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Watch what happens. Watch what crap is. Who cares what happens when there's so much happens? Overlimited. Who cares what happens? But there's so much that happens.
Brenda
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Croppens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay, it's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So she's like, well, yeah, I had some of this information. And I was like, does it worry you that he sent her flowers on Valentine's Day? And she's like, well, it was like nothing really going on between us on Valentine's Day.
Michelle
You just said it was like February. I mean, come on. And so then Mia's like, am I. This is crazy. Am I crazy? And I like, Bailey's like, yeah.
Brenda
Sierra's like, hello. You just said, am I going crazy.
Michelle
Yeah. Bill's like, I feel like the super bowl thing is, like, incriminating. Like, Dave Portnoy has no reason to get involved. So I'm like, the super bowl feels accurate. And then I like, Mia was like, that is great. When was the Super Bowl? February 3rd. Bailey was, like, ready with that date. But also, like, saying Dave Portney Portnoy has no reason to get involved. I mean, that's never. I feel like that's never stopped him from getting involved in, like, you know, online stuff.
Brenda
Yeah, I don't know much about Dave Portnoy except that he is the barstool sports Guy. And then I saw the clip of this where he was like, everybody, I'm a beach. He's like a. You know.
Michelle
Yeah. He's always wasted. I thought he's always chiming in on stuff. Yeah.
Brenda
Just like, sweating and all tan. He's like, I'm on a beach. I don't even give a about this stuff. But, you know, like, I heard from chicken Fry. These two are bone in the whole time at the Super Bowl. W. What do I care? Like, well, then why are you on tik tok? It's funny. So. But I don't know anything about him. But the listeners are like, why are you talking about Dave Portnoy's a pig? Like, well, he. He's a pig with the tik tok. Like, what do you want me to say? Came up on my elgo.
Michelle
But why would Dave Portnoy ever get himself involved in a summer house drama? Because he's Dave Portnoy.
Brenda
So then.
Michelle
And. But either way, I. I actually think Bailey's point stands. And I just loved how quickly she had that date because Bailey has a timeline. She clearly has a timeline of when things happen. And she's like, that. Let me reference my timeline. And that was February 3rd. Okay, everyone.
Brenda
Yeah. So Andy asks if anybody's met Miha, and Jesse's like, yeah, Ben and I have. And he asked when and was like, but I'd also like to add, like, you're calling her my girlfriend, and like, that's just not true.
Michelle
Yeah. So Jesse is. So Jess is saying. Yeah. That they went. Talked to Montana, and she always thought, like, you know, he always thought mayhem was pretty. Like, understood that they were not exclusive. But, like, maybe now, like, did she
Brenda
think she was your girlfriend? Well, I mean, like, she thought we were an exclusive relationship. Yeah. But it doesn't mean she was my girlfriend. This guy just. I'm just praying for a street sweeper to come in here and just run him over.
Michelle
Yeah. So then Andy is like, jesse, do you have anything that you want to say to Wes? He's like, I mean, I'm not the person in this situation who needs sympathy,
Brenda
but I'll cry anyway.
Michelle
It's just like, you know, I feel for Sierra and Kyle, and it hurts deeply, and I just feel lied to, and I feel really upset that the sanctity of this friend group feels broken. And just like, today is really proven. I just never expected this out of you, and I'm really sad about you. I'm just me gonna cry.
Brenda
He's like, I apologize, Jesse. Oh, yeah, this is heartbreaking. Sierra's like, yeah, it took us all. Took all of us to go to West Village bars. And he says, wes, you said at the opera ski party you weren't looking to be anyone's boyfriend. And we see him telling Ben, like, yeah, it's, like, really hard to ignore the sexual attention. But I'm not trying to portray that I'm a boyfriend. You were to. You kind of were to her. Okay, long hug for another five minutes, then make out on the couch, then long hug again while you stare into each other's eyes. What the.
Michelle
Wes, I would have. I would have liked a question that said. You just said that you don't want to portray that you could be a boyfriend. So, like, what changed? Why are you guys now, like, why are you now suddenly down to give it a shot? Like, or was that just. Or are you not really trying to give it a shot? Or was it a lie that you said you're not down to portray that you want to be a boyfriend, but. But instead, Andy asks, so, have you. Have the two of you been monogamous? And then it's, like, silent. And Wes is like, yeah, no, he
Brenda
goes, have you been monot. Oh, yeah, you're right. He says yes at first. And he goes, west, have you been monogamous to Amanda in the last two months? And he's like, well, like, actually, no. Like, not since we've expressed feelings. And God's like, what? Sierra's like, oh, my God. The Internet would have a frenzy with you at point. Oh, so is he saying he wouldn't. What is he saying here?
Michelle
I'm. I'm. I was confused by this because he's like. He's like, not since we express feelings.
Brenda
So maybe he's saying he hasn't hooked up with somebody. Okay, yeah, that's what I thought when I watched it. But reading that, Sierra's like, yeah, wait a minute.
Michelle
And Sierra's like, of course you haven't hooked up with anyone else, because the Internet would, like, have a frenzy with. Over it.
