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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what grins. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello Ben. Hi.
Ben
How's it going?
Ronnie
Welcome to the show everybody. Happy Monday. I'm Kai. It's in June. We're in June now. Wow.
Ben
June 8th. June 8th. Really fabulous day. Beautiful. We're both here in New York. I just happen to be at my parents house. And you're in the fancy Acast studios which is lovely. Look, cozy, nice little chair, nice little wood paneling. You all bundled up, you look like you look like you're having the time of your life.
Ronnie
I am. Basically all my dreams are coming true.
Ben
I'm drinking some Duncan coffee.
Ronnie
Lip stuff.
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Love it.
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What could you ask for? And real bars of Rhode Island. Also today we have Amazon Live and crappy hours to join us for those a little bit later. But for now we're on Real Housewives of Rhode Island Season 1, Episode 11 Stay cold and continue on.
Ben
I know. You know, I was a bit shocked that next week is the season finale. I was really shocked. Yeah. I felt like the energy at the end of this episode was leading up to cash trip but I guess since its first season they just, it's more of an experiment. So their cash trip was spending that weekend in that mansion in Newport. But you know, but like the way they were all talking about going to Block Island, I was like, okay, they're gonna have a regional cash trip because they're, you know, there's their first season but it's actually just gonna be the season finale next week. It's shocking.
Ronnie
Yeah. That's so sad. I feel like you're not a Real Housewives show until you embarrass America and some. Yeah, I mean, what the hell.
Ben
Yeah, it's a little weird. I, I also feel like there's like so much stuff happening on the show. I feel like things are, they're escalating in a way where it feels like just having one more episode doesn't feel quite enough. Although I do love a 12 episode season. I'm not complaining about the length of the season, but it just is surprising. It feels like, oh my goodness, there's still, there's so much that needs to be addressed that needs to be taken care of and, and whatnot, you know. I'm shocked. Shocked.
Ronnie
Yeah. I mean I don't know how much there is to be Addressed, really. I mean, Rulis husband's cheating on her every week. And then, I mean, I think these. These crazy ladies will be over it in two seconds and then fight again. So it's pretty good. It's a good 12. But I do need the vacation.
Ben
Yeah. I am. Like, we've had a lot of Bravo lately, and so I'm like, sort of. I'm sort of like, okay, for another show. Sort of settling up for the season, sort of wrapping up and being done so we can, like, have a little bit more time on our schedule just to. Just to relax for a moment.
Ronnie
Anyway, you know, House of the Dragon comes back soon.
Ben
Oh, yeah, that.
Ronnie
We've got Love island, which is on 97 hours a week. Oh, my God. Just make it. They've made out with so many people on that show. I mean, they always make out a lot, but I don't remember it ever being something where they literally just go person to person and every single person makes out. Right.
Ben
I know that the premiere was crazy. They just, like, all made out all together. Let's get this over.
Ronnie
Like, nobody even cares, you know? You all back to making out with everybody just blowing out birthday candles, like, right on the cake.
Ben
Yeah, it's just. It's just a lot of spit is getting swapped amongst all the people. All those idiots.
Ronnie
Howard. None of those hot guys making out with each other.
Ben
It could happen soon. You never know.
Ronnie
I hope so, because, geez, I feel like everything's gotten so much more fluid except on that show, you know, I mean, they've got more fluids, but I'm
Ben
about to say fluids are not an issue on Love Island.
Ronnie
Yeah, but the fluidity of the people, you know, I could. I could handle more. Okay. So anyway, point is. Oh, let's get to some Rhode island stuff. So there was some controversy last week because I was arguing that the hair tug wasn't really like a hair pull. It was just more of, like, a threatening, like, you listen to me, Dolly, I could pull your hair, but I'm not really. And I got a lot of letters about that. Okay, you can have it. I mean, look, I'm just saying, like, in the scheme of Housewives, to me, it wasn't the most violent thing I've ever seen. But, you know, I still think you shouldn't touch people. I always said that.
Ben
But, yeah, I. I remember I watched it the night before, and I saw the hand in the hair, and I was like, in my mind, I was like, oh, that's bad. Like, don't do that. Like, we Know, don't touch the hair. If in a tense moment, don't touch the hair. Especially when you just got mad that Jo Ellen had, like, touched you on the knee in a sort of, like, reassuring way, like, john, touch me, dad, touch me, dad, touch me. And now you're gonna, like, put your hand in her hair. I don't even remember what I said on the podcast. I never remember what I said, but I do. I, I, I seem to remember feeling like the, the kicking of the chair was actually more problematic for me because I'm like, now you're actually, you're basically shoving someone that is like, you're, you're, and you're going to hide behind the fact that your foot was on the wooden leg of the chair and that that's not so. Therefore it's not any sort of physical assault. But like, that. I think we all, either way, I, I don't know, we got some flack for not, like, dwelling on the hair thing longer to the point where, you know, someone even said, like, that we didn't even watch the show, that we didn't even, like, actually, we just relied purely on the notes. If I knew that was an option for some of these shows, I would have done it. I can assure you all, I'm watching every single one of these shows.
