#3381 Summer House S10E17 Part One: A Wested Development

Summary

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Watch What Crappens – Episode #3381: Summer House S10E17 Part One: A Wested Development

Release Date: May 27, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode Topic: Summer House Season 10, Episode 17 – Reunion Part 1

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Episode Overview

In this hilarious and incisive reunion-themed episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the explosive first half of the Summer House Season 10 reunion, focusing on the fallout of Amanda and Wes’s relationship reveal and its impact on the cast, especially Sierra and Kyle. They break down the cast dynamics, emotional confrontations, behind-the-scenes details, and the messy, meme-worthy moments that have made this installment one of the most anticipated in the show's history.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Great Feud: Amanda & Wes vs. Sierra

• Big Takeaway: Sierra’s reaction to the Amanda/Wes relationship was much more outspoken and confrontational than expected.
• Ben (07:53): “Amanda, really? Amanda and Wes, really, they really, like, just handled this so incorrectly... Amanda comes on backstage and says, as we will get into, like, ‘I just want to take accountability and clear things up.’ And she…starts—she's so contentious with Sierra. It's like, your tone, Amanda, should be ‘I'm so sorry for hurting you…’ and her tone was instead like, ‘No, no, no, no…you have it wrong…’”
• Ronnie (10:04): “She reverted. She did the…stop speaking and then reverted to tears, which, of course. And I thought that's…a big surprise to me because I thought she was gonna just use the tears the whole time…”

Lindsay and Sierra's Alliance

• Ronnie (11:34 & 12:03): “How great was it…the coming together of Lindsay and Sierra?…For so many years, those two hated each other. And to see them come together like that and tag team Amanda at the end with no...sympathy. I mean, they just went for it…this is girlhood. Like, this is friendship right here.”
• Ben (12:18): “I would actually wager to say that I did not think this was a toxic episode…They were airing things out, but I did not feel like a nasty, toxic, like...hitting below the belt...It was just like, they’re like—‘this is our moment to air everything.’”

Bailey’s “Palate Cleanser” Takedown of Ben (the cast member)

• Ben (13:09): “Can we also not overlook the wonderful contributions mid show...of Bailey just completely taking down Ben [from the cast]? It was so beautiful. It was so quick. It was so succinct. It was just so perfect.”
• Ronnie (13:25): “She was ready for his ass. She was ready, and she was not about to take it from him. And I loved it as well...”

Casting the Villain: Wes & Amanda’s Tone-Deafness

• Ronnie (58:06): “They're saying over and over, ‘timeline, timeline, timeline. We want to set the timeline straight’...because they're lying about their timeline…They're saying you're lying by saying something was going on with us at this day, trying to make us look bad, when nothing was going on this day...We didn't sleep with each other until we had told the Internet first.”
• Ben (59:08): “Amanda's response should’ve been like, ‘yeah, I was at Wes’s house…But there was nothing crazy at that time.’ Instead of ‘no, I called you back,’ sort of questioning Sierra's reality…Trying to suggest that Sierra is being a liar here...If you want to curry favor, just respond honestly.”

Deflection & Creating a New Villain

• Ronnie (60:37): “I think west has hated Sierra for a long time because he feels like she made him look bad…He thinks everything is her fault…All of this making up with Sierra and all of this kissing her ass and everything all season...is because, A, the flirt is the only weapon he has…And he's doing it because he wants America back on his side. I don't think he's really ever liked Sierra.”
• Ben (62:35): “Because it's two idiots trying to pull off some dumb heist…like Tweedledee and Tweedledum…when Sierra's talking about having sleepovers with Wes later…Amanda…is breathing through it because she was with West at that time. And so to hear that Wes was having sleepovers with Sierra during this…Amanda is feeling things, but she can't speak on them because then she would reveal her timeline…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Amanda’s Lack of Accountability

• Ben (07:53): “Your tone, Amanda, should be, ‘I'm so sorry for hurting you. I understand you’re hurt and I apologize.’ … ‘No, you have it wrong!’ …You are not allowed to be on defense. Or on the offense. You're just not even. You shouldn't even be on the field.”

On Lindsay’s ‘Comeback’:

• Ben (22:18): “…Banner night for Lindsay. She was so good on the reunion, and she was so good on ‘In the City’...She just really had such a banner evening…she’s the Bravo star that she is.”

The Infamous Leaked Nudes

• Ronnie (32:13): “And later, he finds out on stage dick pics have been circling around. And let me, you know, I'm not going to shame the man's dick…But I will shame his grooming…if you're gonna take pictures…Groom, you know?”

• Ben (47:26): “And then Amanda goes, ‘Well, that’s weird, because I’ve never gotten any.’ Yeah, real funny, Amanda. Read the room. Amanda, what is wrong with you?”

On Wes’s Semantic Games

• Ben (74:37): “…I feel like he and Amanda are just, like, really hiding behind semantics, but especially he is… ‘No, we weren't, like, together…We were just seeing each other. So, like, therefore all of this is okay.’ People's feelings are still involved. You’re still creating expectations…It's so fucked up.”

On Amanda’s Patterns in Relationships

• Ronnie (77:55): “…People are patterns, right? So Amanda, this is what Amanda knows…her husband she met when she was pretty young...So she’s used to that kind of push and pull…years of, like, ‘will Kyle commit?’…So maybe that’s just what she knows.”

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Timeline & Critical Segments

• [07:53–10:04] — Amanda’s defensiveness and failed accountability
• [11:34–12:18] — Lindsay/Sierra unlikely alliance
• [13:09–13:25] — Bailey confronts Ben (the cast member)
• [22:18–23:16] — Lindsay’s “old Cat Skills star” energy
• [32:10–32:39] — The Wes nude leak, Ronnie’s “mortgage guy” and grooming tips
• [45:18–46:14] — All cast members take their seats, Amanda’s “awkward entrance”
• [56:06–56:54] — Andy recaps the Amanda/Wes bombshell
• [57:39–59:08] — Sierra’s first suspicions; Amanda’s defensive responses
• [66:00–67:39] — Sierra calls out Amanda’s friendship priorities
• [74:37–76:14] — Wes and Amanda duck accountability on “who knew what when”

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Timestamps for Notable Exchanges

• [07:53] Ben: “Your tone, Amanda, should be ‘I’m so sorry for hurting you…’”
• [11:34] Ronnie: “How great was it…the coming together of Lindsay and Sierra?”
• [13:09] Ben: “Bailey just completely taking down Ben [cast]…”
• [22:18] Ben: “Banner night for Lindsay. She was so good on the reunion…”
• [32:13] Ronnie: “Later, he finds out on stage dick pics are circling around…”
• [47:26] Ben: “Amanda goes, ‘That’s weird, I’ve never gotten any…’”
• [60:37] Ronnie: “I think west has hated Sierra for a long time…”
• [74:37] Ben: “I feel like he and Amanda are hiding behind semantics…”

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Additional Highlights

• Meta Moments: Ben and Ronnie reflect on how the Summer House audience—and their own live recapping routines—have evolved alongside the show’s volcanic rise in popularity ([03:33]).
• Cast Dynamics: The duo revel in the irony of Carl making everything about himself, and Kyle finding himself out of the doghouse by virtue of Amanda and Wes’s drama ([21:07], [50:43]).
• Reunion Aesthetics: Lindsay’s “Ariana’s revenge dress” and drag-level makeup receive loving mockery ([43:40]).

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Tone & Language

The hosts maintain their signature blend of loving mockery, Bravo-insider savvy, and campy, meme-filled pop culture humor. As always, their commentary weaves between sincere insight and playful exaggeration, frequently channeling the speech, absurdity, and melodrama of the cast itself. The banter never feels mean-spirited—there’s a deep affection for even the wildest Bravo shenanigans.

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Conclusion / Episode Wrap-Up

While the episode ends on a cliffhanger (“we’re just gonna end part one right here, and…pick up again with part two here on the first feed”), the hosts promise even deeper dives and messier confrontations ahead. Their in-depth, side-splitting recap promises—and delivers—everything fans want from a classic Crappens reunion breakdown: razor-sharp reads, astutely observed cast dynamics, and pure Bravo-chaos delight.

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Stay tuned for Part Two and further recaps over at Watch What Crappens!

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Transcript

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Who cares what happens? There's so much that happens.

[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on your bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hello, Ben.

[Ben]

Hi. I'm at your house.

[Ronnie]

I know. I miss it. Hello, house.

[Ben]

The voice is coming from inside your house. Thank you so much to Spectrum for having a massive outage this morning right in the middle of. While I was actually having a tirade to Ronnie about, like, I don't even know what I was ranting about. It was something really insignificant. It was like how, like I couldn't get margins to work on Canva. I think it was actually literally.

[Ronnie]

It was literally margins on Canva. Yeah.

[Ben]

I was like, I don't. They don't allow. They don't have support for tabs. And so then Spectrum said, you know what? Let's just shut down this banter. Spectrum says, I know they have a very important episode to record, but this is. We cannot be using our Internet resources for this man to be complaining about his tabs on Canva. So just shut me down. And I had to hop in the car and come up to your place over here.

[Ronnie]

Well, you know, last night, I was watching Summer House on YouTube TV, because when we have to watch it live, I have to watch it on YouTube TV. And so YouTube TV had some kind of outage. The screen just went black, and my TV turned itself off twice during Summer House. And I was, what the hell is going on? And it was both. Both times were during Ben's speaking, and I was like, man, this. Even my TV hates this guy. So at least I felt like me and my TV were on the same page. But I don't know, there's some something about Summer House where the world is trying to stop us right now. But guess what?

[Ben]

We're not gonna stop. We waited 10 years for this moment, okay? We started pouring our souls into the show 10 years ago, and now here we are. Summer House is in peak zeitgeist. And there was a time when no one cared about this show, when people would ridicule us for even recapping it. When we would recap the show live, people would say, why are you even touching this show? Why are you not giving us a House live show? And now look at Summer House. It has made it. It has ARR.

