#3368 RHOA S17E07: Taking The Trip By The Rains

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Episode #3368: "RHOA S17E07: Taking The Trip By The Rains"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: May 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

The hosts, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, dissect and delight in the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA) Season 17, Episode 7: “Dynasty, Diamonds and Drama.” This week’s RHOA episode goes full throttle on petty feuds, wild paranoia, messy alliances, and unforgettable shade, all while the ladies attempt to enjoy Cynthia’s "gala" in Dallas—a trip repeatedly blown off course by old rumors, new injuries, and classic Housewives’ antics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Chili Cheese Frito Incident & Ongoing Paranoia

• The episode opens with the aftermath of Kelly calling Portia’s private parts “a chili cheese Frito,” a moment that Ben admits “stuck with me all week” ([03:21]).
• Ronnie and Ben riff on the image and question the intent, discussing how the cast keeps circling back to body/food jokes, much to K. Michelle’s distress.
• Notable Quote:
  “If you’re thinking about someone else’s poosay enough that you're like, I'll bet that's like chili cheese frito pie… you're thinking about my vajayjay too much.” – Ben ([03:34])

2. K. Michelle’s Sensitivity and Paranoia

• K. Michelle’s defensive and suspicious responses are scrutinized. Ben initially rationalizes her sensitivity due to past trauma from Love and Hip Hop but wonders if it’s “just extreme paranoia” ([04:34]).
• Ronnie draws a metaphor to horror movies:
  “There could be a totally benign scene, but I’m always convinced there’s going to be a jump scare… and I think at this point she’s now anticipating it behind every corner.” ([06:23])
• K. Michelle herself admits to being guarded and perpetually on defense, cementing her as the season's wild card.

3. The Van Ride & Regional Tangents

• The ladies’ latest fight escalates on a van, giving Ben and Ronnie a chance to riff on Southern traditions (from Arkansas weddings to Memphis pyramids) but always circling back to RHOA’s wild disputes ([08:05]-[11:16]).
• Ronnie’s trip to Tennessee, Ben’s stories about Arkansas, and “woo pig suey” sidetrack the recap but set the show’s irreverent, playful tone.

4. Scissoring Scandal & Married Men Shade

• Debate erupts over “scissoring” accusations, with Portia denying interest and Kelly firing back.
  “Scissoring sounds hard. It sounds like exercise.” – Ben ([11:40]) “Cynthia’s like, those legs, they can’t even make it around Portia’s ass.” ([12:05])
• Portia throws shade at Kelly for allegedly dating a married man (“he’ll never give you a dime”), to which Ben quips,
  “The morals aren’t bad because you a married man. The morals are bad because you a stingy married man.” ([13:38])

5. The “Rose” Debate: From Sex Toys to Running Gags

• Multiple cast members discuss “the rose.” Ben and Ronnie take a beat to figure out it’s a vibrator, then spiral into jokes about sex toys and picnic themes.
• Notable Quote:
  “When I tried the rose that one time, I sat there and I looked at it for like 30 minutes. Like, who are you? Who sent you?” – Portia, as recalled by Ben ([15:18])
• Cynthia jumps in with deadpan product placement, turning the drama into inadvertent ads for tequila and vibrators ([17:08]).

6. Pinky’s Barfing & The “Food Poisoning or Shade?” Mystery

• The group eats at Bar Eden (“so close to Barbara Eden!”), but Pinky is sick and misses most of the meal, sparking concern and jokes ([20:13]-[23:40]).
• An innocent joke about oysters leads K. Michelle to spiral—she conflates a food safety quip into renewed “vagina shade,” again reinforcing her paranoia ([24:49]-[25:39]).

7. K. Michelle’s Breakdown and Conspiracy Theory

• At breakfast, K. Michelle claims someone warned her of an anti-K. Michelle “plot” involving old rumors about her body and alleged affairs ([36:06]).
• She’s vague about specifics, inciting confusion. Ben and Ronnie suggest producers or other cast members (especially Shamia and Kelly) are riling her up, but K. Michelle’s biggest antagonist seems to be her own imagination.
• Notable Quote:
  “If it was eight years ago and a headline on The Jasmine Brand, it’s already public.”—Ben ([38:50])
• The accusation tornado sparks another round of infighting, with Shamia and Drew caught in the crossfire, unable to clarify or escape K. Michelle’s suspicions.

8. Shamia as the "Fall Guy" & House Meeting Chaos

• Shamia, feeling blamed for K. Michelle’s paranoia, calls a dramatic house meeting—in a bikini—declaring, “I did not plot or plan anything!” ([57:21]-[58:58]).
• Ben and Ronnie marvel at Shamia’s logic:
  “I have the same facials as you guys make … when you’re plotting and planning on some other people…” ([52:42])
• Angela and Portia try to untangle grievances, but Shamia and K. Michelle both weaponize their status as “the real victim.”

9. Physical Stand-offs and Vicious Reads

• The “plot” drama escalates: Drew stands up, K. Michelle threatens to, and Pinky tries to keep the peace. The group disintegrates into shouting about affairs, old rumors, and who actually started what.
• K. Michelle throws savage reads at Drew and Portia:
  “You been promoting synthetic hair over there on Buford highway that never sold…” ([49:56])
  “You want to worry about what a man’s gonna say about if my vagina smells like a herd or like a Glade candle.” ([50:01])
• The hosts love the hypocrisy:
  “She’s dissed every one of them down to their core… They’ve said nothing to her.” – Ben ([60:57])

10. Cynthia’s Gala—Delayed, Drenched, and Derailed

• Hurricane-level rain nearly ruins Cynthia’s “Dynasty Meets Dallas” gala. The jeweler’s police escort scene is nearly more suspenseful than the drama itself ([71:55]-[75:39]).
• Drew shows up 3+ hours late for the event, causing further frustration:
  “That’s totally disrespectful… So rude… you do not get credit for this if you show up that late.” – Ben ([79:07])

11. Closing Thoughts & Meta-Commentary

• Ben and Ronnie underscore that K. Michelle is acting exactly as she fears everyone else will treat her, but also admit it makes for supremely entertaining TV:
  “What she’s afraid the show is going to be is what she is being on this show. Like, nobody else is being that way except her, and it's cracking.” – Ben ([66:31])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• [03:34] Ben: “If you’re thinking about someone else’s poosay enough… you’re thinking about my vajayjay too much.”
• [06:23] Ronnie: “I think at this point she’s now anticipating [a jump scare] behind every corner.”
• [11:40] Ben: “Scissoring sounds hard. It sounds like exercise.”
• [13:38] Ben: “The morals aren’t bad because you a married man. The morals are bad because you a stingy married man.”
• [15:18] Portia (via Ben): “When I tried the rose that one time, I just sat there and looked at it for like 30 minutes. Like, who are you?”
• [25:39] Ben: “Everyone thought that except K. Michelle. So she seems to be getting all offended…”
• [38:50] Ben: “If it was eight years ago and a headline on The Jasmine Brand, it’s already public.”
• [42:25] Ronnie as K. Michelle: “I, as a musical artist and rum baron, would feel…”
• [49:56] K. Michelle (shade): “You’ve been promoting synthetic hair over there on Buford highway that never sold.”
• [50:01] K. Michelle: “…And then you over there fighting for a home with a whole man in the basement, Drew.”
• [60:57] Ben: “She’s come on here and she’s dissed every one of them down to their core… and she’s like the big victim in all of it.”
• [73:03] Drew (after a fight): “The cheat time came out. Okay, the cheat time came out.”
• [79:07] Ben: “You do not get credit for this if you show up that late. That’s totally disrespectful.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:00] – K. Michelle’s paranoia and response to shade
• [11:00] – Scissoring fight breaks down
• [15:00] – The “rose” sex toy explained
• [24:49] – K. Michelle upset over oyster jokes
• [36:04] – K. Michelle's plot allegations surface at breakfast
• [49:56] – K. Michelle’s infamous shade-throwing monologue
• [57:21] – The bikini house meeting (Shamia’s meltdown)
• [71:55] – Cynthia’s gala: the rain, the jewels, and the lateness
• [79:07] – Drew arrives late to the gala

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Episode Tone & Style

• The recap is irreverent, sharp-witted, and loaded with pop-culture analogies.
• Both hosts move swiftly between genuine Housewives analysis (“She’s really paranoid and it’s great TV…”) and meta-jokes (“Dynasty meets Dallas, not act like them!”).
• Frequent asides and tangents (regional traditions, weddings, Southern food) keep the vibe playful and accessible, even for listeners not glued to Bravo.
• The hosts punctuate the wild RHOA drama with their own speculative theories (“Clearly, Shamia is playing both sides!”) and zingers about housewives’ priorities, logic, and glam expectations.

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Final Takeaways

• K. Michelle’s suspicions and emotional volatility were the episode’s focal point, creating resonance and chaos in equal measure.
• Shamia’s attempts to clear her name ironically made her appear guiltier to both the hosts and cast.
• Cynthia’s Dallas “gala” embodied RHOA pageantry—complete with rain, jewels, police escorts, and epic tardiness.
• No clear resolutions, only escalated drama and ever-shifting alliances—a classic, hilarious RHOA installment, made even richer by the hosts’ comedic lens.

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Transcript

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[Kelly]

Hi.

[Ben Mandelker]

What's going on, baby?

[Ronnie Caram]

Not much. Very exciting times here in the world of Crappens because our cabaret is soon. You can get tickets to stream it because it's sold out in person. And that's gonna be on June 3rd and June 5th. June 5th, June 3rd, June 5th. Ticket links are on our website and our social media. So you can just go there and watch this madness.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, basically how that works is you can buy the tickets up to showtime and then you can't buy them anymore. But you, once you buy them, you can stream them for a week. But don't think like, oh, just buy them later. You have to get them before showtime. Yeah, got that figured out this week. Yeah, before curtain time, whatever.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, yeah. Because once that curtain, like goes up, you, the, the, the streamer is like, no, no more. You are in your seat. This is going to be a very professional cabaret with very professional songs and all the lyrics definitely memorized. So get your tickets.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's gonna be completely professional.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, very memorized. Which reminds me, we should look into that teleprompter. Anywho. No, we're gonna have. But I will say this, we are having a lot of fun with these songs. Just making goofy songs. And we're gonna have a. We're just gonna have a silly time. And so we just hope you have a silly time too. You know what we should do, Ronnie? We should like print out the lyrics to get it to the audience. That way if we forget our lines, the audience can sing along to help Us, like, oh, yes. Thank you, thank you, line.