Ronnie
I mean, give me a break. I don't. We couldn't do. If we didn't watch it. Been on, you know, one thing. We're where it's important for us to be honest about what we're doing. Right. So when we ended up hiring note takers a couple of years ago, we're very honest about it. We're not going to be like, oh, we're still doing all, you know, 20 pages of notes by ourself. We did that for 13 years. But now we have people that take the notes. But that doesn't mean we don't watch the shows. And that's kind of a ridiculous allegation. I mean, look, if we miss things sometimes, which we do, or we get things wrong sometimes, which we do, it's not because we're lazy. It's because we're old.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
And there's, there is something to be said for that.
Ben
And people forget how much we also mess things up when we were taking our own notes. Okay. Like, and I can't remember. I can't remember shit from this morning. Okay. So sometimes, like, also, it's possible, like, once in a while I'm watching a TV show and I, my eyes look elsewhere in the room. And then I return my eyes to the tv. It can last all of, like, two seconds. And it's like the moment I do that, it's like I missed some important thing about how someone's fingers were in someone's hair. And it's like, oh, my God. Like, I looked away. I looked. But I did actually see the fingers in the hair.
Ronnie
Yeah. I was like, I mean, look, we went to dinner the other night, and if Ben told you what happened at dinner and I told you what happened at dinner, there would be two completely different stories, and we would both stand by them. That's how memory works. I don't know what to tell you, but I do remember the hair pull. I did watch the hair pull, and I still remember the hair pull not being that big a video. Sorry, but we hear you. I just wanted to answer you. I think that you Slam pig. You are watching the shows.
Ben
We are watching it. I was, like, really upset by that. I'm not gonna lie. I was really, really offended. But I, I, I will say this, though. There are some things where you watch it and you're like, whoa, what was that? And you, like, I, like, will go, I'll rewind and watch it again and be like, oh, upon second doing this or that, whatever. And I, I did feel like when I watched it, when I, when we were accused of this, I, of course, went back and looked at the scene, and I was like, oh, that's interesting, because in my memory, she had sort of put her finger in there. She was, like, touching the hair. And then looking back, she had sort of actually kind of like, put her fingers in and kind of clawed down. It was like a little bit more than just touching the hair, a little bit less than tugging. But it was something. But the point was that I didn't go back the first time around. I just saw the hand of the hair, and I just kept going forward with the show, and that's what I based my experience off of. Slow gentle was like a. I took
Ronnie
it as a very threatening, like, listen, I could grab you. I could pull you. Listen here, Dar. Listen here, Dar. It was very threatening, you know?
Ben
Well, she is scary, and she, she hates. She hates that about herself. And she's trying so hard to, to, to not be scary. It's almost like she came onto the show to finally put to bed all the rumors that she's scary. She's like, you know, I'm gonna do. I'm go on to reality tv, and everyone's gonna see I'm a nice person. I'm sick of, like, for 20 years in Rhode island, people say I'm scary. I'm not scary. I'm gonna go on to Rhode Island. I'm gonna be on Bravo tv. People scare my sweetheart, and she goes on to. Onto the show, and everyone's like, damn, you're terrifying. She's scary.
Ronnie
Nightmare Before Christmas, wherein. Or whatever wants to be Santa Claus because Santa Claus. Everybody loves Santa Claus, and he's so happy. And she just wants to be. He wants to be Santa Claus, so he goes to Santa Claus world and scares the out of everybody and ruins Christmas because he's terrifying. Just be happy. Being mayor of scary town is.
Ben
Yeah, it's an asset, really.
Ronnie
Yeah. No one wants to see a shark with a bow in its hair. You know, we want to see this shark ripping off legs. Like, there would be no Shark week if sharks could hug.
Ben
No, no. Yeah, exactly. It's also, like, honestly hypocritical. I. I do feel like regardless of where we land on what the hair looked like, and I'm sure there'll be. People be like, well, you don't have long hair. You don'. Hand. The way that the hand and the hair, it feels. It feels much worse than. Look, regardless of any of that, what I will say is that if Joellen did the exact same thing to. To what's her face's hair, then I guarantee that Liz would have flipped the out, because again, Liz.
Ronnie
She'd be dead.
Ben
Dead and done. Because Liz was already upset when Joellen touched her to be like. Like, please share with me. And she was already mad about the touching there. So if Joellen even touched Liz's hair.
Ronnie
Completely. Right? And I just. I meet people where they're at. You know what I mean? And it should. It should be unfair for different people to have different rules, right? Like, the rules should be the same for everybody, but they're just not. I mean, look at the court system. It's just not the same for everybody. We all know that. And I think that when you have a defendant like Liz, you know, if I was Liz's lawyer and I was defending this in court, I would say. But look at what she could have done. She's terrifying. She's probably connected to the mafia. She's got a blue tongue still from all these damn gummies she's been testing. She probably killed somebody. I mean, let's face it. This woman has probably taken that fishing boat out and dumped bodies into the. Into the sound or whatever. So totally what she could have done. And this wasn't that big of a deal.
Ben
Like, I. I wait. The crux for those. For those who need, like, a summary, Ronnie's basically saying, look, Liz could have, like, murdered her. So I think this is not so bad.
Ronnie
Yeah. That is what I'm saying.
