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Ben
Who cares what happens when there's so much, So much that happens?
Ronnie
Well hello and welcome to Watch what Happens podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yo Bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Benjamin over there. Hello, Ben.
Ben
Hi, Ronnie. Welcome back to your podcast.
Ronnie
Well, thanks. How are you? Welcome back to yours. As we had a week off, I had a week and an extra day which was.
Ben
You did Glorious.
Ronnie
How'd it go for you?
Ben
Oh, it was so fun. Of course, on that one day we have, we missed you. But we had the wonderful Raisani and Eric Williams fill in and I love those two so much and they were so great and I just want to give a big thanks to them for, for subbing in and also a big thanks to the audience for being patient with us while we took a one week break because we know there's a lot of good stuff on Bravo that was worth talking about. And you know, we, we know, we know it's hard when podcasters go away for a second and so thank you so much for giving us that time because it really helps us, like get refreshed and just like have just. It's just nice. And now I feel like ready to dive into the second year of Bravo. Second half of the year for Bravo. How was your time off?
Ronnie
And figuratively, it was great. I mean, I was out of it because I got a waddle job on my neck. So I'm still bruised. So I hope no one's triggered by like bruising because I do look like I've been strangled. And I went to the grocery store the other day and they were much worse. You know, they were all the way down my neck and my face was still all swollen and I was walking through there just with sunglasses, looking for whatever. People were just looking at me and then looking the other way and crossing the aisles, you know, there was a certain kind of power in it, I have to say.
Ben
He got into a fight. He survived the fight.
Ronnie
Like, huh?
Ben
Yeah, because it looks like you were been strangled but also attacked by a wild animal.
Ronnie
Yes, it really did. I looked crazy and I had Lego face because my whole bottom half was swollen out to here. And I was like, what did he change my face? What's happened? But now I still have the same old face but less waddle. So anyway, that was fun and it gave me an excuse to be in bed, you know, watching endless hours of tv, which, I don't know. It was great for me or not. It's so. It's weird how I do that anyway in real life, but then when you have to do it, it's it's like, why? And then the. The endless thoughts, you know, like, listening to my own thoughts. Really not having you to come talk to every day is crazy. Whenever we have time off, it really is. Like, who do I tell this to? Like, I'm watching McBee. I'm screaming at the TV and, like, I need to tell somebody this, and no one in my real life is watching McBee.
Ben
I was actually so happy because two weeks ago, I watched the wrong episode of the McBee dynasty. I watched the wrong screeners. Then we couldn't actually do the recap of it because we sat down to recap it, and I hadn't actually watched. I. I hadn't watched episode three. I'd watched episode four. So we just canceled it for the whole week. But it also meant that on our week off, I didn't have to watch the McBee dynasty because I'd already watched it. And honestly, what a dud of an episode that was, right? This whole engagement. So boring. But then again, I'm also someone who, you know, like, sat through, like, many millions of us. The two hour finale of Love island last night where nothing happened. Yeah. Until the last 10 minutes of that show.
Ronnie
But, well, the McBee thing, seeing the Jesse, who I've always just assumed was this nice, sweet guy. Well, we'll talk about it when we get to me. Yeah.
Ben
Yeah. Look, we've been away from each other for a week, so now we're like, everything but what I will say is Atlanta. We're talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta today. And it was, wow, what an episode. Also Patreon Atlanta.
Ronnie
I did that because I tried to turn on the fan and the fan didn't turn on, but the light turned on and I was like, why do I have a shining spot on my head? Because I'm an idiot.
Ben
Sorry, Ben, you also look like you. You sank down a little bit in your camera shot.
Ronnie
Oh, it's because I put my legs up. Oh. I said, like holding my knees during the podcast.
Ben
So it's. Come join us on patreon.com watch or crappens to get access to the bonus episode video newsletter. Ronnie's Knees ad free listening, all that good stuff. We have a lot to catch up on this week. I. We have Real Housewives of Atlanta. Can I just say, I have to say something before we start our Atlanta thing, which is that this weekend I went to a French fry festival in Griffith. What? Yeah.
