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Who cares what happens when there's so much? What happens when there's so much that happens?
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Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay? It's before this one. Bye, enjoy the show.
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And then when he's like, you know, my heart sympathizes with people like tj, Brad and Lake identifying on the spectrum. I was like, did I come out of the closet? It's like, oops, I meant Michaels. He's just the other, the other black man on the show.
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Yeah, I know. I was like, well, there's another one. It's another microaggression Whoopsies. He's like, yeah, you know, like, tj, Brad Lake, and, you know, they identify on the spectrum, you know, the LGBTQ spectrum. See, I've got all the letters. I've memorized them. That's what I'm talking about. This is someone who could maybe be gay one time. I know the letters.
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He only knows 30 of the letters. So then they're all laughing because he said Brad. So Justin's. Justin's basically like, yeah, I feel like I've had to answer this, and even in my relationship with Charlie, it's just like. It's a lot, you know, it's like, yeah, well, you know what? Like, by the way, we, like, we shouldn't even be, like, talking about that, you know? You know, and so anyway, Andy goes on to Mia. If the messiness of Jordan didn't happen, would you have actually given Justin a chance? She's like, no, no, no, no, no.
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I.
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You know. You know, we just realized we were just pretty good friends. The Jordan situation, it just was too messy for me. It just felt like, you know, I said on the show, the baby mama drama with no baby, you know, also look at this guy. I mean, look at who I was with and look at this guy. Am I really going to downgrade for that? No. It's like, I've reached. I've reached Delta, Delta one status. I'm not going back to economy.
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Not really, because she fucked west, which she admitted last week, so.
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You gotta get a connecting flight on Spirit every once in a while.
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Once once in a while, you have to go to a regional airport. Even the best of us wind up at the, you know, we're all on here some days. Airport, you know? Yeah.
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So Justin's like, oh, come on. Me and Jordan, that was like a situationship. But it was never like, you know, we were exclusive. We were going on dates and teachers like, oh, like, getting excited over there because, like, it's like, you know, like, this guy's so full of. And Justin's like, yeah. Andy says, were you hiding it for. From production for a reason? And Lake's like, yes. And he says, I don't think I was hiding it from production. Oh, my God, where have we seen Justin before? Oh, yeah, every Bravo show, please.
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What's. What's actually hilarious to me about this because I was thinking, Ronnie hasn't talked about Summer house in about 20 minutes, and I think he wants to talk about it some more. But what's funny to Me is that he basically is. Has to be on the same defense, make the same argument that Wes had to a day prior about, like, no, we weren't like, exclusive. That's crazy. But I think he does it better than west does. He's like. Because his vibe is like, what are you people talking about? I never said it. Like, I'm sorry that she felt that way, but it never was that way. And that's on her. And she's kind of like, what? Like, everyone, calm the down. This was not exclusive. You guys are making a big mess. Like, his vibe is kind of like, what's wrong with you people? Whereas west was like, well, I. Like, she may have thought it, but, like. Like, it wasn't. But like, maybe I was like, unclear. And so it's like, well, he was
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caught in a way that. That this guy wasn't. I mean, this guy was consistent the whole season and being like, Jordan. I told Jordan the truth the whole time, and Jordan's just acting psycho. Typical girl. So he stayed consistent. Whereas west was like, what? Yeah, well, we were never even together until they got on the phone with Mia, and he knew it. And then he had to backtrack and be like, oh, but, like, okay, well, like, maybe, like, I. Maybe she thought that, but like, okay, maybe I made her think that. But like, Justin is new. Wes has had three years for us to learn and everybody to know Justin is new, and he still thinks he's tricking people. Sir, we are not tricked.
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Or. Or you do. Or you do the Mia thing that she does a little bit later. I mean, just. I still think Justin. If Justin were in the summer house scandal, I still think he would have handled it better than Wes. Actually. Better. He would have handled it more slicker.
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He's a slicker douchebag.
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He would have done it more slick. More slicker. More slickly. It's kind of like, you know, it is. It's like. It's just like the lack of art that Wes brings to his scandal is really disturbing to me. Like, it's not that it's going to move the needle, but, like, if you're going to be the scandal, be good at it. Yeah. Like, at least, like, take some lessons on how to be. How to do this. This. This thing. Okay, But. Or look at Mia, who later on, they. They. They trap her in some stupid lie, and then she goes, oh, my bad.
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Yeah, Mia's really good at the. Like, I didn't do it, and if I did do it, I was justified. And, you know, whatever. Whatever. That saying is. And then, like, and who cares? You know, Mia just ends it all with, like, so what? Who cares?
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Yeah, get over it. So anyway, so that now they start coming. They're coming for Justin. About, like, were in a relationship. It wasn't. It wasn't just a casual thing. There were toothbrushes, etc. And, like, I've seen text messages.
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I bought those in bulk from Costco. So whatever.
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I love Costco Defense. Total ho.
