#3436 In the City: Dress For Less

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens – Episode #3436 "In the City: Dress For Less"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: July 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Ben and Ronnie dive into the latest shenanigans on Bravo's "In the City," focusing primarily on a chaotic “wedding dinner” that turns into a spectacle of drama, gossip, and relationship confrontations. The hosts mock, praise, and eviscerate the behaviors of the various cast members while also addressing breaking Bravo news (notably involving the Rhode Island Housewives). As always, Ben and Ronnie bring humor and sharp observations, making sense of the reality TV mess with biting wit and affectionate ridicule.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. How Many Weddings Is Too Many?

[01:31–03:23]

• The episode kicks off with debate over Yvonne's seemingly endless wedding festivities.
• Ronnie: “How many weddings do you get? …You ran out of your ‘I’m the bride’ capital a year ago.”
• Ben: Points out the fatigue in friend groups dealing with multiple wedding-related events, gifts, and celebrations.

Notable Quote

"You celebrate the engagement, you celebrate the Pre wedding, you celebrate the bachelor or bachelorette or both... Then you do the wedding. Then you do the divorce party."
— Ronnie, [02:28]

2. Bravo Breaking News: Liz McGraw Leaves Rhode Island

[04:48–08:48]

• The hosts react to news that Liz McGraw is stepping away from "Real Housewives of Rhode Island," speculating on the legal drama involving her husband and best friend, and what this means for the show's dynamics.
• Discussion pivots to casting, villain roles, and the “center pearl” of the show.

Notable Quote

"Maybe she's not worried about negative perceptions...Dino is probably gonna go to jail...I think she's probably protecting herself legally..."
— Ronnie, [06:26]

3. Gossip at Gavin’s Bar: Timeline Sleuthing

[08:56–16:28]

• Gavin's bar (dubbed The Garrett, but looks suspiciously like a Five Guys) becomes the setting for the core mystery: did Owen overlap his marriage and his new relationship with Danielle?
• Lindsay shows how easy it is to find the truth online, embarrassing the men who failed to "Google it."

Memorable Moment

Gavin to Lindsay: “Why don’t you Google Owen? Heavy wedding day. Google that. Google that.”
[14:07]

Notable Quote

“These men are just very dumb. A mother, like a private [investigator]...But then we have Whitney finding the father on Facebook in five minutes.”
— Ronnie, [14:16]

4. The Amanda & Kyle Meltdown — Highs, Lows, & Hash

[31:28–48:00; 56:33–62:20]

• Tensions between Amanda and Kyle are on full display during Yvonne and Nick's wedding dinner. The group probes their relationship status, substance habits, and sleeping arrangements.
• Gavin acts as an unabashed instigator, keeping the drama alive and coaxing confessions.
• Highlights include Amanda’s weed use, Kyle’s late nights, mutual resentment, and side comments from the group.

Memorable Exchanges

"I've never cheated after smoking weed.”
— Amanda, [40:34]

"Typical pothead. Wow. Just all around the place. Wow. Are the police following you? Right? Do you hear helicopters?"
— Ronnie, impersonating Gavin, [41:05]

5. The Great Dress Debacle: Danielle's "White" Dress Outrage

[29:44–47:22]

• Yvonne is incensed that Danielle wore a white (or was it pink?) dress to her latest wedding celebration.
• The group gets caught up in the faux-pas, leading to accusations, apologies, and further tension.
• The hosts lampoon Yvonne’s attempt to manufacture drama and Danielle’s defense.

Notable Quote

"She literally sent you herself where you gave the dress approval, and now you’re gonna try and make it a plot. That’s cold. That’s…third season housewife behavior."
— Ronnie, [45:07]

6. Sleuthing Owen's Relationship Timeline — Group Investigation

[12:28–13:44],[16:46–18:45],[62:20–73:56]

• The group tries to pin down exactly when Owen’s marriage ended and his relationship with Danielle began, leading to a classic Bravo argument about “the timeline.”
• Lindsay’s “Google detective” work exposes discrepancies, while Danielle grows ever more defensive, and Owen is branded as “shifty.”
• The hosts note the double-standard and deflection tactics at play, poking fun at the cast’s inability to simply answer straightforward questions.

Notable Quotes

“I think that Lindsay has actually made people care about the timeline. But if you take a step back, the only reason why they care…is because Lindsay’s just trying to prove this point…”
— Tom, [16:46]

“This is where Danielle says, there’s legal things we cannot talk about. And if you think he’s dodgy, continue that…Because honestly, at this point, I don’t give a…”
— Ronnie, [71:50]

7. Dinner Party Chaos — The Wedding Derails

[36:13–78:13]

• After Yvonne’s speech, what should have been a peaceful dinner spirals as Gavin, Lindsay, and others push Amanda and Kyle (and Danielle and Owen) into awkward, ugly confrontations.
• The “host card” and “bride card” are played to diminishing returns, with the hosts noting both Yvonne’s attention-seeking and Gavin’s provocations.
• The group’s inability to drop old feuds or enjoy the occasion becomes a running joke.

Notable Moments

"Let them fight! …It’s our wedding."
— Nick, [42:33]

“If there’s alcohol in anyone’s glass, please pass it to me."
— Nick, [75:57]

8. Underlying Themes: Hypocrisy, Substance, and Group Dynamics

• Lindsay’s motivations oscillate between genuine concern and self-serving detective work.
• Amanda and Kyle’s toxic codependency is exposed, with the hosts questioning Amanda’s selective openness.
• Danielle and Owen’s defensiveness points to potential "messy divorce" PR management rather than actual scandal.
• The dinner amplifies everyone’s worst behaviors — from Yvonne’s main-character syndrome to Gavin’s pot-stirring.

Notable Exchanges

"Why are you on the show then…if you want to hide everything?"
— Lindsay, [68:38]

"She doesn’t want me to be in a good place. It’s definitely the most turbulent friendship I’ve ever had.”
— Danielle, [75:26]

9. Setups for Next Episode: Friendsgiving in Connecticut

[76:49–78:13]

• Lindsay and Kenny propose a group trip for “Friendsgiving,” foreshadowing more mayhem and unresolved issues carrying into the next group event.
• Yvonne dismayed at losing the spotlight for her own event.

Notable Quote

“You literally just hijacked our entire night. You literally just fought with every single person and now you’re making announcement about your weekend.”
— Yvonne, [77:33]

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• On wedding fatigue:
  “You ran out of your ‘I’m the bride’ capital a year ago.” — Ronnie, [01:27]

• On Bravo drama escalation:
  “It’s a reality show…it was the best episode of the City so far. And…it was him. He was literally like, okay, that’s done, okay, step back, please. We’re going back to Amanda possibly being a drug addict.” — Ronnie, [49:13]

• On investigating Owen:
  “We just wanted to make sure you weren’t oblivious to whatever was going on. Yeah, I just started over basic confusion, like, how long is he married? Married?” — Kenny, [64:13]

• On showmanship at dinners:
  “Yvonne, I’m so sorry, but you and Nick are not the most exciting couple. And nobody wants to hear it from you two.” — Ronnie, [61:01]

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Segment Timestamps

• 01:31 – How many wedding events is too many?
• 04:48 – Breaking news: Liz McGraw leaves RH Rhode Island
• 08:56 – At Gavin's Bar: stirring up Owen's timeline
• 13:44 – The group “Googles” for answers on Owen
• 31:28 – Wedding dinner arrivals and fashion debate
• 40:34 – Amanda and Kyle’s relationship blowup
• 45:07 – Dress drama: “Is it pink or is it white?”
• 64:00 – Group confronts Danielle and Owen about timeline
• 68:38 – Lindsay and Danielle’s friendship erupts
• 76:49 – ‘Friendsgiving’ Connecticut trip setup

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Final Thoughts

Ben and Ronnie agree this was the most entertaining episode so far this season, with the dinner-party bottleneck format allowing simmering tensions to boil over in spectacular fashion. Gavin’s overzealous meddling, the Amanda/Kyle toxicity, Yvonne’s “bride-zilla” routine, and the whole Owen/cheating timeline merged into peak Bravo chaos — much to the hosts’ delight.

For Listeners

If you missed the episode, this summary gives you all the tea, from the petty to the profound. Tune in next time for what is sure to be a tumultuous Friendsgiving.

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Next Episode: Friendsgiving in Connecticut. Drama inevitable.
Hosts' Signoff: Ben and Ronnie wish listeners a happy 4th, teasing more Bravo madness upon their return.

Transcript

[Tom]

Watch what happens. Watch what crap is. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens.

[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to what what Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

[Ben]

Hi.

[Tom]

How's it going?

[Ben]

Good.

[Ronnie]

Everybody, welcome to the show and happy almost July 4th. We will be off next week. It's our yearly week off for July 4th. Take it every year. So excited. Hope you guys are gonna have fun. We sure are. See ya, suckers. Thank you so much for being here for in the City today as usual. If you want this recap on video, you can get that as well as our bonus episodes. Today is going to be a Love island bonus episode. Catching up on craziness. You also get a Discord server to chat with each other. There's a free newsletter that anybody can sign up for and get every week that I write making fun of all these shows in writing. And there's also ad free listening over there. So thanks for everybody who is a Patreon member. And even if you're not for being here and listening. We appreciate it. And now it is in the city time

[Tom]

in the city.

[Ronnie]

How many weddings do you get? That's my question.

[Tom]

That's a great question.

[Ronnie]

There are millions of weddings. It's my wedding. You've already been married. I already sent you a gift you don't get.

