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Watch what happens. Watch what happens who cares what happens when there's so much rap? Watch what happens over little feature. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today, it's Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
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Well, hello, how are you?
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I'm doing just fab because we're here to talk about the season premiere of Next Gen New York City, Season 2, Episode 1 serving country. Before we get into that, join us on Patreon patreon.com watchmorecraft and this bonus episodes, we did a Real Housewives of Orange county trailer trash this week. Free newsletter to all to everyone ad free listening video, all the good stuff. So join us there. And today, I mean, the kids are back. The kids are back. And technically we were back because there was a link and you miss it. Cameo by the two of us the very end of the episode, which is hilarious. But Next Gen New York City season premiere what did you think, Ronnie? Fun.
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I was worried about the second season, you know, because it was a pretty good first season and I thought, wow, can they keep it going? Pretty good?
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Yeah, you know, really good. Really good. It. I felt like it felt more like, like a show show in a certain way. I felt like the season premiere last year, the first like few episodes thought it's kind of like a sizzle reel A bit like there were cast members, but there it was sort of disjointed. Like, you know, some people felt like they didn't even. They were even part of the show until later on in the. In the run. It felt like we're just sort of cobbling together stuff and there was, like, a big reliance on the parents. But this time around, it's like, okay, all the kids are here. They all have issues with each other, but all the issues are sort of like, really petty and dumb and like, we're sort of like, out of the gates in a great place. So feeling really bullish. Also got to give a shout out to the post production team because this show has so much post production going on. Like, so much editing, like, so many little effects and throwbacks and, like, visuals. Like, they really went over time on Next Gen New York City. And, like, it is, like, it's like dizzying how quickly the show is, like, zipping around all these different places and cutting back and forth. Like, that seems like a. A real undertaking on Bravo.
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They also combed through every Bravo social media account ever. Yeah. And they have all. All of us over there, which is pretty impressive. They've got all the. The commentators and social media people. Lars is on there a lot from. Sup. Great podcast. I love seeing everybody. Yeah, it was. It was neat. So this. And they were doing that because they are trying to convince us that this cast is, like, super famous now. So this season, last season, we were watching a show about, like, up and coming influencers, and this time we're shows about superstars. Like, they can't even walk on the street anymore. It's crazy. They're, like, really famous.
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Yeah. And there's so many, like, so many headlines. Right. Right away we see all these different, like, content creators saying things like some recent information that we just heard. Oh, Ariana Beerman and Riley Burris are not roommates. Ava Dash got evicted. Charlie was caught on tape. Oh, my God. Hubbub, hubbub, hubbub.
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Makes me wonder where the f. The next gen NYC cameras are. Where are they? Nancy Grace is like, I am on the case and I will figure out who is the head of this crypto kidnapping. You better keep your eyes peeled.
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Yeah. So we actually center on Myra and she's like, amira. I'm sorry, Amira. And she's like, getting ready. She's getting into her look. She's like, oh, my God. Like, the most important part is the highlighter. XOXO Amira. And so the producer. Producers are like, Are you a Gossip Girl fan? And she's like, yeah, I love Gossip Girl. That's where, like, it came from, by the way, because her screen name is XOXO Amira. And, like, they've definitely, definitely, like, making her the narrator of the season. Last season was like, we put. They put Brooks in the center in, like, the pilot seat, but now it's
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Amira and kind of Ariana. Last year, like, I'm just a girl moving to New York.
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Yeah.
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This is crazy. People cross the street here without looking both ways. Amira basically does an entire episode of putting on makeup. I've never seen more glam. And I watch Housewives every time it's a mirror. It's like getting on a different outfit and different, you know, makeup done by a glam team. Like, it's so hard.
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Truly influencer. It's difficult. So now we see what everyone's doing. Ariana has one of those, like, meta. Is it the meta quest? Whatever the things. The virtual reality thing on. And she's like, how do I turn it on? How do I turn on? Wait, like, is there non button? What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? I just want to see her, like, crash into a wall. And then Georgia is walking, and she's also on the phone, and she's like, I mean, the tariffs are not great. Like, ow. Wait, my shoes coming off in the middle of the street. Thanks a lot. Tariffs. That cracked me out.
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Georgia. Yeah, obviously, tariffs, not great. Ow, ow, ow, ow. Okay,
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I want to know the grants. What if this. What's the greater context of that conversation? Oh, my God. Geopolitics. Am I right?
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So Amira's like this group. If you can't believe it, it's gotten even more chaotic. Charlie had quite the interesting summer. Most people spent it in the Hamptons, and Charlie almost spent it behind bars. Brooks is still Brooks. He randomly started baking sourdough bread. Just very Brooks. We just cut the Brooks, like, perfectly, forming a loaf, and he's like, I need to preheat the Dutch oven. Chloe goes, Dutch oven? That's literally where you fart under the blankets and make somebody stay there.
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No, this is the Dutch oven. She's like, okay. Yeah. He goes, are you okay? I just want to see you to walk through a William Sonoma.
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Now.
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This is a spatula. What? It's a spatula. Oh. I always called it a. A spoon that got sat on. Not. No, it's a spatula. Whatever.
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So Riley's on the Asia leg of her Riley World tour. And she FaceTimed us from the club at 3am in Korea. Like, hey, girl. Me and Ariana are like, what? And then we see a text exchange checking on Ariana, and she's like, diva down. Diva down. Because, guys, guess what? Ariana, that's my girl, she showed up to New York with a pair of Louboutins and a dream honey.
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And then Ariana tells us, I had this big idea of having like a clothing line. And Ava really definitely hurt my feelings with her comment. However, it was a wake up call because, like, maybe you were right. I don't have the best style. I know, it's like, this is cute, right? But what I'm wearing, it was cute. Like, let's not give her the satisfaction of her thinking I canceled my whole line because of her, even though I did. But Hudson and I are facing all these problems over the year and I. I can't imagine us going into business together.
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Yeah. And Ariana is telling the group that she broke up with Hudson. Guys, she's moving out. It's her first time on her own. They're like, oh, my God, girl, I'm so sorry. And then we see 10 days ago, Ariana and Hudson talking. And she's like, oh, my God. The question is, this is still good for me. And it's not.
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It's not.
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He's like, sorry, babe, say break up. And he says, one day this is going to work out. I am, after all, a billionaire.
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Yeah, I am fried chicken air. So she says we were living together for like 10 years on and off, but, like, I've never gone through a breakup like this. And, like, Hudson's my best friend. And like, that's why it was so hard to walk away. And like, it was actually generally like, really hard to walk away because my mom, like, just stood in front of the door and said, you were not leaving this room. You are getting back together. I swear to God, you will not leave this billionaire. So it was like, physically difficult for me to walk away, but I did. And it's just like, it's so real. It's like so sad. It's like.
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But I'm an influencer, so I had to film it. I had to film the whole process. They even wrapped my laundry basket. So you're making tik tok videos? She's like, yeah, guys, today. Oh, God, I gotta start over. Hold on.
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Today.
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Oh, start over. Start over. Guys, today I'm gonna move my pajama box.
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Being an influencer, it's not your average 9 to 5 no matter, like, how my day is going, no matter how many laundry baskets they wrap up, no matter how if I feel I start to do something because that's my way of income. So everyone who here wants to see a laundry basket with plastic around it, you're about to be shocked.
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So she's like, yeah, you know, posting about the breakup. People are like, are they. You know, they're speculating about it. And so we made a decision to post on our story. I mean, I'm an influencer, so we had to make an influencer announcement, and we see a joint statement. Hudson and I have decided to go all separate ways. These things are never easy, but we
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both know what's best for us right
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now and blah, blah, blah. So then we see a flood of the Bravo bloggers. Like, oh, my God, Ariana made that joint statement. Ariana made a joint statement. Chef broken up a Hudson. Can you believe it's so famous?
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Ariana, one of the most famous people
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in the world, has broken up with the fried chicken person.
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I want to know who was the content creator who said, my shitty day just got ten times worse?
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And.
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And please tell me you were speaking tongue in cheek and they took you out of context, because I can't imagine the person out there that's like, guys, I need to take a sick day. I just found out that Ariana and Hudson broke up. I can't do this anymore. I can't.
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I can't. I think. I think this was the one that looked like an older, like, guy. Like, an older straight guy, like, with a beard. And he's like, my day just got 10 times worse. It's like, wow, this show has a big audience.
