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Ronnie Chieng
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Ben Mandelker
I'm gonna give it a try. Wish me luck. Me again. I put in the license plate. It gave me an offer. Unbelievable. Okay, I accepted the offer. They're picking it up Tuesday from the driveway. I haven't even left my chair. It's done. The car is gone. I'm holding a check anyway. Carvana, give it a whirl. Love ya. So good you'll want to leave a voicemail about it. Sell your car today on car pickup fees may apply. Who cares what happens when there's so much good? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch Watch Crappens. A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me here in person in New York City. Yeah, Mr. Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie.
Ronnie Chieng
Hello.
Ben Mandelker
How's it going?
Ronnie Chieng
Good.
Ben Mandelker
We are here.
Ronnie Chieng
Nice to be in person.
Ben Mandelker
I know, right? We are here at the Acast studios in nyc. Tomorrow night is our big cabaret. We hope you join us virtually. If you're not coming in person, go to our watchcrappins.com or use the link on our social media and you can get streaming tickets. So go there. The tickets are available up until curtain for each show that you want to watch. But the tickets you'll. The streaming will be available for a week afterwards if you bought your ticket. So we hope you join for that. We're so excited. Ronnie got some cool props for us that we excited to play with.
Ronnie Chieng
Could you show me our angles?
Ben Mandelker
Do you want. Do you want to see angle?
Ronnie Chieng
So okay. Good, good. So we don't have the. We don't have the center one. Thank God. That center one kills me. I'm not, I'm not a profile person. I'm a straight on kind of a person.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
No one ever likes me meeting me like this.
Ben Mandelker
I think it's a good angle for you. But yeah, I. I've just given up on trying to get a good angle. I feel like it's just over.
Ronnie Chieng
Good angles are over.
Ben Mandelker
Good angles are over. A thing of the past good angles are things for your 20s and 30s and just have to accept the fact that I just don't have the angles that I want.
Ronnie Chieng
Penis strength. Good angles. It's gone.
Ben Mandelker
Good angles.
Ronnie Chieng
All gone.
Ben Mandelker
But what we do have is some good TV to talk about. We'll be talking about Below Deck down under season finale today. Also check out our Patreon weekly bonus episode this week. For the bonus episode we are doing a cast preview for Love Island. Yeah, it's back tonight. So. But we're so busy with this cabaret. We are not gonna be recapp Love island this week but we are going to do a breakdown of the cast for the bonus episode. Patreon.com Watch for Crappins. There's also Ronnie's newsletter every listening and all the great stuff you might want including beautiful video. Look at this for like really nice video.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
So any wholes.
Ronnie Chieng
So below deck down under Dan and just ended just season. Very good season. Strongest below deck down under in decades and yeah.
Ben Mandelker
And probably one of the best below decks ever. I think one best seasons ever. I thought so. I just thought was so good.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. Good. I was really happy for Daisy because it's rough, you know, going from a different show, you know, the sailing yacht into this one. Yeah. I think for a lot of shows it wouldn't really matter because it's just below deck. But that really mattered because selling yacht was really put together on $5.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
And a janky boat that was always about to tip over and fall into the sea. And a big sexual. I mean the sexual harasser. Gary. I that that whole show was very like low rent and so this was her chance to like come up into a higher rent show and I think she killed it.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I was so glad that she got to be in a boat that wasn't listing sideways for half the season. I was like she gets to be fully horizontal for a whole season. That was very special stuff.
Ronnie Chieng
Was still falling to the ground and crashing. But that was because the first half wasn't really the.
Ben Mandelker
It was really good. And I feel like the crux of the drama on the boat for the most part was really driven by professional, you know, issues as opposed to some like focusing too much on the personal stuff. We did have some obviously some love triangles going on but we had like just the right amount of it. I felt like. And so I thought the balance was right. The tone was right. Also I really enjoyed that this last episode featured almost no Eddie. In fact to a degree that I thought was almost strange. I thought like did something happen? Because he was.
Ronnie Chieng
I think he went to his Instagram.
Ben Mandelker
That's. I actually think that's what happened. I kind of feel like people saw his Instagram and were like, oh, yeah, we. Let's. Let's not, like, center him in this, because he was sort of a big part of the episodes leading up to the finale. And then he barely got any confessionals. He barely got any moments. It seemed like he was just, like, almost written out of the show. And, I mean, I was glad. I mean, I think the guy was a piece of shit.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, I'll tell you what they did not write out was his terrible hair and his mustache. That was still there.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
So congratulations. That was definitely still making the final cut. Yeah, they were so bad, they had to keep it. So here we go below deck, down onto season four, episode 18, Canawan and done.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, funny. See? Yeah. Kind of one and done. So where we left off was the linen cliffhanger of our lifetime, which is what will happen now that Ben has taken the lens off of a bed that was already made to sleep his
Ronnie Chieng
slimy ass and greasy ass in that bed. That man smells like Franz. Yeah. Spilled Franzia from three days ago. You know he does. That man is disgusting. Get the fuck out of the bed.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Even sleeping in the hotel. We're in hotels now, obviously. And I slept in that bed, and I was like, I wonder if someone like Ben came in here and slept on the mattress without a sheet on it, because that disgusting. And I'm never gonna forgive it. Yeah, we're gonna forgive it. And everyone online's like, oh, so nice. Have such a classy chef. He's not classy just because he has a accent. No. Okay, we need to stop with that. That's not an accent. Yeah. And so they're, like, suddenly classy. He's still trash.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Yeah. So he really sucks. I. Yeah, I was. I. I still, like, don't like the fact that he. He still really was standing, like, 10 toes down in his excuses. Like, I was yelled at. I was yelled at. I want. And then it pivots to, like, oh, I wanted to take myself out of the situation. No, you wanted to sleep in a nice bed because you felt like you were entitled to it, and you are trying to reframe it. Like, you're the victim of Daisy. Oh, please, sir. The amount that you've yelled at people, that you've been rude to people, etc, and that you have to face the consequences.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Of your actions. Like, I'm sorry.
Ronnie Chieng
Sorry.
Ben Mandelker
Like, I'M not buying any of it.
Ronnie Chieng
That being said, I love his victim storyline. He's like, I just had to get out of that. I was so hot.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, I'm so traumatized.
Ronnie Chieng
Grow up. You're like 50. You're. You're a 50 year old alcoholic. I'm sure you're yelled at all the time. Okay.
Ben Mandelker
That being said, I think Ben was a tremendous addition to the show because Ben was amazing. Honestly, like, it's just been so long since we've had an egotistical chef on Below Deck. We've almost had chefs that are like, too nice or too. Okay. Like, we need chefs that are like, a little deranged and a little pompous, that are kind of like, the world revolves around me. Because that really creates so much drama with the interior and think it's good food.
Ronnie Chieng
I mean, I don't believe good people are good chefs.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
It's just a fact.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
You know, and you see them a lot on Food Network now because there's such a big celebrity chef culture. And you see so many chefs, and some of them seem so nice, and they're like packages where they're like, oh, my child. I'm doing this all for my child who's missing a knee or whatever. And we're all supposed to cry. And, you know, if they're any good, you know, they. They pro. Their child is missing a knee because they probably knocked it out because they were bad at soccer. Like the parent, you know, they're bad. Bad people are good chefs.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Have you ever seen Top Chef? And someone said, well, I had a really great childhood and I got straight A's and I don't know, I was captain of the basketball team. And so I decided to become a chef. No, it's always like, I hated my parents. I did hard drugs, I wound up in the gutter, and then someone gave me a chance to wash a dish in the back of a restaurant, and I became a chef. Like, that's. It's always that, you know, I know
Ronnie Chieng
there's so many people who are like, I want to be a chef. I'm going to go to culinary school. You don't need an education. You need a heroin addiction and a recovery timeline and then a bunch of tattoos of pigs and bacon.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Boom. You're gonna make it.
Ben Mandelker
Exactly, exactly. So, like, when Blow Deck has, like, cheery, happy chefs, like that one girl, Alicia. Alicia from, like, sailing Yacht, I was like, why? Like, why are you wasting your time with this? Because from sailing, she was just like, this Nice, sweet girl.
Ronnie Chieng
Who's that? See, I don't even know who she is. I raised her from my mind.
