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Host 3 (Courtney)
What.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
Happens when there's so much that happens?
Host 3 (Courtney)
Well, hello and welcome to Crabby Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's been over there. Hello, Ben.
Host 2 (Ben)
Hi, Ronnie.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
How's it going?
Host 3 (Courtney)
Good. How you doing today? We've had a couple weeks off of Crappy Hour.
Host 2 (Ben)
I know. It's been so crazy. I'm doing well. It's been a long day of recording for us. I just filled in for two judgy girls for Courtney over there. So just, you know, it's just one of those marathon days of podcasting. How's everything going for you down in the city?
Host 1 (Ronnie)
Super fun.
Host 2 (Ben)
Had a great time chatting with her. She's so funny. Had a really nice time. How's everything in the city?
Host 3 (Courtney)
Well, I did her on Friday. Did that. Yeah, Friday. Got her partner there. Courtney took off a long time. She's gone for like Three weeks.
Host 2 (Ben)
Three weeks gallivanting around Europe. Lucky duck. What the hell?
Host 3 (Courtney)
No kidding.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yes. Oh, I just. I'm saying this right now in the comments. Love you guys. Ben, thanks for the fitted sheet video. I watch it and I will still be crumpling up my sheets and stuffing them in the closet. You're very welcome. I hope you enjoyed a glimpse at my shorts that I wore 13 years ago.
Host 3 (Courtney)
My plan really caught on. People were loving that fitted sheet.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
Were they? Yeah.
Host 2 (Ben)
Well, thank you all for watching, contributing to the video's success.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yes, they were loving it. Crappy hour stories open here. What the hell?
Host 2 (Ben)
Well, while you do that, I can out of it.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. Did you see that? Lenny just got. Lenny's in trouble for drugging a woman and sexually assaulting her. Where's my phone?
Host 2 (Ben)
Is that just like. Is that on tm? I'm going to TMZ right now, guys. Going right now.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Came out.
Host 2 (Ben)
Okay. Back to the future star, Crispin Glover. No. My ex's sex slave claims are bogus. That's not it. Ok. One Mike and Jen Rabel. No. Okay. Marcus Jordan. Well, that does. Actually, that is. That is in our world, Marcus Jordan. Here's the update with the headline. Life's a beach in South Beach. Okay, moving on now. Let's see. Comment. Okay. All right. I think I have to. This is. I have to just do a good old. Okay. Lenny Hochstein.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Lenny Hockstein sued by woman claiming he drugged and sexually assaulted her on tm.
Host 2 (Ben)
Oh, there we go.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I've never drugged or raped anyone in my life. This is an encounter I had over a year ago. There are multiple witnesses. If she believes she was raped, she should go to the police, not try to sue for money. There's a video of her leaving my home the next day, smiling and dancing. That's not the behavior of someone who believes she was raped, sir.
Host 2 (Ben)
You should just not be making any comments.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Seriously. Send it to the lawyers, buddy. Lenny Hochstein is being accused of turning a glamorous Miami night into a nightmare, according to a lawsuit filed by Jane Doe. According to court documents obtained by tmz, the woman claims the celebrity plastic surgeon lured her to a Star island mansion under the guise of an exclusive after party, gave her a drug and sexually assaulted her. Jeez.
Host 2 (Ben)
Wow. Well, I can't believe that Lenny Hoxton did is being accused of doing something shitty. It just seems so out of character for him, doesn't it?
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, well, you know, I expected a super sensitive statement and that's what we got.
Host 2 (Ben)
That's what we got from him. Yeah, but how terrible. Absolutely terrible. He's a. He's a. He's a. He's a piece of garbage. And it'll be interesting to see how that turns out. Okay, well, that's. I guess that just broke, so we'll see how that. That pans out. Another thing that happened that I was just talking to Mary about as over the summer, I'm. Over the weekend, Kyle, Craig and Austin took a photo together. And everyone's like, what's going on? Do you think. Do you think this isn't. This means that Craig and. And Kyle are on good terms again. I was of the mindset that the answer is no, but they just brought out to do a photo together. But like that they still have deep resentments towards each other that will not be resolved.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They're guys on Bravo. They forgive.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yes. Okay. Moving, moving.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They're just like, whatever. I said that thing about. Didn't they make up a long time ago?
Host 2 (Ben)
I don't know if they truly made up. I don't know. I thought that Kyle was on Page's side during the breakup, so I thought things were all ruined. Ruined for.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Oh, right, right. I thought this was still about the. The. You know, Craig was taking an ad for somebody that wasn't lover boy. But you're talking about the Page breakup. Okay, well, that makes more sense.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah. Ongoing.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. Craig doesn't let things go as easily.
Host 2 (Ben)
No, I think that Kyle also just thinks that Craig's a. I think Kyle is like, I know how to run a real business. This guy's just the. The COVID The. The COVID boy for some stupid thing with linen and stuff. So I think that will continue to. To rage on. Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
So those two, I don't know, like, guys from Bravo taking a picture with each other is never anything that's really controversial to me.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, right.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Did you see the Kyle making out with a fan thing?
Host 2 (Ben)
I did not see that. Let me go look at it.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Kyle kissed somebody in the front row of his concert. And he's like, ah, finally some evidence.