[Tom]

Yeah, that was something. It was something that occurred to me in this episode. I mean, I think this, I think that Yvonne had a right to be really annoyed that people were fighting incessantly at her, like, wedding dinner. Like, the point is that she did make a really nice. Arrange a really nice meal at this restaurant. It's like a good restaurant too. And like, it is frustrating that it was not for her, that it was not celebratory. I get it. But yeah, you did already have like a full fledged, like, real deal wedding down in Mexico. So, like the whole I'm the bride thing, it sort of is. It. It did strike me as feeling a little bit old at this point. Like, I think you kind of like ran out of your I'm the bride capital a year ago.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you ran out of it a year ago. This is. As a person who obviously is not married and never will be married, who goes to weddings. And you know, when you're, when you're that person in your friend group, a wedding's great. And I'm like, so happy for my friends. But you celebrate the engagement, you celebrate the Pre wedding, you celebrate the bachelor or bachelorette or both. Then you celebrate the coming to town thing. What is it for friends and family the night before? Then you do the wedding. Then you do the divorce party. Okay. Then you do it all over again. Oh, then you do the babies. Well, I guess the babies. Whichever. Whichever order those come in, depending on your friends, it's a lot of gifts to buy somebody. So when somebody's like, I'm going to do another wedding, it's just a dinner, but it's still a wedding, and I'm going to wear a dress and call it my wedding. You ran out. That's what I say.

[Tom]

Yeah. At a certain point, it's like, it's. It's over. It's done.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. It's my wedding.

[Tom]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

How about that?

[Tom]

You can't. You can't pull that card anymore. You can't pull that card. But I think what you can pull is the, hey, I just paid for this really nice dinner for you guys. So, yeah, shut up and let's enjoy it. That's a great card to pull. And she has every right to pull that one.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she's like, shut up and tell stories about me. I love. It was a great episode. It was really, really funny. And I think it showed the cast kind of firing on all cylinders. And also, most valuable player award, the most controversial person here. Gavin. Ye. Yeah, that's my guy. Love you.

[Tom]

Oh, I thought you were gonna. I thought you were gonna say the redheaded lady who was stuck at the end of the table, who was on camera the entire time, who was like, oh, my God, how do I quietly get out of this. Out of this party?

[Ronnie]

She was what I call the face of anybody stuck to Danielle. Stuck next to Danielle all night.

[Tom]

She was like, really? She was sort of. She sort of reminded me of Angie Everhart. She was just there, just like, wow. It's bad enough that I get stuck at the end of the table next to Danielle, and now you guys are all fighting about some. And that's. And I'm on camera. My bad side, too, by the way. I'm not even comfortable with this side of me being on camera. Thanks a lot.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Getting stuck next to Danielle at a really long fighting evening. Not. Not good. Although Danielle was not wrong in this episode.

[Tom]

I agree. I think Danielle. I actually think that Danielle handled herself quite well. And what was. What was another show we were watching recently where there was issues about overlap and wedding? Well, there was. There was Rhode Island. Oh, by the way, big Rhode island news today. I'M I'm too lazy to hit the

[Ronnie]

sound effects, but tell me somebody died again. Okay. It's your favorite thing to do. It's like we start a recap and you're like, yes, you died. And now guess what? You might as well be announcing a death.

[Tom]

Well, Liz McGraw, the center. What do they hold? Seashells, Oysters? Slices? Oysters.

[Ronnie]

No, Pearls.

[Tom]

Pearls. Rhode Island. She's stepping away. She's leaving the show. There were rumors. There were rumors, and she, she confirmed them today.

[Ben]

Like, I'm stepping away.

[Tom]

Big disappointment.

[Ronnie]

I wish everybody from this other best, but, you know, unfortunately, everybody thinks I'm a little scary. So I just want to go by

[Tom]

saying

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna miss her very much. I loved her best one season housewife of all time there.

[Tom]

She really, I, I, I can't, I really can't believe she's doing this. Maybe she'll be back in a future season, but I think she couldn't handle it. She could not handle the any negative perceptions about herself. And that is, it's too bad, because the truth was,

[Ronnie]

maybe she's not worried about negative perceptions. Dino is probably gonna go to jail. It looks like her best friend and her and her husband and their mystery boat that was gone, you know, doing something three weeks out of the month. I mean, I think she's probably protecting herself legally and coming back to the show and having all these people with this, I mean, Joe Allen, having Joe Ellen coming at you all season with receipts on this stuff. Yeah. I think that legally she's just like,

[Tom]

yeah, maybe, or, or even, even if, like, legally it wasn't. Maybe even if it weren't that it could be adjacent. Like she could have gotten wind that Joellen was going to come hard for Liz about her relationship with Dino, and

[Ronnie]

she probably gonna go to prison for. Of course Joel's gonna be up her ass about that. Yeah, right.

[Tom]

Yeah. Joanne, will 100 be up her ass. It'll be like season two of Salt Lake City with Mary Cosby and how they all were up Mary Cosby's ass about having a cult. So, yeah, she probably was just cutting that off at the past. But it's a real shame because Liz was great. She was great. Whether you liked her or hated her, she was still like, very much the center of that show. I don't know. Do you think they reposition Joellen as the new center of the show? I mean, she really came up. She was so ascendant after that reunion. I, I don't think that Alicia, Alicia is so funny. And everyone loves Alicia, but is she really center? She seems so. She's so sort of out there. It's hard to give her, like, center Pearl.

[Ronnie]

I think Jo Ellen is already kind of center, don't you? I mean, I think.

[Tom]

I think she'll now be like.

[Ronnie]

She's definitely the most popular. I mean, this is a very popular cast. Liz was the villain, you know, and so I think, if anything, they're. They're gonna need to find a new villain. Unless they light a fire into rulers ass to really give us something, you know, which could happen. But, yeah, they're gonna have to do some new casting, but I have faith in them because everybody that's been on that show has been completely looney Tunes. So they've got. They've got good ground to pull from,

[Tom]

and there'll be plenty of people.

[Ronnie]

We're talking about farming. Okay. Yeah, they got good land to hoe there in Rhode island, so I look forward to the new crop, but God damn it, Liz, I'm gonna miss you. I love you. I'm gonna get a poster of Liz and put it in my room. I love her.

[Tom]

Yeah, you should do that. You should do that in a great tribute, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Oh, wow. So that's like.

[Ronnie]

Dolores, get out of my room. Okay, so we are at the City City. Episode seven, Season one, Episode seven, you only get married twice. We start at Gavin's bar. It's called the Garrett, but it looked like a five guys to me. I mean, it says five guys on the outside. And when we went inside and there was a full bar, I was like, wow, five guys is really up their game.

[Tom]

Really? I know, right? I love five guys. Very excited for this pop up in the back here. So, yeah, we're. We're at the Garrett, and Lindsay is talking to the bartender whose name is Destiny, and she's like, destiny, what kind

[Ben]

of gossip and tea can you give me on Gavin?

[Tom]

And he's like, I don't want to be fun employed just yet. So nothing.

[Ronnie]

So Gavin comes and he's doing his. Hey, hey, hey, it's me, Gavin. Pretty busy. What are we gonna stir up here? Okay, what have we got going on? Whose lives do you want to ruin today? I'm here, okay? Bring me someone. I will question the person that's, like, his mission in this and every episode. And he does it very well. And he always acts like he's got somewhere to be. You know, he's like, all right, I've got 10 minutes. I've got 10 minutes. What do we Need. What do we need to do here? Let's throw some shit at the wall.

[Tom]

He definitely sort of has the vibe of like a character in a play, you know, like, or sitcom. Like the neighbor. The wacky neighbor next door who's like, come on, we gotta go to the show tonight. It's like, I can't. I gotta stay in and do my homework.

[Ben]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Tom]

We gotta go to the show. It's the only time they'll be playing, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, the information dropper. Kind of like the narrative leader. So they're gossiping. Well, they're talking about, you know, small. They're talking small talk. And then he talks about boys night. And he's like, oh, some shit went down at boys night. And then Kyle comes and she's like, oh, my God, here's Kyle. Stop talking about him.

[Tom]

So, like, no, no, keep going, keep going. This guy Gavin loves talking, you know? And so Kyle, he basically, he orders a drink, cuz not. Not with Mezcal. Or he says, no, no spice, because his stomach's going through something. He's going through a sensitive stomach situation.

[Ben]

You had the shits.

[Tom]

It's like, yeah, I wasn't trying to be. I was trying to be coy and swap.

[Ben]

You've got a poop out of your. That's what you got to do. You gotta just like explosive diarrhea everywhere.

[Tom]

He's like, yeah, trying to be delicate.

[Ronnie]

Okay. And then Kenny comes in, he's got new hair. Cornrows on him too, actually. And he's like, wow. This guy's like, whoa, I gotta go get my hair done.

[Tom]

Yeah, Kyle's gonna get.

[Ronnie]

I like Kyle just always states the obvious, but in a exclamation. Yeah. Wow. This guy. What is he like, I gotta go get my hair cut. So, Gavin, I need to go get my hair cut.

[Tom]

Yup.

[Ronnie]

That's a lot of self question and answers this episode too.

[Tom]

He does.

[Ronnie]

Was I the best husband? No. Did I ever cheat on Amanda? Maybe? Do I really enjoy walking on the sunny side of the street? No. Because I care about my skin. Sorry, what was it talking about? I don't know.

[Tom]

He's from the Shannon Mador school of, you know, rhetorical questions, just a platonic method on herself. Or is it the Socratic? So then, so basically there's Kenny starts talking about Owen. He's just like, yeah, let's get right into this. Can we talk about Owen? Okay. He's like, I want to talk about Owen. Or actually, Gavin is like, yeah, let's let's talk about Owen, because a boy's night, etc, and they want to. They're still really hung up on, when did Owen get out of his marriage and when did he start getting with Danielle? And was there overlap?

[Ronnie]

Yes. And it's funny that Kenny is also here pushing for details because Kenny's the one who's like, oh, my God, why details at the time? And he's like, yeah. I mean, we're just basically asking him the basics of it. When did you file? You know, when was the wedding day? And they're like, yeah, Owen seems really shifty and shady and wouldn't answer anything. And Kyle's like, yeah, I think it's being, like, purposely, like, service level. And then we cut to Owen and Danielle out having a night or having a pint, rather. And she's like, you know what really makes things difficult? Owen? Wanting to have babies with you when you're still married. Yeah, Danielle. I mean, it's not a crime to wait, you know? Although they just did have their baby in real life, so congrats.