Ben Mandelker
We need the ones who are like a bit crazy, but they can't be so crazy that there's no way in for us. Like we have to have like a little. There has to be just enough like intrigue or friendliness that we, we do sort of root for them at the same time in a weird way. But like ultimately we don't like them. Like if they're, if they're just too awful. Like that one guy, Tom, who is Malia's boyfriend at the time, then, then
Ronnie Chieng
they're just, oh yeah, he was terrible.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. But like Ben is that perfect, you know, mix of being entertaining you. He doesn't drive you mad. But then he can be so rude and he is like, he, he's like a villain. He's like the exact right kind of villain that you are.
Ronnie Chieng
He's happy, enjoyable. Yeah, yeah, he's a, he's a good addition. I hope he keeps doing it really forever.
Ben Mandelker
I hope so because also like his relationship with like he and Daisy were so entertaining together, you know, because she's just does not take any of his in a way that I thought was like so great to see. I loved watching them sort of come head to head because like two very strong willed people who are both good at their job. I don't know, I like, I, I liked it. I really like their dynamic and I
Ronnie Chieng
like the dynamic of just Daisy's attitude because she really is just such a, you know, she's like such a potty mouth pirate.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Who we were like, how did you get on into luxury service on you? Like it doesn't really make sense that she would even be in that position. But she's so good on the show. She's. And she seems to be so good at her job. I mean this show's always had trouble because Kate and you know, we had Hannah later had like the bitchy but still funny quality. And then they tried to replicate that. They're like, okay, let's just try and find bitchy funny Chief Stews. And that's just not always going to work. And then they finally figured out as long as we have a strong personality that'll work and Daisy's unpolished behavior is great. And then, you know, you have Asia on the used to be from this one, but now she's on regular. Right.
Ben Mandelker
Med.
Ronnie Chieng
She's on med. And you know her over like, oh, I'm so excited to be here. What are we having breakfast? Oh, you know, that. That works because it's so extreme, but they've. They've really got it down. And it's nice to see after below deck, regular flavor. Because that was a night, you know, especially for you. I enjoyed that more than. Than you do.
Ben Mandelker
But, yeah, I'm not sold on Fraser as being, like, a really strong.
Ronnie Chieng
Like, I was gonna say.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, they haven't really got it. I think they're really, like. They're leaning into Fraser because he's handsome and gay. He's a gay. It's like a little something. And, you know, he's, like, British, so he's, like, sarcastic. But I. I feel like. I feel like a lot of stuff that Fraser says feels very much rehearsed, or it just feels like he's making. I was like, he's, like, winking at the camera, you know, and I'm always like. Like, I don't know. It's like, just. It's not coming off as. As fun and effortless as it has. I mean, Asia winks at the camera a lot too, but that's also, like, her vibe in a way that's, like, funny. But, like, Fraser is, like, trying to come off, like he's withering the way Kate is, but in a way that doesn't feel as smooth. Anywho, we've got more.
Ronnie Chieng
Bravo. Threw us a bony gay. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, so linen gate. Linen gate. Ben is Ben. Ben and Joao are having a fight because, well, I was like, you have to get out of the bedroom.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm standing up for Daisy and all of the ladies who have ever had to make beds. You get out of here. Making a bed is very difficult. Get out. Oh, really?
Ben Mandelker
You be careful.
Ronnie Chieng
Wow. Well, I went to the engine room and I talked.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah, because it's a national floor emergency. You prick.
Ronnie Chieng
How dare you. So then we go to the other people in the hot tub, which are Eddie, Barbie and Daisy, and Eddie's like, they're kicking off at each other. Oh, no.
Ben Mandelker
I'll remember this, you wanker. I'll remember.
Ronnie Chieng
The chef will never forget about the time you tried to kick him out of the room he wasn't supposed to be in, so we took off the lemons.
Ben Mandelker
I will never forget.
Ronnie Chieng
I remember this wanker.
Ben Mandelker
It's like the thing you say after you burn down someone's home. Not when someone says, can you get out of that bed?
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, it feels like he just got pushed into a locker. And now the bullies are far enough away. They can be like, I'll get you, wanker. Like, you already got your ass.
Ben Mandelker
Or it's like you're the villain of, like, a Saturday morning cartoon. You're like Dr. Claude, Inspector Gadget. I'll get you next time, Skeletor.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, me and Joao are actually friends, so it'd be nice if he had my back, you know, he shouldn't be trying to get me out of guest cabin. I lock the door for a reason. It's been a really long season. I haven't been sleeping well at all, you know, two, three hours max. Well, that's just not true.
Ben Mandelker
That's not true. You've been sleeping in the. In the. In the primary bedroom. Every single chart, like, every single charter you've had.
Ronnie Chieng
You. You have wine like it's water. You sleep.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm so sick of drunk saying they can't sleep. You sleep just fine.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, exactly.
Ronnie Chieng
Trust me, I know. If anybody will know, it's me.
Ben Mandelker
So they're all. They're all very upset about this and everything. And Joao is like, now he's back in the hot tub and he's talking to Alicia, and he's like, well, that's 1:12. And he's like, did it. He's like, no, no, of course I can't.
Ronnie Chieng
I told you. I want. So now Daisy asked Joao to have a cigarette with her. Daisy really just does not care. Smoking can go out of stock. Daisy does not care. She's going to smoke until she's dead. She's just one of those. Daisy's a bowling alley person. You know, I grew up working in the family bowling alley, and there's just a specific kind of person you look at, and you're like, that right there is a bowling alley person, you know, Tried and true. I guarantee you Daisy can bowl a turkey.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, like an actual one. She will take a turkey and send it down the lane.
Ronnie Chieng
Listen here, you lazy fucking turkey.
Ben Mandelker
Look, it's not square. That means it can roll. Okay, let's get it down the alley. Strike.
Ronnie Chieng
Buff that dark egg. So she checks in with Joao. She's like, are you okay? And he's like, that was a big clusterism. I said this about sleeping in a bed you guys have made for charter. I said, I'm standing up for all the women who have burned their bras for decades to not have to remake beds in the morning. And we are going to be a team and respect each other. And then he tore up the bed and he said, well, now it's not made and the girls can make it in the morning. And then he said, do you think you need a stewardess or a chef?
Ben Mandelker
Oh, there we fucking go. Fucking brilliant ego, you know, Fucking selfish behavior.
Ronnie Chieng
We spent a lot of times getting those beds ready for charter, and now we have to redo all of that work. I mean, look, to be fair, Daisy, it's making a bed. Like, you're gonna remake the bed.
Ben Mandelker
You know what? It is making a bed, but it's also. Oh, it's making a bed. It's like. It's just. It's that one thing. It's like that. It's like 10 minutes sometimes you just. That's like 10 minutes. You don't get to just put your feet up. You know, it's all true. Yeah. And sometimes that tends to matters.
Ronnie Chieng
Beds.
Ben Mandelker
It's like one thing to tidy up your bed. It's another. They have to, like. Do they have to hang out? They have to deal with the fitted sheet. And, like, dealing with a fitted sheet is like just dealing with the worst person in the office.
Ronnie Chieng
So they have like, the worst person
Ben Mandelker
in the office, the close talker who just had a tuna sandwich, and you're like, I don't want to have to do this right now. I just want to go back to my desk so I could check the confession. These are my confessions.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. Because it's like, to deal with a person version of a fitted sheet is like a lot of manhandling. I feel like that's how Gary deals with people, like, fitted sheets. Like, ah, come.
Ben Mandelker
No, I feel like that's how the fit. No, that's how the fitted sheet feels about us. The fitted sheet feels about.
Ronnie Chieng
About.
Ben Mandelker
I think the fitted sheet. The fitted sheet. It's like, here's this thing that theoretically, it. It's supposed to fit on a mattress. So things that fit, usually it's an easy thing. You just put it on. You think it's like putting on a hat, like a shower cap, you just put it on. But no, it's never that easy, is it? Going this way or that way, and it's getting all scrunched up. And then this one's. And then you put like, one corner on, another one pops up. It's like it's not making your life easy. And you're like, all I wanted. All I wanted right now was to be doing anything else than dealing with this fitted sheet.