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He's like, whatever. I've got him. I've got him there for everybody.
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Yeah. It's actually so funny when he said, I got. I bought them in bulk from Costco. I had missed the toothbrush setup, and I had no idea why he was bringing Costco into it. But I was too lazy to go back. I was like, I don't know what this is about. About. But, like, whatever. We'll figure out tomorrow.
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Yeah, that was it. They're like, she even had a toothbrush at your house. He's like, please, I get those in bulk from Costco. And, like, it's like, you're lying. And you even bought her clothes. And Maddie's like, toothbrush for you. Toothbrush for you. Are your. Are your text messages between you and Jordan or text between Justin and Jordan? Because, like, has some proof. And like, like, look, I've got text. It's Justin and Jordan tags. And she sent them to me because she was like, he's downplaying the relationship. And Justin' like, please, can I just clear the air before this gets dirty? Okay? And, like, saying, Jordan's just like, I don't want to get hurt. This just isn't enough. Like, she's just kind of, like, venting to him. And then Justin goes, I shape my days around you. Oh, God. Well, like, I mean, Jordan, hopefully this is your lesson in life. Like, I know she's still really young, but if a man says he shapes his days around you, this man's a pig. And the same way he's talking about Chuck. Where is that? I'm just lucky to. To own her. I'm just lucky enough to claim her.
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What is exactly getting shaped around Jordan? Like, what is Jordan?
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What.
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What is. What is Justin doing during the day that is being accommodated for, like. Like, what is. What is happening? Is it that he's shooting his only fans? Like, oh, I decided to shoot my only fans at 10am instead of 11am I mean, what else is happening in his life? He went to the store, got some protein. So, like, let's, like, not get. Let's not get too excited about having your day, like, having your day shaped by Justin. So, yeah, we see all these screenshots of him being a cheese ball, and Justin's like, well, you guys aren't seeing are the conversations had in person. Like, that's a huge part of this. The bottom line was she wanted something more in the relationship. And unfortunately, that's not my issue. But you don't think there's anything you did, though, to make her feel that way? Like, I just don't like this narrative. Like, oh, the girl's crazy. The man's not. Like, what the thing is, like, it's like, girls are the way because of man. Okay? Man does that to a girl. Okay. Like, you don't. Like, you don't think you bombed her older. You're going. Going to be exclusive. Come on. And like's like, yeah, we talked about, like, exclusivity with her before. Like, before Adisto. And then you went and you kissed Mia.
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Yeah, that he's so full of. Because we saw on camera a scene with him and Jordan where she's like, at his house kissing him on the counter or the couch. And he's like, well, you know, we'll just take it as a guy. He says something like, we're taking it as it goes. And she's like, just don't date one of my friends, you know, and then he immediately goes and does the Mia thing, you know?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Which I mean, Mia would say, well, we're not even friends. But she was saying, like, don't. Don't embarrass me and start fucking people in our circle. Which he totally did.
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I mean, the guy, you look at his face and his only fans account, you just have to assume is, I'm going to embarrass you at. I'm going to embarrass you. Yes.
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And Charlie, too. Like, Charlie, duh. He's using you. What do you. Why do you think he's dating you, Charlie? You think it's because you work in an art. It's because you're on tv. Guys just make it. Let's just make it easy.
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Then he's like, and what is the harm about exploring my dating life as. As someone in their young 20s? I'm like, young is crazy. That man's 30. He's like. He's like, wait. It comes to a point where there's, like, no need to argue about it. Like, this is. This is defamatory. It's just defamatory. So TJ's like, Lake needs to give it up. Like, I think she has a crush on the crush on Justin. Justin's like, yeah, it's high school drama. I'm not going to be defamed here.
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Oh, okay. Poor guy. So, like, like, you hurt my friend's feelings, and this is me defending my friends. And Justin's like, you guys weren't even friends. Jordan didn't even like you.
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Yes, she did. She liked me as a Jordan, like, Lake as a friend. She liked me. No, she didn't. Lake and Maddie's like, what? They just went to Japan together and she hated every time. She was like, oh, I love Japan. Wish Lake weren't here.
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Yeah, I love that we just went to Japan together. And then they show them together and they're like little Pokemon hats or whatever they're wearing.
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Full of hatred.
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I'll ask for Lake Justin goes exactly. Maddie as well. Yeah, well, you've been sitting there rolling your eyes and arguing with everything Maddie said and trying to undermine her relationship. This whole reunion. Justin. So you can sit there and take it for a second. You dick.
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He was the one who last episode just said, aren't I allowed to react to something? I'm here. Aren't I allowed to react?
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Yeah. And Maddie's like, we're friends with Jordan, Andy. Okay? And like Justin just got here. Like, I'm sorry, not Maddie. We've worked with Jordan. Like she's been here like two years. This guy just got here.
