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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Caram
Welcome to Winter is Crappening. It's our Game of Thrones House of the Dragon podcast here at Watch what Happens. We are talking today about House The Dragons Season 3, Episode 2. Welcome back. Welcome back. If you're listening on Watch what Happens and you actually only care about this kind of coverage, then we have a whole separate podcast feed called Winter is Crappening where you can just get exclusively House the Dragons and Game of Thrones content. So go check that out. But it's being also simulcast here on Watcher Crappens. Welcome one. Welcome all. I'm Ben Mandelker. That's Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
Ben Mandelker
Good. What's going on with you, baby?
Ronnie Caram
Oh, I'm just enjoying a second episode in a row of House of the Dragons. That was really, really good. What's going on with you?
Ben Mandelker
Oh, my God. The show is so good. So, though. Geez. And so stressful. Oh, stressing me out. I was crying. I was stressing. And then, you know, I have to go watch all the recap videos and stuff after. I love it. I love it. Especially while Love island is on because that show is like, so insipid and this show is so great and smart. It's. It's a crazy brain switch going from one.
Ronnie Caram
I don't know if. I don't know if I'd say this show is so smart. I don't.
Ben Mandelker
I.
Ronnie Caram
Only because there's a fine line between Love island and House the Dragons. I mean, you got factions, you've got dragons, you've got fiery demises, you've got twists, you've got turns. So I don't know, to me it's just like another episode. It's basically like going to Casa More.
Ben Mandelker
Well, we did get some wiener today. And we did House of the Dragon, so that was good.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Before the episode began, there was a, A, you know, this is a. There was a viewer discretion advice. I think it was either on the screen or it just was. Was on like the Chiron. I did say nudity and I was like, oh, here we go. Typical Game of Thrones nudity. It's gonna be some more. More boobs. And it was actually penis. So.
Ben Mandelker
What a delightful wiener on this show.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, they do.
Ben Mandelker
They do give it to us. Remember we saw Eamon Sweener?
Ronnie Caram
Yes, that's correct. And this was, this was like hot wiener, I would have to say. So I was, I was, I was grateful. Grateful that they gave it a little something for us.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So here we go. Season three, episode two, the House that Dragons Built. So we open with a gorgeous shot and under, like from underwater, the camera's looking up and you see dead bodies floating around. And then you see fireballs and then dragons flying overhead. It's just very beautifully done. And of course you're like, who's that? Who's the dead person? You know, like trying to pause and figure out which the dead. I thought it was Jace. Wait a minute, that's not Jace. Who is it? What is that guy wearing, a boomerang or a big collar?
Ronnie Caram
Just a random extra. They're like, we're going to focus on the extra. The king is over there. I think we're the. The future king. Like, oh, that's right, Jace. Yeah, Jace. Just floating along, dead. Yeah. Those kids, they really are so inept in so many different ways. Like, all the kids, all the children on this show just do terrible things at all times. If there really is a. If there's ever like been a show that has said parents get your kids in order, it's this show because every single child has grown up to be a total menace. And they just keep on getting themselves into trouble. Every time one of them dies, I'm like, you guys brought it on yourself at this point. I'm sorry.
Ben Mandelker
Well, kids are done. Kids do bad things. When I was younger, I stole my parents car with my best friend and we went out all night joyriding and left our muddy boots, our muddy shoes at the door like an idiot and totally Got caught. And then my parents made me sleep outside for two nights and wow, that was bad. But you know what? At least consequences get like necked by some arrows, you know? We had it.
Ronnie Caram
Exactly.
Ben Mandelker
We had it. We have it easy in our time, you know, we still. I stole a Suburban. They're stealing dragons. It turns out a little differently, unfortunately.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Yeah. Well, the point is that kids can sometimes be a real disaster. And this show is just full of them. I mean, between Jace with this whole thing and then let's not forget what's her face with the. With the wild dragon Ba Ba. She just.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
B. B, what a disaster. Yeah, what a disaster.
Ben Mandelker
Just like every kid after up. Like.
Ronnie Caram
I didn't mean to.
Ben Mandelker
Sorry. Yeah. Can I hide here? So we open with this post war scene. It's depressing. And then we go to Dragonstone and Jace is being carried because he's brought home. Bayla leads him home. Oh, I'm sorry, did I say Bayla earlier? I didn't mean Bayla. I meant.
Ronnie Caram
I said Bayla.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, yeah, I said Bella Reina was the one who stole the thing.
Ronnie Caram
That's what I meant. But what I have to say is how do they find Jace's body? Like, there's a sea of. Of like generic people who are face down and he's just like one of many. And yet they can't find. They can't find Corliss. And he's got like a shock of white hair, big, big, long white dreads and like, where's that guy? But they can find this generic Jace in the middle of the ocean. Come on. They got.
Ben Mandelker
They found Corliss because that white hair in the wa. You know?
Ronnie Caram
I know, but like, how did they find Jace first?
Ben Mandelker
Hello. Corliss really made it a long way. He was like far away from everything when they found he. He really got drifted out out there.
Ronnie Caram
Drifted?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, they don't call it like, oh, I'm hurt. It's very like posed.
Ronnie Caram
He was. He was so dramatic.
Ben Mandelker
But also how did Bela swoop down and get Jace like that? Because those dragons, it's like they're so hard to control. But also I guess the better trained they are, it's like, okay, swoop down. All right, we're just gonna sit here for a minute. I'm gonna tie him up and then we're gonna get him. I mean, there's little details from the show that I'm curious about. You know, like, how'd they do that?
Ronnie Caram
Some Ryan Condal's listening and he's like, all right, well, I guess I'll just call up HBO and ask for 30 million more dollars so we could have a special effect. So we could see a dragon picking up Jace out of the ocean and bring him to Dragonstone to shut these two gay men up on the Internet.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, someone left us a comment on YouTube not for this show, but for our regular show and said, I can't believe these two. I mean, they just sound so gay. Why do they have to talk so gay? Why can't you be gay and not have to talk so gay? I wish would stop acting so gay. I just commented back, you're a literal idiot. We are really this gay.
Ronnie Caram
We can't help you think we would
Ben Mandelker
pretend to be this gay. We're literally this gay lady.
Ronnie Caram
Okay, yeah, my gay voice is just off the charts these days. When I hear myself on some. On just on this podcast or anywhere else, I'm like, wow, I am just flouncing my way through these shows.
Ben Mandelker
It's our note before we start the shows, right? Get Ben be gayer today. Okay?
Ronnie Caram
It's like, there. We may have a slight uptick in straight people listening to our podcast today because it's Game of Thrones, so just be as straight as possible. So, bro gayer, Yas Queen got Jay side of the ocean and bring it back to Dragonstone like the icon you are.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, we did open the episode talking about wieners, but my point is, we are that gay. I can't believe commenters are shocked. Okay, so now we're Dragonstone. Jace is being carried in and Bela, you know, it's leading. Everybody's carrying him over over their shoulders and stuff.
Ronnie Caram
It's like a mosh pit. It's like he's like crowd surfing, but he's like a dead person, so it's awkward.
Ben Mandelker
And of course, the first question isn't, oh, my God, who killed the model? Okay. Was he killed because he could not stay? Stop making Blue Steel face. What happened to. Nobody even asked. They're just like, the battle. And she's like, it was won, for Christ's sake. I'm bringing in my husband. Could you stop asking the score for 2 seconds? Blue Steel is dead.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, dead. So Raniero comes in. I guess they let her out. I also would have liked to have seen that scene of like, well, I guess you can come out now. There was. To me, that was actually the moment I was looking forward to the Most. Be like Ms. Queen. So we were thinking, can you make us dinner? Can you come out? Can you make us Dinner. We were going to let you out of the house in the other room now, so can you make us, like, check in or something? Like. Like, what was the scene where Sir Lauren opened the door, was like, you come out now.
Ben Mandelker
So she's out, unlock the door and run away. She'll figure it out, you know?
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, exactly. So she's out. Yeah. And she's not happy.
Ben Mandelker
And she, you know, she sees the body and she says, what have you done? And they're like, oh, she's about to tell everybody off, but she's talking to Jace and so she runs over to Jason. SOBS Then I'm crying.