Ronnie Chieng
That's true. You know, that's a good point.
Ben Mandelker
That's all.
Ronnie Chieng
Although I will say, you know, I complain about aging and stuff and, like, what it's done to My brain, my wiener, my body, my hair, everything else. But one thing it has done. It has given me the ability to work with a fitted sheet. I'm actually able now to just throw the fitted sheet on and it's like the corners go. I haven't up a fitted sheet in like at least two years.
Ben Mandelker
You'll be like Marty Suprema fitted sheets or something.
Ronnie Chieng
Oh, I hated that.
Ben Mandelker
I didn't see it.
Ronnie Chieng
God, what was that movie? Why did they make anyway, that. I hated that. Like, it made me mad.
Ben Mandelker
I really. I had something here. I will say I did. There was like a period of time, probably, I think it was like 2011 or 12. I became determined to be able to fold a fitted sheet nicely.
Ronnie Chieng
No, no, I don't fold them. I don't think you're supposed to fold a fitted.
Ben Mandelker
Well, here's the thing. You remember our friend Angie, the, the, of course, the, you know, blonde Angie. There was one stuff. No, not Angie, the chef Angie, the, The model.
Ronnie Chieng
Oh, yes. Oh, yes, yes.
Ben Mandelker
He lived in the nightmare. She literally lived in the Nightmare on Elm street house in Los Angeles, which was great. She one time was like, oh, you don't know how to fold a fitted sheet. I can do it with just like two hands. Just, you know, like, like, she's like, I could just do it like standing up.
Ronnie Chieng
And.
Ben Mandelker
And I felt like a challenge to me. I was like, I've got like. She made it seem like everyone knows how to fold a fitted sheet. Like, once you reach a certain point in life, you just know how to do it. So I, I sat there and I, like, I practiced and I learned and I actually, I actually made a YouTube video back in like 2011 or 12 on how to fit fold a fitted sheet, which is hilarious. You can look, um, but. But that, with that method, I like, laid it out on, on a bed and I did this thing and then Andrew was like, oh, no, you don't have to lay it out on the bed. I was like, really? She's like, yeah, you could just do it in your hands. Now part of me wonders, was she bullshitting? But I, I learned how to do it. I learned how to do it and it does not serve me well at all. Like, that was a waste of my time because, like, everyone's always. Everyone has your response. Just bunch it up. Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
I mean, it kind of straightens itself out because it's stretchy, but I do have a very ring.
Ben Mandelker
The point is, fitted sheets are a pain in the ass. And now Ben has, has caused the staff to have to engage with them yet again. And I think that is a crime against humanity.
Ronnie Chieng
You're right. I shouldn't say it's just a bed.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Remake the bed. That's not cool to say, you know? But part of me is like, just make the bed. Like, I don't know. It's in my. It's in my heart to feel like that.
Ben Mandelker
Have you ever.
Ronnie Chieng
Because I have to tell myself all the time, like, ronnie, it's just a fucking bed. You don't have to cry every single week when you change your sheets.
Ben Mandelker
Here's a question.
Ronnie Chieng
And I do. Like, I'll literally cry. I'll stay in bed an extra two hours because I'm like, it's the day to change the sheets. I don't want to change the sheets. And I have to be like, ronnie, it's a sheet. Like, get up and change the sheets. You don't even have to do the duvet today. Just do the sheets. And I still. It upsets me. So when I see her doing it, I'm like, just do the. It's like I'm projecting.
Ben Mandelker
You're a project. Yeah. I'm about to say, have you ever made, like, a sandwich? And then, like, has your, like, sister or your niece been there? But, like, oh, can I have a sandwich also? And then you're, like, just about to eat your sandwich and, like, got to make another sandwich.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, yeah, that's like a. That's a lot more prep.
Ben Mandelker
But it's like. It's annoying, right? And that's what this is. It's like, it's not hard to make a sandwich.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, and also, you're not a person who should even be eating the sandwich. You're. You're an employee. You should go back to the fucking guest cabins like everybody else. You should have to hear Eddie jerking it every night just like anyone else would. Yeah, it's not in that terrible mustached idiot's room.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, come, stained mustache. Okay, so I was jerking off with a mustache.
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Ronnie Chieng
Well, if you want to put our friendship on the line, it's not my choice. It is. At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And we're here to do a job. And if you're going to be the head of the Zim, you must act like the head of the Zimmerman. Well, next time he goes and makes dinner for the Charger guests, I'll go in and eat that. Just tell him to remake it. He's like, well, you guys kind of do that sometimes.
Ben Mandelker
Well, this is the turning point. That friendship is gone because he made it personal.
Ronnie Chieng
Oh, geez. Such a drama queen, too. Calm it down.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I'm glad you took a stance tonight. Enough is enough. I'm going to bed.
Ronnie Chieng
So Alicia at the hot tub is like, you know what, Jenna? You want to fight him? I'll fight him with you and say, I'm fighting the whole guy. I don't give a.
Ben Mandelker
So then Joao and Daisy are cuddling. They're going to the cabin, and he's like, cuddles will make you sleep well. Oh, that's sweet. Tell me something. Do you like the smell of cigarettes? Do you like a little spoon that smells of Marlboro Lights?
Ronnie Chieng
Do you like the. The smell of old Zim and flop sweat smell?
Ben Mandelker
I do.
Ronnie Chieng
Perfect. Let's get together. I think this is also why I have lowered my pity levels for the bed remaking, because Daisy is still trying to make me feel like she has feelings for Joao, and I just. I just feel so lied to. And I'm like, stop treating me like a idiot, okay? I mean, I am an idiot, but I can tell you guys, even. Even me, even. I can tell this is just. Stop.
Ben Mandelker
So Barbie goes, tells Ellie. She's like, oh, my God, this boat needs help. Ben went into the cabin and pulled off the duvet, which is my favorite piece of gossip I've heard in a long time. Did you hear Ben pulled off the duvet?
Ronnie Chieng
Hospitalize that man.
Ben Mandelker
What? Wait, you already made it for the guests. Oh, no. He's like, yeah, it just sucks because we've been busting our asses all day, and we have, like, charter tomorrow. Oh, no, no, No, I would have
Ronnie Chieng
been pissed as well.
Ben Mandelker
I was surpr. Ellie was actually sort of sympathetic. I guess it's because Barbie said it, because I kind of assumed Ellie. Ellie is very much like, I am team Galley now. Like. Like everyone else can die. You know, Ellie's.
Ronnie Chieng
You know, the good thing about Ellie, if Ellie was playing football, she'd be running one way, and then she'd grab that ball and just start running the other way. Like, she can go on any team she wants.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. You know, she's a mercenary.
Ronnie Chieng
She doesn't really care.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. So very. Gamblers switch teams. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
So Ben. Ben Tattletales. Because, you know, as I said, as Joao walked away, he was like the little kid who just got smacked on the head by a bully. And he's very much like, I'm talking to the teacher now. We'll see how you like that when your parents are dragged in here for parent teacher conference. My nanny sure didn't like it, I'll tell you that.
Ben Mandelker
I'm sensitive now.
Ronnie Chieng
So he tattletales and he texts Jason. He's like, hey, Jason. Just letting you know that Daisy tried to come that day tonight. So I put myself in a guest bedroom to stay out of the situation.
Ben Mandelker
And actually, I feel like what was. What was rough was that we didn't really, like, go back and see that. Daisy said, I'd like to talk with you. And he said, no, Daisy, not tonight. It's not happening tonight. We'll talk tomorrow. Go off. He, like, said that to her, and he's Be like, oh, she came at me like this. That is actually such. And then he's gonna.
Ronnie Chieng
And.
Ben Mandelker
And because he's getting.
Ronnie Chieng
He's.
Ben Mandelker
He's creating the narrative so that. The narrative is. That could be. Daisy's crazy. I mean, Daisy was going to confront him, but literally all she said was, can we talk? And he literally dismissed her so condescendingly and rudely, and then he's gonna act like he was the one who was the victim.