Ben
It's either death or a hair pull. And you get to choose which way
Ronnie
you want Team Liz. Because I also think that, no, I'm not really teamless, because, look, you should never put your hands on anybody or kick their chair. Also, I'm team chair. As a person who's in the restaurant service industry for so long, I don't believe in people manhandling chairs or moving things around in a restaurant. I don't like that either. But, you know, she could have been a lot worse. Okay. And also, I think that Joellen is an instigator. I think Joellen's really getting off easy with the audience. When somebody walks away from you in an argument and then walks away again and then walks away again, and then walks away again. You know, Jo Ellen really is getting up in her face over and over with her shaky head and doing all of this stuff. She's instigating in a lot of ways that I think people aren't catching on to yet, because she's really framed herself as a victim. Like, even in this show, she's like, well, I. I guess I'll just. I'll just sweep it under the rug, just like I had to do when I was a child. I was like, all right, now you're bringing your childhood trauma into it. So Joellen's not as innocent as she's getting off. I think, think.
Ben
I think I'm going to be team chair also, because the truth is, I'm definitely not team Liz in this. And I don't know how people got that impression of me last week. And I'm not trying to revise to make people happy. Like, I was not Team Liz.
Ronnie
I think that was one where you got. You got swept up in the.
Ben
Well, I'm. I'm happy to be swept up with the Ronnie of it all, but I think. I think there were. I. I probably said something along the lines of, like, I understood why Liz was frustrated with Joelle because she just wanted some peace. She just needed to, like, come down. She wanted someone to. She wanted to be advocated for. But I think that ultimately, like, Liz needed to drop it. It was a stupid point that she was. She was dying on the cross for, and it was. It was a stupid point. And then she was immature in how she Handled it. Handled it afterwards. She was very passive aggressive and crazy. I 100 also think that Joellen should have not gone after her. She was so determined to try to, like, make things all right. No. Okay. And, like, if you wanted to do right by Liz, you know, your opportunity was in the car when you. You could have said, look, Liz, look, Alicia, I don't think Liz means it in this way. Now. I'm not. Again, I'm not standing up for what Liz was saying or doing. I'm saying, like, that would have been Joanne's moment to be more of the hero if she wanted to be a hero. But I think she should have stayed back. So I think Joellen did contribute to it. I think Liz was the greater offender. And that's why ultimately, I have to be team chair, because I really don't think I want to be on either of their side. So I'll be on the side of the chair that was remained surprisingly upright despite the fact that it was kicked aggressively by Liz. I was like, the thing. The fact that that didn't topple over says that that chair was made well. And I have to give kudos to it. So team chair today.
Ronnie
If the fake. If the fake Frank Sinatra's voice was as stable as that chair, he would be sold out every show.
Ben
The fact that that chair just slid.
Ronnie
Sinatra concert, that was the worst part of that show. I would have pulled your hair if I was in that. So I would have just started pulling random people's hair. Cause that was crazy.
Ben
Can we be team floor, too? Because that chair would not have slid if it weren't for that floor, too. If it had been carpet. Good luck. Joellen's down on the ground. But, like, it just. It slid just so nicely. I was like, this was a team effort between floor and chair. Good job, both of you guys.
Ronnie
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Join@RocketMoney.com Krappins that's RocketMoney.com Krabins RocketMoney.com Krabins okay, so Liz and Joellen have just had a blow up at one of those tables that's right on the curb of the street. And Joellen sticks up for herself and Liz is like, you die. I hope you die. I hope ducks come into your house and eat your eyes out, bitch. And so she gets up and leaves and she's parked right in front and then rolls down her window, and she's like, you jackass. She leaves. So she leaves, and Joel is like,
Ben
okay,
Ronnie
great.
Ben
So she really calls Alicia. He's like, what happened? And she's like, well, I didn't go, so great, Alicia. I couldn't get a word in edgewise. Okay. She told me that I'm delusional for thinking that. That she and I are best friends or even friends. So she just kept going on and on and on, and. And, like, she was going like, yeah, yeah, I know. I know. I know how fake you are. And, like, she's like, oh, you're trying to ruin people. And I'm like, you sound psycho. And. And Joellen's telling us that Liz does what she wants. And then she's very unapologetically herself as. As she is. She goes, but I'm just not as cool, you know, it's still season one, so so far, she has not presented as cruel. So far. But we'll.
Ronnie
We'll see here. She's sneakier about it, which I think is Liz's point. You know, Joellen's doing this whole, like, your husband's cheating. Your husband's cheating. Your husband's cheating. Okay, now I'm gonna have somebody follow you around. Like, nobody's questioning, wait a minute. How does Joe, Ellen have footage? Like, Joellen literally has somebody following somebody around to get, like, secret footage, and that's crazy behavior. I'm sorry. Yeah, nobody is really questioning any of that. I mean, rulers. Look, I think at some point, when you're with a pig and your friends are like, your husband's a pig. I saw him cheating on you. And she's like, well, I don't care. I'm staying with him. That's it. Yeah. The point where you just have to keep reminding them that they made a bad decision every day. I mean, they know, I think, that,
Ben
like, Joellen is dogged. I'm not saying she's a dog. I'm saying she's dogged. I think she is. Like, she is very concerned with making sure that people have, like, know that she's not crazy. So she's, like, determined to make rules. See, like, I'm not the bad guy here. I'm. I'm actually doing a service for you. And now she's determined to try to tell. Tell Liz, like, I'm not the bad guy. I was just consoling a friend. I was consoling Alicia. Like, she is. Like, she gets very wrapped up in in people and trying to have people see her the way she wants to be seen. And I think it's a little different than saying she's. She's not trying to be friends to everyone, I don't think. Because that's what Liz said. Liz said she's being fake. She's trying to be friends everyone. I think it's more like Joellen has a perception of herself, and she. When people are not seeing that perception of her, she, like, loses it. She's like, no, this is who I am. And it's probably all does stem back from the fact that her mom sent her off to, like, the state system when she was, like, a tween, and she probably, like, lives with that now. And like, every. All these. These moments are just like relitigations of childhood trauma brought on by her mom, you know?