[Tom]

Yeah, congratulations. She's ready to start planning for the future. So we go back to the Garrett and Lindsay's. Lindsay says, all I know is that

[Ben]

if I was like, a. Like a girl's night, we would have, like, gone to the bottom of it real quick. Because you guys are confused as.

[Tom]

And Kenny's like, well, no, I mean, that's why we need you to do all this stuff. She's like. And Lindsay's like.

[Ben]

And I'm. I'm confused because of you.

[Tom]

So Gavin's like, why don't you Google Owen? Heavy wedding day. Google that. Google that. I'm like, why did none of these guys do this already? I think they just want to do

[Ronnie]

it because Google it's so funny. The men just don't understand it. I don't know, is that a man thing? You just don't look things up. But we.

[Tom]

These men are just very dumb.

[Ronnie]

A mother, like a private. I couldn't even find the father. But then we have Whitney finding the father on Facebook in five minutes.

[Tom]

Whitney, last week.

[Ronnie]

Yes, Whitney. All people. Yes, Whitney. The spinning beach ball was the one who figured out Google. And then we have Lindsay, like, can we just Google it, dear?

[Tom]

Yeah, it's like, it's not really that hard. But part of me also thinks that the guys kind of want, like, Lindsay to get her hands dirty. They're like, well, she's used to getting onto these messes so she can do it for us, and then she can Take the heat. So Lindsay's looking up Owen on her phone, and this is the hairdresser who posted the wife.

[Ronnie]

And she said, last week I had the pleasure of flying to Marbella. To Marbella to look after my board, my gorgeous client. And Kenny's like, Marbella

[Tom]

KE. Barbea as seen on what? Isn't that where they went to on Real Housewives of Miami last year to visit the gays to get, like, their blessing as, like, godfathers or something like that? Right. Wasn't that in Marbella Barbell?

[Ronnie]

So Lindsay finds out in two seconds, which is pretty good. And Gavin's like, give me a date there. She's like, June 20, 2013. He goes, okay, but wait. Kenny's like, okay, but what does that mean? She's like, wait, that was two years ago. So, like, wait a minute. Didn't he say he's married for four years? Oh, he did say he's married four years. And then we see a flashback to owen being like, four years.

[Tom]

So the wedding was in June 2023, but he was claiming that the wedding was in 2021. If I'm. If I'm to follow this very simple timeline. Right.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Tom]

Okay, so this is what they've discussed, honestly.

[Ronnie]

Just sounds like they got married at city hall and then they had a wedding later is what it. That would be my.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Thing to jump to. Right. Like, Yvonne and Nick, they had a. They had a wedding and then they had a city hall wedding two years later. So it's. It's funny that it's so crazy to everybody in this episode where it's literally happening with another couple in reverse. It's, you know.

[Tom]

Yeah, it is. And honestly, like, I don't think anyone would care. I don't think anyone, like, who cares, because he's. He's ending that relationship he's getting with Danielle. I mean, they're trying to basically suggest that Danielle was the other woman. I. I have a hard time believing that Danielle would, Would. Would do that. I just don't think that's, like, her vibe whatsoever. But I think the, the crux of this is that Danielle had a lot of things to say about Lindsay's relationships. Whether she was going too fast, etc. This was the whole. There's the whole issue why they had a falling out coming into the season, and Lindsay is just dead set on proving that Danielle is a hypocrite. I think that's all that this is. And I think that now people are, like, starting to start to think, like, wow, what is that timeline what was that timeline? Because I think that Lindsay has actually made people care about the timeline. But if you take a step back, the only reason why they care about the timeline is because Lindsay's just trying to prove this point so well.

[Ronnie]

And the fact that this came out. Yeah, gossip, you know, this came out on, like, Bravo and cocktails or wherever. So it was a story that Danielle started the season being so upset that she's being accused of this thing. So Danielle kind of brought it up. And then Amanda, of course, is honor ass about it, because Amanda doesn't like Danielle. And then you've got Lindsay, who also has her own reasons. But the fact is, you're on a reality show and you probably did. That man probably did cheat on his wife. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily put it down past Danielle. I wouldn't put it past most people, and I certainly would not put it past Owen. I mean, that guy seems shifty as fuck after last week's. Yeah. So I wouldn't really put it past anybody. I mean, I guess I get why they wouldn't say, like, yeah, we met, he wasn't happy, we fell in love, whatever. But I think that sometimes the best way to shut it down is eventually what she does at the end where she's like, it's none of your business. I met this man, we're in love, and that's it. You're my friends. Just say. Just say that's it. You know?

[Tom]

Exactly. Because that's also what Lindsay would do.

[Ronnie]

It's time for a commercial. It's time for a grapplings commercial.

[Ben]

Lindsay tells us, even though Danielle and I have a dysfunctional friendship, I still care about Danielle and I still want to make sure she's protecting herself. And I don't know this guy, and I know that he makes her happy. But I'm going to do research on the back end.

[Tom]

The moment when someone says, I still care about this person, that's always like the. I actually don't care that much. I just want to do something shady and I want to be protected from being accused of doing something shady. So I'm going to say I'm doing it under the guise I care. So. But by the way. And don't. I will also say this. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world that Lindsay, like, looked up some basic stats on Owen on her phone in the bar while they were talking about him. You know, really gets, like, whipped up into being this thing. Like, she did hire a PI and she did do A crazy investigation into him. She was literally just, like, sitting in a bar on her phone, like, did a simple cursory search. And I don't think that's, like, the worst thing in the world, but I still do think that it's funny how Lindsay is like, I'm doing this because I care about her.

[Ronnie]

Well, people are allowed to Google. Sorry. Yeah. And Danielle keeps getting upset that people are talking about the. The story. Well, it was on the Internet. They all subscribed to that. They all subscribe to it. They also. Of course they're gonna talk about it, as you would, too. And then she gets mad that they were texting about it, like, Danielle, sorry.

[Tom]

And again, this is Danielle who weighed in on that. That tabloid piece. And. And you know, about Lindsay and Carl. So she really is not one to talk.

[Ronnie]

And wrote the tabloid piece about Craig getting kicked out of that wedding.

[Tom]

Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. So anyway, Kenny's like, I've got a great PI that'll solve this in 2.2 seconds, literally. And Gavin goes, it's Whitney. And he's like, yeah, that was.

[Ronnie]

I was gonna say, yeah, Kenny, you don't have a PI that can solve. Kenny's PI Was like, well, it's. Here's. Here's the thing. What's his name? Okay. There is a 70 chance that that is a person. I'll call you in two weeks. What? What's a person? Two weeks later, there is a 37 chance. This person is not a waterfall. Okay, Send me a Venmo. I'll try. Whitney's like this. I'm going off Facebook.

[Tom]

So basically, Kenny tells Lindsay how he was not in contact with his dad for 25 years or so, and he decided to. To find his dad, and Whitney basically found him right away by going on to Facebook. So that's so like, oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

You guys should talk to each other, because she doesn't talk to her mom, and you didn't talk to your dad. You guys should. You guys should talk about it. And so she tells him, yeah, she hasn't talked to her mom for years, and she didn't talk to her eight years before that. And she doesn't have a relationship with her. And she does. She has no in making that happen. But she'll get together with. For a candy scene. Why not? For free lunch.

[Tom]

Yeah. So, yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna have a talk, and they're gonna, like, dive deeper into all this stuff. Now we go to Gramercy park, and we're At Nick and Yvonne's apartment. And Nick has just poured some limoncello from that her that Yvonne's mom brought from Italy, and they're toasting to wedding planning.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And she's saying, you know, like, I was laid off. And it was, like, the hardest thing ever, Because I was, like, the person that you go to if you have a party in New York. But now I'm not that person. So I'm going to plan a party for myself. So it can still feel like I'm the eminent party planner in New York City. It's what I do. It brings me to life. The last thing I'm doing when I get laid off is going to wait a table to feel better about myself. I'm not gonna do it.

[Tom]

I'm not gonna do it.

[Ronnie]

But she is. And she's gonna make them a really nice wedding party. So they're talking about who they're gonna invite and stuff like that. So then we go, well, by the way, she's.

[Tom]

She's. She's really doing this to be like, hello, America. I am a party planner. Look at the party I just put together. This is my resume. Hire me.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well, God, really, you got to sell it when you're on tv. So then we go to softball.

[Tom]

That's right.

[Ben]

Softball. Softball.

[Ronnie]

People are green. Leather jacket. Now it's Soft Bar. Welcome. It's soft Bar.

[Tom]

Green. Well, so far, Big night for Carl's on TV last night.

[Ronnie]

Whoa.

[Tom]

Yeah. Here I am. People are like, hey, Carl's not on the city. Well, guess what? I'm on the city. This is my stuff launch. So it's Kyle and Carl. They're sitting at the bar at soft bar. There's a lot of people there. There's this one girl who's sitting next to Carl at the bar alone, and she's on her phone, and you can see she feels so uncomfortable because she's like, I'm directly in the shot, aren't I? And I, I. I don't want to step away because I'm committed to the continuity of this scene. But I really don't want to be here anymore. How can I get away from this bar right now? I'm on camera. I can't do anything. Just be cool. Be chill. Be chill.

[Ronnie]

You didn't want to be there. Oh, my gosh. I felt like she was posing. Like I am on camera. Not looking at the camera, of course. Like any of us would be.

[Tom]

I'd be like, I'm listening in.

[Ronnie]

I don't care. Give me my Drink. I'm not leaving this bar. I'm on tv. Well, either way, looking right in the camera like, it was a great. That softball green he's wearing. It's leather. I'm feeling. I'd be feeling it. It's real leather.

[Tom]

It's a great night for people being stuck in the. In. In the frame like NPCs, basically. But yeah, so she. So they're sitting down and they're talking to. Talk about things. And Carl's like, hey. Well, first there's a tribute to New Jersey where Kyle's like, there he is. Haul this guy. There is. There he is. Oh, my baby. Oh, my God. Well, I love seeing you here in the place that you didn't invest in. Oh, look at your return on investment, which is zero because he put zero in in the first place. Welcome.

[Ronnie]

All right, what are we going to talk about here?

[Tom]

That's right.