Ronnie Caram
It was sad, but I kind of felt like one of those movies where there's, like, a bereft Southern lady who's like. Because I feel like normally the scene is always like, what have you done? What have you done? So the fact that it was sort of like a. It was coming from Raniera was like a different vibe for me, you know, like the sort of, like, melodramatic, like, talking to the. To the corpse as if it's alive, like, not accepting death. It was very sad, but it also. It's just. Was. It's just something I feel like I see in, like, sort of like crazy Southern melodramas instead.
Ben Mandelker
Or in my kitchen when the goat cheese is bad and I didn't know, and I was planning to have it that day for my lunch on a salad. And I open it and smell it
Ronnie Caram
and I'm like, oh, how could you? How could you do this to me? Are you wet? Were you in the ocean?
Ben Mandelker
So Rhaenyra's sobs and stuff, and she's, like, beating on his chest, which is funny because we do that in modern times to revive people. Doesn't always work. Sir Laurent, of all people, tries to pull her away. Sir Listen, my bald brother, I don't think now is the time. Okay, you're about.
Ronnie Caram
I mean, yeah, this is this performative bit. Like, listen, you've really messed up. You locked her in her own room, and now you're gonna pull her away from. From her son when she's grieving and she's the queen. You put your hand on the queen. So he tries to do that, and she's like, how dare you set your hands on me? How dare you, Sir Laurent. And he's like, my queen, I have failed you. My life must be forfeit. And what good would that do? Aside from being actually incredibly hilarious for me right now? I've got. That actually is probably good. All I need Actually. Okay, let's do it. Okay. Actually, here. Will it actually wake my son? No. Will it change the truth of his folly? And yours. And yours. All of you who knew Jacera's had done and stood by are your lives to not forfeit. Have you not betrayed your queen?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. She's like, not only did you lock me away, my son died. I also got really pissed and ruined a perfectly good dress. And do you know how hard good beating is to find these days? It is hard. All of you people, they're like, well, I'm sorry. So then we see Alan and he's looking for Lord Corliss in the sea. And he keeps shouting, lord, call us. I'm drowned.
Ronnie Caram
I know.
Ben Mandelker
Can a man get any rest? I am literally drowned. Stop. Okay.
Ronnie Caram
It's up to you.
Ben Mandelker
Use your. Find my. So then we go to Reina. Reina. She's like, lady Jane. Hi. She lands. You see her, her ass dragon behind her with his underbite.
Ronnie Caram
Like, Lady Jane's. I know, Lady Jane's all pissed because she was just in the middle of Pilates class and she's like, excuse me, I have to leave class early today because there's a dragon on my lawn. So she goes out to meet her and Reyna's like, I've done a terrible thing.
Ben Mandelker
And she's really good at face tremble acting. She's always like, yeah. It's like,
Ronnie Caram
yes. She also looks like she's 35 at this point. To your point last week about how there's so much time in between the seasons that all these kids are growing up in between her.
Ben Mandelker
Well, also it's like the hair color and she's just so stressed and now dirty. She's just like, I have aged 97 years. And of course Lady Jane still looks perfect and ironed hair and everything, like in a great dress. And she's like, what the are you doing? And she's like, help me. I did a terrible thing. She's like, so why'd you come here? Oh my God, the prince is dead. And now you're gonna bring all the dragons to kill me, you little butthead. You're supposed to be babysitting. Where are the children? Yeah, has anybody even asked where the children are? The children are just like Chuck E. Cheese somewhere, you know, they're in Pentos.
Ronnie Caram
They're on a ship to Pentos. You're supposed to be off to. Going off to Pentos. They booked an entire cruise ship. It's like, do you know how hard it is to get tickets on Those Disney cruises. And she just, like, didn't even go. And Wednesday, the dragons. So the kids are off to Pentos to live a new life, to get out of danger. And Reyna's now, like, well, so here's the thing. I accidentally burned down my grandpa's entire fleet and destroyed. Destroyed everything. And then a dragon died because of it. And then the error to the throne, which is also kind of like my uncle, he's dead, too. So can I just hang out here for a little bit? I swear I won't break anything.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, I don't give a shit. What are you doing here? You ran out of my house. Now you're bringing disaster to my doorstep. The queen's going to be hunting you. Get the fuck out of here. And she's like, no one saw that it was me. The only person who knew it was me is dead. And the other one's my sister. She won't rat me out. And she's like, yeah, you're an idiot. Get the fuck off my lawn, okay? You'll be electrocuted. And she's like, do you want a dragon or not? And then that stops her. And she's like, well, she does have a gigantic dragon that I've had this whole time, but I couldn't train. But she couldn't train either. But God damn, he's still there. Oh, his teeth are so cute. Why are dragons so cute? Get over here, you little rascal.
Ronnie Caram
I have been trying to see if an oversized Invisalign would work. So, okay, you can stay. So they're like, okay. She basically, like, hang out like, I'm not. I don't want to see you again. But if you want to stay here, I'm just gonna look the other way.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. She's like, if you stay in my backyard, fine, but you're not getting the guest again. I just cleaned.
Ronnie Caram
So now. Now we see Damon and his army of Tullies, which are, Notetaker kindly reminds me, mainly, are not to be confused with the family of Sam Tarly. That was my week. I was confusing Tully with Charlie and actually Frey as well. I confused everyone last week, and I apologize once again. I'm sorry that my game of throne cred is in the right now. But just call me Raina. Just come in, destroy everything. Despite my best intentions. But anyway, so Damon's out there, and they're all. The f. You know, they're just all happy. They're doing one of those things. One of my least favorite things in. In these sort of shows is like they're having a. They're having a good time. And so they're like. They're singing songs.
Ben Mandelker
My least favorite thing is when they're having a good time. But I know what you mean, because all of these have this scene, and they're usually like, in a tavern, and they're swinging their beer, they're swinging their beard back and forth.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. It's like, oh, no, no. And I went down the high season Saw a Kraken and you saw a Kraken Live to tell the tale and I said to the Kraken Won't you have some air with me? He gave some ale to the kraken on the sea and you're just like, oh, my God, just stop. It all feels like a ensemble scene in a school musical.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And they're always like a ripoff of the same song. It's like. Or what is that always? 99 bottles of beer on the wall I saw a dragon he was flying high Then he kicked the person's ass and that the guy was a guy. Yeah. It's like, wait a minute. Is this song just not copywritten because it's on every one of these shows.
Ronnie Caram
Can we just, like, get a songwriter in this? Like, just. Just to change up? I mean, Ed Sheeran made an appearance in the original Game of Thrones, and even he was singing these types of songs, he couldn't even figure it out then. I'm just so sick of the. Are they, like, shanties? Is that what it is? But it always. It always comes off. It's always. The thing is this. It's not just that they sing it. They always sing it in this, like, overly, like. Like stage productiony way where their. Their arms are, like, going left and right, like, hi ho, hi ho. You know, and it just.
Ben Mandelker
Laughing.
Ronnie Caram
It's just so school musical, you know, and I just. It's so funny. You have this prestigious production with money poured into it and about all these somber scenes, and you got, like, acclaimed actors like Matt Smith, etc, and they're like, okay, you guys are gonna have a good time. Like, okay, let's do our most basic acting. Like, hardy har, ho ho, we people now. Is this how happy people are this? Is this how they act in. In this world?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, you know. Yeah, I guess so. Because every show has it.
Ronnie Caram
Every show, every fantasy show. This is how happiness looks.
Ben Mandelker
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, so here's Sir Simon Strong. Hottie. So he goes to Damon. He's like sir, Sir Simon Strong. Your grace reminds you of the old times when the riverlands were ascendant music and meat Virile young men are happy times. We haven't learned to keep more teeth in our mouth since then, but still, God's good. At least we're singing the same songs. You know, it's nice to not have a new song on the radio ever, isn't it?
Ronnie Caram
I love that sweet Simon Strong. He's kind of like the Bruce Valanche of Middle Earth, you know, Not Middle Earth. Oh, God forbid, Westeros. You know, I feel like you could find him like sitting on a stool being like, oh, I remember the good old days back then we used to sing Sondheim until 2am I feel like he just has tales of Broadway and, and closeted men he once knew.
Ben Mandelker
So Damon, I'm also surprised Strong's even out because normally we just see him like sitting around literally eating at that dinner table all the time. And I'm always wondering where, where do you get your food and what is it? Because it seems delicious. He just looks like usually every scene of him, he's like being interrupted eating something.
