#3398 RHOA S17E10: Oh Say Can You Flee

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3398 RHOA S17E10: Oh Say Can You Flee

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: June 8, 2026
Episode Summary & Detailed Breakdown

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the drama-rich Real Housewives of Atlanta, Season 17, Episode 10, “Star Spangled Mess.” The guys praise the high-quality chaos this season, dissect cast delusions, and recap standout moments—focusing on Pinky’s shambolic TV pilot auditions, Cynthia’s new Dutch boyfriend, fractured friendships, body shaming gone awry, and a “national anthem” showdown no one saw coming. The hosts’ trademark comedic irreverence and Bravo love shines throughout.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. General Season and Cast Thoughts

Timestamp: 06:00–08:38

• Hosts’ Take on the Season:
  • Both Ben and Ronnie are loving the current season, calling it “one of the best in a long time.”
  • They highlight the cast’s “delusion”: Drew thinking she's a major star; Shamia’s sudden “movie career”; K. Michelle’s paranoia; and Pinky’s “magical reframing” of her bankruptcy as she jumps into TV production.
• Quote:
  • Ronnie: "Atlanta really does a good job of bringing the delusion." (06:29)
  • Ben: "It’s a hilarious show…a nice dose of hilarity to start the week off." (09:19)

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2. Pinky Cole’s TV Show Auditions: Ambition Meets Delusion

Timestamp: 07:54–15:23, 51:14–63:53

• Pinky’s “Producer” Past:
  • Claims prior career as a “very successful television producer” and “casting director for Iyanla Fix My Life.”
  • Ben and Ronnie question the legitimacy of those credits and mock Pinky’s creative accounting.
  • Ronnie: "Calm down, Mark Burnett." (11:14)
• TV Show Budget Woes:
  • Pinky budgets $40k-80k for a TV pilot, far below industry norms ("It won’t even air on 2B, just 2!").
  • Hosts note the contradiction: Pinky is in bankruptcy one moment, producing TV the next.
• Audition Day Chaos (51:14+):
  • Long line of hopeful actors for “Edgewood”—questionable there’s money to pay them.
  • Drew arrives with an “I’m above this” attitude, refuses to fully audition, citing need to go through her manager, and subtly shades the project along the way.
  • Shamia, meanwhile, gamely auditions, determined to add “actress” to her résumé.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Ben: "This $40,000, you’re gonna be able to pay for like, one half hour of craft service." (08:11)
  • Pinky (per Ben): "What box office—FedEx box, UPS box, what box office friend?" (60:45)
  • Ronnie: “If I see my friend struggling and they show up with an Uber Black, I'm like, what are you doing?” (52:11)

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3. Cynthia’s New Man and Couch Configuration

Timestamp: 15:23–19:15

• Cynthia’s long-distance Dutch boyfriend, Prince, makes an appearance.
• The cast riffs on dating Europeans and “going Dutch.”
• Ben becomes irrationally annoyed by Cynthia’s oddly-shaped couch (“Was it modular? Was it Tetris’d? It bothered me…”).
• Notable banter about “waddle” and FaceTime sex.

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4. Messy Friendship Dynamics & Housewife Pledges

Timestamp: 22:44–32:12

• Cynthia, Ben, and Ronnie laugh over housewives’ classic pledge: “going direct to each other” (never works).
• Ben: “They always say if I hear something about you, I’m coming directly to you. And then they maybe try it once…it fails.” (23:26)
• Ronnie asserts: “You need to try out your shit-talking on other people—it’s like a Broadway show, you need to try it out on others before the person.” (23:40)

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5. The Shamia vs. Angela Plotline (Hawks, Falcons, and Spreading Rumors)

Timestamp: 24:13–28:15

• Angela spreads unsourced rumors about Shamia’s romantic entanglements with Hawks and Falcons players.
• Ronnie muses: “To be a hoe for all the different sports, I feel like…that’s a lot of groundwork.” (26:02)
• Phaedra delivers an epic pop-culture reference:
  • “She’s definitely giving Inspector Gadget meets Mr. Bean.” (27:06)
• Classic producer prodding as the group debates rumors, their sources, and the timeline (“Are you bringing up people she slept with in the way past and making it sound current?”)

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6. Gerald’s Surprise Party: Last-Minute Invitations, Exclusions, and Celebrations

Timestamp: 30:04–39:23

• Shamia invites everyone at the last minute, but invited Dennis far in advance—Portia realizes she’s been purposely excluded.
• Ben: “Do not invite me 24 hours before something with a strict dress code!” (30:24)
• Ronnie: “You know that’s on purpose. You invite late if you want people not to attend.” (31:10)
• Party itself is eventful for its blandness, copious food, and Kelly’s emotional drunken speech (with new teeth).
• Discussion veers off into the trials and tribulations of Atlanta's notoriously huge and inconvenient airport.

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7. Bigfoot Body Shaming: Shamia Stands Ten Gigantic Toes Down

Timestamp: 41:12–44:55

• Tense scene at the party: Shamia persists in calling Angela “Bigfoot,” ignoring calls to let it go and fully leaning into body-shaming language—no one’s laughing.
• Ben: “This is a dying fight. Everyone likes Angela. No one likes you. You are literally body shaming.” (43:06)
• Ronnie: “Sometimes a body-shaming moment tumbles out…but she’s standing ten gigantic toes down.” (43:43)

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8. Bravo Crossover – Giselle Meets Portia

Timestamp: 47:36–50:14

• Potomac’s Giselle Bryant and Portia meet up; banter about the ill-fated “Bravo Chat Room.”
• Ronnie: “Giselle’s fashion doesn’t improve with geography.” (48:15)
• Portia is cool about being excluded from Gerald’s party: “That’s her house. If she doesn’t want me to come, that’s cool.” (50:03)
• Hosts observe that both are engaged in a “civility-off”—no one wants to get caught being petty before the reunion.

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9. Phaedra and K. Michelle’s “Southern Bonding” and Fishing Fiasco

Timestamp: 63:53–68:04

• K. Michelle and Phaedra attempt southern camaraderie with fishing (using Kool-Aid dipped hot dogs for bait).
• Ben: “For all the talk about being a country girl, like, I don’t even know how to fish. But I was like, I feel like this is not how you do it.” (65:19)
• The scene is a lighthearted oddity amidst the episode’s chaos.

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10. Drew Sings the National Anthem: Event Drama and Walkouts

Timestamp: 68:59–75:58

• Drew prepares to perform the national anthem at the Rich in Spirit charity softball game—does a solid job, by all accounts.
• K. Michelle at first refuses to enter, sitting in her car (and grabbing her purse for the “bathroom” as an obvious exit strategy).
• Ben: “She left her purse there. She didn’t care. She’s like, I don’t care. I’m out of here.” (75:14)
• Shamia and K. Michelle drive off, gleefully blasting and singing the anthem at Drew from their getaway car:
  • Ben: “A national anthem fight. Love it. Love to see it.” (78:30)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ben on Pinky’s production delusions:
  “It won’t even air on 2B. It’ll just air on 2. You can’t afford the B and I.” (08:09)

• Ronnie on reality star acting dynamics:
  “Girl, stop pretending you’re not going through Backstage like everyone else.” (54:08)

• Phaedra on strange rumors:
  “She’s definitely giving Inspector Gadget meets Mr. Bean.” (27:06)

• Ben on shade and civility:
  “They are basically in a civility off right now because neither one of them wants to be the one that gets busted at the reunion.” (50:14)

• Cynthia’s boyfriend and “going Dutch” jokes:
  Ronnie: “It would be hard for me to date a Dutch person because I feel like they’d always make me pay for my own meal.” (17:23)

• K. Michelle’s exit strategy:
  “She left her purse there. She didn’t care. She’s like, ‘I don’t care, I’m out of here.’” (75:14)

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Timestamps to Key Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------|---------------| | Cast Delusion & Season Praise | 06:00–08:38 | | Pinky’s TV “Audition” & Budget Banter | 07:54–15:23, 51:14–63:53 | | Cynthia’s Boyfriend / Couch Troubles | 15:23–19:15 | | Housewives Pledges & Friendship Riffs | 22:44–32:12 | | Shamia/Angela Rumor Mill | 24:13–28:15 | | Gerald’s Surprise Party/Invitation Drama | 30:04–39:23 | | “Bigfoot” Incident / Body Shaming | 41:12–44:55 | | Bravo Chat Room Reunion + Civility | 47:36–50:14 | | K. Michelle & Phaedra Go Fishing | 63:53–68:04 | | National Anthem Event & Walkouts | 68:59–75:58 |

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Original Language & Tone Highlights

• This recap preserves Ben and Ronnie’s irreverent, affectionate mocking of all things Bravo.
• The episode is packed with digressions, pop-culture riffs, pointed shade, and on-point Housewives analysis—a breezy, insider-y tone Bravo fans love.