Ronnie Chieng
I mean, she did come at him, but she. He start. I mean, he started it by being rude to her, and then she came at him.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Ronnie Chieng
Daisy will come at, like, everybody. Like, Daisy would work at a puppy. A puppy farm, and be like, oh, you. You little tiny puppy. Get the out of here. I mean, the puppies would be terrified. But then they just realize, you know, that's just Daisy. And then they follow her anyway.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, Daisy working at a puppy farm. Suckers is very funny to Me? Puppy farms are not great. So then. But Joao also tattles. That's the thing is dual tattling, Joe. I was like, well, capital. I confronted Ben about sleeping in an already made guest zim, and it didn't go well. So we should talk tomorrow.
Ronnie Chieng
And we see Jason, we hear Jason receives the text, and we just hear him behind the door going, oh, my God. Because listen, what have you guys not learned about. Have you met Jason? Jason does not want to do any of this, okay? Jason is playing wordle like he does not want to deal with your asses.
Ben Mandelker
That's generous. That's generous. He's playing wordle.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, I guess he wouldn't be playing wordle.
Ben Mandelker
I don't know what game Jason would play. He probably.
Ronnie Chieng
I feel like Jason just goes into his room and just kind of like stares at a wall and just turns off like a robot.
Ben Mandelker
I feel like he reads like master and commander or something like that. Just sits there, reads it like something over and over again. He's like.
Ronnie Chieng
He's like a Moby Dick kind of a guy. He's like, just like, oh, God damn that whale. You'll get him one day. Persistence is k. He's just never finished. So just keep going. It'll get that whale.
Ben Mandelker
Maybe reads. Choose your own adventure.
Ronnie Chieng
He just has such a blank look in his eyes, you know? You know how the eyes are a window to a person's soul? Like, you look into his eyes and it's just. There's just nothing there. I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
Well, you get that look.
Ronnie Chieng
Anything in there?
Ben Mandelker
No, no, I was not.
Ronnie Chieng
Because that's probably accurate.
Ben Mandelker
No, no, not you. I was saying you get that look when. When you're chasing the whale for your whole life.
Ronnie Chieng
Oh, that's true.
Ben Mandelker
You know, Call me Ishmael. Call me Jason.
Ronnie Chieng
Call me Jason.
Ben Mandelker
I just want to put a kimono on a whale one day. That whale smells like sandalwood.
Ronnie Chieng
So now it's the next morning, five hours till charter, and.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Oh, my God. I can't believe we're picking up charter today. So much drama. Last night she kisses you out. Then we go to Alicia and Batul, and she's like, well, you did the right thing going to bed again last night. It turned into chaos.
Ben Mandelker
Daisy then is like telling the girls to check the cabins, especially the one that Bun slapped on. And then Jason. Jason goes over to Ben's. Ben's. His. The room that Ben crashed in, Squatted in. He's like, good morning. What happened? He's like, well, at Dinner. She yelled at me and said, also, I was awoken. They were just sniffing around for drama. And in my opinion, you literally caused the drama and people were reacting to you. Also, I wish they had shown when he said, I was awoken. I wish they shown him doing his little kangaroo boxing when he got startled awake with his little fist going, oh, yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
So I used to wake up. Everybody was terrified of waking me up. I was vicious, I was violent.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I'm pretty docile. But there was one time where Dom woke me up and I did a spider man thing. I was like, that's. He was like, whoa. It was the most random thing.
Ronnie Chieng
So he's like, yeah, they were sniffing around for drama. And it's in my opinion. All right, let's get this sheet off. You can see why they got riled up, right? Because they've got a 24 hour turnover and you're sleeping in the bed. All right, just cop it on the chin. All right.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, okay. And by cupboard on the chin. I won't do that at all. It's like, all right, I'm gonna get all sides of the story. So let me get to the bottom of this. And then when I get to the bottom of it, I'm probably gonna take a nip.
Ronnie Chieng
All right, let me get to the bottom of this. The bottom of a bag of peanut M M's. All right, I'm gonna take care of this. Now, I don't like this because Ben was clearly put in his place, which was so funny.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Because with anybody else, Ben will not be put in his place. But like, the daddy figure comes in, he's like, cop it on the chain. He's like, okay. And then the rest of the episode, he's like, I was wrong. I'm sorry.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, the captain was doing the. Was doing the sheets with him. Well, I guess they just took the sheets off. But still, either way, it's like you. The captain came in and had to tend to this. Like, that's bad.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
You know.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, you were worried that Eddie was cut out of the episode. I know. You missed him. And he was in here. They have a scene of Eddie right now. It's Eddie's big finale scene. Eddie farts in the laundry room. Great one.
Ben Mandelker
That's exactly what you need to do with fresh laundry is farting it. Great, thank you. So then now Jason Joao around the bridge. And Jason's like, so what happened last night? You've got three seconds before I got stopped. My nip. It's like, well, he went and slept in the guest zimmen that was already made. And the girls worked hard enough to get it. Last chatter for the last shutter. And, you know, I opened the door and I got bent up and he blew up at me.
Ronnie Chieng
Was it threatening? Was it unsafe? It's like, how bad is this?
Ben Mandelker
Okay, Is this like the.
Ronnie Chieng
Do I need to do something?
Ben Mandelker
I checked with Claude AI on what? The questions you're supposed to ask in an HR type situation. So please bear with me. Was it threatening? Was it unsafe? And. Oh, what's this one here? Oh, my goodness. I am so, so sorry. I didn't understand what you meant by that. I will check that again. Give me one moment. I apologize deeply. You don't have to read everything but the AI But Google did that to me. Last night I looked up a question. I was like, how do you make the cursor go to this part in the final Cut pro thing? And it was like, just press Command J. And I was like, that didn't work. It goes. I am so, so, so sorry. Oh, my God, you're so right. When I told you Command J, that was for a totally different application. The real key is command arrow. I am so sorry. AI is so embarrassed all the time.
Ronnie Chieng
Got told off by mine the other day.
Ben Mandelker
Really?
Ronnie Chieng
Because I was in the car and we have all of our. I have all of our music for this thing on a playlist called Forbidden Housewives, because that's the name of the show. So if you say, hey, Claire, or whatever, Sue. Hey, sue, play Forbidden Housewives. And normally she'll play it, but the other day in the car, I don't know, like, was I drunk? I mean, I wasn't. I was driving. But I was like, hey, sue, play Forbidden Housewives. And she's like, forbidden, bye. Blah, blah. And the song comes on, it's like, no, no, no. Play Forbidden Housewife. She's like, Forbidden love. Bye. They're all like heavy metal songs. I'm like, sue, I did it one more time. And she got some other forbidden bullshit. And I finally went, sue, you stupid. Cut. Finish, God damn it. That is not necessary to speak to me. I'm like. She started telling me off. Excuse me.
Ben Mandelker
I'm doing the best that I can, you know? Like, I get a little confused sometimes, and I just try to get songs I think you would like.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, no kidding. She's like, excuse me, sorry for trying to broaden your horizons, you know, but if you need something to do on your time off. The rain in Spain falls gently in the plane. Okay, let's work on our addiction.
Ben Mandelker
Ok?
Ronnie Chieng
I'm not a miracle worker here.
Ben Mandelker
Yes, she's a difficult one. So Joao says, no, it was not threatening, unsafe. But he broke the bed up and you know, like. Well, you know, it's like he said, now it's not made. Do you want a chef tomorrow? Do you want a stewardess tomorrow? So now we see Daisy talking.
Ronnie Chieng
Jason just stares blankly like.
Ben Mandelker
Like.
Ronnie Chieng
That is actually quite a riddle.
Ben Mandelker
I'm going to get to the bottom of this. Like, like many people have said to our charter primary, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this.
Ronnie Chieng
So now Jason and Daisy are in the bridge and she's like, I was pissed, but I knew what the consequences would be. I'd already had a bust up with that Ben at dinner. He's like, good to know. Was it threatening or unsafe? Nah. Yeah, you can't have a reasonable conversation. Who cares? He's like, well, I'm gonna get everyone together. Oh, geez.
Ben Mandelker
To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement. Mainly that I haven't found Moby Dick about this stuff. I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention to what they were saying. A lot of peanut M M's to get through going to the final charter. Personalities are being tested, but the experienced and mature individuals and we can't afford them to clash. So we're supposed to be blowing it out of the park. This is unacceptable.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, what, Bandit? I'll tell you this. Everyone is super upset about it. Nobody can go on with their day. Everyone's walking around saying, did you see the unmade bat? Did I say the unmade. It's like ground zero up there.