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Justin's like, you don't talk to Jordan at all. Maddie. Maddie. You told me to stay away from Jordan. Yeah, Jordan's been on life for years. She works with. She's. Look, look at Jordan. She's the life of the party. She's just the, the spark of the fire. Look at her. Look at the way she lights up the camera. We all love Jordan. Don't destroy Jordan.
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He claims that she said, dump Jordan because Ali Luber is coming to Charleston. So go date her. Because basically, you know, basically bring her onto the show. But, like, bring her onto the show, you know?
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And then Grace, of course, like, well, why didn't she ever date me? He's like, well, I would, but we would. We would have been on a good d. Know. Okay, okay. Wait. Were you trying to set him up with Ally Luber?
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Like, no.
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No, I wasn't. I advised him not to be a Jordan, to end the whole thing, because, like, she was being lied on. And I was like, date other people. I was like, here's an example. Ally. She's used to being lied on. She's okay with it.
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Yeah. And Justin is like, but, like, she knew I was dating. Well, how long did you date? I don't know. Like, I really don't even know. Maddie says, since Vegas. And Mia's like, since Vegas. Maddie's like, yeah, they were, like, hooking up in Vegas. You know? Like, you don't know how you're not friends with her. Like, you go to Vegas with her, though. Okay, cool. Like, who goes to Vegas with people that they're not, like, with?
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Yeah. By the way, do you hear that banging? Did you hear that banging here? If you didn't hear it, that's good. My parents, of course, hired a workman to change the shingles on the house.
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On.
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Outside my. Outside my wall today. Today, there's someone changing shingles while I'm podcasting.
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You're kind of far away in the monitor. What is your background?
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My background? Well, there's a window there is your bedroom.
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I thought you had, like, a fake background on there.
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Like, no, no. This is my real childhood bedroom. And you know what? It's. If it looks like there may be a new shingle has new shingle energy. That's because that's exactly what's happening. Shingles coming on, new shingle, all the shingle, ladies.
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So Mia's like, I didn't go to Vegas. I didn't go to Vegas with Jordan. We were on a group trip, and Maddie's like, oh, yeah. Were you not in Vegas? Las Vegas, Nevada, with her? Were you not? And. And me is like, calm down. Why are you so upset? Are you so upset, Maddie? Just, like, stop gaslighting me. Stop it. Stop saying calm. Calm. I'm talking to you like a normal human being. Hi. Who in this group thinks me as a girl's girl? Just raise your hand.
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Yeah. Who in this group does not think that Mia's a girl's? Girl, raise your hand. So guess what, everyone, if you raise your hand, we're covering the entire spectrum of options.
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Talking about.
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So Justin's like, guys, this is crazy. Guys, we weren't even together. Oh my God. Justin, shut the up. Like, I don't care about you. And upset with Mia for more than the Jordan trauma, like literally right before. Okay? He's like, well, so what is it? Do you not like me and me because of some other reason? She's like, let me speak.
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Michael's like, let her speak. You are gaslighting. And Andy just laughs. He's like, this isn't gaslighting. What are you guys talking about saying? Gaslighting for every single thing. That is not gaslighting.
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He gaslight. It's like he gets us late like 24 7. He does Andy.
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Okay, geez. I'll let. Yeah, the God kids and like, let me not if anyone's wondering where Mia's coming from. Mia goes, what even is a girl's girl? What is that?
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Okay, let me clear. Let me clear everything up. So we went to a movie premiere party, me, you, Joe Michaels. And we all decided to go out after. So we started uptown and then we made our way to Republic. And then I see an ex. And you knew, you. You knew that the ex cheated on me on Valentine's Day, actually. And I was like, hurt by that. And then you, Mia, you decided to like walk up to him. And I'm literally like, no, no, but you walked up to him and basically
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that's Lake saying that. And Mia's like, yeah, you told me to go up to him. She goes, no, I didn't. I did not tell you to go up to him. That's wrong. I would never tell you to go up to him. She goes, yeah, you did. You told me to go up to him. You did. And you were like, go see what he's here for. Especially knowing your male centered energy. I would not tell you to go up to him. He's like, that's not male centered talking. Like, what are you talking with the girls girl center? What?
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Yeah. She's like, no, I wouldn't tell you to do that. Mia's like, okay, you know what you need? You need to be quiet. Shush. You know what? You went up to my ex and you had a whole 15 minute conversation with him. She goes, okay, I would not talk to him for 15 minutes. I was like, oh, my God, I don't even want to go over there because that ex traumatized me. And then you came Back giggling like, oh, my God. Him and his new girlfriend are getting a dog together. Like, that's the girl that cheated on. On me. Like, that he cheated on me with. Like, why would you talk to them?
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I reported back to you because you asked me to go talk to him. So sorry. Like, what do you like? I'm an investigative reporter. What are you talking about?
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No, I did. Then I said, why the fuck did
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you go Then why would I go talk to him?
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You're lying.