Brenda
So he's like, well, since the statement. Yeah, we've been monogamous. Oh, since the statement. Wow. What a guy. Wasn't that just, like, three weeks ago? And then Kyle's about to cry, and then Vera from Mel's Diner says, why does everybody keep telling Mel to kiss her? Reds, there's a lot of pressure on you to make things work with Amanda. People are joking. You need to get married or get Amanda pregnant ASAP to make this work.
Michelle
Was what pregnant? And he's like, how does. How does that. I mean, do you feel the pressure to make this work? He's like, yeah, I don't think that should be why it works. But like, obviously in a moment like this, like, that's like, like what you feel.
Brenda
Lol. See Amanda. I mean, how is Amanda even still sitting there? I mean, if you got this guy, you've gone through all of this, and you just find out he's been someone else the whole time. He only started being monogamous since the statement, which is craz crazy because, you know, they were a long time before that. And now he's saying, oh, yeah, well, I mean, I am still with her because I feel pressure from the Internet. I mean, that's Amanda, get some self respect, for Christ's sake.
Michelle
Yeah. Geez. And he's like, it just seems dangerous to be with someone with very clear commitment issues. And Wes, like, yeah, I would agree because so Kyle's like, I just. I still can't believe we're like in this position. Like, we were really close. Like, I considered you one of the best things that ever happened to the show because, like, I consider you one of my best friends. And I think. I think the most eye opening part of all this has just been like, unfortunately, kind of like learning about what's kind of behind the closed doors in your life. Because I do still have a lot of love for Amanda and I do care for her, but I'm.
Brenda
I'm very concerned, very concerned for Amanda. Okay, well, you could have been more concerned for Amanda while you were with Amanda, Kyle. So some of Kyle's like, over, like, oh, poor Amanda. What do we do? Stop infantilizing Amanda, Please, Please, enough. And Kyle's like, at the end of the day, you love her boy for lover boy. And when we broke up, yeah, it wasn't a good marriage, you know, and you knew that because you had a front row seat and you knew she was the most vulnerable spot any girl could possibly be. Her husband just became a dj. How could you do this?
Michelle
And to quote you on Andy's show, like, yeah, I'm gonna show her the streets. And so.
Brenda
Oh, that's what.
Michelle
That's when it crossed, I guess.
Brenda
Yeah.
Michelle
It was like, again, he got. Again, he has a lot of coff. He is like, he's definitely doing like, spit takes and he's like, and, you know, design to make that move to pursue these feelings. You've essentially completely isolated her. Like, she's kind of alone on an island. And I honestly have to Just ask, like, does that island need to dj? Because, like, I could throw a mean DJ party there. But, like, what's your plan for Amanda? Like, is all this really gonna be worth it?
Brenda
No, I'm not buying this. Oh, it's all West's fault, and he isolated Amanda. Amanda did this to herself, and Amanda isolated herself. Okay, Wes is a piece of. But I'm. I'm not in for Kyle making this whole, like, Amanda's just some sweet little bird that you took at her most vulnerable moment, and now you've isolated her. No, I'm not giving. I'm not giving Amanda that.
Michelle
I think that Amanda is an adult and made her own decisions, and she should be. That she should be held responsible for them. I think that west maybe had the. Should have had the foresight to realize, though, that she is coming out of a relationship, and she's probably kind of excited for male attention after feeling so, like, unseen for so long. And I think he should have recognized that, like, maybe what he was feeling or seeing, like, this was not the time to do this. I think he did have a responsibility, and it doesn't. It doesn't mean that Amanda's off the hook, but I do think he had a responsibility to say, this is not right, because she's probably. We all know. We all know when people get divorced, they. They all go kind of crazy afterwards. It's like coming out of the closet. We all know this. And I think, you know, he is young. He may not have as much experience with this, but he does have experience. He knows when people rebound. And he. I do think he be. Was maybe of, like, a slightly not saner mind, but, like, he didn't have all that, like, upheaval in his life in the same way. And I think he should have recognized that.
Brenda
Well, I mean, look, Wes should realize. Recognize the feelings and what he's putting every woman he goes out with and treats like shit, which is every woman we've heard of. In the past three years, no one's ever been like, west was a good guy. It's all been. West has treated me like shit. West hurt their feelings. West led them on West Light. So he should have respect for all the women. So I'm not letting west off, but I'm also not gonna. Like, I'm not. Like, I'm not getting with this whole, Amanda's some victim. I'm so sick of the. Amanda's a victim of everything around.
Michelle
I think.
Brenda
I think that's like a. Nah, like, I'll give it to her. With Ky, you know, with that marriage. And I've always stood up for Amanda in that marriage, even though I really like Kyle, but I've always stood up for Amanda in that marriage, but I'm not giving her this.
Michelle
I actually think Kyle was trying to give Amanda a little bit of a lifeline there to be like, hey, here's your angle. Like, this is a way out of this. Yeah, but she wasn't gonna take that.
Brenda
She doesn't want to weigh out.
Michelle
She does.
Brenda
You know, it's like throwing someone a rope down a well, and they're like, I've been looking for studio space in this city for years.
Michelle
Maybe baby Jessica was happy.
Brenda
Yeah. So maybe Jessica was sick of them trying to make her eat broccoli. She was like, I'm in the well on purpose.
Michelle
Maybe the lady alone. Maybe the lady inside the lambs wanted some lotion.