Ronnie
I missed a french fry festival.
Ben
Consider yourself lucky. Okay, this.
Ronnie
Where was it?
Ben
Where was it?
Ronnie
I interrupted it was before you could even.
Ben
It was, it was. It was at the Autry Museum in Griffith Park. It was the biggest rip off. It was like. People are calling it the French Friar Festival. This company, I'm putting this company on blast. Bootleggers. Not bootleggers. Bucket listers. Bucket listers. Let me tell you something. They're the org. They're like the company that does, like by the bell, pop ups and everything. And here's the thing. If this company brings a food festival to your city, do not go to it, because this was such a ripoff. Bought tickets. The tickets were expensive. They were like, I think over $50 ahead, maybe $60. Don bought them, but there was still like. And you get there and you wait in line. We had, we had the VIP tickets and we waited in line 30 minutes just to get into this festival, this food festival. And then it was just a bunch of food trucks. We're paying to go to food trucks. And then nothing was free. You then had to go wait in a 15 minute line to get tokens. And then when you get the tokens, you have to get in line for 15 minutes at a food truck. And then you buy, you turn in one token, which each token $7, and you turn in that token to get a fry. French fries from the food truck which they are making to order. So none of the fries are ready. So then you wait another 10 minutes. Could you even imagine spending, first of all, spending $7 on a little basket of generic french fries? And I thought the entire thing was gonna be like lots of different booths. Like when we went to the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, I thought it'd be a lot of little booths and these different restaurants would be there and then have all their fun little spins on french fries. Here's a poutine. Here's a waffle fry. Here's a this with this on it. None of that. It was all just regular fries. It was just like, here's a regular fry from Dave's Hot Chicken. Here's one from Marathon Burger. Here's one from this truck. It's like, how many regular fries can you get? I mean, it's all. Fries are good, but this is the biggest ripoff. And they had no water stations. So I just want to let everyone know I'm putting the company on blast because they wasted everyone's time and money. So there's my advocacy. Yeah, that's my advocacy for today, everyone. I, you know, welcome back.
Ronnie
The world's burning down. But, you know, this french fry company. But you know, I do get that. I would have been super pissed. That is really romantic that Don bought you tickets, because it sounds like something that he was so excited, you know.
Ben
Well, you know, he loves potatoes. He loves potatoes.
Ronnie
I love a potato.
Ben
You love potatoes.
Ronnie
I eat potatoes every day. And that's why it's so weird that you and I are even apart and we still kind of do the same things because I've been using this as an excuse to, like, eat whatever I want. So I've been getting fries every day. I've had Peter's fries, Whataburger fries, McDonald's fries, Wendy's fries, Burger King fries, frozen fries from the grocery store, the regular cut potatoes from. I mean, I've literally more fries than I had at the fry fest to a fry festival.
Ben
I only got two things of fries. It was. There was so much waiting that we just sold off all of our tickets. We just sold them to some, like, gen zers and we left. It was crazy. My friend Hannah, she spent $200 in terms of, like, tickets to get in there and buying the tokens, and all she got out of it were two small fries and a grilled cheese.
Ronnie
Oh, crazy.
Ben
That's disgusting. Hell, no. Shame. Shame on bucket listers. Yeah. And their shitty, shitty event.
Ronnie
Disgusting fry ripoff. All right, well, let's thank you, everyone, for your patience. Who's even heard of a fry festival? I mean, it was interesting for me. I didn't know that was a thing.
Ben
Thing I had to do.
Ronnie
We should do it better.
Ben
Yeah, we would do a. A very good fry festival. I believe so.
Ronnie
Here we go. Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 7 Episode 14 Highland Games and Explosive Claims so a lot of this episode was a fry festival? A lot of it, yeah. But, man, it got good towards. It got good towards the end. And, you know, Shamia takes a lot of shit because she is kind of insufferable and deserves it, but, man, she made it interesting at least.