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In Closing

This episode showcases Atlanta at its messy best, with hilarious layers of delusion, ego, homemade industry drama, and “Star Spangled” vocal showdowns. Ben and Ronnie serve plenty of snark and love—both for the franchise and each other—making “Watch What Crappens” the ultimate Housewives debrief for fans seeking sharp, hilarious commentary.

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Memorable Closing Quote:
Ben: “A national anthem fight. Love it. Love to see it.” (78:30)

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Transcript

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello Ben.

[Ben]

Hello. How are you?

[Ronnie]

Good, thank you. Welcome to Monday everybody. Happy Gay Pride. Happy post Tony's Day. Happy. Well, it's just a big gay weekend over here that we just finished.

[Ben]

Big gay weekend. The best kind. Did you watch the 20s?

[Ronnie]

I did not because I had to celebrate straight people time during Gay Pride.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

Love island came on last week and we had a really busy week which meant I had six hours of Love island to watch yesterday. So I cuddled in my bed and I watched a dumb hooker parade of straight people.

[Ben]

Wow. Well, now you're officially ahead of me because I wasn't able to catch up. I thought I was going to be able to catch up yesterday and I only. I still have two more episodes to go. So it's just, just sort of getting back into my normal rhythms and flows of TV watching after this crazy, crazy week that we just had. But now I'm relocated up to my parents house. For those who are looking at my environment, why suddenly I don't look like I'm in as posh of a setting as you are? It's because I'm back in my childhood bedroom. And also if my audio is like a little lower or a little weirder today, I apologize ahead of time. I'm now on my official travel mic, so doing the best that I can over here.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, I'm still in the fancy studio, so.

[Ben]

Is so fancy. You look like you're in a commercial. I feel like, I feel like I'm one of those strange professors that they call in on like CNN to talk about war. They're like, I'm now from the University of, of Mishatoka. It's Professor Langley. And then it's always like some professor doesn't know how to use the zoom and it looks like it's like pixel art. And he's like, what?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Huh?

[Ben]

What? That's what I feel like right now.

[Ronnie]

You're Wendy Osefo calling in from like the jail, you know, visitors room or whatever where she's doing that stuff from. But yeah, it's here. It's nice. Nice to be here. Great to be here. So I don't even know who won anything. The Tony, so. But God bless all those people.

[Ben]

Do you want to know?

[Ronnie]

Singing their little hearts out? No, I do. No, I actually did. I read it on the way here. Spoiler alert.

[Ben]

Schoon. Listen, we are happy for Schmigadoon because Sarah Chase, the star of Smigadoon, Tony nominee, Crapin's listener supporter. We love Sarah Chase, so congratulations to her and all of her castmates.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so she nailed that one, so good for her.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so let's get on with today, shall we? Today's a crazy day here because we have Atlanta, we have Rhode island, and then we have Amazon Live, and then we have crappy hour. So it's a full day.

[Ben]

Yeah. And in the middle of it, I'm hopping on to two judgy girls to go over there to talk. So we've got. It's a. We are. And you're going to be doing some other podcasts this week as well. So it's. It's going to be a whole. It's going to be the. The madness continues for crappin. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So good times. Let's get on with it, shall we? Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 1017 Episode 10 Star Spangled Mess

[Ben]

how exciting. All right, Star Spangled Mess. Another funny episode. You know, I think there are a lot of people who don't like K. Michelle because she's batty. I'm like, what? What about a real House of being Baddie makes you not like them? I think that she is hilarious.

[Ronnie]

I love her so far. She's amazing tv. This is one of the best seasons they've had in a long time.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I was actually excited to watch it.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's been so good. Yeah, it's been so, so good.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Fantastic. And everybody's so delusional on it. You know, Atlanta really does a good job of bringing the delusion. You've got Drew, who thinks she. Yeah, you know Beyonce slash Julia Roberts slash God knows who. You've got Shamia, who thinks she has a movie career. I don't know when that happened, but she thinks she's got, like, a legit movie career.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

You've got K. Michelle, who's just nuts and thinks everybody's following her. And then you've got Pinky, who keeps reframing her. Bankruptcy. It's like personal. It's business. It doesn't matter. Anyway, I have. I poop out $80,000. None of this really matters. She's crazy. And then we add on to pinkies today, because now Pinky is producing a movie.

[Ben]

Ugh. You know what? You know what they love doing on Atlanta? They love holding auditions for something, anything. They will. They will love to sit behind a folding table and line people up. I mean, every season someone does this,

[Ronnie]

but Pinky has a movie. I don't understand. And also, it was.

[Ben]

No, no, it's a TV show. Actually, a point of contention because Shamia said, like, she was excited to audition for Shamia's movie, and I was like, a TV show?

[Ronnie]

Oh, it's a TV series. Okay. Notoriously, Way less expensive than movies. Not really, because that's a lot of money. And she's like, I want to spend $40,000. $40,000?

[Ben]

What is this about $40,000 on a TV show?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she said her budget is.

[Ben]

It's not even going to air on 2B. It'll just air on 2. You can't afford the B and the I. But $40,000, you're gonna be able to pay for, like, one half hour of craft service.

[Ronnie]

Exactly. I was wondering kind of about the budget. So I'm guessing it's like, non Union,

[Ben]

which is not great, obviously.

[Ronnie]

Fine. You know, that's fine. But don't you owe, like, zillions of dollars? Where are you getting $40,000? I don't know. None of the. The logistics don't make any sense on this show. You know, like, one week she's crying, and, you know, it's like, oh, my God, is she going to lose her house? Oh, my God. And then the next week, she's like, I'm producing a television show.

[Ben]

Yeah. The number of TV shows that have been produced by this cast, by the way, is surprisingly high, considering that, like, one doesn't just make pilots in life. Like, it's just not a thing that people do. Like, sometimes you can, like, make a short film or whatever, but it's just, like, not a common thing to be like, hey, I'm going to make a. A pilot. TV pilot. And yet I think we've seen it from Cynthia from Kenya. Did we see it from Kim Fields? I don't remember if we did. She may have just been directing one. And now we have Pinky doing a TV pilot.

[Ronnie]

I don't know, but I can tell you this. Life does, in fact, twirl on. Isn't that the name of her show? Life Twirls On?

[Ben]

I believe that is correct. Life Twirls On. But so do we. Just how we do it is no Twirl, Mystery, Snow, Twirl Street. Anyway, it's a hilarious show. It's like a nice. It's like a nice dose of hilarity to start the week off, which I really enjoy.

[Ronnie]

And I really calling a flute or a recorder a flute.

[Ben]

Yeah, you've got.

[Ronnie]

I mean, the delusion, it just keeps going.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's a great appetizer. Before you get into Rhode Island. It's not even an appetizer. It's a full meal. It's a full meal, and then you have a Rhode island meal. So it's a really nice one, two punch that we get on Sunday nights now.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So, yeah, she's doing these auditions, and she's brought in Naturi Naughton Lewis, actress and songwriter. Why? I don't know. Do we know why?

[Ben]

I think it's notorious. I mean, Natori does have. You know, she is established. And it's like. It's like, okay, I need to sell people on the idea that I'm doing a real TV project. So they can either. I can either pitch it as Here is a TV project produced by a lady who sells chicken with an apostrophe, or I could have the lady from 3Lw and Power who's on here. So I think she's like, let me add a little bit of credibility to this project, even though she was a producer for Maury. By the way, being a producer for Maury Povich does not mean you're automatically qualified to just become, like, a sitcom producer. I just want to point that out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Look, I don't want to take away anyone's credits, but when we're talking about Delusion, she says what a lot of people don't know is I was a very successful television producer before I even thought of being a restaurateur. I was a casting director for Ayanla Fix My Life. And I was like, are we starting at the top? Because I don't know that anybody. I don't know that a casting director from Ayanla would be considered, like, someone who has an extremely successful career in producing television. Calm down, Mark Burnett.

[Ben]

I know. Now, listen, if she had said, I was a casting director for Starting over with Iyanla, then I'd be like, give her anything she needs. Or producer.

[Ronnie]

You know, she was like, a producer for these shows. And she's like, I'm a successful producer. I produced a y', all, and I Fix my Life. I'd be like, well, okay. But she's like, I'm a very successful producer. I used to cast for Ayan. My Fix My Life.

[Ben]

I know Honestly, if she even said I was the one who bought the mannequin that prosecuted the lady on Starting over, and it represented herself because there was an episode where a lady went to court and she was on trial against herself, and herself was represented by a mannequin, and the judge was Delarice. So, like, if she said she was in charge of that mannequin, I'd be like, give her every.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Give her.

[Ben]

Just fast forward to the Emmy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I remember at the time, that mannequin was like, oh, my God, this chicken. This fake chicken nugget tastes like it's from Costco. It's a good episode.

[Ben]

Mannequin was so upset.

[Ronnie]

Della Reese is like, how dare you? I've been touched by a terrible chicken nugget.