[Ronnie]

The.

[Ben]

As the bell of the ball and.

[Ronnie]

Can you still hear me? Can you hear me now?

[Ben]

Don't spectrum my tirade. So sorry.

[Ronnie]

So sorry.

[Ben]

Go ahead. Though I didn't really know how to land that plan, so it was actually really helpful that you just helped me crash.

[Ronnie]

That was such a dick move. I really thought you weren't going to be able to hear me. I'm so sorry.

[Ben]

No, it's fine. I do want to say, by the way, on the topic of Summer House, that last night, we had a whole bunch of fun quipping live. Quipping on our Patreon. Patreon has a. Has a social media feed, and we were on there quipping live, and that was really cool. So for those who joined along with us, thank you for joining. And for those who want to join along with us, I'm sure we'll be doing it again at some point. So, you know, keep an eye. I mean, we do those quickly.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it was fun. And I, you know, we did it kind of in shifts. I did the early show and you did the late show. And, you know, I've been writing the recap, the blog things every week for the newsletter. And so I've been getting back into my TV recapper mode anyway. But, man, I'm not really good with like a Twitter kind of thing where you're supposed to make them. Sure. I wrote them so long I was writing like full paragraphs and sending them.

[Ben]

But they were great because I went back and read yours after mine to see how, like, our vibes were different. And I was like, first of all, like, yours are so funny. And I was like, mine were so lame and really good reading them right

[Ronnie]

along with you pressing the like button. Well, I had to stop pressing the like button because then it would say, watch what happens. Like, watch what happens. And then that would have looked like you were masturbating. So I had to undo some.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, it was fun times. But yeah, it was fun. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And what else is going to be fun is we are going to New York in two days to do sue, to do our cabaret show called Forbidden Housewives. And it is the show where we play all the housewives in musical form. Okay. You know, we're theater kids. We're musical theater kids. And so this is going to be us doing our musical theater thing. I'm so nervous and terrified and excited. So go see it. It's sold out, so you can't come. But if you didn't get tickets, that's okay. You can still live stream it. You can get live stream tickets at. Watch what crappens.com that's for June 3 at 7pm Eastern, June 5 at 7pm and 9:30pm Eastern. All three of those shows will be streaming. You can buy tickets up until showt, but you cannot get. You cannot get them after showtime, but you can stream it for a week if you can't make it at that time. So that's that. And also some Summer House people might be in it as well. Not real ones, not real us as Summer house people, even though it's called Housewives. We don't care.

[Ben]

Also, later today we are going to be doing an Amazon live and we're going to be talking about travel essentials or travel non essentials, but things you might want for travel. So definitely join us for that.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so here we are. Today is Summer House Season 10, Episode 17, Reunion Part 1. I did not listen to all of the leaked audio that came out. I listened to a Piece of it. But I'm someone who really doesn't like to be spoiled. Even though I know I'm the biggest spoiler on the planet, I do not like to be spoiled. So I didn't listen to that much. I was saving it. I didn't know all of that much it was going to happen. I was shocked. But two things a, that Sierra came out like that. I mean, Sierra just came right. Because here is a pretty low key energy on the show. You know what I mean? And so I thought Sierra would be more like, this really hurt me, you know, kind of a quiet. Like a quiet pain, you know, that's what I thought. No, that was not a quiet pain. And God bless her for it. She did a great job. She killed it. I was shocked that Amanda came out swinging. I was like, yeah.

[Ben]

Oh, you're upset. Amanda, really? Amanda and Wes, really, they really, like, just handled this so incorrectly. First of all, with Sierra, I feel like Sierra's actually become more and more outspoken over the years as she has come into her own, as she's become a larger and larger celebrity. I think maybe you've gotten. She's gotten used to being in the public eye and on tv. When she first arrived, she was very, very quiet. But, you know, at this point, she's gone through traitors. She's gone the whole thing. And so she really has just sort of become a bigger and bigger personality. And it was almost like this was here. This was the moment. This was her matrix moment. She stepped on that stage and all she saw was green code coming down, you know, and she was dodging in bullet time. She wasn't even dodging because nothing was being thrown coming down.

[Ronnie]

That took me a second.

[Ben]

The matrix. The mantrix.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

But I agree. When I was shocked that what. But was I shocked Amanda coming onto the show, I would. I would also say Wes, but Wes barely said a word. Of course. But Amanda comes on backstage and says, as you. As we will get into, like, I just want to take accountability and clear things up. And she is starts. She's so contentious with Sierra. It's like your tone, Amanda should be, I'm so sorry for hurting you. I understand you're hurt and I apologize. And her tone was instead like, no, no, no, no, no, you have it wrong. That wasn't true. No, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. No, you're wrong. Why would you say that? What. What are you saying about me? It's like, ma', am, you are not allowed to be on the Defense or on the offense. You're just not even. You shouldn't even be on the field.

[Ronnie]

Don't even be on the fence. Yeah, just sit there.

[Ben]

She did not take her lumps. She did not take her lumps at all. And she established a terrible tone to start the reunion. And I, like, I. Do they not have some sort of, like, crisis team to help them out? I mean, or just someone on the Internet? Isn't there, like, some Amanda and West apologist who could help them out with this situation? It was just like. She just. It was shocking. I mean, at a certain point, she just stopped speaking, which was the smartest thing, but, yeah, she was. She was.

[Ronnie]

Well, she reverted. She did the. Stop speaking and then reverted to tears, which, of course. And I thought that's. That was a big surprise to me because I thought she was gonna just use the tears the whole time and be like, I'm just poor Amanda. You know, I didn't even know. I just, like, I fell in love and, you know, I was in this horrible marriage. And then I, you know, I saw love. I thought she was gonna go that route, and she instead came out kind of on the defense. Well, on the offense. Defense, anyway. It was. It was. I was surprised. I'll tell you what I was not surprised by at all was with West. Yeah, West. West was exactly what I thought he would be, so that wasn't surprising. But overall, good show. Lots of, like, you know, of course, the only time Kyle stood up for Amanda. You know, we've heard that Kyle stands up for Amanda. And the only time he was like, well, Sierra, that's a bit harsh. Was when it was insinuating that Amanda has stayed in a shitty relationship this whole time and she's a weak ass. So Kyle took that, like, how dare you insinuate the thing. So then he got defensive about it, which was hilarious.

[Ben]

Well, I mean, also, like, Lindsay and Sierra tag teaming Amanda at the end in those fast. Those last few minutes was like, it was so brutal in the best way. It's not a. It's brutal. Parentheses, complimentary. It was so good. I was like, I don't. Honestly, I don't know how anyone could not cry after that because they just. They just.

[Ronnie]

I would have been crying. And how great was it? You know, just on a positive note, because this is a reunion, and it's a reunion after an extremely crazy thing happened, and it was a pretty toxic reunion. But just by nature, reunions are toxic. So I think it's important to point out positive things sometimes. And in this one, it was the coming together of Lindsay and Sierra.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Thought it was beautiful.

[Ben]

For so many years, they were.

[Ronnie]

Those two. Hated each other. Hated each other. And to see them come together like that and tag team Amanda at the end with no. No sympathy. I mean, they just went for it. And I was like, you know what? This is girlhood. Like, this is friendship right here.

[Ben]

Well, you know what? Vanilla pudding tore them apart, and vanilla pudding brought them back together. Austin, they fought over Austin. They come together over west, and I think that it's really good. I believe it or not, I would actually wager to say that I did not think this was a toxic episode. I thought they were airing things out, but I did not feel like a nasty, toxic, like. Like hitting below the belt, pulling out. It was just like, they're like.

[Ronnie]

I don't think it was.

[Ben]

That actually felt like, really like. Like what I truly want a reunion to be about, which is clarifying timelines, discussing, like, timelines, bringing in evidence, venting feelings. I really love that. And can we also not overlook the wonderful contributions mid show? Like, a beautiful intermission, A beautiful little palate cleanser of Bailey just completely taking down Ben. It was so beautiful. It was so quick. It was so succinct. It was just so perfect. And she did a great job. And I was sitting there cheering. That was a wonderful, wonderful moment.

[Ronnie]

Oh, she was ready for his ass. She was ready, and she was not about to take it from him. And I loved it as well. And Sabrina, of course, put out a tweet or a text or whatever today, whatever these kids are using these days. And it was like, well, if someone who really knows Ben better than everyone else hearts. Everybody hearts. This is television. Sabrina, by the way, as someone who knows him really well, he treats his mom really well, and he treats me really well. Okay? So, okay, Sabrina, we all have the same television show on that we're watching. I'm glad that Ben treats you well, and I'm glad that Ben treats his mother like that. He needs food. Learn to speak with women in a. In a less condescending asshole ish way if you don't want people to talk about it.

[Ben]

Okay, listen. Did you not even hear any of Fart Garfunkel's stupid backstory? He was raised with, like, a domineering dad who didn't show him any sort of love, and then we're supposed to act like this is a man who's gonna treat women nicely? Of course not. Is he. He's totally damaged by his dad, and he's going to act out that damage on women. It's like, very clear to me. So let's, like, not try to act like this is some guy who's actually wonderful towards women. We've seen him talk down to women all season long. You know, I appreciate you standing up for your man, Sabrina bell, but it's a losing cause. We've all. We've all seen it.

[Ronnie]

And something else we're not going to let just pass us by is the fact that you just called him fart garfunkel.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, I did, because. I did, because that's fun.

[Ronnie]

Okay, let's get on with this because we've got our work cut out for us today. We've got 45 pages here to get through.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God, you're right.

[Ronnie]

The reunion. So here we go. It's March 31, 2026. Lindsay is on her couch doing some confessional work for in the city. And she's like. And then we get a blink, blink, blink, blink. And she's Teresa Judice. Teresa, love, you heard this, but something's going on on the Internet.