Brenda
Oh, God. You know, for some reason, that came up on my Instagram. How did that get on my algorithm? It's an ad for a shirt with the dog looking down the well. I'm buying that shirt. It's a great shirt. It's just from the bottom of the well, and you just see that little poodle looking down, like, it's instantly recognizing.
Michelle
That's funny. There's a song. Someone made a song about that. It goes. It puts the lotion in the basket. The lotion in the bath. Someone made a song. The chorus is about putting lotion in the basket.
Brenda
So Kyle's like, well, I'd like to think you care about her and that you. I mean, I'd like to think that you feel you owe her something, but, like, where you go from here? He's like, yeah, well, like. Well, like, obviously, like, weighing in how much this could, like, up, like, frenzies and, like, you know, like, why? I wish more than anything we could have, like, spoken to each other before it got carried away. He's like, well, that was when you were in my business, you know? Like, that's when you were inserting. Inserting yourself into my marriage. And I was texting you in early February, not knowing you're in Miami on a dinner date with Amanda. I was texting you about our sex life or lack thereof. I mean, do you understand how big of a fool I feel? Like, totally.
Michelle
It's like, this is the thing, Kyle. This was the thing.
Brenda
Yeah.
Michelle
10 years. And this is the thing that made Kyle feel like a fool.
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So. But West. But his point remains. And Wes, like, again, there was like nothing romantic at the time, but Jesse's like, then why wasn't I invited to dinner? Oh, God. Is like, well, you and I had dinner plans for the next night and I should have invited you and I, I apologize. I'm like, oh gosh, please, just like, it just looks bad, okay? I just want to have dinner with my friends.
Brenda
And Wes is like, no, like, it all looks shitty. You know, like, like this concern about me being like the worst person, like, it makes total sense like, then, you know, like, it's everyone's concern. I get it. And Kyle's like, yeah, I actually care about her family. I don't even know what her family's gonna think when they see this because, yeah, like, you know, we just kind of exposed you for having a full blown girlfriend. And I'm like, this is horrible. Your dad's gonna make you sign a contract. Her dad's gonna make you sign something.
Michelle
So by the way, at this point, Andy has fully checked out of the arena and now letting the cast do it. And by the way, the cast is more than capable, especially Lindsay. So is there anything you can make us feel better about it? Like, would you like to set an intention? Because there's a lot to unpack here. Like, you not being the worst person to risk it all for zero is like, yeah, you're still not being like, oh, she's worth it. Like, it is funny because after all this, Wes is West is not sitting there being like, yeah, this was. This was rough. But you know what? I feel something that I'm with Amanda that I've never felt before. And that's the only reason why I would do this. Because, like, I've had so many of these moments where I see someone, I get scared. And it's the first time I've not been scared of relationship. I want to dive in. He says, nothing romantic, nothing like that. And then he will probably say, we
Brenda
are still together because the Internet would be mad at me if I dumped her now.
Michelle
Come on.
Brenda
Yeah, and sorry, I'm a bad person.
Michelle
I guarantee he'll go on this podcast and say, well, the reason why I didn't say she's worth it is because I felt like it'd be disrespectful to Sierra and that, like, if I said that, then, like, people get, like, really mad at me. Because I guarantee he keeps on saying, people will get mad. People get mad at me. The ongoing theme is, like, his concern about how others will view him.
Brenda
Yep. So he's like, you know, like, there's like, so many conversations with us about, like, how this needs to be something serious and has legs. And Kyle's like, well, how many. How much of that is a PR damage move? Exactly. That's exactly what he's saying. It's like, no, but before all of this happened. No, because before all this happened, you were saying, how are people going to react to this? There was never a moment in this relationship where you weren't like, oh, shit, what are people going to say about
Michelle
this, you know, well, it seems like
Brenda
you guys just got caught because you were going to time it to be next season when you're like, oh, now we're best friends who become lovers. Isn't that sweet? But you got caught and your whole plan was ruined.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
Dumb dumbs.
Michelle
I think west is very concerned with how the greater public thinks of him, but he's not concerned at all about his friend, how his friends, the people he actually hurts. Think of him. He's like, I 100% hear you. So this got out of my control, and I. I wish I didn't. And again, I will regret not speaking to you before this happened. Yeah. And he's like, well, I mean, it was in your control the whole time. Like, you had to know that this is going to happen.
Brenda
Like, hello. And crowd's like, yeah. I mean, if you're hooking up and whatever you're doing and posting about it. And that's the other thing that, you know, we keep saying over and over, but they don't really. It's not stressed enough, I think, how they keep trying to make this timeline and stick to this timeline when they were the ones posting on Instagram and breadcrumbing, as they're calling it on this show and teasing everybody that this was going on the whole time. Like the little videos of her rubbing his fingers in line. Like, all the romantic songs she was posting. I mean, it's like legit crazy. And Sierra's like, yeah, I feel like you guys bragging about it for months on end is really the point where it's like the most disrespectful to everyone. Thank you. And is like, do you think you weren't bragging about it when you were posting on Instagram? Like, hello. And Sierra says, yeah, you literally posted a picture like, this is how much I care. Holds her fingers up with an inch between her pointer and thumb. Like, I don't care. None of this is affecting me.
Michelle
Amanda's like, it had nothing to do with anything. Why are you posting that?