[Ben]

There was also one episode where they had, like, they, like, assembled a whole bunch of suitcases in the driveway of their mansion, and then, like, Iyanla had them, like, like, jump over the suitcases, and she's like, there. You've now stepped over your baggage. That show was so good. Like, who came up with that show that's like, let's put a whole bunch of women who have some, you know, some. Some challenges in their life. We're going to put them in a house and make them do very literal therapy.

[Ronnie]

Wow, that was a good one. So she was also a producer for the Maury show, which, I mean, better still not sitcom track.

[Ben]

That's a plug and play, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. But she's like, what better way to get in production than to tell my story in a way where people can visually see it and appreciate it and understand Entrepreneurship is beautiful. And it doesn't have to be just one lane, but one lane needs to be successful for you. I mean, like, if you're gonna make a biopic about yourself, you need to have your stores open and not be in $5 million bankruptcy. I'm sorry.

[Ben]

I don't wanna.

[Ronnie]

You know, like, I need an ending. You need a happier ending before you shoot the show, is what I'm saying.

[Ben]

Well, I've got some. I've got some big news here. I just got the results in, and, Pinky Cole, you are, in fact, the mother of this bankruptcy. I'm so sorry. The tests came in. It is yours. This bankruptcy is yours.

[Ronnie]

And Natori is playing Pinky in it, which is nice and n. I don't know a lot about Natori. I will say this. Natori is not busy. She's not. She's not very busy.

[Ben]

Well, listen, I have to put some respect on natori's name. I mean, 3lW. Let's not forget. Let's not forget our favorite girl group of, you know, turn of the millennium, you know, promises, promises,

[Ronnie]

chicken nuggets.

[Ben]

No more, no more, no more. That is actually what Natori will be when she realizes when she reads the script and she decides to back out of this project.

[Ronnie]

So Pinky tells us who Notorious Ben just told us.

[Ben]

I just sang it with some mumbles. You're welcome.

[Ronnie]

Pinky's like, we've got the script, the pilot episode. Did you see the budget? What's that number? And she's like, we're in the 80s, but we need to shave some more off. And she's like, yeah, I'm. I'm good with the $40,000 range.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, of course you are. If it's in the. If the budget is 80,000 and you want to only front 40,000, of course you're good with the 40,000.

[Ronnie]

Rang. Yeah, Pinky, just go sell some more, you know, fake chicken sandwiches because that shit's not cheap. She'll sell a Beyond Burger for 20 something dollars. So, I don't know, some more burgers?

[Ben]

Some. Yeah, yeah, I am. I'm concerned about this TV pilot, I'm not gonna lie. Then we go to Cynthia's house and Drew and Angela show up and guess who's there? Cynthia's boyfriend, Prince. We finally meet him. Our dad, Dutch. God has arrived. So Cynthia's like, by the grace of God, Prince and I have been dating almost two years now. What I love about our long distance relationship is that when he's gone, he's gone. And when he's back, he's back. So it works for us.

[Ronnie]

The producer's like, what about when you need to get laid? She's like, what do you think FaceTime's for? Not that. You better. You better back away trying to get me to do anything like that on the FaceTime. I can barely get myself my face to look okay in FaceTime. Like getting an okay selfie for my. My waddle is work on FaceTime without having to worry about my FUPA. My back and my pussy and my crack. That is too much to angle.

[Ben]

I mean, what the hell? So Portia shows up, and so she meets Prince and she's like, this girl's

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

so happy and glowing. Like I've never ever seen Cynthia with all her teeth like this.

[Ben]

And everyone, Angel's asking if they're in love, and Prince is like, am I in love? Hell yes. And so they're like all happy And Cynthia's like, I'm not surprised that he loves me. I'm just surprised that he said in front of the ladies. So.

[Ronnie]

Oh. So he gets the hell out of there. He's like, oh, women are talking. Bye. Cynthia's like, see, now that's a housewife's husband right there.

[Ben]

He says at one point, he says something in Dutch. He says. He says the whole thing in Dutch. And they just cut to Drew and they play that percussion. What's that percussion like? It's like a woodblock cuckoo. Like, Drew's, like, all confused. I just thought was funny because, of course, no one in this cast speaks Dutch. And so all of them, it's very reasonable to be like, what. What the fuck did he just say?

[Ronnie]

But.

[Ben]

But the show's still, like, we'll take a chance to have Drew represent people being bewildered and confused.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So he leave. I mean, I don't know. Listen, I. I think he's really cute and nice and stuff. I just. It would be hard for me to date a Dutch person because I feel like they'd always make me pay for my own meal.

[Ben]

You're stupid. I.

[Ronnie]

Why also, they call it going Dutch.

[Ben]

Well, you know, I'd have a hard time because I'd probably always say stroopwafel. And then I was like, it's drop waffle, not stroopwafel.

[Ronnie]

And I'd be like, oh, whatever. Then get rid of the extra E. Stop confusing everybody on purpose.

[Ben]

And then, you know, like, you start eating the stroopwafel. And then they'll be like, why are you eating that? You should just be having an almond. It is the Dutch way. I'm like, wait a second. I'm dating Yolanda. The limes.

[Ronnie]

We only eat strop waffle once in while. Once in very important Blue moon. Stupid Americans.

[Ben]

So he leaves, and now they all sit down. They. What was going on with Cynthia's sofa? Was it, like, modular? And she moved all the. The squares inside because it was like a big, giant day bed. But it had, like, just strange. Like, it had, like, a strange shape to it that I couldn't quite wrap my brain around. Did you notice this? Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I thought she was making it like a couch pit, you know, where you can just all, like, couch pit together.

[Ben]

Okay. Yeah. Because I felt like it was trying to be a corner sectional, but it somehow got Tetris and scrambled into, like, a big shape. But, like, not everyone could. Even though it was so big, not everyone could really sit in it. Like, someone had to stand. Right.

[Ronnie]

Mm. I mean, I don't know.

[Ben]

It bothered me.

[Ronnie]

I like that it bothered you so much. I did notice them, like, kind of falling onto the couch. They couldn't just get. Get on the couch. They were kind of like rolling onto the couch.

[Ben]

Yeah. Because, like, you had to go through an extra square of couch just to get to the sitting square part.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, one of those things that's okay once you're sitting, but getting there is not good.

[Ben]

It's the sort of thing my dad would be very unhappy with. You'd be like, why is this syringe like this?

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

It's called age band. Okay. It's age.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Yeah, it's just a language I don't speak or understand. I see. I see numbers and dollar signs and whatever, and I just. I just want to hide in a little Cave somewhere.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

It's true. So Cynthia's like, by the way, me and Pinky got K and Porsche together for lunch the other day, and I'm very proud to say that it went extremely well. So Portia's basically like, yeah, you know, long story short, instead, we're not gonna, like, talk behind each other's bags. We'll just talk directly to each other's faces, which is always the most hilarious and sweet and unreliable pledge that housewives make towards each other. They always get into fights. They always say, well, in the future, if I hear something about you, I'm coming directly to you. And then they maybe try it once or twice, and then it fails. And then they go back to talking about each other behind each other's backs, as they should.

[Ronnie]

I mean, I'm not coming straight to you if I hear something about you or if I'm mad at you. I need to talk to other people to try it out. It's like a Broadway show. You need to try it out on other people until your story sounds as solid as possible. I actually think, like, bring it to the other person.

[Ben]

I think that's actually 100% correct. Like, it's like it's sort of. You're saying it sort of in a joking way. And I know you're sitting. You're serious, but I think that there really is something that, like, if you have an issue with someone, you vent a little bit. And you also, like, focus what it is that's, like, bothering you, what you're upset about. You need to give it some reps. And so people on these shows are always, like, so shocked. I guess it's because people on reality TV are inherently messy. So when you're venting to someone, you only have like three seconds before that person's like, well, if you don't tell them, I will. And then you have to, like, rush this thing, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but yeah, definitely try out your shit talking people. So they're talking about this get together that they had. And Portia's like, well, long story short is we're gonna talk to each other instead of other people. So I was glad about that. But then we started talking about an elephant in the room that she created, which is, who's the one setting her up with the plotting and the scheming. But I said, but who told you that? Because you're having so many relationship issues with everybody because of that's what this one person is telling you. And Angela's like, well, my discernment said it was Shamia. So I wanted to speak to her and kind of explain why I felt the way I felt and give her an opportunity. And so she tells the story of

[Ben]

meeting her in the restaurant, not getting kebabs. And she's like. And Angela's saying, she's talking about my home. My home's not right. And I'm like, your home is hell. Because you're talking about my husband's outside. And the few time he was outside, he called me and he saw your ass outside. So I, I, so I went left. So Portia just leaves. Because she's basically of the mindset that, yeah, I'm like, not really great with Shamia, but I'm neutral and I don't want to be accused of piling on to her. She's just wants to stay out of it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She knows this will all be blamed on her somehow.

[Ben]

Yep. Because it will be. So she's like, I don't want to give a facial expression, a head nod, nothing. So then Angela's still going off about this. She's like, I mean, why the hell are you working for the Hawks? You know, you're still working for the Hawks. Free that job up. But you're the Hawks players. Oh, you're in the Falcons players. I was like, wait, where did this happen? Is Shia. She's saying that Shamia's is banging various Hawks and Falcons players.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, we hadn't heard that one. Right now. Like, teams of things.