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People really care. They're invested.
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Yeah.
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I'm wrapping up my laundry basket in solidarity.
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Yeah.
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So. So Ariana is like. She's taking a Magic 8 ball to get some guidance. Whatever.
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Be dazzled. Thank you very much. It's a diamond. It's a diamond. Magic eight Ball.
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You're right. You're right. And Amira's like, to be a public person, whether you're born into it or thrown into it, whether you, like, didn't really want it, you have to be able to, like, see and hear all this noise and know when to tune it out and when to not tune it out, because if you don't, it will literally eat you alive. Forever. I know. Anyway, I'm gonna put this on my story. So now, Georgia, we see another headline. Georgia McCann shares her hidden struggle. Struggle in Pat's recovery from an eating Disorder. I didn't see this. I missed this. This story entirely. And she tells us, you know, prior to this show coming out, I was actually a really private person. What do I, like, not believe that? She goes, I didn't, like, post photos of myself online. Like, all of a sudden, I was super public, and everyone's, like, commenting on my body, nitpicking and everything. It was, like, really difficult. So she basically went to an inpatient program, and she says, it's the best. And you guys are seeing me again. And I'm, like, in a really, really good place, which is awesome. And I grew up a lot from this, and now I'm, like, ready to get back to my dream of starting a brut bowling alley called Club Club.
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Yeah, it was, like, so hard to get better, but I put in the effort, and I did. And then I got out and I
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heard a horrible, horrible word. Tariffs. By the way, this is, like, the first time that, like, a super serious issue has just been, like, just slotted into a welcome back montage. Like, normally, this is the sort of thing that's, like, many singings and very serious scenes on. On Bravo. And she's like, yeah, realized I had disordered eating. And so I went. I did inpatient. And I'm back and I'm great. Like, on to the next thing. Ariana got a dog or something like that. It was just like. I was like, whoa. That was like, a big deal, you know?
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Now the next headline is Damon Dash files for bankruptcy, claiming $25 million in debt. And Ava's like, honestly, like, I think it's, like, hilarious seeing what people post about me and my family. Like, I mean, I think it's funny, but, like, some of the things are so wrong, you know? I mean, I'm not going to comment on it, but then other things are, right? I'm like, how the did they know that we see headline up and out or. No, we see up and at him, actually. And he's like, today is one of the days I'm wearing sunglasses. Like, Ava Dash got evicted. And, like, she was living in Tribeca for $9.95 million a trillion quarter. And then someone got evicted.
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She's like, just to be clear, I was not evicted. I gotta notice. But I mean, who hasn't? Am I right? Ava also has, like, a little bit of a new personality. Like, because last season she was kind of like, hi, I'm Ava Dash. But this season, she's like, hi, I'm Ava Dash. She's got, like, a little bit more Pep in her step, you know? So she's like, really trying to be like. Like, I'm on camera.
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Yeah. She's like, okay, I'm Ava. And they're like, light a fire under that ass. Hi, I'm Ava. It's like, perfect places. So we see her out to eat with Georgia, and George is like, wait, literally, I wanted, like, a seltzer all morning. Thank you so much for ordering this. And she goes, that's just regular water. She's like,
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Did you hear?
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Sucks.
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Did you hear that Trump put a tariff on bubbles? It's, like, so saddening. So then she said George was like, by the way, how's Hook? And it was like, oh, my God. He's, like, really good. He just left this morning for a show. Like, every week it's a new city. It's crazy. I think he's in Missouri or something. George is like, where is that? It's like. It's like Kansas City, Missouri. You know? It's like, wait, Kansas City isn't in Kansas. Are we positive about that? Wait, wait. Now I'm wrong. Is this water even flat? I think it might actually be bubbly. Oh, my God, the world is turning upside down.
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She's like, sue, where is Kansas City, Missouri? And Sue's like, cool ass. You're often a comfortable thing to wear in the summer and the fall. God damn it, Sue.
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Have you thought about a macrame vests? Sue, I don't want your fashion sense. The answer is no, I do not want that.
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Kathy Bates won her first Oscar award for it. Not Misery. God damn it, Sue. I will not be spoken to like that.
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Sue, just tell me where Kansas City is. Well, it's in Missouri, but also Kansas. How about that? What a doozy.
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I know I've commented a lot on Sue. The personal assistant's, like, upgrade in expression when she talks, but it cracks me up. I was texting someone yesterday, and I said, I love it. And then she answered back, I love it.
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Like, yes, Sue, I do love the random, like, bits of emphasis they've taught her. It's like, you never know what's gonna. Or just, like, the personality. Like, my favorite still is when she says, okay, okay. You're like, okay. That's it. Okay.
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That's how you want to do it? I want one where it's like, okay.
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She also. Sometimes she asks, like, a rhetoric. Every now and then, there's, like, a question that she'll ask, and she does it in a tone that's kind of like. Like sixth grade. School play. She's like, I'm not quite sure about that. Maybe. Is that something you would like to look into, talking like that, Sue?
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Because she thinks you're an idiot. That's her you're an idiot voice.
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I'm not sure.
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So now the conversation moves to Charlie and the crypto torture house which he was involved in. He was living there two months in case people don't know what that was. People, a bunch of crypto people were living together and tied a guy to a chair and kidnapped him, basically trying to get his bitcoin wallet password, from what I understand.
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Yes.
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But of course, Charlie's like, what? Nothing to do with me. Sorry for sleeping on a couch.
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Sorry for hanging out with people that just happen to have a body tied up to a bed and we're probing him with the ends of a lamp extension cord.
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Join@RocketMoney.com that's RocketMoney.com Crabbins RocketMoney.com Crabbins Then we go to Ava and Georgia in a confessional together, and Ava's like, yeah, me and Georgia became friends because of Charlie, and now we're both not friends with Charlie. But, like, we had problems with Charlie before any of his headlines. It's not like a crypto torture thing. Well, like, we legit don't like Charlie. He smells.
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Yeah. Last summer he was just, like, so disrespectful, like, always making comments about, like, my body. And we have a flashback of Charlie being like, hey, kind of dope on your little nipple tanks. And Ava's like, my dad's watching that. My boyfriend's watching that. We're not happy. Hook's not happy. And George is like. Like, it was disgusting. Like, no. Yeah. Like, I think that, like, we're on the same page a lot because the pros and cons of being his friend, like, all of your Omar BS and, like, posting with Omar, that's, like, crazy.
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Yeah. So Dave was like, yeah, Charlie's not dating Georgia's ex. I'm just kidding. But you would think that based on their Instagrams. So now Charlie has befriended that guy who's, like, a big crypto guy, because Charlie is going to befriend any rich male he's gonna get. He's gonna try and get that money from somebody. He's befriended him. And then Ariana's ex, which we find it's a bit. Little bit.
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It's. I mean, it's. It's so textbook. It's so predictable. I'm actually shocked that we did not predict this, because of course he was going to gravitate towards the two wealthiest people. Although I don't think that Omar is wealthy. I think Omar is also a grifter. So probably Omar and Charlie together are going to fleece Hudson for millions of dollars.
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Well, I mean, he's. We. He could be a grifter because he's like one of those crypto guys, but he could be a grifter. But he had a pretty big, nice office in Manhattan, so. True.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, well, he's getting money from someplace, so I don't know. And of course, he see this kid sees that, and it's like, I will take it. I will be there so you can invest in my next crypto coin board.
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And then Georgia, meanwhile, is like, by the way, I don't know if they're doing bowling or not, those guys, but, like, it's insane that they're even, like, hanging out. And by the way, speaking of insane, did you see Ariana and Hudson's coordinated breakup stories? And Ava's like, I know. Are you, like, Kate Middleton? Like, who cares? Yeah, no Kate Middleton. Burn.
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So Brooks is still making his bread. I don't know if it's the same bread or if it's a new bread, if it's a different day and a different loaf, like, who knows? But he's like, I was really surprised to see that they, like, issued public statements. And Chloe's like, yeah, I was surprised too. Like, it's no one's business, but opening the door to it answered. I mean, it opens people the questions. Like, what. What do you call it if you fart under a blanket, but then don't let me out? Told you. Told you.
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Chloe, do you think, like, we should stop making this bread and wait for, like, mom and dad and aunt wants her face to come over so that way we can all put our hand on it before it goes in the oven? Yeah, I think that's, like, the right plan. But is it the oven or the Dutch oven? Whoa. That just, like, blew my mind.