Host 2 (Ben)
Some evidence of what? Okay, I'm looking at the video right now because.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Because Amanda kept saying, oh, you were. You're making that making out with someone. There's video Kyle, but we've never seen the video. So he's like, oh, finally, evidence. Me making out with somebody. He's like, that girl was in the front row the whole time. She deserved it. Really?
Host 2 (Ben)
She deserved to make it. So I'm seeing the video. He's talking to her. He does look drunk. And she kisses. Was if I were in a relationship.
Host 3 (Courtney)
We just see the back of her head.
Host 2 (Ben)
No, I'm saying he looked drunk. Sorry. I will say you're like, I detect
Host 3 (Courtney)
by her dry hair that she is drunk.
Host 2 (Ben)
You know, I would say, like, if he is in a relationship, you say, I would detect by her dry hair that she's drunk. Yeah, I. I think that, like, if I were in. If, like, that were my husband, I would not have loved that video. I would have been like, what the are you doing? But I will also say not to mitigate it, but I guess I will mitigate it. It was like, a very quick kiss. Like, she clearly was like, I want to kiss you. They kissed, and then he pulled away. But still, if he was with Amanda, that is definitely, I think, not good.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, no, he wasn't with Amanda. This was just recently.
Host 2 (Ben)
Oh, well, that's fine. It was nothing. It was a big nothing.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, I was just. I don't know, brought up Kai was making out with.
Host 2 (Ben)
No, it's not you bringing it up. It's saying. It's meaning that, like, they have this whole. They have this whole article on TMZ summer house cooking up a kiss. He made it like. They made it seem like, oh, my God, this is going to be some blazing hot, crazy, scandalous, you know, makeout session. And it was literally just like, a girl, a fan, talking in his ear, and she clearly said something like, I'd love just to kiss you. And then they kissed for, like. Like two seconds max, and then it was done.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, man. I watched. We. I mean, we talked about this on today's show, and we'll talk about it again in the bonus this week, but I just watched six hours of Love island yesterday. A, I don't think I'm ever getting a boner again, and B, I don't. I'm surprised that I'm just not making out with everybody today. Like, it's just so normal to just pass by someone and be like, there's a guy on there that kisses like this. Okay, this is the girl. And then this is how he kisses.
Host 2 (Ben)
Is that Gabrielle?
Host 3 (Courtney)
Oh, the Brazilian guy?
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, he really. That tongue really, like, tongue first.
Host 3 (Courtney)
It's not even like they all tongue kiss, but he literally starts like that.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
He licks up their whole face.
Host 2 (Ben)
It's like, he's really hot. But then that tongue does come out, and you're like, bro, put that thing away. That's too much. Like, work your way up to that. Like, but don't, like, you know, we don't need you to, like, mop up the face before you go in for the kiss.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Not mop it up. I mean, that's wet. Wetting it.
Host 2 (Ben)
I guess it's a wet.
Host 3 (Courtney)
It's like flipper wet. Jetting it.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah. It's too much. He's like, really. I find him to be really, really hot, but I also find him to be, like. I don't know. I. I think he's. I think he's trouble. I think he's total trouble.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Oh, yeah, the boy from Miami. Yeah, there are a couple Miami boys on there that are gonna be some trouble.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
No worse than the new guy. The new bombshell.
Host 2 (Ben)
Oh, I haven't gotten to him yet. I can't wait.
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Host 3 (Courtney)
Oh, and he's the hottest one, but he's also.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, gonna be. Oh, I can't wait. That's what's happening right after. This is. I'm catching up. I just have two episodes to catch up. And then there'll be tonight's episode, of course. So three.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. You know, it's okay, but it's just so many germs. I. I'm not opposed to making out, obviously. It's just making out like that. Like, literally with everybody. You pass. I mean, they start it and they just all make out with each other. Like, okay. Ariana doesn't even try and come up with a game anymore. She's like, okay, welcome to the show. Okay, you turn make out with that person, then just go down the line and make out with everybody. Yeah, I thought that was, like, doing reps. She's, like, pulling reps. She's just working out the whole time with her eight pack or whatever. She's like, oh, yeah. Aren't you guys still making out? Okay, I'm on my second round of reps here.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah. Seriously, when they all had to, like, open the door in that first episode, when they all opened the door and they all just, like, made out with each other, I was like, okay, this is just lazy. I feel like they shouldn't actually, like, encourage that. Only because I think that there should be, like, higher stakes for kissing someone the first time. And if they all kiss each other during the challenge. Yes. I know it's to, like, understand chemistry, but, like, I don't know, I think it, like, it makes the challenges more exciting if you're like, oh, my goodness, like, I'm finally going to use. Use this as an excuse to make out with someone. Not that it's that exciting for the audience, but I just think, like, not like, truly shoot our wad right in the. Like the first.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I mean, check the stock market. Did the. Did milk tank? Because the milk is free. Okay. Is anybody buying the cows anymore? The stock just went down.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, yeah. No, the cows. People don't want. The people don't want to buy those cows. Those cows are just roaming around the discount aisle at this point. You know, it's hard. Yeah, it's hard.
Host 3 (Courtney)
So let's see what make outs. I mean, I was on the train and I had my hand on the bar, you know, and then I wiped my eye. And I've literally been checking for pink eye all day.
