalating, escalating. She's like, okay, so what about you pushing Jesse through a window? She's like, are you joking right now? I. Now I'm bugging biz pushed you through a window, Jesse. And Jesse's like, oh, we're going there. Yeah. Yeah, she did. She pushed me through a window. And Tom's like, whoa, wow. You really are strong, Michelle. I find that so attractive in a person. Michelle's like, really? You are telling his story about when we were married.
Brandi
So Michelle's version is. I Did not push Jesse out of a window. Last year. He was drunk and was so upset that I had asked for a divorce and he was in my way. So I softly got him out of the way and he took some steps back and drunkenly hit the window and then said, oh my, my God, you just pushed me through a window. Then his version is, she was doing a huge commercial deal that I had been helping her on, and she said, that's my deal. We're not splitting it. She jumped over the bed and I was folding laundry and she pushed me back and my arm went through the window in my bedroom.
Casey
Okay, so all the stories cobbled together, she didn't push you through a window. That's what you're saying? Your arm went through a window. Go. If you look out the window, do you consider that jumping out a window? No, she did not push you out the window. Stop it. So Lala's like, why are we talking about this right now? And Lacey's like, yeah, this is the unfair thing that keeps happening. I'm screamed at, I'm called names. And Lala's like, because you're throwing crazy out there. And Jasmine's like, oh my God, everyone's so insane. Okay, Like, I don't know if it's just Michelle feeling a type of way because, you know, she's seeing Jesse happy, but this is nuts. And Lacey's like, michelle, I apologize that I brought up the window thing.
Brandi
You don't know what happened. You weren't there. You did not see the window. And Jesse's like, why are we even arguing? As if he has not been pitting these women against each other. Although in this case it was Britney. And Brittany's like, yeah, you guys have already worked past a lot of the stuff, so we're just rehashing a lot of bad stuff, so stop doing that.
Casey
And Jesse started it. Britney. This is so Britney. I'm glad Jesse called it out because this is so Britney to be. Y' all need to talk. God, you need to talk about your divorce stuff and the cease and desist. Why are we rehashing old stuff?
Brandi
Yeah, cuz Jesse's like, britney was the one who said, let's talk about the past and Britney will start the fire and then just slide into the shadows. And they just show her. She's just on her phone texting, ignoring this. This fight that she is allegedly invested in. And so he's like, I don't know if Britney is sneaky or she's just been trained by Jacks to be that way, friends with Jax, so.
Casey
What's that?
Brandi
I said, you're the one that's friends with Jax. Jesse, he's, like, trying to throw the Jack stuff around as if he's not friends with Jax.
Casey
And Lacey's like, well, the amount of text she sent to Jesse making fun of my appearance and saying I'll never be Isabella's stepmom because I have plastic surgery and I'm ugly, of course I'm triggered. And he's like, nothing productive's coming out of this, okay? And Jasmine goes, just sign the divorce papers. Move the on.
Brandi
So Michelle's like, divorce me. Please divorce me. And Jessica's, oh, do it for me. I'm before. Do it for me. And Jason goes, what? She's performative because, like, Jesse's doing a whole thing. He's doing, like, a whole performance. Like, his arms are in the air, like, oh, whoa. I'm Michelle. I'm performative. And Jason's like, you realize you're the one that's being performative right now, right? Okay.
Casey
Yeah. So Janet, Lala, Michelle, and Britney go to the side. And Janet's like, oh, my God, they fucking started that. I mean, I hate to be like, kindergarten, but, like, she went low first. And I hate that you reacted to that. I wish you didn't, but you took the bait. Michelle, she's like, yes, I did. And Michelle's like, you know, and then him, like, you're playing his part. You're. You're playing this part. And lala says, well, he's projecting onto you because he has no money and he's got a girl that barely even likes him a little, and, like, she tolerates his presence. Okay? But if he needs to protect, project onto you because he's living a pretty miserable life, then just let him. Who cares?
Brandi
It's pretty good advice. So then it's a new day. It's a new day. This is a tense first day. But now we're in a new day, and they're gonna. Everyone's gonna go to the San Diego Zoo to go on, like, a safari thing and feed an animals, and it's gonna be great and wonderful. And in fact, some of them are already feeding animals because there's a petting zoo attached to this house. So they're looking at that, and they're. Zach and Lala are talking about going, taking a shower and stuff. And Jasmine's telling Lacy to not take from anybody. Like, don't let these girls bully you to make you feel like anything. Okay?