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
The best kind, quite frankly.
Ronnie
Joellen runs around saying the whole season, like, I'm such a. I'm such a. Like, I'm the biggest in town, and everybody knows that nobody better mess with me. But then if anybody suggests she is, she's like, how dare you? Well, I think she's I to follow my friend around so that they. I can prove that I'm not a crazy bee.
Ben
I don't think that she's determined to say that she's a nice person. I think she's just more like, when she does something nice, she wants to get the credit for doing something nice. And when someone's like, yeah, you're still a though, she's like, no, but I just did something nice. I'm a bitch. This is my. I just did my nice thing.
Ronnie
I get it. Because I don't do that many nice things. And I, like, I'll give. I'll give like a homeless person a fiver, and I'll want a receipt. Look, I need to show this to people.
Ben
No one did this.
Ronnie
Could you just record something into my phone? Say thank you.
Ben
Thank you.
Ronnie
No, thank you, Rodney. You deserve that. Tony, last night. Sorry you didn't get it. Thank you. It was worth the $5. So she's like. Joelle's like, yeah, you know what? Liz is unapologetic. And she just kept on saying what an awful human being I was, and I'm disloyal and ingenuous, and I don't know why it affects me so much. I just need to suck it up. But, you know, like, I guess I'll just sweep it under the rug. Like, it's not like, woe is me. It's Just like. It's just like when my mother abused me in that. In that Girl Interrupted place. It's just like that. But it's not like. I mean, I don't want to be a victim, but it's just like, what my mother did to me.
Ben
So it's just like, oh, yeah. Joanne's like, oh, and I didn't stick up for you enough. You were wrong. Apparently, that's what I did wrong. I didn't stick up enough. And Alicia says, well, you were just like, you are like, a support of which like, any. Any normal person would do. It was like. It's like fucking a scene. And I thought that, like, you did nothing wrong like this. I thought she was like family to me. And, like, so that's like, what kills me, too. Like, out of respect of my family, she should have never questioned me. I never attacked me and never, like, talked to me like that. And, like, you know, like, I love her and, like, that's why Flip Flop is like, with me. Is that, like. She's, like, fucking mean. That's.
Ronnie
Joel is like, oh, my God. It's, like, so awkward. It's going to be so awkward at the next group event. I feel really bad because I'm gonna keep telling you, you know, you did nothing wrong. Honestly, like, I. I want you to be okay. All right. Bye. Bye.
Ben
He did nothing wrong.
Ronnie
Bye.
Ben
Okay, hold on. I gotta drive over a small. A small bridge over a culvert. Okay, bye. That's scary.
Ronnie
I'm sweating. I'm sweating, I'm sweating. So now we go to Rhode Island Foot care. I cannot be the only person in this country who got a boner.
Ben
I know.
Ronnie
What a student, the guy, the foot care, botox and testosterone clinic all rolled into one.
Ben
I'll tell you, when I saw that. That single story brick building with the. With the decrepit sign. The signs swinging, like, from one. From one corner, the other. The other chain hanging. The other corner.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
Dangled and like the. The slow drips of water from the gutters, you know, I was like, wow, this is where I'm going to go to get everything done. This is the place.
Ronnie
Yeah. So Rula comes in and she's like, hello, ladies. I'm here to see my husband. It's me, Glamorous ruler. Is he in?
Ben
I, of course, got a flashback. This is a deep cut, but I know you'll get it. I got a flashback to Gail of secrets and wives who was married to the plastic surgeon who had come in and she made all the women at the office wear blazers because she didn't want them looking too hot.
Ronnie
They're like, oh, the wife is here again. It's like the wife comes in one time a year and acts like she's the president and makes everybody change their uniforms. And why aren't the plants flatted?
Ben
Yeah, you know, they can't stand it. So ruler comes in. You know, I feel like they probably don't get mad when Rula comes by because Rilla is so low energy. They probably don't even notice that she's there. They just think it's the vacuum coming around. I know.
Ronnie
Someone just walks up to Rula and, like, pulls at her elbow. She's like, what are you doing? Oh, we thought you were the water cooler after your wife's here.
Ben
Oh, we thought someone was moving the fake plant across the room. That's you, Rula.
Ronnie
The plant is walking. Oh, it's just me, Rola.
Ben
You guys, I never thought the day would come. The phone came alive. Watch out. I don't know why I'm making the receptionist talk like Rula. Also, they're just all rules in there.
Ronnie
There are many rulers in there. I believe he's not cheating. I believe he's not cheating as well. Clock, you're up. He's not cheating. So this is this whole episode, Rolla and Brian are trying to pretend they're this, like, happy couple. And it's really funny. She's trying to do this, like, young lover energy. She's like, hey, baby, so good to be back at your place. I haven't been here in so long. I brought you some goodies. Oh, Fun Ruler.