[Ben]

So she's just getting ready to do a confessional for in the city, which will be. We'll be recapping the latest episode after this. It'll come out a little bit later today. And then all of a sudden, Kyle. Kyle walks in. He's like, hey, Lindsay.

[Andy Cohen]

He's like, oh, my God. Are you okay? What are you doing here?

[Ben]

He's like, I think you should check your phone. And so, Lindsay, it's like, oh, my God.

[Andy Cohen]

Jesus Christ.

[Ben]

So she opens up her phone, and she's looking at it, and he's like, so what do you think? Are you just starting your interview?

[Andy Cohen]

She's like, no.

[Ben]

So she's reading it, and she's like, oh, my God.

[Andy Cohen]

For the love of God.

[Ben]

And then the statement, the famous statement that rocked all of our worlds appears on screen.

[Ronnie]

And Kyle says, oh, I haven't read it yet. You want to read it to me? You haven't read it? What do you mean you haven't read it yet? Who doesn't read it first? Kyle? I love the girls. Like, this is hard. She read it to me.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay, we've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we want to provide some clarity.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They're drinking a different kind of seltzer. I knew it. It's worse than I could imagine.

[Ronnie]

No, his clarity. He's like, clarity that clarity.

[Ben]

Alcohol soda.

[Ronnie]

She's like, well, we've shown up for each other as friends over the years. I'm just gonna read this not in Lindsay's voice because I'll make myself crazy. We've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all of the highs and lows. And what's developed recently was the last thing either Ken or I expected. Our connection grew out of genuine, long standing friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with and goat cheese balls half off at happy hour.

[Andy Cohen]

Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Oh my God, my phone's ringing. Hello?

[Ben]

Hey, it's Jesse, bro. What's going on? This is fucking nuts. I mean, I just signed a record deal.

[Andy Cohen]

What? Did you even see the statement?

[Ben]

What? What statement? Hold on. Oh my God. This is nuts too. Geez.

[Andy Cohen]

Wow.

[Ben]

It's the first time I'm hearing that it's actually confirmed crazy. I see.

[Ronnie]

There is a statement, but I really

[Ben]

don't want to read it.

[Ronnie]

Would you read it to me? Oh, Jesus, here we go again. To whom it may concern.

[Andy Cohen]

Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Oh, sorry, my other line's going off. It's Mia. One second. Oh, my God, Mia. I didn't even know you had my number. Do you even know who I am?

[Ronnie]

Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Oh, my God, Stephen. What are you even doing calling me? You were fired from this show years ago. He's like, I cannot believe this. I'm sitting on the balcony of the summer house and I am pissed. The balcony of judgment.

[Andy Cohen]

Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Oh, my God, who is this?

[Ben]

Carl.

[Andy Cohen]

Carl. Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl,

[Ronnie]

Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl. Oh my God, it's the twins. Ring, ring, ring, ring.

[Andy Cohen]

Well, you're you.

[Ronnie]

That's something. Oh, God, Sharon, I'm not doing this with you.

[Andy Cohen]

Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Hold on, someone else on the line.

[Ben]

Ratchet. This is Ratchet.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, my God, it's Hannah Burner. I can't believe she even called in. This is crazy.

[Ronnie]

So everybody's on the phone together talking about this. This tragedy that has just befallen us. And Carl calls, of course. He's like, oh, God, guys, I just landed in la. I'm just reading everything. How are you doing? How are you doing? Kyle? Kyle, how are you doing? He's like, nothing can really prepare you for this.

[Ben]

Jeez.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, my stomach is sick.

[Ben]

Oh, God, I can't believe that. My stomach is just turning. I'm like, that's probably because you've only eaten granola in the past 45 days training for whatever marathon you've been doing.

[Ronnie]

So you've only got protein shake in you, Carl.

[Ben]

Okay, I mean, I actually love this because you have Jesse and. And Mia, who are, like, conferenced onto Lindsay's phone, and then you've got Carl on Kyle's phone, and then Lindsay and Kyle holding. So, like, all of them are sort of together in this high tech, like, powwow. It's like, oh, we're all here. Are we all here? Is everyone knows? Are we missing anyone?

[Andy Cohen]

They're like, no, no, this is crazy.

[Ben]

And they're like, yeah, this is crazy. And Jesse's like, yeah. I mean, like, you don't. Your friend's wife of 10 years. Am I right, guys? I was like, you sort of see his face? Like, yeah, you don't have to say that. You don't have to rub that part in, bro.

[Ronnie]

Mia's like, yeah, and they're still together too.

[Ben]

Oh, well, have you guys talked to Sierra at all?

[Ronnie]

And they're like, yeah, she's hurting. She's hurting. And Mia's in California, but she wants to fly back to be with Sierra because she's really worried about her. And so,

[Ben]

yeah, that's a good friend. She's gonna hop on a plane to fly back to be with Sierra.

[Ronnie]

That's good, Carl. If I had. If I had to hop on a plane every time some. Some man cheated on one of my girlfriends, I would have diamond status on every airline.

[Ben]

So Carl's like, oh, can someone go check on Sierra? Like, someone Jack. I mean, it's like, don't worry. We're texting her. Carl. We're texting her. He's like, oh, our entire friend group of. Our entire group of friends. Like, the lies and the seats over, like, how we're long. It's just, like, disgusting. I'm just like. I'm like, carl, settle down. He's like, he really is. Now I get it. Carl is a mess. He's like, oh, I just can't even believe this. Look, they got rid of the Cinnabon in Terminal 3. Like, now it's a Panda express. Like, what do I even do with that?

[Ronnie]

Of course, out of everybody in the cast who this affects, it affects Carl the most, which is just so on brand for Carl, you know, the whole reunion. He's like, well, wait a minute. As Carl, I would like to say Carl, can we just. Can we replay the past 10 years of Carl, please? Minus the past two, where everything has been erased suddenly in everybody's mind. Like, you're Carl. Okay, calm down over there.

[Ben]

Well, this really affects my veneers, and it's just really bothering me right now. So I loved. At some point in the middle of it, like, in the middle of this,

[Andy Cohen]

Lindsay goes neon of this makes sense.

[Ben]

I just love the way she said none.

[Andy Cohen]

None of it. None of it makes sense at all.

[Ben]

I was like, wow. She's like, in. In the heat of a scandal. She's adding extra. Yeah. Sounds to her words.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

She's actually doing that a lot on the City, which is cracking me up, because I just watched the City, and I was like, why is she. Was she talking like that? Like, she's just pronouncing really weird certain words really oddly. She'll be like, yeah. And then I went out to this, and there was this guy there, and then he had that nerve to say to me, and I was just gonna get a dub. What is this?

[Ben]

It's like the signal went screwy for a second. It was like the screen. By the way, banner night for Lindsay. She was so good on the reunion, and she was so good on in the City. The way she. The way she dressed down. Kenny, I loved it. I can't wait to talk about that show. She's just.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it was great.

[Ben]

Lindsay's. You know, for someone who had to spend half the season sort of on the sidelines back in the city, like, she just really had such a banner evening. Like, it's. This is the reason why Lindsay is. Is the Lindsay that she is. Like, she's the Bravo star that she is. She was just so.

[Ronnie]

And she really is treating it like kind of an old cat skills star. It's like Debbie Reynolds showing up to do her show. It's like, hey, it's me, Debbie Reynolds. All right, what do you want me to do? Call that could happen? You know, she's like, pulling out all of her best things. It's like, here's Lindsay in the city. She's like, oh, really want to be the me. I'm a mom. You know what Mom's love? Wine. She's like a character of herself, and I'm loving it. Like, she's really feeling herself. I need Lindsay with, like, a feather boa sitting on top of a piano.

[Ben]

Yeah. Also, if there's anything we learned from this night is that if the first thing Lindsay says to you is a compliment, just get ready. She's going to destroy you.

[Andy Cohen]

Like, you like that better than yellow or. First of all, great, Barney.

[Ben]

It's like, okay, you've received your One, you've received the. The bottom piece of bread in your open ended compliments. Which. Your compliment, tartine, because there is no other compliment coming to sandwich the insults.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's pretty good. So Carl's like, oh my God, someone go check on Sierra. And he was like, we're texting, don't worry. And Carl's just disgusted by this whole thing. And Lindsay's asking when this started. Well, Amanda tried to play it off last night. Like it's only been happening for a month, which we know is a lot. When were the. When were the I Heart Awards? Woomba. South by Southwest. That was. Remember what weekend that was?

[Ben]

That was in March.

[Ronnie]

That was March.

[Ben]

So did we talk to Kyle about this? I don't remember. We talked. We were hanging out with Kyle actually quite a bit that weekend. But I don't think we actually broached this with Kyle.

[Ronnie]

It was weird and honest. It's like, hey, you think your wife's cheating on you? Want another drink? This fun. Had your DJ set going. I just heard Amanda was blowing West. But anyway, that weekend, one of our friends that we were hanging out with was like, you guys have heard this west and Amanda stuff, right? And we were like, yeah, of course. But I think it's, you know, I was saying, I think that's stupid. I mean, they're probably just hanging out and you know, rival fans are so dramatic. Like as a group, all of us were very dramatic. And people were probably some hugging and were, you know, I didn't believe it. And she was like, oh, no, it's. It's real. She's like, it's been at least a couple of months. Trust me, it's real.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

We were like, oh, okay. Still didn't believe it. Didn't say it on the show. And then it turned out to be real. I just feel so stupid. So I'm just trying to work a timeline back, but I think it was going on. Obviously. I've said this a million times. I think it was going on in the summer. There's just such obvious signs.

[Ben]

I've been vacillating because, you know, for. For a while I was like, okay, well, the emotional affair started in the summer, but the first anything physical probably started in the fall. But then that moment, I mean, when Wes put that chair behind Amanda, that is like, this is my woman kind of vibe. And then Kyle says, right here, which I did not realize, he goes, I mean, there are blinds going back to June 2025. And Carl's like, oh, that's insane. Like, all this time we had just like sunshine pouring right into the window. No, Carl, it's not that kind of blind. That's the thing. It's thing in an article. I did not realize they're blind.