[Ben Mandelker]

God. All right, so today is Real Housewives of Atlanta, Season 17, Episode 7, Dynasty, Diamonds and Drama.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Wow, what an episode. What a Sunday night for Bravo. Just two back to back crazy episodes. So this one leaves off with right after Kelly has called Porsche's hooha a chili cheese Frito. And you know what?

[Ben Mandelker]

That stuck with me all week. I have to say, it really stuck with me all week, because I get that that's supposed to be disgusting, but it also sounds delicious. And just the. Just the image of it. That's terrible.

[Ronnie Caram]

It is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Call somebody that I know. It is kind of cheese Frito. And how would you even know if you weren't trying to get into it? Like, you're thinking about it too much. If you're thinking about someone else's poo, say enough that you're like, I'll bet that's like chili cheeto. Free chili cheese frito pie. You're thinking about my vajayjay too much.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, it's like. It's like one of those things, like, I'm just having a visual of, like, the. The frito bag that's, like, cut open, slit open. And then they put, like, the Fritos are there, and they put the chili on top of it. And it's a stirring image. And the funny part is that Kelly literally calls Portia a chili cheese frito pussy. And it's just like, one of many that just, like, happens. And then, like, later in the episode, they make a joke about something completely unrelated because. Because Pinky is sick. They made a joke about, ooh, check the oysters. And it's K. Michelle who is, like, spins out about, you know, her vagina.

[Ben Mandelker]

So who'd have thought, like, K. Michelle's crazy, right? Is that crazy? So we're just walking away with this from this episode, like, oh, so you're crazy. At first I thought, oh, she's a little oversensitive. You know, she's new to the group. She talks about how she was traumatized by being on Love and Hip, which, I mean, I don't know. Okay, I'll go with it. You know, we. We take all sorts of traumas on Bravo these days. Love and hip hop is your trauma. I'll take it. But now this episode, I was like, oh, you're just, like, paranoid. You're like a paranoid, paranoid. You're. You're like, paranoid, delusional chick. And let me tell you, I support it. I think it's hilarious.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's hilarious. But I was watching it like all these weeks because she keeps on, she keeps on taking offense to things and I've just been like, ben, be patient. It's, there's probably something, this is probably something you don't understand. You don't know what it's like to be a woman. You don't know what it's like to be a black woman. These are, there are things here what she is sensitive to. Like, it's just out of your, it's out of your context. So don't make fun of it. Just accept it and allow her to be, you know, annoyed by this person because that's her lived experience. But at this point I'm like, they were not talking about your vagina.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're literally crazy. All that aside, like, you're nuts. Yeah. And I, I, I really love it. Yeah. Because at some point I was like, well, maybe she's just over sensitive. Or maybe somebody did mean it that way. I mean, I don't know. But at this point I'm like, oh, you're not just starting things for tv. Like, you really think they're out to get you. But like, who's telling you? Because it does seem like Shamia and Kelly got her all riled up for this, you know, I mean, that seems pretty obvious. Yeah, but she didn't need to be riled up for the Porsche thing before or the other things that have been happening.

[Ronnie Caram]

Phaedra, Phaedra, like, caught astray in all this because the way Phaedra laughed at that pedicure and I mean, look, I have no context about love and hip hop. I don't know what that experience was like for her, but I mean, it seems like that is real trauma for her because she is on this show and she is so guarded about, like, what this cast is going to do for her. Like, she's so. It's like me watching a scary movie. There could be a totally benign scene, but I'm always convinced there's going to be a jump scare. So I'm tense the entire time because I'm waiting for jump scare in every single scene. Even when it's like a happy Philly cheese Frito. And I'm like, so she's waiting for her jump scare. And I think at this point she's now anticipating it behind every corner.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I don't know, it's the jump scare. You have become the jump scare.

[Ronnie Caram]

God bless.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now they're all tense, afraid of her, you know, about to go off. And I just think it's hilarious. I love it. I want someone to be here from the cast of Love and Broadway and just have Patti LuPone read some of these lines like, oh, really? You don't even know this vagina. I've had 19 vaginas since I had that vagina.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, I would love a Patti LuPone reading. I'm sure Andy will arrange for that in the clubhouse soon enough. But I think we can all agree that I think this season of Atlanta is probably the best one they've had in years. It's just so funny. It's that one episode aside where it was, like, really overproduced. The first episode, when they got to Dallas, that was rough, but everything else has been, like, pretty strong. And this, like, they're having real drama again. Petty drama. And I'm feeling really good about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, that's good. Okay, so they're fighting on the.

[Ronnie Caram]

Thanks.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're fighting on the van. I didn't mean that in a rude way. It came off ruder than I thought.

[Ronnie Caram]

You're hard. It's okay. I just was in the South. I didn't mean it. This weekend.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm doing this from Texas.

[Ronnie Caram]

I was in Tennessee. Isn't it crazy that I was in Memphis this weekend? I actually went to Arkansas. Oh, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

We haven't even talked about it. You were just in Arkansas. I was just in Arkansas two weeks. I know how crazy that both of us would. Would be in Arkansas within a week of each other.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. That doesn't even make sense.

[Ben Mandelker]

It doesn't.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. There's. But by the way, shout out to my cousin Liza getting. She got married to her lovely new husband, Kyle, Liza and Gunn.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's cute. Yeah, Liza. Speaking of love and Broadway, was she like, I take you, Kyle. I take you to be the man of my dream.

[Ronnie Caram]

Ring them bells. You gotta ring them bells. He lived in 49F and she was 49E. Did they do that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Did they do that thing at the wedding? I love that in Arkansas, girl. They do that everywhere.

[Ronnie Caram]

Everywhere you go.

[K. Michelle]

What was that?

[Ronnie Caram]

What was that?

[Ben Mandelker]

When I went to my niece's graduation in Arkansas. They do. I was going to leave early, you know, just to. I hate people. Like, I hate the crowd. So I was like, I'm going to pee and I'll meet you in the parking lot. And she's like, no, no, you have to stay for Woo Pig Sui. I was like, what the fuck? When I tell you. Okay. So the whole stadium is like thousands of people. They're like, okay, now for. Now to bliss Arkansas or whatever. And they go like this. They go, oh, pink Sue.

[Ronnie Caram]

Pink, silly.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like a whole stadium doing it was the weirdest shit I've ever seen. Okay, that's. I've never seen, like, that straight people are crazy. And so I put it on, like, Instagram or whatever, and someone said, not all straight people are crazy. I said, okay, not all straight people are crazy, but all of these people were straight people. So think about.

[Ronnie Caram]

They were crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Exactly.

[Ronnie Caram]

That is funny. I only dipped my toe into Arkansas. But the wedding was in Memphis, so there was no pig chop suey, whatever it was. Oh, it was just like pretty chill, chill, chill vibes going on over there. But it was fun to finally go. But I did go into a pyramid there. You know, there's a giant pyramid. Have you been to Memphis?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no. Remember I wanted to move to Memphis. And you were like, no, no, you're not. Well, it is randomly, because there were cheap properties there.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's really.

[Ben Mandelker]

You get a house for $5 in Memphis. I was like, bye.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, like, literally, I. I had a breakfast sandwich for $6 there. I was like, what? This is crazy because, like, in LA it'd be $15. There's a pyramid there, and I went to it. And the pyramid, it's a giant pyramid, and it's a bass pro shop. And I mean, need I say more? It's a bass pro shop with a pyramid. I mean, inside a pyramid. It was great.

[Ben Mandelker]

Aliens built. I mean, it leaves so many questions where to come from.

[Ronnie Caram]

The aliens definitely built it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

The aliens were like, we come in peace and we will leave you duck callers.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, so here we are at a bass pro shop pyramid in Memphis, and Porsche is saying, girl, you know that's a lie.

[Kelly]

My my is not like a chili cheese Frito pie. Kelly's like, girl, nobody wants to scissor you. I don't even scissor.

[Ben Mandelker]

And this fight's hilarious. Just scissoring. Just a fight over scissoring in general. I don't.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which, by the way, scissoring sounds hard. It sounds like exercise.

[Ronnie Caram]

It does actually sound hard. Andy's going to talk about this for the next 20 minutes of the reunion. Well, not next, but he will. He will carve out sometimes, like, wow, you guys scissored.

[K. Michelle]

What was that like? Have you.

[Ronnie Caram]

Have you a lot of people. What about you, Angela?

[K. Michelle]

Have you scissored?

[Ronnie Caram]

It's just gonna be about this for, like, non stop. So. So then Cynthia's like, those legs, they can't even make it around Portia's ass.

[K. Michelle]

It's like, okay, yeah, this. So we were in Miami last year after Grenada. And then like at night when we'd gone out, so I was like taking out like a little ho bath. And then I was like, you know, just like, whatever. And then like, Kelly, you know, gotta look at that cat and that platinum post. And she turned to Shmi. And I had her say behind me, oh, I want some of that.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she registered for the moth. You know, it's poetry.

[Ben Mandelker]

And shimmy is like, where was I when this scissoring was gonna happen? Okay, I've never seen or heard of this. And Portia's like, yeah.

[Kelly]

And then on the elevator, she was like, I could come to your room and could, you know, watch TV or something. Then we got to my floor, girl. I said, okay, good night, girl. And then I pressed the close button

[Ben Mandelker]

on my way out because a troll

[Kelly]

was trying to climb a tree that

[Ben Mandelker]

night and I was not gonna have it. But also, that's not how closing buttons on elevators work, right? When you get to your floor and you get out and you press the close button, you don't. I don't think you could.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't think you can do that. You'd have to reach back in and press it, then reach back out really quickly before the sensors registered that your arm was there. Cuz if the sensors, it would open up again anyway. So, yeah, it's not really how elevators work. But that's fine. That's fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I'm not into girls.

[K. Michelle]

I'm not into girls.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't want a girl, okay.

[K. Michelle]

I want waffles.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she's saying she doesn't scissor. And then porch is like, yeah, but you can.

[K. Michelle]

But you continue to that married man. She's like, excuse me, he will never give you a dime.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, I love. I love Porsche's Portia saying, you're that guy and you're never gonna get a dime out of it. Implying that, like, the only reason to someone is to get a dime out of it, and you're wasting your time.