Host 2 (Ben)
I'm like, oh, no.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Meanwhile, these people are just sticking their tongue right down each other's throat. You don't know these people. And, you know, you're all sluts. Every single one of you. Men and women. You know, you're all sluts on the subway.
Host 2 (Ben)
You know, they have those new poles that you can hang on to where they sort of diverge in the center and it becomes two poles and becomes one again.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Kind of so weird. What? Hard. Why do they do that?
Host 2 (Ben)
I think it just creates more surface area to hold on to. And so they're painted yellow where becomes two poles.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
But a lot of them are just
Host 2 (Ben)
back down to being metal. Like, a lot of the yellows come off. And I just think of, like, also just, like, not only the germs, but I'll just like the yellow paint that's just on people's hands that just peeled off over the years. It's gross.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. My friend used to say the metal on the train makes germ free because it's, like, naturally kills the germs or whatever. But you with the yellow. Yeah. I don't understand that. Nobody holds the thing. They all put their hand in the middle of it. Like the curve.
Host 2 (Ben)
They're like, oh, do they?
Host 3 (Courtney)
I haven't known if that's what I was doing,
Host 2 (Ben)
guys. I'm like a subway influencer. The new way to hold the. To hold the bars is put your hand right in the curve. It's like a cradle.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Disgusting.
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Host 3 (Courtney)
or you may notice that I am on Drew Sedora's set today. I'm Filming in front of a closet door. Okay, so that is her. She's the next story. So Drew was gonna get kicked out of her. Her house. She was up against a May 31 deadline, but now she can stay at home.
Host 2 (Ben)
Wow. See, maybe she was able to book a gig directly, of course, without auditioning and was able to get that extra, extra time in the house. So, according to new legal docs obtained by tmz, a judge in Georgia changed course Friday and said the Real Housewives of Atlanta star no longer has to leave the Georgia mansion she shares with estranged husband Ralph Pittman. So I guess she just had a. An angel in a judge for her. But they were originally. She was supposed to. Supposed to go home, leave, not. Not stay there.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I had a couple of Kim Zolciak stories on here, but then I kept searching for stories, and there are so many Kim Zolciak divorce stories, and each one is grosser than the other, so we can skip those. But, man, those two just need to get it over with. I mean, they're really bad. It's like, he's doing this and she's doing that, and she. He's doing this, and she. He's going on. He's taking the vacation on kids with the porn star, and she's. You know, people. I mean, right in front of the kid. I mean, these stories are, like, really. They never gross. Kim Zolciak just continues to be.
Host 2 (Ben)
It's terrible. Those kids are all gonna be like, they're gonna be disasters. I always thought the kids were gonna be disasters. Okay, I know we're not supposed to, like, make fun of kids or whatever. Kids are off limits. But I've always. I always thought, like, just seeing them all that whole brood, I was like, these kids are gonna be disasters. These two twins, they're gonna be the ones that are gonna, like, They're. They're gonna get into some bad at some point. But now it's like, that was always my suspicion. But now, like, they.
Host 3 (Courtney)
The.
Host 2 (Ben)
This divorce is so bad for these kids. Like, oh, my God, how? Like, why can't they just both just shut the hell up, sign the papers, and move on with their lives?
Host 3 (Courtney)
And as far as talking about the kids, I mean, we don't say anything about the kids, but you don't have to talk about the apples to see that the tree is diseased.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
You know what I mean? Anything that comes off that tree is going to have a problem.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, that's going to be a bad tree. That's gonna be that. That's not a. That's. It's. It will bear many fruits, but none of the fruits will be edible. It's. That's just, it's. God, it's. That's crazy.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Rancid fruits. Speaking of rancid trees, Brandi Glanville claimed a couple weeks ago that she now has STD related ringworm of the throat. Brandi, stop talking. Yeah, stop talking. And what is your obsession with worms? I mean, first she said she had a worm in her face.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Then nobody could find the worm in her face. And Dr. Terry kind of hinted like, I didn't find a worm. I mean, if Dr. Terry can't find the worm. Yeah, I don't think there was a worm in your face. Now you got a worm in your throat. Do you think she's just got a worm, like, where she, like paranoia.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
But I mean, we definitely saw something
Host 2 (Ben)
was happening with her face. Right. Like something was happening.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Fillers and whatever.
Host 2 (Ben)
You know, you think it all just, you think it was just like a bad reaction to fillers. And then she started going everywhere and saying it was a parent.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I think, yeah, I think probably it was a lot of really bad fillers that ended up moving and, and melting and doing all sorts of, you know, wow. Well, you know, there was maybe drug use. I don't know, alleged. Allegedly.
Host 2 (Ben)
I don't know.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Just reading the cheekbones.
Host 2 (Ben)
Aaron says it's that a worm with a mustache.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I. She was watching the season of Vanderpump Rules, the scandal season.