[Ronnie]

You know what's really disgusting about this? That this relationship is not based on Roman shades, which are.

[Ben]

I mean, all this time we had curtains and, like, we could have had lines. Who knew? Carl, get a hold of yourself. I can't. It's too much. There's a line of Starbucks that's so big, it's like a wall trying to get through it. This airport is too much for me to go through right now.

[Ronnie]

Oh, by the way, could you tell me what blind people told you this? So I don't want to just start going up and asking random people,

[Ben]

how do they know? Carl, Carl, get a hold of yourself. I can't help it. I can't help it. I'm in a Hudson News and I don't know if I want to have a king size Twix or king size stickers. Why don't they have regular sizes in your.

[Ronnie]

Carl, Carl, this is disgusting. This behavior is disgusting.

[Ben]

Oh, look, it's a book about Meghan Markle. Okay, he's. Calm down now.

[Ronnie]

I love her Netflix show. I. I once saw her make a napkin out of a straw cover because

[Ben]

I don't know anything about this book. Strangers looks great.

[Ronnie]

Okay? So they're trying to figure out when it started, and nobody can figure it out. And Kyle's like, I don't know. I don't know if Amanda west could ever recover from this one. And it's April 23rd now, 2026, and everyone's arriving at the reunion. And, you know, just. It's regular. Everybody's arriving. Of course Amanda gets out. And I'm like, oh, my God, what's Amanda thinking? What's Amanda doing? She's like, I was almost going to

[Ben]

get mad at her because when they showed everyone getting out of their cars and they would like, thank the driver, everyone. Everyone steps out.

[Andy Cohen]

Thank you.

[Ben]

Thanks. Hey, thanks, bro. And Amanda got out of the car and, like, didn't thank the driver. And I was like, that's.

[Andy Cohen]

But then she was like, thank you.

[Ben]

But she did it.

[Ronnie]

I was like, you're like, damn, I can't get around that one.

[Ben]

Ah, you got away with this one, Amanda.

[Ronnie]

You got this one by me, young lady. But you were polite watching.

[Ben]

You had delayed politeness. So most of them are sort of like in the same makeup room. Like, all the guys are in the makeup room. And west and Amanda have their own little room. And Carl's call. I've been on this for, like 10 years from the beginning. And what's been going on this last month and a half and two months is unlike anything we've ever experienced. The last two weeks, even the baseball game. Oh, my God, could you even believe the baseball game? And they show footage of the two of them, you know, canoodling at that baseball game that we all saw. And then KJ is like, yeah, on the same day that Sierra's cover came out. Oh, it's embarrassing itself. Oh, man, I'm mad again. It's like I just got off that southwest flight all over again.

[Ronnie]

I'm activating yeah. And KJ is like, I was supposed to go to that game with West. Oh, my God, you could have been the one to make out with west at that game.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ben]

Wait a second. Did Wes do something that upset you in the past two months?

[Ronnie]

He's like, yeah, because we're not friends anymore. That's why. And it's really sad. I considered him a brother. So west comes. Amanda's sitting there on the couch. It's me. Hey, it's my. It's my dressy roomsies. So what's up?

[Ben]

And the man, they're like. He's like, well, I'm not normally, like, here. I'm normally like, with the boys. So what's up?

[Andy Cohen]

Nothing.

[Ben]

I just don't know if I can breathe because, like, I'm anxious or because my corset's so tight. Probably both. Like, I don't know. Like, okay, you two have sparkling banter. Then back in. Amanda's asking if he's feeling okay. He's like, I'm actually like. I feel like Zen. I'm like, of course he feels then, because you were, like, the center of attention for this entire scandal. And as much as he's putting on this, like, oh, I'm so. I feel so bad. He's probably loving the fact that how much this is elevating his profile.

[Ronnie]

West is loving this. West is loving this. I don't. Everything I see of Wes looks like he's loving this. He has that podcast with that. That lady. I don't know her or their podcast. I just see little clips of it floating around. And, you know, she basically agrees with everything he says and stuff. And he's just like, in. Every. Every time I see a clip from it, he's acting like he's being interviewed for the Pulitzer. You know, he's like, well, here's how this happened. He was. Here was my. Who was my motivation behind this choice. Like, he's loving this. And later, he finds out on stage. Dick pics have been circling around. And let me. You know, I'm not going to shame the man's dick. I mean, that's not very nice. I will say it's really not as bad as small.

[Ben]

Ronnie, don't be. We. We. We are not small like that, you know?

[Ronnie]

No, but everybody was. Everybody has been shaming it. And my mortgage guy sent it to me today, so I finally saw it. I haven't really seen it yet. I will Say, you know, nothing wrong with the penis, actually. I mean, it's a dick. You know, it's not like, ready to go or anything, but I'm not going to shame his penis. I will shame his grooming. His grooming, though. Groom. You know what I mean? Like, if you're going to take pictures, we all know that hackers are out there. Groom, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all.

[Ben]

It's just a little advice. A little advice. Take small comforts and things, you know. You know, reminded me of the Brett Favre scandal a few years ago.

[Ronnie]

So he's got a dick pic, too. Oh, I'm going to write my mortgage guy and send if he'll see if he'll send me Brett Favre's day. Yeah, he's got him, the mortgage guy. He's going to get you a good rate and it's going to get you some mediocre dick in your inbox to say so.

[Ben]

Anyway, Bailey is. Bailey and Lindsay are talking. Bailey's just happy that Sierra.

[Ronnie]

I'm sorry, I have a very important announcement to make. I just got a text from my mother that says, W. Okay, carry on. The fuck?

[Ben]

Well, let me win. You win. You got the. Wow. Or she's saying, this is an urgent message about George W. Bush.

[Andy Cohen]

So.

[Ronnie]

Aren't they all?

[Ben]

I know. So Andy's now in. Now Sierra arrives, and Sierra actually arrives through, like, the garage. So she gets, like, the superstar arrival where everyone else has to be a pedestrian on the street with the other pedestrians. So Sierra's in her dressing room, and then we see Andy, who's, like, ungroomed. He. Because, you know, for these reunions, he always goes, like, a little disheveled or whatever. So he's really disheveled.

[Ronnie]

He's like.

[Ben]

And he's like. Like, he just rolled out of bed. He's like, well, Andy.

[Ronnie]

Oh, Andy, let's give him some tea, please.

[Ben]

This wasn't.

[Ronnie]

This wasn't great for Andy, God bless his heart. I mean, they just pancake that makeup straight out of bed. It's like, you know when you put on too much pancake makeup and then you crease too soon and it's like kind of crinkling up. You know, the makeup is, like, crinkling up, and he did not look good. And then he's talking to Sierra, who's a. Who was just on the COVID of Glamour magazine. I mean, she's. She's just stunning and gorgeous and made up. And Andy's like, all you're missing is a paper Sack full of wine, you know? Poor guy.

[Ben]

Poor guy. She's like, well, I've had better days. Like, yeah, how you feeling? She's like. And so she's like, you know, she's like, sad, obviously. And now in the other room, Wes and Amanda are just, like, on. Are just sitting there in. On the sofa. Andy comes in. It's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He doesn't come in. He's still talking to Sierra. And he's like, so who do you

[Andy Cohen]

feel more betrayed by, your left boob or your right boob?

[Ben]

She's like, actually, Amanda. And, like, I mean, I'm just, like, shocked by Wes, but, like, hurt by Amanda.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay. Is there a question that you really like? One thing that's like, most kind of glaring to you that you just, like, want to know. Like, do you want to ask how big are Amanda's boobs? Because I'll ask that for you. And if I. And if I ask it on your behalf, it's not problematic.

[Ben]

She's like, no, I just want to know why they did this.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, okay.

[Ronnie]

This a short question. I mean, you can ask a longer question if you want to.

[Ben]

Got it.

[Ronnie]

The floor is yours. There's three reunions. That's just one word. Make it longer. We're going to need someone help Sierra ask a longer question.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Come on. We'll make this work.

[Ben]

Hey, guys, I got some coolado news for you. There's a pick of west dick going around right now. You guys seen it? Oh, yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah, me too. I mean, how many dick pigs do you need to send out for them to get back to me? It's like, not a good dick pic, man. Whoa, whoa.

[Ronnie]

Who does a dick pick?

[Ben]

Flaccid.

[Ronnie]

Like, why would you do that? That's really a tough one. Really tough, guys.

[Ben]

Flaccarito, right, guys?

[Ronnie]

Someone has been out on lake flaccid today, and that boat is sinking, guys.

[Ben]

That's right, guys. So now Andy has to go into Wes and Amanda's room and, like, his vibe around Sierra was like, wow, Sierra, you are such a star. And then his vibe with Wes and Amanda is, like, just barely tolerating them. He. He has this, like, energy between the two of them. The two of them are sitting there on the sofa all, like, huddled up. You know, they have that body language where, like, their shoulders are. Are hunched up and forward. They're just like little armadillos. And they're like kids. Like, hi, Mr. Randy, your mantis, like,

[Andy Cohen]

so how you guys doing?

[Ben]

Good.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay.

[Ben]

I'm like, this reminds me of running into the teacher. Into, like, your teacher at, like, a restaurant or something. And like, oh, hey, how's it going? You're like, hi, Mr. Johnson. It's like that weird. Like, do I talk? Am I bantering with you? But you're my teacher. What do I do?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And he says, how do you think this is gonna go? And Wes is like, well, I mean, there's nothing really, like, new that can be told today. I mean, I guess, like, it's already been. I mean, it's already out there on the Internet and stuff. So I guess, you know, we don't even know what we're doing here, really. We get lunch, right?

[Ben]

Yeah. So he's like. Yeah. I'm just gotta say, like, he's like.