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Then we go back to Ava in Georgia, and Ava's like, yeah, the joint collab breakup announcement. I've never seen that before.
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Like, I'm like, this. How you know that they're really young because I feel like the joint collab breakup thing is a thing that people do. Like, Gwyneth Paltrow famously did it with what's his face from Coldplay. Right? Like, the consciously uncoupling, I guess. It's like, only old people do it, and, like, the young people just don't. So she's like, whoa, was it because
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of how they did it? Like, you'll be a collaborator on this post.
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It was like, sponsored. Sponsored by, like, 4Loco.
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Yeah, but the main plot is like, are they. Are they faking it for the show? Yes, of course they are. They're gonna get back together. They're doing it for the show. No daughter of Ziak is going to leave a billionaire. There's no way. There's no way Kim Zak would not be there, barring the door. Like you said earlier, there's no way people.
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Yeah, And George is like. I mean, like, when I break up and I take it to social media, I do it like on Xanax in a foreign country. And then we see a clip of her from last year. At the end of last season, when she was like, guys, we got into a fight, and he got up all my money, and I'm stuck in Hong Kong. Someone saved me. Just the funniest twist. She did it.
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And I love the format she did it in. Wasn't she holding, like, one of the tiny mics? And she's like, yeah. So imagine this. You're like a girl. A girl in a foreign country, and you get into a fight one night, and then he cuts you off financially, completely, and you have no cards because you've been using his cards. Like, up out of her mind. I like when people do a third person. Imagine.
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Imagine you're a George.
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You've just learned about tariffs and hurt your heel on a cobblestone right after your boyfriend took away his credit cards,
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when the truth about tariffs is so devastating, your stiletto goes right into the middle of the cobblestone. You can't get out. Thank you. So if it was like, they're like,
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yeah, they just want to be talked about. So then we go back to Chloe, and Chloe's like, there are going to be people that don't think it's real. And I think you should tell her that there are people that are going to think that and that she should be prepared for that.
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Are we talking about Dutch oven still? Yeah. So back to Ava and Georgia. George is like, there's no way. It's not real. It's like pr. PR for the Show I don't care. I'm not going to say otherwise, okay? Until I get some bubbly water in here, I'm gonna stick with my story. And it was like, I agree. And so George is like, do you think that they use chat GPT to help write the post? Like, yes, obviously.
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So now we go out waiting for a cab with Ariana and she's like, we're looking for a Toyota Highlander. Oh my God. I'm like, Carrie Bradshaw right now.
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Yeah. And Ariana's like, Since I was 14, I saw this boy who I loved and I wanted to help. And he was. He always called me when he bad. You know, the way billionaire children are. And like, he knew I was going to be there because I care about this person so deeply and I love free chicken and they deserve somebody to be there and to hold their hand. And then, like, as time went on, I kind of realized nobody was holding mine. What I thought was holding on to my hand was just an old drumstick becoming soggier and soggier.
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She's like, yeah, like, he didn't even take me on dates. I'm like, make this more romantic or I'm not going to be with you. You know, he just needs to grow up. On our way home, I'm on our way to our new home though now. I'm excited, I'm nervous. And we see Brooklyn and she tells the dogs, I don't know which one of you farted, but it's diabolical.
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So now we are back with Amira, who, guess what, Getting glam. And she's like, I just like, want to make a thing of, like, make a list of like, all the things I need to do for like the second Gwen is done. Like, I need to brush my teeth, I need to pack my bag, I need perfume and deodorant. Like, okay, all these things I gotta do. And we see like her assistant's like, yeah, yeah, great. Okay. Gorge, gorge. Look great. You look wonderful. She's like, slay Bram Lincoln.
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I love her list. It's like, brush your teeth, put on clothes, put contacts in. Altruistic tick tocks.
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I love altruistic tiktoks.
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So then Amir is in the car facetiming with Brooks and she's on her way to a Victoria's Secret show. This is my look. Diva. He's like, oh my God, you look sapphire.
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So far, so fire.
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And they talk about her birthday and who's going to be coming to her big birthday party. And she invited Hudson because, you know, she didn't. She thought it would be uncomfortable. But even. What's your button Said to invite him. And she also invited Charlie. Okay. Because, sure, Charlie's troublesome, but they're friends, so she's inviting Charlie.
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I'm, like, not excited about that because, like, last year, his behavior cracked a lot of my friendships. Kind of like the top of a good sourdough. It's like, I don't want to lose these people that I'm, like, so close with. Like, do you remember that when he texted Chloe and he was like, yeah, I can't wait to hang out? I was like, gross. Oh, my God. So mayor is like, well, we've been friends for, like, so long. I just feel like I have to invite him. I mean, I feel like some kind of responsibility to try to, like, mend what's happening between Brooks and Charlie because the three of us have, like, known each other for, like, a long time, and I can completely understand how Brooks is feeling. And, like, Charlie put himself in this situation. He hasn't built the best friendships for over the past year. But at the same time, everyone should just, like, give him a chance, because it's a new season. We have to make friendships, okay? Like, that's basically it. The producers told me we have to be friends.
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So still, Georgia, Georgia and Ava are at lunch, and they're talking about seeing everybody at the birthday party for the first time in the season. And Ava's like, I'm so excited because, like, Gia did this podcast where she, like, called me a liar. And then we see a clip of Gia being like, like, you're just, like, lying. You're, like, a liar.
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Ariana did a couple of different interviews saying that, like, I'm not a sweet girl. And then Amira, I saw all of her confessionals, like, talking, and George was like, oh, my God. Same saying that I was like, fat shaming. Like, it's like a fat shaming hoe. Like, I actually, like, with Amira heavy. And that's the thing. Like, I would. I would like to clear the air. And then I also, like, let's get to the bottom of these tariffs. Am I right? Ava's like, yeah, I like to know where I'm at with people, because, like, we're New Yorkers. Like, we want to, like, fucking know.
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So Amira's saying, we started the fall off with good drama. Ariana and Hudson broken up. Ava and Gia beefing. Me and Georgia haven't cleared the air. And then Charlie, he's on his own little island. And then we go to Charlie, who is cool as ever, you guys. He's like, yeah, I'm Charlie. And he's wearing sunglasses outside and it's dark. And he goes, ye, yeah, sunglasses. Yeah, yeah. It's basically nighttime for me. It's basically nighttime for me, guys. It's like dark. And they point to the sky. They're like, it is actually dark.
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Yeah, that's amazing how that works. And then there are lots, all these headlines. They keep showing the same shot of this video footage of Charlie, but at the torture house. And it's like, this is about Charlie, allegedly. He was in the same town home where the crypto kidnapping took place. And he was in the house. The crypto, bro. Crypto, Crypto, crypto. And he's like, okay, I'm aware that TikTok is saying some shit about me, but I don't have it, so it doesn't affect me all that directly. Yeah, I don't do TikTok. Okay. I'm a little bit more progressive, so I really only see the positive things about myself. I'm like, so you're not really seeing much, are you? And he goes, the negatives, they don't really, like, they don't know my narcissism. Like, I'm blind to it. Like, it's like hieroglyphics, you know? It's like. Then, like, compliments. I'm like, good with, like, the noise. I'll be like, fine. I'm like, you're making no sense reading through that paragraph. I was like, what is he saying here?
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He's like, my narcissism filters out the bad stuff. It's like, bad stuff looks like hieroglyphics. I only see compliments. So, yeah. So then Charlie calls Hudson and he's like, ah, call. Just check in. I saw that, like, Instagram story yesterday about you guys, like, breaking up or some. I'm glad it was on Instagram. So I know because I do not have Tik Tok.
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Yeah. Hudson's like, yeah, I think it's been coming for a while. He's like, yeah, crazy news, you know? It's like, yeah, no, it's like the streets are rippling in response to it. Except maybe on Tick Tock, but I wouldn't know because I don't have it. It's like, yeah, it's. The whole entire nation's talking about a breakup. It's crazy, man.
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National attention giveth and national attention taketh away. Am I right? Celebrity Bible. Real famous now.
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So the producers speakers.
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The producer's like, whoa, you guys are friends now? That's weird. And he's like, couldn't disagree more. I mean, I think we're like, the most likely duo. I mean, I, you know, I gotta take Hudson under my wing things. He's a sweet borderline too. Nice billionaire. What's not to love? Sure.