Host 2 (Ben)
You know, Karamo posted pictures of himself because he had buccal removal surgery in 2021. And it like something happened with the salivary gland or whatever and his cheek swollen up and went crazy. And so he's been, he's been, you know, for some reason, he's on some sort of like publicity tour, maybe has a book coming out or whatever. Or maybe it's just to counter the fact that the Queer Eye guys are on a publicity tour for the Emmys. So he is now all of a sudden everywhere being annoying as usual. And he is talking about how he's been suffering from this buccal. Buccal fat removal thing. And he's had to have so many corrective surger. Life has been hard and difficult. So the point is there could be a lot of things that could mess up your face, including a botched surgery. Botched. A botched bule. Bule. Botch. Bule.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. I just think when you get, you know that. And listen, I'm not against filler or whatever, but I think there gets to be a point where I think it's obvious to everybody else. I think maybe Brandy's either going kind of cuckoo or she's just on too many things because it's just too many worms in your face. You know, at this point, it's like, okay, when you're crying worm two times, that's a problem. I mean, I think that there's probably something.
Host 2 (Ben)
You only get two worms. You only get two worms.
Host 3 (Courtney)
One solid worm complaint. You know what I mean?
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I feel.
Host 2 (Ben)
Well, as long as I'm talking about, like, disgusting things or unsanitary things or things going into throats, something that really got people really rattled while we were doing our cabaret was this video of west and Amanda. They were in Italy, and Amanda spat in West's mouth.
Host 3 (Courtney)
That is disgusting. I've only seen that in porn, and I really don't get it. Years ago, when I guess that started, I mean, I had never seen that before. Someone's spitting in mouths. It was like, probably 10 years ago or something. And I was at Gay Pride and I was walking home. You know, when I lived in West Hollywood, I was walking home from Pride and there was a hot guy on the street, and we were wasted, you know, so we just gave each other a look and started making out. And then he, like, pulled my head back to, like, look in my face. You know how people do that? And then he spat in my face and I smacked him as hard as I could. I felt like I was just. It was just like my knee jerk reaction to being spat at in the face. Like, yeah, who does that? And then he started crying, and I was like, you don't get to cry after you just spat in my face.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
He's like, it's normal.
Host 3 (Courtney)
And then I told my friends, and then he said, it's normal. And they were like, yeah, like, really? You guys are just spitting in each other's faces now? Have I been off the market that long that we're just spitting in each other's faces? What the fudge? And now Amanda and Wes are appropriating our culture.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah. Fully spitting. But I also have seen, like, I've, like, I know people, like, spit during sex and everything, but this was, like, at a cafe in Italy. Like, this was not the. This was not some kinky moment to be doing, like, to be literally swapping spit. This was like, you're in Italy and you're being, like, awful Americans right now. Why are you spitting into each other's mouths? You know? And also, Wes can You go to a new country. He's just always going to Italy. Come on, spread your wings. There are other countries to go to. He's so limited.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They do still love a mullet in Italy, though.
Host 2 (Ben)
I work there a lot. They do there.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Was there a lot of mullet action? Maybe it just feels, like, comfortable there.
Host 2 (Ben)
I'm, like, really mad at the limited scope of his tourism. You know, he's just always going to Italy and she is, too. They both are only going to weddings in Italy all the time. Italy is amazing. It's beautiful. It's a gorgeous country. I would go back as much as possible, but, like, try to, like, mix it up a little bit.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Maybe it's just like basic. Basic wedding destination right now.
Host 2 (Ben)
Well, now Carrie says it was smoke. Carrie. Carrie in the comments says it was smoke lulls. So maybe it wasn't spit. So it looked like spit. And maybe she was blowing smoke. Either way, you know what the hang. When the hanger opens up, it's only for a little plane that has food on a fork. It is not for the other hanger to belch into. So whether. Whether the. Whether hangar number two is sending out spit, smoke, or anything else when hangar number one should only be receiving one type of entity and none of it is as described above.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. I'm not sure people are saying smoke in the comments. I've been reading spit, too. I'm. I'm hoping it's smoke because. Yikes. But maybe they think it's like the local custom because probably everywhere they're going, people are just spitting at them. I'm like, oh, my God. That's just how they do it in Italian. In Italy.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Hey, honey. They're probably like, oh, west, we've had it with you. You pigs.
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Yeah. They're just like, also, they've been there. They've been there quite a while, I guess. So the whole thing is that they're there to avoid the reunion, which of course makes so much sense that of course they would do that. They would go to Italy to avoid anything.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They left right before the reunion, and people were like, are they going to stay a month? Because that's a lot of avoiding.
Host 2 (Ben)
It's a lot.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They are. They're there a long time.
Host 2 (Ben)
I know. I think at some point I am a little bit jealous, quite frankly. I want to spend a month in Italy. Should we do crappings in Italy? No.1 myself. Depressing realities of life.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Go to Italy. What the Do I care? I'll zoom with you in Italy.
Host 2 (Ben)
Why don't we both go to Italy now?
Host 3 (Courtney)
It's not a good time, though. It's very hot.
Host 2 (Ben)
I know. I know. The one time I did go to Italy was in August of. What was it was that. Remember.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Remember?
Host 2 (Ben)
I missed. I was so distraught that I missed being able to recap Boat Ride from Hell on Roni. But it was August and it was boiling hot. Everybody, Every place was like, 110 degrees in Italy. It was crazy. See?
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah.