Ben
Well, yeah, this episode, it was just sort of like humdrum fun and games. Nothing was really happening. And I was like, oh, man. And then all of a sudden, the last, like 10 or 12 minutes of this episode, I was like, oh, wow. It was like that. It was that generational that just. She's been holding it in and just putting it out there. Oh, that was. That was good. And like, the two. The portion. Shamia have been trying so hard to just not let their kind of even like, come onto the show this season. I think they're both playing a game of chicken of Like, I'm going to take the higher road. No, I'm going to take the higher road. I'm not going to talk about Shamia. I'm not going to talk about Portia. We're not going to do that. We're not going to. And then finally the dam just broke and it all came out and it was great.
Ronnie
We. I don't know that they've been trying to keep it off screen. I think Portia's been doing a good job of just letting Shamia look crazy because Shamia comes on and tries to start it in the first episode at Portia's party that she was having at her house with the new guy, you know where. What was that party that she's having? Like the singles? Oh, no, the couple's party.
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
Ronnie
To introduce her new boyfriend or whatever. And Shamia. Then Shamia shows up late and then she tries to kind of start with Portia. And Portia's been just like, I'm not going to give it to you. Like, I know what you're doing. I know you're coming on here to just start shit with me. It worked last season. I'm not gonna even give you that. Have fun. Let's see what you can do on your own without using me as a storyline. And I think she's been pretty good at keeping Shamia at bay because she sees what Shimmy is doing, you know, I think it's obvious. And then she just let her have it at the end and went so low. I mean, Shamia went so low first, but then Portia was like, okay, I'll match, you know. Yeah, it was like a low.
Ben
Crazy.
Ronnie
She was like, it was crazy. You know, I'll raise that a dollar.
Ben
Yeah. But the episode begins.
Ronnie
They are.
Ben
Everyone's gathering for breakfast and Phaedra has an update, which is that she wants to go on to Tasty Black, which is the website that K announced she likes to go to to watch porn. But unfortunately, I guess there's no porn in the uk. Or at least that site is not allowed in the uk. So Phaedra, she had a little bit of a stumbling block on.
Ronnie
Yeah, they said you can't get porn in Scotland. What do people do? I mean, what do you. There's only so much tv, for Christ's sake. Texas passed a lot where you have to do age verification or something to watch porn. And it's just so stupid, you guys. I mean. Okay, so I'll go through another step.
Ben
I know. I mean, for years it's.
Ronnie
We're looking at it anyway. What the hell?
Ben
I know. It's. It is hilarious. But I guess like the, the irony of like Scotland not allowing porn when you just have like a nation of free balling. Like, how do you not let people go to porn when you have like hot guys freeballing around in their kilts all day? Like, let people then like, like go off and watch their porn afterwards. So especially because kilts are such a. That, that is such a specific like porn genre too, right? Scottish. The Scottish motif. Right. That's definitely like a porn thing, right? Like a. I don't know.
Ronnie
I run into a ton of kil. Outlander thing. I think there's for everything. Really. I mean.
Ben
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Ronnie
There's people who poof on each other. I mean like you can, you can find something for anything.
Ben
I guess.
Ronnie
Nose hair porn. Yeah, I love that. Really long nose hair. Yeah. Getting dark. I'm sorry, how old are you? It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. You know, one thing I love about summer is how easy everything feels. The days are more relaxed and I find myself reaching for the same comfortable go anywhere pieces again and again.
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Ronnie
They go outside and it's a lawn day. It's very reminiscent of this real. I mean much classier because it's in Scotland. No offense, Rhode island, but it reminded me of Rhode island when they went to the big mansion in Newport and then they all just did nothing but hang around the mansion and play games on the lawn. They're fun. Somehow made that somewhat entertaining. This they weren't as lucky. It was like two guys in kilts and they, they said we're going to teach you a bunch of games that have been invented in Scotland, I guess. And they were like throwing logs and stuff. And of course shimmy is like, I'm used to flipping big logs. Hey Gerald.
Ben
It's like, oh God, Shamia, thank you.
Ronnie
The log, the log throwing is less exhausting.