[Ben Mandelker]

The morals aren't bad because you a married man. The morals are bad because you a stingy married man.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, it's a bad investment, you know,

[Ben Mandelker]

Bad, bad investment of your vajay.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's true.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, this, you know, it's. It's as easy to a poor married man as it is to a rich married man.

[Ronnie Caram]

So, yeah, so they're going back and forth like, who is this? Who is this? Who is it? Who is it? And Porsche Knows. I mean, I'm. Phaedra knows with this. But who is it? Portia won't say. And Portia's like, you know. Kelly's like, I don't. You know what? I don't. I don't give a flying. I'm grown and I'm single.

[K. Michelle]

It's like, oh, you definitely give a flying thought because we made up. I sent you flowers. You needn't want them. You put them up your ass. I don't care.

[Ronnie Caram]

She goes, well, I don't want them,

[K. Michelle]

and I don't need them on my ass.

[Kelly]

Well, put him there, though.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, you need a rose. Not me. I'm all right.

[Kelly]

It's like, whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Pinky's like, wow. It's given. Everybody needs a rose. Hell, I need a rose sometimes, too. So Phaedra's like, wow, I don't even see people talking about that rose anymore.

[Ronnie Caram]

Was the rose a metaphor for something more than a rose?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I guess it turned into one. Does it mean, like, a Poussace? Is that, like, your rose, bud?

[Ronnie Caram]

I was wondering. I mean, we're gonna have to. As the great Aretha Franklin once sang, a rose is just a rose. But apparently it might be more than that here, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

This is where, like, being now. Yeah, this is where I'm like, so anyway, that bad shop, I think it's

[Ben Mandelker]

a toy because I got the sense

[Ronnie Caram]

that there was, like, a toy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Because Porsche is like, well, I'm. I'm scared of using those toys because you get desensitized. Like, when I tried the rose that one time, I sat there and I looked at it for, like 30 minutes. Like, who are you? Who sent you? Okay, let's look it up. Did you look it up?

[Ronnie Caram]

It's a remote control wearable vibrator, which, of course, we knew. Guys, we knew. We're totally up on these things.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, just edit that out. Just edit that.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, just.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Original rose vibrator. Oh, wow. It looks like a rose. It looks like a wiener with a rose attached to it by a rope. And you. I guess you put the wiener in there and then you squeeze the rose.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's a great time to mention as long as we're talking about products, we are doing Amazon Live later today, so come.

[Ben Mandelker]

They might sell this on Amazon.

[Ronnie Caram]

They probably do. We will be talking about. We're gonna be. The theme for today's is going to be picnic because it's Memorial Day weekend. And so I guess this maybe qualifies under the eating out category. Oh, speaking of Memorial Day, we forgot to mention this because we got so. Because we're lunatics. Next Monday is Memorial Day here in the States, and we're. It's a long weekend for us. We are taking the weekend off. So we are not going to be recapping Atlanta or Rhode island next week. So we will. We will check in, and we'll.

[Ben Mandelker]

We'll.

[Ronnie Caram]

The following week, we will. We will come in and touch base on those. But just. Just prep, mentally preparing everyone. If you don't know what to do that day without the recaps, there is the rose.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I was gonna say we're not coming here. We're gonna be. We're gonna be coming at home with the rose.

[Ronnie Caram]

Get some. Say love.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, so they're talking about this rose thing, and now they're talking about how great this sex toy is. And I'm like, Porsche is like, yeah,

[Kelly]

I looked at that thing for, like, 30 minutes, and I said, who are you? Who sent you?

[Ben Mandelker]

And Cynthia's like, I can do it under a minute. Okay, 30 seconds, I can be out. And they're. They're all laughing, so shimmy is like, I wet my bed so much, I had to get it out of my house.

[Ronnie Caram]

This is when I was like, I don't think we're talking about roses anymore. Because in my mind, I thought it meant, like, you get a rose, like. Like, you need a. A suitor to give you a rose in a romantic gesture. And at this point, I was like, we're not talking about that. This is when Ben learns about female sex toys. So anyway, but now they're all laughing like, the vibe is good again all of a sudden. And K. Michelle's like, we went from

[K. Michelle]

chili cheese Hot Pockets to everybody's happy and laughing, and. Is this how y' all get down? I don't understand, but I'm trying to figure it out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's like, wait a minute.

[Kelly]

So now y' all are good.

[Ben Mandelker]

She doesn't like that. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a grapplings commercial.

[Ronnie Caram]

Ronnie, do you remember my patio before the Worlds of Wayfair? It was just a desolate, dusty, dirty, sad space where you'd sit down and be like, oh, God, I ruined my pants and my shorts with all the dirt on this grimy furniture. It was awful, awful, awful, awful.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was just a tumbleweed blowing through there.

[Ronnie Caram]

But then Wayfair came along, and now I've got really cool stuff out there. I got cool Chests. You know what I love? I got some Acapulco chairs. They're those chairs that are sort of like, they look egg shaped with like the cables. And you sit in them and you're like, this isn't gonna support me. And it does. And it's actually somehow more comfortable than anything else in your house. I got those.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it looks glorious. You can get every style, every outdoor space. Whether your vibe is modern, coastal, farmhouse, or eclectic, Wayfair has options to help you create an outdoor space that's uniquely yours.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wayfair makes it simple to narrow down what works for you and your silent budget. I mean, they got reviews and they've got filters, they've got visual tools, everything you need to find the right furniture for your outdoor space.

[Ben Mandelker]

And there's everything in one place. You can find outdoor stuff, grills, major appliances. You can find storage. There's patio lighting, rugs, decor. Wayfair is your one stop. Shop for home.

[Ronnie Caram]

Get prepped for patio season. For way less, head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's W A Y-F A I R.com Wayfair Every style. Every home.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wayfair Every style, every home. Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts.

[Paige]

Why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic source in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast.

[Ronnie Caram]

Healthcare just got less painful.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we go to a place called Bar Eden and Pinky's just. She can't walk.

[Ronnie Caram]

I got.

[Ben Mandelker]

I got to go piss out some bankruptcy

[Ronnie Caram]

list. Just give me a moment. Just tell Barbara Eden to hold on. I'll just go to the bathroom real quickly and tell her I dream of Genie too. It's like, no, it's called Bar Eden, by the way. It's so close to Barbara Eden. Like, it's just too. Like, I can't deal with how. Like, it's like naming. It's like literally naming a restaurant like Sea Arthur or Be Arthur's too a Liz Montgomery. It's like, finish it. Finish. Get it. Don't do this to me. You can't at least give us a Barbie.

[Ben Mandelker]

A Barbie Eden. You know, like, we're all friends with Barbara, so we just call her Barb. Barb Eden.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, why? Why do they do this to us?

[Ben Mandelker]

So close. So Pinky has to go to the bathroom. And everybody else starts ordering. And Pinky's, I feel, signal Cynthia's fault. And meanwhile, back at the table, people are talking about cooking. And Portia's like, oh, I can't cook, but Mike can. And they're like, oh, is he gonna come? Oh, some of the husbands are gonna come to this thing tomorrow. And so Kelly is. You know, I was talking about how fun. And Cynthia's like, my tita, my tita, my tequila Commissario gala is only one day away, praise the Lord, and he can't come fast enough. I. I need the ladies to put their energy into their soap opera gowns and the hair to the heavens. She. Cynthia's like a walking commercial today. Everything she says, she's like, that's how this would feel if you had some casamigo Casa flulu in your. Whatever the. It's called commissario in your life.

[Ronnie Caram]

My favorite actress is commissario Dawson. I just. I. I love how she keeps on calling it a gala. I'm like, please stop calling a gala. This is not a gala. It's a part. It's a cocktail party. But, like, she keeps on saying gala like it's a ballroom and it's gonna be black tie. It's a cocktail party. But so she's telling us. Cynthia's telling us that, you know, Kay's bringing her husband and Pinky's bringing her husband. People are bringing all their men. And she's like, guys, I thought it'd be really cute to have a miss Tequila contest. And whoever's the best dressed will get a nice little something another.

[Kelly]

And.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Porsche's like, oh, wow.

[K. Michelle]

Now you tell us this after we ordered the dresses. Thanks a lot.

[Ronnie Caram]

But then they start to realize, you know, we've been sitting here laughing for about 30 minutes, and Pinky, like, the food has arrived and Pinky is still not there. So Cynthia goes to check in on her, and Pinky is just, you know, puking in the bathroom. Basically.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Just barfing and barfing as. And I don't think that Cynthia realizes that she's trying to plug her tequila while it's being intercut with somebody barfing.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cynthia's like, I'm gonna do this game for the tequila. It tastes like this. Cut to. So Porsche's like, you better go check on her.

[Kelly]

You're gonna be in trouble again.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Cynthia goes to check on Pinky, and Cynthia, you know, she's like, are you okay? And she's like, worked, I guess. And she Goes, you want me to bring you some bread or anything? No, do not bring me bread when I'm pooping out of every orifice in my body. And I'm on the pot, too. Don't bring me a basket of bread into the bathroom.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, no. Yeah. This is just the ginger ale. I don't know. She's just. Pinky is suffering, and Cynthia's like, that. Cynthia, of course, is patting herself on the back. She's like, see, this is why you got to be nice to people, because you never know when you're going to need somebody. Pinky has worn me out since the beginning of the trip, and now she needs to help. Needs me to help her.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would not offer that person bread. I would offer her an Uber. That's what I would offer her. There's no. There's no second chances. You're barfing at the beginning of dinner. Get the fuck out of here. Okay, here's your Uber. It's a vegan Uber. Go cloth.

[Ronnie Caram]

I like when Cynthia goes, she's done for the night. There ain't a TED Talk left in her right now. She's like, wait, give me 12 minutes.

[Ben Mandelker]

So back at the table, Cynthia's like, okay, I was just with Pinky. She didn't eat anything today. And the tequila, I mean, she's not feeling good. And Phaedra's like, well, we should leave then. Which is nice to leave dinner. No, you shouldn't leave unless you're leaving her there to be a drunk ass by yourself who can't keep it together to go to dinner. Dinner that is her own. Damn. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere.

[Ronnie Caram]

Even if all you did have was fries for lunch, still, like, you're an adult. Like, you should know how to drink. So Cynthia's like, yeah, she can't go anywhere. And I don't want to hit the road before she's done. So when she feels like she can go, hit the road. So then Drew is like, oh, well, be careful with the oysters, Cynthia. To me, it was a clear joke that, you know, don't get food poisoning. Be careful with those oysters, you know?