Ben
Fun ruler is here. Everyone. Can you check my toe? He goes, you gimp toe. Let's do it. So in the middle of this, guys, here's a good story from their foot doctor.
Ronnie
I know. Next, gimp.
Ben
I know. So, guys, I know we haven't seen a lot of Ruler Ruler this season, but the good news is she always has a good story when she comes back. Guys, in the middle of the summer, my toe caught the lip of the vanity in the guest house and just lifted my toenail. And I was just about to go jump on a zoom call, and I
Ronnie
was like, ah, I hate sitting in this chair because I never know what's going to happen. Thanks for squeezing me in today, my love.
Ben
Yes, well, of course you sleep with me, you know. Huh. Look at that loving husband, Banta.
Ronnie
So she says, explains why the. The waiting room is full of blonde women.
Ben
You know what, guys? I know you wanted A follow up on my first door because it was so good. He numbed my toenail. Numbed my toe with novocaine. And then he removed the toenail. I didn't even feel it. But I was more distraught at the fact that here we are in the summer. There goes my pedicure. The end.
Ronnie
That's nice to see. When they tie up storylines.
Ben
I mean, can you believe I'm sitting here saying it didn't feel like we're going into the season finale? And look at this.
Ronnie
He's like, so what happened to your gimp toe? Did you hit it again? And she's like, no, I didn't hit it. I just want it to look better. So maybe you could put some of that oil or something on it so it could look better. You're here to get better oil on your toe?
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Really? There are people. There are people that are dying, Kim. Okay. Ask for an implant or something or glue on, like a press on.
Ben
Give it a weave. I have to say, what did you say?
Ronnie
Give it a breast implant.
Ben
It's just going to be in a whole other Real Housewife down on her toe hair, boobs. Hey, so doctor from Scholl's asks, what's going on with the lady that's down on your toe? Does she have new boobs?
Ronnie
We'd like to welcome the newest housewife rulers. Did you get a new pub?
Ben
This whole scene made me so uncomfortable, the whole toenail thing, because it was giving me vivid flashbacks to Kristin Takeman's toenail when she went on on girls trip. And I was so grateful that they did not do like a close up. I was just like, dreading. I'm like, honestly, I'm sitting here, like, uncomfortable. But luckily Rulo says, you know, I was thinking this summ flew by and we haven't had a party yet, so why don't we throw a party? Because we haven't had one. I just like the way, you know, I was thinking, we haven't had a party, so we should have a party because we haven't had a party. I love redundancy.
Ronnie
Good. At the end of the summer because it's the end of the summer. Should we have an end of the summer party at the end of the summer?
Ben
Because we haven't had a party yet.
Ronnie
Had a party yet.
Ben
It's. It's like what I've heard about from writers who are writing shows for Netflix is that like every 15 minutes they have to, like, reiterate what's going on in the episode because I Guess people aren't paying attention. And anymore they're like, they're distracted with their phones. And that's what Rula's doing. She's basically like. She's like a streamer. She's like, because we haven't had a party, so let's have a party. You know, it's like, what about, I don't know, you're Lebanese. How about a hook? A party, Arabian Nights. Because we haven't had a party this summer, so we should have a party this summer. It'll be called Arabian Nights.
Ronnie
Like Arabian Nights. Yeah. This cast isn't problematic enough.
Ben
You know what I could do? I could finally wear my dress. That's a strobe light.
Ronnie
It was really weird. She's like, I can finally wear my little girl in a dance recital. Wings. She.
Ben
What was she. It was so funny because we're going to get to it. But that entire scene, her. Her dress was flash.
Ronnie
I know. Feeding on you. And she's got like this flashing pair of wing, this weak robe. So she's like, yeah, that would be fun. Because it's the end of the summer. Remember how New Year's, we had that New Year's party on New Year's and yeah. Belly dancer there. Remember her?
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
Ronnie
She shows back up, she's pregnant. Like, how many?
Ben
So she goes, we always have wet and wild parties in the summer because it's the summer. So we've had your bye bye to summer party and we have an annual New Year's Eve party. Now it may sound like I just repeated what I just said, but actually I'm just saying it again, in case you didn't hear it the first time. Anyway, we're going to have a party.
Ronnie
He's like, I could rock a vest with no pants and no shirt on. I'll be like Aladdin. Oh God. You better work on that six pack. Haha. Haha.
Ben
I'm almost there. I got a four pack. Oh God. The Arabian Nights reflects my culture. Like, we'll have some belly dancing and the cuisine will have Arabian attire. I might bring a camel, but I don't know if I'll be able to do it. I like to plan. And this is short notice,
Ronnie
so we could invite the ladies from the group, with one minor exception. We can't have Joelle in there. You know, I've gone into everything with great intentions, but every time we blink Joelle and stir in the pot, it's like she makes a point of it. And I don't want the party to be that way I want the party to be Arabian nights at the end of the summer because it's the end of the summer.
Ben
Arabian nights, like Arabian days, right? And so Brian is like, yeah, I don't want that at my house. No. I really have such a good heart that a part of me feels bad because even despite all the bad that's been done towards my family, yet I believe in energy. And I can't have bad energy at my house when I have a party because it's the end of the summer, because we haven't had a party yet and it'll be Arabian nights.