Ronnie Caram
Well, isn't his, isn't the witch his chef? So she probably just literally concocts it with a spell.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, right. Just magic. She's like, she's like the medieval microwave. She's like, look, I did this in two minutes. Wait a minute, we don't even have noodles yet. She's like, I'm a witch. So it's like, enjoy it.
Ronnie Caram
Fantasy. Great, great, great Westeros Baking Show. It's like, today you will be making a tower profiteroles. Oh, you're already done. Well, you know, I'm a witch, so
Ben Mandelker
Simon's like, I bring gifts in token of your victories and the finest wine. And by the way, a note from the queen. Your son's dead. Okay, I'll just be over here. Go ahead.
Ronnie Caram
I'll just be over here being just the lovable queen of the lands, if you know what I mean. I'm sure nothing terrible will happen to me in the next 45 to 50 minutes on this television show. So he reads the let Daemon reads it. And then Lord Oscar Tully is like, yo, Grace, is there something amiss? And he's like, I have to go. The crown prince is dead. I'm summoned to King's the newt now to King's Landing to claim the Iron Throne for our queen. He's basically like, I gotta leave. I'm going back.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, my time here is done. Now we're gonna go fight for Ray Ray. Okay, let's do it.
Ronnie Caram
I don't have to be in this storyline anymore. I could be back as part of the real show. Bye, everyone.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. To King's Landing. Finally. I'm not gonna have a hallucination today. So they're like, oh, King's Landing. Ba ha ha. King's Landing. Bottles of beer on the wall. King's Landing. So then we go to Alice and Damon and they're standing by the river. And this was the best scene because it's Soxes just drinking water. Oh, my God. It was so cute.
Ronnie Caram
That was. That was nice. See to see. I like elements like that. Like, how do the to the dragons ever get thirsty? They do. And this. They drink water. Just like that. So Alice, like, I've seen that you're coming. Has been an omen of the end. He's like, yes. He's like, the end of what? Many things and the beginning of others. Could you just speak in normal sentences for one sake?
Ben Mandelker
No kidding, Dr. Seuss. Just spit it out. Okay. This isn't poetry slam. Not everything is a performance. Just say one thing, Alice.
Ronnie Caram
Just get. Just spit it out, Shel Silverstein.
Ben Mandelker
The best thing Alice ever did was when she came out was like, I'm a witch. Okay, thank you.
Ronnie Caram
Finally, it's like, I would like to thank you for your help. Thank you for making me hallucinate for days on end only to learn that I'M just gonna die by a tree somewhere. But I'm not sure what your purpose has been, says the audience. And Alice is like, well, I've done. I've done the Queen a service. I put 40,000 rivermen at her call, tell her I want Harrenhal, the most beautiful piece of real estate in all the land. I've lived here my long life. Long life. I mean, hundreds of years. My skin care is, quite frankly, amazing. And I've seen it given from hand to hand, and yet none seem to cherish it. Why should it not come to me, okay?
Ben Mandelker
You need to ask for things before you do the thing for the other person. You know what I mean? Like, you can't save the person's life, give them everything they want, and then demand a price. That's just not how it works, okay? It's not how it works now. And I'm sure it did not work like that back then. And Darren's like, lady, have you lost your fucking mind? Who are you? Like, you don't have a name. You don't have a title. You don't have a husband. That's very important, okay? And we don't just give ass castles to midwives. I was like, oh, snap. You know what? She's gonna get some revenge on your ass, and I'm gonna laugh. I know.
Ronnie Caram
I'm like, you are a loser. You should never have done that. You give her a castle. At the very least, give her the castle and take it back or whatever.
Ben Mandelker
But, like, who wants. Well, anyway, I mean, I get that it's, like, the center of everything and supposedly the strongest castle that was burned years ago. By the same. By the same. Who burns it today? Vegar.
Ronnie Caram
Well, it does have, like, a really good martini piano bar with show tunes late at night. Thanks, Simon Strong.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, thank you, Simon. He's like, oh, it was my idea. It was my late wife's.
Ronnie Caram
Huh?
Ben Mandelker
Wink, wink.
Ronnie Caram
No, but for real, though, like, just tell her you'll give her the castle. I mean, like, since when are you above lying? At the very least. But also, she kind of deserves it. I think I would give it to her. I think that Rhaenyra would have given it to her. But Damon, this is his thing. He's a dick. And you're right.
Ben Mandelker
And why not just say, I'll talk to her. Why you got to be like, oh, you're a woman. You don't even have a husband. Yeah, you'll never amount to anything. I mean, what a idiot. This woman just did you a lot Sir.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, a lot.
Ben Mandelker
I'm. Don't at least fake it and be, like, a witch, you know, we'll call you. But no, he's like, you're a girl. Girls are grass. And she's like, oh, wow. So a midwife is a son. That's. You think I'm just a midwife? And he's like, all right, well, I'll talk to her. Perhaps there's, like, some other reward she makes. Send your, like, another reward. You go home, demon. And don't come back here. And remember what I told you. There are beginnings to endings and endings of things that begin when endings begin. Of things.
Ronnie Caram
This is gonna mess up everything. I just want to say this right now. Like, just when the entire plan is gonna fall into place, this is gonna everything up. She's gonna. Because by the end of the episode, she's now crossed paths with Amond. She's gonna now become allied with Amen. She's gonna help him out. Like, I'm just. I'm, like, already so mad. It's like, this is such a small scene, but I feel like this is gonna, like, like, impact every single thing in the show.
Ben Mandelker
Small resentments, tiny resentments built up into horse.
Ronnie Caram
Okay, well, guess what? Guess what. Allan's still looking for Corus. Lord Corus. And BA And Moon Dancer are also around. And BA Is like, many before have left my grandson for dead, and they were all mistaken. We will find him. So then he pops a cork off a bottle and takes a drink. I wonder if. Was that the.
Ben Mandelker
Like, I'm a drunk now because I drank once with dad and I'm very depressed.
Ronnie Caram
I was gonna ask about the same bottle of that.
Ben Mandelker
It was just, everything's destroyed, but he got a bottle of booze off. I mean, that's pretty rich for somebody who didn't drink five minutes ago. But she has the conversation. He's clearly distraught, and so she has a conversation with him. She's like, ah, listen, I know that my grandpa, you know, just had you with somebody else and pretended you didn't exist, but he's, like a good guy. Beneath it all, like, he's pretty. I mean, you know, he's a jerk, but he's also fun, so forgive him. We're family. And then it becomes this really nice family scene because Alan finds Corliss on his. Or he's riding his dragon and he finds Corliss. He's like, oh, it's me. I've somehow landed kind of on a rock. So they all come back together as a little Family, right?
Ronnie Caram
So then we go to Aegon and Larys. So they're still in their carriage now they're being transported to I guess the queen or something. Because they were. They had that whole issue last week. Yeah, exactly. So. So hot Laris. Now he's like, well, you seem to be in less pain, which is probably because you as an actor said do. How much longer do I have to pretend to be in pain on this TV show? It's really annoying for me to play this. And so Aegon's like, no, I'm not. I'm not.
Ben Mandelker
Not.
Ronnie Caram
I'm not. He's like, well, you no longer ask for milk of the puppy. And he's like, that's because I'm not speaking to you. I'm mad. And Larry's like, that's right, you're still furious that I saved your life. And exposition that they're doing it sounds like you betrayed my identity to our captors. He's like, well, who you needlessly antagonize. Don't forget America.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, listen, I didn't rat you out. I was just trying to keep us alive. This is a Game of Thrones show. Something's going to happen and we're going to be able to escape. Just at least you didn't lose your head and stop screaming at people with swords in their hands, you dumbass. And so sure enough, people attack the carriage and just open the door and they're like, oh hey. Oh Jesus, look who's in there. God, did he get hot. Hey. Anyone? Where is Laris? Getting his work done. He's suddenly a hottie and then whoever opens the door just gets shot down. And then Aegon comes out and grabs the arrow right from him. Which by way is hilarious, cuz there's also a sword on the ground. But he's like, give me that arrow,
Ronnie Caram
I'm going to kill people.
Ben Mandelker
He's like stabbing people with the arrow. There's a sword right there. I know.