Brenda
Right? Right when the Internet's coming after you and you're posting like, this is how much I care. That was just, like, random.
Michelle
And now and then Amanda says, it's just so easy to read into everything. Amanda, you literally. We watch for 10 years. You read into everything. And I feel like it's a crazy thing.
Brenda
Well, how long do we have in here?
Michelle
It's a hard out at 2:30. Okay. Getting the next episode going. Are you guys gonna reset?
Brenda
We're still recording the first episode. Right now.
Michelle
So do you think you'll have.
Brenda
We'll be out. Okay.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
Yeah, we'll figure it out. Thanks. Sorry I was running a little late today.
Michelle
Miles.
Brenda
Producer Miles is like, get the out of here. Okay. And take your peanut butter crackers with. We've locked up the peanut butter crackers.
Michelle
Okay.
Brenda
Good luck.
Michelle
It's not fair because I still want to talk about how west is a liar for 30 more minutes. I want to make the same point over and over again for 30 more minutes.
Brenda
Well, but that is also the thing with this episode that was making me crazy. It's like, okay, like, we get it. He's. They're never gonna say anything that's gonna make him say anything other than what he's saying, which is. Woomps.
Michelle
Yeah, exactly. So it really. It drives me crazy that Amanda's acting like they are crazy for reading into things when that's all she has been doing on the show for years and years.
Brenda
Yeah.
Michelle
And Sierra's like, look, girls post so conscientiously, like, subconsciously. Consciously. Not even conscientiously, but just consciously. They're, like, very aware, even down to the song. And we see, like, all the song choices are about, like, crushing and things like that and, like, a lot of Olivia Jean. And so Amanda's like, yeah, Amanda's like, well, I post trending songs. I'm not spending five minutes. I literally open up Instagram and says, suggested for you. And I pick up on song.
Brenda
Amanda, you posted this song. I'm your ex boyfriend.
Michelle
Yeah. No, it's just an accident. This is also supposed to do. This is a dig at Kyle too, because his career is now curating music. And she's like, I don't even curate. But so cow's like. I mean, she did 20 hours old thing of Warren West. Like, she said, this is how much I care. She's like, no. I'm like, my whatever. Like, it was just a very dumb mistake on my part. And literally, they're not related. This is the most fired up she's been is about her social media, not about how, like, she's hurt someone.
Brenda
Well, yeah, well, she's fired up about it because they're clearly calling her out on, you know, with everybody and dropping all these little hints. She's like, how dare you? I never put forethought into anything. I married Kyle.
Michelle
So Sierra, we. We have, like, now Andy's saying, you know, one thing. God, I think the thing that's really killing people here, aside from your ponytail, is that I don't know like, all these scenes of Sierra just giving you, trying to give you the strength to lead this relationship. Let's see an extended montage to make you feel even worse than ever before.
Brenda
So we get the montage of Sierra being like, you are better than this. You need to stand on your own two feet. I believe in you. You are strong. You are a woman. We are sisters. You will get through this. And we come back, and Amanda's like, yeah, I really did a shitty thing.
Michelle
Yeah. And Andy's like. And so she was like, yeah, you really did. Whatever. And Andy's like, hold on, hold on. What do you have to say about it? I mean, I don't know that I'm like. Like, what are you feeling? Like, what are you thinking? Can you say something on this reunion? And then Amanda goes, in regards to the situation? No, in regards to the new branding of Cheerios. Like, what the hell?
Brenda
The price of eggs is high, huh?
Michelle
What do you think about Love Island?
Brenda
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Michelle
Come on, get out of here.
Brenda
Amanda, what are your thoughts on Iran? Yeah, straight up crazy.
Michelle
Do you think this straight of hormones is overblown in regards to the situation?
Brenda
Amanda, are straws okay to use skin, yes or no? Did we all just stop worrying about the turtles at the same time?
Michelle
Venetian lines or curtains?
Brenda
Yeah. Why did they call him no see him socks when you can still see them?
Michelle
So Amanda's like, well, it's been a very confusing and crazy time, and there's, like, been a lot of feelings that I've sorted through, and I developed feelings for someone that I was like. Like I wasn't expecting to. And, like, there were times I lost sleep and I didn't eat and, like, thinking about what this was going to do, our friendship, even, like, the fact that these feelings existed. I fucked up. And I'm deeply sorry for betraying your trust. And it kills me to know that I've caused you this pain. Okay, great. Thanks. That's very canned.
Brenda
So Sierra's like, no, it doesn't. Amanda, like, you fucking texted me 24 hours before your fucking statement's gonna come out. Finally admitting the truth and we see a text from Amanda. Me again. I'd really like if we could talk at least so I can understand how you're feeling. I know you process things differently and needs to space, but I'm really sad where things are right now. I'm not sure what the right thing to do is or how to go about this. I want to hear you out and take accountability for everything that I did that upset you even when it wasn't my intention.
Michelle
Sarah's like, meanwhile, I'm like, calling Kyle, like, what the is this? When I've done nothing but be there for you and Lindsay has to come pick me up off the bathroom floor so I can, like, go and do my job. Okay. Like, because I couldn't even fathom that I, that would be sitting here, right here today, pissed that you're my, that you're fucking my ex and he propositions you and you said, yeah, let's do it. Like, at the slightest. If you were my friend ever, you would have been like, that would be a big fuck you to Sierra. Why would I ever do that to her? And Amanda's like, but it wasn't.