Ben Mandelker
I know. She's acting like it's all the people watching, watching, you know, buildings burn after Independence Day.
Ronnie Chieng
Yes.
Ben Mandelker
So there's more cleaning that's happening. And in the galley, Ben sees. Ellie's a good morning. How are you, sunshine? I guess sunshine's acceptable. Sorry I had to take myself away last night.
Ronnie Chieng
Oh, yes.
Ben Mandelker
I left shortly after and went to bed.
Ronnie Chieng
I was like, I am done with
Ben Mandelker
this, you know, sous chef humor. Hint, hint.
Ronnie Chieng
But then it got worse, didn't it? I went to the master cabin, I locked the door, and Chihuahua found the keys. I mean, just stay out of it. If you're my friend, stay out of it. Well, I mean, you and I would
Ben Mandelker
have been pissed as well if we
Ronnie Chieng
had, like, prepped the galley for a
Ben Mandelker
charter and somebody came in here and couldn't let all their. He's like, please don't use logic on me.
Ronnie Chieng
You will no longer be getting a raise. You will no longer get a promotion.
Ben Mandelker
Like, I wouldn't have thought of World War II over it. I'm like, you, literally. Daisy said to you, Crew, lunch at 11. And you spent the rest of the charter undermining her by making her debone red snappers at the table. So the answer is yes, you would have.
Ronnie Chieng
You would have started the war. I mean, you went and tattletale to the captain. What is that if it's not starting a war?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, exactly.
Ronnie Chieng
Now it's time for me get back to work. That is a beam. So Jason radios the heads of department to meet on the upper deck. Now. Now, we have to clean up this mess or I've had to talk to all of you, or. I feel like I'm across what happened. All right, so what. Whatever was going on last night, he pulled himself out and he pulled himself in a room. That is unacceptable. Now, I've got one question for you. Was it unsafe or traumatic for anybody here?
Ben Mandelker
He's like, oh, I've listened to everyone. I'm gonna say my piece. I'm gonna say a lot of things right now that really mean nothing, but it's okay, Truly.
Ronnie Chieng
Look at how long this paragraph is.
Ben Mandelker
It's so.
Ronnie Chieng
I don't remember being Vagina Monologues. What the Are you talking. I've never heard this man talk this much in his whole life.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I. I was not. I did not think he would say that. He's like, do you remember where we were at the start of this? When we all came together and we said this would be the nucleus? And for those keeping track, that's the second time the Nucleus has been said on Bravo in the past 48 hours. The first time, strangely enough, Kelsey from Real Housewives of Rhode island when she said, this is the nucleus of the problem. Who'd have thought Nucleus is the buzzword on Bravo? Anyway, I'm getting. Getting lost here. The lack of accountability, miscommunication, missing whales, egos, peanut M M's. We've got to get past this, okay? We gotta be big and listen, this
Ronnie Chieng
from the mouth of the King. Can't we just all get along? Excuse me, I believe that was Rodney King. Whatever. Point is.
Ben Mandelker
The point is the same.
Ronnie Chieng
Can we just get along? I do not like having to come out here and say so many words. Did anybody know what the fuck I was just talking about, or. I have a very important question for everybody. Would you rather have a Chief Stew or a Chef. All right, Think on that. I can't get to the answer.
Ben Mandelker
It's the philosophical question of the day. We've got a big charter coming up. Up. We got a fussy gay and a man who only eats pizza. So get ready for it. All right? I want us all. I want to show experience in professionalism, all right? And I don't want any of this passive aggressive behavior. Just, I want absolute unity. Can we do U, N, I, t, Y?
Ronnie Chieng
There is no u in unity. Actually, there is, Captain. Well, there's no I in unity. There is. There is, Captain. There is no s in unity. That's a good one.
Ben Mandelker
Very good one. That's true. Unless you were trying to say sunity, which isn't a real word, but if you were trying to say it, there would have been an S. Just saying. I just like to think about. I like to anticipate things.
Ronnie Chieng
Now, listen, you've got a lot of hatred towards each other right now I want us to all focus our hatred on the most obnoxious gay human being to ever walk the earth because he's about to come on this boat. Surely that'll bring us all together.
Ben Mandelker
All right? I do feel inspired by that. Knowing that there'll be someone worse than all of us coming on this boat makes me realize we have to pull up.
Ronnie Chieng
After you meet this guy, you will want to pull off the fitted sheets yourself and strangle him with it. Right? Let's get back to work.
Ben Mandelker
So Ben's. So Ben. And by the way, Then Jason's like, by the way, one last parting shot. Let's dig deep. And by the way, don't, don't. You were wrong, Ben. You shouldn't have done that thing. So Ben's like, I don't like Jason being snappy with me. I obviously let him down in some capacity. So I take this to heart. I take it personally. Just as I did when my fiance
Ronnie Chieng
left me before the wedding. I paid for our wedding without never having gone to wedding.
Ben Mandelker
I take things personally.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm sensitive now. What a shocker. I've been betrayed by Captain Jason. Just the latest in a long stream of betrayals.
Ben Mandelker
Hey, bud. So I'm sorry I did it like that, but in Zimbabwe, it's a custom to unlock people's doors and say, get
Ronnie Chieng
out of that bed.
Ben Mandelker
So you can understand where I was coming from.
Ronnie Chieng
Sometimes it's the only way to get the water bay bill. The water bill bed. When I screwed up, I'd just been in a deep sleep. What I was trying to do was Avoid drama. It's like, why I took the room I wasn't supposed to, locked myself in, and then took all the sheets off the bed,
Ben Mandelker
you know? But that's where it all came from. Well, whatever happens, I still want us to keep our friendship. Like I said to Ellie, can we just still be friends? Because I love you, man. I do. I love you, Zim.
Ronnie Chieng
The end of the day, you really need to remember, it's hims before Zims. Are you sure that's not the other way around? Which one has boobies? All right, all right. I love you. All right. I was just apprehensive going into this because I thought, wow, what a prick he is, you know, this morning. And that's the first thing on my mind. But thank God you're back. You're back on the right side. So they hug and they make up, and then Jenna walks back and say.
Ben Mandelker
And then Jenna and Eddie are in the main salon. He's like, how are you this morning? I'm good. I'm not sure I understood what you said, but it seems like it was said in a happy way.
Ronnie Chieng
I will marry you. Now I'm just standing.
Ben Mandelker
You're trying to get strep throat.
Ronnie Chieng
No straps. Straps. All straps. Picnic on the beach.
Ben Mandelker
The barn up on the hillside's on fire. What are you trying to say to me?
Ronnie Chieng
So now Daisy asked Alicia. She's doing okay after their big talk last night, where she had to be like, you're not the second stew because you're a. Okay, but I still love you. Go back. Go back to your little life of mediocrity, my love.
Ben Mandelker
Right. And then Daisy is like, you know, I just wanted to let you know it's not that you don't have potential. You're just a. You're a huge asset to the team. The sort of asset that you say, this asset doesn't have potential, but she's sort of helpful right now in a way that's not really that helpful. You know what I'm trying to say, Alicia? I do. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.
Ronnie Chieng
Let me tell you, asset wouldn't even be a word without ass. And you are one. So we thank you for that, and so does the English language.
Ben Mandelker
But I have a question.
Ronnie Chieng
What?
Ben Mandelker
You still haven't told me where.
Ronnie Chieng
Where.
Ben Mandelker
What do you keep saying? I sit. But where do you sit?
Ronnie Chieng
No.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, God, Alicia. Okay, you're. You're more hopeless than I ever thought.
Ronnie Chieng
So Alicia's like, oh, my God, thank you. Thank you for being so understanding. I'M just gonna get toilet paper for every room. Okay, well, you know, go on. Go on. Earn them second stripes, girl.
Ben Mandelker
You know, at the beginning of this season, my mother said, don't bother going to culinary school, because you won't make it. And I thought, I could be a chef. I could make something in my life. But now I realize this is my path in life, saying, I'm just gonna go put toilet paper in rooms now. Thank you, mama, for putting me on the right path.