Ronnie
There's a greater probability of a genie popping out of my party than Joel and being allowed to step foot in my backyard. No pun intended.
Ben
Joellen and Gary on the blacklist and then everybody else. I hate to say it, but it had to happen for the party at the end of the summer.
Ronnie
He's like, well, our police detail and security this big Arabian nights party in the backyard. So if shit's gonna go down, they'll get tossed.
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Ben
Okay, ma', am, save it for your Instagram. Stop trying to influence us right now. This is like a blatant, like, deal she had with Taco Bell.
Ronnie
Yeah, and so, like, tacos. Why are you trying to make it look like I dislike tacos? Why are you apologizing for tacos? Stupid on tv, babe.
Ben
They have such an uncomfortable relationship. I just feel so uncomfortable around them. I feel like she's always trying to, like, appease him or mollify him in some way. Or, like, if she anticipates that a thing a moment might get 10, gonna try to, like, calm it down. It, like, makes me deeply, deeply uncomfortable. And it's. What's worse is that they're both so uninteresting to me, and yet I'm Cons. And yet I feel tension. Like, I don't. Like, I don't want to feel tension between uninteresting people. Be interesting people that I can feel the tension between, you know?
Ronnie
Oh, yeah, I don't. I mean, I. I get that they're an interesting people. I don't feel tense around them at all. But, you know, from the bachelor days, from watching that show, so it's just always been like this. He's just really depressed, and then she cries a lot over nothing. And he didn't really want to be with her, but she really wanted him to. It's the same dynamic. It's just gonna go on forever.
Ben
I. The energy she gives me is that like, oh, no, this is all about to fall apart. Like, oh, God. Oh, God. Gotta make sure he's okay because he's about to leave me.
Ronnie
He is gonna leave one day because obviously that's, like, clearly not in tour, you know? But Jared's one of those guys. In his defense, he's not into anybody or anything. He's just like. He's like the sad cloud from the depression commercial.
Ben
Yeah. I think that. I think that Ashley could do so much better, you know? Like, I don't think she's. I don't, like, love her on this show, but she seems very nice, and she seems like she. She. I feel like she just wants more from life and that she is trying. She's, like, dumbing herself down. And so she's talking about his eating habits. And she's like, jared isn't, like a picky eater. He's just a basic eater. And then he's like, this can opener is not working. Which, by the way, already, like, we spent a lot of time last week talking about why Audrey's really feels like a failure to us just based on decor. But now we have the proprietor who does not eat food, and he doesn't know how to use a can opener. I'm sorry, I'm never going to that coffee shop.
Ronnie
There really are so many layers happening in the scene right now. Okay, so let me just go through these lines exactly, because they're so funny. I don't dislike tacos. Well, I mean, what's going to be easy for all of us to have? He's like, tacos are great. Well, I mean, except for Dawson, who will probably have macaroni and cheese. Yeah, I'll have macaroni and cheese, too. Well, then what the fuck are you sitting here arguing that you like tacos the whole time? Are you worried about the taco Coalition coming after you. Don't like a taco. Just have a, have an opinion, Jared. And then he's like, yeah, this hand opener doesn't work. So he takes a steak knife and cuts it into the can. Who does that, first of all? And second of all, you're giving your children broken off shards of metal. It doesn't just.
Ben
You're, you're up your knife. You're. This. Everything. It was so bad. And everyone just didn't. No one's, no one even jumped in to say, oh, here, here's how we can fix this, this situation. How does the can opener not work? How does that, how does that happen?
Ronnie
I don't know. If you have an electric one, you got to have a backup.
Ben
We all know 100.
Ronnie
So she's like, well, I'm a foodie. Which also I don't believe.
Ben
No, she's like a foodie the way, the way Jonathan Siobhan or whatever. His name is not Jonathan Siobhan, whatever. You know, the guy who calls himself food God, that's. I think how she's probably a foodie.
Ronnie
On my way to go to new restaurants. That's not a foodie. Like, trying out the newest Chili's location doesn't make you a foodie. And like, because what I see on their Instagram pages. And Jerus just like, no, we'll just go, like to the same restaurants for the sake of nostalgia. Meanwhile, she's opening a plain can of refried beans for him to eat.
Ben
Meanwhile. Meanwhile, she opened the scene saying, guys, I'm making tacos because I just love the Taco Bell seasoning packets.
Ronnie
Yeah. So the dad's like, you're making me a little nervous with that knife there. He's like, I know, but don't worry, I got a handle on it.
Ben
And then the dad's like, so you, you don't have a can opener? Ashley goes, jared's not a foodie. He's just bland. I mean, my. I do feel for her. I mean, I, I have a hard time feel, you know, imagining that Ashley is truly a foodie the way she says she is. But I do have to imagine that she probably wants to try new places and he just will not do it. And that's got to be very aggravating.
Ronnie
She just wants to go anywhere with her husband.
Ben
That's not Audrey. You know, she's.