Casey
Hey, guys, are you worried that Tom's not gonna do anything this episode? Don't worry. Here he is. Tom's like, whoa, Lala, I gotta tell you something. Last night, I had this, like. Like, fleshly, intense, carnal sex dream, and you were involved in it.
Brandi
Michelle's like, what? It's like, yeah, I swear, I'm not trying to be lewd or like, wait, so you were super dirty to me. Yeah. And I'm gonna take it to the grave. Except that I just announced it right now and I erased it from my memory. Especially because I'm in a relationship. Oh, my God, this is so awkward.
Casey
Oh, how do I even look you in the eye? We were so freaky. And she's like, yeah, I just don't see him, like, slapping ass or, like, choking out. I just don't. I seem kind of being like. Like, yeah, this was fun. Like, maybe, like, with his, like, glasses all steamed up. His socks are probably still on, you know?
Brandi
This will be a question on the reunion. Schwartz, you still having sex dreams about Laura? Tell us about the dreams.
Casey
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Brandi
So then. Then Michelle's like, did you wake up with a boner? And then Tom's like, what? That you can't ask me that. Okay, fire this man. Get him off the show.
Casey
Seriously. So stupid. God, what a waste. So now Jason's talking about how he has to go to a work dinner, so he's gonna leave early. And then Janet's really excited for giraffes. They're really good at skeeball. So Luke and Kristen have a chat on a swing. And Luke's like, wow, what a beautiful swing. She goes, yeah, feels like a rocking chair, guys. It's a swing. So he's like, don't you. Oh, this is where he's wearing his shirt. He's like, oh, don't you love my shirt that I'm wearing of our faces, Isn't it so reminiscent? And so she's talking about how she's feeling bloated, and she's like, yeah, I know you don't want to hear about it, but, you know, like, everybody's like, pregnancy, like, you know, it's just so gnarly, you know? And that's why I get anxiety about leaving the house. I'm, like, in my comfort zone there, you know? Like, I just want to be with her and go to bed.
Brandi
Lucas says, yeah, I don't. I don't know what you're going through. And I'm just trying to be as empathetic and as. And patient as possible. Can you, like, not say patient? Because it makes it seem like there's, like a ticking clock before you lose your mind and you're gonna leave her or, like, it's like, just. I just don't think patient is, like, A good word to use with this situation here. And so he says, it just does wear on me. And I just feel like the times where I start getting short is when, like, I feel like I'm being treated a way that I don't deserve. Like, I'm not necessarily doing it to you, but if it just builds up and just, like, I don't know, I get defensive and, like, I'm just keeping it short. She's like, yeah, yeah. I think that, like, when you do reverse the defensive in whatever amount, I think that's, like, what the problem is. Yeah. Yeah. And so now he's, like, going on again about how, like, I just.
Casey
He's like, yeah, and when you're sharp, I don't even know what I'm doing wrong, but I hear you being sharp, and, you know, like, I don't mean to be this way. I just need you to be like, I don't mean to be this way towards you, you know, because even if you said that, that would take the weight off my chest.
Brandi
Yeah. So she says, well, I just get so overwhelmed. So then I'm not like, you know, I don't know. But I agree with you. It's not fair. I mean, look, a guy has a. Has a right to say, hey, I'm trying to be there for you as much as possible. And I feel like sometimes you're being a little mean to me. That's fine. But, like, not the what about me. What about me? It's like, okay, enough. So Kristen talks about how she's had. She had anxiety even before she had her baby, and sometimes she feels rage, and sometimes she feels sadness, and things come out crazy, and she's. You know, she's. A lot of it's directed at Luke, and she basically doesn't want to mess it up. And she feels really bad about it.
Casey
Yeah. She's like, I don't want to take it out on you. So they kind of make up, and now they go to the San Diego Safari Park. And so they get there, and Danny's like, oh, baby, what are we doing with the baby? He's coming with us. Are you serious? It's like, if you have a problem with something, you also need to have a solution with me for me. Danny, take her to the shelter. There's a solution.