Ben
Oh my God. I mean I kind of enjoyed it. This sort of reminded me of the Amazing Race. I feel like there was an episode of the Amazing Race where they had to do this, like take these logs and flip them around and everything. So they did this for quite a while for an entire segment of like the logs. And then there was what was. Even after the logs, they, they wind up doing. They wind up playing tug of war. There was something in between the logs and tug of war. I don't remember what it was, but they go to as a hammer toss. They do a hammer toss and then they do tug of war. The only thing that was really notable about the tug of war was when, quote unquote, Team Sturdy dragged the other team and Team Mighty across the line. And Kelly is just like, she just like falls over and she's just like on her back and her feet are just in the air and she just, just gets dragged across the lawn with that rope.
Ronnie
Mantle is like, oh, felt good. Like, I've been waiting to drag Kelly's
Ben
ass the whole trip.
Ronnie
So Kelly, basically, it's, it's wacky. So then they go back inside for treats. And now's the part where real housewives go to another country and just act offensive at any cultural, any cultural thing that they're offered today. It's haggis.
Ben
Yeah, we knew the haggis moment was coming. We knew there would be a. Oh, my God, it's haggis. But, you know, normally, whenever we've seen haggis on a reality show, because anytime any show goes to Scotland, they always present haggis. And they try to always serve them, like the most disgusting version, too. Like, you just see this big old bladder for full of meat and stuff and oats. But in this case, they got like very refined little, like fried balls of haggis. They looked lovely. And they were like, no. I'm like, I would have eaten that in a heartbeat. And they even had a nice little vegan one for Pinky.
Ronnie
Yeah, I'm. Isn't there a character named Haggis in something?
Ben
I think so. I also want to point out that I would have much rather have had this haggis than anything at the fry festival. I'll just say that right now there is a character named Haggis. Character Haggis. I'll look it up, everyone.
Ronnie
He's a giant in the Henry Griefer book series, Arthur. Okay?
Ben
And he's the fiercely Scottish, short tempered cartoon character from the Ren and Stimpy Show, Haggis McHaggis.
Ronnie
He's also, he's also a book witch of the woods in Pumpkinhead.
Ben
Hard Times for Haggis is a book also.
Ronnie
Well, you see, people come here, they learned about the French Five festival, they learned about nose hair porn, and they learned about characters named haggis. So I guess, what else do you need?
Ben
Yeah, so now they, so they, everyone tries the haggis, and now they go into. They go to the dining room where they're actually going to be served more haggis, which I think is kind of funny. But Portia's asking Kelly how she feels today, and Kelly's like, well, this morning was a little heavy. For me, but I'm okay. Thank you, ladies, for asking. And they're like, well, we love you, Kelly. She's like, yeah, it was a good day.
Ronnie
Thank you.
Ben
It was heavy. It was hard for me because the last night, like, she. She had a bonding moment with the ladies where she and Portia decided they just weren't gonna fight anymore. It's just not worth it.
Ronnie
Yeah. With all this stuff going on with the ex husband and not allowing the kids to film and this and that, she's like, let's just get along. So they decide to get along. And Drew's like, yeah, well, last night was liberating, and it was very spiritual, and I just felt like for the first time, we were really able to come together in Phaedra's room. Cynthia, myself, Kelly, Portia. And Portia's like. And I just. You know, Drew's always gonna try and start something in her innocent little voice. She's like, yeah, I was. We were in her room talking very privately, and Portia's like, well, I felt it last night for sure. And, you know, we made an understanding, me and Kelly, that we hear each other, but we're going to be friends now. And Shamia does not look happy about this. I think this starts Shamia's spiral.
Ben
Oh, yeah, good point. Yeah. And, yeah, Porsche's like, I want you to call me. I want you to be around me.
Ronnie
I want you to ask me for stuff.
Ben
And Shamia's like, the fact that Porsche is able to forgive other people and not me is crazy. But I've seen this before. I'm not buying it. But, hey, I hope it works out. Good luck. I'm like, but shimmy. Are you trying. Are you asking for forgiveness right now? I don't even know. Like. Like, yeah, it sucks, but, like, you're not, like, sitting here trying to get Portia to forgive you. You guys are both mad at each other.