[Ronnie]

Your relationship with Amanda. Everybody's obsessed. Are you in love with Amanda, yes or no? It's really important. I want everybody to have to think about this 40 hours a week. Okay, so what, Are you in love or not? And he's like, well, we only know you love her, but you do anything for her. She's a great girl. She's a great girl, but are you in love with her? Are you in love?

[Tom]

This is like, the question that's been plaguing Kyle for a few episodes now. Are you in love? Are you in love? And so Carl is just like, they're talking about the whole thing, and. And so. So Carl's like, well, we all know, like, you love her, and I know you would do anything for her, but are you in love with her? And part of me, if I were in your shoes, would fight to the death h. And do whatever I had to do to not let that slip away. Here's what it would look like. Come at me, bro. Come at me, bro. I'm fighting for Amanda, bro. Oh, come on, man. Come on, me, bro. That's what I would. Fighting for the death would look like for Amanda.

[Ronnie]

I mean, you've been pretty unhappy, but, like, I'm giving your hearts. The world will not end, okay? No matter what happens, no matter what happens, you can always come to Saw Par and get a film party. That's right. That's right. So he says after the breakup with him and Lindsay, you know, Kyle was there, but, like, it was hard because, like, I was the bad guy, and that really sucked.

[Tom]

Yeah, I wasn't even running marathons then. And so Kyle's like, I just want what's best for me, what's best for her. Because, like, right now, it is what would be best for me right now. We got some booze in these drinks, Carl. I mean, come on. I mean, they're soft, and then they're soft. Can we get, like, a little bit of vodka in this thing? Oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

Carl's like, yeah, you know, like, I was a villain and all these horrible things were said about me. But at the end of the day, you get soft bar for soft, and the truth comes out, and everybody's going to see the truth, so don't you worry. Okay?

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Lindsay's on the city. Yep. I don't know. I don't know what you mean.

[Tom]

He's like, don't you.

[Ronnie]

Don't you worry everybody's gonna know that? I don't know. People still pretty much Stan, Lindsay. Although Carl is doing much better, I think, with public perception lately.

[Tom]

He is. He is. Oh, he's. He's recovered. Everyone's back to being like, oh, my God. Sweet Carl. So now we're we speaking of Lindsay. We go to this Italian restaurant where Lindsay and Kenny are going to talk about abandonment issues. So Kenny's talking about how he hired this PI, and he's like, this guy's digging up all this information. I'm not, like, getting anywhere with this. And then Whitney just, like, kicks into high gear.

[Ben]

Wait, she has a high gear?

[Tom]

I did not know that that existed for her. It's like, yeah. And then she's like, hold on, we got it. And she went on to Facebook. Turns out the PI just didn't go onto Facebook. It's. Facebook is so barren these days that not even PIs remember to go onto it.

[Ben]

Wow.

[Ronnie]

It's like, that is so fascinating. So anyway, my mom's a real. And she's selfish. And so she tells her mom's story again to him, which we've. Most of the audience has heard. But she talks about how when she and her brother were young, like 2 and 3, her mom was just like, I can't do it anymore, and abandoned them, basically. And, you know, when she's been rejected by the biological parent, you know, who chose to have her, it's up. And he's like, yeah, but you have to think about how that's impacted you. And sometimes, you know, like, forgiving can make you feel better. He's like, I feel lighter now. I feel great. Yeah.

[Tom]

He's kind of like, do this with me. Do this with me. And she's like, no, I'M not doing this. And then. But now the new layer people do together. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You know, well, now he wants to be forgiving. A shitty parent is like for. For. For each person on their own time. But it's nice to see them have a nice scene together.

[Tom]

Yeah. And her new layer to all this is that now that she has a baby, she's like, I just can't even imagine abandoning my baby. So, like, the fact that she would do that to me, it's just, like, shocking. So she's getting. She's getting teary eyed, and so he gives her a napkin and she's like,

[Ben]

I'm gonna get pink eye. So they.

[Tom]

They have a nice scene where they actually don't hate each other by the end of it. And now we go over to Times Square and we are at Dilly Dilly, which is where Yvonne and Nick are going to celebrate their wedding for the third time.

[Ronnie]

So everybody's coming in and saying hi and stuff, and Kyle comes in. I thought it was a marijuana jacket. Was it a fairy jacket? What was all over, you know, jacket?

[Tom]

The gold. At first I thought it was a marijuana jacket, but then I thought, I think it might be. Is it Gucci that has the bees

[Ronnie]

or are they bees?

[Tom]

I think they were. I think it was a Gucci suit. I'm trying to look it up.

[Ronnie]

It looked like he was gonna host New Year's Eve somewhere, but he checked.

[Tom]

I'm not a fashion gay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm not a fashion gay. I don't know. I was squinting, though. I was like, hey, is that. Is that jacket on Amazon?

[Tom]

Oh, it's. I think I found it. Okay. It is gross. Venur peak tux jacket. I don't think it's. Here it is.

[Ronnie]

How'd you find that so fast?

[Tom]

I did a search and I said suit with bees on it, and it popped right up. Grosvenor. Grosvenor. It's. It's a. A.

[Ronnie]

It's a.

[Tom]

It's not Gucci at all.

[Ronnie]

We've done a test.

[Tom]

It is not Gucci. We found it. We found it. It is not Gucci at all. But that's. That's the update. It's actually just a cheap, cheap jacket, not Gucci.

[Ronnie]

So people start showing up at this wedding party thing, and Nick's like, oh, hey, hey, Lindsay. Hottest wedding witness in town. It's like, oh, my God, Iman. I am dead. Might be your best wedding dress yet. It's amazing. Cannot wait until your fifth wedding. It's gonna look amazing. So people come In Amanda is like, hi, Kyle.

[Tom]

Well, because Kyle walks in, cuz Kyle

[Ronnie]

just doesn't see her or ignores her. When he walks in, he goes right to the bar.

[Tom]

So then she's like, hi, Gu.

[Ben]

Hi, Guile. Oh.

[Tom]

Oh my God. I mean, it's. You should go up to your wife first. But like, you guys literally just had the most vicious fight. And then she's like, hi.

[Ben]

Hi. Hi.

[Tom]

I'm like, oh, my God. It's exhausting.

[Ronnie]

They're both so exhausting. Because he's also got a pattern of being like, I didn't even see you. He does it all the time. It's like the second or third time he's done it on this show. We're just like, hi. So she tells us things are intense, but we've always been committed to trying not to make it awkward for anyone around us. Since when? What are you talking about? It's been 10 years of you making things awkward. Both of you.

[Tom]

What is she even saying? What part of you calling across the group going, hi, Kyle. Hi, Kyle. Well, since when is that a commitment to not making it awkward for everyone around you? Since when has anything been a commitment towards that?

[Ronnie]

We've always been committed to trying not to make it awkward. Okay, so she's like, but tonight is the money funny, Nick. And not about us. So then Kenny and Whitney and Danielle and Owen come in, and Danielle comes in and what looks like a white dress, and Yvonne is immediately not having it. She's like, did you see that Danielle is wearing white? How could she do this? How could she do this? This is my wedding and she's wearing white.

[Ben]

The fashion queen wore a white dress at my wedding.

[Tom]

And so Lexi is like, but is it pink or is it white? And Danielle's like, it's pink. It's pink. It's called, like, you know. You know, there's like a group called blackpink. This is called White Pink. And actually it's just white. But like, it. If you. If you aim a pink light at it, it becomes pink, which is what's cool about it. It has pink potential, but it's white. But I call it pink.

[Ronnie]

And Yvonne's like, is this girl okay? I mean, I know you want to get married, but this is not your wedding, okay? This is not your night. I'm the bride. Did you forget that? Did you forget that?

[Tom]

I'm just, like, trying to, like, let it go because it, like, really does not matter. And Georgina's like, well, how do we make you feel better? Do you want me to tell a story about how I melted chocolate in my son's diaper again to resemble poop that he wanted to sit in. Does that make you feel better?

[Ronnie]

My son made a bowling ball today out of his own poop. Should I tell everybody about that? Oh, my God. She's wearing white to my wedding. So Danielle sees Lindsay, but Lindsay's not like, oh, my God. So she's like, oh, my God, she's being cold again. Like, barely said hi to me. Like, why am I even trying so hard? Why am I trying so hard? It's like, yeah, I saw that.

[Tom]

I thought we were past a lot of things, Lindsay and I. But it got back to me that Lindsay's been Googling Owen and his marital relationship and the dates that had happened. Like, why? I have no idea. I'm like, you're the. I'm sorry. You're the one who wants to be friends with Lindsay. Lindsay's always been like this. You cannot be shocked. Like, you're the one who's decided to go towards the disaster. And then you're upset that there's a disaster there.

[Ronnie]

And of course, the producers are like, wait, how did you find out that. That they were even Googling? And then it cuts to Gavin. He's like, well, I don't know if I told her. I don't know. But if I did. I don't know. I was thinking it, but I don't know if I said it or not. Of course I was Gavin. Messy ass Gavin.

[Tom]

He's so messy. He's messy. I don't know. I actually don't know if I. I really love Gavin. He's like, messy in a way. I'm just like, oh, you're kind of a dick. So then Danielle is like, well, you haven't even gotten to know Owen yet, and you want to start amateur sleuthing on the Internet? Call him out for something that you think you know, like, oh, relax. Just a Google search. Come on, Danielle.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So now they go upstairs. It's really pretty. It's. You know, it basically looks like Danielle's dress up there. It's like drapes, you know, white millions.

[Tom]

Really pretty.

[Ronnie]

So Yvonne's like, I have a speech. It means so much to have all of you here. This past year has been one of the hardest years of my life. And as the eminent party planner in New York, the people do not plan anything without going through. I would just like to say thank you so much for coming here. And you've been here through one of the hardest times in My life. Blah, blah, blah. I'm so grateful to have you by my side, Nick. I've never met a more competent man at selling chairs he found on the street for $90,000.

[Tom]

Thank you, honey.

[Ronnie]

I love you.