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Yeah, I know. I think that he needs me, or at least he needs me in his ear, and I need him in my wallet. Hudson goes, yeah, we'll get more into it before Amira's party. It'll be the first time I've seen Ariana since we broke up. So Charlie's like, I'm excited for the drama, that's for sure. You mind paying for this, by the way? He says, look, I have a lot of flaws. Let's be clear. I'm not Mr. Perfect. But there's always. But there are ways in which Hudson could benefit from my very smart and critically thought out advice that's gotten me this far in life.
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Yeah, you're doing great. So they're gonna pre party before this thing. And then we see another headline that Gia was involved in Hudson and Ariana's breakup. And so now we see G and Ariana together in a confessional. And Ariana's like, she broke us up. Just kidding. We're like, like, such a good friend. She's not a home wrecker. And she's like, moving on.
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Yeah. And we see a tax exchange exchange where Gia's like, can't wait to see the new place. I need spices. I'm just gonna steal them from here. Because Gia is at home right now. And because Gia is going to be moving from New Jersey to another part of New Jersey that's a little closer to the city.
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Yeah, but she's moving out. She's like, mom, I'm gonna take some of our spices. And Teresa's like, I need the spices for cookings, but you can take plates. You want some plates? She, like, pulls out some glasses, and they're all leopard print. And she is like, ew, no, don't give me the trash. Like, these ain't trash.
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Come on.
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Teresa's is, like, very funny in the scene because you can see she's like, she's not had her annual boot up for the Real Housewives in New Jersey. So it's almost like her engines are still coming to life.
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She's like, hello, how's it going?
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It's like the monitors are still turning out. Like they're turning on Jurassic park after rebooting it. And Gia's like, yeah, I thought that when I would move out of my house, he'll be with Christian. And Christian and I have been together for six years. But I wanted to tackle this on my own. I wanted to tackle the challenge of moving from one part of New Jersey to another part of New Jersey on my own.
C
Then we go to Ariana's, and she's like, oh, my God, how do you set up the WI fi? I'm just a girl. A girl who's new to the city. So she has a roommate now named Austin that we meet. And she sends a text to the group chat, and she's like, do you guys know how to set up Internet service for your apartment?
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Just like, oh, my God. Is that a thing you have to do for yourself? And I was like, yeah, yeah. You know, our friend group, we, like, we all have, like, a group chat. And Amir's like, yeah, I love a group chat. Because, like, right now in the group chat, it's like, me and Ava and Brooks and Gia and Hudson and Riley and Shai and Ariana and Georgia. I'm like, so the full cast, you mean? But Charlie has left the group chat.
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Nobody know what even acknowledged, like, yeah, we didn't even add it back. And Georgia says, yeah, there's offshoots to the main group obs. So Ava is telling us that Shai started a group chat with her and Brooks, but her and Brooks haven't answered it yet. And it's really awkward. Well, why are you being mean to shy? What he did?
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I know. What's wrong with shy? Everyone like, shy. I thought it's like, yeah, we don't hang out with that one one on one. So Ariana is like, yeah, we had, like, a people press event, and Ava was, like, really rude to us. She's like, yeah, barely even said hello. Didn't even acknowledge us, even after I moved to a different part of New Jersey. And Ariane's like, yeah, in the green room. She was like, over in the corner. And Gina G's like, yeah, taking selfies in the mirror. It was like giving self absorbed thinking that she was America's next top model.
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And Arya was like, I mean, she is kind of hot, though, right? It's like, yeah, she's hot. Yeah, like, she's hot. I want to be friends with her still. Yeah, she's hot. I want to be friends with her too. So Ava is telling us I'm not feeling great about Gia because last summer I noticed that Gia's mother had followed me. And then she unfollowed me. And then I guess. Guess Gia didn't think that was true. And we see a clip from the vile files where Nick's like, wait a minute. Your mom's not following Ava. And she's like, well, when Ava said that, I was like, girl, you're just, like, lying. Because, like, I know my mom, and she doesn't care that much to unfollow you.
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Ava really grasping for straws to have a beef with someone, being like, wait, your mom followed me and then unfollowed me? And then you went on to Vi. File files. And then he said I was a liar. This friendship is over.
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But it's a weird thing. We even have to go on to the vial. The vial files about, like, wow.
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Also, like, who is tracking Theresa?
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Follow and unfollow.
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Don.
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Don. Don.
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Yeah. Who was tracking Teresa's, like, status with Ava. It's so specific. Save is like, I just don't want to be called a liar. And when your friends are talking badly about you in the public, that's not a good look. I don't want this to bring up. To bring this up at Amira's party, but we're gonna have to figure this one out. Like, please do. This is obviously tearing America apart. This and the tariffs.
C
Yeah. So they are talking. They're texting now about the party, and Brooks is texting someone named Liam, and he's like, you're coming to Amira's birthday, right? And he's like, yeah. And he goes, well, Liam's definitely coming. I'm meeting him right now. And Amira says, does he know the theme? And Brooke says, I mean, he's like, liter cowboys.
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So, yeah. So here comes Liam. New cast member alert. It's Liam, and he's playing ice hockey. And producer's like, have you seen heated rivalry yet? He's like, yeah, I've yet to watch it. I auditioned for it, though. And, like, what role? He's like, the blonde one. Like, well, you need a Russian accent. He's like, yeah, that's probably why I didn't get it, because otherwise, I was a shoe in. Right, Right. Check me out, ladies and men.
C
Yeah, so he's. He's in my hockey, guys. He's playing hockey. And Brooks tells us Liam's lore is crazy. He's gone from Nickelodeon star to Law and Order, and now, like, what, you're just like, yourself now?
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Yeah.
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And he's got moan face.
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No, he does look like a Culkin
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or like, the brother. The brother from Succession Kieran.
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Yeah, yeah, Kieran. Even more so. Absolutely. I think that's a great call. He. This guy. I feel like this guy's trouble. I'm just gonna say it. He's like, if there's something like, performative about him that I feel like is gonna come out, like, he's very, like,
C
legs crossed, back in the chair. He's like, guys, being a celebrity is a lot okay. I mean, it is really hard to ask him. I autograph every day.
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Right.
C
It's like, who are you?
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Yeah. Like, there's something about, like all these things that he does that I feel like is very much about, like, image building to cover up some awfulness.
C
Well, I mean, you're a cast member on a Bravo show, so we can only assume.
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So producer asks him, do you ever watch reality tv? And he's like, yeah, I watched like, one season of Love Island. Wasn't for me, stupid. And then Brooks is like, yeah, I have actually quite the experience with ice hockey because I attempted to be, like, become pre NFL, you know, and Liam's like, like, NHL, you mean? He's like, yeah, NHL. Yeah. When I was 12, I was in a class full of five year olds all looking to. To demolish me, which, like, sounds crazy, but, like, actually, like, really scary. Getting attacked by toddlers, you know, it was like mini torpedoes. That's hilarious.
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They put him in there when he was 12 and everybody's 5.
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It's like, oh, my God, his age group.
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I'm being attacked by five year olds. So they skid together, and as they leave the locker room, Brooks is like, does it always smell like that in there? He's like, yeah, it's hockey Stitch. Yeah. So he's like, what do I do? That's a loaded question. When I'm not acting, writing, directing, producing, arting, painting, you know, writing, singing, whatever. I'm a ski instructor, volunteer fireman. I ride horses, motorcycles, my spare time, surf when I can. I play on three men's hockey league teams, which I love. One of them's just a movie. I was Cat. I cast myself in it. I wrote it, I'm producing it. I've got the Cougars, the dirge, hedge money. Pretty big. Pretty big.
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Do you have an outfit for Beer's birthday party, though? He's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm about to sew it, because I do that too. Yeah. It's like, I know there's like a theme and, like, Amira is, like, completely, like, dedicated to the theme. He's like, oh, yeah, like cowboys. Should I get cowboy boots? You have them. And Ed, Brooks is Like, I do. It's, like, pointed to her square tower. So I haven't thought about it that deeply. We're still trying to work through Dutch oven stuff in my place, so. Yeah.
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He's like, yeah, well, my boots are pointy and last time riding. Then I wear square. I'm a cowboy. I'm a cowboy too. Yeah. I grew up in Manhattan, but my parents are not housewives. They're not celebrities. They're, like, successful in their own way. Yeah. They have a house in upstate New York. It's where my horse lives. God love my horse to death. His name is Juy. Got a horse? My horse rides a motorcycle. Pretty interesting. Pretty fascinating guy all around.