Ronnie
Well, Porsche did forgive her. Kelly just wants to keep bringing it up over and over and over and over and over and over.
Ben
The problem with Shamia is this. Shamia is going down. Is participating in a long tradition on reality tv, which is actually one of my favorites, which is the sidekick separating away from their. Their dominant, their Alpha. And it always creates so much drama on reality tv because, like, whenever there's, like, a sidekick in an Alpha, that dynamic is so built in that when the sidekick tries to become the Alpha, like, neither of them really know how to deal with it, and they. They, like, lose their minds. And Shamia is trying to do that. But she's clearly not totally comfortable doing that, because as much as she spent last year being like, now I'm finally gonna step in the spotlight. I'm gonna be my own person. I'm not just gonna be a friend up. I'm not just gonna be this person that, like, you know, follows along with whatever Portia does. I'm gonna be Shamia. Here she is now saying, like, still wanting Portia's sort of forgiveness or. Or apology or whatever. She's, like, wanting stuff from this person that she now wants to be independent of. And it's like, yeah, this is why
Ronnie
you're still gonna have anything without Portia, like, in that relationship, you know, because last year, Portia didn't even know they were arguing. She's like, what? We're arguing? It was the whole season, and Shumi had been going behind Portia's back, like, oh. And it really hurt my feelings that Portia didn't support me when I came on this show. And she didn't want, you know, she didn't even want me to be on the show. And then she didn't, like, come celebrate me. She just sent me flowers. And I remember saying, she sent you flowers? I mean, that's nice, right? I don't get it. Of course, we saw Portia send flowers again this season, and it wasn't nice. So, you know, anyway. But Portia didn't even know. She's just like, we're fighting now. And Shamia is still trying to just bring up this stuff, I think, because she knows she doesn't have anything going on on her own. You know, she's tried it all season and there's just nothing. I mean, she's going to make a dick joke every day and talks about how much she likes you know, getting dick from Gerald, and then she'll cry about, you know, the drama stuff in her life. But she really. As far as entertainment, she doesn't have anything. And she tried it. She's tried it with a lot of people this season, and they just read her for filth. And so now she's going to try and come for Portia. And it's just. It's kind of sad because I don't really dislike Shamia. I just think she's flopping so hard on the show and it's. Oh, she just doesn't.
Ben
I just like this version of her worse and worse. I see. Shamia is actually a pretty sad person. I was completely on her side with the Portia thing. I feel like she probably has like, it was probably very exhausting being Portia's friend, and she probably put a lot into it, and I feel like she probably didn't. She. I feel like Portia was probably a good friend to Shmi in certain ways, but I. I have to imagine with Portia being the star that she is, that. That that friendship was a little bit more one way. Shamia going into Portia and Shamir probably got exhausted and probably, like, she finally has this moment where she can be almost, like, on equal footing with Portia. And now she's, like, feeling like, you know, she's getting some sort of resistance from Portia, and it's like, man, after all I poured into you, you can't pour something back into me in this moment for me. So I kind of got all of that. But I almost feel like this season has been a reaction where she's almost trying to overcompensate to be like. Like, well, I don't need Portia. I am hilarious on my own. I'm not. I don't need to just be Portia's sidekick. So she's trying to be this big extra person, and it's turning all of us off because she's trying so hard. And so when you say she doesn't have anything going on, I think maybe if she were just being a little bit more authentic or just, like, more chill, we would actually feel like she does have stuff going on and she. She would be more accessible. But right now, she's just very presentational, and she's just, like, over the top and, like, giving drama. Drama club member. And it's just like. I don't know. I see her as a very sad person. She seems like she is. You know, when it was pointed out later in this episode that she's fighting with everyone, it's like, that is actually kind of sad. Like, she seems, like, unhappy.