Ronnie Caram
So there's all sorts of fighting and Laris is like that peacock. Thailand. Lannister has actually convinced the Triarchy to come into it against Ranira, though it doesn't seem to have gone very well. It seems our journey to Dragonstone will be somewhat delayed. It's actually so funny cuz when I watched the scene I just thought it was a standard scene of like some stuff happening. But when you read back the dialogue, it's so basic. Well, it seems like Tylin Lannister told the Triarchy to come after Us, right when we were going to Rhaenyra, but now we will change course and we will do something else.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I need it. That's for sure. That's for people like me. It's like, here is what is happening. Ronnie, are you paying attention? And I'm, like, scrolling through Reddit. I'm like, yes, I'm. I'm here. What are you talking. Yep, I. I'm definitely here. Thailand. Yeah, I'm on it. So they escape again. But he's like. Aegon's like, we're going to Rooks Rest, God damn it. And he's like, no, we would be wise to avoid that place. We could be captured again. He's like, oh, really? Well, Cole has a garrison, so we're going to Cole. He's the hottest person on the show, and I hear he's in the Needle Point, so we're going over. He is in his craft era. Yeah, we're going to Cole. And both of them just leave the horse and the buggy thing behind. I mean, I know it was your prison, but it's still faster than walking. Get the in there. What are you doing?
Ronnie Caram
Didn't make any sense. Laris was like, fine, we will go to Cole, but only if we can convince him to give up that ridiculous Caesar haircut. I can do it. I'm the king. So now we go to now the whole family. Now the family's on the beach. This is Alan Adidim. There is there as well. Bela Corliss. They're standing. We see that high tide is just, like, smoky, and it's destroyed and done. And Corliss is like, if this be victory, I hope I never see another Alan. I have nothing to give you now but my name. And Alan's like, and yet I count that of more worth than a mountain of gold. And Adam's looking at him like, what the fuck is wrong with you? We want some gold too. Hey, listen, of course you're.
Ben Mandelker
You're getting more than just the name. You finally get to grow out your hair, and that is a huge thing for a bald man who's, like, bald by choice when they don't have to be bald, you know, like he's been doing. He's been bald to, like, hide his identity. And he's gonna get to grow his hair for the first time. And as someone who doesn't grow hair anymore, I just find it beautiful, you know?
Ronnie Caram
It is.
Ben Mandelker
Fuck the name. You got a hair, you get hair. You got hair. You won the whole thing. Just roll the credit credits.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, Corliss, I think really wants that hair to grow in because you know, he still like pays Adam dust. He like looks over. He's like. He looks at Alan, he's like, you get to carry on my name. And then he looks to Adam like, I don't know who you are. He still won't even address Adam. And I wonder if it's because Adam does not have like the. The. The white hair of a. Of Targaryen blood. Right. Did we know that?
Ben Mandelker
I forget the lore on with. I think cuz he just fought with. With Adam, you know, and like kind of saved his life. But then again, wasn't that the whole thing though?
Ronnie Caram
That he always ignores Adam?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but I mean then the other son saved his life too because he was like on a rock. So. Yeah, I don't know. But hey, he gets enough. He's already got a dragon.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, he does have a dragon. But what's the. I forget the lore on Adam is. Is he not Corlys's actual blood child? Because he. He has black hair.
Ben Mandelker
Right?
Ronnie Caram
Right.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Caram
Is it like so do Rain's kids.
Ben Mandelker
I think they same mother at these brothers.
Ronnie Caram
But is it that. Is it that. Was there a wife before Rhys and like did she cheat on Corliss? And is that why Corliss doesn't like Adam? Because the wife clearly had don't things.
Ben Mandelker
Because I don't know. I'm not prepared for that.
Ronnie Caram
I'm just going on here.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I hate when you ask me questions about this because I do not know,
Ronnie Caram
because you said you just watched the whole thing and I'm like, I thought maybe this was in it.
Ben Mandelker
Jesus Christ. It doesn't give you all of that. But someone in the audience, he. I think that these were bastard children, you know, which I would never use today. But in the show lore I think they're master children.
Ronnie Caram
But he seems to be particularly gruff about Adam. Like the thing is. This is. I don't know. You know what? You're right. I'll just wait and see what happens on the hair front. Let's see if he grows out his hair and it's. It's if it's blonde or not.
Ben Mandelker
It is blonde because they show him shaving his. His blonde hair. Oh, right. That's why he's bald. They show him purposely shaving it and then his brother's like, you don't have to shave it. You should grow out your hair. And he's like, no, I cannot. I could never. I could never do it until I'm an alcoholic. So then we go back to the Red Keep, King's Landing, and Alicent is standing there watching Vhagar fly away because she's just talked to her son after he forced a make out sesh on her to go to Harrenhal. So finally her plan has worked. Vhagar is flying away and she wastes no time. I mean, you can still see the wings on the horizon. She's like, all right, let's get this done. Yeah, Allison, plan. Let's move it. We're giving everything to a Ranera. Okay, everybody get on board. I'm going to take my best pearls and wear my Oscars gown to try to escape. Okay?
Ronnie Caram
She's like, I'm going into the locker room. This is like when Cameron Diaz did her walkthrough in any given Sunday. So if some people are naked, that's okay. Everyone step down. And by the way, I also want to point out, I looked it up. Adam's hair is black because he inherited the dark hair genetics of his mother, Marilda of Hull. So we knew that, we knew that. We knew that. We knew about Marilda. And while he possesses Valyrian blood, Valyrian silver hair is not always a guaranteed trait, especially when mixed with the dominant dark haired genes of non Valyrian parents. So it was, it just. It just didn't work out. Out with the bl. With the, with the silver hair for him. So the genetic lottery just failed.
Ben Mandelker
There you go. So she, this is where she goes. Yeah, into the locker room and we see lots of wieners. And she wants to speak with Commander Logan, who's very cute and they've got some chemistry. And she's like, listen, sorry for intruding on the gold cocks cloaks. God, I feel like. Feel like Trump at a beauty pageant. I shouldn't be here, but I really needed to talk to you. We're just gonna give everything to Ray Ray. Okay? So just tell everybody to stand down because Rainier is coming. Okay, great talk. The queen said. He's like. The queen said.
Ronnie Caram
But that. Isn't that kind of like. Like a smack of treason to it? She's like. Well, some would say that. Would you say that I'm the queen now? Basically. So get to it. So now Damon and.
Ben Mandelker
Well, her daughter's the queen, so she's like. I know.
Ronnie Caram
She's like. She's listening to her. Yeah. She's like, I'm, I'm. I'm like, I'm a queen, not the queen, which is what she says later. So Then Damon and like, tell me about it. It's the bird. I'm with you, girl. So Damon and Craxes arrive at Dragonstone and he, Ulf and Hugh are there. So Ulf is like the rogue prince himself.
Ben Mandelker
Damon's like, looky, looky, walks in, go to see you. Damon's just like, smacks him across the face. Finally. Man ul has needed that.
Ronnie Caram
I know. Damon's like, the queen wished you to attack or pursue Vegar or am I mistaken? And he was like, aond didn't come and you waited two days only before resigning your mission. And Elvis like, but Adam left two. He's like, yes, we thought. We thought there might be some misunderstanding.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. He's like, yeah, you don't get to pick the time. And two days in our time is nothing, okay? Jesus Christ. It takes five to get a damn message back and forth. If you're given a post day at the post. And he's like, oh, there's something in those woods though. I'm telling you. We heard all kinds of sounds, voices and stuff. He's like, out shout Maxim. He's like, jesus Christ, you all suck, okay? You're terrible at this. I can't believe that people we just picked out a poured them and threw on dragons. Don't know how to do this. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Ronnie Caram
You don't understand. A lady showed up with a tower of profiteroles and said this was her showstopper. And we said, what are you talking about? And then she disappeared. Okay, enough. You have aired all three of you and your era will call us cost us dearly. I left a garrison there and a household. So.
Ben Mandelker
So he's like, where's the other guy? And like, oh, he went to save his dad. So he's going with the lady Bayla back to the gullet. So then Damon is like, I'm out of here. And he was like, should we go back to Heron hall or. Damon gives them no orders. So it's not going to end well for these guys. And poor Hugh, because you seems to have it together. But Olf Mantle's gonna do something stupid. Wolf is gonna do something really stupid with that dragon.
Ronnie Caram
He really will. Everyone's gonna do something stupid. That's what's so stressful for me about this show is how like the. The path forward is always seems simple, but, you know, idiocy always ruins everything. So now Damon goes to see Ray Ray, and Missouri, of course, is standing outside the door and she's like, she has not wished to be Seen since Jay. He's like oh, whatever. And meanwhile the smith in the sot allow aim in one eye to fly through their fingers. And she's like, she is in grief. Do you question her methods?