[Ben]

Yeah. Basketball and football.

[Ronnie]

So then, Drew, usually, I feel like you pick a sport when you're gonna, like, bang a bunch of players. Do people just jump sports? Because that's, like, a lot of groundwork to do. You know, you get in one sport, and then you kind of know the guys and the coaches and everything. I mean, to be a hoe for all the different sports, I feel like

[Ben]

it's like a. Yeah, it smells like a variety pack, because no one.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, but no one gossips more than straight guys, no matter what they say about us. Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. They're the biggest gossips, and they all talk. I mean, look, the crux of what's her face. Portia's whole thing this year is that she was hanging out with a guy, and his friend called up to gossip that he just banged Kelly. That's like. I mean, talk about gossips.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, And a preacher.

[Ben]

And a preacher. And a preacher.

[Ronnie]

I love the preacher. Somewhere around there, driving Lamborghinis, banging. Banging people on airplanes and then calling their best housewives friends after. Like, they're actually making sound. Preacher. Sound like a fun job.

[Ben]

Yeah, for sure. So Angela does this whole thing about Shamia banging different Falcons and Hawks players. And Phaedra's like, for Angela to be the Angela Lansbury of this group right now, she's definitely giving Inspector Gadget meets Mr. Bean. It's like, that didn't totally make sense to me, but I really appreciated the three pop culture references wedged together in one sentence that she made.

[Ronnie]

So the producer asks, do you believe that this lady's really sleeping with Hawks and Falcons players? And Angela's like, well, the girl's married, so I'm not trying to do that. But, yes, I believe it. Do you have proof? I. Look, she. I just said I believe it, and I believe the person who said it. Who is the person. I would. I will not not. Maybe it's the thing of the past, but it did happen. So now June Bug.

[Ben]

I'm gonna say it was June Bug who started this one. Again.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it was that restaurant. That shady restaurant queen. But. So wait, now, are you bringing up people she slept with in the way past and making it sound current? You know, Angela's slippery.

[Ben]

She is. She is that type. Yeah, I. I don't. I actually don't like if there's any sort of weight, but I am enjoying it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, me too. Because I feel like at least it's A step up from the preachers, you know, stuff. Yeah, I mean, preachers just gross me out. These married preachers. Yeah. Banging women on planes. Like, come on, now you're a preacher. Like, have some self respect. But the football players.

[Ben]

Hot, hot. Good for you. Yeah, good for you. I mean, especially, I mean, if you're stuck with Gerald all day, you know?

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God. Hey, you know what I'd love? If we could talk about air conditioning again tonight at dinner.

[Ben]

Yeah. So Cynthia's like, oh, my God. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just got a text. Everyone. Two for one fries at Applebee's. New Groupon just came in. Wait. Oh, my God. Got a new text. Got a new text.

[Ronnie]

People must really not watch Love island because that's not how you say you got a text. You go, I got a text, I got a text. I got a text. I got a text. Start crying, hugging each other.

[Ben]

Well, another big difference between this cast and Love island is that I believe that there's probably at least one or two people on this cast that know where New Hampshire is.

[Ronnie]

That was pretty funny.

[Ben]

Where's New Hampshire?

[Ronnie]

I love. The New Hampshire girl is so used to it. She's like, I'm from New Hampshire. Do you know where that is now?

[Ben]

It's a mythical place. A mythical place that's somewhere beyond the haze. You have to follow. You have to find an elder and. And he'll guide you towards the gates of New Hampshire, which, ironically, I'm going to next week

[Ronnie]

in a thong.

[Ben]

So I will be going in a thong. I was actually hoping to go to Rhode island this week, but I think I'm not going to be able to make that happen. So that's very sad.

[Ronnie]

That is sad. So Shamia comes up in a speech bubble, and they're both reading the text at the same time. And I'm. I'm having Gerald. I'm throwing Gerald a surprise party. I would love for you both to attend. All I ask is that you wear your finest African attire

[Ben]

and it's tomorrow at 8 o'. Clock. What the hell? I'm sorry, that's. Do not. I would say at that point, I'm not coming. Don't invite me the day before to anything where I have to have a strict dress code. Okay. I have to source African attire. I don't know now. I mean, these ladies may already have it. I'm not sure. But, like, I don't. I don't want to be told. I have 24 hours to go to a surprise party. I mean, I have plans. Okay. I've got board games to play. I've got Love island to watch. I've got, you know, cookbooks to page through. I've got pelotons that I have to aspire to ride but then wind up not writing because I play video games. Okay. I have other things to do.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, 24 hours is not enough notice, which she did on purpose, you know.

[Ben]

Yeah, you do that if you don't

[Ronnie]

want someone to like. Oh, so this is your first time hearing about that? Because she invited Dennis a week ago, so. And they're like, wait a minute. So she was doing this a week ago? Oh, so we're late editions. So they find out that they're all invited late. And of course, Portia's not invited.

[Ben]

And that's crazy that she invites Dennis and not Portia. I'm sorry, that's messy. And she tried to have a messy moment there, and it did not take off because obviously we didn't even register. I didn't register until right now. But also later on, she says the reason why she gave everyone such a short window of like, such a small, you know, invitation window, it's because she's like, loose lips sink ships. And, you know, if you give too much advanced notice, people text the person. But you invited Dennis. Dennis is the less the messiest guy here. He loves to sink ships all the time.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. It's rude, but it's like one of those housewives things that happens all the time, so I don't really care. It's also for a party I wouldn't go to anyway, so I think she did. People a favorite. Like, you don't want to celebrate Gerald's 40th birthday party? Oh, I'm so sorry that I would, but I would have planned to watch Love island at a different time, but unfortunately, with only 24 hours notice, I'm gonna have to say no.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Okay. But I did get him this nice little Carrie carry sized bottle of antifreeze. Would you give that to him for me?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

The irony is that I had to turn off my air conditioner to record today because it made too much noise. And here we are talking about the air conditioner king of Rhode island, no less.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Well, at least it's a nice day out there today.

[Ben]

It's actually beautiful. It's so beautiful. I'm glad we're spending it inside podcasting. We're in the same. We're in the same climate, everyone, right now. It's very exciting. So anyway, Dennis is invited. Andrew Is like, well, I wasn't invited, so, I mean, I don't want to crash any more parties. And Portia's like, what? What party did you crash? She's like, yours, remember? I crashed your party. She's like, oh, yeah, I forgot that we were fighting at the beginning of the season. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So now we go to K. Michelle's house, who is FaceTiming her son Chase, who's 21 years old. Yeah. And she's like, how you doing over there? You got girlfriend? What's going on there? What's going on there, honey? He's just like, hi, Mom. Just, like, looking away from the screen the whole time, working on his computer. He's like, hi, Mom. There's some platinum scheming. I called you. They put me on hold, and I heard a click on my phone. Someone's listening on this line, mom, no one's listening. It's just the hold system. Have you heard anything about my vagina over there at that office? Don't believe it thing. No one even knows that vagina anymore. I've had eight vaginas since. You call a meeting right now, you tell them that I'm on my eighth vagina.

[Ben]

Mom, stop it. It's my first day of work.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

No, you tell everyone.

[Ronnie]

I will not. Bye.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Bye.

[Ben]

So, yeah, he's doing really well. He's going into, like, corporate America, getting a job in D.C. and she is very proud of him. And she's. They start talking about girls, and she's

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

like, don't sneak in hot girls to the movies.

[Ben]

And he's like, what?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

You know, why are you looking at me? I'm your mother. And I feel like I can discern best what type of woman you need to marry. And you are top notch, top tier

[Ben]

educated, and you just. You don't deserve any gutter snap.

[Ronnie]

Like, okay, thanks for calling.

[Ben]

Thanks, Mom.

[Ronnie]

So we go over to the big birthday party. There's a whole band there.

[Ben]

Portia, Mia, she. She probably really thought this was going to be a big scene on the season. She probably thought this was going to be the thing that, like, would end an episode, you know, celebrating the family. And it gets just sort of like, wedged into, like, early, early episode segments. It's a real flop.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Like, Gerald's a real fun guy. Are they playing his favorite song? Because it's just

[Ben]

seriously. So people show up and, you know, it's. It's big, it's festive. Lots of people are there. It's like a perfectly fine, fun party. And Shamia saying that she invited all of her favorites, but unfortunately, Pinky won't make it because, you know, she stays booked and busy. And then we see Pinky, and she's at an event with Keisha Lance Bottoms, former mayor of Atlanta that I know really mainly from riding the shuttle from terminal to terminal in Atlanta. Hello. This is Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms. Welcome to Atlanta Hartsfield Airport. That's my. That's my contribution to this moment.

[Ronnie]

This is the only airport In America that's 90 miles long. Good luck making your connection.

[Ben]

I know. They're so proud of having the biggest airport in the country.