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Yeah. Horse is a volunteer fireman, too. It's crazy. Put out a flame. Like. Like nuts. So, yeah, he's like, I wonder who his parents are. I'm sure. I think it was. It was published. They're probably, what, financiers or something like that if they're not celebrities or reality stars. Because everyone on this show has parents that are up some sort of acclaim. So Liam is like, I just want to make sure my nipples aren't popping out here because I'll be on nipple sites instead of feet sites. Did you hear this, by the way? I found out I was on a feet website. Right. I. I don't know how I got on there. Maybe I submitted myself. Who knows? I'm so busy. I do so many things.
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Yeah. Brooks is like, oh, my God. Wait, Wiki fee. Yeah, same. He's like, what, even the. Is this? Yeah. You know they rank your feet too. They rank your feet one out of five. I looked it up. I'm 4.488. Brooks is like, I'm a 4.9. Wow. Like that. They're following their feed on wiki feet.
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I know. So now we, the kids, they, they.
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They.
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They get onto the rink, and Brooks is like, oh, my God. This is like, who I used to compete against. I'm like, scared. I'm like, scared. Are there toddlers around? This is scary. So now we go up to Amira and Charlie. They're meeting up in a park, and Charlie's like, oh, my God. God, this homeless guy is always outside the box. Dead ass. Same homeless guy I saw last night. Celebrity.
C
Yeah, he's like the resident of the box. Homeless guy. That's it. So they start talking about her party, and she's like, so it's us. Shy. Hudson, Ariana's coming. And he's like, oh, yeah, they broke up. By the way, Hudson's like, really warmed up to me. Have you heard? Yeah, we're, like, best friends, so.
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Yeah, I feel like you guys have, like, very similar personalities. Like, yeah, he's like me if I was, like, whipped and sober. Am I right? It's like, no, no, no. Yeah, well, I like Hudson. He's a homie. And I won't like his girl, probably because I would rather be homies with him. So. Yeah.
C
Oh, God. He's like, yeah, but, you know, like, oh, good. Whatever. She's like, I want to keep everything chill because my parents are coming, and I'm excited about that, but everybody needs to be on their best behavior. And Brooks is coming, George is coming. I'm kind of nervous about that, but I just want an apology, you know, because she aired out, like, my medical history. I mean, hello, Hippa. Right? All right. And we see because Georgia said, oh, my God, you're eating. Like, what? Is the Ozempic wearing off? That was pretty innocent, but, yeah, I
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thought so, too, and. But I guess it's an invasion of privacy for Gen Z, so Mirror's like, yeah, I've, like, struggled with an eating disorder in the past, and she's like, you know, had her issues, so we bonded over that.
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That.
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And then for her to air that out publicly, I was just kind of like, what the. Let me enjoy my red Robin. And so Charlie's like, yeah, I'm sure I'll have to have a conversation with Georgia because I've been chilling with Omar. Yeah. So, like, that's been pissing her off, obviously. So, yeah, Mirror's like, yeah, it's pretty good that we're, like, having this, like, pre Kiki before the party. He's like, yeah, good terms with everybody. Like, Hudson shy. Really? The person? I mean, like, Brooks, he's like, we're never on bad terms. I'm always on, like, neutral terms with Brooks. So that's good, right? Nothing could possibly change the status of our relationship right now. No piece of information you're about to give me for sure.
C
She's like, well, Brooks is sometimes just really sensitive, you know, like, with certain things. And that's why he was just asking me about you. And he goes, oh, my God. What kind of is he complaining about? It's like, well, he's just, like, you know, anxious about you being there. He says, well, he can suck my dick. Okay? It's your birthday party. I don't give a if he's anxious. Like, what have I said to him in past. The past here. Okay, just give me Some logic here. Can I get some logic?
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Wait, hear me out. I think he's just, like, speaking on behalf of, like, the entire group. Maybe it's like, who? Like Riley and Hudson. Like, he's like, hudson and I are boys. Don't you remember when I said that earlier? When I said Hudson and I are boys? Like, he doesn't give a.
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So he's like, this is exhausting. Okay? I'm exhausted. She goes, oh, my God. He's like, brooklyn needs to find a interesting thing about him and leave me the alone. You know, if he wasn't so concerned with his image and who he thinks he should and should not be associating with, or a sourdough is going to deflate, it would be a lot easier for him to be my friend. And she's like, well, you're a good friend to me, so surely nothing will ever break that. Right?
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As the co. As this conversation progresses, my hopes for a peaceful night are tanking. Yeah. So now some more text messages. Have you talked to Charlie yet? Yeah, I just talked to him. He literally can't wait to see everyone. Are you lying? Yes. And then more text messages between Ava and Brooks. Did you survive hockey? Yeah, I barely. Like, barely. I, like, want a pregame at mine. Deny a pregame at my place.
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They're basically talking about, is the Ariana breakup real? So of course, text immediately. Tattletale girls. And he's like, oh, my God, Ariana. There's a bit of a sitch. So she gets the text. It's like, girl, call me. We gotta talk. Just think you should know people think your breakup is just for this show. So now we go to Amira's birthday party. It's a cowgirl party. She's like, yeah, we wanted to call it a cunty party, but Bravo's making us call it country, so whatever. Bravo?
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Yeah. My birthday is like a national holiday. I mean, it's actually not one, but like. But like, maybe one day, like altruistic tick tocks for everyone. One, Right? And this birthday party, like, I'm just happy everyone's coming. I just don't want any mess whatsoever. But at the same time, like, George and I are, like, in a weird place and I do think we need to clear the air. But, like, maybe it's not the best place to do it, but it's my birthday, so. What? Like, what's. What, like, what's she gonna do? Leave? I'm like, literally? Yes. But anyway, go on.
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So now we're over at Ariana's Apartment for a pregame over there. And Gia comes over and she brought her a little bouquet of flowers. And they're like, oh my God, you can see the statue of Liberty from here. Like, oh my God, that's insane. So Gia FaceTimes Brooks and Ariana's like, today's my birthday and one day of the year it's supposed to be all about me. I. I'm getting some different gifts. I'm going to someone else's birthday party. I'm gonna see my ex boyfriend who I haven't seen in a few weeks. Just saw him 10 days ago. According to the camera, Riley's in Atlanta. I get to see Ava, who annoys the out sometimes. I mean, the list could go on and on.
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Yeah. And Gia is saying how they're not going to go pregame at with Hudson, Charlie and Shy tonight. And Ariana's like, yeah, no one's going to go there. I mean, what a fun group, right? We're going to party here with my sister Brielle. And Brielle's like, I don't know what? Hudson and Charlie were like, friends. Like, when were they friends? Like, because they both want you, right? And she is like, yeah, that's what I'm saying, girlfriend. It's like, yeah, it's a wonderful life.
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So Brielle's like, whoa, let's hope Liam's hot because he's got a fat ass. All hockey players have a fat ass. That's hot.
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Liam plays on three different like hockey teams. So like, yeah. Brielle's like, yeah, badass. So RN is like, well, we'll see tonight. So then the producers asking Brooks if he likes a southern accent. He's like, yeah, yes, ma'. Am. Look, I can do one. I feel like there's a southerner inside of me.
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My.
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My voice sounds less irritating in a southern accent. Woohoo. Dutch ovens.
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Ariana is saying, oh, I heard from a little birdie that Jordan's got some to say. Oh, she thinks it's really convenient timing that I broke up with my boyfriend for filming. I mean, it is. Come on. And so everybody's getting themselves working up for this party. Like first party fights. First. First party fights. Let's do it. Meanwhile, Liam arrives at Brooks's and Brooks has a bottle of whiskey and he's like, do you want some of this? I don't really know what it is, but looks like it's in character style.
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Yeah. So let's see. It's a lot going on. I'm having A hard time as a. A podcaster because almost this entire episode was actually, like, talking heads. So I got a little lost here, but Liam comes in.
C
They're all just getting ready to go to this party. Hudson's, you know, still texting Ariana, and he's like, ah, babe, so glad I'm gonna get to see you. Hopefully we can work it out, because, like, you're everything. And she's like, okay. And Hudson's telling us, yeah, we've been texting. You know, I've been texting her more than she's been texting me, for sure. Maybe it's like she's creating more of a boundary than I am. But I want you to know that I have sty season, and I'm in a white leather motorcycle jacket for no reason. Really? You like it?