Ben Mandelker
It's like I questioned their methods. And your methods. I left you here a prisoner. She's like haha. Well, I'm very tricky. So you knew that. It's like, how did you wriggle your way towards the crown? Like an eel. And she's like whatever. I have the queen's trust. You don't abandoner. Okay? Who probably was cheating someplace with somebody. Don't forget we met in whorehouse. Okay?
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Probably have a throuble if you really think about it. Just think about it. Putting it out there. So he's like, what is between us is nothing of your concern. What game are you playing? Retribution for insults real or imagined. Do you call yourself here in order to strike at me? She's like, oh God. God. It's like not everything is about you. Damon Eamond is uncounted for then, huh?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it's like not everything's about you. So you didn't do your one job of getting a mint. Oh, okay, I'll sit here and feel guilty about something. So they sit together. Because they both like one upped each other. And so Damon's like, but seriously though, is she crazy? Has she lost her mind? Yes or no? Because she's been through a lot. And she's like no, I've, I. I'm serving her, you know. And he says, well, she staked a lot on the word of Allison. She's. She says well, I wasn't there for that conversation, but what are you going to do? They were best friends. She trusts her. So fingers crossed.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, but Damon does not trust her either. So then Maester Gerardi walks in. Gerardi and he's like, begging your pardon, my prince. It seems that Veigar has been cited leaving King's Landing, flying in the direction of the Riverlands. I wouldn't inform the queen, but you know, cuckoo for crazy puffs. So then Damon's like okay, fine. So over at King's Landing, Allison is now, you know, going through the Red Keep and rich Sir Ricard Thorne is like, yo Grace, the atmosphere is fraught. I think it's best you do not stray again from my charge.
Ben Mandelker
So this is her babysitter guy. So now Damon's like, oh, okay. So Allison I guess was telling the truth. Cuz Veigar is gone. Let's go get him. And meanwhile Allison's babysitter is like, stay by me.
Ronnie Caram
You are a woman.
Ben Mandelker
And she's like, yeah, I need to speak with Sir Soren. He's like, I could message him. She's like, yeah, just make sure the small council chamber is secure. Okay, I'm gonna call a meeting. He's like, you're calling a meeting, you're a woman. She's like, shut the up, you old bastard. Get everybody together.
Ronnie Caram
Okay, to be a 12 step meeting. Honestly, it's just. We just need to go through some things. So then over Dragonstone, Damon, like, he checks in on Raniera. She's been sleeping in bed. Bed. And because she's mourning. And he's kind of like, hey, I know it's bad timing, but I think we can get that thrown now. So. Yeah, so basically she tells him about this battle and she says there was another dragon, Sheep Stealer that Bayless has. The dragon's name was Sheep Sealer. And Damon's like, a wild dragon, but he had a rider. That's impossible. A wild dragon cannot ever be tamed.
Ben Mandelker
And she's like, yeah, yeah, well, someone attacked Moon Dancer and. And killed Jace. So who was that then? And he is. He's like, all right, let's go got. He's like, but first we have more pressing business. And she's like, no. And he's like, veigar's left King's Landing, so let's go to it. And she's like, is it even worth it? Like, you know, both my sons are dead for me to sit on this throne, you know, like, but would you have them die in vague. And she's like, decent point. Speak to me. And Valerian. So he does. And he's like, listen, I was tripping balls with a witch and I don't even know how old she is, but the woman can make donut holes. But there are no donuts. How does that even happen? Okay. And I saw some shit. Okay. And I saw the Song of Ice and Fire that you talked about. Turns out it's true. I saw it. I saw this lady in a desert with three dragons. So this is more than us. It's the zombies. Think of the zombies. She's like, oh, God. All right.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, God. Congratulations. You did ayahuasca. Like every other middle aged guy looking for spiritual enlightenment. I want to go back to sleep. He's like, no, no, no.
Ben Mandelker
Like, as long as we don't call that therapy again.
Ronnie Caram
It's like, no, no, listen. I would like to set a boundary, and my boundary is around King's Landing specifically. Come on. If it were true, what would you do? So now we go back to King's Land, and Allison's in her room, and Lord Jasper appears. I don't think we saw him at all last week. He just sort of arrives. I was like. I was like, this guy looks familiar. I know he's on the small council. I don't remember how I felt about him. But he comes in and he's real huffy, this guy.
Ben Mandelker
This come. This guy comes in. So rapey. He's got rape all over him. Oh, he's so disgusting. I hate this guy. So he comes in, he's like, oh, look at you. What an industrious little creature you are. Hither and thither. So much to do. Oh, I've been told you're gonna leave the castle.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, but before you do, I've also
Ben Mandelker
been told that you're banging Kristen, so I'm gonna get a little piece of that. And then tries to rape the. The queen. What the hell?
Ronnie Caram
Very George Costanza in Pretty Woman, you know? And also, by the way, you can never say the phrase hither and thither without being a total creep. Anyone who ever says hither and thither is always up. Terrible things.
Ben Mandelker
You miss Kristen Banger. Hither and thither. Also, I'm kind of sick of them doing like this to Allison, For Christ's sake. Allison is constantly like, leave. Leave her alone. Jesus.
Ronnie Caram
I feel like every scene when she's in that room, like, something bad happens to her.
Ben Mandelker
So they're all about sexual humiliation for the character of Allison. I say justice for Allison. Jesus.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, I. I feel bad for Allison at this point. Like, she made some mistakes along the way, and. But I think it's like she's trying to do better. So he's. He's basically. He basically grabs her. He has her, like, pinned down. He's, like, gonna make it look like he's, like, arresting her almost, but then he's, like, pulling down her. Her pants. And then thank God. Or a while walked in. We love Orwell. He's the. The. What's it called? The maester. And so he comes in and he's like, I order this man under arrest. And, you know, he saves the day. Thank God. I don't know how he did it, but he did it.
Ben Mandelker
And he's like, but wait, this woman is committing treason. Put her in jail. And he's like, I just saw you try to rape her, so put him in jail. So they.
Ronnie Caram
He's like you think I give a about committing her committing treason when Amon just put like a sword against my neck last episode and tried to kill me. You think I'm going to give one about someone being disloyal to that one eyed while?
Ben Mandelker
Couple of weeks, that's for sure. Jesus. This guy can't. No way.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Like yeah. Her own sworn protectors caution me oh what a shocker if that babysitter traitor ran right and tattletailed. So tattletailed about treason I mean. So then they take him away and he's like I'm the master of the law.
Ronnie Caram
Congratulations.
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Ronnie Caram
so over in Dragonstone, Lord Bartimos, Celtigar Meister Gerardus and Rhaenyra and Daemon, they're all getting ready and so Rhaenyra is gonna, she's gonna go to Lord, she go to King's Landing now this is gonna be the big moment and they're gonna seize it. Everything's open. Nothing could go wrong. And this is where my anxiety started to rise. I was like it's never this easy easy on Game of Thrones. One doesn't just like fly into King's Landing and take the throne. So something's gonna go terribly awry. And I was just trying to at this point now my radar is like my, my, my antennas are up and I'm trying to see where the catastrophe is gonna to be.
Ben Mandelker
Yes. And of course the balls on these guys. She's like, all right, I'm flying to Kings Landing to But no, you con.
Ronnie Caram
You're a woman.
Ben Mandelker
You're crazy.
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Ben Mandelker
And Damon's like, she's the queen. Shut the up. I just wanted Damon walking around slapping everybody in this episode.
Ronnie Caram
You know, he does a good job. Why does she have such a shitty, shitty council at all? It's like two years now in a row. They just are always like, but you can't. You're a woman. What are you doing? Like, at some point she's going to have to clean your house because they've been terrible.
Ben Mandelker
They also cut off some heads. And so she's like, nope, I'm flying with my husband and both my new dragons as well. So bye. And like. But you can't enter the castle on your own.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, what are you doing?
Ben Mandelker
You won't. You won't even have the Valyrian host to defend you. And Damon's like, she has me and I'm impossibly blonde.
Ronnie Caram
Let's go. So they get on their dragons.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. They're like, it's trapped. She's like, I don't even care at this point. Bye. So she gets on the dragon and this. She's. They pass Mysaria. And she's like, you will need this, I think. I hope you will send for me. Remember which one of us has been faithful. Damon, you stupid cheater.