Brandi
Yeah. I think Danny forgets that this baby is, like, not on a bottle, so it has to be with Nia to eat. So they get on the. What'd you say?
Casey
Yeah, so they get on. I was disagreeing with you. So they get on the. They're getting on this bus thing and the safari cart or whatever it is, and he is like, babe, the baby. Why are you not helping the baby? He's like, oh, my goodness, is Lena not coming? Don't we have a nanny for this? Okay, so. So why can't. What's happening with her? It's like, but the baby needs to come up here. It means you're in charge. But what with her? Yeah, she needs help. She's got a backpack, she's got a carrier, and it's coming up steps with a baby carriage thing. He's like, she doesn't. You know what? You didn't tell her anything. You didn't tell her anything. You need to be in charge, Daniel. Oh, God. It's like we're just switching from shitty person, shitty man for. To shitty man. Now it's now. Now it's our turn for Danny.
Brandi
I just feel like Danny just like helped bring the thing up and into the thing. Like, it's just. It's just not a hard ask. It really isn't. And Nia tells us Daniel is like, super ready to enjoy Safari park, and I want to join him, but I have the baby and I feel like I'm juggling so much and taking care of all the little details, and I just want him to be there with me. It sounds to me like they hired this babysitter, but they didn't actually get on the same page of, like, what they wanted to use this babysitter for. It sounds like in his mind, it was like the baby's gonna be with the babysitter all weekend and they'll check in once in a while. And in her mind, it's like, I'll have the babysitter and when I'm not feeding the baby, I will hand the baby off to her and then we can do some stuff, but, like, the baby will be with us the entire time.
Casey
Yeah. So he's like, do you need her with us? She goes, yeah, she's hungry. I need to nurse her. Ten minutes ago, Daniel and Kristen's like, oh, my God. I want to be in a better place. After our conversation with Luke, I want to be softer so maybe I can, you know, I mean, I'm. I'm willing to even offer myself as tribute and sit on the same fan as Janet.
Brandi
So there they get in separate trucks to go through this. This safari, and it's like, really fun. And, you know, the sun is beaming in because they're sort of open air trucks and Nia is trying to feed the baby, and Danny's like, so what are we doing with this baby right now? Well, she's staying with us the whole next 90 minutes. He's like, what? He's, like, so angry. He's, like, so angry that his child is with him. And by the way, this very family friendly activity.
Casey
Yeah, I just. Yeah, exactly. He's got a baby at a safari park.
Brandi
That's.
Casey
That's where the children are supposed to be, Danny. So they're talking about elephants or being shown elephants. And Kristen's like, I have so much sympathy for them. And then Nia's like, you know, it's really hot for a baby. She should be in the shade. I'm just worried about how hot. Daniel, why are you laughing? He's like, what? Why are you laughing? He's like, there's just a lot going on. And now he stands up, like, to, like, look out the thing. He's so frustrated. And she's like, danny, I'm overwhelmed. Our baby's hot. I'm hot. And there's nowhere to cool her off. So it's a lot that. Can you be attuned to me? Like, look inside that green bag. Maybe there's something we can fan her with, you know, because you're not attuned to me if you're making those faces, Daniel.
Brandi
So then he's not helping at all. At one point, we do see him hold the baby, like, for, like, one second. But, like, she then has to go and pull out this hat, you know, to fan the baby with. And the baby's miserable. We see.
Casey
Isn't that like the safari person's hat that they hand her to family?
Brandi
Maybe it was, but it was like. The point was that Danny was like, you figure it out. Out. You decided to bring the baby on here, so now it's your responsibility because I'm on vacation and I didn't sign up to have my baby to be on. On this safari thing. So if. If there's an issue with the baby, that's on you. Because I said, leave the baby with the babysitter. That's exactly what his face is saying right now.
Casey
Yeah. So now they're going zip lining. And Zach and Lacey are like, that. We're not doing that. So they go get a drink.
Brandi
Yeah, exactly. Even if Channing Tatum said, like, I'll make out with you if you zipline, I, like, would not even do it. So they all go down and they all get like. They get, like, harness in the crotch activity happening which is.
Casey
I love that. The tour guide's like, okay, guys, be sure not to scream because it scares the animals. And every single one of them's like, I know.
Brandi
Every single one of them.