Brenda
So give anything. You'd be like, he wants revenge against her because he resents her so fucking much. But that never even crossed your mind. Because he wants to embarrass me and he wants to get his last little word. And this is his last little word. And I hope it works because he's with you despite me. So have fun.
Michelle
But the big news here.
Brenda
Pretty solid.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
Pretty solid read.
Michelle
Yeah. I mean, that's. If he was doing all this just to spite Sierra, like, that's wild. Like, I, I, I have to say, like, when Sierra says that, like, it reads a little conspiratorial to me. But, like, again, nothing's off limits with this show anymore.
Brenda
I don't think it reads conspiratorial. I think that their timing was fucked up. I really do believe that he thought he would have this season where he made it good with Sierra. They established they're friends, and then the next season he could be like, well, I've been falling for Amanda because that keeps him on the show. It keeps a juicy storyline with him taking Kyle's whatever. And I really think he thought he could smooth it over with Sierra and she just understand, like, we weren't right for each other. But me and Amanda are right, but their timing just got completely blown up. And I think ultimately his plan to get with Amanda is to spite Sierra. Like, look, now I'm having this happy relationship and now I'm like a hero because I've saved, quote, unquote, this woman in this horrible relationship and the audience is gonna love me. And, you know, despite Sierra, who he blames for ruining his last seasons with the audience. So I don't think she's wrong at all.
Michelle
Although I do think that, like, if Wes wanted to ensure another season by, like, having some sort of like, relationship with Amanda. I think he would have. I think he would have saved that actually for cat on camera, like, been in the house and started flirting with her. And I think he would have actually just done. Right there on camera. I think. I'm not saying that he's not being underhanded. Whatever.
Brenda
He wasn't doing anything with Amanda. He was just going out and laying foundation and groundwork. He wasn't. In his mind. He wasn't dating Amanda. They only started. They only started dating, supposedly, according to them, after this statement. And the only reason they made the statement, according to them is because a video of them hooking up came out. So him hooking up with somebody isn't dating. He does that with everybody. So I think he was thinking, I'm laying the foundation because we saw Ben say on the show last week or the week before, like. Or someone accusing Ben, you were lying about having this girlfriend or not having a girlfriend, rather, because you said that you needed to have a girlfriend on camera. Like, the show doesn't want you without a girlfriend on camera.
Michelle
Right.
Brenda
You know, so they've established that that's which we've always suspected, but they've now admitted that that's a thing on the show. So I think he's like, well, I haven't had somebody on camera except this thing with Sierra. And so now that that's going to end up and I'll be back in the audience. Good graces. I need to have another thing. And it's. Who better than the other lead of the show, one of the OGs.
Michelle
We have an update, which is from Ben, who says, my neck's gonna be pinched by the end of today, so.
Brenda
God, it'll match your face.
Michelle
I just hope my father hugs. Hugs. It makes it nice again.
Brenda
He's always, like, pinched face. Like, he always looks like something smells in there.
Michelle
Welcome back to the Summer House Season 10 reunion. Sierra, you said that watching the season back has been a major mind bug. Which scenes have been the most difficult for you to watch? Would you like to have your mind all over again right in front of your entire cast?
Brenda
Yeah. So basically the last scene where Amanda. Nice working with you. Yikes. Yeah, but where she's lifting up Amanda and being like, you're so special and you deserve the world. And Sierra's crying while she's saying this, and Amanda's just staring, you know, with her Homer Simpson eyes down, no reaction, blinking, no reaction.
Michelle
Like, it's. That's what's so, like, killer. Like, you would think that Amanda would Be like, it's like, Like I. It's like you would think she would cry or feel something and. And be like, this is the worst thing, you know, to see her give me that blind support and how I got so wrapped up in this and how I hurt the person who was trying to help me out the most. Like, there's just no, no, like, emotional note of that. So Andy's like, well, that final weekend did seem instrumental and pushing Amanda into doing something about a relationship. Do you regret that? And Sierra's like, no, I don't regret pushing her to leave Kyle. She's like, it was a friend in need, and I wanted her to be happy and I wanted to have a sense of relief and I wanted her to exhale, you know, and she. She says she doesn't. She doesn't want to see, you know, women in bad relationships like that. That's what she was raised with, and she saw what her mom went through and she didn't want Amanda to go through all that.
Brenda
All right, what's your response to that, Amanda? She's like, no, I mean, like, I've been so appreciative. Appreciative of everything that Sierra's done for me. And, like, I know I up an incredible friendship. And no matter what happens, I'll walk away from this set today really thinking and reflecting.
Michelle
Oh, my God. That was one of the worst things I heard all reunion. I'm gonna walk away thinking and reflecting. Like, not. I'm gonna walk away, you know, carrying this shame with me, knowing that like. Like that. That trying to find a path forward. Like, it's just. I'm gonna go. It's. That's just so. So non committal and so empty thinking about it.