Ronnie Caram
She gets the crap down. She's like, good. Now she gives up on Love island.
Ben Mandelker
So they can ask the cards don't battles on your side.
Ronnie Caram
Here's your AAA card in case there's a breakdown on the way. So they get on the dragons and Damon's like, much has changed since I was away. You've taken a new advisor. And she's like, she's done much for me. Much. Literally, like French fries, if you know mean.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, oh, please, I don't need your approval. He's like, got a little. Shut up, Damon. Get on the dragons. All right.
Ronnie Caram
So they head off on the. On their road trip, flying over the oceans, heading to King's Landing. And now we're in King's Landing and Helena, of course, is picking flowers. Cuz what else do you do when you're Helena? She's picking flowers and I know.
Ben Mandelker
I love one. She's picking a flower and she sees a caterpillar. And she's like, well, that's strange. It's not the season
Ronnie Caram
caterpillar. Don't tell me when it's not my season.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but Helen is psychic, so I'm always like, what does that mean? It's not the season.
Ronnie Caram
Caterpillar. Well, if. Does that mean it's a sign of spring? And, like, if winter is coming, we're in spring. Oh, that's Jesus.
Ben Mandelker
Or the. Well, spring. But winters before spring. Spring.
Ronnie Caram
No, but meaning, like, this is in the calendar. We're still at the spring of our timeline. We still have to go through summer and fall. Or it's just a caterpillar.
Ben Mandelker
Or change. Change is coming early because, you know, caterpillars turn into butterflies. And then she's writing in a book, or she's got, like, her diary there or something, and it's a picture of a butterfly.
Ronnie Caram
I just want the caterpillar to look at her and say, so I'm out of season. So what? Is there ever a season to be fabulous? Suddenly it's not caterpillar season anymore. I thought it was hot caterpillar summer in here.
Ben Mandelker
So Allison's like, ray Ray's coming, so we need to go. She's like, well, there would be a battle. You're the psychic. What do you want from me? Ask the caterpillar. And she's like, listen, we're gonna allow her to come, and then we're gonna leave. And she's like, wait, you've spoken to Ray Ray? And she's like, yes, and my stupid babysitter betrayed me about it, so let's move our asses, okay? And she's like, but everyone's go, think you crazy. And she's like, well, they have to listen to you because you're the queen. So let's go.
Ronnie Caram
You're. You're the crazier one of the two of us. Okay? Let's get. Let's get it going. Jeff Daniels. So Helena's like, but you. But, but, but, but, but. And he says, okay, look, I could no longer say, what's going on? But, Helena, you told me not many days ago that you were happier before you were queen. Words that pierced me like a spear. And I think now not of what you may disagree, but might make you happy. You, I may yet redeem. Don't you just want to do something nice? And she was like, I think I'd like some chickens. See? Think about the chickens. If I had known, I just would have led with the chickens.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, oh, my God, I want some chickens. That's all I want. Well, here's what you guys are gonna do. Put on your nicest clothes to blend in with the poor people. What are they wearing? You guys, could you maybe. I mean, you've thought this out. Steal Some steal some maid's clothes. What are you doing?
Ronnie Caram
They've. They've literally been able to make everything in this in King's Landing. The, like, the most modern anti dragon warfare, magic potions, everything that you could dream of. The one thing they can't do is a wig. It's like, can we get a wig or some hair dye up in here?
Ben Mandelker
I mean, and just her gown, she's wearing that beautiful blue, like, gown and beautiful flowing robe over it, like, we see you. Okay. I don't think the color blue even exists for anybody else in that town. Come on.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. So they. Then. Then they're walking up, they go to some guards, and basically the guards are, like, getting ready to, like, shoot down some dragons should they come, which they are. So Allison's like, you ought to stand down your station, Sir Frederick with a yellow with a Y. Who's Frederick with a Y? Am I right? Anyway, this is at the command of Queen Helaena.
Ben Mandelker
And he's like, oh, I don't know about that. I was told to keep on dragon duty. She's like, listen to me, you fucker. Your orders are rescinded. And he's like, but she goes, your queen is your authority now. And Helena just goes, yes, and I will not have any beast harmed.
Ronnie Caram
And then she's like, laughing, like.
Ben Mandelker
And they're like, okay, okay, got it. Damn it. Damn it. Helene and her veganism.
Ronnie Caram
Now, listen. Rhaenyra Targaryen approaches Sir Frederick without an eye. She comes with Prince Damon and more besides. The king has abdicated. The prince regent himself has fled the city. Will you fight and be burned and King's Landing along with you? Or will you suffer her to enter and hope for peace? He's like, well, I guess. I guess peace, fine.
Ben Mandelker
And Helena's like, her sons were always kind. Remember, I love Elena. Please do not hurt Helena. Whatever happens, kill everybody else. I literally don't care. I just want to see Helena be okay. So then we go to Gawain and Kristen. Seeing the dragonfly overhead, they see Veigar. So they're like, Kristen's like, blowing off his painting official.
Ronnie Caram
He's like, just in time. It's ready. They're all excited to go to Heron hall, as if they're gonna go there and, like, do some massive battle. But, like, the dragon, like, then goes to. Basically the. The dragon goes to Heron hall and just, like, destroys every single person we saw earlier this episode. Everyone who was, like, singing that stupid song. They're dead now. So Zaver burns everyone down. And then like lands on Harenhal. I'm like, like, did you want to make this your new home? Because your dragon's destroying half of it just by sitting there. Like the dragon like lands, knocks over five walls, then starts burning everyone up inside. I mean, thank God this place is up to fire code because you would think it would be up all in flames. But luckily it's made of stone and everything is. The structure still stands.
Ben Mandelker
God, can Harrenhal take any more? Jesus, this poor place. I mean, just the real estate alone. I was like, come on, is there any other way to do this? Heron hall has been through so much. You've had all these people trying to rest. You've had Alice trying to fight for it back. And then am just comes in there and that damn dragon burns everybody that we've been watching for like three seasons. Like we're all going to come together there and immediately Vegar is just like, you're all dead. Oh, and by the way, now I'm also going to do some structural damage and knock down columns with my head.
Ronnie Caram
It's like, it's like spending two years closing a deal to buy a house. And then when you show up, you drive your U haul right into the garage like, like into the Smallville living room. It's like.
Ben Mandelker
Or the husband, someone's husband. Like, oh, we're just gonna make this a big. That is a load bearing column. You can't just knock out the wall. Whole thing starts falling in Vegar, seriously, Veigar has done this twice to the same house.
Ronnie Caram
This because of a nuisance. And the truth is that Veigar, I will never forgive this. Veigar belongs to random Reyna. Let's never forget belongs to Reyna, not Aemond. That's probably why Reyna was able to get sheep sealer because Reyna has like big dragon energy that like so she was like owed a big dragon. So anyway, he ain gets off the dragon and then goes walking into the dining hall where Sir Simon's just sitting there with his sons as usual. They're like just about to begin.
Ben Mandelker
Before we go any further. I love his outfit. It is so good. It's like black matte armor. I mean it's so good. We were talking about Batman earlier in something. Oh, and below deck. This kind of is Batman. Game of Thrones. This outfit was great. I loved it very sleep.
Ronnie Caram
So he goes in and so Sir Simon's sitting there and Aemond is like, draw your sword. And Simon's like, your grace. I have no if you look at me. I'm the Dom DeLuise of Westeros. Do I really look like I'm gonna be a threat to you right now? He's like, then get a sword. I don't care.
Ben Mandelker
Can I finish a meal in this place? Like, literally, I'm sitting down to eat again. This is exactly what Damon did. I just want to finish a meal. And he's like, no, you will not finish. You come fight me like a man. I guess because he didn't want it, just kill somebody who wasn't armed. But it's not like there's witnesses anyway because you're going to kill everybody. So he tries to talk him. He like, tries to sweet talk him and he's like, well, I don't know.
Ronnie Caram
I don't oppose you.
Ben Mandelker
I've not wielded a blade. One thing I do wield, it's a trouble clef. Do you have any songs that you'd like to sing?
Ronnie Caram
Are you familiar with falsettos? And so he's like, look, there's nothing at us. He's like, the army has decamped. There's nothing to stop you. And then Aan just stabs him. Which of course we knew Aon was going to do. I was like, you can't kill Sir Simon. He was a sweetheart.