[Tom]

And everyone's like, yay. The chef comes out, makes a nice little presentation about the food, and swear,

[Ronnie]

oh, you will not only experience the food with your mouth, you will experience it with all your senses. I'm burning a pine cone. Smell it. Now eat. What do you smell? What do you taste? A pine cone. Told you

[Tom]

so. They are. They're all making small talk about ovulating and things like that. And, you know, like, what You're. There's like, a move that you do, like, after. After you have sex, where you sort of, like, shake the lady or something. And Andrea's like, oh, yes, we do that. Yes, the wheelbarrow. Yeah. But you know what? I. It's like, that's my move. It's like prosciutto. They're like, prosciutto's like, that's a deli meat. She's like, no, but Italian way, we call it prosciutto, you know?

[Ronnie]

Now they get okra salad served on liquid nitrogen. I don't know about this place. I'm gonna say it's very pretty in there, but you better get that burnt pine cone away from me and get me some French fries and okra salad. No, I'm sorry. I'm sure you're very talented. Do you serve bread here? Can I just.

[Tom]

I was like, I want to go to this place, Georgina. I actually think I tried to go to it in January. I was looking for a good Indian restaurant, and it came up, and I was going to try to go to it, and I could not get a reservation. So I was. I was living vicariously through this show. Not amazing.

[Ronnie]

Georgina's like, wow, liquid nitrogen. I freeze words off with that.

[Tom]

It's in my office all the time. I freeze words off of it. I just sometimes just, like, freeze the poop off my child's butt with it. So then Nick is like, well, Amanda, did you see our witness besides Lindsay at the ceremony? Look at this. And he shows a picture of their dog in a little doggy talks. And Amanda's like, like, oh, my God.

[Ben]

I don't know why dogs make me cry more than people, but that's so sweet. Like, Reese cried for the first time today when I left the apartment because, like, she, like, never cries.

[Ronnie]

And, like, literally was like, Gavin's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Boring. Boring. Boring. Wow. Wow, wow. Wedding. Wedding. Dog. Dog. Okay, I want to know how you guys are doing sleeping in separate places. Go. Go ahead. I got somewhere to be. Amanda's like, I mean, normally it's fine. I'm like, when I go to bed, he wouldn't be home anyways. I would always go to bed before him.

[Tom]

And Gavin goes, because you were high, though. Gavin, shut the up.

[Ronnie]

What are you doing? I love Gavin. Oh, my God.

[Tom]

I loved it.

[Ronnie]

He's like, yeah, because you were high, so you were going to bed. She's like, I wouldn't go to bed before him because I was high.

[Tom]

Georgina's like, that's rude.

[Ben]

Amanda's like, I smoke to go to sleep.

[Tom]

He's like, wait, you have to smoke to go to sleep? I mean, has he not heard of this concept before? And Amanda's like, no, I just saw.

[Ben]

I only smoke at night.

[Tom]

And Lindsay's like, gavin, you're being so judgmental. That's my job. And Gavin's like, I'm supporting both of them. Okay, I'm gonna get to Kyle next. So Kyle's like, amanda, to be fair, you like to smoke. And Danielle's like, okay, well, it sounds like. It's sounds like Kyle, this is coming from you telling Gavin this. And I was like, yeah, she locked.

[Ronnie]

Which was funny. So then we see Kyle complaining in a clip to Gavin, like, how she smokes every night and what that. What that does to your sex life and your ability to have conversations with your partner. What about that? And so Gavin's like, ah, listen, I'm just speaking as myself, you know, I just want them aligned as they separate, you know, today, you know, I just want to all be on the same page, you know? So Amanda, huge pothead, can't go to sleep without smoking pot. Great. Got it on the record. Got it on the record.

[Tom]

So Kenny's like, like, you know, there's a narrative going on here that Kyle drinks too much. Because, like, yeah, I don't know where that narrative comes from, but you guys can all. I just miss Carl. So Kenny's like, but sometimes Kyle's like, there's a lot of things going on in a relationship, and this is one of them. And Gavin's like, yeah, Kyle drinks too much. Amanda smokes too much. They're both people. Am I right? They're both huge disasters. Amanda's like, yeah, but, like, when Amanda

[Ben]

smokes, looks, it's not detrimental to our relationship because I've never cheated after smoking weed.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I don't do mad things. After smoking weed, like cheating or like a betraying his trust. And I've never been embarrassing on public. He's like, well, we never had a big conversation or sex after you smoke weed either. It's like, well, there's never been an article written about me after I smoked weed.

[Tom]

Gavin's like, you're not staying focused, but I get it. I get. I know what you're doing here.

[Ronnie]

Typical. Typical pothead. Wow. Just all around the place. Wow. Are the police following you? Right? Do you hear helicopters?

[Tom]

Do you hear helicopters? Danielle's like, it is focused. It's actually like very focused. Gavin. And Georgina says, not having sex when you're high and cheating when you're actually when you're high are two incredibly different things. And Ken is like, yeah, very different. But if he's feeling like she's not present in the relationship, just like my dad wasn't present in my life for the past 25 years. Do we want to talk about this at all? Because I can't tell a sob story. No. And Katie, Katie, out of nowhere, friend of Katie is like, not present. She was moving out and he was out until three in the morning the night before and brought random people back to the. To his office. How is that present? That is not okay.

[Ronnie]

And Katie is the one that was when they were on the trolley. They're like, well, Katie was the one that was the, you know, texting with us about Danielle. Why are you mad at Katie? You know, Katie's like the best friend. I think she's Amanda's best friend, but she doesn't want to film, so she's not on that much. So Kyle's like, oh, yeah, I guess I'm just so bad. And Yvonne's like, oh, my God, Lindsay, stop this. It's my wedding. So Lindsay tries to psycho. Oh, yeah. Well, how good are the quality of the conversation of the relationship if my wife is always high? Oh, yeah, that's a good one. He wants to talk to a high person all day long. Got her. Like, it's not really. I think that you're currently wasted right now, Kyle. Yeah, for sake.

[Tom]

Danielle's like, you're always drunk. And Nick is like, guys, it's our wedding. Okay? Okay, it's our wedding. Let them fight. So Gavin is like, exactly. So they're another squabbling now. Now Kyle and Danielle start to fight. So Kyle's like, you drink more than me. She goes, what are you talking about? So shut the up. So then Yvonne is like, you guys,

[Ben]

I don't want to See? Fighting.

[Tom]

Okay, not at my wedding day, part three.

[Ronnie]

And Danielle's like, you know what? Gavin instigated this entire thing and you for doing that, Gavin. Which she's totally right, but I still love Gavin for it. And Yvonne's like, I'm over everybody fighting at this dinner table.

[Ben]

I.

[Ronnie]

You know, especially people who showed up in a white dress. And Danielle's like, are you talking about me a? She goes, you called me a at my own wedding?

[Tom]

Yvonne is like. I say, she is. She is taking every inch into. For a mile. I mean, she is. She is really getting as much mileage as she can from being the host of this dinner party. Daniel's like, yes. I mean, it was like. I hate when people fight about. When it was, like, clearly used in, like, I feel like, not, like. I don't feel like she was saying, you're a. She was saying, are you talking about me? Like. Like, it was a. It was, like, fun usage. I feel like. Even though. Even though it was a tense situation. So Yvonne's like, yes, I am. You called me a at my own dinner. And. But then Danielle's like, yes, I did. I am calling you a at your own dinner. Now I am gonna pivot that into mean usage.

[Ben]

And Lindsay's like, no, Danielle, don't call her a. Don't call her a, Danielle. That's my job. Why is everyone taking my job tonight?

[Ronnie]

So Nick's like, no, no, no. For the bride, please. She's like, am I allowed to have an opinion in my own wedding? She goes, well, you could have had the opinion when I texted you about it. Oh, damn. So it turns out Danielle sent an actual picture of herself wearing the same dress to Yvonne. And Yvonne said, great. Like, she sent her approval. And Yvonne's like, well, they looked a different color in the picture. Yvonne, now I get that you are suddenly gonna be good for reality TV today because this is. This is, like, your first big reality fun moment, but you're doing too much. This is crazy. She literally sent you herself where you gave the dress approval, and now you're gonna try and make it a plot. That's. That's cold. That's level. That's like third season housewife behavior.

[Tom]

It really is. It's very housewife behavior. So Yvonne's like, but that's not pink. And also, I don't even care what you're wearing, but you call me a. So this means that Yvonne is. Now she's like, okay, I am going to concede that first point. I am. I. I lost that Fight. So now I'm just gonna move all my eggs into the basket. And Danielle's like, well, because I. I can't believe that you're saying this. I really can't. And so Gavin's like, wait, you texted her the picture? Was Amanda high when the picture was taken?

[Ronnie]

I want to know, did Amanda smoke the picture? Katie is like, but it's pink. And Lindsay's like, if you text a picture, it means you're on the fence, Ryan. So maybe you were just saying, like,

[Ben]

is this a bro, man, or is

[Ronnie]

this not a bro? She's trying to be on Yvonne's side, even though Yvonne's clearly wrong. So Danielle's like, okay, well, I apologize for calling you a. You're not a. You're a beautiful bride. But, you know, like, I didn't have enough time to come up with something better. So.

[Tom]

So Andre's like, the beautiful bride. Yes. They all toast and everything, and it's like, okay, all right. It was like a nice little reset. And then Gavin goes, okay, now back to Kyle and Amanda go, you. He is such a little. So Danielle is. I'm like, mad. I'm honestly, I am actually mad on behalf of Yvonne. Yes, Yvonne has already had weddings. Yes, Yvonne is definitely being someone who. I don't know the right word for it, but, like. Like, you know, she is, like I said before, getting a lot of mileage out of being the. The bride at this dinner. But at the same time, it is still a dinner that she put together. It's like a nice dinner. And like. Like, there's been requests from the host to stop fighting and talk about this. And Gavin's like, whatever, I don't care. I'm gonna stir up again.