Ronnie
Yeah. And a lot of the fights revolve around, like, well, I'm happier than you. I mean, like, look how happy I am. Where's. You know, kind of. It's all tied to the Gerald. I don't know how to say this, but a lot of it, I think, is just tied to her home life and Gerald, because she's not happy over there. And this whole, like, Gerald won't let me out act because he doesn't want to see me kiss anybody, and all of this, that's too much. And it's like, he's demanding a son. He must have a son. Like, must give son right now to Gerald or I Don't know how Gerald will react. And I think that that's a lot because you're living in this huge mansion, you've got kids, you're doing all of this. And it's like, well, what if I don't give Gerald? What do you want? You know, there's a lot of stress.
Ben
Well, she seems. She seems like she is constantly putting herself in positions where there's, like, a dominant person telling her what she can and can't do. And so she's, like, pushing back against that.
Ronnie
And.
Ben
But, like, she's still finding herself in those situations. And that's, like a very sad place. Like, it's almost like she's just trying to be herself, but she doesn't know how to be herself. And like, yeah, she just. She's instead, like, being a very annoying reality star Persona instead. And it's like, oh, yeah, you want better for you, Shamia?
Ronnie
Well, yeah, it's kind of like a person. Like, it's like an ensemble member of a musical. Let's pick a. Let's pick an old musical like Guys and Dolls. Okay. And you're like, oh, my gosh, what's going on with this background person? And then you put them in the center of the stage, and they're just like, want to roll the dice? Wanna roll the dice? I love gambling. Like you have anything else to say. And then it's like, well, why are you bringing. Why are you bringing the. The ensemble member up here? They're just supposed to sing.
Ben
It's like Melinda Doolittle. Do you remember Melinda Doolittle?
Ronnie
Is that from. No. Oh, Melinda, do. Oh, my gosh. Yes. From American Idol, when Simon was like, you're just a backup singer.
Ben
And he was right. Melinda Doolittle had the best voice of that season. She just had an amazing voice. Yes, she was great, but ultimately she was a backup singer. And Simon was right because she just. No matter how good her voice was, she never really popped as a star. She just. She had the talent, but she didn't have whatever it took. And so some people are just background players, and there's actually nothing wrong with that. But, like, sometimes, like, it's hard to get out of. It's hard. Sometimes it's hard to get out of the lane that you're sort of slotted into in life. And she lost that season, ultimately to Jordan Sparks, who appeared on the Love island finale last night. So look at that. Like, it all comes together.
Ronnie
She did. I watched it. Where was Jordan Sparks? I mean, I was watching it while I was scrolling. I was. I was two hours of people like, oh, my God, we're on a relationship.
Ben
There was a scene where, like the final four were all sitting, watching video tribute. First of all watching, like, remember this happened. Remember this happened. And then it was like, different. Like, parents were like, hey, guys, we're so proud of you. And then various celebrities came on and were. It was like Lizzo saying, you guys are amazing. And then Demi Lovato was like, love watching you guys. And then ultimately Jordan Sparks came on and said, you know, like, oh, my God, you guys are great. And thanks for singing no Air during the karaoke competition.
Ronnie
Oh, my God. Yeah, I definitely had my thumb on the fast forward button for that one. But yeah, you know, but also I see Porsche's side of all of this. Like, Shamia, whatever's going on with Shamia, okay, you want to be more of a star. Your best friend is a huge star on this TV show. Your best friends brought you on this TV show for years to give you attention and stuff. And then you come onto the show as a full time member and it's like, okay, but if you want to be a star, then go be a star. Like, what are you coming into my. I kind of do get that. When at the end. I mean, we're going to the end already. Not much else happens in this episode. But I mean, I kind of get. It's like, if you want to be a star, then go do it. Why do you have to. First you come on my thing, which Porsche seemed to be fine with the first year. No matter what Shamia says, she seemed to be fine with it, but now you can't even do your own thing that I'm not with you. You have to keep starting fights with me to keep yourself relevant. It's like, if you want to go be a star, go be a star. But if you can't be a star without, like, climbing onto me and starting with me to make yourself to give yourself screen time. Like, I don't know what to tell you, lady.