Ronnie Chieng
Whatever works for you. Just get the fuck out of my face. So now we go to the galley, and they go to. He goes to Daisy's cabin, and he's like, oh, look at the name on your door. Sorry. That's Daisy. He's like, I'm surprised. I'm surprised that the on your door. I'm surprised it doesn't say Daisy, Queen of Sheba up there.
Ben Mandelker
I'm working on it right now. They just say I'm the queen of Parliament. You know what I'm saying? And Ben is like, well, I'm sorry that I slept about Gus coming last night. Thank you. I appreciate that. I didn't want to turn anything south. I just wanted to remove myself. This is the. The new version of the stories. I just wanted to remove myself. Well, I appreciate the apology, because I know it's not easy to say sorry, especially to the Queen of Sheba herself, but I'm sure you're aware of how much of a fuck you it is to the girls and their hard work, and they were really upset, and rightly so, and I see how hard you work, but there's an essence of, like, I don't really respect the crew.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm sorry.
Ben Mandelker
I wasn't listening to any of that monologue because you're just a girl.
Ronnie Chieng
Queen of Sheba. What a babe. All right. God, no one really gives her enough credit in this world. When do you go to Halloween and see people dressed up as the queen of Shiva?
Ben Mandelker
Clean of Sheba? More like the queen if she doesn't shut up.
Ronnie Chieng
You know, sometimes I don't look at other people's views. I'm selfish sometimes. I know that. You don't mind if I take your pillow. What is this Down. This is actually very, very nice. All right.
Ben Mandelker
Do you like the smell of pomade on your pillow? Because I'm about to.
Ronnie Chieng
All right, Leslie, this was a good talk.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, I'll see you later.
Ronnie Chieng
Just want you to know I've got respect for you. All right. Tits.
Ben Mandelker
You know, she's like, look, and last night, I want to talk to you about. You know, you've been giving these. Given these who challenges with Ellie and her egos massively inflated and she does my fucking knot in.
Ronnie Chieng
She does my nut in.
Ben Mandelker
God, we gotta go back to Ireland.
Ronnie Chieng
She does my fucking.
Ben Mandelker
She does my fucking knot in.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, she's a tough one, but she's making really good headway in the galley. She's doing things that are almost sous chef and she's given me 60 off of romance only fans.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I also overheard you asking Jason about promoting her, but I don't know your decision is going to be. But like the way that she has behaved this season. She's lucky to have a job.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, you know, she's come a long way. She's a very skilled worker. But Daisy's right. There's a reason she's come so far and it's because she was a bloody disgrace. So an elevated title could. Could give her a nuclear bomb.
Ben Mandelker
You are my friend and I want you to know that I like you a lot for the next 10 minutes until I yard you again.
Ronnie Chieng
Ah, you're my friend too. Despite what I might say and the anger meant. Etc. So Jacqueline, great knowing. Let's stay together. Stay fine.
Ben Mandelker
She doesn't even know my name. Queen of Sheba says to you.
Ronnie Chieng
So then Joao comes out of the bath. Joao comes out of the bath this entire time. Well, what the hell?
Ben Mandelker
He's like, Ellie's in there too.
Ronnie Chieng
So now they. Everybody hugs it out now. Now they're all fine. It's nice.
Ben Mandelker
Everything's great. Everything. Like heads of department. More like heads of friendship.
Ronnie Chieng
I mean just two seconds ago, Joel's like, I can never be friends with someone like that. Everyone can't take my friendship and burn it. I will never trust somebody like that again. How dare he treat the seat fitting women this way. Can we be best friends again?
Ben Mandelker
I just want to protect our friendship. He's like, wait a second. I just realized I'll never get another lemon meringue cheesecake if I. If I stop being friends with Ben. So Ben then goes and apologizes to Alicia. I said it's okay. And then Betula's meanwhile Eddie are on deck and she's like, I don't know why I'm feeling so happy. I'm so happy. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. It's like batul. Could you please stop scratching at the side of the wall there? Commercials. Here comes one right now. Summer always changes how I'd get dressed. I want pieces that Feel lighter and more breathable. Things that are easy but still pull together.
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Ronnie Chieng
So le sees Banished. Like, what happened? I was working so hard last charter to prove myself and I thought I was going to end the season as a sous chef, but I guess that's not happening.
Ben Mandelker
Am I a sous chef?
Ronnie Chieng
Questionable.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, no. Well, okay. Well, I'm glad that you brought it up. Let's. Let's talk about that when we crush the season. Okay? We still have work to do and I think that we both have to prove ourselves and I'm just gonna put myself in the walk in freezer. You just close the door and you just find me as a frozen corpse. I guess that's how this is. I just don't want to have this conversation.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, I have been proving myself. I have been. Well, I know you have. So now she's like, oh, what the fuck is going on? First he dangles promotion in front of my face. Now you've given tasks to complete. To prove myself, I have rolled ham. I've rolled ham into little tubes. Why do I not have promotion?
Ben Mandelker
I thought people the virtues of eating soap with your eggs. Cleans out the system quite literally. I mean, actually, I kind of think she has a point here in the sense that. Not that she deserves a promotion, but, like, you can't tell someone. I think we're gonna. I'm gonna promote you. Oh, sorry. I'm not gonna promote you. Like, that's. That's just like, with someone. And that was. That was poor on his part. He should never have said something until he knew.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, that's true. But also, everybody on this show is like, where's my promotion? You worked here for six weeks, and you've all kind of sucked in your own way, so stop with that.
Ben Mandelker
They really have. So 15 minutes until guest arrival. And here we go, Brandon for his, like, 10th tour of duty on Below Deck with Carmen and their friends. And so they arrive. Brandon's like, hi, Queen. And they've also got this guy with them. I forgot his name, but we'll see what his name is soon. But his like, hey, I'm from New York. I'm from New York. I'm a simple guy.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm from New York. Really picky palette. I'm from New York. New York. That's what. That's how we are.
Ben Mandelker
Forget about it. Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. He's.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, how did he.
Ronnie Chieng
A lot.
Ben Mandelker
How did these two get combined?
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, I'm not really sure. When Brandon, I think, was like, you know what? As the most obnoxious gay person on the planet, I'm gonna travel with the most obnoxious straight person on the planet. We're just gonna see. It's gonna be a battle to the obnoxious death.
Ben Mandelker
So a few weeks ago, Daisy and her podcast partner Mark were on our show, and we were just, like, talking about Blow Deck, and we asked Daisy what is going on with some of these charters, because it seems like the people don't even know each other. Does casting put them together? She's. And she said, it's not that casting puts groups together. It's that a lot of times it's hard to find people to come on the boats with. With the primaries. And so because, like, it's during a work week or it's during. It's, like, expensive or, like, people are not available. So they wind up. People wind up start going. You know, they invite their friends who can't make it and their friends. Friends. And they just start. Start to reach out to these, like, people.
Ronnie Chieng
Like, at the end of your face,
Ben Mandelker
you're like, you're going as deep. And then maybe someone says, oh, I've. You know, something so. And so. So it's just. It's like people wind up with whatever, like, jetsam and flotsam they can find off of their friend lists.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. So Ben comes up to Brandon to discuss lunch, and he's like, all right, well, I saw on your preference sheet you had seafood extravaganza. Said, you still want seafood, don't you? He's. And he's like, oh, yeah. I'm so into that seafood. I mean, does it swim? Put it on the plate. Love it. Seafood, yes. Any kind of seafood. Just put. Put seafood on the plate. Okay. I see food, I eat it. That's my diet.
Ben Mandelker
Seafood, seafood, Seafood. Okay. And I literally. If you could arrange it in the shape of a sea, that'd be great. Just like, as. As long as it's nothing but sea food. So then Patrick, who's the New Yorker's, like, yeah, I'm a finicky eater. Forget about it. Because I'm a New Yorker. So I say, forget about it. You know, I'm one of these, like, I'm the easiest guy to please. Right? Okay. Like, I like Honey Nut, Cheerios, Captain Crunch. You know, like, not really a big seafood. You know, just give me, like, pizza, burgers, cheese, meat, and bread. Like, I'm easy, guys.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. And Ben goes, ketchup. I like ketchup. And he's like, no, no, not ketchup. No, no, don't do ketchup. Like, okay. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
At this point, you need to get yourself evaluated. I'm sorry.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. At some point, there's a problem.