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Yeah. And you know what? Like, and we see a flashback to Ariana and Hudson during their breakup, and he's like, please feel, feel, please feel more than welcome to keep a key. Cuz, like, I like, say, if you're ever in the city and you just want to stop by, even if I'm not there, that's fine. By the way, I love that he's like, if you're ever in the city, like, she's in Brooklyn. But it's like, that's such a Manhattan thing to be. Like, if you ever wind up coming to New York City someday day, just let me know. I'll be here.
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So the producer asked Charlie if it's weird to be hanging. No, ask Hudson if it's weird to be hanging out with Charlie after all the said stuff he said about hooking up with Ariana. And he's like, well, Charlie reached out to me, and it was kind of shocking. I mean, because he's like, 80 dick and 20% nice, but, you know, whatever. I like them. So now they're besties, and Shy is gonna come meet them as well. And then he's talking about how surreal it is to break up with Ariana and see her presence gone from the apartment. And then Shy comes over, and Sean makes everybody feel better, guys. And Gia is saying that she feels bad for Ariana because it's her birthday and she has to go to someone else's birthday and see her ex. It's pretty shitty birthday to me.
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And now an insight into the world of Ava. So she tells us. My main goal was always modeling, but now the modeling world and the social media world are very intertwined. And I don't consider myself an influencer. I'm still Working on my social presence. And the more followers you have, obviously, the more you're going to get paid. And it'd be nice if I had over a hundred thousand on TikTok. And she only has 18,000 followers on TikTok, which is shocking. And our note taker did check, and as of last night, she's up to 20.6. So, you know, she's getting there slowly but sure.
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And she's like, just because I'm Damon Dash's daughter doesn't mean anything. Your reputation is everything. So if my friend is calling me a liar, what are brands supposed to think? I mean, how is Casper Mattress supposed to trust me if Gia doesn't?
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I know she's like, I'm not an influencer, but what about brands? What's gonna happen?
C
Moisturizer from a liar.
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I know who will take my away luggage advice. So now we see Charlie in a cab, and he's like, it's been, like, an interesting and stressful few months. I know that it's like the elephant in the room, you know, amongst the group. And I wish I could address it more directly, but I think the truth will come out eventually. And if you know me, you know that I probably wasn't kidnapping and torturing anybody, right? I'm like, I don't know that for sure, to be honest.
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None of us think that you were not involved, okay? Literally, everybody thinks you were involved in that. So Ava comes to Brooks's and she's like, yeah, I was watching Boss Baby, like, last night, and it reminds me of Brooks because it's like a baby, but the baby's like a boss of things. Like, wow. Yeah.
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Well, he is a little toddler, but he does have a lot of executive responsibilities. So now Ava and Liam meet, and then Charlie arrives at Hudson's and shines there, and everyone's sort of getting to their pre parties. It's like, it's. It's. It's wild how much is, like, going on on this show? I mean, there's like, so much cross cutting and there's so much talking and there's so much, like, set up, but actually very little is happening at the same time. Like, basically, it's like they've been slowly moving towards their pre parties all this time. And so now with Brooks and Liam's friends, who are Kendall and Jackson, and Liam's like, yeah, we went to middle school and, like, the beginning of high school together. So that's the lore between me and these other two guys that aren't on this show.
C
But, yeah, but they don't really know him. Okay, they kind of know, but they don't really know him. And then the producer asks Ava what she thinks of Shai, and Ava goes, I don't. And her. And George is like, laugh. What did Shy do? I. That's all I care about in this. Because Shy seems like the sweetest guy ever. And I'm a. Who's hating Shy? What did he do? So then we go back to Hudson's, and they're talking about, like, liquor. He's like, I don't even know if I have liquor, guys. And Shai says that he's in the group now. He came in with Dylan, but then Dylan moved sadness. And now he's got this group of friends, and he didn't leave them because he's like, wow, they're just, like, so fun and interesting and on tv, I
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thought at some point they're just gonna be like, this is just a big prank show, right? Like, this isn't, like, a real show, but it's a real show, and I'm. I'm here, and I guess people like me, so I'm gonna stay. So here I am. So now we go back to Brooks and Brooks's place, and Ava's like, I don't believe it's a real breakup. I'm sorry. I've just never seen any exes do, like, a joint story post to announce their breakup. Like.
C
And Brook says, I would be extremely hurt if I heard that. She's like, well, I'm not trying to, like, hurt anybody's feelings. God, people are so sensitive. So then back at Hudson's, the Hudson's like, we're gonna have some ground rules about my girlfriend, right? And Charlie's like, oh, yeah, listen, I have no intention of sacrificing this friendship for that. I mean, God, unless you become poor, you're safe at the Me I want to you Charlie, you. Gross.
A
He's like, but I kind of get the sense from Charlie. He's like, there's gonna come a time where I'm gonna ask for money, and if you don't give me that money, then all bets are off, and I will go after your girlfriend. So just letting you know that right now. So then Georgia and a friend are walking along, and George is like, I don't know how long I'm gonna stay. I was, like, literally fighting for my life on the toilet last night. I mean, tariffs are not good for the body.
C
Yeah, I think I had, like, bad salami and, like, bodega Sandwiches are, like, the staple of New York. And, like, I didn't go to my normal place, but, like, literally, I thank God every day for bodegas, because, like, the world could end or, like, I don't know, the city could be on fire, and I could still find my chicken cutlet sandwiches.
A
So Georgia arrives this part of the spot.
C
They're.
A
They're all there. And this is. She's the. She's the first one to there with her. First one to arrive there with her friend. And, like, the only one that are there are Amira's parents. So she's like, oh, hi. This is great. Where is everyone? Is it just. It's just me and Amir's parents. Everyone get here.
C
The parents are like, oh, my God, Good to see you kids. And everybody's just on their phone texting, like, oh, my God, please, it's only old people here.
A
They're pouring, like, lemonade and handing out soda. You guys want to dance?
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It's okay.
A
You can dance with people.
C
So then Georgia's like, yeah, things are awkward with Amira and I, And Georgia says, you know, she has her opinion, her opinions, but we haven't discussed it directly. But just to keep hearing that, she's got this anger. I mean, there's like, an elephant in the room, and it's never been addressed. So now we see Kevin, Amira's boyfriend, and we see footage of them in a car from last year, and Amira saying she's, like, touching Kevin's leg. Doing it.
A
No, not Kevin's leg. So Georgia tells us. What I think was, like, really going on was that she had been, like, telling everyone that I was, like, flirting with Kevin on this trip. And then the unaired clip is Kevin saying, like, it was, like, three times, and Charlie was like, stop playing footsie with him. And she just, like, stopped after that. Oh.
C
So Kevin. Kevin's. Kevin's saying that she's flirting with him. So George is like, that, like, did not like haba. So in the clip, Amira says, if. If she comes to my man again, I'm gonna gut her like a fish. So George is like, yeah, she's really mad at that, but she's making about this OIC comment, so whatever. So then we see George and Amira, like, fakely say hello, like, hi. Hi.
A
Great to see you. Great to see you. I've been my ass out all night because of bad baloney, but great to see you guys.
C
And then it's a birthday party for Amira, but she's an influencer. I don't know if you've seen her get ready 30 times this episode, but, yeah, this is not just a party. This is work. Because she's influencing, so it's hard. Watch out.
A
She's. It's. You know what? The altruistic tiktoks never end, even on your birthday. I mean, talk about altruism. Putting your birthday to the side to do a tik tok for the people. Wow, that is kind.
C
Yeah, it's big. So then Georgia talks about how she's had diarrhea to everybody that comes up to her, like, hey, Georgia, how are you? She's like, my guts out. How are you? Great.
A
Can I tell you how I don't wash my hands? So then, Aria, that people are arriving and saying hi and everything is typical. Like. Like, people are arriving at a party scene. And Ava's like, I haven't seen Gia since Gia called me a liar on a podcast. Kind of awkward, because I don't want to start drama at somebody's party about how Teresa followed me and then didn't follow me. I might not have the best birthday party track record. I don't want to be that girl. I'm telling you, you. I really do value birthdays.