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It's like, why would I go talk to some 20 year old dude? You're lying. But why would I even go ask anything? Like, you're trying to instigate. You were trying to start something. Just why? But why, though? Like, I don't even care. You can't humiliate me because I don't even give a about you. I don't care about you either. And Andy's like, can you just apologize to her and move on? You're gaslighting me.
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She's like, I have already apologized to her about it. No, you didn't. She's like, roll the clip outside of emo night. Okay, I did. So then we see this onyard footage where Mia's telling like, I feel really bad that I talked to your ex and if you didn't like it, I'm sorry, I would never ever do that again.
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See, Mia's such a liar because this is saying like, well, then why did you have to apologize if she told you to go do it in the first place?
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Well, either way, I mean, yeah. Yes.
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Like, why would you have to say, I'm really sorry you got mad at me talking to your ex? If that was the case, that then she would have said, I only talked to your ex because you asked me to, you know?
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Yeah. And so, like, yeah, you go bad
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that I don't even care that Mia lies. I think that me, I don't care.
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I don't care. Because it's also stupid. It's like, so Lake is like, you go up to my ex is overstepping. She goes, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. So now we're back and Mia's like, see, you were so up you couldn't even stand straight. She goes, well, if you apologize, I don't forgive you. And he goes, wow.
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And they all start laughing. I mean, it's like, okay, well, boom. Then okay, you said, like, I don't forgive you. Like, I don't care.
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She's like, I really don't care if you forgive me or not. I do like that because Mia's like, I don't know who this little girl is. She's annoying to me.
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I regret not slapping you.
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Braga's Lake, you're being a mean girl. You guys were talking about how I'm immature, how I held my head down and now my head's up and I'm looking at you. And Mia's like, no, you're not. Okay. Did you stand in the mirror and rehearse that line, dumbass? She goes, dumbass. It's like Brady's sister than you don't
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even start with me. She's like, yeah, I don't know about that one, guys. Leva comes in. She's like, guys, I think that Lake just has, like, more sensitive feelings. And the two of you are, like, very good at dissociating. I like, she's calling one side of the couch basically sociopaths. She's like, this side of the couch feels things, and that side of the couch doesn't feel things. So maybe we can come somewhere in the middle.
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Yeah, she's like, doing the. What's it called? The. What's the. The what's the. She starts basically doing, like, intj. Entj. You know, she's like, okay, I've decided that you are sensing and you're introverted and, you know, you're feeling like. She's basically doing, like. Like, very basic psychology on them all.
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Yeah.
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Brickman. Brickman, whatever. You know what I'm talking about.
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I really don't.
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You don't. The. You know, it's the.
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I was just saying quiet to not sound stupid, but now that you're gonna press me on it, I'm stupid. So what?
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Remember the name of it?
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Profiles.
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What'd you call it?
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The Ingmar Bergman. Marissa Hargitay's father. Ingmar Bergen.
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Yes. Yes. I just can't remember. It's like, Brickman, Myers Briggs.
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Don't I look like I'm my goal weight? Because my camp, my calf is my body.
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Look, wait, hold on. I'm coming back from my Myers. That's funny. Go away. My Myers Briggs. So anyway, sorry to everyone who just had to endure all of that. So love is like.
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Yeah, I don't believe it. If it's not like, on Tick Tock, I don't believe it. As far as psychological profiling.
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You're such an em. Tj. Oh, my God, tj. So Michaels is like, well, you know, she wants to be you so bad. Like, why don't you see it? And so mom is Like, Molly. Sorry, I'll back up. Leva says, okay, I think, like, Lake has more sensitive feelings, and I think the two of you are very good at disassociating. And Michael. Michael says, like, it's you and Molly. So while you and Molly disassociate because. Because she wants to be you so bad. Like, what? Why don't you see it? And Molly's like, I think the reason that you're saying that is because we are similar and we are both very, very strong individuals, and we don't have any identity out of someone else's opinion. Oh, you don't have any identity?
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Yeah. And like, she's like, not true. Like, do you not see my art career? And me is like, art career? Really? What's your art career? You put. You put a couple of pictures of an eye in Zack stacks.
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Sex backs. Molly, you've been vocal about how triggering it is to have your appearance scrutinized. So when Le called you and Mia fake with fake titties, what did you think about that? Are your titties actually fake? How large are they? Tell me everything.
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They're not fake, by the way. They're just reduced. I mean, it's like, still her. It's still on her stuff. It's still her stuff.
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Molly has talked about me around town. Like, she even got kicked out of a A section because she was talking to my friends like, wow, A section. Was it the. Was it the fiction section at Barnes Noble? So Andy's like, so don't you all talk about each other, though? Why are we still recording this reunion? Have we kind of peaked? And Michael's like, y', all. We all talk shit about each other, but, like, nobody in this room is innocent.
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You guys are exhausting. So, Lake and Mia, you're in a bad place. Okay, I guess we'll just leave it there. I'm not going to try and make people make up anymore because I'm being gaslit. So, commercials.