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Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah. That's the fun of Italy. I'll wait. I'll wait on that. Well, I am going to go back to Norway. Here I am complaining about that. They keep going back to the same country, but I am going back to Norway this fall, which I'm excited about.
Host 3 (Courtney)
But Cat sky says, I didn't even know Italy gets that hot. I didn't either. I was like, oh, my God. And it wasn't that hot. It wasn't as hot as it could have been when I went for sure. Because I went in May, right? That was in May.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, something like that.
Host 3 (Courtney)
And it was beautiful. Like, I'm not even dissing Italy. It was stunning. And I did ride around on a vest, but, like, I loved it, you know? But, girl, when it got hot there, I didn't even know I had sweat glands in my butt. My butt was like, please help me do something, Anything.
Host 2 (Ben)
It was hotter than you can imagine. When I went. I went to Pompeii and was blazing, blazing, blazing hot. I think it was over 100 degrees. But of course, I couldn't tell because the centigrade. And I was. I was too hot to even do the conversion. I was just. They were like, you know, they're always like, oh, my God, it's 22 degrees centigrade. I was like, I have no idea what that means. All I know is that I am melting in Pompeii right now. And honestly, like, my favorite part was going into the brothel that they take you into on the tour because it was, like, inside and was cold in there. I was like, thank God for the brothel.
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Host 3 (Courtney)
And Pompeii. I saw Pompeii, too. Well, first of all, love their street signs, their penises. So I thought that. Oh, yeah, but Their brothel was like one room with like a lot of like bunk bed type things made out of stone. I was like, can I have some privacy? Jesus.
Host 2 (Ben)
But I like, with the brothel that they had, they had pictures of all the sexual acts that were painted on the walls. So you'd go in and be like, I would like that please. Or I'd like that please. I was like, wow. It's like when you go into a restaurant and all the, all the food items are just like, just on the
Host 3 (Courtney)
wall or even like that's how people are. They're like, what would you like? What do you like? Are you a waiter? Could you maybe just try some things? I don't want to like, make a list.
Host 2 (Ben)
Super Vixen says, In 1994, I went to Italy. In August, I fainted at the statue of David because of the heat. Well, I mean, if there's anywhere to faint, it's in front of that man. Although we have learned that that statue that was outside was actually a replica and it was the real David is inside. So you, you fainted at a replica. Unless you fainted inside, which case that's, that's even more dramatic and I love that for you.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Okay, so speaking of butt sweat, did you hear that Summer house star Kyle Cook is hooking up with Southern charm Sally Carson?
Host 2 (Ben)
What? You okay?
Host 1 (Ronnie)
Wow.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I feel like is always linked to people. She is linked to a lot of people.
Host 2 (Ben)
She is trying to link. She has, she has put Velcro on her hands and she's just hoping someone walks by and she's just gonna try to like attach right on. That's the vibe I'm getting with her.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. And then she puts posts like she does a lot of vague booking where she'll post.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Hey, to all the girls who are sick of taking it from the man. To girls who aren't going to say yes to stupid men anymore. And then she's like doing like a little tick tock dance. People like, what are you talking about?
Host 2 (Ben)
I have to say, I am like over Sally. I am just over her. I don't know what it is. I really liked her first season.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I've never really been a fan of Sally though, have you?
Host 2 (Ben)
I think that her first season I, I liked her, but then last season she just, I found her to be exhausting and now I'm just over it. I just, I, I, the, the, I'm just, I, I just don't, you know, I just, I'm not sure I find her to be entertaining enough. I think the chicken thing is really what turned me. When she bought those chickens for Craig, I just was so upset at that that I. I just knew that there was just no way to come back.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I liked it. I thought it was like a new twist on the having a baby to keep a man thing. It's like you're just getting chickens, you know, chicken babies.
Host 2 (Ben)
It's like less commitment.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, yeah. And you go through the whole gamut of what that entails. Like this will make everything okay. And then it's like happy for two seconds. And I'm so happy for you. And we're shopping for cribs. And then, you know, fast forward a year later, he's already cheating on you and out of there. But it was so truncated that, you know, boom. Those chickens are probably already eaten by now.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, they definitely are. Yeah. I think. I don't know, like, look, they're both adults. Hook up if you want to, but I just think that I don't see that one having legs. Personally. I think it's probably just like a fun fling when they're at BravoCon or in the same town or he's DJing. But yeah, I don't. I don't think so. Do you. By the way, do you know anyone who's going to fan fest? Because that's happening in Charleston?
Host 3 (Courtney)
No.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
Me neither.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I haven't heard much about it. Isn't it like a Miami? I thought it was Miami. It's in Charleston.
Host 2 (Ben)
It's Charleston this year. The only thing I know about it is that people are keep asking, do you know someone, anyone who's going to fan fests? And I'm like, I don't know.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I don't know anybody.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, it's sort of. It's interesting. It's an interesting choice. I mean, it's a smart choice because they've got a lot of Charleston stuff down there, but yeah, they do the bro.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They do Bravo Con one year and then Fan Fest another year and then they go back to doing BravoCon or whatever. Yeah, baby. Bravo Con.
Host 2 (Ben)
It's like a baby. A little something to hold us over. Commercials. Here comes one right now.