Ben Mandelker
No, you Sir Simon. It was a. It was a bummer. But he shouldn't have come close and touched Aon either. Cuz when he put his hand on Aan's shoulder, I was like, oh no. And then sure enough, personal space and guts him.
Ronnie Caram
Lay hands on someone, you can't touch them.
Ben Mandelker
And then the sons are there too. So like dad, oh my God, show dad tunes are officially dead. And then he just kills them all too. But meanwhile he slashes one in the throat, he stabs another one, but one of them stabs him in the side. And he doesn't even notice because he's such a man.
Ronnie Caram
And you know what's funny? I didn't notice either. So what happens is that Aond then Alice is watching, of course, because she. She loves this. And Eamon sees Alice and he like, basically collapses. Was like right at her feet. But what was funny is that because I didn't actually see that he was stabbed. I thought that Alice was like using her powers to like subdue him and kill him. And I was like, yes, Alice, go. And then afterwards when I was like reading, it was like, oh, well. And Eamon got stabbed and he. And he fell to her feet. I was like, oh, I don't know how I missed that.
Ben Mandelker
Sons came up and stabbed him.
Ronnie Caram
I don't know.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, why am I dancing? No, he got stabbed.
Ronnie Caram
And of all the people to get for to take down Amond would be some rando eating dinner with Sir Simon.
Ben Mandelker
Yes, exactly. But he's like, help me. So she's looking at him like, oh, God, another one.
Ronnie Caram
But she will.
Ben Mandelker
She's going to put him through some.
Ronnie Caram
She's going to nurse him back, you know? You know, he has weird mommy issues, so he's going to fall in love with her. And he will promise. He will, I think, actually make a weird promise. Be like, I will get Heron hall for you. She'll nurse it now.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, it's like fire damaged. I don't want hair. Okay. I want her. She has a vision for it and an HGTV designer. Okay.
Ronnie Caram
Well, she. I think she actually probably would do great things with Heron Hall. She has an idea. She probably wants to make it open concept, like mid mod look, you know,
Ben Mandelker
just like the only room left in the house is the one they're in right now.
Ronnie Caram
But she can't ever execute her vision because these guys are in there just trying to put in Barca loungers and. And, you know, like, the cups in the thing.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, the cups in the chair.
Ronnie Caram
Oh, she's like. She's like, I don't. I don't want something retail. They're like, but it's from ikea. She's like, I. I don't want IKEA on Heron hall anymore. I want something nice. I want West Elm.
Ben Mandelker
I want. Guessing. I'm guessing we're gonna see a again, because he's not gonna go out like that. Alice isn't just gonna, you know, she'll put him through some good. You know, what do you call it when you see things? Hallucinations and get her way. So then we go to King's Landing and the dragons are coming, and everyone's like, oh, my God, it's dragons. God. I know I've said this about, like, every character that we've come across today, but can these people catch a break either? My God, this is the least peaceful town I've ever seen. Like, at some point, you just got to be like, listen, it's nice being close to restaurants, but peace is more important. I mean, Jesus.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. I mean, King's Landing really is a dump. I have to say that. Like, the people there are all awful. They're so annoying. Like, it's really not always being starved.
Ben Mandelker
And I mean, like, you think you're living in the capital, it should be nice. But Jesus.
Ronnie Caram
Did you see Elf's wife?
Ben Mandelker
They're being.
Ronnie Caram
I feel like Ulf's wife made a cameo in there. Like.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, when the dragon was in there. Yeah, she saw him riding right overhead. She's like a. Jeez, I guess I'll go inside this. She's wife Ul.
Ronnie Caram
I thought it was Ul was his wife. Oh, you're right.
Ben Mandelker
Ul just look alike.
Ronnie Caram
That's right, they look alike. And they're. They're both from the. That's right. Ul was just like a. Like a bar fly and Hugh had the wife. Sorry.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I'm sorry. And then we also saw the brothel lady that Aon banged, like the mommy complex lady. She's like, well, holy crap, you can't even do your laundry anymore without damn dragons coming in.
Ronnie Caram
I think I saw Bethany Frankel in there. It's like, what? So it's like a dragon. Like, we're just gonna look at dragons now?
Ben Mandelker
It's a reckoning.
Ronnie Caram
It's everyone. So they land also, by the way, a bit indelicately some. There's also some structural damage that happens here. I just think that the dragons could like learn a little bit to have like a softer landing. They're very gentle when they let people off their backs. But when they land on of structure, they just like don't even care.
Ben Mandelker
Well, especially in like their home turf. Like you would think they'd make roofs stronger for dragons to land on. Cuz you're right. They land as like, okay, well, there went a decade of work.
Ronnie Caram
I know. Like, can we get like a helipad in here for these dragons?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it's like successful. So they come in, they land in the backyard and they jump off their dry Raina, Rainier and Damon jump off and draw their swords. And people, all these kneel because, you know, they tell them, you better kneel and drop your swords or die. And so they kneel and Rainier is like, wow. Alicent did as she promised. And they're like, well, we better try it inside first. So Rainier is like, do not be afraid. I've come to make things right. Ribey's home, baby. We're back. Right?
Ronnie Caram
So they enter and then five guards come up. Do you. These poor actors who thought they were going to have a larger role in this show, they're like, okay, I'm coming. And they're dead. So then they go through it. It was very video gamey at this part, like, like escorting Ray Ray and like, you Know, with your sword and, like, little swarms of, like, villains would come out, and you have to kill them and move on to the next room and another swarm. And so Damon's like, who else dares rise against us in our house? And then they go through. They get to the throne room. Room, and then, you know, Ray Ray starts to go towards the throne. But then here comes Sir Ricard again, and he has brought out, like, a bunch of his guards. And he is like, I don't think so.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, he's like, I would kill you. But then the Gold Cloaks come in, and the Gold Cloaks are like, yeah, we were made by Damon. And we love Damon. Damon, remember how many, many things we up together back in the day? That was so fun. Remember when we were the cops that were, like, beating people and, like, getting.
Ronnie Caram
20 years ago. That was 20 years ago. Damon got me a free Starbucks. And I will always remember it.
Ben Mandelker
Dirty cops stay together.
Ronnie Caram
They do.
Ben Mandelker
They love each other. They stick together. So they come in, and the Gold Cloaks come to save the day. So now let's see Sir Luther. Yeah. Sir Luther is the one who's like, we love Damon. Yay day. So Sir Rickard is like, the Prince region will not stand for this, nor will the hand. I'll get all of you. You're kind of outnumbered. Okay.
Ronnie Caram
Dead. You lost. Dead. Dead. Dead. So now. Now they're like, okay. Ray Ray is like, okay, well, this is great, but bring me Aegon the usurper. So they go to get Aegon, but little do they realize that Hot Laris took him away a long time ago, actually. And Oral's like, I. I don't. I don't. I don't know where he is. I. I don't know. Please don't kill me. I'm really. People keep trying to kill me, and I just please trust. I don't know where he is. Please, please, please, please, please.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, let's almost kill Orwell again. That he hasn't been through enough. So he's like, I'm a maester. What are you killing me? I'm just. I'm stuck. Wherever the king is, is whoever the king is, like, leave me alone.
Ronnie Caram
And, like, pledge fealty to Viserys Rifle Air, Queen of blood by blood and oath. God, please just let me go. Please.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, and Damon's like, well, if Aegon's fled, then we're still going to have to take heads. And, you know, I don't really want to take down a maester, but I got to get Ahead, it's got. It's kind of in the thing. He's like, kill me if you must, but I can offer you another who might give you better satisfaction.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
So now, would you rather have a super rapey person?
Ronnie Caram
Because I know just the guy. Meanwhile, down in, like, amongst the small folk, Allison and Helena are trying to escape, which is something they should have done maybe, like, just a little bit sooner. And so they're just like, walking around, but the guards are. The guards are like, you know, closing in, you know, and they. They don't know where they're going to be able to escape, and their options are limited. And so we go back, back to Damon. He's in the dungeons. He's going to get. He's going to go get Jasper Wild. But then. Then sir Jasper is like, oh, really? You're going to do this? This is her doing. Conniving little. He's like, whatever. Keep on talking and I'll relieve you of your. Before your head just for the fun of it. But then this old guy comes up and he's like, by the way, I have a gift for you from Lord Lara. Strong.