[K. Michelle]

So Por's like, let me take him first.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she pokes at them, and then they're like, what are you doing? She's like, what are you checking for? What are you checking? And they're just like. It's like a funny moment. Like, oh, my God. Like, don't get sick, right? And then Portia goes, that vagina is clean. She goes, this me.

[K. Michelle]

This one might Be a little sand.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so she's making jokes because oysters are often associated with aphrodisiac. And, like, it all makes sense. K. Michelle is not happy.

[Ben Mandelker]

K. Michelle is not happy. And this was so funny, because you're right. I mean, it was so you're like, well, I thought it was about food poisoning. Everyone thought that. Everyone thought that except K. Michelle. So she seems to be getting all offended, and now we go to the bathroom, and Pinky's just stumbling out of the stall, and she's got booties on her shoes. Her pant legs are pulled up. She's a mess. So back at the table, Shamia's like, so, K. Michelle, how are you feeling? Seemed upset on the bus.

[Kelly]

And she like, I feel like I'm just. I'm just trying to be holy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, what?

[Ronnie Caram]

What do you mean?

[Kelly]

She like, well, it's just. There's a lot of stuff I've been wanting to say, but I just won't say it. I will not say it now.

[Ronnie Caram]

By the way, she was already. She's upset by the bus because she was upset by how the women could turn so quickly. And she was like, wow, if they could turn so quickly, that's dangerous. They're. They're ready to carve each other up, up. And I'm not gonna be carved up, right? Like, that's her vibe. And then this oyster thing happens. So now she's really upset, and she's

[K. Michelle]

like, this is not safe. Y' all are beating the hell out of each other.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Portia's like, well, my intentions were

[K. Michelle]

not to have the conversation the bus with Kelly. My intention is to try to have individual conversations at dinner. Instead. It's better for the cameraman.

[Kelly]

Well, let me speak for myself, says Kelly.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, we're in an uncomfortable space

[Kelly]

with one another, and we're trying to digest what's happening. In this case, we're trying to digest Portia's Frito pie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, okay, maybe we should just stop talking about food around Kelly. Because she was upset about the Frito pie thing, and now she's upset about the oyster thing. You know?

[K. Michelle]

Wait a second. Wait a second. When you said Portia's. When he said Portia's frita pie, you

[Ronnie Caram]

were talking about my. Weren't you? It's like, no. She literally said, portia, you're reading tweets

[Kelly]

about me from eight years ago. So Portia's like, yeah, well, I'll check myself, because I was very disappointed in me on the bus because, you know, How I talked about, you know, your businesses opening and closing and how you can't keep anything open and how your waffles taste like butt hairs. You know, that's just not me. It's not the kind of person I am. Or I was talking about how you were married guys, you know, and broke and bankrupt and pathetic and short. That's just not me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just repeating everything she said before.

[K. Michelle]

Now, when you say bus.

[Ronnie Caram]

Buses are long and hard, sort of like a penis and penis is going vagina. So we talked about my vagina all this time.

[K. Michelle]

No, I wasn't. I'm just talking about the bus.

[Kelly]

So this is not who I am today. And you and I can have a further conversation, Kelly.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, we're good. We're good.

[Kelly]

She's like, okay, well, I can respect that, and I can move on with that, and we can be in a group, and, you know, let's. Let's do a cheers. And this is, I guess, gonna be the quietest cheers we've ever done in this entire trip. Ha ha ha.

[Ben Mandelker]

Andrew's like, well, I did want to

[Kelly]

ask Kay a question, because I know you were saying, like, how you were feeling, and so I was just wanting to know what had you feeling a certain way. Okay. She's like, can I say something to you? Of course. I've been very standoffish with you because you keep saying, oh, she knows my friend Black. I really don't know the man.

[Ronnie Caram]

She was like, what?

[K. Michelle]

She's like, yeah, the only way that I know this man is because he. He's in my DMS and he's, like, linking my little sister stuff. Like, my little sister stuff. And, like, I got a whole husband and, like, I don't know nothing about that band.

[Ronnie Caram]

And came. And Drew was like, what the hell? And Kim and Shell goes, yeah.

[K. Michelle]

When it comes to this lady Drew, all I know is that when I was entering this friend group, the talk around Atlanta was that she's trying to

[Ronnie Caram]

connect me to her jump off, and

[K. Michelle]

she's trying to make it seem like I have something deeper with him, but I don't.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Drew's like, well, I don't know where that's coming from. I said to you one time, it's not something I've repeated or said multiple times.

[K. Michelle]

I think.

[Ronnie Caram]

I think for the first time, I said something about on the bus yesterday.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so.

[Kelly]

And what. And why would she say that? I'm like, why would she say that?

[Ben Mandelker]

And Kelly's like, yeah, you don't know. You didn't know. Black was in her DMs. And she's like, no, I don't know anything. He was flirting with you in your DMs.

[Kelly]

It's like, yeah, he was throwing hearts and stuff under my pancakes that I'm baking.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she's like, is that we. Were you making actual pound cakes or you. Was that some. Is that like, another word for. Yeah, we're still relating food to vaginas. I'm a real pound cakes, so Phaedra's like, blood cannot be stirring up this much commotion in the group. The boy isn't. Is. Isn't so pretty. I mean, look, he might choke you out, but put those big teeth on. You paid your. Cracking herself up in the interviews.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know the nature of your friendship. I don't know that he's in your DMS, but he can't be in your

[Kelly]

DMs because he's single. He's. He's got a lot of women's DMs. We're not. Not together.

[Ben Mandelker]

Me and Black. And Cynthia's like, well, it feels like you like each other. And she's like, well, he probably does like me.

[Kelly]

And you know what? I just don't know what the future holds.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, Drew just takes. This is like, okay, I'm just going to talk about myself now. You know? She's like, you know, as an actress,

[Kelly]

it's really difficult to know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Shamia's like, oh, my God, please. It wouldn't take her long to make a man happy. It takes five minutes to make a man happy. And Drew's like, well, it's just enjoyable

[Kelly]

to have someone that's going to just kick it with me and make me laugh, balance me out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Me is like, oh, yeah, she's on the phone with him for hours. I mean, you have to care about somebody. Dming, give me a break. So Shimmy is over there sewing discord for no reason, you know?

[Ronnie Caram]

Although in this case, I think this is, like, valid discord. But she should have said it to the group. And Drew is like, is there more to be said? Shamia's whispering stuff to K. And Shamia just gives us look like, ugh. Because, by the way, it's clear that, like, Drew and Black, their relationship is either, hey, if you. I'll let you come on the show and, like, will you come on the show, be my interest? Or they have something going on, but she can't admit they have something going on because I guess maybe she's worried that it'll Imperil the divorce proceedings. So she's acting like they're just friends, which is clearly whatever their relationship is. I don't believe they're just friends. And so she's taking all these dances like, it's fine. It's fine. I'm like, I do not believe you whatsoever.

[Ben Mandelker]

So anyway, let me ask. What Shamia's doing is, like, taking this and trying to make it a big deal to K. Michelle. She's like, oh, yes, she does care. And she does care about that man. And that's why she's saying, you know, blah, blah, blah. It seems like she's the one sewing the discord with K. Michelle, because who would care? I mean, all she said was, oh, you know, Black. Right? That's literally all she said. So I don't understand without somebody in. In K. Michelle's ear, you know, making it a bigger deal. Why is it a big deal? Because then we see the clip of K. Michelle meeting Black on the phone at the party when he was the phone date, and she's like, oh, hello.

[Kelly]

So good to see you as well, you know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it did seem like she knew him. So I don't know what the. I don't know why this is so dramatic. You know, someone seems to be making it dramatic.

[Ronnie Caram]

Show me. Well, so then they get up to leave, and Kay turns to Shamia, and

[K. Michelle]

she's like, what is wrong with you?

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, what do you mean?

[K. Michelle]

I mean, we're trying to have a Kumbaya moment, and you're just being really shady.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, with who? You're okay, you're never gonna be cool or make up the Drew or none of that if. Keep on. If you keep on doing this sort of stuff. So K. Michelle, basically is like, taking Shamia to task for trying to stir up, like, a moment and try to pit them against each other.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's like, well, but he was. She was throwing digs at me, so if she's throwing, I'm throwing them back. Did she throw a dig at Shamia? I don't remember her.

[Ronnie Caram]

Not in that moment. Not in that moment.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Drew is walking out with Angela, and she's like, oh, my God. She's whispering to K. Like, why doesn't she just resolve it with me if she's got a problem? So then we go back to K and Shamia, and Kay's like, you were

[Kelly]

just trying to create new beef. Just talk to her. Leave it. Just leave it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, and she's like, well, Tell me how I tried to create beef. I didn't say nothing.

[Kelly]

And she's like, well, every time she say something to you, me make these little noises. You know, you have your own little commentary going on.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Shamia's like, you know, every other minute, Thing one and thing two want to bring up Portia. And then we have montage of people of, like, Angela bringing up Portia to show me everyone's doing, basically. I mean, she does have a point here, which is that Angela and Drew are always during the pot about the Shami and Portia situation. So she's like, well, I just had this one thing. I mean, do I look like I want to talk about Portia? Yes. I mean, like, you rode that wave last year. Can't we do something else different? Can we focus on the. On the black smoke that she's trying to see through? So, K, Michelle's like, you never did grow up in the hood, did you? She's like, no, I didn't. Yeah, because you'd get dropped off in the hood. Like, you need to get dropped off in the hood because you'd be. You'd be on some other.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now it's day three, and they're doing little morning activities, calling their families, etc and Angela. So they're gathering for breakfast, and Pinky's feeling better, and Angela's like, so you see, we don't kick you while you're down. We want you to stand up to kick you. She's like, thanks, guys.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And she's like, you guys have fun. And, like, yeah, it was good. And they're all, you know, she's saying it was. Everyone said they had a nice time, and then they sort of realized, like, hey, where's K? Where did K go? So Phaedra goes to check in on K. And Cynthia has the sore throat or whatever. But anyway, Pinky Cynthia tells a story about. How about, like, if you use honey, it's gonna fix your sore throat, etc. Etc.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everybody's like, oh, my God. It's like, calm. It goes down your throat. Just make it drip, drip, drip down. It feels so good. What.

[Kelly]

What are you all on?