Ronnie
That's not Audrey's. Exactly. He's slicing a tomato and the husband's like, well, you're very good at slicing. Jared. Everybody following around Jared like, look, let's let Jared open the can, okay? He's using a serrated knife. Okay, well, Jared, while he can slice the tomato, you're doing good at slicing it. It's like, the most basic thing in the world. And, like, I mean, I do this every day. I guess I should be using a bigger knife. And she goes, well, I hate telling you this, but it's not like sandwich slicing for tomatoes. We need, like, diced tomatoes. It's gonna be Mexican food.
Ben
Okay, this again. This is a restaurant proprietor who is preparing tomatoes for tacos by slicing them in giant rounds. I. It's like, you know those are not the shells, right? I mean, it's.
Ronnie
I mean, like, hey, I'm a restaurant owner. You want diced? I would do dice.
Ben
And he goes, it takes you seconds. It's not a big deal. Okay, well, that's. That's fine. We're not questioning whether it takes. It's a big deal. If it weren't a big deal, then why are you getting huffy right now? Just dice it. Don't be an idiot.
Ronnie
All right, well, what's up with Audrey's? Your lease up or what? When is this over? He's like, well, it's fall, fall, winter, fall, spring, spring, summer, joggers.
Ben
He's like, yeah. I mean, I have such mixed feelings about Audrey's. Lee's ending, but I feel like I don't want to give it up, you know, and. But, like, I. But, you know, it's just, like, all that stuff. And Ashley is saying she has mixed feelings too, and she doesn't. She doesn't want him to give up Audrey's. But, you know, it would also be, like, long term. It would be good. He just would be sad if he did it. And Jared is saying. Jared's pretending like he's considering giving it up, but he has no intention. He's going. I don't know. There's pros and cons. I mean, what I love so much about Audrey's is. I don't know. It's hard to talk about it, obviously. And so she goes, oh, he's gonna cry, guys. And he's like, no, not gonna cry. I just.
Ronnie
She's like, okay, is. In this household, you always have to be ready for someone to cry, because crying every five minutes. Oh, my God, you guys. Did you see him working on that tomato? He's gonna cry, honey. Okay, okay, Back. Back to normal. The mom's like, well, maybe if Audrey's was smaller, like, it's huge. Does it need to be.
Ben
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Ronnie
Mom. It is big, but, you know, look, Audrey's has taught me a lot, and I do think Audrey's has been successful in so many different areas. Stephen, your chai is up a long way. I bring it home with me. I bring it up.
Ben
Ashley goes, you know, it's. You know, even if you close it at a year, it was a success, which is not true. And she says, you know, the lease is up in September, but Jared wants to add. Ask to extend it a little bit because he has, like, all these reservations for after parties that he doesn't want to leave them high and dry for their wedding. Okay, fine. It's an after party. It's not the reception. He doesn't want to end the lease. He obviously does not. He's probably.
Ronnie
And you want the after party at a coffee shop in a strip mall? We're not getting married.
Ben
Yeah, there's that, too. Thank you. I think that he basically wants to hang around long enough to see if the show is going to give Audrey's a boost. And I'd be interested to see if. If it does.
Ronnie
Yeah, it probably does. I mean, if, you know, you get to see Jared every day, then I probably wouldn't go. I would just. To see those cheekbones and that jawline, that's crazy. It's like cartoon level. I want to go see if it's real. I want to be like, could you cut a tomato?
Ben
Hello, do you guys serve tacos? And I have this can. Could you open it for me, please? Thank you.
Ronnie
Exactly. So Ash is like, sell it or just close it. And he's like, close it. Oh, the dad's like, close it. And Ashley's like, well, I'm never gonna give him that ultimatum, Okay? I mean, he says it sucks, but, you know, the benefit. Most beneficial thing would be to close it. But I don't want that. You know, I'm trying to think of the best decision for Ashley and I and as a couple and as a family.
Ben
Oh, I just thought. I just realized what that decision is. Ashley, I'm leaving you. Okay, everyone, enjoy your tacos. I'm going back to Audrey's.
Ronnie
So she's like, well, I mean, if it was making you happy and the money was there and you felt like you were providing, of course I'd let you keep it. And he's like, well, the problem is I could do something different, that I could be making more money, but Audrey's is becoming more successful and it's fulfilling, and we're finding A decent work life balance, like you do all of the life stuff. And I stay at work.
Ben
He's like, yeah, I don't want to sell it. So then the baby just starts screaming. He's like, okay, yeah. Audrey's. I don't think. I think he is happy to have a reason not to be around Ashley. And I think he is. Yeah, he is. Is not interested in anything else. So now we go to the Rhode Island State House, which is this big, gorgeous capitol building. And Dolores and Liz enter. And Liz, like, this is so exciting. And Doris, it really is. You know what? This could not be more beautiful. Wow. What a beautiful state house. Look at all the marble staircases, banisters. Could not be more beautiful.
Ronnie
The noble architecture, the columns and the floor. I mean, it really just beautiful. So they go in and they're talking to the state representative about menopause.
Ben
And Dolores is starstruck. It's the senator and the state representative. And Dolores goes, I'm starstruck right now. It's like, Lori, Lori and Karen. She's like, oh, my God. Starstruck. So they have a nice little meeting, and they're talking about how menopause. Rhode Island's the first state to class to make women going through menopause. Protected class, which is awesome. And they start talking about it and how it's so not fair that, you know, women have to undergo, you know, the physical duress of menopause. And there's just like, you know, their jobs often suffer for it. So. So they talk about that for a while.