Brenda
You're giving me something to think about. Okay, so she's like, you know, like, I can say it's only blue in the face, but, like, I'm truly sorry and I don't deserve a friend like you as you're just rolling her eyes, like, yeah. So anything else she could say right now? Lindsay's like, what did you think was gonna happen, though? Like, that's where I'm getting really amused, like. And Carl's like, yeah, go back to my question about the plan. What was your plan? Yeah, how did you not know? Like, knowing Sierra, how did you not know that what was going to do to the friendship? She did know. She didn't care.
Michelle
She did not care. So. And you weren't just, like, willing to say it? And she was like, yeah, that's the Part that's. The part that's just. You know that. You know that. The part that's disposable. And Amanda's like, I'm living in Cloud 9. I wasn't even. Like, I wasn't thinking it fully through. And they probably keep going to Jesse, and he's crying more and more in the corner.
Brenda
Jesse. This affects Jesse more than anybody. You guys.
Michelle
Jesse, what's going through your mind? If it's a song, please don't sing it. He's like, well, I just was hoping you wouldn't call on me. Just, like, I didn't expect to get this emotional about it, but just based off of what we've heard, I feel like I'm losing a brother, and I just hope that you can somehow improve. And Bridge was, like, wrong and whatever, but it doesn't look good. Trapezoid face.
Brenda
And Andy asked West what he thinks, and Wes is just, like, biting his lip, looking at the. The ground. He's like, whoa. Like, obviously, like, I hate that. It's, like, obviously, like, devastating. And it, like, sucks that I'm, like, responsible. And it's like, okay, no offense. Are you on beta blockers? Like, everyone's so emotional around you. I mean, Jesse's crying, okay. And you're just like, whatever. What's going on? And Wes is like. And then he goes, I'm talking to you. And Wes, like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Michelle
That was the.
Brenda
Yeah, I know. I'm just, like, trying to, like, stay composed as, like, much as possible. And Sierra's like, or you're just a sociopath.
Michelle
He's not even emotionally affected, because again, anytime there's, like, a break, anytime there's, like, some whatever, he is back on his phone or he's, like, laughing and smiling. He is not emotionally affected by this at all whatsoever. And it's like, the moment that Andy calls him out on this, you see, Wes is like, oh, I forgot to calculate this into my facade. Yeah, I forgot to include, like, like, like, moments to, like, fake cry. So Jesse is like, are you on venom lockers? He's like, I did. I did take a beta. I took a beta blocker. I think he does. I don't think. Part of me feels like he didn't take it, and he's like, oh, but I should say I took once. That way, people will understand why I'm not being emotional.
Brenda
Yeah, well, it's better than saying Zanny. I think it's like on Bravo when, you know, they're like, oh, he's an Adderall. Addict. And, you know, they snort and coke back there. You know, there's like, code words for, like, the legal things they're doing. Or like Catherine on Southern Charm who's like, I was addicted to marijuana. Okay. Yeah. So he's saying. He's just trying to stay composed, and he's like, I'm sorry. I'm not sobbing, you know, but this does matter to me, you know? You know, like, if I was sitting where Carl is, I would wrap my arms around him. You know?
Michelle
Carl. Well, no, not. Not around. He's saying if he was sitting where Carlos, he'd be next to Jesse.
Brenda
Oh, sorry. What's Carl getting hugged for?
Michelle
Well, is there gonna be a bonus hug for me? Because I'm sort of down for it.
Brenda
All right, Amanda, was it worth it? And Bailey's like, please say no. Just please say no, Amanda. God. Let me help you with your answers. Just say no, please.
Michelle
Well, that's an impossible question to answer in this moment, because I wish I could have both. Even though that's not the case, Amanda, you had to know this question was coming. And again, I think she should have said yes. I think she should have just laid. She should have just stood in her truth. Don't say no.
Brenda
I like that. Every single answer Amanda gives, we're like, no. This is what she needed to say, Amanda. Like, we can't. That's. I think what's the most frustrating thing is at. Amanda, you've been on TV 10 years, and you don't know how to do this.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
Like, literally. And you watch Housewives, don't you? Like, doesn't she watch Bravo? Like, you don't know how to give an apology on Bravo, girl. Come on. It's like, you're just bad at your job. You're not only bad at cheating, you're. Or whatever you did, you're just bad at this.
Michelle
Yeah. You know, I mean, it's a trick question for her, because if she says no, then she's sort of screwing up the situation that she's in at the moment, which is then, like, now you've caused all this damage for nothing, so she can't really say no. But, like. And I think that she. Again, I think she. She should say yes because it's her truth. It's what she feels and what she likes. But she. They're just not. They're just too cowardly to do anything
Brenda
or just say, time will Tell. A truck.
Michelle
But, yeah, time will Tell is a great one.
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So Andy's like, let me ask you very clearly, did you get any boobs? He's like, did. Are you guys in love? And Wes is like, we're not really using the word love right now. So Matt's like, yeah, it's too early. I mean, it's just been like 2 months, 3 months, 5, 5 months, 8 months? How many months did we say it was?
Michelle
He told me that he loves her. So I'm gonna help you out. And Wes is like, yeah, I'm very much, like, committed to this relationship. And he's like, so do you think you could be falling in love? And Amanda's like, that's the conversation that we've had. That's. Can you please stop saying conversation? I'm so sick of her being like, that's the conversation we've had. We've had a lot of conversations. We're going to have a conversation. We need to have a conversation. Oh, my God.