Casey
I wonder if that's ever worked. Telling people not to scream on a zip line.
Brandi
No.
Casey
So Michelle's like, lala's saying, okay, you should go talk to. You should go talk to Lacy. Okay? And she's like, okay, just tell me how to start it. She goes, you're gonna be friendly, but you're gonna have to be stern when you say, like, what happened last night? Well, never happened again.
Brandi
Yeah. So Michelle goes up with Lacy. Can we speak, please? This is obviously very awkward. I'd like to go first. I don't want what happened yesterday to ever happen again. And I've tried my hardest with Jesse to move forward and try to co parent. Lace is like, okay, so what happened yesterday? Oh, you mean when you guys all went in another room and made fun of me behind my back? Yeah. I would love it if you didn't do that anymore. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, totally.
Casey
No, she's really like, well, first and foremost, I apologize and I feel horrible and I want to have mutual respect. And I know it's probably hard because of him. Okay. But I don't want to want to be like, against you. And I've never wanted to be against you. And Michelle's like, it's not about you, though. I've had discussions with Jesse as a father. For example, Jesse and I, as barons, agreed not to introduce people. But you introduced a guy last season. Do you not forget you had that weirdo big eyed boyfriend that you had around your daughter all the time. So that's kind of weird.
Brandi
Yeah. She's like, but you texted Jesse and this is on him for showing me, and he shouldn't show me your private information. And we can agree on that. And he showed me your text where you were like, I don't want that thing around Isabella. You will never be that will never be her. Your stepmom. Look at her face. Do you remember saying that? Well, first of all, you have to imagine me as a mother, having just watched the latest season of House of the Dragons. I'm like, oh, my God, Aegon Targaryen is going to steal my daughter and destroy her. So you have to understand how scary it was for me.
Casey
She's like, I do. That's why I called you Michelle. Like, I understand how weird that could be. That's why I tried to call you. And she's like, there's a gar outside. There is a woman in the gar. And the agreement was, we are not introducing women, and it's not aid for you. I was angry at Jezzy because he makes all of these rules, and he's constantly trying to control me. And Lacy's like, I'm just literally seeking out a mutual agreement of doing better. I'm not trying to fight because Michelle's, like, getting amped. And Michelle's like, well, I'm trying to do the same thing. And what I ask from you is, do what you say. Like, you say you want to be good. So don't. Don't trigger me. Don't trigger me. Oh, my God. Everybody is triggered. Like, every single 90 of these people are triggered today.
Brandi
So Michelle says, I left that marriage for a reason, and I have worked on myself and tried to forgive and move forward because I know you're frustrated, and I understand that, and I would never intentionally cross your boundaries. But this is a year compiled of me hearing from time after time, and that text, and I just. I never texted anyone about your appearance. I never would do that to you, Michelle. But I don't text people about your appearance. I don't think you understand. He attacked me all the time. You have no idea. You only get one side of the story.
Casey
Wow. So Michelle's just not gonna apologize. She's not gonna give her an inch. She's not gonna be like, I'm so sorry I called you an ugly. He then, like, with, you know, rubber face. Yeah, sorry. Like, how hard is that, Michelle, to just say, I'm sorry I called you ugly? I was mad at Jesse. Why is that so hard? She can't even. She's just like, nope, nope. Jesse dated you, and that wasn't cool, period. So you need to understand that Lacy
Brandi
actually has a pretty, I think, not enlightened. Maybe the word is enlightened, but she has a pretty good response, which is like. Like, well, I'm not a. I'm not a therapist. I'm not a doctor, but I go to a lot of therapists, and I just sort of feel like Michelle probably has her own trauma. And at this point, my goal is to get along with her, so I have to focus on my goal, and. And I'd rather focus on getting along with her than being right in this conversation. So, whatever. I'm just gonna move forward.
Casey
So Michelle's like, look, I've kept a lot private, and I don't talk about things that happen in my marriage. And I'm sure You've heard some stories, and I think talking about my past and my marriage when you're not in it is inappropriate. And I've worked on forgetting it and moving past it. And she's. And so Lacey's like, okay, you're right. I'm sorry. And I don't want to go there with especially you, and I apologize, you know, so let's just do better. And she's like, we will move forward. She's like, okay, I'm glad we could move forward. I really am sorry. Again, I felt like an asshole. And Michelle's like, well, I felt all over yelling, because I don't really yell. It takes a lot for me to grind. Even this. She's like, okay, I'm sorry. You made me yell like, Michelle, geez, just tell the girl you're sorry you called her ugly. My God.