[Ronnie]

Have fun.

[Ben]

I know. Exactly your roller skates.

[Ronnie]

Good luck.

[Ben]

We have an enormous airport, but if you want food options, they're all crammed into three square feet. Enjoy. I hate their food court. You're, like, stuck.

[Ronnie]

Sorry. Sunday Chick Fil A is closed, okay? That's a national thing. Don't yell at Atlanta.

[Ben]

Yeah, Terrible airport. If you're gonna be a big airport and you're gonna be proud of being big, be, like, pleasant, okay? Don't be annoying.

[Ronnie]

Right? Get some food in my hand and get me to my plane. Like, why are, like, literally the biggest airport of all time?

[Ben]

It's the biggest airport in the country, and it is one of the worst. I mean, probably LAX is the worst. Let's be honest. But I don't know. Like, it's just like this one. At least with lax, it's gone to a place where you can generally get through security pretty breezily, you know? But Atlanta. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck, everyone.

[Ronnie]

So Shamia is saying she just wants good vibes, and that's why she didn't bring Portia. And so now people are doing shots and wishing Gerald a happy birthday, and Kelly's crying and already wasted. She's like, oh, I just want you guys to know you guys are my couple's goals. I mean, just seeing Gerald, like, how strong you are and how much of an amazing dad you are and how much you care for your family.

[Ben]

This is beautiful.

[Ronnie]

Kelly, I get that you're going through a hard time, but your man just bought you an entire new mouth. At least you're getting something out of the deal. Like, I don't want you crying with your new teeth. You just got those, you know, baby steps.

[Ben]

I also don't know if I say that they're couples goals, given that the storyline from them this season is that he won't allow her to shoot, like, kiss other actors on screen for her for that career or, like, really is kind of like, not happy with her having a career in general. So maybe not, like.

[Ronnie]

And also demanding a penis comes out

[Ben]

of her, and then there's that. So I'm. I'm not sure about that. So, okay, Michelle is rich.

[Ronnie]

He's very rich. He's rich. Going through some financial issues, and she's like, oh, my God, look at all this food. I mean, did you see all that food? That was a lot.

[Ben]

It was a lot of food. And I do like that he's an air conditioner king, because I feel like that's the sort of money that I feel like is reliable, as opposed to some of these other husbands who do, like, a little bit of this and a little bit of that, like, do some real estate or, like, they do things that you're like, where is this money coming from? Like, pk. Like, you know, I feel like you run an air conditioning business, and one of your clients is the airport, you know, and you're. And apparently, he's the. He's the Rhode island air conditioner. You know, I didn't realize or I had forgotten that he was the Rhode Island H Vac King until he. Shamia was on with Alicia. Oh, no. She was on with Rosie. I'm sorry. And Rosie was talking about her renovation, and Andy was like, well, you know, they are the Rhode island air conditioner kings. And Rosie, like, couldn't believe it. She was shocked. She was like, what the fun things we learn on the show. Who says it's not enriching?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So let's see. We got through this party. There's only so much I could say about air conditioning excitement in Rhode Island. You know,

[Ben]

it's an asymptotic relationship.

[Ronnie]

So let's see. So Kelly's crying, and she's like, I was drunk. I don't even remember giving a speech that time. And K. Michelle's like, I want to sleep with. I want to sleep with Kelly. Shamia, Gerald, my husband. I want all in. Everybody's doing a cheers on how great this couple is. And now the men go to another room so the ladies can do ladies things.

[Ben]

And Phaedra announces that the next time they get together, it's gonna be everyone in the group and they're gonna do something fun. Okay, Good luck.

[Ronnie]

Not like this party. Although I can't get the song out of my head.

[Ben]

Dude, it actually sounds like a real song that you're singing. Was it by Banks? I forgot her name. Anyway, go on, Phaedra. You were literally singing the baseline of a song like that. You got me Begging for thread. You know, I'm so. I'm really just glad that I always have a grasp of lyrics at all times.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So Phaedra's like, next time, the party's gonna be good. And Kelly's like, give me a hint as a man involved. So Phaedra's like, why is she talking like she doesn't have a man? Because she has a man. Maybe she forgot with all that drinking.

[Ben]

Oh, Sophia goes, close your vagina and say, yes, my vagina is closed.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Speak for your other cast.

[Ben]

So, okay. Michelle's like, well, well, Angela did tell

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

me that you'll end up biting.

[Ben]

And she goes, we didn't even get past the waters. And so Shamia says, well, she came for her marriage. First thing she said was, you're in the NBA because you have easy access to all the players and you. All of them. Because she's talking about her sit down with Angela. And they're like, whoa. And Cynthia's like, well, you know, the way it was explained to us at Lake Bailey was a little different. It kind of felt like you came in, and then she ended up responding to the energy that you were giving.

[Ronnie]

Which is true because she says, she came from my marriage. But the first person to say thing about marriage was you, Shamia, when you said, I understand why your husband leaves and doesn't come home until you're in bed.

[Ben]

And you also walked into the place asking for Bigfoot and Sasquatch. So, like, you already came in with a stinky energy.

[Ronnie]

You came in dressed like a Bruce. Okay? There was no way that a fight was not going to ensue.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So Phaedra's like, yeah. She said she came in with an open heart. And Cynthia's like, yeah, and she was just responding to your energy. And Shamiya's like, oh, really? With you, Bigfoot? Don't even. I don't even like you like that. She's like, okay, maybe we cannot call her Bigfoot chick. I'm gonna call her Bigfoot as long as I want to. Well, now, look, as a member of the Bigfoot community,

[Ben]

Social media goes, well, you wear yours a little bit differently. You're not tripping over your feet. And you can see Cynthia's like, I don't like this. No, you're not supposed to. No, no, no, no. You're. Don't make fun of us ladies who have the big feet at all, okay?

[Ronnie]

It's a chiron that says member of the Bigfoot community. Community.

[Ben]

So Shamia is like, cynthia, she tells us Cynthia, if you were standing on the same ground I was standing on and the earth shook when she walked in the room, you would say the same thing. She's Bigfoot. And I'm not gonna stop. Shamia, this is, this is a dying fight. Because everyone likes Angela. No one likes you. And you are, you're literally body shaming, okay? And like, you know, it's people, people. The, the standing 10 toes down in it, no pun truly intended, is not a good look for you. Like, it's really bad.

[Ronnie]

Gigantic toes down look.

[Ben]

Sometimes about look. Sometimes a body shaming moment kind of like tumbles out. It happens to all of us. We try not to do it. Like, we aspire not to make fun of people's looks, the things that they can't change, etc, the things that they were born with. Like, it's not, it's not fair to shame people. Unfortunately, sometimes these things kind of like tumble out and you're like, well, I was being mean. I was just trying to hurt someone. And I, I was, I was not my best self. But she's basically like, no, this is not tumbling out. This was like, I. I've decided this is my ankle. And I'm gonna keep on saying it because it's like very funny to me. And you can see no one's saying. No one's like laughing. No one's giving her that look like, oh, you're bad. Everyone's looking at her like, really, Shamia?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, really? Camera shell's like, well, I tried to set him up. I was the one who tried to put it together and say, oh, really? Well, she's, I'm like, you can kiss my ass. Like, I mean, what are we even doing here? Kelly's like, okay, well, I touched her ass and it felt really good by the way. And her ass is really soft. You guys. I don't know why anybody's making anybody making fun of Jimmy's ass. Because she means that feels really good. Like, okay, Kelly, you're just, you're distracted, Kelly, Nobody knows what you're talking about. I mean, of all the places to be drunk. It's like a 2pm party at Gerald's house.

[Ben]

I know, Gerald's. Seriously, Commercials.

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[Ben]

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[Ben]

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[Ben]

So let's move on to Midtown Social, where we have a crossover moment, guys. It's a 50% Bravo chat room reunion. Sadly, Hannah Burner and Kate Chastain were not invited to this powwow, but Giselle arrives. Giselle Bryant, that is. And she meets up with Portia. And so Portia's saying, why she loves Giselle. I guess it's for the three people who somehow don't watch Potomac. Also. And so she has to tell everyone. Like, yeah, we did a show called the Chat Room that I guess they can't even call it the Bravo chat room.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And she's like, I just love her. She's one of those friends who's just gonna tell you like it is.

[Ronnie]

Well, first of all, you should return the favor because she's dressed crazy. Giselle's wearing, like, a ball gown to lunch. Like, it's good to know Giselle's fashion doesn't improve with geography. You know, it's just always terrible. And I like how Portia described the show. She's like, we were on an extremely successful television show together. The Chat Room.

[Ben]

The Chat Room. It was a basically a zoom call that Bravo put up because they needed to put anything up with strange chemistry. And it got canceled. God, it was what. What a ride it was. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So they talk about how Giselle is in town because she did beyond the Gates, the soap opera, and then they order lychee martinis, which we're seeing a lot this week on Broadway. Bravo. I didn't know people were still doing that lychee martini thing. I thought that was over.