Ronnie
Dolores is like, I mean, women who go through menopause. I mean, we deserve a parade, Am I right? I would love a parade for menopausal women. Air conditioned and air conditioned, preferably inside. All right, well, we could maybe sit down every couple of. It's very difficult. It's very difficult.
Ben
Get Gerald. Get Gerald there from Rhode island, from Atlanta. He can just have, like, put all of his air conditioners on, like, a flatbed and just drive through Providence, you know? Yeah.
Ronnie
How this law protects women with menopause in the workplace. And Dolores is like, we need to do more about menopause. More people need to know about it. I mean, it's insane. Like, men literally don't know what menopause is, which I think is actually true.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
And they're. They're saying, yeah. I mean, once we. They're talking about how they had to explain this to all the politicians because it's mostly men. And they're like, well, this is how menopause affects people. And the guy's like, what? You get hot, you sweat, Your body changes, you stop having your period? Nobody told me about this. No idea. Yeah, you know what? Who told you about this? Every woman who's ever been on the earth, you jackasses. You just never listen.
Ben
Yeah, it's shocking. It's just shocking how they're like, whoa, Really? I didn't know. I thought menopause meant that you were taking a pause from sleeping with men.
Ronnie
Whoa. Yikes. So Liz, they. They really do talk about menopause for a very long time. So then Liz is like, well, Dolores and I are developing a product utilizing the cannabis plant components towards metaphors. So thank you very much. Let me just tell you before I go, you better try this menopause product. You better try it. It's look good, boy. She's like, what is that woman pulling my hair?
Ben
Liz, did you just kick the senator's chair? You never homeless, by the way. We actually got a message from someone who does social work. And actually, based on Alicia's lived experience, she says that actually does qualify as. As homelessness. So just putting that, just letting everyone know. A little moment of edification.
Ronnie
Yeah. For all the Liz heads out there. So Alicia.
Ben
It's really for the Alicia heads, I think. Or is it to educate the illness heads for the.
Ronnie
This to educate the Liz heads. I'll tell you what. Homeless. All the people standing at the gates of homelessness, to be like, this is what's homeless and this is what's not homeless.
Ben
Yeah. The. Yeah. Very kind person who works in that field was like, yeah, it all. It all counts.
Ronnie
Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.
Ben
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WATCH WHAT CRAPPENS – EPISODE #3399 RHORI S1E11 PART ONE: ARABIAN SLIGHTS
Date: June 8, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
This episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the penultimate installment of The Real Housewives of Rhode Island Season 1, Episode 11. The hosts mock, debate, and sometimes defend the RHORI cast's unique blend of high drama and low blows, especially in the aftermath of the infamous hair-pulling and chair-kicking scene. They address listener feedback about their coverage, break down shifting alliances, and revel in the show's singular energy—even as the cast gears up for an “Arabian Nights” party (with all the questionable cultural choices that implies). The recap is rich with their signature banter and digressions into Bravo trends, other reality shows, and sharp observations about food, relationships, and fabricated drama.
“If the fake Frank Sinatra’s voice was as stable as that chair, he would be sold out every show.” — Ben (17:00)
The duo delight in dissecting Rula’s odd energy and her attempt at being a “fun” couple with Brian at his foot care clinic (that also seemingly does Botox and testosterone).
Rula's redundancy in pitching a summer party:
They comment on the awkward, often unhappy marriage between Ashley and Jared and his lack of enthusiasm for both food and their relationship.
The “taco night” disaster, Jared’s incompetent can-opening, and the family's collective apathy provide major comic fodder.
Ben (Defending their coverage):
“I can assure you all, I’m watching every single one of these shows.” (08:41)
Ronnie (On RHORI drama):
“You’re not a Real Housewives show until you embarrass America in some foreign country.” (04:32)
Ronnie (On the “Arabian Nights” theme):
“This cast isn’t problematic enough.” (32:27)
Ben (On Ashley & Jared):
“I feel like she’s always trying to appease him or mollify him… I feel tension. Like, I don’t want to feel tension between uninteresting people.” (39:13)
Ronnie (On the can opener debacle):
“Who does that, first of all? And second of all, you’re giving your children broken-off shards of metal.” (41:30)
| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Final Episode Shock & Housewife Season Structure | 03:54–05:43| | Listener Backlash: Hair Pull & Show-Watching Accusation | 06:45–11:17| | Team Chair Neutrality | 15:24–17:33| | Rula & Brian Foot Clinic/Party Planning | 26:11–34:36| | “Arabian Nights” Party Exclusion & Kitsch | 34:36–36:26| | Ashley & Jared’s Taco Night and Relationship Tension | 37:54–47:13| | Rhode Island State House – Menopause Law Discussion | 47:34–51:07|
High-energy, irreverent, and warm. The hosts mock both cast and each other with affectionate exasperation, constantly looping in jokes about age, memory, and the cyclical nature of Bravo drama. They balance deep dives on show-specific details with larger observations about the Real Housewives phenomenon.
This episode is classic Watch What Crappens: a blend of detailed Bravo analysis, giddy mockery, and infectious banter. Whether you missed RHORI or just want more context for its first (and maybe last) finale, this recap arms you with the quotes, comedic moments, and critical insights to hold your own at any Bravo-themed party—Arabian Nights or otherwise.