C
So then Georgina comes up to talk to Gia and Ariana. She's like, oh, my God, you guys. So good to see you. So sorry about your breakup. TBH thought it was fake for this show. Is it fake? Like, no, my God, it's not fake. Yeah, because then you were making, like, moving tik toks, and I was like, who makes moving tik toks? Like, that's, like, literally crazy. She's like, no, but, like, I was legit making. Making sad, moving tick tocks. Like, I'm so sorry. I thought that you guys. I totally believe it's real now. I talked to her. It's, like, totally normal for her to make moving tick tocks.
A
So, yeah. So Ariana's like.
C
It's like, okay, guys, I cleared it up. I asked her if it was crazy, but you know what? She had a very moving vlog. So, yeah, I received it. I received it.
A
It was really. Was really good. And so Ariana's like, obviously the two peas in the pod, like, George and Ava. Ava thinks that, like, the same thing too. But, like, Ava's not really my friend, so, like, think what you want to think, Georgia. What the.
C
George is like, oh, my God, Ava, we were so wrong. It's totally a real breakup. Like, it was wrong. Like, it was a real breakup. So if it's like, I just hope I can avoid trauma tonight, right?
A
I hope the other elephant in the room, which is Gia calling me an elephant because of her mom, doesn't crowd out all this space. Oh, my God. America can't stop talking about it.
C
So then now Wacky Shy puts on a horse costume, and the guy's like, you're going like a horse. That's crazy. I'm back at the party, and George is like, wow. I really think now that Hudson's single, Charlie's probably doing what he did with my ex, having Hudson pay for everything. Bang.
A
Yep. Yep, that's correct.
C
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, go ahead.
A
Yeah. No, we just see Shy Hudson and Charlie. They're, like, in a cab, and they're, like, talking about, like, Shy saying, like, oh, yeah, by the way, Ariana says she's bringing her sister in there. Brielle.
C
Yeah.
A
Charlie's like, yeah, you love talking to Ariana, bro. She's like, oh, yeah, really? Talking to my ex like that. Shy's like, whoa. I called her for her birthday and she said, like, oh, I'm bringing my friends. She was like, oh, yeah. What? Do you hear this? Do you hear, like, you really, like, wow. Shy. Wow. Can you believe it? Could you believe it? Talking to Ariana? What? Stupid.
C
So someone at the party is taking a picture of Amira, and they're like, oh, my God, your tits defy gravity. She's like, they really do, honey. I paid for them. So then Amira decides to go have a conversation with Georgia because that Ozempic comment never really got addressed. And I know the person who does not want Ozempic talked about. I'm going to talk about it 30 times today, okay? I'm on Ozempic, and we're gonna fight about it right now.
A
Even though it was literally squashed at a table in a scene last summer, we'll just pretend like it was never addressed in the first place. So, yeah, let's have another scene about it. So she's like, she's gonna go pull Georgia for a chat. And George is like, yeah, well, the thing is that, like, I really, like, literally do have to, like, leave in, like, five minutes. So what is this in regards to? Mirror's like, it's fine. Let's just have a conversation. She's like, yeah, but, like, I just want to remind everyone I had really bad baloney last night. So, like, I'm going to blow any second. Are you sure you want to be here for that?
C
Let's cut to the chase. Because I'm about to shit myself. Okay, what do you want? Like, well, you know, Mike, you, like, letting my medical history out there. That really wasn't cool. And we need to talk about that. She goes, oh, my God. Like, literally, I'm like, so sorry about it. Like, that's horrible. And I hope I wasn't genuinely apologetic. And I need to be genuinely apologetic. So genuinely, I apologize. And, like, if it didn't come off that way, I'm, like, so sorry. I think I'm pooping right now. Hold on. It's not. It's not.
A
We got 3 minutes and 22 seconds left before this whole thing goes down. So what else? Oh, yeah, here, I'll bring something up. I do want to bring up another thing that I heard through the gay grapevine. You felt I was, like, flirting with Kevin on the trip. Because, like, the Gay Grapevine is my network of queer people, both domestically and internationally, who are my eyes and ears and tell me things. And I did not hear about this news in this country. Everyone. I. This is international gossip. I heard about it from someone who does not live in this country. It's a lifelong commitment to establish a gay grapevine. Fine. The gay grapevine operates, like, above the CIA in terms of functionality. And when you're in. You're in it forever. And I do not reveal my sources within the gay grapevine. I will just say this. This was international gossip from the country of New Jersey.
C
That is why George is my all time favorite.
A
Yeah, she is the star.
C
So Amira's like, well, I mean, like, the way you were, like, speaking to him, and then you're like, touchy feely. And she goes, oh, my God. Because when I heard that my jaw was literally on the. A crow flew in my mouth. Like, it was on the floor. It was. It was terrible. She's like, what?
A
The literal.
C
But never in a million years did it literally cross my mind to literally touch your literal boyfriend, Kevin. Like, literally what? Like, what did I, like, literally touch him? Because literally lit neutrally.
A
Like, literally. Why would I even touch Kevin when I had a hottie like Omar on my side? So Amira's like, well, I did. I did not know if, like, she knew about this. Like, I didn't know she knew this. Like, I didn't think that was that big of a deal, which is why I never brought it up. But, like, if I did have a problem with her for that specific reason, like, she would definitely, like, no. So George is like, genuinely. It did not ever, ever, Never, ever, ever, ever Ever, ever, ever cross my mind. It's not like tariffs, okay? It is not on my mind. I do not think of Kevin all the time, okay?
C
I mean, Kevin never.
A
I don't even know who would date that guy. Am I right?
C
She's like, okay, well, I appreciate that. Thank you. And she tells us, okay, well, inviting her was charity enough, and that was my good karma for the year. So at this point, I'm washing my hands of her. Someone's gotta wash her hands in this place. Seriously.
A
So then Gia is looking around. She goes, is that the infamous Liam? So she meets. She meets Liam. Liam's like, oh, yeah, she's cute. No, Liam is not. Not interested. So Amira's like, oh, my God, is that shy? Shy? Are you actually wearing this horse costume? That's, like, creepy. And then Ariana is like, oh, my God, So funny. So then Brooks is, like, seeing Charlie and Hudson walk in together. I, like, was happy having acid reflux.
C
Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, my God, it's Charlie. It's Charlie here. What are we gonna do? It's Charlie, and it's here with Hudson and the horse. So Hudson's like, yeah, Ariana and I, we've been together since we were babies, so of course we're gonna hug. You know, I just wasn't emotionally growing or, like, working on myself or, like, wanting to do anything because I'm a billionaire. So, you know, I really got to look into that maybe, like, doing a little more.
A
And I don't know.
C
What was I saying?
A
And he's.
C
Yeah, he's still acting like her boyfriend. He's like, oh, you look so pretty. Oh, God. Trying to be respectful and not grab your butt.
A
She's like, well, you're not allowed to, so don't. She's like, it's complicated because, like, I love this person, and I care about this person so deeply, and I pray for him, like, every night and pray for him to surround himself with the right people. And, like, I don't understand why the. He's friends with Charlie. Like, yeah, like. Like the guy who wanted to my girlfriend last year. So then Hudson is. He's like, yeah, it's kind of like taking everything in me not to kiss you right now. She's like, gross.
C
So everyone else is making small talk. GS Gia sees Charlie and checks in with him, and she's like, I feel like there's an elephant in the room a little bit. He's like, yeah, yeah, I can't talk about that, but it's all good. Okay. Day and so he says, anything beyond, you know, like, I can't talk about that, guys. Like, it's too much. I don't want to be like. Like, my freedom isn't worth an edit. You know what I mean? It's a pretty big deal. Crypto torture.
A
Yeah. J's like, don't talk to me about that. Both my parents went to jail. By the way, your phantom power is crackling right now at the moment. So Charlie's like, she's. Yeah, for sure. It's gone. It's gone. Beautiful. Beautiful. So Ava says, New York is always going to have a scandal. Unfortunately, the scandal's hitting really close to home. And of course, the scandal I'm talking about is Teresa following me, then unfollowing me. George is like, I mean, I do not want this person around me. I do not with this person, and I do not really care what happens to them.
C
So George is like, I gotta go. Bye. I gotta go. Seriously, I'm glad we talked to Mira. And she's, like, sending same. So she leaves. And then Cooper is asking Liam if he's dating anybody. And, guys, we're all lucky Liam is single and he's looking for women. Okay? So Ava goes, yeah, I asked him if he wanted to kiki earlier, and he didn't know what that meant. So he's definitely straight.