Ben Mandelker
There is a problem there. Yes. I'm sorry. Like, it's. It's okay to have, like, a limited palette, but this is beyond limited.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm just a plain Jane. Forget about it. So it's not a limited palette. You know, there's like.
Ben Mandelker
It's a control issue.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. It's like, there's a difference between having a limited palette and just a limited, you know, outlook. Like, these just. So these are limited people, you know,
Ben Mandelker
they are limited people. They. They are, you know, yesterday. So we're here in New York City. And one of the coffee shops that's here in the city that seems to be everywhere, but I've never gone to it before was Gregory's coffee. Have you seen those around with, like, the Gulf? The guy with the glasses, I saw
Ronnie Chieng
you drinking it yesterday, and I see you've got a Starbucks today. So in other words, hey, Gregory, suck my dick, all right? Forgot about. I'm from New York. Your coffee, all right, you guys suck. Gregory, he gave it up already. What was it they do? What, do you put ketchup in your coffee?
Ben Mandelker
Well, actually, also, the Starbucks was, like, a little bit more convenient to get to the subway. The Starbucks was more on the way.
Ronnie Chieng
But I will say Gregory is notoriously inconvenient.
Ben Mandelker
It was across the street. And so not having to cross the street, it's like making a bed again, you know?
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. So what about Gregory's? I'm sorry. Well.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I decided I attempted to be sort of healthy. So yesterday I got Gregory's. They have a sandwich called, like, the Skinny, which is, like, egg white turkey bacon, which I don't know why I do this to myself, because.
Ronnie Chieng
Gregory, die in your sleep.
Ben Mandelker
Never, never in the history of any of these coffee shop chains has this, the quote unquote skinny version ever. Being in Starbucks, it's garbage. Their version as well. It's like eating cardboard. And then their sriracha was awful. It was like everything. It was like, really one of the worst breakfast sandwiches I ever had in my entire life. I was like, you should not be selling this. But I was hungry, and I ate it. And I think the point is that I'm trying to make here is that you can get through it. Like, if there's something you really, really like, if you can get through it, if something you don't really like, love, you can get through it, you know? And so for this guy to be
Ronnie Chieng
like, I tell people when they date me,
Ben Mandelker
look, I survived Gregory's wretched breakfast sandwich. So what I'm trying to say is that this guy can deal with, like, some of this food. I'm not saying, like, oh, if you don't like fish, that's like a big category. Like, that's like a. That's that's intense, you know? But, like, a lot of the stuff he's like, I can't even have that. It's like, bro, you probably could just try.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, I just can't be around people like that who are just like, nah, you know what? I'm finicky. All I'm gonna eat is a Captain Crunch. What was that fit? I ain't eating that. What is that, a steak? Not for me. I'm a potato guy. Go home. You're a luxury guy. Just don't. Here. Don't go to dinner. Just stay. If you're. If you're such a weirdo, you can't be around us normies eating. You know, you can't just be around a normal person. Stay home.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
You know, just.
Ben Mandelker
I also feel like, you know, like, vegans got so much about the fact that, like, oh, whenever vegans eat food, it's always like, well, I'm a vegan. I'm a vegan. And people always make fun of vegans for, like, you know, oh, my God. Vegans are always drawing attention to themselves. Oh, my God. It's always about their veganism. But the truth is, if we're going to make fun of vegan vegans for that, we should also make fun of people like this guy. Because when. When people are, like, super finicky, everything becomes about them being finicky. Every single thing. And all. Everything they talk about is like, oh, no, what a hot dog. That's a bit too crazy for me. I'm like, okay, like, I get it. You don't know how to eat food.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, you're. I think you're right that it's a control issue. Like, people need to kind of set themselves apart from everybody else to not just be another normal person. And, you know, some of us. I also think it's like, I'm seeing show tunes when we're not asked to in the middle of grocery stores, and some of us, you know, pick eating things. I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I don't know, but this guy should go into therapy, so I should,
Ronnie Chieng
like, go away, like.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but it's like, it is also
Ronnie Chieng
don't even go to therapy. Like, you're just gonna find better ways to, like, be an out. Like, nicer, like, more palatable ways to be an.
Ben Mandelker
Don't you want to, like, expand your boundaries, too? Like, don't you want to. Want to expand like. Like, okay, you don't normally eat this, but, like, try it. See how it is.
Ronnie Chieng
That's true. And aren't you embarrassed?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Not only him, but. But Brandon, too, because we'll get into him in a minute. But are you embarrassed to go on a luxury yacht and be acting. Oh, my God, we're so fancy. Like, we're the fanciest. But you guys better please us because we are, like, rich and we are fancy and Then to see, like, a fish, like, beautifully laid out, and to be like, ew, I wouldn't eat that. Give me chicken fingers. Like, aren't you embarrassed? Like, yeah. In one hand, you're trying to make yourself seem fancier than you are, but in the other hand, like, you're trying to be trashier than you are. Like, it's a personality trait. I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
It's a weird question. Yeah, I just feel like. Especially just being on camera, like, you know, like, for me, I famously really hate berries. Like, blueberries, strawberries, raspberries. I'm getting better at eating them, but, like, still, like. Like, I really hate. Like, I hate them. Like. Like, the smell of berries makes me want to, like, literally actively throw up all the time. But I've started to realize that, like, I can still eat a berry and it's not the end of the world. I just feel like people, like, just be. Just, like, push through, push through. Be curious about something, you know?
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, be curious.
Ben Mandelker
You guys be curious. This guy's really gotten, like, guys, just be more curious.
Ronnie Chieng
Zip. Okay, so Patrick's like, I'm finicky. Forgot about it, you know? But you could please me in any other way. And Ben's like, oh, God, it's been a long time since I've had a chart, I guess. This fussy. You can count how many food items he eats on one hand, and you'd still have fingers to play with.
Ben Mandelker
What's he doing with those fingers? So Jason is like, all right, everyone, we're gonna draw Banka. And now there's gonna be some. Alicia tells Barbie to do laundry because it's getting pretty bad. And then the guests are playing with water toys. And Patrick's like, oh, my God. I mean, you're done. Slide. I'm scared of sharks. I'm not gonna lie. Call me up. Oh, you're right.
Ronnie Chieng
This is Patrick. I know. We were expecting it to all be Brandon this time, but this new guy, Patrick, takes over. He's like, what? Going down the slide. I ain't gonna do that. I'm afraid of shocks, honestly, believe it or not, you know, I ain't doing that. Ain't gonna lie. Call me a all you want. I ain't jumping down that water. That's called rolling the dice. And I'm a gambler, but you know what? I don't gamble on my life. So now you and be like, ew, it.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
He tastes like corn syrup.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Like, honestly, like, get some fiber. The shark's like, God, I'm I ate some New Jersey guy, and now I cannot.
Ben Mandelker
You know, unlike you, unlike you, Patrick, these sharks actually have standards, and they actually, like, care about the things that they eat. And so, yeah, they're not gonna just, like, settle for, like, a burger. Anyway, it's time for lunch, and they're. They're gathering, and Daisy starts serving everyone. So she's serving some grilled zucchini, and she's like, did you want some grilled zucchini with paprika? And Brandon's like, okay. Like, it's crazy. There's a vegetable.
Ronnie Chieng
And then she also does sound like a crazy way to offer things. Would you like grilled zucchini with paprika? Have you ever heard somebody say that? Hey, would you like. Would you like this? It's got paprika. Like a huge selling point.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I don't know. Especially not for these people. So then she's like, we have some shrimp. Do you want some shrimp? And he goes, it's a scotch. So it's like, this is the same person who asked for a seafood extravaganza is now just wants a scotch of shrimp. And then there's like. So Brandon's like, there's, like, a lot of vegetables on this plate. She goes, yeah, the hot food's coming up now. Yeah, but my plate is, like, full of, like, vegetables.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, it's disgusting. There's also a huge lobster on the table, by the way.