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Mia's like, yeah, it's. It's just that he wouldn't commit. And I also, like, wouldn't commit to moving to Charlotte. And he's like, but do you still see him? Yeah. I mean, we're single, and we mingle in a talk and everything. I just. I just really. I just. I. He doesn't want to come to Charleston. And, like, I'm Is like. Like, you know. She's like, but, I mean, if he's the love of your life. I mean, Andy, you tell me, okay, how I. How do I navigate marriage in that situation, Living three hours away from each other and, you know, it doesn't have to be marriage. Okay, you know what, Joe? Be quiet, Joe.
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But he's the love of your life.
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Wouldn't you just go there? She's like, I hate Charlotte.
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She's like, I hate it there. And basically, she's like, all my friends are in Charleston. I've established myself in Charleston. I'm on a TV show in Charleston. Why would I quit doing a TV show for some guy? Like, duh.
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Why would I go to Charlotte? Yeah, I think so, too. She's like, I can be in a cute city with cobblestone. You know, cobblestone stuff everywhere. Or I can go to Charlotte, where there's, like, bank of America. Like, she's like, I'm staying at Charleston.
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Yeah, exactly. And Molly's like, well, I think it's important to know that he got a promotion and now he can have more freedom. So I think these things are finally in the works for me. I mean. Yeah, that is important.
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That's. That is important to know. Thank you for bringing that up, Molly. So Mia's like. She's like, well, the story may be changing soon. I don't know. I'm still waiting for him to figure it out. Out, you know?
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Like, did you cheat on him? Because I heard you cheated on. She's like, no, I didn't. Yes, you did. When did I cheat? My friend told me. Oh, really? Who's your friend? Like, who is who? Who is it?
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He doesn't want to be named. Oh, of course.
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But he told me. She's like, oh, yeah, the guy in the sky. Was it Jesus? Was it Jesus who told you he
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had sex with you right before you went to Hawaii?
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No. No, he didn't. And Michaels is like, yeah, and you also lied about Wes. And I have DMS of your sister texting me in the morning looking for you in New York City.
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And she's like, basically, she's like, what? What are you talking about? Like, lying about West.
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She.
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She's like, when did I lie? What are we talking about? I just said there was no romantic connection.
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Connection.
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Yeah.
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And Molly's like, yeah. And I also said that in the press, basically, me, because they were like, oh, my God, Mia, Mia, Mia. Thinking I was Mia because we're basically the same. And so, like, I took the interview, and yeah, I was like, wow, there's just no romantic connection. So glad to be on this show. I'm adding, yeah.
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I mean, you even told Sally Carson to go west because the dick was so good. And she's like, I didn't tell Sally CARSON that. You 100 did. 1,000% did. She's like, no, she was going to him no matter what.
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1,000% you did it. And love is like, yeah, actually, I was there when you told him that or when you told her that, so. And everyone laughs, like, oh, even Leva said it. She goes, yeah, you said west was worth it. I was sitting right there.
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She's like, oh, okay, my bad. Well, I never cheated on Troy. If I did, I mean, I would say it, by the way. So I looked this up because this is what I do with my time. I said, when did Mia have sex with West? And that was in September of 2025. And then didn't Wes have a conversation with Miha in, like, in, like, October or so in the fall, also about going. Being exclusive around that time? My point is that he is going around. He is sleeping with a lot of people while he is apparently in this relationship with Mia, and it's just shitty. I just want to say it's just another feather into that cap. Or a bad feather into a bad cap.
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Another horse hair in that cap.
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Yeah.
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So, like, it's like, well, then maybe my friend's timeline is messed up, but I trust him. Okay, well, if your friend. You're not very good at this. You're. You're never gonna be, like, a lawyer. You know what I mean? Okay, well, maybe the time frame. He said around June, but, like, I don't know. Okay, well, dismissed. This case is dismissed.
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It's like, I don't know what to do with this. Like. Like, this is just, like, not compelled. I don't really care about your friend. I don't really even care that much about, like, Whatever this is.
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Mia's so upfront with who she's banging, I don't think it really matters. You know, she's like, I broke up with this guy. I'm not getting what I wanted. I. Wes. Like, she's pretty upfront with everything that she does. So I'm confused. Why. Why we care who Mia's having sex with.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm confused, too. I feel like I saw something last night that. It was this run. A guy who's a runner. I. I just. I can't find it. And he was like, I met Mia. He basically like, I. What do you. What is she talking about? I met Mia like, like, way after I met her in like. Like August or September. I didn't meet her in July. I don't know what it was, but it's like, you know what? I. I like the way I don't care about this situation. It's like, I can't express it enough.