[Andy Cohen]

You guys are, like, pretty calm, by the way. Sorry, Ronnie. I think I just skipped over a whole giant section. But I think it's probably okay if we just keep going because all he was.

[Ben]

Was just checking in with Sierra some more. So, yeah, he's like. He's seeing how they're all doing, and then they're just, like, not really saying much, right? They're just like, yeah, we're okay. We're okay.

[Andy Cohen]

And he's like, okay. Well, I guess don't really know what to say. What else to say to you guys.

[Ronnie]

This is one thing that always surprises me about this show, and especially the reunions, is that it's so entertaining because I. The first time I went to Bravo Con, I went to a summer house house panel or what? Is there someone in my house? Did you hear it? There's a ghost in that house. I'm telling.

[Ben]

There's a beep.

[Ronnie]

A beep.

[Ben]

I can't tell if it's a bird or, like, something. Oh, it's a bird.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that bird does sound like a beep. I know what you're talking.

[Ben]

Is there a carbon monoxide issue?

[Ronnie]

No, no. It's literally the bird.

[Ben]

It's a bird. It's a bird. I love.

[Andy Cohen]

Like, let's stop the podcast.

[Ben]

I was like, I'm so glad. I love that you can sit on my bird.

[Ronnie]

I thought. I think it's in my mind. I'm like, birds don't sound like this. I actually went outside looking for the bird. I was like, birds do not tweet like this. What is that? It was a bird.

[Ben]

This is why I got disoriented in the notes because, like, I just got lost because I was like, what's Going on with this noise out here.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I hear it too.

[Ben]

So it faded away.

[Ronnie]

Sorry.

[Ben]

But now it's back. Okay, sorry.

[Ronnie]

I'm getting an air rifle.

[Ben]

Okay. So catching.

[Ronnie]

Anyway, the point. I was a probacon. I went to. I went to this panel, the summer house panel channel, when I tell you, and it was like summer house and winter house. It was like all of them there. Those people cannot string a sentence together and they don't have anything to say. It's. You know, it's like they haven't taken. I don't know how they even do confessionals, honestly. You know, I wonder how many times I have to stop and start and say, could you form that into a sentence? Or could you, you know, not just say. Yeah, you know, a lot of their questions, they'd be like, so how do you feel about this guy cheating on you? And they were like, yeah, okay. Well, does any, you know, anyone else from the audience? I mean, that's how the whole thing went. So I'm always impressed they can put together such a fun show because. Yikes. So these pre interviews are kind of like that. Yeah. So how do you feel? They're like, good. Okay, well, anything deeper?

[Ben]

No.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So then we go back to Sierra's dressing room, and Kyle goes in there and he's like, by the way, I sent you a text last night, and I saw he's hard to type. But then you didn't finish it. So, like, what the. Brian? Like, she's like, yeah, because you. You may not remember, like, I'm going through. She's like, yeah, I finished the last episode because they. They had to watch the episodes the night before. Right. Because for the reunions, they. They whatever episodes have not aired. They, like, watch. And so they both were like, for Kyle and Sierra, it was like, a lot because it was the kiss. It was the end. For Kyle, it was he and Amanda having this end of summer talk and everything. And Kyle's like, I will say, those last two episodes, that was like, the toughest reading prep I've ever gone through. I don't think people understand. I was like, I am bottoming out. I was like, what? I know.

[Ronnie]

Me too. My ears pricked up too. I was like, finally. I don't think I've been manifesting. You're on your. Your butt is on every vision board I've made for the past 10 years.

[Ben]

People don't understand. I was so disturbed by those last two episodes. I just found a gay bar, went into a bathroom, and just flung myself over a Toilet and said, have at it, boys. Started bottoming like crazy.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, he says he's bottoming out. And Sierra's like, oh, my God. And he goes, yeah, I don't think people understood. You know, this whole summer, I was like, bottom. Okay, Kyle, I kind of feel for you in this situation, I guess, but let's not. Kyle is going to totally take this advantage to make himself like, oh, look, this. All of this yelling at my wife and all of this shitty treatment of my wife. Now you guys understand it, right? No, no, Kyle, I'm sorry. You don't get a free pass on all that stuff. This sucks for you.

[Ben]

Kylie, you are in the supporting actress category, and so we. You do get your award, but you were not. You're not in the lead right here.

[Ronnie]

So, like, yeah, I'm sorry. This is not yours.

[Ben]

It's not yours.

[Ronnie]

Back down and reconsider bottoming.

[Ben]

We will. We will be open to you bottoming. So now we go back to west and the Amanda and West Room, and

[Andy Cohen]

he's like, okay, well, God, you guys are really. I've been here for 10 minutes trying to get you guys to say something, and you guys really won't say anything. Anything. All right, I'm just gonna go.

[Ben]

And Wes goes, oh, that wasn't so bad. I mean, it's like, that was nothing, you idiot. So now, finally, they go out to the reunion, to the set, and Bailey is there.

[Andy Cohen]

Hi, Bailey. Hi, girl. Hi, everyone.

[Ben]

And people are slowly walking out. Kyle is, like, checking out the set. He's like, wow, you guys. There's always so much detail on these sets. I am so impressed with how you guys do. That is amazing. He's such a dad. He's such the dad who comes over and, like, inspects your grill or your tires.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So everyone comes out, hugs, everybody looks great. Lindsay, of course, comes out wearing Ariana's revenge dress. Yes. Which I love. And also a lot of drag queen makeup around the boobs. She's, like, fully doing. You know who did that? Who was a sup Was saying this. The sexy unique podcast. Those guys are so funny. They were on. They were on quips last night, too. They made a couple videos, and I was cracking up at them. I love them. But they were. They were saying, I don't. I don't even want to. I don't even want to say it because they're better. Just go listen to them. But they were saying something like, Lindsay is, like, her own kind of drag queen now, which is so true. I mean, she was Coming out with her, her boobs, like, fully made up. I was like, what is Lindsay? Lindsay is on another complete planet and show, and I love it for her. So she comes out wearing Ariana's revenge dress. And he's like, that's Ariana's dress, right? She's like, well, someone should wear it.

[Andy Cohen]

I had to make up for Kyle

[Ben]

because they, you know, they showed the image that someone made of Kyle photoshopped onto Ariana. You look good in it. It was really good. Because you know what's great about Ariana's dress? She went tanning. Oh, my God. Hella tan lines with that dress. So hot.

[Ronnie]

So Jesse comes out singing what a day, what a day. And it was. It was conflicting with my own song, which was shut the up, please.

[Ben]

Mia struts out there like she's on a Runway. She's like, you know, it's like this amazing strut. She's like, that's right. I have arrived. Yes, the audience does love me. Yes, I do get DMS from Rihanna. So she comes out. Everyone comes out. Carl takes a selfie with Jesse and kj, and Jesse's like, hey, is they come before the storm? And Katie goes, yeah, literally, like, is it storming? So then, like, that's what be a literal storm, guys.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, the. Everyone just gathers out on the stage, and Sierra comes out wearing, like, a bikini top with that. I mean, I don't know what the it was, but, God, I can't imagine looking like that. How do you even live a life looking like that? What is it like just leaving your house? You know, do people just stop you and just give you things? Because I feel like if I saw that coming into a room, I would just take out my wallet. I'd be like, here's my wallet. Here's my phone. It's like you're checking in, you know, to a concert, just putting everything in a bowl. I'd just be like, take it all. Here's my house keys. I don't care. I'll sign it to you.

[Ben]

Sierra's definitely, like, having her moment where she. It's like Elizabeth shoe and soap dish. Where now she's like the star, and she. And she has, like, that big yellow thing on. And of course, totally different outfits. But it's like when you see the person, finally the spotlight shines on them, and they just get that glow up. I mean, Sierra was already glowing up. Glow. Is that a word? But now it's just like, now she's just like superstar Sierra. So she. She's out on stage. But before she comes out on stage, first we have Amanda coming out on stage, which is as awkward as you can imagine, because before Amanda comes out, everyone is like, hey, good to see you.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

This is fun. Oh, cool set.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, badger.

[Ben]

Banter, banter. Comedy.

[Andy Cohen]

Ah.

[Ben]

And then Amanda comes out, and everyone's like, hi. Hi, Andy.

[Andy Cohen]

Good. You look beautiful. Have a seat.

[Ben]

Like, hello, I'm.

[Andy Cohen]

And, like, the butter yellow. That's nice.

[Ben]

It's so awkward and cringy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that outfit wasn't good either. I'm not just saying that as a hater of, you know, things that have gone on this season. That just wasn't a good outfit. It was. It was sad. It's like. So then west is gets a text alert and checks his phone, and he's like, I just got, like, a text that someone hacked my phone, and there's, like, nudes of me been sending around Missouri. So, like, oh, it's like, a good text to get, like, right before. This guy is pretty ox. All right. Everyone want to see him. And he starts passing them around. And this is what I'm saying. Most people would be mortified. And Wes is like, hey, here's my phone. Here's my dick, Everybody. I made it. My dick is in page six, yo.

[Ben]

I could have sworn that the. The nudes leaked way before this. The reunion. But, I mean, what do I know? I also liked him saying, like, yeah, there are nudes of me being sent around Missouri. I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's not. It's not constrained to Missouri, so.

[Andy Cohen]

And he's like, wow, when it rains, it pours. Am I right? Who else has a dick pic? Would you like to send it to me first before it goes out the of.

[Ben]

To the Internet? I will receive them all.

[Andy Cohen]

Thank you very much.

[Ronnie]

And then Amanda goes, well, that's weird, because I've never gotten any. Yeah, real funny, Amanda. Read the room. Amanda, what is wrong with you?

[Ben]

It's such a typical Amanda response, like, what about me? So, yeah, then they're like, Wes is like, am I hard in the picture? And Jesse's like, no. He's like, what? I'm soft? She's like, yeah, flaccid. Very soft. Flaccid. Not soft, but soft. Soft. It's kind of my word, guys. It's not funny.