[Ben Mandelker]

Look at some of that in your throb.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Phaedra comes back, and she's like, yeah, Pinky was just relaxing. She'll be down soon enough. And the plan for today is that they're going to get into their gowns. They've got a jeweler coming over. They're gonna get iced out and everything. And then Drew has to explain to the Audience, you know what iced out means. You know, she explains ice, that is your drip. You know, know I'm wearing icebox. Shows her jewels and everything. So anyway, Cynthia's like, well, in any case, I feel like we got to a good space yesterday. I want to stay in that space for tonight. So enter K. Michelle.

[Ben Mandelker]

So K. Michelle comes in, and she's in a. You know, she's. She seems down. So they're like, you okay? It's like, well, how was dinner?

[K. Michelle]

Good.

[Ben Mandelker]

Good conversation?

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Angela's like, well, at dinner yesterday, Gay, you said you didn't feel safe. Is that true? And she's like,

[K. Michelle]

no, no.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she starts crying, and they're like, what is going on with you? And she's like, I mean, y' all

[Kelly]

can sit there and say you care about people, but then you're sitting there plotting and trying to do stuff to people. And I know if I know that a motherfucker is sitting there plotting my hurt, I'm not gonna smile in your face. And I know I know exactly the whole plot. I know it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Angela's like, what's. What's the plot?

[Kelly]

Nobody's gonna be plotting against me and smiling my face.

[K. Michelle]

None of you. Portia's like, is there anything we can do? Who is it? Who did it?

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, yeah, who did this? And Kimisha's like, you know who you are. Because of course it's Portia. So she's not gonna say it. And Angela's like, I mean, everyone's trying to figure out what's going on. Like, what the is happening where you have to come to breakfast crying like, girl, eat. Get some food.

[Kelly]

I mean, everybody might not know, but.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Angel's like, yeah, I don't know. We don. Know Porch.

[Kelly]

Like, wait, wait, wait. I feel responsible, okay? I brought you to this group, and I want you to have an opportunity to get to know everybody. So I don't feel good about this. Like, even when you sat down and I looked at your face, I want to tell you. I want you to tell me what's going on, because if I got to deal with it for you, I will deal with it for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

So K is just all upset.

[Kelly]

She's like, I cannot do it right now. I'm not the space. I'm just. I'm not in the space. And I'll get mad, and I know little jokes, and I want you as a person at this table to know that you are a low down, and that's why you ain't got. And I see every Goddamn thing.

[Ronnie Caram]

They're like, whoa, was this what? Okay, Michelle explains.

[K. Michelle]

She goes, last night after we left dinner, someone called me and said that there was a plot and a plane this whole time from some of these ladies. One was to imply that I was with your boyfriend or not boyfriend, whatever the moment.

[Kelly]

Drew.

[K. Michelle]

And then two, to talk about a rumor that a disrupted Lex said eight years ago.

[Ronnie Caram]

So there's a headline from the Jasmine brand and says, k. Michelle says she's suing so and so for. For defamation over comments he made about her lady parts.

[K. Michelle]

So she goes, I already know who you contacted, what blogs you called to go read that and then want to spread that. I think that's very disheartening. And that shows the character of these women.

[Ronnie Caram]

So in summary, someone called her. She says someone called her. Maybe she probably talked to a messy producer or something like that. That's usually what. That's the code for. Says, oh, yeah. Someone wants to make it seem like you are getting up with Drew's. Drew's guy. And someone wants to bring back the rumors about your vagina. Which, by the way, the person who brought back the rumors about the vagina was K. Michelle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes. I had no idea.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, and she's also the one making this black thing, you know, the thing about black a big deal, because nobody made that a big deal. Nobody said anything. He's the one making it sound like, well, well, now he's in your dms. Like, we know you're the one who brought that to the table. Nobody else. It's so bizarre. And I just was thinking, it's Muhammad just working overtime. Like, how many is he gonna defame on this channel? But yeah, and. And also, if it was eight years ago and it was a headline on the Jasmine brand, it's already public. So it's. We. I don't think anybody called her randomly. I think it was Kelly and Shamiya. I mean, yeah, it was Kelly and Shamia doing an after. Like, you better watch out, because this is coming.

[Ronnie Caram]

Watch out. They're probably gonna bring this up. They'll probably bring this up.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she won't say anything to the group. So Shamia is just, like, making faces over here. And so Angela's like, show me. I'm always looking in your face because it's the same face you've been making last night. So what is it? She's like, because this group manipulates and fabricates, and it's annoying. And Angela's like, so you know what she's talking about? She goes, well, I Know what she's dealing with. She confided in me and a few other people. You and Kelly and Pinky?

[Ronnie Caram]

Duh. Shimia is definitely the sort of person that's like, well, we are very close. I'm not going to say what is. Because I don't want to. I don't want to betray our confidence, which is her way of advertising that she has privileged information. So Angela's like, well, why would you hide that from the group? She goes, I'm not hiding anything, but what I am going to do is be a confidant and friend in this case. So Portia is like, okay, so you're

[K. Michelle]

saying you think Shamia's hiding something?

[Ronnie Caram]

And Angela's like, well, I just feel like she knows what's going on and she's not saying anything. Is like, as a friend, I would never tell their secrets because that's what a real friend does. Me, Shamia. Real friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

Fellow music star. Yeah, fellow music star Shamia. So K. Michelle's like, after dinner, I

[Kelly]

decided to go to Shami and Kelly to talk to them about what was being prepared in order to take me down.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, did she tell you guys what they were plotting and planning? The producer sounds like they're gonna laugh. Like, did she tell you what they were plotting and planning?

[Kelly]

She's like, I don't remember.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, no. Kelly says, yeah, I don't remember. And they're like, no, honestly, she's. I really don't. The social media is like, well, she asked us not to speak on it. And as a fellow Grammy watcher, I respect that.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Shamia's like, okay. Am I right? Right. Okay. Because you're looking like, I don't believe you. And Angela's like, no, but like, you had her pent up at the end of the dinner last night. I mean, like, I feel like you're creating a narrative. And she may goes, well, she pulled me to the side because she saw from artist to artist to fellow recording artist to fellow recording artist to fellow hitmaker to fellow future hit maker, she said, I want to pull you to the side.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, I was talking and I was. I was telling her to let it go. Let her go with everything. With Drew.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes, Addressing this shit with Drew. She addressed it with me because I am a confidant, a fellow comrade of the industry confidant.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Portia's like, well, the only thing

[Kelly]

I heard, I heard Shami at the end of the table telling UK that there's no way Drew feels like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Shamia's like, Absolutely. I definitely said, there's no way that I would be on FaceTime with a man for hours on end, find out that he's DMing some of her friends and not feel away about it. And Drew's like, why are you speaking on how I should feel?

[K. Michelle]

Why?

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, I'm speaking on how I, as a musical artist and Rum Baron would feel.

[K. Michelle]

She's like, but for my name to

[Ronnie Caram]

be mentioned is crazy. She's like, no, your name was mentioned because she said, I need to move on with you and we need to. To be depressed more. By the way, Drew saying for my name to be mentioned is crazy. You were talking. It was a conversation about black. How could you even bring me up in that moment? Because you were the topic.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also, you were talking about her at the same time you were walking out saying, why is she acting like that? So Drew's like, stop making this about yourself.

[Kelly]

You know, I'm looking at someone that

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm trying to get to know in

[Kelly]

tears, and you're making it about you. You have a lot of problems and a lot of issues, and it looks like you're feeding bullshit. Shamia.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, you are bullshit. You are bullshit. Oh, well, okay. Andrew's like, well, you just keep bullshit going. You've been the bullshit of the trip. So they argue back and forth. And she's like, I refuse to tell a fellow artist secrets. Andrew's like, oh, God, Shimmy has got back up now so she can go hard for me. And so Portia's like, okay, let's just get.

[Kelly]

Let's just let her sit in for a moment. Okay. And then we're gonna talk about it at a later time. Okay? Kay. You don't have to do anything right now. They're like, okay, do you need to take a walk? I do. I do. I do commercials.

[K. Michelle]

Here comes one right now.

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[Ronnie Caram]

So Phaedra and Angela and Drew, they're all telling us in their interviews, like, we have no idea what's going on. I don't even like, what? What. What is this? And Phaedra's like, ooh, we need. Is Angela Oakley on the case? Because she seems to research everything, and even when she's wrong, she makes a compelling argument. And Angela's like, this is above my pay grade. So now K and Pinky are on a walk, and Kay's crying, and K.

[K. Michelle]

Michelle's like, it just makes me so fucking mad.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Shamia's like, girl, I am so fucking frustrated. Said, don't worry. Lay it on me. I'm your confidant, okay? Michelle's like, well, I got a whole

[K. Michelle]

eating smile on the full face of, I am not with that. They're so fake.

[Ronnie Caram]

And everyone else back in the house is like, I.

[K. Michelle]

What?

[Ronnie Caram]

What happened last night? What, did we miss something? What's going on?

[Ben Mandelker]

So back outside, she's like, well, something

[Kelly]

they thought they was gonna address with me at dinner. Drew, Portia, and Phaedra and Pinky's like,

[Ben Mandelker]

oh, well, Portia, she was rubbing your knee. And then she was part of the problem this whole time.

[Kelly]

She's like, but that's what they had.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Drew's over there just looking stupid and not Phaedra trying to fan you with her church fan while they're all plotting against you.

[Kelly]

It's like, that's what I'm saying. People are playing with me. And then when I get to, you know, comfort, they're like, oh, well, Kay's crazy. Kay's crazy then.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Kate tells us, I'm heartbroken.

[Kelly]

I watch these women who've dealt with things from gossip try to judge me, who try to judge me. The trauma that was caused by the rumor, it really hadn't gotten better. And I can say I'm healed. I'm healed like a lot of people, but I haven't, and I don't know what. And I will heal okay.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's just so funny because now she's painting them to be like. And look how fake they were. They're plotting against me. And then they would fan me in my face and hold my hand while I cry. Look how fake I'm like, they don't have no idea what you're talking about. They just see that you're crying.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Kay is like, I'm not going to let.

[K. Michelle]

Let y' all keep on playing in my face. And, like, I don't. Like, I don't see. Leave me, babe, because it keeps building up. And when it gets to where it needs to get to, I'm going to curse them all. The.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm like, well, I am looking forward to that, even if this is the root of it is extreme paranoia.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the other girls are in Cynthia's room, and they're like, what is she talking about? So Phaedra says, well, let's check and see if anything's on these Twitter accounts, because we know the girls like to have Twitter fingers. So they all whip out their phones and start looking. Andrew's like, oh, here it is.