A
Liam's like, I thought she said, are you kinky? And I was like, like, whoa, whoa. I just met you. Whoa. So Ariana's like, brooks, let's get a shot on you. He's like, if you feed it to me, I'll do it. So they're all doing shots, you know, and, like, having fun and partying. And Liam's asking Ariana like, oh, so you're raised in Atlanta? She's like, yeah, in Alpharetta. I moved there last year. He's like, was it worth it? She's like, yeah, I love it up here. But Hudson comes up and he's like, you need anything else? Because he's still doting on her. Like, he's still her boy, giving her
C
a drink and all. He just bought her a drink and all that stuff.
A
Stuff.
C
And Ava's like, not to make this about me, but this breakup is, like, very awkward. I mean, first they're doing the breakup story, then he's bringing a drink, and then they're still in the same group chat and coming to parties. Like, yeah, if I broke up with someone, he's not catching an invite.
A
Yeah. So then Ariana's, like, saying how she hasn't been able to drink for, like, For Since May because she got a dui and she. Apparently she's saying how she.
C
She.
A
When she got. She got pulled over, she didn't do the breathalyzer, and because she heard that, like, you're not supposed to do that because they don't have it on record.
C
Always say no. Great.
A
Wow. Another. Another good nugget of wisdom coming out of that household.
C
Yeah. And Liam agrees. He's like, oh, no, he doesn't. He goes, well, my dad always says, never give them a reason to ask you to believe Low, right? She's like, yeah, well, whatever. It wasn't true, though. It was all a lie. So the producer says, what do you think about the fact that she's on probation? He's like, I think it's kind of hot.
A
Like, see. See how close he's sitting to Ariana? Look, Liam's so close to Ariana. Tortured Charles. Like, I go, well, go say something. Okay? Go press his ass. He's like, yeah, okay. I mean, you think that Ariana's into that? She. Liam. Stupid.
C
Yeah. So Hudson's getting jealous. He's like, that guy can do whatever he wants. He's a grown man. What do I care? I'm not. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I wonder if he can fry chicken. Probably not. Whatever. Do whatever you want, dude.
A
So how about. How about you try to have Hannah Einbinder's hair also? Okay? See if you could pull it off.
C
So Amira addresses the party, gets. Gives a speech, and then people are dancing on the bar and stuff. And she's like, okay, Nothing good happens at an after party. Look at Charlie's alleged case. Am I right? But I did not have much fun at my birthday because I was working, okay? Now it's the after party. Now I'm gonna have some real fun with my friends.
A
No altruistic tiktoks. The camera is off. So there are, like. Ariana's talking about dogs with Liam and Liam. Liam's. You know, Liam's asking her questions about and everything, and he's saying how he volunteers at shelters every now and then. I'm telling you, there's some sort of going on with this guy. He has too much time to be doing all these things. Like, it doesn't. Something is like. I feel like he's, like, a dilettante who does, like, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, but he's acting like these are all, like, concurrent threads in his life, and I'm telling you, the bottom is going to fall out, the other shoe is going to drop.
C
Ray's just really rich. But it's funny how young people talk because he goes, so you. You have dogs, Ariana? She's like, oh, yeah, I have two. And he goes, what? They. And she goes, they're rescue. It's not a breed. She's like, yeah, they're rescue dogs. I'm a good person. So they're rescued. She says it multiple times. And he's like, oh, well, I volunteer at a rescue place. She's like, oh, my God, you even taught my good person thing. That is pretty hot. It's pretty hot. We're both really good people. So then they go to the next spot, and they're drinking, and Ava and Gia have their talk. And
A
like, well, so stupid.
C
Ava's like, well, I saw your podcast where you said I was a liar. She's like, oh. So then we get a monologue from Ava that's saying she has so much negativity being spread about herself and her family. I mean, when you search my name, the first thing that pops up is ava Dash, evicted. And I don't know when the part if I skipped over it earlier, but she's like, I wasn't even evicted, okay? I was sharing an apartment with my dad, and I was paying my half of the run every month, but my dad, not so much. Like, oh, wow. So your dad. You over. What is it with dads on this network lately?
A
Yeah, that is pretty wild.
C
Geez. Just watched the McBees. Like, is there a dad who's not gonna fuck over their child on this network? That would be great.
A
So now she wants to clear her name from all this. And she's like, you were like, hey, Gia, you said that Ava's a goddamn liar. She goes, no, you said, well, you said that my mom unfollowed you. She goes, yeah, but she didn't. It was like, well, you could just apologize. I think it's fake to say something in the press and then not say it in person. By the way, have they just checked to see if Teresa is following Ava? Because that would help solve some stuff here. It's like if I called you a liar on a podcast, I really don't think you would like it. That's what she was like. Like, I don't know. She's like, you so you. So she's. She's trying to explain to Ariana in the confessional, like, what the whole situation is. And Ariana's like, I thought we were mad at her. And G's like, yeah, we were mad at her because she was rude to us. And Ariana's like, so why is she mad at you? She's like, I. I don't know. I don't understand the fight I'm in.
C
She's like, but when you're coming after my mother, I'm going to call you a liar. She goes, but I didn't come after your mom. You're dragging it. I didn't say anything about you or your mom. Bomb. She goes, well, you're not owning that. You also talk. And Ariana's still like, wait a minute. But we're supposed to be mad at her. Why is she mad at us? Check. I still don't understand.
A
She's so pretty, though. So basically Gia's like, don't talk about my mother. So Ava's like, you can get your point across without yelling. Which is funny because Gia has, like, literally never risen above a monotone in her life. And she is like, yeah, you. You were just yelling, but okay, you want to make me look crazy? Crazy? Go ahead. It's like, I don't. I don't have to make you do anything. You do that all on your own.
C
Meanwhile, no one is yelling or acting crazy. She goes, oh, my God. And Amir is like, whoa. That's really pretty aggressive. Wasn't. What did I miss? I think she's such a silly show. So happy to have it back on my tv.
A
Yeah, I'm excited for Riley to make her return, by the way. That's what this episode was kind of missing. We needed someone to just kind of like, check Charlie a little bit some more.
C
Yeah.
A
But, yeah, it's such a good show. It really is a good show and it moves very quickly and there's so much stuff going on. I felt a little bit like this premiere was them playing catch up and like, be like, hey, this is what's going. This is what's happening in our lives. And I'm excited for as the season goes on, we'll little like to see where this all goes. But yeah, fun times with the kids. Kids.
C
Yeah. Everybody, thanks so much for being here. We'll talk to you next time.
A
Bye.
C
Bye.
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Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam – June 25, 2026
Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive into the splashy Season 2 premiere of Next Gen NYC, Bravo’s Real Housewives-adjacent show following the young, influencer offspring (and friends) of famous families navigating New York drama, scandals, and each other’s pettiness. The hosts praise, roast, and riff their way through a jam-packed episode loaded with edits, cameos (including a flash cameo from themselves), and social media scandals, wryly dissecting the rising fame and foibles of this new Bravo generation.
“It felt more like, like a show show…this time around, it’s like, okay, all the kids are here, they all have issues with each other, but all the issues are sort of, like, really petty and dumb.”
– Ben [02:34]
“This season, last season, we were watching up-and-coming influencers, and this time we’re watching superstars…like, they can’t even walk on the street anymore.”
– Ronnie [03:39]
“I want to know who was the content creator who said, ‘My shitty day just got ten times worse?’”
– Ben [11:07]
“Being an influencer, it’s not your average 9 to 5…laundry baskets wrapped up, sad TikToks, that’s my way of income.”
– Ariana [10:10]
“If your friends are talking badly about you in public, that’s not a good look…this is obviously tearing America apart. This and the tariffs.”
– Ben [38:40]
“Dutch oven? That’s literally where you fart under the blankets…”
– Chloe [07:35]
“We wanted to call it a cunty party but Bravo’s making us call it country, so whatever, Bravo.”
– Amira (quoted by Ben) [51:13]
“Literally, everybody thinks you were involved in that [crypto kidnapping].”
– Ronnie to Charlie [57:19]
“You can get your point across without yelling.”
– Ava to Gia [79:35]
Final Note:
A lively return for both Next Gen NYC and the Watch What Crappens crew, this episode delivers sharp comedic recaps for Bravo fans who live for the generational shift in reality TV drama and self-parody.