[Andy Cohen]

Soft.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I'm not giving you that. It's trademarked. You are flaccid. So Wes is like, yep, that's me. And Jesse's like, yeah, curves left it's me that Sam.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Curves left, everybody. All right, we're about to start. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

[Andy Cohen]

Hello, everybody.

[Ronnie]

Welcome to summer house. It's me, Andy Cohen, sitting here with a bunch of not vials of stem cells which I could actually really use right now. So if anybody's got some access, send them over.

[Andy Cohen]

All right, well, while some endings were crystal clear, this season, one jaw dropping new beginning has left the housemaids and the adire Bravo sphere with a lot of questions. First, I want to say hi to the housemates. I want to start with you View viewers. You can come back in 15 minutes after I stop saying hello to this enormous cast. Hi, Sierra. Hi, Amanda. Hi, Lizzie.

[Ben]

Fast forward to 45 minutes later and hello, KJ.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so he does his usual 30 minutes of hello and then they get to of course with Sierra and he's like, so you've gotten a lot of love and support from the Bravo verse. What's that been like? And she's like, in insane. Like, a lot more than I would have expected. Okay, well, that's great. Glad to see it. But I really want to tell Westy to bed, so.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Hi, Matt. Hi, Matt. Okay, I'm at How you feeling tonight? She's like, I mean, I'm prepared to, like, take accountability and own up to what I've done and apologize, especially to Sierra and Kyle, whose numbers unfortunately I don't have. So I couldn't really speak to them before TV cameras were around, but hopefully I can explain to everyone's face, you know, what went on and where I'm coming from. And Sierra's like, well, I'm glad she could say our name tonight. Right. Because she did not say their names in the apology.

[Ben]

Yeah. And a minute ago.

[Andy Cohen]

What?

[Ben]

But she doesn't say what like she heard it, but she says what? Like it had the tone of say it to my face. And Sarah goes, I'm glad you could say your name. Our name this time. And it means like, I'm like, like Amanda when she, like, you have to take it. You cannot be combative right here. You are the one who caused the infractions. You like. Like the moment that she had that tone of like, what? I was like, oh, no, Amanda already, by the way, before it got to Sierra, I also was cracking up. And Andy saying hi to Kyle because

[Andy Cohen]

he's like, kyle, I gotta admit, I thought you were gonna have a lot to answer for. I thought you were gonna be the

[Ben]

villain of the season.

[Andy Cohen]

I mean, you were just awful. You were just like, so Shitty. I mean, everyone hated you. I was like, it's gonna be a big pylon. And then suddenly this deus ex machina came out and like, he saved you. Oh my God. So what does it feel like to know that you had the worst edit and somehow are getting sympathy tonight? Is that great?

[Ben]

He's like, yeah. I don't know how that happened, but yeah, it feels really good. He's.

[Andy Cohen]

Yeah. How does it feel to not be the biggest problem in the room?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you know, hopefully everybody can see that. I was like really spinning out. No, you're an. Okay, let's get over to West. West. Hey, Wes. He's like, hands. Hey. And. Well, I've gotta ask. I mean, listen, two years ago, that was your first reunion. Yeah. You really should have been on that one. God, that was so funny. You were so bad. You were terrible. I can't even believe you got another season. And then you came back last year and oh, thank God we put some plastic sheets down because you it even harder and here you are. You going to it again. What are you going to do today? The vet?

[Ben]

Well, I think there's like a lot to be like explain and like, like things to share that will hopefully clear up like a lot of like, like the wildfire that this became. And so like I'm really going to like, like clear it up by like not talking at all. So I'm just, I'm just gonna be here online. I'm not gonna. Not gonna talk. By the way, west, we didn't even mention this. Wes comes out, he is dressed like he's going to fraternity formal. Like he literally looks like he is a 20 year old who has never worn a suit in his life. It's like all bulging in weird places. Like the collars coming up to his, one to his ear, like one's coming down his shoulder. It's like he's disheveled. This is someone who does not, who has not come comfortable in this. And he's like ready to get onto some sort of bus to go to some venue and get faced and have sex with someone.

[Andy Cohen]

Like, he does not.

[Ben]

He looks so out of place right now.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So, you know, then we say hi to Carl. Carl, you a mess. And he's like, well, it's just been kind of hard to reconcile what we're watching and like what kind of feels like what was going on because like our group, like we're crying out but like we hold ourselves to a higher standard here. Do you wait, what Summer house, Carl, what the show Is Carl on?

[Ben]

Are you a Hebrew national hot dog? What higher standard is happening here? What are you doing your summer house. We've been watching you for 10 years. You guys were dressed up like old people with fake prosthetic boobies running around on tricycles. Like, there. There is no higher standard happening here. Okay?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And we owe to each other. Like, we owe to our audience. Like, be real. Tell the truth.

[Ben]

Take accountability.

[Ronnie]

I just. I'm nervous. I'm nervous and anxious. As someone who didn't do anything this season, I'm really nervous for all the nothing I have to answer for.

[Ben]

Thank you.

[Ronnie]

This is Carl running for. Running for mayor of Carl.

[Ben]

Thank you. I'm just, like, really nervous because of my layover here. I noticed that my favorite obonpan in Chicago was turned into brioche dore, and I just. I'm, like, out of sorts. I just don't even know what to do.

[Ronnie]

So when we check in with Jesse, how's Jesse feeling, guys? And Jesse's also loving this because Jesse was a prick the first half of the season, so he also kind of got off. Right? So Jesse's like, I don't know, just kind of hit me, like, like, your friendship girl was wrecked, and it's just sad. I hope we're not, like, mourning the loss of what we have. Like, I hope we can find some common ground and, like, move forward the best way we can. Hold on.

[Ben]

If someone say something about going to common grounds, there in the mix. I'm back. The mess is over. I'm not in the mess. I'm in the mix.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay, cool.

[Ronnie]

All right.

[Andy Cohen]

Hi. Let's say hi to the newbies. Hi, Bailey. Finally. Don't worry. No sweet green breakups today. You're all safe and sound on the couch. I don't really appreciate you ridiculing my situation at Lee, but thank you very much for that. Thank you for acknowledging my presence.

[Ronnie]

Then we say hi to Mia, who's met Rihanna, and Rihanna told her she's a badass. And, you know, she would have said that tonight too. Andy. They're like, oh, my God. Yes, Mia. And KJ is sad because this family. This is like a family, and the family has issues, and I feel like there was a lot of fraudulent activity.

[Ben]

I just want KJ to know that he is right. This is like a family. And if it's any consolation, this camp, this family has had lots of issues since the beginning. So, like, and for Jesse, too, like, don't worry. This. This friend group is. Deals with this all the time, even on a scandal level. It'll be fine.

[Ronnie]

I just love the term fraudulent activity. Like, can't use your card today. There was some fraudulent activity. You need to get on your Citibank app right away, sir. Okay. All right.

[Andy Cohen]

Andy, how is the missus?

[Ben]

10 out of 10. Thanks for. Thanks for asking. In fact, if you look, she is right behind you.

[Andy Cohen]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

I'm sorry. I just snuck onto the set. I just love you so much. I could tell that we're soulmates.

[Andy Cohen]

All right, someone get this out of here.

[Ronnie]

All right, well, let's start by addressing the elephant in the room.

[Ben]

Oh, is it about me being a mess?

[Ronnie]

Well, Amanda and West were spotted holding hands at an event in February ignoring what it first felt like an outlandish Internet conspiracy. And when I asked west about those rumors on watch what happens live, his tepid denials only fueled speculation. Let's see the clip. And we see the clip of west being like, oh, you know, I just, like, gotta, like, show her, like, the streets a little bit, you know, like, if it's not clear, I mean, that's like, a very important person to me. And, like, like, I care about her. I care about her a lot, hear about her a lot.

[Andy Cohen]

All right. Even I'm getting annoyed with a. With a flashback. And finally, on March 31st, just three weeks ago, Wes and Amanda released a joint statement confirming their romance. This led to an avalanche of questions like, where does this leave Sierra and Kyle?

[Ben]

Is Carl actually a mess? Yes, I am. Oh, no. It was a rhetorical.

[Andy Cohen]

Carl and Sierra, when in. Why did you first suspect that something was going on between Wes and Amanda? And who has the biggest boobs? Come on. Someone answered this question at long last.

[Ronnie]

So Sierra says that the first day she Suspected it was January 17th because she went to call Amanda to invite her out to drinks with her and Mia, and her location was at west house. And so she called, and Amanda didn't answer. And then she texted and she didn't answer. And man's like, I answered in 30 minutes. She was. Yeah. After Mia put us in a group chat to see if you would respond. But when I called you, you didn't answer. So I was like, that's weird. Like, why would she be at west house?

[Ben]

So why is Amanda already like, try. Like, why is she so focused on being like. I answered it within 30 minutes, Sierra saying, this is when she suspected something, and the suspicion wound up being correct. So what is Amanda gain for clarifying that? She called back in 30 minutes. She's basically Trying to say you were crazy for suspecting that Wes and I were up to something, even though we were up to something, and now we are up to something.

[Ronnie]

It's like, because she's saying. Because her and west keep saying over and over, timeline, timeline, timeline. We want to set the timeline straight. This is about the timeline. The timeline. Because they're lying about their timeline. And so they're saying you're lying by saying something was going on with us at this day, trying to make us look bad when nothing was going on this day. It didn't happen until recently when we came out of the closet about it on the Internet. We didn't go. We don't sleep with each other until we had told the Internet first.

[Ben]

Oh, well, I think Amanda's response should have been like, yeah, I was at west house. Like, I was. We were hanging out. But it wasn't. There was nothing crazy at that time. I was just hanging out with him instead of, no, I called you back. Like, sort of questioning Sierra's reality. Like, that's. That's the problem with Amanda. She is constantly trying to push back and sort of suggest that Sierra is being a liar here. It's like, don't. Don't try that. Like, if you, like. If you're gonna try to, like. Like curry favor or just, like, state your case, just respond to why that was. But don't be like, no, you're wrong. Like, no, that's. It's not going to work out for you.