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Host 2 (Ben)
let's see. So Kyle is not a relationship guy. He should remain single. I actually think Kyle should remain single for a little bit. I think he Will. I think that he. I think he's. He's going to want to go on this DJ ride, and he's going to want to make out with a lot of people. And I think he's going to sew the wild oats that he pretended he didn't need to sew anymore. And I think he's going to go and have a fun journey as DJ Kyle Cook.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I'm wondering if kind of Kyle, like, gets boners when he's drunk. Because this whole thing of, like, oh, you're DJing till 4 in the morning, and then, you know, there are a lot of good points made, like, well, if he was banging people, people, there would be so many videos. I mean, look at west and Amanda. There's a picture of them blowing smoke or spit into each other's face, or it's like, oh, look, Wes just went poop in Italy. You know, there's pictures everywhere. So I feel like there would be more videos and stuff if he was actually cheating all the time. Yeah. Then that led me to the question, why isn't he cheating all the time? And I'm wondering if he's just like a non boner when drunk kind of a guy, then he's drunk all the time.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, that could definitely be it.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Actually.
Host 2 (Ben)
It could definitely be it.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I don't know. A lot of time wondering about Kyle's boner. That's what I'm saying.
Host 2 (Ben)
You know what happens. Speaking of Kyle and boner things that might kill a boner. I love this link that you pulled up. Hot take Amanda Batula's pony bun is not the enemy. I am so excited to hear what this is about. That. That ponytail has. It's. You know what's so funny? Because I didn't even think anything of it with her ponytail. But then seeing how, like, her bun. Yeah. The way it, like, soups out then comes back in and seeing how people are so mad about it makes me love this stupid ponytail. Not fashionably, but I love the idea of it that we have this thing to talk about. I don't know why. I love, like, I love the weird idiosyncratic elements that come out of a scandal. And the ponytail is, like, one of my favorites to emerge from this.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. You know, I think it's just, like, the. No effort of it all.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I think. I think something that also bothers people is that Amanda went from being this, like, fashionista, you know, because when Paige was around, she's like, okay, I'm gonna be as fashionable as possible. And she was, like, trying to be, like, model fashion all the time. And then the second she started dating kind of a hippie grubby loser like Wes, she immediately wanted to become a hippie, grubby loser. And I think that's one of the things that's annoying about it. You know, it's like, oh, you go just like, grabbing onto somebody else's personality and sucking off that instead of doing anything or, you know, instead of being your own person. And also this week, we see her. I just watched a screener. We see her in the city packing up to leave her apartment with Kyle. And that's her packing hair, too. You know, it's like that. It's like you're in your sweats and you're packing, and it's just like, no effort, you know? Like, you put everybody through all this shit in the season and you just show up like, yeah, I'm gonna throw my hair and I'm fucking.
Host 2 (Ben)
What do you think is the right hair to have if you're coming into a reunion to show contrition? If you have Amanda's hair, what do you think is the right look?
Host 3 (Courtney)
I don't even listen. I don't even think she should have been showing contrition. I mean, should she have? Yes, but I'm not requiring that she shows contrition. I say, grow up with Lindsay. Show up with Lindsay hair. Like, I'm a badass. I don't care hair. If you're going to go that route, you know, just. I don't know, do something. Like, we all got a. We all kind of got out of bed to watch you. You could at least look like you got out of bed to be here.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, I think that, like, if you're coming in, I guess it's more like, what is apology to our hair?
Host 1 (Ronnie)
And I think that, like, if you're
Host 3 (Courtney)
really trying, like, to shave it, like you're trying to Game of Thrones where they just shave your head.
Host 2 (Ben)
I think that, like, it should have just been Big Tales. I think that, like, you know, I. Well, it's so funny. Dom was watching that documentary, which he was watching with his headphones in, because I was like, I need to do some work. He's like, okay, I'm gonna watch this documentary with my headphones in. So that way it doesn't interrupt you while you're writing or whatever or reading. And then, of course, I proceeded not to do my work, but I just watched the documentary along with him, but didn't have any sound because I do that on Airplanes all the time. So he watched the documentary about this car crash that was. I think it's called the crash or something that's on that.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Tell me the end of this, because this is like the biggest thing right now, and I want to.
Host 2 (Ben)
I'm not telling you the end, but what's so funny is it's about this high schooler, and she crashes this car with her boyfriend in it and friends. And when before the car accident. And she's like an influencer. She's all done up, and she's like. Like, I'm doing, like, doing all the TikTok things. What, like, going out, whatever. But then when she's on trial, they really. You can see they really. They meet. They took away all, like, no makeup whatsoever, which I'm not even sure she had access to that. But they definitely made her look as much like a sweet little innocent girl as possible. And I think that's what Amanda needed to do. She needed to play on social biases and just be like, I'm just a sweet girl.
Host 1 (Ronnie)
Don't be mad at me.