[Kelly]

K. Michelle tweeted, if it takes a

[Ben Mandelker]

group plot, rumor, or scheme to bring

[Kelly]

me down when I'm coming in love, you already lost the game and lost in life.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're like, when did she say that? Three hours ago.

[Kelly]

Portia's like, oh, wait, so that's before she came down for breakfast. Well, I've definitely spoken to K. And she never said any of that to me about feeling like somebody was setting her up.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, plotting is such an interesting word choice. You know what I think would be a better word? Commissarial. Portia. Speaking of Twitter, Portia tweeted something that lit up Twitter, which was. Was she. Basically, I think it was. She responded, okay, I don't know if it was this tweet or a recent tweet, but she was like, essentially, like, being. I'll tell you what being a coward is, because I think K. Michelle tweeted something about being a coward. Portia's like, I'll tell you what being a coward is. Being a coward is. Is tweeting from the same house, two door, two. Two doors down, rather than bring it to my face in real time. And everyone's like, oh, Porsche. So the feud is. The feud is feuding at the moment.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, gosh. Well, the other day, I read K. Michelle saying, oh, everybody thinks I got

[Kelly]

problems with these ladies, but I don't. Portia's amazing, and Phaedra's hilarious, And so, I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think everyone but Drew.

[Ronnie Caram]

She mentioned everyone but Drew. She went out. It was like a. It was like a high school yearbook. It's like the thing at the end where you're like, miss you. So many fun times. Oh, my God, Portia, when we went to Carvel that time, I will never forget. And she. Shamia, the joy we've had. It was, like, going out of the way for everyone except for Drew. Drew did not get a mention, which was hilarious.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Porsche is like, well, it feels dangerous because she thinks some of us are plotting, but, like, whoever's telling her that we're plotting, like, what the. Andrea's like, yeah, that is dangerous. And she's like. And she's. I think she's. Whoever is telling her is over there in that group. So we go back outside, and Kay's

[Kelly]

like, I don't see in detail everything that was going on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pinky's like, well. Well, are you going to say something?

[Kelly]

She's like, no, because evil folk just stay evil.

[K. Michelle]

One thing I don't have to learn for is people with no talent or no real business.

[Ronnie Caram]

And, well, I. Now I understand why the Drew situation.

[K. Michelle]

You've been promoting synthetic hair over there on Buford highway that never sold.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's talking about Porsche there, and she goes.

[K. Michelle]

And then you over there is fighting for a home with a whole man in the basement, Drew. And you want to worry about what a man's going to say about if my vagina smells like a herd or like a Glade candle. And they. You remember, this is how you're gonna try to fight with me.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, one can't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's talk about candle. Well, what was it, A sardine or a Glade candle? Those are two very different rumors. One's a compliment. Her vagina smelled like a Glade plugin. Absolutely delicious. It just lit up the whole house.

[Ronnie Caram]

Or a sardine.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, two different things. Like, are we making. Are we making Caesar salad with that thing?

[Ronnie Caram]

But, you know, I. I recently was talking about this Jose Andres cookbook that I. I mentioned on. On Amazon Live. And it's a great cookbook, but in it, Jose Andres, acclaimed Spanish chef, talks about. Talk about tin fish. And he's like, oh, I love tin fish because it's actually my favorite. My favorite snack on an airplane, because you never know what the airplane food is like, so I just bring my own tin fish and just open it up and eat on the airport. He goes, oh, of course. You have to ask your neighbor first. I'm like, and everyone else on the plane, I loved him. Fish. You will never catch me opening up a tin fish container on an airplane. I. I am, like, still rattled by this.

[Ben Mandelker]

So when I'm rattled by it too. How tacky. Don't you ever.

[Ronnie Caram]

Jose. Andre, you're a great chef. You're very talented. Please keep the tin fish for your kitchen.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. Rich people, you still need to have manners, even if you're sitting in first class. Like, I don't want to smell that. So then pink K. Michelle goes, do

[Kelly]

you understand how many vaginas I've had since eight years? I've gotten it tightened, snipped, tucked. This is a married vagina. You don't even know this vagina.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, then why are you getting offended over somebody you used to know? You know what I mean? That's an old vagina. Who cares if they talk about her? She's gone. She's eight vaginas away. You know what I mean? Like, well, focus on Ronnie's vagina.

[Ronnie Caram]

Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie. We were spending too much time talking about K. Michelle's vagina when we should be turning this into a Shamia issue. So here comes Shamia. Well, guess what they're gonna do. They're gonna turn around and say, shamia did it. That very talented singer did it. And you're planning, and you're plotting. Oh, I see your face. Shamia, are you crafting a new musical hit or are you just having attitude right now? And I'm like, yeah, I have the same facials that you guys make. Except mine may be, like, a little distracted, because I was thinking about, do I want to make that an F sharp, or do I want to make it an E? And I don't know. There's a lot going on. Anyway, I have the same facials as you guys are making when you're plotting and planning on some other people. So now Shamia is working herself into a tizzy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but Shamia, like, she doesn't even understand what she. Like, does she hear what she's saying? Because she's like, oh, really? Well, okay, I have a face. Well, I have the same face that you guys make when you're plotting and planning on other people. Okay, so you're saying that you are planning and plotting. Like, do you even hear the argument you're making? Thinking, yeah, like, come on. So then. And of course we're thinking it because you're sitting there. You're sitting there right next to K. Michelle egging this on the whole time. And last night, the thing with Drew, you're sitting there like, oh, yes, she did care. Oh, yes, she did care. I would care if a man, you know, was texting me, you know, when. So she's riling her up. At the very least, I don't think

[Ronnie Caram]

anyone questions having, like, everyone has a face. Every single person on the planet gets a face face when they're annoyed. And that's okay. But it's the context of this face happening. When K. Michelle's like, like, I don't want to say this. And like, oh, Shamia, do you know? It's like, I know it, but I'm not going to say it. And then she gives it. Gives a face. And everyone's like, well, what's up with the face? Like, don't give us the face. And don't you. If you know it, you. If you either you know it and you hold it or, But. Or you say it, but don't know, hold it and then give us the face. Like, I know something that you don't know and I'm not going to tell you. People don't like that. That.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Angela's like, well, she is making a face and she's been making all these faces. And, you know, Porsha, she still has an issue with you and it's unresolved. And Porsche's like, so you think she's the instigator? And she's like, well, I mean, clearly that's who she's confiding to. We can see them confiding, you know. And so Angela's like, well, Kay has an issue with everyone that Shamia has an issue with. So is Shamia putting a battering case back attack? She's definitely capable.

[Ronnie Caram]

Importantly, Angela also says that Shamia is blaming basically Angela, Phaedra, everyone in this group for the demise of the relationship between Portia and Shamia. So she's saying, like, Shamia has a beef with us.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Drew's like, and who said that

[Kelly]

Phaedra eats dead people?

[Ben Mandelker]

Phaedra goes, I hate dead people.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, how strange. I mean, I pick them up and drop them off. I send them to Jesus. Look. Looking usually better than they were before death, but eating them. I've never thought about something so morbid and crazy. Do people Eat dead people. Because that could be a business. She's like, I could do that. Is there a market for this?

[Ronnie Caram]

It is funny because Kay has been saying this, or I think Kay said it. Maybe she hadn't said it. Pink. Pinky's the one who said it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, yeah, Pinky said it because Phaedra supposedly said she eats me. And she's like, oh, yeah, well, will. Phaedra eats dead people.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Phaedra is like, it's just weird. But if we're going to be in a group, you got to bring it to the group. It can't keep, you know, can't keep being. This enemy has to be my enemy. Your enemy has to be my enemy. Because it's looking like Shamia is behind most of this stuff. Am I really considered a cannibal? So now this time to get into glam for the gala. They're going to get in their soap opera dresses and everything, and Pinky is on a call with her team talking

[Kelly]

about vegan, vegan, vegan, vegan.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I want chicken, but not real chicken.

[Kelly]

I want it to be fake chicken,

[Ben Mandelker]

but look just like chicken. Business, business, business, business, business.

[Ronnie Caram]

I had a vegan dinner last night, except I. I made it on vegan because I put some parmesan on it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

But otherwise would have been vegan. Just for those keeping tabs on doesn't count.

[Ben Mandelker]

It can be made like a little bit of murder, but it's still murder. Okay, I'm okay with it.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm okay with murder.

[Ben Mandelker]

Salad.

[Ronnie Caram]

Sorry, sorry. Just vegetarianism. So Pinky's talking to Derek, being like, I can't wait to see you. And everyone's picking out their gowns, and Kelly comes in over to Shamia's room, and Shamia's like, girl, I can't even like the fact that they hate me so much, they want to just make me the target. I'm the fall person for this. It's insane. I'm like, you just announced yourself as the fall person. They just were like, shamia, what's going on? We see your face, you know something? And then it was when you were walking before you said, said. And guess what they're going to do? They're going to turn around and say, it's all my fault. And I hear she's saying, I can't believe they're saying it's my fault.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sh. Work so hard. But, you know, we see you working. It's not. It's not as good as you think.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she's like, she's guy fixing the telephone poles. We see you working. We see it.

[Ben Mandelker]

We don't really know what you're doing or why, but we see you up there, you know, we think, isn't there an easier way to do this?

[Ronnie Caram]

We see you working and we're thinking, could you do this faster? And why are you taking him? Why are you in so much in the way?

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Shamia is in a bikini and she's like, we are having a meeting. I'm going to demand a meeting. This will not go any further.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's very Big Brother. Very Big Brother house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, it really is. So meanwhile, everybody else is getting ready, and they don't want to be late for Cynthia's thing, so they're all trying to rush to get ready. And so Shamia calls this meeting and everybody comes down and they're like, why do we have to be at a meeting with Shamia in her bikini? Like, I cannot focus on anything except Shamia's butt, right?