[Ronnie]

I think what's happening here. Here's my theory on it. I think west has hated Sierra for a long time because he feels like she made him look bad. He. She made America hate him, basically. And in his mind and his stupid little mind, he thinks that everything is her fault and that he was honest with her about not wanting anything. And then she acted like they were boyfriend and girlfriend and made him look bad when he really didn't do anything wrong. Being in a summer house, I think that's how he honestly looks at it. And all of this making up with Sierra and all of this kissing her ass and everything all season and trying to flirt with her and get her back in his good graces is because, a, the flirt is the only weapon he has. He doesn't have a brain, so he's, like, trying that way, and he's doing it because he wants America back on his side. I don't think he's really ever liked Sierra. So I think his talking to Amanda is very much like, you got to watch out, because She's. If anybody finds out Sierra is going to ruin. You know, they're going to ruin our life because people like Sierra and they're going to ruin you. And so I think they've built up Sierra as this enemy before they even came out about it because they knew how bad it was going to be. So Amanda's approaching this in a very defensive way. Like, you can tell she's been hanging out with Wes because now she's approaching Sierra. Even back then when they hadn't admitted anything, she's approaching her like she's the enemy and that she's going to ultimately bring her down. But it's not Sierra that brought you down. It's your own actions against Sierra that brought you down, you dummies. You know?

[Ben]

Yeah. Because they almost mentally have to make Sierra the enemy to reconcile their actions. Right. Because they've done is wrong. And so.

[Ronnie]

Or.

[Ben]

Or one could say what they have done is hurtful. And they. It's hard for people to view themselves as being hurtful and that their actions were hurtful. So people often have to change the narrative to make themselves the heroes of their own story. And so that means turning Sierra into the villain. Like, it's actually unfair. We like each other, and why should we hide ourselves? Why should we hide this relationship? Just because she has issues with men and, like, maybe she should be the one to get over her issues. She's the one with walls up. And now all of a sudden we got tiptoe around her. But, like, you know, they're saying all that stuff. That's what they've been saying, and it's clear that now it's kind of bubbling out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I think that she. I think that if they have been banging or at least doing whatever blow. Whatever they're doing during the summer, which it looks pretty much like they were. That their conversations were probably like, well, this isn't fair. Like, I could just break up with Kyle right now and be with you. Well, we can't, because then that'll piss the audience off because Sierra's here. So I need to get through the Sierra thing first. Okay, well, then you need to work on your friendship storyline with Sierra so that we can come out of the closet. So then he starts working on this friendship storyline. But meanwhile, what Amanda doesn't know is that he's saying friendship, friendship, friendship to everyone he can on camera. But then he's going and making out with Sierra and, you know, saying, I have a crush on Sierra and all this stuff, which is why Amanda started Looking like, wait a minute. What do you mean they're going on a double date? That doesn't sound like friendship to me. And Amanda's getting all pissed off because the conversation she's having with west are like, oh, I'm just going to make her. I'm just going to. I'm just going to, you know, make it so I'm going to smooth everything over and smooth over this friendship so that we can finally be together. And he's just a fucking player. He's a fucking player, this guy. Amanda's an idiot. And I think they both turned Sierra into a villain a long time ago. And they just.

[Ben]

Very strong.

[Ronnie]

The failed, you know? Just failed.

[Ben]

Yeah, because it's two. It's two idiots trying to pull off some dumb heist. It's like a. It's like tweedle de tweedle dumb, as some have said. And in fact, what some people.

[Ronnie]

It's like an episode of Fargo, you know, like the. The criminals are always just such idiots. You're just watching the criminals fumble the whole time.

[Ben]

Someone on social media clocked later on in this reunion, if we get there in four hours, that when.

[Ronnie]

Seriously, we're still at hellos. Oh, my God, we're now at hello.

[Ben]

We've got 45 minutes till we have to pivot to Amazon. I'm like, are we even gonna get out of the hellos? But someone pivoted. Someone said, pointed out how when Sierra is talking about having sleepovers with Wes later on in the episode, they cut to Amanda and she is, like, breathing deep and like, doing like. Like doing these like. Like exhales like, yeah, like she wants to say something. And they're like, yeah, she is breathing through it because she was with west at that time. And so to hear that. That Wes was having sleepovers with Sierra during this is like, you know, Amanda is feeling things, but she can't speak on them because then she would reveal her timeline, which is.

[Ronnie]

Right. She's looking at Sierra as the mistress, you know, so you have to look at it from that. Like, Amanda's looking at it like. Like, I've been with this guy and you're the one. This guy. Like, why are you still talking about my boyfriend? Like, Amanda's got it so twisted in her own stupid little head, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

So Sierra's like, you know, so she says the group chat thing and like, and then you were at west. And Amanda's like, well, and she goes, I'm speaking. So I was like, you know, that's weird. And why would she be at West House? And she's like, because west was there for me all summer and he was checking in on me.

[Ben]

So then. Which sounds nice. And then Sierra's like, and where was I? She goes, well, you were also there for me. And she's like, but like, he asked me to get a drink. And she goes, well, where was I? I mean, by the way, all these things, he asked you to get a drink. He was there for you. That does not mean that you can't respond to Sierra. I mean, why don't you all just go out for a drink together? Like, what's crazy about that? Why don't you say, hey, can I bring west along? So Amanda's like, you are also there for me. And I'm not discrediting that. She was like, yeah, and how many times have I asked you to hang out? And you've either blown me off or whatever.

[Andy Cohen]

She's. I hung out with Wes twice.

[Ben]

She goes, shut the fuck up. How many times have I asked you to hang out? Have I asked you to come over to your house? Have I invited you to do stuff? And you act like your phone doesn't work? And I was like, that. I can imagine. Amanda is that person who's like, oh, oops, I just got this. Oops, I fell asleep and saw this this morning. This text message this morning. She's totally that person. And you know it's because she just doesn't want to say, I don't want to hang out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And Mia's like, well, yeah, it's pretty weird that you're prioritizing your friendship with Wes. She goes, no, I wasn't. Just. I mean, yeah, you were like, you're not calling them back so that you could hang out with west is what you're literally saying right now. And she goes, then why aren't you responding to her? And she's like, oh, my. Oh, my God. Guess what? I had an awakening. I was living on my own. I separated from my ex. I was trying to prioritize myself.

[Ben]

No, you don't get to have a waiting to exhale moment right here. This is just not happening.

[Ronnie]

Not the time. And this is the problem is that you're prioritizing yourself and not being a good friend of the people around you. Amanda, now's not the time to brag about prioritizing yourself. Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Prioritizing yourself does not mean that you just ignore the person who helped you. Realize that you have to prioritize yourself. So Sierra's like, yeah, and then you hang out with. You know, you hang out with mine. You go out, you guys are going to bars, you're getting fucked up, and then you're breadcrumbing everyone on Instagram. Which I like that she brought that up, because Amanda was breadcrumbing people, and she was making those little videos, and she's like, well, I'm also hanging out with other people.

[Andy Cohen]

I'm not just hanging out with West. I was also hanging out with other people. Like a girl named Katie.

[Ben]

By the way, there's so many random Katies that are lingering around this group. I can't keep them straight. There's this Katie. There's another Katie from the city. Really? Just two. But it feels like there's 10. There's Katie from Vanderpump rules. It's hard.

[Ronnie]

Lots of Katie's. So who. Who? She goes, oh, what, you don't think I have other friends? She goes, goes, no, besides Katie DeLuca. And Carl's like, well, a lot of the friends you've been hanging out recently, Literally. Yeah. And this is like, yeah, those are west friends. Yeah, they're not your friends. And Carl's like, exactly, Exactly.

[Ben]

Friend police here. You don't have friends. Congratulations. You should be hanging out with Sierra.

[Andy Cohen]

I mean, it's like, oh, you guys. That's the only way you guys get on the Internet. I don't post every time. I go, wow.

[Ben]

And Lindsay's like, yeah, you were. And girl, y', all, some of your best friends you aren't even seeing anymore. And so they're basically busting her for, like, acting like, I'm allowed to have a life, okay? I've got other people to see. And they're like, you don't have friends. You don't hang out with anyone else.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. You just absorbed your boyfriend's. Your new boyfriend's personality, and you've taken on all of his friends, and it's just like you did the first time around, except this time is 10 years later. Like, you should know a little more by now, you know? And so she's like, I was just saying yes to everything. Really? Because your phone was broken and you weren't answering it for your friends. That's the point, Amanda.

[Ben]

The point is don't say that you're saying yes to everything. But then you're not answering Sierra's call because you're saying no to Sierra, and.

[Ronnie]

Cause it makes it even worse. She's like, I'm sorry I couldn't answer the phone, but I was, like, literally hanging out with everybody else. Like, I was saying yes to everything except you.

[Ben]

I mean. I mean, the truth is this. Sometimes when people go through separations, they really, like, they. They go through a period of like.

[Ronnie]

Like.

[Ben]

Like they're going through it. I had a friend who I was very close with, who she. She and her boyfriend, her husband, they broke up. And, like, our friendship just end. More or less ended after that because she just, like. Like, just went off. So, like, this definitely is something that happens. I'm not excusing it for Amanda, but I'm like, oh, here it goes again. Sometimes coming out of these relationships, it is like a crash and burn situation. And so Sierra. So Amanda's. Kyle's like, by the way, I just want to point out that she was hanging out with another Katie, too. Yeah. This is the fifth Katie in our group. Yeah. And Sierra's like, what, the kitty that's friends with West? And, I mean, I was like, no,

[Andy Cohen]

not friends with Wes. Off.