[Ronnie]

Here's why I'm not mad. It's a reality show that has not, you know, it's first season. It's not that exciting. So far. Gavin's moving the plot along, and I don't really feel bad for Yvonne because Yvonne was trying to start drama at her own around being like, I can't believe she's wearing white at my wedding. Can't believe she's wearing white at my wedding. And then in front of everybody being like, someone's wearing white at my wedding, when this lady already texted you this dress and you approved of it, and you're trying to make her look stupid now on TV for your own game. So I don't feel bad for her at all. I think she's an. And she deserves it. And I just think reality.

[Tom]

I think that, like, I guess there's like, something so shameless about the way Gavin's doing this that it's like. It's so indelicate. It's just like, okay, you guys start fighting again. It's like, I don't know. I. I like more of the organic. Like, the fighting just can't stop because. Because the. The issue is so pressing, but he's literally just coaxing it out of people and telling them to fight, and then they do.

[Ronnie]

Well, he's basically doing it. He's basically being the male Lindsay, because this is what Lindsay does. Like, so are we gonna talk about just, like, puts it out there, you know, Commercial.

[Tom]

Here comes one right now. So then Gavin. So he's like, yeah, Kyle and Amanda go. So now Danielle's like, gavin, we're not going to Kumbaya. Kumbaya over that right now. Okay? And K's like, you, Gavin, and C. Kevin says all that matters is how they move forward. And are they still in love? Amanda, are you still in love? Love. Kyle, are you still in love? I'm just like, you know what it is? I guess here's what it is. I'm trying to drill down into why this annoyed me more, because normally I like when people are, like, mixing it up and, like. And have creating scenes for us. But I think what annoys me is that, like, it's like, why do we have to talk about Colin, Amanda at someone else's, like, wedding? Even if it's a faux wedding? Like, why can we give it a break for just, like, one second? Like, I'm okay with, like, the Danielle stuff. Danielle and Lindsay, but Kyle and Amanda again here. It's like, you guys can't stop talking about this. The two of you. Amanda and Kyle, you guys can't shut it up for one second? Like, and you're just had this whole spiel about how you're not trying to make it awkward for other people. Why can't you both just be like, you know what, Gavin? We have stuff we're working through, but we're gonna work through it. And tonight's not about us, right?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. You know, well, for the record, I mean, I think you're right. He is being, you know, messy and obnoxious, and none of this is his business. And it has plays here. I just think it was the best episode of the City so far. And, oh, yeah, I give credit where credit is due because it was him. He was literally like, okay, that's done. Okay, step back, please. We're going back to Amanda possibly being A drug addict. Okay, let's step back from that. Danielle, were you cheating? You probably were. Okay, wait, pause on that. You're aware that Danielle is wearing the same dress as you, right? Okay, anybody have any gossip on the waiter? Let's ruin this man's life.

[Tom]

Life that's ruined.

[Ronnie]

Just making me laugh. But I think that you're right, what you're saying. I was just entertained by it. So it was a great episode. Mine just feels too man sometimes, because I love this man so much. But are you in love? And Gavin's like, she just said, yes. No, she said, I love this guy, and I love her, too. And he's like, amanda. Gavin says, amanda, are you still in love? And then there's a big, long silence while she does her Homer Simpson blink. And she's like. Like, whoa. I've got, like, an incredible amount of love for him, but, you know, if I was in love with this person, they wouldn't be treating me this way. Okay, and are you in love with Amanda, Kyle? And Kyle's like, have we been through some ups and downs? Yes. Have I bottomed out and spiral? Absolutely. Am I embarrassed by it? Absolutely. Have I made out with a curb before and said, I love you, Amanda, and then realized it was a curb? Yeah, probably. Didn't my mouth taste like curb after? Yeah. Also, gum. I don't even remember what flavor it was. And I'm asking my question. I forgot what you're talking about, Kyle, what's the answer?

[Ben]

Are you in love?

[Tom]

Am I in love right now? Like, no, like what she just said. So then Amanda has this look on her face like, how could you? Even though she also just said that she wasn't. So Kenny is like, well, do you guys think that. That you can get back to being in love with her? And God's like, how could we be in love right now? Look, Gavin's like, well, you can still be in love during bad times. Just look at Yvonne and Nick. And so Danielle is like, gavin, all due respect, you've never been in this situation before, and you have no idea what you're talking about. So then Yvonne's like, I can't deal with this. So she leaves because she's like, you guys are all talking about relationships falling apart while I'm trying to celebrate my marriage. And so.

[Ronnie]

Hey, Vaughn, will you drag. Grab me a drink. Grab me a drink while you're.

[Tom]

He literally asks that.

[Ronnie]

Nope. Okay.

[Tom]

Georgina's like, hey, I'm talking. I'm talking. So Georgina says, look, look, I moved out of an apartment for someone I was dating for five years. And it was to take space. And the goal was to get back together. But I'll never forget the day I moved out. I was so sad. And he went to the gym. And I remember, yes, I would have. I would have still moved out, even if he stayed and begged me not to. But if he had stayed and asked me to, like, please don't go or let's figure it out, it just would have meant a lot for me as I moved out and said goodbye to him for the rest of my life. It would have been a nice way to end.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I would have left him anyway. But it would be nice if he pretended to care. And then Lindsay starts crying, and Amanda's like, Gavin, this feels like you're starting. And he's like, whoa, when do you were you. You could get back together, right? She's like, oh, my God. It's like, you know, like, I mean, I'm doing what I'm doing to save the relationship. You just left him. Stop with this narrative that you're doing what you're doing. And so they see that Lindsay's crying. So, like, Lindsay, are you okay? And then she says that she's upset because. Well, she tells us that she's upset because when she met her baby daddy, she really thought that they could make it work, but he doesn't want to be with the public person. And she even considered giving up her public life for him, but he still didn't want it.

[Tom]

Yeah. So then Kyle is like, well, I saw no evidence of effort when I looked around the apartment and the. In the. And the move and all that stuff. And Georgina goes, well, sometimes the effort comes from one person. It's not always 50, 50. And Kyle's like, like, oh, this is a one way street. She's like, yeah, that's what I just said. So Kenny is like. Kenny's like, well, I get that there's a lot of frustration here. I say this as someone who just reunited with his father. Does anyone want to talk about this? No.

[Ronnie]

But, hey, guys, you are moving backwards right now. Okay, we stay on topic. Gavin, who started one?

[Tom]

You're the one who moved them backwards. They were getting along perfectly nicely tonight.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So now it's kind of turning on Amanda because Kyle's not usually. Kyle's like, whatever. Because, like, hey, you know, what about her? She doesn't speak to me. She's always high, and this house is a mess. So Amanda's like, I love you dearly, but you guys need to stay the out of this. You literally have no idea. I'm like, okay, that's great, except that you've been. You're fine when it's shoving your side down, but then when the other side starts coming out, you're always like, I don't want to talk about it anymore. And frankly, I thank you, because I don't want to hear about it anymore. I'm just saying.

[Tom]

By the way. By the way, one thing we totally forgot to mention was that when Avon was giving her speech at the beginning of the dinner, which when things were, like, nice and happy amongst everyone, she was reflecting on marriage or relationships. And Kyle gives Amanda a smile like. Like, it was almost a nostalgic smile. And she smiles back at him. You know, it's almost like a. You know, we do have this relationship. Like, there were special times. And then she just gives him the middle finger. And I was like. Like, she's just obnoxious. Oh, she did?

[Ronnie]

Oh, I didn't see.

[Tom]

Yeah, Yeah. I was just like, it's just. It's just. I mean, Kyle deserves the middle finger for many things. Don't get me wrong. Many, many things. He has earned several middle fingers. But, like, it's. It's just. It's. These are the sort of things that I feel like for many years, I kind of gave her a pass on because I felt like she was so miserable with Kyle. But, like, now that we are no longer giving Amanda a pass, I think it's safe to say, like. Like, she can be really incredibly obnoxious. And like, that little moment. Unless imagine if she never give. Gave him a middle finger. And, like, I was the one who. Who watched this moment incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure she did because the music slowed down. The music was, like, nice. And it slowed down. Like, oh, wow.

[Ronnie]

Well, I did notice when all the. When all the other ladies were like, yeah, Kyle. And Kyle stays out all night. That's not cool. And Kyle was making out with someone in a bar. You know, they're standing up for Amanda. And Amanda just kept doing that smirk she does, you know, like, yeah. But then when it gets turned on her, she's like, guys, we need to stop talking about. This is nobody's business unless you're all yelling at Kyle for me, you know? But, yeah, what an obnoxious couple. So Lindsay is like, you know what, Kyle? Like, you want this partnership where you have togetherness, like Andrea and Lexi, right? And they're like, yeah. And Kyle goes, oh, yeah. You know what she said, though? You know, it's like, hold on, Kyle. You also said you wanted a partnership with the otherness.

[Ben]

Okay?

[Ronnie]

But your ideas of togetherness are very different. Yeah, he wants a party girl. A party girl was a takeaway,

[Tom]

Kyle. That's literally what you want.

[Ben]

And hold on.

[Tom]

I was like, I'm gonna go jump off a cliff.

[Ben]

Hold on. We have to make sure there's cameras there to show it.

[Tom]

So then Nick decide. Now Nick is annoyed, so he leaves. So Kyle is like, you don't know.

[Ben]

Know.

[Tom]

You don't know me 10 years and you don't know me. So Lindsay's like, you guys both want

[Ben]

the same things, but you want it from the other person. And, like, you're both trying to change each other. Both of you trying to change it.

[Tom]

I was like, thank God someone finally said it on this show. So Kyle is like, well, apparently she thinks I want a party girl and.

[Ben]

Stop talking, Kyle.

[Tom]

Okay, I guess we'll have a party girl come up here and talk instead, because apparently that's what I want to do. Oh, hey, guess what? I'm gonna get a party. Hey, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna rename my drink from Lover boy to Party girl. Because apparently that's all I want.

[Ronnie]

So Lindsay stands up and she's yelling, and she's doing the Taylor Armstrong, enough. And then she's crying about her own stuff. Kyle's like, oh, God. Any further questions, you guys can email me about it.

[Tom]

So he leaves.