Ben Mandelker
Lobster. There's so much food that's coming up. And then Carmen's like, yeah, it's full of stuff you don't even eat. He's like, yeah, I'm like, I'm being polite. I'm being polite. Like, not a shrimp. Like, I'll eat the shrimp. I'll look at the shrimp.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. And Carmen's like, oh, my God. There's, like, this table's, like, full of stuff you don't eat. And Brandon says, yeah, if I'm being polite, I'm being polite. Okay, but no, not the shrimp. All right, but this. I'll look at at it. I'll just look at it.
Ben Mandelker
That was the gay this time. See, look at us switching the roles of everyone.
Ronnie Chieng
Because I feel like Patrick and Brandon are too similar of names.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I agree. They sound like they could be brothers. Yeah, but yeah, brand. So Brandon, who was, like, down for super extravaganza, suddenly is like, like, I'll tolerate, like, two shrimp, and, like, I've got some vegetables, by the way.
Ronnie Chieng
Do you think he meant foods that start with a C? He probably did he seems so confused by seafood.
Ben Mandelker
He is like. Like, it's just. It's. It's like, this is like, bath.
Ronnie Chieng
Where's the custard?
Ben Mandelker
Like, where. Where's the calamari? Although I guess that's seafood.
Ronnie Chieng
Where are the crostini? I mean, geez, we said seafood. So then.
Ben Mandelker
Then someone's like, yeah, Patrick doesn't need any of this. He's like, yeah, I'm a finicky eater. It's like, don't worry, we'll take care of it. Like, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. It's like, well, I'm not. And actually, to be fair to Patrick, in this case, Patrick was, like, pretty chill. And as Brandon, who decided he wants to make a fuss because he's like, I'm the primary. So it's like, your fun is my obligation. Like, I'm responsible for your fun. So I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say something because he's like, looking to basically.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. To be a diva and make his moment.
Ben Mandelker
Fluff his. Fluff his feathers, et cetera.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. So Daisy, Brandon is acting kind of crazy right now. They asked for a seafood lunch, and they put that on their preference sheet. And Ben checked in with them before lunch service, and then they changed their mind halfway through lunch. What am I. I supposed to do the. But why don't you just go take the sheets off the bed and over every woman who's ever worked on a boat?
Ben Mandelker
So then Carmen's asking Brandon how he liked the lobster. He's like, I didn't eat it. I don't do that. Yeah, I'm like, not the happiest. Like, it's not what I was expecting. I just got, like, a bunch of lettuce. I'm like, you are an in shape gay. And you're, like, turning your nose up at lettuce. Like, is that all you eat?
Ronnie Chieng
He's brought you lobster and shrimp. And now he brings out.
Ben Mandelker
These are, like, huge.
Ronnie Chieng
He orders full fish again. I mean, he brings out full fish again. Did you know? Whole fish?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Chieng
Why would he do that?
Ben Mandelker
I don't know. But he's serving lean. But he's serving all sorts of lean protein to this guy. And he's like, no.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah. That's really gross.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it's not what I was expecting. So here comes the red snapper again. And Carmen's like, did you order fish? Because I did not.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm like, you literally ordered fish.
Ben Mandelker
I need to see a response from this guy. Like, Like, I like that. I like that Bravo is doing these little vignettes with the charter guests now before they come on. But I also need. I need follow ups after these shows air and be like, what the were you thinking? What's wrong with you now that you see this? What. What were you thinking? I need the answers. I hate how they just, like, they leave the boat and then they're gone forever.
Ronnie Chieng
You know, maybe that could be our People's court idea for Bravo because, you know, we pitched out. I talked about this last week. We pitched a people's court where at the end of the episode, they just have us, like, Doug Llewellyn outside the court being like, okay, well, here's how the court case went. How do you feel? And we could be there and be like, hey, okay, we just watched the episode. Brandon, you had seafood on your preference sheet. What the.
Ben Mandelker
And it was. And it was an audible confirmation.
Ronnie Chieng
Dun, dun, dun. I did not. I'm not gonna pay anything. You can't make me pay.
Ben Mandelker
Well, guess what? So now they all want burgers. So Brandon's like, sir, I am not a rabbit. The amount of vegetables that were presented, I'm just like, a very meat eater. Like, anything protein. I'm like, well, we. You don't have to tell us that you're meat eater.
Ronnie Chieng
We knew that this is protein.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it is. Exactly.
Ronnie Chieng
I'm all for. He gives you shrimp, lobster, and whole fish.
Ben Mandelker
This is, like, great protein for you.
Ronnie Chieng
Like, just not a smart person.
Ben Mandelker
He's just. He's not smart. That what he needs. But also, like, since when. When is someone who is, like, looking at their figure suddenly, like, I don't want to have vegetables. Unless you're on keto, because keto is weird about vegetables. But still, I. I don't think he's talking about keto here. He's just an idiot.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, so. And he just also wants to be difficult. So Brandon gets his attention, and he's like, sir, I am not a rabbit, okay? Like, I'm all for protein. And Carmen goes, except fish. Carmen, shut up. This is a seafood extravaganza. Carmen, did you not look at the preference sheet? So he prime.
Ben Mandelker
So Brandon was like, here's the thing. I even sat on there. I said I wanted to be, like, I wanted to be light for lunch. I was thinking like, lobster, shrimp, What?
Ronnie Chieng
And the camera cuts to the lobster,
Ben Mandelker
and she literally have shrimp on your plate. And you said, you don't want to eat it. And then she asked you about the lobster, and you said, he didn't want to eat it.
Ronnie Chieng
This is so confusing. How does this make sense? And he goes, and, you know, a very light lunch, but very seafood forward. And it was seafood, like, backwards.
Ben Mandelker
What are you talking. He's just upset because there was zucchini on his plate, and he clearly did not want zucchini. And at that point, he was like, I don't know. Maybe it's like he felt like it was touching the shrimp. I don't know what's going on, but, like, this made no sense to me whatsoever.
Ronnie Chieng
Yeah, he's. He's detestable. So Ben's like, well, I wanted to do the best food I've ever done in my life, this charter. And unfortunately, we're dealing with rather sophomoric palates. That means immature, by the way. I know I'm speaking to an American audience, so I've seen your nascar, so that's what that means. All right.
Ben Mandelker
He wanted a seafood extravaganza, and I've given him all the seafood that I have on the boat, and now he wants a burger. Okay, so Ellie, make these buggers.
Ronnie Chieng
Well, you can tell when everyone's enjoying the meal and they're, like, hyped. And I feel like everybody's like, hype just went down. Yeah, because you're being an and embarrassing everybody on a charter. And they're not going to act like they love it if the primary is like, this sucks. I saw zucchini. Two seasoned zucchini, by the way. Oh, why don't you just open with that? Great lunch.
Ben Mandelker
There is even though look at my man. Man, he's over here looking like a gabaroche. Right, right, right. And so Brandon's like, I don't know what that means. He's like. It's like a pitcher, like a bomb, like bow, you know, like that.
Ronnie Chieng
So now in the galley, Daisy's like, well, I thought the lunch looked nice, personally. You didn't do anything wrong. He's like, thank you, Daisy. It's nice to be teammates. So now he has to make more burgers, and they bring those to them. I hope there's rat poison in those burgers.
Ben Mandelker
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Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: June 2, 2026
In this energetic and hilarious episode, Ben and Ronnie recap the season finale of Below Deck Down Under (S04E18: "Sins and Sensability"). They break down the explosive “LinenGate” involving Chef Ben, praise and roast the crew’s antics, marvel at the oddity of charter guests’ food preferences, and reflect on why this has been one of the best Below Deck seasons ever. The hosts’ signature mix of affection, mockery, and Bravo fandom is in full force as they delve into ego clashes, fitted sheet woes, and the ongoing evolution of Bravo’s yachting franchise.
On Daisy’s Growth
On Chef Ben’s Continued Presence
On Captain Jason’s Deadpan Leadership
On Fitted Sheets as Existential Threat
On Charters with Clashing Food Demands
Ben and Ronnie deliver another classic, mixing satirical wit and Bravo superfan passion. Their discussion juggles real production insight (e.g., the logistics of guest casting), sharp character analysis (why Daisy and Ben “work”), and the absurdity of luxury meets pettiness (LinenGate, the “Seafood but Not That” lunch debacle). The finale sets up anticipation for a reunion and yet more “crappens” to come.
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