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Me too. So they're going back and forth on this timeline, and she's like, I didn't sleep with him till after Hawaii. And they're like, no, because you slept with him before Hawaii. And she's like, no, I didn't. So now we're going through this timeline of this, and I. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't really care. So, Mia, you went out with West a little bit. Okay. Where do you stand and what's going on with West? It's a big deal right now. You're on Bravo. It's like, we had a great time. I mean, it was nice. That was it. I feel bad for this situation now. Like, I mean, I feel worse for Sierra. That sucks.
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But did you guys have sex? She's like, yeah, we had sex. Yeah. And Michael's like, you know, she just admitted it. And he's like, what's wrong with you? What, do you want to catch me in some sort of lie? What's your beef? Because you're a liar. I mean, you do lie. She's like, I don't lie everyone. And he's like, okay, okay, okay. Maddie, I can't. I really can't hear any more of this. Maddie, a joke. Congratulations on your puppy adoption. Did we really run out of what is happening on the show? I could have sworn more happened in the season. What's your puppy's name?
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And how does Lake feel about it? So they adopted a puppy. They've been raising it together at Maddie's house, and she still has hesitations about Joe moving in.
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We have to Wait, I do want to talk about the great backstory on the dog's name. Joe says his name is Ozzy. And then, in case you were wondering, he says we came up with it when we were watching the Osbornes. Wow. Thank you. Thank you for that insight.
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We.
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On how you named your dog Ozzy,
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like, and presumably because Oz, Rip passed away, you know, around then. But I just think that's bad juju to name your dog after somebody that just passed.
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Yeah, well, sometime as a tribute. Tribute. I think it's okay.
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Well, I mean, when they've been passed for, like, a while, but, like, somebody just, like, when that's what's on your mind, like, so and so just passed. Let's name our dog that. I don't know. It's like, that's not. That's not, like, exactly a cheers to a long life, you know, what if,
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like, Ozzy Osbourne's spirit, like, it was like, the dog was named when Oz, just as Ozzy died and Ozzy's spirit went float right into the dog, and then there's, like, gonna be another dog named Sharon, like, Ozzy.
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Get help. They give me a trip every once in a while. That's how much I asked for based on a post. What I did ask me to piss on. So you want me to go outside. But a. Why you got a post in your house? You don't want me to piss on it?
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Yeah, I think. I think that'd be a great life for a dog. For Ozzy's spirit. Being a dog would be in dog form.
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Rip Oz. All right. So it was like, yeah, like, I just moved into Maddie's house. Like, she's gonna buy a house, but I'm not gonna own it. But she's gonna own it, but I'm gonna pay, like, rent there, and that's gonna go towards the mortgage. So that's what we're doing.
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Yeah.
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She's like, yeah, why would I buy a house with a guy that I'm not with? I like that Maddie has such a head on her shoulders, and people on the show act like, oh, my God, Maddie, what are you doing buying a house without Joe? And you're not committing to Joe. Joe's not just kind of a dummy. Why would she. Yeah, she's smart. She's like, I'm buying a house. He can live there if he wants and help pay my mortgage, but that's it.
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No one wants to entangle their financial prospects with Joe, Bradley, Leva, Maddie, anyone else. It's like, wait a second. Why aren't you opening up a bar with Joe Bradley? It' Joe Bradley. Why aren't you buying a house with Joe Bradley? It's Joe Bradley.
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Yeah. I mean, everybody we just see so many times on this channel and in life, people making stupid financial decisions and seeing someone who's, like, so smart about it. And the whole egg thing, like, keeping her own eggs and not putting Joe's sperm in the. You know, making an embryo with Joe. I mean, I think she's making the best choices, and people are acting like she's a crazy person.
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Yeah, because she says. She basically said, yeah, I'm not.
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I'm not.
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I'm not giving an egg to Joe right now. We're not there yet.
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Yeah.
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And. And so then Maddie is like, you know, she just needs her own timeline. She doesn't want to freak out about it. And Emmy's like, I'll probably get pregnant, like, three years.
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No one asks you, Emmy, who cares? And Grace, Lily's like, yeah, you know what? Just have sex three times a day. Say you're supposed to do it.
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Joe, what's your reaction when you heard Maddie say she doesn't want to waste her eggs by combining them with your sperm? Yeah, I mean, obviously that, like, sucks to hear, because, like, I don't know if she heard about it, but I'm, like, really into rooftops and weddings. So, like, part of me is like, we could have had the egg on. On a rooftop, and it would have been like, the egg would have had, like, a great life. But, like, you know. You know, she can see a future with me. And so, like, I don't know. I was hoping that she would see a future with me. It's like, yeah, but, like, I might only get one baby out of those eggs they got. So who knows? Love is like, yeah, like, listen, because
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you don't even need an egg sometimes. You know, I'm just a genetic explosion. That's what my parents said. They didn't even touch each other. You know, one minute my mom was holding the tiny dog, the next minute, I just came hula hooping out of her. Nobody even knows how it happened. I asked Jesus when I met him, and he said to ask Bob Marley, but then Bob Marley was having a coughing fit, and I just never really gotten him. Announcer but have you ever heard of evolution? It's basically me. I was Tadpole, and then I got legs. Next thing you know, I won a hula hoop championship. That's it. That's how babies were.