Brandi
Goes. Michelle goes. I'm actually a very happy person. Yes. Three years in, I I. That's what I think about. I'm like, oh, there's that very happy Michelle Lolly. Just. Just sunshine and rainbows all the time. Michelle Lolly.
Casey
So I even rhymed things like, don't say gay. Actually, that didn't remind. That didn't. That did not rhyme. Never mind. But it was fun for me. So they walk back and join the
Brandi
rest of the group.
Casey
And so Kristen's like, well, but lala, when I think of your boobs, I think of the heart tattoo.
Brandi
Isn't that. She's like, no, remember. Remember when you squirted milk all across the dining room table when Ocean was a little baby? Remember that? I walked in and you were like, going everywhere. And I'm sitting here. I'm just, like, squeezing my boob. I'm like, come on. Come on, you. Come on. Get the milk out. Get the milk out.
Casey
Come on. You were like, I'm leaking. I'm leaking. And it just shot out. And I was like, whoa. That was my first real moment of what breastfeeding is like. And then I'm sitting here, like, squeezing, like, trying, like, at the well, like, oh, come on. Something.
Brandi
So they're all just like. Lala asks if everything is good with Michelle and Lacey, and it's. It's good. And then Lacey's like, by the way, Jesse, you should apologize for last night, too. He's like, God damn it, I can't get out of this. He's like, I'll have my moment. And it's not right now. She's like, no, you should do it. You should do it. He's Like, I will do it, but whatever. So then Nia, they're. They're all lining up for a photo, and Nia goes, guys, I have a quick announcement. We have to head back right now, but we have a surprise. The girls and I have been planning a pageant. It's gonna be a male pageant.
Casey
Oh, God. We have costumes. Oh, my God. So she tells us her pageant idea because she's a pageant girl, guys. So they're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna dress you like girls. Guys. Gonna be so hilarious. And Kristen's like, yeah, Luke, you're gonna be like Ariel, the Little mermaid, but it's a bride. He's like, wow, I'm my own hall pass. I guess I'll be masturbating tonight. Is that what you're saying? Wow. It's all passes, Ariel.
Brandi
I forgot about that.
Casey
I forgot about that, too.
Brandi
So Bernie's like, yeah, that's why we were at the costume store, guys. I know all of you guys were wondering, why were they at the costume store? What were they doing? Buy dishes. Guess what? We're buying costumes. It all makes sense now.
Casey
So now they head back to the house, and Zach's like, talking about four loco.
Brandi
It's like.
Casey
Let's just say it's a very, very special drink that has the word loco in it for a reason.
Brandi
So now everyone's the guys. The women are getting the guys into drag. And then Danny is like, nia, get me ready. Get me ready. And he was like, I'm going to just chill. I just. I need to nurse her to sleep. There's just, like, so much going on. Yeah, well, listen, if this was a magic mic pageant right now, oh, it'd be game over in two seconds.
Casey
Don't flatter yourself, buddy. Yeah, it's like we were saying when we were watching the. The McBees trailer and they go to a strip club. We're like, yeah, that's not Magic Mike. That's just Mike. That's just Mike. Don't flatter yourself. So he's like, yeah, get me ready. Get me ready. So meanwhile, Zach is like. Like, this is my first drag experience ever. And I'm so excited. Like, the breastplate alone, I can't. So they. The boys are all putting on their boobies and cracking up. And so then, of course, Tom's like, wow, I kind of like this dress. Michelle, she's like, that's.
Brandi
That is La La's so. And then Luke is like, this is the weirdest thing I've ever done, babe. Because Kristen's putting Luke in this, like, white, like, in Ariel's wedding dress, but he just sort of looks like a mummy with a red wig on. Ultimately, he looks very, very strange. And then Tom saying how he. He love. I love getting into drag, but everyone told me I'm the ugliest woman, like, unanimously. And then we see flashback to him on In New Orleans on Vanderpump Rules. Not. Not making a beautiful woman in drag.