[Ben]

I never got into it. I have to say. I've never really been that into lychees. They're, like, fine. I just think they're, like, not amazing. I don't know. I'm gonna make it about me, guys. I don't know people, why people are still doing. I don't like them. So I can't believe that society at large is still doing it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I just didn't know. I thought that was, like, a fad that left, but here it is. Yeah, they're talking about Portia having to go to court, and then we're talking about Shamia, and Portia's like, oh, my God, not you having bullet points. She's like, yes, I've talked to you all about Yalls relationship, and I've rooted for you all being better. Where are you today? Where are you and Shamia today? Go ahead.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

We rest the case. I don't have any hard feelings. I'm just, like, not harboring anything against her anymore.

[Ben]

And the producer asks, like, how do you feel about not being invited to Gerald's surprise party?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

That's her house and, you know, she doesn't want me to come, then that's cool. Until the day that shimmy actually, like, comes by and brings drama to my face. I'm still gonna speak to you with a, you know, hey.

[Ben]

They are basically in a civility off right now because neither one of them wants to be the one that gets busted at the reunion. So they are. They are being extra nice to each other and, like, not being. Not, like, popping off or anything or not being shady because they want to be. They want to be the better person. By the way, this is also what people do outside of reality tv, just in general, when they interact with people. This is actually called normal behavior. But on this show, it's like, oh, my God, look at her not saying something awful about Shamia.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. She's like, whatever. Hate me all you want to. I don't. I don't need to make it worse by being mean. You know, she's already lost her acting career, God bless her. So now outside a building, there's a huge line, and guess what? It's people auditioning for Pinkies. So he can't paying you for this show. Yeah, I think she still owes money to her line cooks from, like, four years ago. Why would you audition for Pinky show? You're not getting paid. We all know you're not getting paid. What is this even about?

[Ben]

Well, it's the first casting call for Edgewood, which is what? The. The name of this show is called

[Ronnie]

Edgewood, which is what the edges will be made out of. Because the budget is so low, your edges are going to be popsicle sticks on this show.

[Ben]

So it's. It's. I'm. I'm assuming it's the street that she was, like, raised on or something like that. Feels very much like that. So she says, you know, I want people who can. Who can convey my story in a way where it feels natural and authentic. Like, I need the best of the best. Yes. That this $40,000 TV pilot needs the best of the best to convey Pinky Cole's rise from Maury Povich, producer to vegan purveyor in bankruptcy.

[Ronnie]

So Drew comes up, and, of course, she's being driven. By the way, I'd just like to remind everybody that Drew also is broke.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And has no money to be. Why are you paying for drivers? It just makes me crazy. Like, if I see. So if I see my friend struggling and they're like. They show up with, like, an Uber Black, I'm like, what are you doing? You're gonna ask me for $20 later? And you just took an Uber Black? Come on.

[Ben]

Yeah, so. So she's. She's. She pulls up Danny, the assistant. The. The. Has dropped her off. Danny, who was. That Was. Was in the mix with the group last week. So there's a big line of people, and. And Drew skips the whole line. She's like, I'm sorry. I'm gonna take the Julia Roberts entrance. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. So she comes in, and Drew sees Shamia waiting and waiting to do her audition. Andrew's like, oh, what's going.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

I wasn't expecting to see you. And basically, they're giving. They're doing the audition. Audition line, sizing up of each other. Like, really? What. What role are you going out for? The role of Pinky. Really? Oh, okay. Wow. I'm going up for that as well. Okay. It's like, very much an actress on actress violence moment.

[Ronnie]

And Shamia tells us that Pinky called out of the blue and said, when I saw you in that movie, don't bring your man to Atlanta, I felt I needed that kind of energy in my scripted series, and I would love it if you'd audition. Sick. Oh, my God. Yes, I will. I do not have to make. Make love to anybody, do I? As long as you can promise me there are no shirtless men anywhere near me, Gerald will be fine with this.

[Ben]

So Shamia was like, send me this sides asap. And hopefully Pinky didn't just send a whole bunch of, like, vegan Mac and cheese and other sides. So Drew, and it's an acting joke, guys. Sides are what people use when they're reading. They're learning their lines when they're actors. Little industry talk.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think they got it. I think you're good.

[Ben]

So here's the thing. When you're an actor, there's dialogue, and you have to memorize it, and sometimes it needs to be written down first. Are you guys following me?

[Ronnie]

Okay, so Drew's like, oh, you're auditioning for this? She's like, yeah. And she's like, oh, wow, look at you. You're so busy. Shamia auditioning for things. She goes, well, what about you? She goes, oh, I don't know the role. So she goes, you want to look at the lines. She's like, no, I have a team that handles my bookings, and there's a way that works for actors. It needs to go through my new manager, Kian. And then with that, there's a proper booking that takes place. Girl, stop pretending you're not going through backstage like everybody else and showing up to cattle calls. Listen, times are tough.

[Ben]

Listen, I, I. In some ways, I understand what she means, because, you know, Drew. Drew has a resume. It is longer than what K. Michelle says. But, like, Drew has act, legitimate acting credits. And Binky is like, this is, like. This is like a podunk production. And, you know when you. When you just want, like, a big name, you don't make them audition. You just book them, Right? Like, I sort of get what she's saying. That being said, Drew, we've seen what's been going on with your financials, okay? A job is a job. So don't, like, get. Get those sides. Learn your lines.

[Ronnie]

Also, what are you doing here?

[Ben]

And what are you doing here? If you're booked, you don't go to the audition.

[Ronnie]

By the way, she just shows up to the audition to not audition and be like, oh, yeah, I don't do

[Ben]

that to show her support.

[Ronnie]

It even sadder that you're showing up, like, looking confused that you're not offered the role.

[Ben]

It's like she wanted to walk down right now.

[Ronnie]

I mean, I don't care what anybody says. She's hilarious. That she just shows up to this audition and then acts confused. Like, audition. What would I be here to audition? You're at an audition.

[Ben]

She. I think she just wanted to walk in front of that giant line of auditioners and be like, oh, I already got the job. Job.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So what you guys are gonna be auditioning for, it's gonna be for a smaller role. It won't be my role because I. I already got the lead. Like, it was some weird ego boost thing, and it was so hilariously diluted. It's just like, she just. She always finds new and exciting ways to be ridiculous.

[Ronnie]

So we see a flashback to this phone call where Drew is FaceTiming her. And Drew's like, okay, I'm gonna. I'll text you my email address and you can send me the material. And Pinky says, okay. Andrew's like, but I'm here to support her. You know, put on the audition. No, no. Do you want me to read it with you, though? Person who has to audition for things, I can do that. I'm a charitable person.

[Ben]

Shamia's like, yeah, well, this is like a real audition for me, so, you know, it's okay. She's like, okay, girl, well, I'm gonna leave you to learn your lines like an unbooked person would, and I just want you to kill it. Seriously, I just want that for you. I want you to know what it's like to actually act on camera. Oh, my God. It's basically secondhand nature for me. Now I'm just gonna go in the room and remind everyone that I'm already booked by.

[Ronnie]

So she walks into the audition room and she's like, oh, my God, Tori.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Hey.

[Ronnie]

Oh, we go way back. She's an amazing actress. So whenever I see her, I'm like, actor, actor. We give each other the actor high five. Which is where you pretend you're high fiving, but you don't actually do it.

[Ben]

Andrew's like, oh, I wasn't planning on auditioning. Which is, by the way, kind of rude to say. I mean, you're also. There's like a panel of six people at a table, and you're standing in front of them, and then you're saying you're not auditioning. So naturally is like, okay, No, I was just coming to support, and I was just, you know, and just to do some guiding, I wanted to guide on the process. I. You know, I did learn the Utah Hagen method. So wait, hold on. This is me feeling something. Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. I'm done.

[Ronnie]

Hold on. I wanted to show you before I go the UDA Hagen Dawes method. Wait, hold on. Brain freeze. Brain freeze. Thank you.

[Ben]

I just had some of that last night. I'm not gonna lie. Egan does. That's so silly. So. So she's like, yeah, I'm just here to support you. And I'm just here to support you, my girl. But, like, I would want to come in here and just like, half step it. Piggy's like, okay, well, you know, I'm disappointed. I'm gonna be honest. Drew, I wanted you to come and audition. She goes, no, no. I mean, when you said that, I was like, an audition, like, me, Drew Sedora, I mean, I pretty much have an Oscar. So I said, send me the script.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Right?

[Ronnie]

And so now we hear Pinky side. She's like, so I called Drew and I say, come audition for this cattle call without a script, without some. Oh, no. And Drew goes, come audition for a cattle call without a script, without some sides. Like, that's just not how it works. And Pinky's like, drew, Told me to send her the sides. Her manager got on the phone and said, send it to me. Well, I really do like to do things in a decent order. We did give her all the agency information, and she chose not to follow it. Really? How did you know what time the audition was and where it was? Yeah, because you're here at the right time in the right room. So are you. Were you guessing?