[Ronnie Caram]

Because her butt is like, it's big. It's given bbl. I don't know if it's confirmed as a bbl, but it's giving bbl. So they're all, like, looking at this bbl. And Shamia's like, okay, well, thank you all for coming out. I won't take too much of your time. But I did want to bring everybody together to get some stuff off my chest. I'm not going to sit around and let people plot, plan, and manipulate me. Like, wasn't that what K. Michelle's issue was? No, it's my issue now because y' all feel like, for whatever reason, if you don't fuck with me, you have the right to make me your fall person. And that's not cool. I know. The other women were like, we don't even know what the original issue is. And now you're the fall person for something we don't even understand what is happening here. Her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, so she says, last night, I came back to the house and I got information. I received it at the same time Kelly did. Kay was very upset, and as a friend, I stuck by and I listened to her. And now my facial expressions are my facial expressions because I see through the. I see the manipulation, and I see how you all scheme and plot, and K, you're gonna have to clear my name. Last night, did I tell you anything about anything?

[Kelly]

It's like, you didn't say anything about

[Ben Mandelker]

anybody, and you came to me, and when I asked you who said it, you said, I can't Tell you you. Right? Okay? So that's her business, and she can say it when she wants. And that's the problem with this group. You go talk behind somebody's back, okay? So they're plotting and planning to pin you for making Michelle think that people are plotting and planning. It's not about you, Shamia.

[Ronnie Caram]

Just like. And that's the problem with this group. Y' all always go and talk some and take some back. But like. Like what I need to know now, who is. Who is the source? Was it a producer? Was it a messy member of the glam squad who, by the way, is at the root of almost all these issues. You know, you all. We all know it's a messy glam squad member. But, like, at this point now you're making. Now you're putting allegations out there and you're saying that there's like a plot. So if there is a plot, we need to. We need to sort of start finding out, like, who is saying these things.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think it's Kelly because Shamia didn't say, now promise, now promise everybody this. It wasn't me or Kelly who said something to you. She didn't say that. She said it wasn't me. Right? So I think that she's. I think it was Kelly that then they were all talking about it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Portia goes, wait a second.

[K. Michelle]

I thought the plot and the planning was uk. Like, you felt like you were getting plotting and planned on.

[Ronnie Caram]

You were. You felt like you were plotting and planned on. She goes, but not Shamia. And so she's like social media.

[K. Michelle]

Like, you still. Wait, Kay. Do you still feel plotted and planned? Who is the one who is the target of the various conspiracies right now? I'm confused.

[Ben Mandelker]

Samiya's like, well, I'm here talking to you because I don't want you guys to make me the fall guy because that's what you guys do. Okay? It's like, what? And I'd also like to add that K is the only one who's talked shit about the other ladies to this degree. They haven't talked about her, her at all. They've said nothing but things about K, Michelle.

[Ronnie Caram]

They like her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Michelle's like, you guys are mean. You're plotting and planning. And meanwhile, she's come on here and she's dissed every one of them down to their core. She's been like, porsche's selling unused. She's selling disgusting hair under a fridge. And this one's got a husband under the. Under the basement. She's Read them all for filth. They've said nothing to her. And she's like, the big victim in all of.

[Ronnie Caram]

Don't forget my friend's words. Words. K. Michelle, friend to no one. So K. Michelle says, well, there were

[K. Michelle]

some things that were going on, and I haven't gotten into full detail with it because I'm just, like, not ready. It's a situation that I feel. It's hurtful towards me. And this person knows exactly the little comments and what they were doing.

[Ronnie Caram]

And we see a flashback again to Portia, like, touching the oysters and such.

[K. Michelle]

They can act as stupid as they want to be. And that is all good, you know what I'm saying?

[Kelly]

Because. Because.

[K. Michelle]

Just know that I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she thinks because Porsche was making the oysters into vaginas that she was talking about K. Michelle's vagina rumor. I mean, that is some. That is some extreme paranoia.

[Kelly]

And when it comes to the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, go ahead, man. I'm sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

I just want to say, like, if there is some component that we are clearly missing, and everyone is like, you guys are such idiots. This is the whole. There's a. There's this subtext or there's that. That, like, I'm gonna say already ahead of time, we will make any corrections, but for right now, this does not make any sense to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, yeah, I mean, we. You know, you can only go off what information you have. So.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then shimmy is so. Oh, gosh. Anyway, I got lost. So she's like, well, when it comes

[Kelly]

to the black situation, what is that about? You go around and tell everybody she knows black.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, I said it one time. I said it in the Sprinter yesterday. And I said it to you because

[Kelly]

when you guys met him on the phone, to me, you seem familiar.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we see the flashback of

[Kelly]

her being like, oh, hello there. It's good to see you.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, and I do know if. I don't know if you all are friends. I just. I just assumed you were. And Shamia's like, well, this conversation didn't just start happening last night, Drew. Okay?

[Ronnie Caram]

And so Cynthia's like, black keeps coming up. K brings it up, happen. I know where this is going to go or why. We just need to put this whole black thing to bed with Drew in the bed with him.

[K. Michelle]

So camera, she's like, you've said it before.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's like, baby, that never happened.

[K. Michelle]

I'm not your baby. That's the only reason. Now, why are you talking about babies? Okay? You're going to make fun of the fact that I auditioned to be. And look who's talking. To be the baby. And I didn't get it. Well, sorry. Go. So I was. I was 14 years old. I could still play a baby. Now you're going to bring that up. You throw that in my face again, Drew, Thanks a lot.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like.

[Kelly]

Because I don't need no Drew running around telling folks that I'm around no man.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're like. She goes, but I never said that.

[Kelly]

She's like, I got enough men running around here saying stuff about me.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she was like, first of all, I never told anybody that, so let's be clear. And she gets up, which I don't know why Drew would do that. Like, you know not to do that. So she got up, and now Pinky stands up, and so now Kay does the same. Like, now Kay's gonna get up, and Pinky's like, no, no, no, no, no. And Drew stands up and starts to go at her, and she's like, let me be clear.

[Kelly]

I never told anybody that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't come at me like that. And she's like, oh, you know what?

[K. Michelle]

You don't know, little lady. You don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're all holding her back because she's like, she's gonna make a run on Drew. Oh, no.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Portia's like, we've been talking about black, and both of these are blacking out. And I don't know if black is really worth all that. I mean, do y' all really like black's hookahs that much?

[Ronnie Caram]

So Drew is all like. She's upset. She's like. She's like, you got me up. And she's like, you know, k. Michelle is like, oh, if you want to

[K. Michelle]

say it up, we can say it up. We can say it.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's a lot.

[K. Michelle]

Oh, my God, baby, I can say it. I can stand.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't even know this girl.

[K. Michelle]

You don't know me, but you're telling people who I do know, who I know. You're saying, who I do know and who I don't know.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Drew is like, I don't know you.

[K. Michelle]

I don't know you. I don't know you care. What?

[Ronnie Caram]

So they're like. They're. They're camera.

[K. Michelle]

This is. This ain't TLC no more.

[Kelly]

My soundtrack ain't tlc, girl. This don't scare me.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, so then Drew is like. She's like, I'll focus on my movie roles, and you focus on your country music, since you want to throw shots,

[K. Michelle]

because, oh, oh, my God, I've done better with you than whether you've ever done and or ever will be. Okay, so.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, well, since you want to be disrespectful to me. And Cynthia's like, the theme for my gala tonight is Dynasty meets Dallas. I just wanted them to look like some of the characters on the show. Show, not act like them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Commissario take you the commissario. Thank you. Andrew's like, you want a moment?

[Kelly]

I'm not going to give it to you. Oh, well, why would I want a moment from you? Don't nobody want to hear about that basement no more.

[Ben Mandelker]

She was like, that's my life.

[Kelly]

That's my real life. Why would I even want to. Why would I want something from you? I don't need a moment with you. You need a moment with yourself with that grown man down there in your basement. We're tired of talking about it. Just like you're tired of fighting for your career milestones and happen that never happen.

[Ronnie Caram]

Damn, that was great. That was hilarious. Oh, man. Savage. So K. Michelle's like. Like, don't.

[K. Michelle]

Don't. Don't attach me to nobody, okay? You know what I'm saying? But the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Okay?

[Ronnie Caram]

Andrew's like, okay, I'm gonna dismiss myself. K. Michelle goes.

[K. Michelle]

Go float away MC Hammer.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she goes inside, and Phaedra's like, when I tell you K. Michelle went back to Memphis and picked up those reads and threw every.

[Kelly]

Had.

[Ben Mandelker]

She threw.

[K. Michelle]

She.

[Ben Mandelker]

She threw the whole kitchen sink. So she's like, living life.

[Kelly]

Peace.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, man.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's just so funny that K. Michelle has been on this show and saying what she's afraid of is going to be this. What the. She's afraid the show is going to be is what she is being on this show. Like, nobody else is being that way except her, and it's cracking. And she's so funny at it. I mean, her whole vagina monologue was really funny. Like, you don't even know this vagina. So now Drew calls black on FaceTime, and she's like, so apparently I'm speaking on K and attaching her to you in some way. And he's like, well, why would she think you're doing that? I mean, why would you want to attach me to her when you barely even want to attach me to you?

[Ronnie Caram]

And. Yeah, and then Black's like, I mean, I've complimented her in her DMs before. I've literally said in verbatim, word for word, I literally said, like, holy. Okay. God damn. It was a nice picture. That's exactly what my DM was. Was. And she was like, yeah, but I didn't know about that dm. Like, I didn't know about that dm. Like, you didn't tell me about that dm. So, see, she was upset about it. So now outside, Pinky is trying to get calm people down and everything.

[K. Michelle]

And Porsche's like, okay, okay, everyone, like, while we're here, I do have one question while we're all in the room. So, okay, when you mentioned it at the table this morning that somebody was plotting, and I said, well, how? In what way? Like, what do you mean? And you were like, like, should be a selling case stuff so that K could be like, maybe feeling some way about me. And like, all those point to me and I'm like, rude or like, whatever. So I'm just like, sitting here like, well, damn.

[Ben Mandelker]

And shimmy is like, you know, feeling like, now they've all had a team meeting and so they're going to come together to say, we're going to put this on. Shamia and Porsche's enemies are now their enemies, and they're all kissing ass and everybody's go naked model now. I mean, but that's what you guys are doing. You're pulling your little team meetings, and then you're having a meeting and you're coming in and getting at everybody else.

[Ronnie Caram]

Else.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Angela's like, well, I said I thought it was Shamia. And Shamia's like, you know what, Portia? You're being so messy right now, and I just can't stand it. She's like, what? And Angela's like, no, I told him that. I said it was you. And so Shami is like, screw me being a good friend. You all want to talk about faces.

[Kelly]

Faces.

[Ben Mandelker]

Last time I checked, I'm a black woman. And our faces say it all.