Host 2 (Ben)
And it said she just went with this weird ponytail. This, like, teacup handle kind of was
Host 3 (Courtney)
doing that because she. She was wearing that, like, weird east, like, little kids Easter dress and, you know, just a hair in, like, a little ponytail. I mean, I don't know. I think some of these answers are funny, though. In the comments, it says, let me see, like, contrite. Hair is bad. Baby bangs. That's penance. Someone said she should be wearing Lindsay hair with the turtleneck.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, I think, actually bangs. Yeah, Low bun. I was thinking bangs in a weird way. Like. Like a. Like a. I don't know. Maybe the ponytail was supposed to be like, look, I'm gonna be open. I'm pulling everything back. Nothing is hot. I'm not hiding anything. But I think, like, maybe. Yeah, I think, like, I think I say just go for it. Just do, like, ponytails and wear just like a. Like a jumper or something. She just comes in, like, a school girl uniform.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I just pulled the link. I just pulled the link because I think it's so funny how everything is a story with Amanda and Wes. Like, people really can't get enough, and, like, every little thing becomes this huge thing. And it was just cracking me up that it became a huge issue. This. This bun. You know, be like you and your bun. People really got upset to the point where they had to write a whole article about it. And that's like a big publication.
Host 2 (Ben)
Who wrote about that new beauty.com so the.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I thought it was like Vanity Fair. The bun is not the issue.
Host 2 (Ben)
Well, they asked, where did the inspiration for the pony bun come from? And they said, the. The. The stylist said, I can't.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Stylist. That would. That's another thing. You hired a stylist for that? That's crazy. It's like when you pay a TaskRabbit to put your IKEA furniture together and they leave and it just falls on the ground. It's so annoying. Like, you paid somebody for that. Come on.
Host 2 (Ben)
So here is what the. The vision was. So the. The stylist Olivia Such and Such says, I can't take credit for creating the look. We've seen versions of it on Kim Kardashian and Hailey Bieber and on the runways of major fashion houses. We took inspiration from those moments and adapt it to match Amanda's signature effortless chic style while balancing the femininity of the makeup and the outfit.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, we've seen a bun before.
Host 2 (Ben)
Her signature effortless chic style. I'm like, did you see the picture of her blowing the smoke into West's mouth? And please tell me about effortless chic again.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Did you see Casey from Garbage World Bit sesh? Her video where she was like, I have had it, like, selling off Amanda. And she's like, you do we need to drug test on Bravo? And I will not stand by for any of these people coming in here on drugs and refusing to take accountability, making the point. Like, Amanda was so drugged to the teeth during that reunion, so she didn't have to feel things, that she didn't take any accountability and that we shouldn't allow drugs on Bravo anymore. We should allow people to. We should force people to show up and feel the emotions, because we are the audience.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah.
Host 3 (Courtney)
You know, and. Well, first of all, I loved Casey's video because I was like, oh, my God, the passion. But you can't take drugs away from Bravo. What the. Are we gonna watch?
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, exactly.
Host 3 (Courtney)
This network is fueled on drugs. Fueled by drugs, everyone.
Host 2 (Ben)
There was a lot of talk about how Amanda seemed like she was drugged up. I actually did.
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Host 2 (Ben)
Well, of course I was like. I didn't really get that. But of course, I always say that. I'm always like, what? Really? I'm naive, but I didn't. I didn't really get that. I thought she was just, like, trying to. Like, I felt like she was just trying to keep her mouth shut, but, like, she wasn't very good at. When she opened it, like, she really has been doing so badly. I'm really excited to see the screener later. Later tonight or tomorrow, whenever. But she's. Yeah, she's doing a very terrible job with this reunion. She's doing such a bad job. She really could have done this reunion in a way where Wes could have taken all the blame. Like, there's. There was a way where she could have emerged. Like, she could have saved her reputation a little bit, but she's actually made it worse during this reunion.
Host 3 (Courtney)
So one day before Lindsay made some comment, this isn't about the bun anymore, the drugs, but this is a different thing. So Andy went on his radio show, and someone asked. A fan asked about Amanda walking off the stage. He says, one of our big questions was, what was the length of time that Amanda left the stage and came back? And in that time, did she get new pills? In that time, she seemed really pissed, and it seemed like a lot of time. And Cohen shared that was a good question before saying, at least 15 minutes. I'll say 20. 20 or more. And Lindsay responded on threads. That was an hour. It was definitely an hour, if not more. So.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, because didn't they break for lunch?
Host 3 (Courtney)
That's. No, they didn't.
Host 2 (Ben)
Oh, no.
Host 3 (Courtney)
They sat out there and they taught member. Because they were like, okay, some questions. And Ben was like, oh, I'd love to talk about my missus. No one is more charming than Sabrina Bell. My father. She hugged my father so much. My father hugged me for the first time since I was three.
Host 2 (Ben)
Oh, my God, I touched my. Yeah, I think it's had to have been about an hour. They, like, Andy, had the frustration of someone who was waiting longer than 20 minutes. Because I. I always imagine that it's about 20 minutes when someone leaves. So, like, he really was. He was getting annoyed. He's like, well, I was gonna ask these questions, but I guess we're just
Host 1 (Ronnie)
gonna hop around and do it this way instead.
Host 2 (Ben)
Thanks a lot. You know, so I think for sure they were waiting a very long time.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah. What else do you like on here?
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Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, well, guys, you know what? If you want your dog to feel better, give him Hill's prescription diet it. There, you just heard it. So he says, when she's a millionaire and she wants to help me or give me money to come hang out, why would I decline that? One week worth of money, paid my rent for the month and put food on the table for my kids. She didn't have to do anything. She offered. It wasn't a matter of me affording a week off. I was able to still make half my money at work by using pto, and she covered my bills for the month. Why would I turn that down? That makes no sense.