[Ben]

You cannot tell me that Pinky just never sent something. I'm sorry, Pinky. You can say a lot of things about Pinky, but I'm sure that she is the type that if you give her your email, she writes that email right away. I feel like she's very on top of. Like, I. I do get that sense. She may not be good with her money, but, like, I think that she would have totally emailed the sides. And. And based on what we saw of Drew's team last week and just of what we've seen of Drew over the past five years or so, like, there's no way. I believe that Pinky was the one who fumbled this opportunity, and her team acted in a normal, unprofessional way.

[Ronnie]

Well, that's the thing, because Drew's insinuating. She told them to send the sides, but they didn't. But we don't actually get that out. Nobody says they didn't send the sides, technically. So which is it?

[Ben]

Well, Pinky. Pinky does say that because she said she never. They never gave her the email address. Yeah, she does say that in a little bit.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, I don't have time to play cat and mouse with Drew. So, fine, now you think you're too good for the project. And she's like, oh, I've done box office movies, but I never take any opportunities for granted.

[Ben]

Vicki goes, what box office? FedEx box ups box? What box office friend? She's like, you know, at certain levels, you know, when my. With my agent involved, it's just like,

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

we got to do things the right way.

[Ben]

Okay. So she's like, put some respect on my name. Check my IMDb I've worked with John Travolta, Martin Lawrence, and I have a movie out in theaters right now, you may remember. It stars a man dressed in a spirit Halloween shop, alien costume, killing me outside an suv. That's great.

[Ronnie]

So that was really out in theaters.

[Ben]

I think it was the theater that. That she showed it in.

[Ronnie]

That was it.

[Ben]

I. I have to. I can't imagine that it had a theatrical release or very. Anything very wide.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, okay, well, you ain't got to go home, but you got to get the hell out of here. She goes, kicking me out? Are we kicking me out? She goes, yeah, I'm kicking you out. Love you, though. She's like, I drove an hour. Why? Why did you drive an hour? What, are you here to watch the auditions and help them audition? What does she think she's doing?

[Ben]

I think she did. She must have thought that that's what she was gonna be doing. I think she thought that she'd be sitting behind that desk and would be. She was gonna be part of this panel. So she's, like, shocked that she drove an hour. And Pinky's like, I love you. I love you. Give me some love for real. She's, well, I hope you felt the love and support, because, like, now I'm not really feeling so great. She's like, well, no, I do love you. I just. I wanted you to audition, but I understand. I respect the craft. I respect the craft.

[Ronnie]

After, call Keon after, and he'll call me maybe and tell me that you're there. Okay?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I'm very busy. Very busy.

[Ben]

Biggie's like, I thought that this was an audition, and she did not say yes. When I asked her, she said, send me everything. And I asked her for the email, and she never sent me the email.

[Ronnie]

Okay, well, you should have found a way her sides. I mean, for Christ's sake, you guys work on a show together. You couldn't get her email address.

[Ben]

I know that that was a little crazy, and you should follow up if this is someone that big that you want to have come. But I still think. I just don't think true is the more ridiculous in this situation.

[Ronnie]

They're both pretty ridiculous. They're both. They're both pretty ridiculous, but I love it.

[Ben]

Yeah. Shamia does her audition, though. She comes in and she does it, and she actually does a pretty nice job. I thought she was. She was pretty decent. And so Pinky is like, you know, listen, you came in here, like, I'm not going to try to pull the friend card. I'm coming in to really audition for the role, and people like you all are going to succeed in real life. This. If there's anything that this audition process shows, it's going to see who is going to really, like, explode in their careers, depending on how well they do in Pinky Cole's auditions.

[Ronnie]

And to me is like, even if I don't get the part, I'm on the right path. I've got this Acting check. Rum check. I'm on my way. Who doesn't want to see an Oscar winning actress with a rum bottle shaped like their ass? I know this world is about to all be mine. All right, let's go to K. Michelle's house. Check. I need a chandelier in here.

[Ben]

So Phaedra is going to be coming over and K. Michelle says, I've tried

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

everything in my life not to like Phaedra, but when it comes to speaking what it is, I feel like I'm most relatable to Phaedra. Might be there something I can build a friendship from.

[Ben]

It is funny because she has tried to not like Phaedra and Phaedra has not given her anything to dislike, but she keeps on trying to dislike her. So finally she's kind of relenting. And so she talks about how she is very Southern.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

She goes, I let, I said, let me bring, bring her, bring her over and see what type of pie she brings to my house. And that will show me the type of woman that she is dealing with. And she brought me a pecan piece and what it says is that she is a nut. And I'm with it.

[Ben]

Very literal interpretation.

[Ronnie]

I knew she'd respect Southerness and I want to see how much of a country girl she is. So she's going to take her fishing and she's going to prove that she's Southern by dipping hot dogs and Kool Aid so they look like bloody. Whatever, bloody meat and throwing them to the fish.

[Ben]

And garlic powder too. Don't forget. She pulls, she pulls up this like plastic, the Ziploc bag of this stuff. And Vajra's like, what? Where did you get that from?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Because, oh, the Caucasian man with beards.

[Ronnie]

She watched one Duck Dynasty and now she's ready to go.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So neither one of them knows how to fish, which is buried, this show

[Ben]

for all the talk about being a country girl. Like, I don't even know how to fish. But I was like, I feel like this is not how you do it. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

They kind of put one of the hot dogs on a hook and just kind of drop the string in there and then scream a lot.

[Ben]

Yeah. And then like flop around. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So Phaedra's like, well, this is a beautiful start to being a newlywed. Now how do you feel? Because being a newlywed was hard for me. It was very, very hard. I don't know if you've seen the past 10 seasons of the show show, but wow.

[Ben]

Things, things, things went bad.

[Ronnie]

We went from one Romantic, sexual pickle shoot. Everything went downhill after that.

[Ben]

Power drills in the garage. It was a scary moment. So then Phaedra is saying that she's like, you got to make a. A vision board of what you see this relationship becoming, you know? And k. Michelle's like, you know, I.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

You know, I just would like to my best of friends.

[Ben]

And she talks about doing ivf and it was, like, the worst for her, and she felt like she went crazy. And she goes like, I mean, I

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

was crazier than I am now.

[Ben]

And Paige Patron makes a face like, wow, that's really crazy.

[Ronnie]

She's like, I'm going with the donor this time. And he's not against it because he wants a child, you know, from him, and that's still my child. So we're going to do it that way. Mm. And I saw you holding Shamir's baby baby at the party. Oh, she's just so cute. I want one a little baby like that. That's okay. So now they. Now Phaedra gets messy, and she's like, but I noticed Portia wasn't invited. Do you know why? She, like, now, you know, my Portia wasn't invited. Don't get messy in here. Do not get in here.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. I love the way Phaedra did that. Do you know why? And she gives that face like, eek. Oh, geez. How terrible. And Phaedra's like, well, I just wanted us to have.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I just.

[Ben]

When we. When we say we're gonna have a good time, we need to have a good time, you know? And, you know, you see that Drew is going to be singing the national anthem soon. And Kim.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Michelle's like, well, that is amazing for her.

[Ben]

And we see that Drew has sent out a text saying, ladies, please join me this Saturday. I want to serenade y' all as I'm singing the national anthem, the charity event.

[Ronnie]

I thought this scene was really cute because it was Phaedra coming back and being, like, a big sorority sister to her. She's like, okay, now, I'm here to support you, and I know you don't like being messy and this and that, so we're gonna ease you into the mess. Okay? I'm gonna hold your hand here. Do you know why Portia wasn't invited? She's, like, uncomfortable. Okay. So let's shift to something you're more comfortable with. Would you like to hate on Drew? Here's an opportunity to hate on Drew. It's, like, so sweet, you know, like, holding your hand.

[Ben]

So, okay, Michelle's like, oh, like, do you want to go to this thing with Drew singing in the national anthem?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And she's like.

[Ben]

She's like, you don't want to come? She's like. She's like, no, but why not? And then we have a flashback to Drew at the Reiki dinner going, yodel your ass out. Obviously you don't fit in.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I will. I will yodel all up in your.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, well, where? You tell me I don't belong? No, I don't belong around you. At the bottom.

[Ben]

At the bottom, child, if we are good, if we're all gonna get along, sometimes we just gotta do things that might not be comfortable, but for the greater good of the group. But think about coming. You should do that. Even though I won't be there.

[Ronnie]

I'm already sick. No, can't go. Can't make it. She's like, okay, well, I'll send you some theraflu. So then we go to the Rich in Spirit celebrity charity software ball game,

[Ben]

and Drew is arriving, and she's excited to sing the national anthem because it's for rich Homie Kwan. It's a memorial event and that. And she was. She's saying how he was a rising icon in Atlanta, and he. And he passed away tragically. And so Rich as in spirit is throwing this event for the community. And it's a big. It's like a big, important community building event. So she's really honored to sing at it.