[Ronnie]

And Kenny's like, well, I think the important thing here is that it's not just squarely on one person's shoulder. And Kyle's getting all this shit, okay? And don't get me wrong, he's done a lot of stuff wrong. And so Nick comes and he's clinking his glass. He's like, guys, guys, I respect that. Everyone has a lot going on. Everyone's like, fuck you. Fuck Kyle. Amanda. Like, this is about my wife sweating, okay? My wife is crying in the bathroom right now. She's planned this for weeks. Great expense. She thought she was going to be the only one wearing white. Can we give the woman a break?

[Tom]

Okay? Can everyone put a smile on their face like they just found a new Eames chair? So they're like, okay, yes, thank you for. Thank you for saying that. Meanwhile, Kyle's downstairs. He's at the bar. At the bar. And he's like, of course. When I look up double standard in the dictionary, it's gonna be our relationship. He's the guy at the bar talking to Himself that you see in the cartoons. He's also the guy who says, if

[Ronnie]

you look blank up in the dictionary.

[Tom]

Me? Yeah,

[Ronnie]

Up in the dictionary, my wife.

[Tom]

So. So Lindsay's still crying, and man's like, are you okay?

[Ben]

Like, don't apologize. I love you. You're okay. I don't want to see you upset.

[Ronnie]

Gavin, the picture that she sent of her dress to Yvonne, she's like, see? And he's like, oh, yeah. Wow. First of all, you look beautiful. But, yep, it's exactly how it looks. You want me to bring it up on? We're going to get Amanda signed up for rehab, and then I will bring this up in the next quarter. Okay.

[Tom]

I mean, I would have said don't wear it, but, like, yeah, I'm not saying that Yvonne set you up for failure, but, like, she kind of did. Anyway. Anyway, I'm gonna go have a beverage.

[Ronnie]

That was so funny, though, because he's like, you're absolutely right. That is the dress that you said you were gonna wear. I mean, I would have said don't wear it, but,

[Tom]

I mean, Danielle should have known that was a very light shade of pink. Very light shade of pink. So Lindsay is like, you know, we've been.

[Ben]

Amanda. We've been through so much together, and I feel like, just, like, a lot.

[Tom]

And Amanda's like, I know.

[Ben]

And, like, you don't normally cry, and this is, like, crazy. I'm like, a lot softer.

[Ronnie]

Hey, everybody, the bride is here. Okay, let's. Let's. Avon is the von. So everyone starts clapping, and Lindsay and Amanda just keep talking. They're like, I love you. I love you, Lindsay.

[Tom]

Not moving out of the way. And Amanda's like, so then Ivon is like, okay, can we. Are you guys good? Amanda's like, I'm good. It's Gavin's fault.

[Ben]

And Lindsay's like, God damn it, Gavin. No wheelbarrowing.

[Tom]

He's like. And I. He's like, oh, I lost my chance. So they are, like, joking, and it's, like, fun. And Yvonne is saying, like, well, okay, there's another course, everyone.

[Ben]

So it gives us an all opportunity to try again to have a nice time.

[Tom]

So she. Yvonne tells us, you know, I've known Lindsay for 100 years. I don't care if Lindsay gets activated. She's not getting activated for the right couple. She's like, I'm like your sister. You're standing on your chair screaming about Kyle and Amanda, and I need you to stand on your chair and tell everybody to shut up. So that My five course dinner can proceed.

[Ronnie]

This would be so boring if that happened. Yvonne, I'm so sorry, but you and Nick are not the most exciting couple. And nobody wants to hear it from you two. Nobody wants to hear it. Okay, what do you want to talk about? This is a TV show. And so Georgina tries to make a speech and she's like, well, I've known this couple for so long. They really balance each other well. Wow, it's so worth celebrating, right? Aren't we happy to be here? He's like, okay. And Yvonne's looking around like anybody else. And Kyle returns like, oh, yeah, well, the bar. I told the bartender, look at the dictionary, not over it.

[Tom]

Like, the. The room does seem to reset. They, like, Nick and Yvonne kiss. Andre's like, oh. To the beautiful bride in the groom. And everyone's like, yay. And they're making jokes tong ch, ch. And then this is when Kyle comes back. He's like, sorry, buddy, for not being able to hold it together. And Kenny's like, well, you know what? I do empathize with you in terms of, like, people coming at your relationship. In response, I was like, kenny.

[Ronnie]

They just reset the room, both of them. Kyle and Kenny. It's like they cannot knew.

[Tom]

Kyle didn't know. He came back drunk thinking they were still fighting. Kenny knew the room was reset, and he still went right back into it.

[Ronnie]

And Danielle's like, well, I mean, at least this came from someone's mouth versus Lindsay finding information on the Internet. Like you've been wanting to find information about my man. Georgina's like, oh, my go.

[Ben]

I love how everything's always blamed on me. Like, first of all, she's like, was

[Tom]

it not you that brought it up or no? And she's like, why is it that

[Ben]

I'm the one that's bringing this up? I was at Parrot with the boys, and they had a lot of to say about Owen. Okay? Because the boys had a lot to say because the boys like that.

[Tom]

She's like, she's putting her hand down. She does this weird.

[Ronnie]

The boys, the boys.

[Tom]

She keeps, like, doing this thing where she's like showing the back of her hand.

[Ben]

Or she's like, the boys, the boys, the boys who do you.

[Ronnie]

And I said, okay, I only operate on facts and Cs. I only have real facts too. Okay? Kenny's like, that's why we're going to you guys for facts. So Lindsay's like, I mean, what is girl? What do girls do? They find facts. This is very difficult of you, Danielle. It's, like, typical of me. Jeez, your baby's stepping in this direction. I think maybe you could text me and say, like, this is what the boys are talking about.

[Tom]

Vote.

[Ben]

Sorry. I'm not, like, thinking about texting you in the middle of a conversation that's about you.

[Tom]

I'm like, you could learn a lot from Janet. Be like, oh, my God, Danielle, they are talking about you right now. Your life is in danger. So Gavin is like, why does everyone keep saying boys like that? Yeah, it's definitely a Z at the end of that one.

[Ben]

So Lindsay's like, everything's always blamed on me.

[Tom]

And Danielle's like, well, you literally told me to my face. I was like, oh, I would love to see, like, see your apartment. And I was like, I would love for you to get to know Owen, and the first thing that you do is Google him to try to sniff out something that he's doing wrong.

[Ronnie]

Sniffing. We were just confused, like, how long they were married. You know, we didn't know. Let's. He's like, oh, my God. Boys, say something, please. Kenny's like, well, I think it. You know, we just wanted to make sure you weren't oblivious to whatever was going on. Yeah, I just started over basic confusion, like, how long is he married? Married? And Owen goes, you guys don't even know me. He's like, we're trying to get to know you is what Google's for.

[Tom]

But I think Owen saying, you guys don't even know me. Like, I don't feel like that makes sense in this scenario. Because, like, it's one thing to say, oh, Owen, he. You know what he loves. He loves miniature golf. And he'd be like, you guys don't even know me. Like, you can't make, like, a judgment or an assessment about my personality. But trying to figure out when a wedding date is. Is not about whether you know someone or not. You're just trying to understand, establish a timeline in the world. Right. So, yeah, him saying that felt like a bit of a deflection to me.

[Ronnie]

Well, I mean, I get why he'd be. I get why that couple would be defensive. Like, why you guys keep trying to make it look like we're cheaters. Even if we are cheaters. It's like, why are you trying to do this on tv? I get why they would be annoyed, But Owen just comes off. I just believe that Owen did cheat, and he just seems he's not handling it well. It's like he's sending Danielle out to do all the Fighting. But then when it comes right down to it, it. They can't really answer. And then they're just like, this is legal, and we cannot. Like, oh, gosh, we just had this on road island. Like, oh, unfortunately, I can't answer things because it's a legal situation. Okay, Sorry.

[Tom]

Oh, so. So anyway, so Owen's like, I don't. I don't come in and give my life story off the bat. And Danielle says, divorce is a very, very sensitive subject and a man. It goes.

[Ben]

So I will say Kyle came home, and he was talking about how Owen kept on saying, four years, four years, four years, four years.

[Tom]

And Lindsay is like, so Lindsay's talking about something else. Talk about co parenting and mediation.

[Ronnie]

Well, she's saying, sensitive subject is also co parenting, and so is mediation. Danielle. It's like, yeah, but I've never poked and prodded those about you. And she goes, nor have I. And Owen's like, this is absurd. And Amanda's like, hold on, Halloween. Everybody was talking about it behind your back. And I said, let me just go talk to Owen. And I asked you, when you're saying four years versus two, were you legally married four years ago and your wedding was two? And your response to me was. And we see a flashback to him saying, ah, there was a thing called Covid. You remember Covid? It changed the length of years.

[Tom]

She goes, yeah, hold on. I. I don't need attitude from you. And so I didn't really understand what his. Why. I didn't understand what his response was. So Danielle's.

[Ronnie]

Because she was saying, are you saying that you got married legally on one day, but then you, like, had a wedding wedding two years later? Like, trying to clarify that seems like it would be the natural thing. And Owen was like, oh, you heard of COVID Like, people couldn't actually go out and have a wedding during COVID Amanda.

[Tom]

Yeah, got it.

[Ronnie]

You know, but got it being nasty, like, attitude dick. Geez, I'm actually trying to make it look better for you.

[Tom]

So Amanda's basically saying, like, I'm just trying to give him the opportunity to clear the air. And he's like, oh, so stupid. So Danielle says, I feel like you're trying to catch him in something that I already know about.

[Ben]

She.

[Tom]

I'm not trying to catch him. Well, why didn't you just come to me? And I would have been like, I actually already knew all this information. And Georgina's like, like, well, but she's coming to you right now, so why don't we talk about it? And Daniel's, like, a little too late, because you know what? They've already tried to paint a picture that he's dodgy, that he's lying, these. All these things. I'm like, well, I don't know if he's lying, but he definitely was dodgy last week for sure. Yeah, he's pretty dodgy.