Host 2 (Ben)
Oh, you can turn it down because you're. Because you're her partner. That's why you could turn it down.
Host 3 (Courtney)
And because you're her partner and she shouldn't have to pay you for coming to take care of her. And you didn't even get her pills. You probably did them. You probably crushed them up and snorted them in the front seat of that car.
Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, whatever. Whatever, loser.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Oh, it's so gross. And of course, that's the guy Britney's dating.
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Host 2 (Ben)
Yeah, he's a real nice guy, though. I've known him for so long. I think my final thing here is this headline. Katie Janela reveals plans to expose Emily
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Host 2 (Ben)
So, Kate, here. This is from reality blurb, and this is the opening sentence. Katie Janela reacted to the claim that there is quote unquote proof that Emily Simpson is trash, as Kitty hinted at her as stories that didn't air. Were we all sitting around being like, emily Simpson's just a great, great person. Wait a second, there's a document that says she's trash. I mean, I feel like she's been on for, like, nine years.
Host 3 (Courtney)
She's trash. But I'm gonna need some solid proof. We've had nine years of it.
Host 2 (Ben)
Do we have nine years of we need. We need a trash. A smoking trash gun. I'm like, it's okay. We've been watching. Don't you worry, Katie Janela.
Host 3 (Courtney)
I just thought that was a said. Listen, we're going to be very honest on this podcast. I don't have any other gear but blunt and honest. Emily's trash, in my opinion. And Katie said, well, I've been saying it, and I can back up what I say, that she's trash, but we'll get there. Well, I have some stories that didn't air, she said. And we'll discuss those as the season airs. And one is real juicy.
Host 2 (Ben)
She was literally transformed into trash. She is human compost. So anyway, we'll see what happens there. But actually things have been pretty chill on Bravo, but we have to now hop on over to our Amazon live. So if you want to keep on talking about stuff, we'll just be right over there instead of So I hope everyone comes and join us.
Host 3 (Courtney)
Yeah, we'll talk to you next time, guys. Love y'. All. Bye. Bye.
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Date: June 9, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam (with Courtney as guest co-host)
“A daily podcast that revels in all things Bravo (and beyond!).”
This Crappy Hour episode finds Ben, Ronnie, and special guest Courtney reveling in the latest scandals, rumor mill chaos, and pop-culture oddities from the Bravo universe—focusing especially on the drama-rich world of Summer House. The trio delivers their signature comedic commentary and affectionate roasting of Bravolebrities, mingling Bravo headline hot takes with pop culture observations, travel rants, and vivid listener chatter thanks to a live Q&A component.
Craig, Kyle, and Austin Meeting
Kyle Cooke’s 'Makeout' Video
Love Island, Kissing, & Germ Anxiety
Brandi Glanville’s “Ringworm of the Throat”
Karamo’s Facial Surgery & Publicity Tour
Summer House Hookups and Social Media Games
Bravo Fan Fest & Convention Chat
Amanda Batula’s Infamous “Pony Bun”
Drug Accusations & Reunion Behavior
On Lenny Hochstein:
“I can’t believe Lenny Hochstein is being accused of doing something shitty. It just seems so out of character for him, doesn’t it?”
— Ben ([05:09])
Kyle’s Makeout Video:
“They made it seem like, oh my God, this is going to be some blazing hot, crazy, scandalous... and it was literally just a girl, a fan... they kissed for, like, two seconds max.”
— Ben ([08:55])
On Love Island Kisses:
“I don’t think I’m ever getting a boner again, and B, I’m surprised I’m just not making out with everybody today.”
— Courtney ([09:23])
On Amanda’s “Effortless Chic”:
“Her signature effortless chic style. I’m like, did you see the picture of her blowing smoke into West’s mouth?... Tell me about effortless chic again.”
— Ben ([42:34])
On Bravo & Substance Use:
“You can’t take drugs away from Bravo. What the f--- are we gonna watch? This network is fueled by drugs, everyone.”
— Courtney ([43:32])
On Kim Zolciak’s Divorce:
“You don’t have to talk about the apples to see that the tree is diseased. Anything that comes off that tree is going to have a problem.”
— Courtney ([18:53])
On Bizarre Sex Trends:
“Who does that?... I felt like I was just... knee-jerk reaction to being spat at in the face... you don’t get to cry after you just spat in my face.”
— Courtney ([23:08])
True to the Watch What Crappens ethos, this episode mixes affectionate mockery, Bravo superfan snark, and off-the-cuff pop culture analysis. The banter is fast, tangential but coherent, gleefully irreverent, and always returns to the question of what drama means in the Bravo world. Listeners can expect quick pivots from hard news to hair bun memes, making it a must-listen for anyone who thrives on Bravo mess.
For ongoing gossip or to discuss more Bravo chaos, Ben and Ronnie announce they’re jumping to their Amazon Live stream. Crappens fans get the perfect mix of breaking news, dishy analysis, and everyday reality TV absurdity—Bravo style.
For further details and bonus content, consider their Patreon at www.patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.