Casey
Then, dude, they really need to stop flashing back to Vanderpump Rules because it just reminds you of what was, you know, that. We come back to Danny and Nia. He's like, nia, they've been getting ready for 20 minutes. We're here to win. What are you doing? She's like, I know. I just need to put the baby down. Well, you're here to win. I'm here to win, so let's do. I'm doing my best. Daniel, would you even know what you're doing here? Nia, do you even know? I feel like you're being really critical, and it's hard for me to function, Daniel. No, it's not. Okay, shirt off. Let's go. You're in charge, so be in charge. And he's getting really mean, and he's wearing this stupid blonde wig on his head.
Brandi
Yeah.
Casey
Which, well, at first makes it even worse. It's like, oh, God.
Brandi
I thought, was he doing some weird character? Like, yeah, we're gonna win. We're gonna win. Like, he was getting into character as, like, some sort of athlete. But then I started to feel like, no, he's not, because she's. She. If he is in character, and I'm not gonna give him that, but if he is in character, she's not feeling that he's in character. And she's like, could you please stop doing this? And he keeps on doing it, and so he's being a huge dick. And she's like, okay, do you want to do pants? Pants are. Shirt off, please. And he's like, this is your project you just shot. I need you to stop being critical of me. It's really hard to function as you should. It's your competition, and I don't lose.
Casey
So he's telling us, you know, Nia's got a lot going on, but I'm pretty frustrated. You know, I feel like I'm not getting the attention that everyone else is getting. You know, I feel like not enough thought was going into it. And the only reason. Reason we flew lean out here was to watch the baby so I could have fun. And now here I am, not even going to do good in a contest. So see, he's not kidding. He's like, no, this is a competition. She's paying attention to the baby instead of me. And everybody else is getting ready, and I don't get to get ready. There was one point where they showed. I think it's before all of this happened. But they were getting up in the morning and Danny's working out. And it was just so Danny. It's like, him, him. I'm like an elliptical or something, or a run, whatever, some machine. And just staring at himself in the mirror, like in the eyes, like, sucking in his cheeks. Just like, yeah, focus. Just, like, solely on his, like, alleged hotness.
Brandi
It's just. Ah, yeah, yeah. So Sonia's like, I'm trying to get you ready. Take your clothes off. He's like, what is this? It's a sparkly dress.
Casey
Dress.
Brandi
And he goes, it's not even form fitting, sir. This is not a real pageant, okay? This is gonna be 10 minutes in a goofy dress, okay? And she goes, do you want a full face of makeup? Well, why are you asking me for? Because you're the one who's complaining that you're not getting attention. So she's trying to give you attention right now.
Casey
We're partners, Daniel. It's like, there's no partners in this. It's win or lose. You're killing me, Daniel. Cheese. Okay, I'm gonna cover up your facial hair. Stop, dude, what are you doing to me? Dude, I look like a clown. You don't have to rub so hard
Brandi
because she's put that like, what is a banana? Banana. Something that, like, turns up the priv face. She's giving him proof face and he does not like it whatsoever. So he's like, wiping it off. He's all angry and he is like, daniel and I have not been on the same page. Like I want to be. And especially when we kind of, like, have a little escape pretty much this whole weekend. It's like, at this point, my feelings are cutting her and I just don't know what to do.
Casey
So we see Lala has been standing there watching this whole thing. And he's a God. Just know my skin tone. Jeez. Lala's like, so, how's it going? Stop being mean to me, honey. We're here to win. Well, tell me I'm doing great and you're proud of me. No, I mean, are you ready for the wig? You know, you have to hold the front and I'll do the back. He's like, oh, what you're gonna do my hair? Says, no, this is the hairstyle. We'll get it situated, then get it done. God, this. What is wrong with him? It just gets way. It gets worse and worse and he gets meaner and meaner and she's like, you know, you're competitive. It's a lot. He's like, get it done. And she's like, I'll walk away. And he goes, give it a tram. Give it a tram. And she's like, stop raising your voice because you're Miss usa. You better make my hair like a pageant girl. And Lala's like, yeah. I have to be honest, it's making me feel very uncomfortable. It's the way that you're talking to her. Okay. It's making me very twist. Triggered. He goes, triggered. Why are you triggered?