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All right, well, Joe, it came out at the end of the season that Molly had a conversation with Maddie where Maddie said she doesn't see herself marrying you. What was your reaction to that? Yeah, I mean, I really want to go to the bottom of that because, like, she said that to your face. And Molly's like, yes, 100%. And Matt's like, I did not. Like, you were like, you have, like, a really bad lying problem. I never said I'm not gonna marry him or I'm never gonna marry him. She's like, you did. Like, that's a compulsive lie. I, like, never said it. No, you said you didn't see yourself marrying him, and, like, you want to break the generational cycle and, like, you don't want to marry him. What? I was vulnerable about that on the show. I opened up about those things. You went on a podcast? Maddie doesn't share her relationship. I share my relationship more than anyone. Okay? Anyone on the show. Okay.
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I'm always like, well, they asked me about your relationship, and I said, I don't know. They don't share it with me. Then why are you spouting off Mally? Mally, Molly? Maddie's like, yeah, Then where are you commenting about it? And he's like, I mean, they asked her a question. Are they. Are they allowed to ask her a question?
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No, do not. You're not allowed to. You told me a DJ at lunch, okay? And, like, this is going on.
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That wasn't a podcast. When you were at lunch on camera, no one was asking. Asking you anything. You just brought it up. And Michaels is like, that's your thing. You like to Gaslight. And then you make little faces. I mean, he's like, she's talking about a podcast. Okay. Then she's talking about a lunch. Like, wait, wait, like, are we talking about a podcast? Are we talking about a lunch? Like, what are we even doing here?
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Okay, okay, Let them talk. Let them talk this out. It's a really important point for America. Joe's like, wait, so when did she tell you that? When did. Like, when did she say that she didn't want to marry me?
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As I confided in you about his drinking? Do you think I would be wasting my time in a relationship on my biological clock with someone I don't want to marry? And love is like, wait, are you guys listening to each other? Because she said that you said you're not going to marry him at this time, and you're saying you're not ready to marry him at this time. I think you guys are kind of talking about the same thing.
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And Molly's like, yeah, I mean, and that's vastly different than I do not see myself marrying Joe. That's vastly different. You know, And. And he's like, okay, so, Molly, what did you say? What did she say to you at the lunch? Well, she doesn't see herself marrying him. She wants to break a generational cycle. This is before all of your conversations with him that I gaslight. That's what I do. I make small faces and guess. Okay, you're just repeating things people just said two seconds ago. Thank you very much.
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I would just ask that you guys respect my art career. Okay? That. That's what Blake said. I did not sleep with Oisin. All right, Molly.
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All right. I was very naive about microaggressions. Molly, you don't have to take this on. Okay? Be careful there. Yeah.
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And Maddie's like, yeah, and. And TJ said it too. And TJ's like, well, I was also hammered. And then we see the clip at the ending party where TJ's just with his new little messy boyfriend. He's like, oh, my God, these two. Like, Maddie said she doesn't want to marry Joe. It's so messy. And then you just see the boyfriend's face. He's like. He's, like, so thrilled with all of this.
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I just need you to be careful
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finding each other romance.
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I just need you to be careful about how you say things like. But you twist words. Molly's like, well, that's not how I meant it. It. She's. And Lake's like, you. You don't confide in her at all. Okay, I am curious. I am curious who here thinks Joe takes a relationship more serious than Maddie?
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Everybody's watched this show. I will say about all this Molly stuff. Molly is full of. And she takes little things she hears and tries to twist them and make them a storyline for herself. Like, oh, my God, you guys, guess what? Maddie told me. Maddie's like, I'm not even friends with you. Only so thirsty. But I kind of enjoy Molly after all these years. I mean, this is the first year that I remembered who she was. By the end, when this season started, I was like, cool. Yeah, I remember her now. So that's something.
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Yeah. I mean, look, baby steps. So Michael. So Michael's is saying, I think the thing is, in their relationship, Maddie pushes him to do more. And so I think Maddie's, like, not necessarily, like, doesn't necessarily work with pants, but, like, that's not the verbiage. I want to use, but, like, she keeps him accountable by making sure that he never has pants to wear because she's wearing them.
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I just want to say I also hold her accountable. Like, I. I basically make her, like, find my app works because, like, just use it all the time on me. So it's like, just basically testing it, you know, it's.
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It's like when she threw that thing off the balcony in my loft, and I was like, hey, I need that. It was, like, me holding her accountable because, like, I needed that. That.
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Yeah, but, like, can I say something, like, regarding, you know, like, the talking. This group, it's. It's like, got to stop if we're ever going to move forward. Joe, weren't you the one just doing the threesome rumor and everything else? Like, guys, we really got to stop talking about each other. You know, it's supposed to be fun, but, like, I don't want it to be to the point where we're, like, not having fun anymore.