[Ronnie Caram]

Hello. And so Angela's like, okay, hear me out, Shamir. When it goes back to me that you said drew and I added to the demise of your friendship, I'm like, why are we still talking about this? She was like, because you're still talking about me in rooms that I'm not in, and I would like for you to stop. I'm like, you literally went off with K. Michelle and was like, I bet that Angela's talking about me right now and she's peeing on me. That fucking bitch. I'm. It's like you were talking about Angela?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Angela's like, well, that was this morning, and if it involves me, I'm going to talk about you. And she's like, no, not just this morning, and it doesn't involve you, but it did, and you don't need to continue to insert yourself into my business. And she's like, I'm not. And Angela's like, you brought it up. And he says, when we were at lunch, she was asking about Portia, and I told her to stop. So we see the flashback yesterday of Drew saying, shamia, do you have an issue with Porsche? And so Angela's like, so, wait, do you think I'm trying to hurt you or something? And Shamia's like, you're messy. She goes, but you think I'm trying to hurt you? She goes, yes, you're that messy. That's your nature. Okay?

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, okay, well, you can have that. You can have that. All right, whatever. And Angel's just like, okay, well, I'm right, you know, whatever. Her saying, I destroyed a relationship with Portia, that's crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that. Nobody will fight with Shamia. It's so funny. Shamia's trying to make herself the center of this argument. And they're like, shamia, would you move out of the way? We're trying to ask. We're trying to ask K. Michelle what the hell she's talking about. And every time she does shimmy is like, what are you blaming me for? It's like, we're not talking about you. You, and we're not fighting with you. Okay, Go fight with your dirty pillow in the other room.

[Ronnie Caram]

Shamia's like, keep my name out of your mouth, Angela, please. Like, well, I like you, but stop. Stop bringing up. You think I broke up your friendship. She's like, no, you don't. You don't like me, girl. And that's okay. She's like, well, you think I broke up your friendship. I think you're full of. And I do think that she's messy. And just like. And I think you're messy, too, so that makes both of us. We're just some messy. Is.

[K. Michelle]

Keep my name out of your mouth.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, well, stop saying I broke up your friendship, because I didn't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Guys, I'm for a Cynthia commercial. She's like, oh, this is too much. Honestly, I just want to be on a beach somewhere sipping myself a nice cold margarita with my Tequila commissario.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Angel's like, whatever. Blame me for the demise of your relationship. I don't care. It's just because that one convers, that there's that one conversation that happened last season. And. But, like, if the relationship were in a good place, that conversation would not have destroyed it. So she may have been one of the straws, and maybe the straw that broke the camel's back, but the camel was. No camel was having a hard time.

[Ben Mandelker]

It goes from person to person being like, this is how I feel about Portia, and this is how Porsche is treating me, and this is how I feel about Portia. And then someone goes, how are you with Portia? And she's like, how dare you get in the middle of my relationship? Like, I know you've been talking about it the whole season. So they're, you know, kind of having you are fights. Like, you're scared. No. You're scared. No. You're scared. No. You're scared. So then they go to get ready, and Portia's like, I don't know why everybody keeps disrespecting Cynthia. I mean, she. She got. She's giving us a gala. She brought us here. She flew us all private. Now you're going to turn. You're going to turn her into darkness when she needs to be love and light. Cynthia's like, please go to Glam.

[Ronnie Caram]

We're already late. Because, by the way, a thing that's been going on with us was that they were already before the house meeting. They were already running late for the gala. And then when. When Shamir called the house meeting, they're like, oh, my God, we're already late. Why are we doing this? So, like, okay, come on, we're gonna do this. So then. Then all of a sudden, this guy shows up, the police escort. And it's a big night for sirens showing up in driveways on Bravo, although this one ends in a much happier way than on Rhode island, although less funny as well. So then this. So basically, this guy shows up. He's the jeweler, and so he has a police escort because he has thousands of dollars of jewelry on him. So his name is JC and he was sent to Dallas by guess who. Tequila.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So he's basically there to give them loners of jewelry. So they're trying on all these jewels, and they're hundreds of thousands of dollars. So they all try stuff on. On. And then Drew. Cynthia goes to see Drew, and she's like, I. I want to apologize because

[Kelly]

I feel like I acted out of character.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, oh, the che. The cheat time came out. Okay, the cheat time came out. And she's like, well, but you know, it's like, somebody's got to get up. If. If somebody's. If it looks like somebody's about to get up, you get up first. No, no, no, no, no, no. You get up first, you get smacked down. I think is. Is what we've learned here. How have you not learned that?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, I. As if I am the run and cower in the corner type, so I really can't weigh in.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

So then I'm like, yeah. So Cynthia is. I don't like tension, Ronnie. So Cynthia is.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I don't either. I mean, I put both my hands up like this. I give you two jazz hands. Hands to the side of my face. Like, don't hit me.

[Ronnie Caram]

I will diffuse with humor, everyone. So they're all getting ready and glam. They've tried on their jewelry. They're gonna get into the sprinter van. But. But Drew has a headache, so she's not sure she can be there on time, even though she seems perfectly happy sitting in her chair getting glam done. But she has a headache, guys. She has. She has a headache. So she's. She's still gonna get into glam, which is not. If I have a headache. I'm not trying to get into glam in that moment. I'm trying to take a nap, but it's okay. So she's gonna get glam done, and she's gonna meet everyone there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So now everybody gets on the bus and get going. And K. Michelle is like, well, I'm

[Kelly]

gonna respect Cynthia time. I'm gonna turn the other cheek. Okay. I'm gonna get into it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now the guy calls, and he stops robbing.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, well, this is. This is the guy. This. By the way, there's this guy named J.C. who. I think I may have said that J.C. was a gemologist, but he. J.C. is actually the guy who's, like, a partner in tequila commissario. And he arrived with the gemologist, and he was like, oh, my God. The party's gonna be great. We'll see you over there. It's gonna be wonderful. It's like, can't wait to see you guys later tonight. And then he calls up. He's like,

[Ben Mandelker]

you just hear somebody sobbing in the background. And someone's like, what? Well, we've got bad news. It's raining. And Cynthia's like, is that JC Sobbing? And they're like, yes, yes, yes. He's like, I'm so sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's over. No, it's not your fault.

[Kelly]

It's okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's not Your fault it rained. Like, what are you gonna do?

[Ronnie Caram]

Cynthia's like, I can't. I just can't. I cannot. It was an outdoor event. It was all set up. And the. There's the balloons and the flowers and all the things. And apparently there's a hurricane happening right now. And Jason's like, I'm so sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm so sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm so sorry. The poor guy's like, he was. And we see this, like, footage of people scrambling, taking down the balloons and, like, the. The tequila commissary things. Like, oh, no. And Cynthia's just like, this has been a disaster from the moment we arrived in Texas. And honestly, I'm not even phased anymore.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they finally get there, it stopped raining. Everything's fine. And then we go in and we see the party, and they're like, oh, my God, so dynasty.

[Ronnie Caram]

So sophisticated.

[Ben Mandelker]

And there's a poster that says, there's a Cynthia poster, and it says, shot o'. Clock. Oh, it's got to be trouble.

[Ronnie Caram]

I'm an icon and an influencer.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Mike is there, and he got Porsche a rose dipped in gold. So here we are, back to a rose.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Porsche is like, when I heard

[K. Michelle]

that Mike and I were. Was going. We're going to the gala, he was like, okay, but, you know, you're not gonna go to that by yourself. I'm sorry. When I went micro that I was going to the gal, he's like, you're not going by yourself. So he flew in just to be with me.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes, just to be with you and to be on camera, but mainly to be with you.

[Ben Mandelker]

So K. Michelle is talking to her guy, and I got in a fight

[Kelly]

with Drew is pretty bad. You know, I need to say completely out of everybody, everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we hear Kelly coming in.

[Kelly]

She's like, where are the cheeseburgers?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's me, Kelly.

[Ronnie Caram]

And K. Michelle is like, you know, she's like, I got my eyes open

[K. Michelle]

to everyone in the room. I'm gonna keep it cute because we don't want to show out there. But when we get to Atlanta, we gotta talk.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Cynthia gives a speech. She's like, commissario. Commissario. And as I said to my daughter growing up, commissario. Thank you. So I would like to have a contest where. Where you will clap for the person who's the most. Whatever. And we're going to give them a tiara to wear. Okay, everybody come up. Okay, clap for them. You all win. You all win the tiara. What is this? Why are you making this super sized for this stupid game? Cynthia, Get. Get out of here with this. And we see someone breaks the crown. And we see that it was 1995 with five dollar shipping.

[Ronnie Caram]

Right? Because everything else that they had shown price tags for were like $400,000, $100,000, $200,000. They're like 1995. So, yeah, the crown is broken. And then meanwhile, back at the house, Drew is still getting her hair done. She's still doing glam all this time. And so we're going back and forth. We're going back and forth to the gala. Everyone's partying, having fun. It looks like a really successful time. It looks like a great party. Everything looks wonderful. The women look beautiful. It's. It's fun. And then we just keep on going back and forth. Andrew is driving. It's very much like the Amazing Race. And then now at 9pm, three hours into the gala, Drew is finally walking out of the house to get to the gala, which we saw took a while to get to the gala. And then she basically doesn't arrive until 10:30pm Which I think is so incredibly disrespectful because Cynthia flew you private and put you up and did all these things and gave you a nice room when other people were like upset with their lodging, but she gave you a nice room. Room. And then you show up at 10:30, like three and a half hours late. There's like. And then Drew wants to have credit for. But look, I'm. I made the effort to show up. It's like, no, you, no this. You do not get credit for this if you show up that late. That's disrespectful. That's totally disrespectful.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So rude. And then she comes in while they're all leaving, like they're all about to leave. And then she comes in so they have to stay a little longer so she can get. She goes and gets a drink. Drink. Yeah. She's rude. This is where we need Nene leaks to just not even let her in. You know, like that time that they all went to LA and showed up three hours late and Nene read them for filth in the driveway and wouldn't even let them in.

[Ronnie Caram]

I love that.

[Ben Mandelker]

But we don't have that. So they let her in and she gets some champagne. And then Cynthia talks about what a roller coaster this has been. And the only thing that can help this group is tequila. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And that's pretty much the end of that.

[Ronnie Caram]

That is the end of that wild and crazy trip that ended with hailstorm and madness. Thanks everyone for being here and we will catch you on the next episode of Watch where Crap ins. Bye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bye.

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