Brenda
Yeah. Because she's trying to stress that we're not just like, this is a relationship. And we talk a lot. We've talked about all of this. And she's like, that's the reason I waited. What'd you wait for? And Mia laughs openly. It's like, well, you can laugh at me all you want. She's like, this is crazy. I'm sorry. And so Lindsay's like, well, you had these conversations, but Wes is sitting here saying no. Like, flat out, no. And she's like, but we haven't said. You know, we've just had conversations about maybe seeing it someday.
Michelle
Bailey's like, he's gonna embarrass you. Lindsay's like, well, they're having conversations about saying it, but do you feel like it could be you're. You're checking to see if you love. And then it's like, no, we're not having conversations about saying it. We're having conversations about the serious of our feeling. The serious of our feelings. And. And where we see this going because we knew that there was, like, so much on the line.
Brenda
So you guys are exclusive? And he says, yeah. And Lindsay's like, well, they have to be now. I mean, jeans. So Carl's like, oh, and you want. Like, you still want to be with him, like, after all this? Amanda, like, you see this behavior? He's hooking up with four different girls and your former best friend. That's crazy. This is crazy, man.
Michelle
I hear you. Okay, thanks.
Brenda
Do you think I'm gonna think about that? I'm gonna really do some thinking about that.
Michelle
Wes, do you think you're able to give Amanda what she needs in a partner?
Brenda
Lol. Yeah. He's like, well, I know my history doesn't say, but, like, I think if Amanda can get back. Amanda and I can get back to our early days. Your early days. So how long has this been going on exactly?
Michelle
That was a big. That was a big mess up. Because, like, the early days was February, and this was shot in like, what, early April or something like that. You're in your early days, sir.
Brenda
Yeah, they're so. They're just lying. It's making me crazy. And Andy's like, what, six weeks ago? That's the honeymoon base. I mean, come on. Oh, my God. You're like every other guy. And Wes, like, well, but, like, just, like, this relationship. I just mean, like, when this relationship was blossoming.
Michelle
He means basically when it was before it was public and before they had to worry about.
Brenda
It's in the summer. What he means.
Michelle
Well, no, I think that's right. And I. I. But I think he's trying to say. He's trying to pivot to saying, like, no, I mean, before everyone found out. But, like, you cannot say in the early days when you're old. Is six weeks in.
Brenda
Yeah, because he's lying. He tells on himself. He's a bad liar. So they're like, well, yeah, of course. You know, it's the most exciting when you're sneaking around. Like, every. Everybody who has an affair says that, you know, duh. Like, you're tricking people and you're. You're being sneaky. And Carl's like, oh, it's exciting.
Michelle
It's the best part. So there's. I bet, like, Wes loved the thrill, the chase. And Wes is like. He's like, no, I care a lot about my friendships and people in this room, despite. I know what it looks like. That's a lie. It's a lie. Like, well, despite what everyone's gonna say here, I just hope that, like. Like, one day, I guess probably all these friendships won't mend, but, like, I do hope, like, some of them can. And, like, that's, like, the main priority. I mean, have, like, a bunch of conversations and reflecting about, like, we're gonna have conversations.
Brenda
So they take a little break. And Lindsay's like, oh, my. Zero clarity. Andy, are you even here? Like, do I need to do this for you? And Andy checks in on Wes, and he's like, I feel, like, horrible. So then Sierra's just staring at Wes. He's like, yeah, like, I. Honestly. I'll say I'm still trying to figure out, like, how sorry you are, because this is crazy. And Kyle talks about what a mind it is, and, you know, they're trying to have resolution, but Wes is not helping. And Wes is just sitting there stuttering, biting his lip like, yeah. I mean, not saying you have an answer because it's a loaded question, but, like, oh, geez, I'm just gonna. I'll be right back. Amanda, let's hug you. Okay? Then he gives her a big long hug. And Wes is just on Amanda.
Michelle
I mean, while Wes is just on his phone texting, Amanda's like hugging Kyle. And Wes is not like. And she's crying, by the way. They're both crying. And Wes is not like, damn, my girl's crying right now. Like, what should I do?
Brenda
You know?
Michelle
And he's not like watching to be like, okay, let me, let me see what's going on with her. Because when she's done crying with Kyle, let me go in there. He's just on his phone.
Brenda
He's like checking his. So she's.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
So Carl's like, I hate when our 10 year relationship gets talked about as if it was 100 bad. It's like, I know, I'm sorry. And then she just kind of like ices and watches, walks away. I was like, oh, cold.
Michelle
That's fair. That's fair. Because it was. It was really only 95 bad.
Brenda
Yeah, well, you were only there 90 or 10 of the time, babe. So Kyle walks away and they get back to it and Lindsay's still like, I haven't learned anything. Okay, I'm taking over now. And Andy's like, okay, Lindsay, geez.
Michelle
He's like, should we just start over? He's like, hey, everyone, welcome to the summer house.
Brenda
And then Lindsay just goes off. She takes over the reunion. And it's so funny. But it's Lindsay. So Lindsay is known for not being able to give a good speech. I mean, a short speech.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
So it just goes and goes. And we're like, oh my God, we know Lindsay. But it was still really funny to watch.