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Brandi
So she says, because the way you're speaking to her, and it's like, not kind. I don't like it. It's not. It's supposed to be fun. And Nina's like, yeah, it's supposed to be fun. He goes, well, that's what we're doing. And Lala's like, that's not what I'm hearing. It doesn't sound like fun. It sounds aggressive and disrespectful. And I don't like it because, well, thank you, Lala. She goes, well, I'm sorry, Nia, if I'm overstepping. So I was like, I really like that Lala went in there and like, had Nia's back and also said what Nia should have been saying, which was. Was not even that what Nia should have been saying. But I think what Nia probably wanted to say but felt like she couldn't, which was like, shut the up, Danny.
Casey
Yeah, Nia's like, well, I'm having two thoughts if Lala comes in, you know, one is, this ain't your business. Like, truly, like, bye. What are you doing here? Okay, well, then don't expose us all to your shitty marriage, Nia. You know what I mean? Like, it's the same thing you're doing on TV where you're now you're trying to have podcasts to explain why your husband said such a piece of. Well, he's a piece of. If you don't want your husband to be a piece of, you shouldn't be on TV with him. And that's not to say, like, this is Nia's fault in any way, but like, you're in a situation and people are going to say things about it, you know, because this is gross, this is. This is terrible, and nobody should be treated like that. And she's like. And then the second thing is like, bye, what are you doing here? But, like, also, well, thank God someone else sees it, because I'm I'm like, I'm. I losing my mind here?
Brandi
No, we see it. Yeah. Lala. Lala says, I've heard about the dark side of Danny, and this is the first time I'm actually seeing it and hearing it, and it's extremely uncomfortable. So then Danny is like. Then Danny turns to knee and goes, don't let her talk to me like that. Like, well, then you go to.
Casey
You got to go cry to your mommy now, Danny. Isn't that funny how quickly you needed her? The second you got. You got anything from anybody else, you're like, oh, no, I need my mommy.
Brandi
Yeah, don't let. Don't let her talk to me like that. And then he is like, then you. Then you don't talk to me how you're talking to me, sir. And he's like, I will. No, you won't. Yes, I will. And he is like, well, then I'll let her talk to you how she wants to. He goes, oh, really? She's like, yeah, because she was saying exactly what I was saying, and you weren't listening to me, so maybe you'll listen to it from someone else.
Casey
And so Lala's talking to Jesse, and she's like, he was yelling at her. Did you hear that? And he's like, yeah, I heard it. I don't want to get into another thing. Oh, God, it's another male, another guy doing a great job on this show. And she's like, well, that's what makes me nervous, you know, Like, I haven't heard it before. And I think that's why I started crying. And he's like, yeah, because you'd never seen it. Were you used to it? And she's like, no, no, I hadn't seen it. And I was like, is he in character? Is he actually being a dick? But then I was around the corner and he was like, do my wig. And something about a wig. And she's like, daniel, stop. And that's when I was like, knock it off.
Brandi
Off.
Casey
You know? And then he started to laugh at me when I told him to stop.
Brandi
So Jesse says, well, I heard the way Danny was speaking to Nia, and it was definitely ordering her around. And he was definitely being aggressive, and he definitely drank. And I said, are we going the dark side? So I said, you know what? I'm going to intervene here, and I'm going to put him in his place. Just kidding. I only do that to women. Anyway. I just let him do his thing. It was fun.
Casey
Yeah. For someone who's been you know, apparently talking about how they were thrown through a window during a fight. You really don't seem to care about anybody else getting completely obliterated over here while you can sit there and listen to it. Gross. So Danny's like, oh, I'm mistriggered right now. That's what I should be in this contest, Ms. Triggered. Yeah. And Lala's like, oh, wow. What? And he goes, yeah, I'm gonna be missed Triggered. She goes, yeah. And she tells us, I've never had a man mock me when I say I'm true Triggered. Like, he has no idea why speaking to me that way would trigger me. And it's so disrespectful and misogynistic and tells me everything I need to know about this person. So Danny's like, she's triggered. She's like, okay, Daniel, knock it off. I do not with you right now.