[Ben]

I'm like, amanda, you of all people cannot be on this reunion telling anyone to off, especially not Sierra. So Sierra's like, shut the up, Amanda. You don't want to cross this bridge with me. You really don't. I don't see your man sticking up for you now, huh? It's like, of course. Cut to Wes. He's like.

[Ronnie]

He's just staring at his knees, staring at the. Staring at the ground like, my dick looked really hot.

[Ben]

Do you think periwinkle was the right choice of color for this suit?

[Ronnie]

Am I the only one who got a bony off my dick pics, Jesse?

[Andy Cohen]

Well, I just heard what you said, and you're not actually.

[Ben]

So.

[Andy Cohen]

Jesse, you said on watch what happens live, you found out when the rest of the world did. Viewers wanted to quit you with Tom Schwartz and situation that you knew more

[Ben]

than you let on.

[Andy Cohen]

What is your response?

[Ben]

Yeah, I mean, I spoke with a man, and I sat her down for a drinky Tucci, and she told me it just wasn't true. And I don't know. I mean, I would text asking, and they were. Then he would tell me. Wes would say, it's not a. It's not true. So what can I say about that?

[Ronnie]

Also, Amanda's answer is she, like, gets those big eyes she gets, and she's like, jesse didn't know anything. It's like, stare straight into the camera. Like, you look. It looks very believable, Amanda. So Wes, like. Like, the. Like, the lying part, like, I'm not gonna just, like, sit here and, like, act like I didn't do it. Like, 100. I lied to people. Like, and I, like, take accountability for that, you know, because it's, like, not cool in general. It's, like, not cool to do. Do, like, with your friends. So, like, I take accountabilities, think.

[Ben]

Think a lot is. It's like, yeah. No matter what the case, like, lying to people you care about is not okay. Like, oh, thank you for your after school special moment. So Sierra's like. It's like the end of a cartoon. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

As you continue to lie through the rest of this.

[Ben]

This episode, Sierra's like, the problem is I feel like you lie about your life.

[Andy Cohen]

Life.

[Ben]

Like, you lie about who you are. I think you're the most fraudulent person sitting on the couch. And we've been here for three years now, and I don't think anybody really knows who you are. It's like, what? Why? Why do you say that? Because you live a different life off camera than you do on camera, and we don't know what you're doing. And probably the reason why it's so confusing is because you had a girlfriend, Mayha. And it's like, commercial, pronounced me, I think.

[Ronnie]

But yeah, she's like, Mia. And he's like, it's Meha.

[Ben]

Actually, I think you said may.

[Ronnie]

Oh, I thought she said. I thought she said Mia because I was like, Mia. There's another Mia in the mix.

[Ben]

Maya, mia, Meha, and 10 Katies.

[Ronnie]

So he's like, not a girlfriend. I was just seeing someone. Oh, God. That's what you say to everybody, though. That's the problem you have. You think that you can just change what you're doing by name, and that changes everything. You're with somebody that you're long term and, like, with them all the time, they're gonna think they're your girlfriend. So full of it, this guy. Like, how many girls at the same time did you have that thought they were your girlfriend that were not because you had her? You were stringing along Amanda, you were stringing along Sierra, and all the while keeping the secret so you could do this on tv. And now you're going to sit here and argue that you're not a liar and that you're not living a double life on camp. Come on, man.

[Ben]

Yeah. And it's like, also, I feel like he and Amanda are just, like, really hiding behind semantics, but especially he is this, like. No, we're not. We weren't, like, together. We were. We were just seeing each other. So, like, therefore, all of this is okay. It's like people's feelings are still involved. People will still feel a certain amount of attachment later on when they talk about, well, you know, I'm gonna just wait. I'll wait till later on because I'm gonna circle back to this. But it just drives me nuts that there's such a, like, a lack of consideration for people's feelings in these sort of situations, in these overlap. Like, oh, it's okay to have the overlap because I always said I didn't want to be this. Or we weren't officially boyfriend, girlfriend, or we didn't have sex. It's like you don't understand. Like, you're still affecting people. You're still creating expectations. You're still implying certain intimacy. And it's just like. It's so up.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm looking up this person now, which we don't really have time for. So Lindsay's like, well, she says that you guys were expecting exclusive, and in fact, she spent the night with you on the night before your watch with habit live on March 24th. And she, like, whips out her phone and S's like, and she made your tie weird. Weird. And Liz's like, I'm sorry, correction, March20, not March 21.

[Ben]

And Andy's like, oh, yeah.

[Andy Cohen]

So she brought you the tie. Was this. That horse hair tie that you wore?

[Ben]

And then we see a flash back to when. When Wes, like, Mayha made me this tie. Yeah, it's like, hey, shout Out, Snarl studios. It's horse hair. It's like real horse hair.

[Andy Cohen]

And he's like, oh, a real horse hair tie.

[Ben]

And he's looking at his crazy tie like, you're wearing a wig around your neck. I hate to tell you, you're wearing extensions with a tie.

[Ronnie]

You are wearing go naked hair around your neck, sir.

[Andy Cohen]

Okay, well, did you know that he was dating this woman?

[Ben]

Amanda's like, like, yeah. And Lindsay's like, so you knew?

[Andy Cohen]

You know now or you knew?

[Ben]

Then she goes.

[Andy Cohen]

And he's like, and you didn't care?

[Ben]

And Amanda's like, we had a whole conversation about it. And then Mia goes, amanda, why are you doing this? And I. I really wanted to before Mia jumped in. I really would like to have known. Like, you had a whole conversation and you were like, okay. Like, Wes was sort of seeing someone on enough of a level that he wore her tie onto tv and, like, you were down with this. Like, it's just crazy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but didn't she also say that they didn't. They didn't really become a thing until right when their statement came out. So why would you have a conversation about it? I need the timeline in front of me. Like, when did that statement come out? March.

[Ben]

The statement. The statement came out in March.

[Ronnie]

Three weeks. So then. So then they gave. So then they gave the statement, and then he was still this girl. That's crazy. Oh, no, no. I'm getting a lot. I'm getting lost in my timeline. There's so much. There's so much stupidity. But anyway, so she. Yeah, that is a good point, though. Like, and you didn't care. And that's the thing about Amanda, and that's what Mia makes a good point of, because it's like, you're. You spent 10 years with this Kyle, like, oh, my God, Kyle made out with somebody in a bar, like, years ago. Or like, Carl cheated on me before we got married. Which, by the way, is right to feel sensitive about and be bothered by. But she does all of that only to go with some guy who's literally. How many people. He was this girl.

[Ben]

That's the thing before.

[Ronnie]

Watch what happens. He just said he was also having sex with Sierra still, so. Well, he says that later. Later. But how many people. Now you're suddenly okay with it? Look, what's going on here?

[Ben]

That's why I'm wondering, like, why was Amanda okay with this situation? I'm not saying that this situation is something that's like, oh, oh, my goodness. How could you, like, date someone to hook up with someone who has, you know, who's. Who's also hooking up with someone else? There's all sorts of different arrangements. And also, like, if it's like, nothing's exclusive on. On any end, that's fine or whatever, but just seems like in the specific case of Amanda and what she seemed to have treasure and liked, etc, like, you're. You're engaging in this, and it's just.

[Ronnie]

Actually, if you think about it, it makes perfect sense because people are patterns, right? So Amanda. This is Amanda's. This is what Amanda knows. I mean, her husband she met when she was pretty young, right? How old was she when she was with Kyle? She was really young, so that's really young. So she's with Kyle and she's with this guy who's like, well, no, I'm gonna see multiple people. I'm not gonna commit to you. I'm not gonna do this. And she had to, like, show up every night whining and crying, and that was like, a whole big, like, game to try and get Kyle to finally commit. Remember, that was like, years of like, will Kyle commit? Will he not. Will Kyle ever stop cheating? Will Kyle ever stop having sex with other people and just let it be Amanda? So she's used to that kind of push and pull of, like, trying to win somebody who's unwinnable and then winning in the end and getting the guy in the end. So maybe that's just what she knows.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So Mia is like, amanda, why are you doing this?

[Andy Cohen]

And she's, like, doing what she was

[Ben]

like, you went from being married, and I'm not saying your relationship was perfect, but you went from being married to being one of West's side. That's crazy. Which. This is part of the leaked Audio. And man's like, okay. Mia's like, this is unnecessary.

[Andy Cohen]

And it's like, okay, okay, we're gonna talk about this. Let's just talk about the statement.

[Ben]

And Wes, like, so the statement came out, like, incredibly rushed because of, like. Like, how insane it all became. And, like, there's a zillion reasons why this was confusing and, like, didn't make sense. And there's, like, so many layers to it. I'm like, if there's so many layers to it, why did you rush your statement out? Like, that was. What are you doing? You know, these, like, people are not smart. So, like, oh, well, if. Is that enough layers to go, what the are we doing here period? Like, do you understand how you're gonna, like, affect someone who's trying to. For a marathon? Did you even think about that?

[Ronnie]

Well, we talked about it, and Sierra's like, oh, okay. So it was conscious. You guys talked about it, and it wasn't just some drunk hookup. You talked about it, and you knew how up it was and how weird it would be, and you still did it, and you chose to do it, and you keep doing it, or you kept doing it and you were hiding from it. And she's like, okay, but guess what? Sometimes you can't help who you like and, like, who you're attracted to. Oh, give me. Oh, really? Kyle, would you like to step in? Because this is a perfect time for Kyle to be like, really? Because that wasn't gratitude when I was, you know, making bad decisions in this department, Ma'. Am.

[Ben]

You know what? We are going to put a pin in this right here, because you know what? We have so much more to go. So we're just gonna end part one right here, and then we're going to pick up again with part two here on the first feed for the second half of this reunion episode. Everyone, thanks for being here. Stay tuned. Keep an eye on your feed. And we'll be back with part two and then later after that in the city. Bye, everyone. Watch what crap. INS would like to thank its premium sponsors. She answered the call. It's Adia Paul. Ain't no thing like Allison King.

[Ronnie]

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