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Yeah, it should be really fun. And love is like, I think at some point, you guys need to pick the people that you want to have a friendship with and work towards that. And a lot of it is, like, you guys just, like, really upset. And I know Joe misses the boys. I know Brad is so deeply hurt. I know Emmy is deeply upset and feeling alone. And over here, like, she, like, she wants. This one over here wants support, and she doesn't know how to ask for. That's lake. And there are decades of friendships, and they're just, like. They're people just, like, don't understand. Like, these people to the left of me are high feeling people. They're. And these people to the right of me are not super high feeling people. The people on the left are, I guess what we'd call in the restaurant industry idiots. And the people to my right are just, like, dumb shits, you know? And it's just about, like, undering, understanding how to communicate with each other.
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Like, guys, let me break it down for you. There's two couches. This couch is full of babies and betas, okay? Baby betas. That side of the couch is filled with psychopaths. Okay? We just tried to get along. They're like, wow. And it's like, wow, Leva. We should do a toast with some mini weenies after we say bye to everybody. Bye. Michael calls. Bye, Grace. Lily. He does that whole thing, and then they bring out little weenies. And what was the other thing that they bring out?
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Weenies and teenies and teenies so these all come out. And then Andy's like, you can see. And he's so happy to be done with this. He's like, all right, everyone. See you all at Republic. Good job, everyone. I want to thank Leva and the Gabriel Republic for another dramatic season of Southern hospitality. I'm Andy going. For more information Nation, click around bravotv.com
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I enjoy the show. I'm glad it's over. See you next season. That. That reunion just killed me. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm sorry. Like, that reunion episode was just. It just.
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It.
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It like. It. I just felt like, what is happening? Why are we watching this? Okay, But I do love the cast. I love the show. I just felt like this was, like, not. Not a strong way to end the entire season.
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And it did. You go.
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Southern Hospitality S4E15 Part 2: "Time To Close The Tab"
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam | June 11, 2026
This episode is Part 2 of the reunion recap for Southern Hospitality Season 4, Episode 15. The hosts, Ben and Ronnie, deliver their signature blend of biting humor and Bravo pop culture expertise as they break down cast confrontations, relationship messes, and classic reunion drama. The vibe is irreverent and snarky as ever, with sidebars on social dynamics, Bravo tropes, and the quirks of the Southern Hospitality cast.
[02:24 – 11:06]
“I bought those in bulk from Costco. So whatever.” – Justin, as parodied by Ben/Ronnie ([07:42])
“If Justin were in a ‘Summer House’ scandal, I still think he would have handled it better than Wes. Actually better. He would have handled it more slicker.” – Ben ([06:19])
“The bottom line was she wanted something more in the relationship. And unfortunately, that’s not my issue.” – Ben, imitating Justin's attitude ([09:12])
[18:05 – 23:06]
“Mia’s really good at the, like, ‘I didn’t do it, and if I did do it, I was justified. And, you know, whatever.’” – Ben ([07:06])
“He gaslight… It’s like he gaslights us late, like, 24/7. He does, Andy.” – Ronnie ([19:17])
“Well, if you apologize, I don’t forgive you.” – Lake ([22:29])
“I really don’t care if you forgive me or not.” – Mia ([22:36])
[23:06 – 24:44]
“She’s basically doing, like, very basic psychology on them all.” – Ronnie ([23:31])
“The Ingmar Bergman… Marissa Hargitay’s father… Ingmar Bergen.” – Ben ([24:11])
[25:30 – 26:14]
“Art career? Really? What’s your art career? You put a couple of pictures of an eye in Zack stacks.” – Mia ([25:30])
[29:00 – 34:47]
“Yeah, they’re pretending to be broken up so she can date on the show and keep her job, just like they do on every other show on this network.” – Ronnie ([29:39])
“Mia’s so upfront with who she’s banging, I don’t think it really matters.” – Ben ([34:01])
[35:49 – 39:34]
“I’m buying a house. He can live there if he wants and help pay my mortgage, but that’s it.” – Ben ([37:34])
“I was Tadpole, and then I got legs. Next thing you know, I won a hula hoop championship. That’s it. That’s how babies were.” – Ben ([39:34])
[40:07 – 42:31]
“That’s vastly different than ‘I do not see myself marrying Joe.’” – Molly ([42:05])
[45:02 – End]
“This couch is full of babies and betas. That side of the couch is filled with psychopaths.” – Ben, mimicking Leva ([45:44])
Ben and Ronnie deploy their trademark sarcasm and Bravo expertise to peel back the layers of petty drama, cast delusions, and reality TV tropes. Despite some reunion fatigue, they find plenty to skewer—from Justin’s pathological denial to Molly’s storyline thirst and Maddie’s pragmatic approach to romance. The episode is a feast for Bravo fans who love their recaps as messy, hilarious, and referential as the shows themselves.
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