Brandi
Whoa. What? What are you talking about? She's like, you're not going to come in and be passive aggressive, because what happens is you're passive aggressive. I'm just. I'm just aggressive, so don't do that to me. And he's like, well, you did it to me. She's well, you were being aggressive and disrespectful to your wife. So I shut it down. Oh, so you're in my marriage now. Like, this is what I hate when people who are in bad relationships do it in public in front of everyone, and then everyone has a right to say something because it's in their space. Like, oh, stay out of our relationship. Well, then stay out of my. My fun space.
Casey
Yeah, stay out of the food court. So I was like, well, knock it off. I don't need to be in your marriage to see what's wrong right in front of me. I got a brain and two eyes and ears. Jesus. You got the wrong. He said, don't talk to me like that. Oh, yeah, good luck. Don't talk to me like that. And she's like, you're talking to me like that. He goes, no, I didn't. She goes, yes, you did, Ms. Triggered. I missed triggered. You're calling me. Don't do that. Don't do that. He's like, because you came in on my business. And she's like, oh, yeah? Well, I'd hate to see how you talk to her behind closed doors. This is how you do it. And it just ends with him dumbfounded in that stupid wig with his little butt pinched face. Oh, good for her.
Brandi
He was really just. He couldn't believe it. He couldn't. Honestly, I don't think he could believe that a woman would speak to him that way. You know, he's had, you know, he's had Janet, you know, be not like an opponent. But Janet never got into his face in that same way like Lala does it in a way like you are not with me. There's just a different way when someone has that energy of like, you're not going to with me and you better shut up up. There's a different energy behind that versus someone who's like, I think that what you're doing is not right. And he was gobsmacked and it was great and it was deserving. And I think Lala did the exact right thing. I thought she was wonderful in this moment.
Casey
Yeah, me too. Good for her. Yeah. And last year, you know, when he was doing the stuff with Janet, he was still. He still had his mask on, you know, he was very much like what I did something offensive. I don't even remember it. I'm so sorry. Let me have five apology scenes to talk about how sorry I am about. You know, he didn't really drop that mask like he is right now. I mean right now. Jesus Christ.
Brandi
Yeah.
Casey
What a.
Brandi
It's all come out.
Casey
I mean really, the. The only, the only decent ones right now out of the men are Zach and Jason. Everyone else like are total garbage. Total trash. Fires today.
Brandi
Yeah, they really are.
Casey
Yikes.
Brandi
Well, okay. Well, it was. I actually really enjoyed the episode. And we'll see how this all resolves next week on the Valley. And until then, thanks for listening.
Casey
Personally traumatized, but I'm glad.
Brandi
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Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode: #3366 – The Valley S3E07 Part Two: Drag Him!
Date: May 14, 2026
In this lively episode, Ben and Ronnie (along with some guest commentary and impersonations) deliver their signature blend of sharp wit, Bravo fandom, and social commentary as they dissect Part Two of “The Valley” Season 3 Episode 07. The hosts unpack a drama-filled group trip, center relationship confrontations, discuss classic Bravo parenting fuel, and revel in a chaotic drag pageant. Throughout the recap, the hosts praise, roast, and eviscerate the cast—especially the men—leaving no emotional outburst or passive-aggressive jab unchecked.
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[49:10–50:24]
| Segment | Timestamps | |--------------------------------------------|------------------| | Nighttime House Drama | [01:49–07:31] | | Luke, Kristen, and Bravo Dad Discourse | [04:17–08:04] | | Group Recaps, Apologies, Britney’s Instigating | [08:14–16:07] | | Cease & Desist/Divorce Text Fight | [11:10–16:29] | | Safari Parenting Fails | [17:38–27:50] | | Drag Pageant Prep & Danny Meltdown | [35:02–49:10] | | Lala vs. Danny Showdown | [44:05–49:10] |
The hosts bounce between hilarious impersonations, voiced-over “Bravo” cast critiques, and sharp feminist asides. They are merciless with Danny, Luke, and Jesse in particular, and heap praise on Lala and Nia for asserting themselves. The episode is a masterclass in the signature Crappens mix: riotous laughter, sharp social critique, empathy for the women, and delight in the mess that is Bravo group dynamics.
In sum:
This Crappens recap highlights everything that makes “The Valley” (and Bravo universe at large) so binge-worthy: real relationship baggage, unfiltered rage, performative apologies, and moments of unexpected empowerment—all delivered with the hosts’ signature comedic and unapologetic flair.