Michelle
And she's like, like, I just like, don't get it. I'm just like confused. Like, like such a big decision. It's such high risk. And you guys are saying you wait all these options before making the decision decision, but you didn't. Because look at it. All these guys are a mess. Carl's a mess. And if you weighed all these decisions, then surely you must have thought how this would affect more than just the four of you. And I'm looking at you, Wes, because you're the manipulator here. I was like, yes, thank you, Lindsay. This is great.
Brenda
Yeah. Yeah. He also made the first move. It's like, yeah. And you're like, not thinking it in a bird life, you know? And this effects. And this is where I loved it because this is. She laid it out like, she laid it out in a way that I was like, oh, that's why Jesse's crying.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brenda
Because she's like, this affects our jobs. Like, this could ruin our whole show.
Michelle
Do you remember what happened to Vanderpump rules?
Brenda
Yeah, that whole show couldn't recover. Everybody lost their jobs. Like, how am I supposed to get my Taco Bell contracts if you fuck this up, how's Jesse gonna work without a wingman? Like, how are these people gonna keep their jobs? And I really like that. And she's like, and then none of us even get to talk about anything else because it's the whole fucking day is you and your stupid fucking relationship. And, you know, all you guys can say is, well, we have a lot to think about. And I loved it. Yeah, read them the riot acts. She was like, you are messing with the summer house economy.
Michelle
She was great. I loved, I loved that she said. And all you guys can say is, we have a lot to think about after tonight. That was so good. I'm glad because like, that's what we're all saying right here. That's what we've spent the past, you know, hour and 28 minutes saying. Like, that's all that they can say. And I'm glad that like that Lindsay brought up right to their faces right at that moment. So Andy's like, all right, well, wow, this group really is at a crossroads. It's like Britney Spears over here. Kyle, what is moving forward look like for you?
Brenda
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Michelle
I know, like, I mean, it's clear you still love Amanda, you care for her. She's like family to you. How do you navigate the future? So he's saying he's been since this place been trying to be at peace. And you know, like, he's just like, he just wants to focus on an amicable breakup because, you know, the friends of both sides and the audience has to choose sides. We have friendships and bad breakups and you know, we've seen. See what it does to friends. And like Andy, I don't know, I don't know where we go from here. Like, I really, like, I know I said on your show, whatever makes me unhappy, I'd be happy about. But like, candidly, this is not something I ever thought would be possible.
Brenda
When he says the audience has to choose sides, Amanda goes, and we never want. We don't want that. That's what we don't want too Late.
Michelle
Stupid.
Brenda
So then a flashback to watch what happens when Kyle was saying it would catch me by surprise. If Amanda and West were together, it would feel reckless, but if it made Amanda happy, I think I'd just vote yay. And he's like, Andy asked Sierra that. She's hurt, obviously, and upset with the situation, but do you think this was cathartic getting it out today? And I don't see you reconciling. It's like, yeah, it was cathartic. It's nice to be able to move on with my life. So, yeah.
Michelle
All right, well, this is a very tense reunion, so we are gonna try to end it nicely. So, Sierra, you raise $160,000 for Girl Scout troop 6000. So we're gonna feed everyone Girl scout cookies. Okay? Everyone. So they all. They hand out girl scout cookies, and they're all gonna do a toast. And west starts to eat one. Amanda's like, don't eat yet. We're cheersing.
Brenda
I said they were tiny weenies. I really am crazy today. So, yeah, she's like. When cheersing was gone, I was like, here it comes. Well, it's ironic because this was the most fun season of Summer House, but also the most depressing reunion. God damn, this hurt. Okay, well, this is great. Newbies. You were great. Sorry, none of you. Bailey, congrats on your one line. That was great. It was a good thing against Ben, but whatever. Go to bravo tv.com. can I leave now?
Michelle
And by the way, Bailey, be sure to tell Levi, like, we hope to meet her someday. She was actually on the stage earlier. No, I'm pretty sure she wasn't.
Brenda
No. I'm gonna call the medium, and we are gonna actually hear Bailey's voice or Levi's voice one day.
Michelle
That was it. Good reunion. There's the thing next week. My only hope for the upcoming season as we wrap this up up, is that I hope they. That the producers don't try to be super morose like they did with Vanderpump Rules. Like, keep the show totally the same. We will all move forward, but let's not have it be super serious.
Brenda
I don't think that's gonna work. It's gonna. It's looks like serious, but we'll see.
Michelle
Don't kill it. Don't kill the show. Producers. That's what we're saying. Yeah, the vibe, right?
Brenda
All right, guys. Well, thanks so much. We will talk to you next time.
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Watch What Crappens #3405 Recap: "Summer House S10E19 Part 2: How the West Was Spun"
June 10, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
This explosive episode is the conclusion of the Summer House Season 10 reunion, digging deep into the tangled web of friendships, betrayals, and messy hook-ups among the cast. Ben and Ronnie provide their trademark blend of mockery, sharp insight, and Bravo-loving snark. The main focus is Wes' controversial relationship timeline, Amanda’s choices, shifting loyalties, and the emotional carnage left in the group. The hosts and their alter-ego characters probe just how real—or fake—redemption and regret can be in the Bravo universe.
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Anyone who missed the Summer House reunion and wants the highlights, sharpest insights, and all the addictive drama—delivered with Watch What Crappens’ signature irreverence—will be fully up to speed with this summary.