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Ben Mandelker
Well, he says, a gift for you if you ever returned. Lord Lara. Strong. Damn. Laris. Laris. Did Laris just win this whole show? Just give everything to Laris? I mean, Laris is pretty good to leave.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, but he got. But, like, he took aim. He took what's his. His face. Aegon, out. And so now this has to continue. So he kind of didn't win. He's prolonged.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, because he. Aegon, would have been killed if he had stayed there. There.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. Well, either way, Damon goes so far.
Ben Mandelker
He even left a gift, like all that time in the past. And he goes. Damon goes into the cell, puts his fire into the cell to see who it is, and just starts laughing. And I just was like, oh, no. Oh, you knew it was going to be Otto because they showed, end of the last episode, Otto in a jail with fire coming on his face, being like, yes.
Ronnie Caram
So we knew once, once I saw that it wasn't like a trap or like some monster. Once I heard, like, the heavy breathing in that cell, I was like, oh, it's Otto. It's Otto Hightower. And I was excited. I was like, yes, Otto is back. Let's see what happens with Otto. I'm excited for a lengthy storyline with Otto.
Ben Mandelker
They really kept Otto on the back for a while, only to bring him back for something really good.
Ronnie Caram
Was there, like, a contract negotiation that didn't work out? Like, why did you do that to us? So, basically, the guards bring in Serge Jasper to the. To the. To the throne room. And, you know, Ray Ray's like, you know, asking, like, who of your council still left alive? But then Damon's like, by the way, the rats in the black cells have grown on common big. And here comes Otto Hightower. So Otto went missing about midway through last season, early to midway through last season. And then the last time we saw him was just a glimpse of him in the season finale where he was in the jail cell, as you just mentioned, sort of hinting that, like, ooh, get ready for next season, because there's gonna be some big auto that's gonna happen.
Ben Mandelker
And, yeah, he got fired by agents and kicked out, so we just assumed he ran away somewhere. But, nope, Laris caught him and put him. Him under the Red Keep. So Otto just comes in and looks around. He's like, I assume everybody's dead. Well, me, okay, so Damon's like, well, Aegon's fled, but this guy can stand in this place? And he's like, just get it over with, for Christ's sake. I mean, it's better than jail, you know? Just kill me already. So Ray Ray Ray has to behead him. And she's like, I don't. I. I don't want to behead somebody. What the. Can I just enjoy my chair there? Okay.
Ronnie Caram
I think she should have said, oh,
Ben Mandelker
again, Mama, have a seat.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, she should have said, you know what? I am going to be a benevolent queen. I'm gonna throw him back into jail, which will be far worse than if I actually end his suffering now. But they're like, no, no, you gotta do it. So. So he's like, well, if your father could see what does come to. He would have never imagined. It was like, because of you, by the way. Okay? You dipped in. Like, you're the one who created all this chaos. If your dad. If. If. If, like, Viserys could have just done his own thing. And by the way, Viserys kind of sucked. Let's not be. Let's not sugarcoat this, but, like, there would not be this giant civil war if Otto was not, like, trying to pull all these strings and trying to get Allison into power.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. That's a lot of nerves saying, if your father could see you, you stole her throne, he'd behead you himself, you dick.
Ronnie Caram
So sorry. His eyeballs fell out. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Speaking of, Damon sheaths his sword, and Rainier is like, speak no more. And Damon's just like, you can do this, okay? You're gonna become queen. People, listen, we're talking to a room full of men. They need to see some heads roll. Just do it. You can do it.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
She's like, no, say you can. Like, now it's like, you can do it. So Otto's like, well, at least let him do it, because you're a woman. And I'd rather just be beheaded than hacked him.
Ronnie Caram
Death.
Ben Mandelker
God knows you can't aim. You couldn't even play softball. You even sucked at that. Couldn't even play T ball. We had the ball on a tee for you.
Ronnie Caram
I mean, really, Ray Ray is queen. What's next out of season? Caterpillars? Am I right, everyone? So Otto, he basically is like, fine, I did my best. So Ray Ray's like, thwack. And then we see that his head is actually still in place. And he's like. Was like, oh. And I thought for a moment, I was like, oh, they're doing one of those things where she did a thwack. But isn't killing him to be like, I could have killed you. But actually, it wasn't even that either. She just actually messed up and she just kind of got his upper back.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I mean, it takes some practice. It's like, she's never beheaded anymore before. Jesus Christ. Everyone's like, why wasn't it perfect? God.
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Ben Mandelker
Give her. She needs some practice. Okay.
Ronnie Caram
God, that's better. A whole lot better than when Viserys tried to kill that. That stag once. Remember that? He was like, oh, yeah. God, it's embarrassing.
Ben Mandelker
But she thwacks him. But then she, like, she was thwacking because she kind of wouldn't look, you know? And so he's like. And so she gives it another go and this time focuses, and boom, there goes that head. I'm. I thought that was pretty good. Getting it in two tries, your first time.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah, it was impressive. I was like, a little as a viewer, I was annoyed because I was excited for what complication the return of Otto was going to bring. And the fact that that was actually resolved so quickly and was a bit disappointing and anti climactic for me, especially because also we really had been waiting a year to see what would happen, what would be the. The outcome of his disappearance. So what the outcome is that he loses his. His head in this episode. And then of course, Sir Jasper's like, I would also like to say something. And damn. He just, like slices his head off too.
Ben Mandelker
He's like, tell my lady wife. And his head Goes, fine, tell your wife what, you just tried to rape somebody.
Ronnie Caram
So everyone cheers.
Ben Mandelker
I'll tell you. You're welcome.
Ronnie Caram
Everyone cheers. Just as some guards bring Allison and Helena in. And Allison is looking down and she's like, it's supposed to be a son for a son. Not a son. Like a son and a f. Like, you don't get to do that. My dad also, which I feel like this is gonna be a diplomatic issue. I feel like Allison's gonna be like, I just did all this and you killed my dad. You weren't supposed to kill my dad, by the way. I didn't know my dad was here.
Ben Mandelker
Like, hey, I was just wanting you to murder my son, not my dad. Jesus. And then Allison walks slowly towards the throne, covered in blood. And you see the reflection of her walking up to the throne in the pool of Otto's blood, which was pretty cool.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
And then she goes up and she sits on the throne. But, like, kind of like not very confident, you know, which is. I love this show. It's so good. So now some shit's really going to go down because this was only episode two, and there's six more episodes and a whole season to go of this. So.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
She's not going to just sit there happily. So. Oh, God.
Ronnie Caram
Yeah. I feel like Allison's gonna have an issue. And then there's also be. There's gonna be an issue of, like, what does Ray Ray do with Allison? Because Allison helped her, but she as the Queen, can't be publicly nice to Alicent. And then there's also the issue of Reina, because Reina killed basically led to Jace's death. And so there's a bounty on Reyna's head, but no one realizes it was rain except for Bael. So it's like a whole. There's a whole kind of mess happening over there. Just goes to show, you know, just when you think you've. You've closed one tab, three more. Open up up.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Great show. Another great episode right in a row. Fantastic. Thanks, everybody, for being here. Go subscribe to Winter is Crappening and check us out on Watch what Crappens and we'll talk to you next time. Bye.
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Podcast: Watch What Crappens (#3427)
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: June 30, 2026
In this episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the Season 3 premiere of House of the Dragon (“Take a Seat”), serving up their usual blend of mockery, heartfelt reactions, and Bravo-informed hilarity. The duo break down all the major events, character beats, and dramatic twists from Westeros, making constant comparisons to Bravo lore, seizing on moments both weighty and ridiculous, and relishing in the gothic soap opera that is “House of the Dragon.” They praise, roast, and empathize with the disastrous Targaryen family and their cronies—while never missing a beat for a solid wiener joke.
“We did get some wiener today, and we did House of the Dragon, so that was good.” – Ben (03:20)
Ben and Ronnie balance giddy fan energy with their trademark irreverence, dissecting every plot twist and character failure with humor, analogies to modern life and Bravo drama, and unfiltered gay delight. By the end, they anticipate that the peace won’t last, and the season’s only just beginning: “Just when you think you’ve closed one tab, three more open up.” (77:39)
A must-listen (or summary to read) for anyone who wants to keep up with House of the Dragon and likes their recaps with a generous helping of humor, insight, and zero tolerance for medieval nonsense.
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