[Ronnie]

So now we see a flashback to the day before, talking about who's coming to this party. Angela's not going to come. It's just going to be Drew, Pinky, and Shamia and once others leave early. So we come back, and Shamia is asking Drew if she wants to practice. And she's like, I already practiced. I practiced what I did. Have professionals do it. Keon told my agent, my agent told my manager, My manager told a pianist. My pianist got the music, practiced it.

[Ben]

And then Shamia starts talking about how she's also sang the national or sung the national anthem for the NFL, the NBA. And she was like, I know John Travolta. She's like, by the way, how did your audition go? How did that go for that sweet little production? And Pinky's like, well, she killed it, you know, by the way, Drew didn't audition. Everyone. It's like, did an audition for Pinky Cole's $40,000 TV pilot.

[Ronnie]

So Keon comes up to get Drew ready for her big performance. She's like, I'm so grateful for Keon to take me out of there because I have to sing, and they're wearing me very, very thin.

[Ben]

And now other people arrive. Portia and Kelly show up, and they release dubs in the air. And now it's time for Drew to sing. And Drew does a good job. She sings a really nice version of the national anthem. Anthem. And meanwhile, Kelly and Portia start talking, and, you know, Kelly's like, hello, Portia. How are you today?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

She's like, I'm good. How are you?

[Ben]

They're being very polite, and then they're all watching, and they're even like, you know, they're watching Drew sing the song, and even Shamia is like, I think Drew did a good job, even though Shamia does not like Drew these days.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So in the parking lot, k. Michelle's still in her car, and Phaedra calls her, and she's like, how are you doing? She's like, but you're not here at this event. Where are you? She's like, oh, unfortunately, I can't make it. Well, I'm just sitting in the car. She goes, well, salute to God. Hallelujah.

[Ben]

So Phaedra had to skip the event because Mr. President tore his MCL and he had to get his knee drained. Poor guy.

[Ronnie]

And then.

[Ben]

So. So Phaedra's like, are you going to get out of the car? You're going to get out of the car, right? You're not just going to sit in the parking lot in your car like a lunatic?

[Ronnie]

I'm just gonna leave, okay? I'll go in and support the mom and everything. The family, and tell them hello. But, you know, it's not even about Drew singing a national anthem today. I'm not supporting that. So she goes in and says hello to the family and stuff. And then

[Ben]

Drew's shocked. Drew's shocked that she's there. She's like, wait a minute. Really?

[Ronnie]

You're here?

[Ben]

K. Michelle's like, yes.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Really?

[Ben]

And then she goes, well, thank you for showing up.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And she's like, how are you doing, Drew? She's like, why are you. And Portia's like, why are you late?

[Ben]

So Kim Shell's like, girl. Andrew's like, well, she said she wasn't even coming. And camera.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

She's like, well, I'm actually here for the family, not for you, but I'm happy that we're here. She was like, what?

[Ben]

You're not here for me?

[Ronnie]

What?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

She's like, yeah, I'm checking for the family.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, well, I was sick, and I don't like going places I don't belong. So there. But, you know, you did say that. Remember? You shaded me by saying I didn't belong. Andrew's like, oh, oh, okay, I understand. It's. I. It's just hard because you speak in, like, segments of sentences, so it's really hard to put the segments together, Kim.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And she goes, so you don't understand what just.

[Ben]

Well, I. I know full sentences with punctuations and adjectives, especially when they've been sent on small pieces of paper so I can learn them before an audition that I'm not going to do anyway.

[Ronnie]

Punctuation and adjectives. I am Ms. Florida a. M. University. I got accepted into three law schools. I don't have to present anything to you.

[Ben]

She was like, so you're saying that

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I said something to you that.

[Ben]

That you didn't like?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Like, what did I say? She's like, a lot of things, Drew. She's like, well, I mean, you need

[Ben]

to start speaking up for yourself.

[Ronnie]

It's like, well, I'm doing very good at controlling myself, and I've spoken up enough about it, okay? She goes, well, I haven't heard anything. Did you send it to Keon Shamira's?

[Ben]

Like, so how did you feel about your performance? Oh, gosh. Kay. You didn't see it? Okay, let me show you it. I'm gonna show you Drew's performance. I recorded it and came.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And she's like, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm just gonna be. I don't need to say this. I'm gonna go to the bathroom. This is my thing. I do. I go to the bathroom, but I

[Ben]

don't want to deal with something.

[Ronnie]

Smith's like, take it to the bathroom with you. Trust me, it's better when you're pooping.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Now, I heard she did good. You know, she's done it 50 to 11 to 11 times, so she should have had it done perfectly, you know?

[Ronnie]

And I'm gonna keep doing it too. I'm just gonna keep doing it anywhere they'll allow me. And it's like, you should. So she gets up and grabs her purse, and we all know that she's about to bolt. And Shamia's like, leave your purse. I'm gonna keep your purse here. She goes, no, no, I need it for the bathroom. She goes, if you don't leave your purse, you're leaving.

[Ben]

Yeah. So she was like, no.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Okay, well, I'm just gonna use the bathroom. Excuse me.

[Ben]

And so she means. So she goes. And then Kay is, like, telling the

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producer, like, that motherfucker there, she knows me so damn well.

[Ben]

So we go back to the table,

[Ronnie]

at the table, and shimmy is like, wow, great note. When you're like, free. Free. She's like, yeah, that was good time. She goes, baby, free went on for three minutes. You did your big one there. That was your big one, huh?

[Ben]

So they're like, just, you know, chatting about this performance. And then they see outside. We didn't mention this, but we've segued from the softball game to a restaurant now. And they're sitting at the table outside, and they see on the other side of, like, the defense that K. Michelle has hopped into her SUV and she's driving off, even leaving her bag behind.

[Ronnie]

She left her purse there. She didn't care. She's like, I don't care. I'm out of here.

[Ben]

So they're like, what? What? They're like, well, this is crazy.

[Ronnie]

Shamir's like, like, you're leaving in my car? You're going to drive the getaway car and leave me on the crime scene? Like, she said, I'm hungry and I don't even need my purse or anything. They're like, damn.

[Ben]

Drew goes, not. She left the Chanel. I rattle her that much? Yeah, I guess so. She's like, I have not done anything to this lady, and if you're gonna be a good friend of her, you need to hold her accountable.

[Ronnie]

Shamiya's like, I'll hold you both accountable. She's like, but I never said anything to her that was negative. She goes, well, it did feel like you kept me saying her name with your dude. Oh, my God.

[Ben]

What?

[Ronnie]

Drew is like, give me a break.

[Ben]

Listen, we come down on Drew for a lot of things, but one thing that we both, I think, agree on is that, like, Drew really was. Did not seem like she was dead set on trying to stir up something with black and K. Michelle. And she knows it, too.

[Ronnie]

So Drew's like, well, you know, I'm not gonna. I'm not talking to the spokesperson, honey, you're speaking things that are false and lies. And she's like, well, that'. See, you know what? You did that last year when I was just trying to be nice. She goes, because you were being somebody's lap dog, and now you're being her lap dog, so let's keep it 100. She goes, wow. I'm sitting here saying, I understand both sides, and you just called me her lap Dog. You know what? I think you're rude, and I don't want to keep talking to you.

[Ben]

Well, she doesn't have a side. I'm letting you have the floor about what you feel. What is. What does Shamia feel? Who is Shamia? Okay. Thank you, Drew. Thank you.

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Well, we don't know.

[Ben]

We still don't know. And she is like, you are. You're already name calling and being nasty to me. Girl, why am I even trying? Does Shamir know that calling someone a lap dog is not name calling? I think she's, like, really caught up on the dog part of it because obviously it's, you know, no one wants to be called a dog. And there's a storied history of calling women dogs, and it's, like, not nice. But, like, calling someone a lap dog is different. When you call someone a lap dog, you're saying that you are. You're, like, advocating on behalf of someone sort of. Like, you're almost like you're. You're in a. I. I'm not even bothering getting the definition. But we all know what a lap dog is.

[Ronnie]

Yes. Shamia's long term thing that everybody is always saying that she does everything for Portia, and she's always fighting Portia's battle, and so now she's not friends with Portia, and she thought she would finally escape that, and they're still using it against her for this new thing, but it's also true again. So now Kay's assistant comes to the patio to grab Kay's purse, and Shamia's like, I'm leaving too. Andrew's like, well, I'm gonna enjoy this lemon drop. So she's like, good luck with that next national anthem. Oh, good one, Shamia. She's like, girl, yeah, I didn't even hear that. But I'm gonna let it go. So then outside the restaurant, Shamia is asking Kay to drop her off. She's like, at least give me a ride. And they start scream. Singing the national anthem out the window

[Ben]

at Drew because K. Michelle's blasting it in her car. So shady. So silly. And that's pretty much the way the episode ends.

[Ronnie]

This show.

[Ben]

Yeah, this show. A national anthem fight. Love it. Love to see it.

[Ronnie]

All right, everybody, thank you so much for being here. We will talk to you next time. Bye. Bye.

[Ben]

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