[Ronnie]

So Georgina's like, well, then what is the truth? I mean, I think there's probably a head in the freezer or something. And that's why we don't know what happened, because this is a lot. And so they're arguing back and forth. And Amanda's like, I was just trying to clear his name. And Danielle's like, why should he have to clear his name? He doesn't have to. And Lindsay goes, then why is he on this show? Like, you're on a TV show, okay? And Daniel goes, he's only on here because I introduced him to you. And Lindsay goes, and then why are you on the show then? Meaning? I mean, I took it to me. And why are you on the show if you want to hide everything? And Daniel.

[Tom]

That's how I took it as well.

[Ronnie]

Oh, that's what this is. You don't want me on the show.

[Tom]

Listen, Daniel gave such a withering look, too. It was kind of. I felt like Danielle was being dramatic and, like, it was not. Not dramatic. But, like, I do agree that I think Lindsay was saying, like, well, why are you on the show if you're not willing to be opening to questions or, like, have everything examined. Right. And Danielle taking it as like, oh, you're mad that I'm on the show. It's kind of probably all of the above. Love. Lindsay's probably not happy that Danielle is back on the show. Like, it's like, why is Danielle here? Why is she on. Why is she on my show? Right. But Danielle takes it purely as, like, this is the root of the issue, which I'm not sure it is the root of the issue. I think it's probably just an ancillary issue. And Danielle gets this look on her face. Her. Her eyes, like, narrow. She's like, oh, there it is. And it was like. It was so dramatic. It was like a soap opera that I actually was like. I started to giggle. I was like, this is great.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Danielle's been wanting to have. And she, like, you showed your true colors, Lindsay. And she's like, I'm just saying, if you don't want to talk about your life, I mean, I said it the Garrett and defended you. While I was googling him. And Danielle's like, what are you even talking about? And Kyle's like, you need to stop. You need to open up and stop being defensive and fake, all right?

[Tom]

She's like, I am open. So Georgina goes, well, why do we not still know the truth? And Yvonne's like, is there anything we could do to make this about me and that Nick right now? Because, like, guys, all we were was like, has he been married for four years or two? And Daniel's like, but what does it matter to you guys? And Lindsay says, they're literally, like, moving

[Ben]

out of apartments in their marriage. Like, you guys can't even talk about facts. Like, that's insane, Danielle.

[Tom]

So then Nick pounds his fist on the table. Like, guys, I want to clear a few things up. A Wasilly chair is different from an Eames chair. And I just hate how you guys are always confusing them. And I just had to mention it right now, since we're putting everything on the table, which I don't do tables, by the way, only the chairs. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

He's like, guys, we just got married, okay? And they're all. He's trying to make a joke. And they all laugh. And Amanda's like, well, it's getting weird how defensive you guys are. And it's making it look bad, like nobody cares. They're like, thank you, Nick. Have a seat. We will continue this seat. So Kyle's like, let alone speak, he's a little soft spoken. Right on. Yeah. Hey, meet the peaky blind. You meet the peaky folk and blinders. Right, Owen? He's like, I got married in 2021. And Georgina's like, great, thank you. He goes, and I had my wedding in 2023. Just, wow. And that's it. And Gavin's like, why don't you just say that from the very beginning? It's so easy.

[Tom]

And he's like, and I'm sorry, the divorce is. The divorce is filed. And Gavin's like, yeah, why don't you say that? And Daniel goes, because you guys don't know him. Why does. Why does he owe you guys anything? And Gavin is like, but, like, why be shady when I ask you a direct question, which I think is a fair question, especially if there's, like, rumors and you're on a TV show all together, why don't you just dead it when they say, when did you guys get married? Because there's gossip items about it. Why don't you just say 2021. Wedding in 2023.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I don't know, but they can't. And it's like he finally did, but it's been circles and circles and circles. So I don't believe that them. And so this is where Danielle says, there's legal things we cannot talk about. And if you think he's dodgy, continue that. And if you think I'm a just continue to do that. Like, I don't even care anymore. Because honestly, at this point, I don't give a. But it matters to me for our future that we just not talk so specifically about a lot of things that are. Regarding his divorce.

[Tom]

My. Well, my takeaway is that this. My takeaway is the divorce is messy. And so he's been advised, don't talk about the divorce or the relationship at all on television. Just whatever it is. Keep the conversation moving. Don't talk about anything. So when it comes up and people are asking, what. When did you get married? When did. When was the wedding? He's trying to be like, I'm not going to say anything. But what he's actually doing is making it seem so shady. Like there was funny business.

[Ben]

This.

[Tom]

Maybe there was, I don't know. But, like, I would not be surprised if he was trying super, super hard to try to do like. Like follow some sort of lawyer's advice about, like, what you should or should not put on television. But I think he got gummed up all in it. And now he looks worse than if he had just simply answered the question the first place last week.

[Ronnie]

But, I mean, also, just don't go on tv, you know what I mean?

[Tom]

Well, there's that.

[Ronnie]

You dumb, dumb. So Danielle's like, I mean, if I could show you an email offline, then maybe you would understand what I'm talking about, Amanda. But none of you are owed that. And not even one of you have asked what his last name is or what he does for a leave in. And Gavin's like, he's a he. It's he. I know that one. Yes.

[Tom]

Danielle goes, what does he like to do in his spare time? All you care about is this or proving to him. Proving him wrong about what? I know the truth and I'm very happy. And that's all you need to know. And that's it. That's it. And that's it.

[Ronnie]

Yikes. So Lindsay's like, oh, how the tables have turned in, by the way. Let me say something. And it was like, my eardrum is broken from that down there. Okay, okay. Oh, okay. Ellen, I didn't like you before. I hate you now. What's this guy doing here? I hope they catch him.

[Tom]

Yeah, well, he. Lindy. Lindsay now is like, hello, everyone.

[Ben]

I am now going to make this about me.

[Tom]

So she said, my point in asking

[Ben]

questions was to make sure that you are good. I'm not coming to you. I'm not coming to you saying, you should do this, you should do that. Not how you treated me when I was engaged to Carl crying my eyes out hysterically. Me. Yeah, it's very clear. You haven't changed.

[Ronnie]

So now they're going back and forth. Oh, whatever. Lindsay and Cycle.

[Ben]

Thanks for writing.

[Ronnie]

You haven't changed.

[Ben]

Oh, really?

[Ronnie]

My life bothers you so much. And so Danielle's like, oh, I'm happy. And that really bothers you. So Lindsay's like. And Danielle tells us she was the ride or die for years for Lindsay. But then, you know, the second she started having her own opinion, Lindsay didn't like that. Lindsay only likes a family. I mean, that's kind of true. But you not only started having your own opinion, you started trying to prove that you weren't like a lap dog by being an. Which I think we see a lot on these shows.

[Tom]

So she says she doesn't want me to be in a good place. It's definitely the most turbulent friendship I've ever had.

[Ronnie]

And.

[Tom]

Oh, and the producer says, owen, do you have friendships like this? And he's like, no. So then Yvonne is like, oh. And Owen, like, Owen kisses Ivan goodbye. Like, Owen and Danielle are gonna leave.

[Ben]

And she's like, no, don't leave. It's my wedding.

[Tom]

And Lindsay's like, talk your truth. She's like, no, this is.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's. Then we talk our truth and you don't. That's the.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And then Lindsay's like, the girl in white should leave. She goes, it's pink.

[Ben]

You.

[Ronnie]

And she storms out of there, like, trying to find her way through all these curtains that they've hung up. And Nick's like, oh, my God, if there's alcohol on anyone's glass, please pass it to me. So Daniela stormed out. Kenny is like, okay, guys. Because Yvonne goes, guys, can anyone please toast the couple? It's my wedding. So Kenny's like, okay, guys, let me say something. There's a lot going on. People are stressed. Why are we blaming Kyle for everything? Okay, it is not Kyle's fault that Amanda smokes weed. Can Amanda take some circle? Circle?

[Tom]

So. So then they are. Candy's like, no, people are stressed. Relationships are hidden.

[Ben]

They're falling apart.

[Tom]

It's like, yeah, Guys, we gotta go away. We gotta go on vacation. I think it's time. We gotta get out of here all as one group. So we see that Lindsay and Kenny have planned a trip to Connecticut. It when they were at that dinner together and they're like, wouldn't it be

[Ben]

funny if like we were like the unsuspecting host of like Friendsgiving or like a trip, like, we should do something. Maybe one of those two options.

[Tom]

He's like, what about a friends giving trip? Oh my God.

[Ronnie]

Totally natural. So Lindsay's like, so. And Kenny and I were thinking, how did we get to Kenny Jew, by the way. He's like, we had to sit down. We talked about our shitty parents. It was lovely. And Yvonne's like, good for you guys planning an event. We can't wait to be there. How fun. Lindsay, why is everybody always mad at me? You literally just like hijacked our entire night. You literally just fought with every single person and now you're making announcement about your weekend.

[Ben]

Great. Lindsay again he brought it up.

[Tom]

And Yvonne's like, well, we'll consider it. Thank you. If you don't see what I'm trying to say. Like, literally I spent so much time planning this to bring us, you guys, all together for us. And I'll talk about some trip.

[Ben]

You're just hijacking my wedding. My.

[Tom]

Technically not my wedding. My. It's like my after wedding. Well, it's my after wedding after wedding, but like, I don't care. Go on the trips, do whatever you want, but this kind of sucks.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And she does keep saying her wedding, so I was wondering if they like did their vows or something again this night. But whatever, who cares? Great episode.

[Tom]

It was great. It was actually like a I love a bottle episode wherein most of the episode takes place in like one location and when just everything comes out over a dinner table and it feels like a one act play. And that's what this one definitely felt like. I thought it was great.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, great. Great times in the city. All right, everybody. We will be skipping McBee Dynasty this week and we won't be here next week. I'm actually. This is my last show until we come back from break. I'm not going to be here tomorrow Thursday either. But I will see you guys soon. Love you. I hope you have a happy 4th and be here tomorrow with some more. Watch what happens. Oh, also check out our bonus this week. It's Love Island. We'll talk to you guys later.

[Tom]

Bye.

[Ronnie]

Bye.

[Tom]

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