Ben
Yeah, sorry. I just started thinking about Melinda Doolittle and the concept of Melinda Doolittle as, like, something that's in our pop culture, like, general. Like, it's out there. I just was laughing like, Melinda Doolittle. God, I loved her. I want.
Ronnie
So talented. I'm mad I missed Jordan Sparks because I haven't seen Jordan Sparks in years. So I want to know. Anyway, I'm not rewatching Love Island. Jesus Christ.
Ben
Okay, so better watch it again from the start. All Two hours.
Ronnie
So Portia is just. Portia and Kelly have just announced that they made up and they're going to try to be friends. Shamia is visibly upset and then goes to her room crying and calls her mom. And she's like, you know, like, I feel so attacked. And it starts with Angela, which she's right on it. That was some bullshit coming from Angela. And she's like. And she was trying to imply that I was sleeping with our neighbor George. And his wife even texted me and said, she's lying. And the mom's just like, huh, huh. You can tell she takes these calls all the time. She's just walking around the kitchen putting away groceries. She's like, okay. It's Shamia's daily call of sobbing and complaining about being a victim. Okay. Just watching, washing the fridge.
Ben
And she is like, I presented that to the group. And they were all like, okay. But you talked about her daughter. It just always feels like an attack to me. And Mama Morton's like, shamia, just remember, at the end of the day, who here is going to be the heir to a huge kosher salt dynasty? Mom, I'm telling you, we're not the same Mortons. You've got to get off that.
Ronnie
Okay, Shamia? Well, it's not easy when you are having to head up a jail full of women. Okay, mom, you're not Mama Morton from Chicago either. Who am I even talking to?
Ben
Jesus.
Ronnie
I'm just trying to make this more entertaining to me. Please.
Ben
Listen, would you own a string of Canadian coffee shops? It's hard, Mom. We're Morton, not Orton. We are not Tim Hortons commercials. Here comes one right now.
Ronnie
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Ronnie
So yeah, the mom's like listening to her as she's going on and on and she's crying about being a victim. But you did say something. I mean you she didn't say anything mean about Angela's daughter. But who does that? Who goes up to that was wow, you're so much nicer to your. You're so much nicer than your mother is. Which we didn't even clock when that was.
Ben
I think we did. It was clocked. Yeah, we clocked it. Because I thought that was really obnoxious. I mean, I think I clocked. I remember seeing him being like, that's crazy that you would say that to someone's daughter. Like, that's so tacky. And then she's gonna be. Later on she's gonna be like, why can't you. I'm just surprised you wouldn't have your daughter come over. I'm like, because we saw how you already talked to someone else's daughter in this group. I'm sorry, that was bad. Yeah, that was just tacky. Yeah, real tacky.
Ronnie
And you're not the victim here, okay? With Angela you kind of were. But you've also been saying all sorts of about Angela that could or could not be lies. I don't know, you know, so anyway, I'm not crying for you, but you're, you're crying enough for yourself, for all of us. So then we go back to the kitchen and Pinky is talking to K. Michelle and she's talking about the Shamia stuff and she's like, I feel energy with you guys, okay, like, so you need to talk about the vibes. I mean there's something still there. And she's like, well, I just don't feel the same about her, you know, I mean, I'm keeping the same energy, but this situation, I just watched a lot of change ups. I mean, how are you going to be standoffish with me? And then we go back to Shamia and she's crying still. She's like, even with Kimberly last night we had some stuff that we had to talk about, which we did end up finding some resolve. But I was just hurt that, you know, it came up in the group.
Ben
So then came Michelle back to is telling Pinky, like that's not. When she was like, I don't have
Ronnie
anybody here but Kelly.
Ben
And I'm like, I'm like right here, you know? And Vicky's like, yeah, you were sitting right there.
Nick and Jack
It's like, yeah.
Ben
Now Kim, Michelle is hilarious because her whole thing was that Shamia went at the club, Shamia put her hands on K. Michelle's cheeks and said, I'm the only one who's willing to be friends with you. And K. Michelle's like, her, that's so obnoxious. I can't, I don't like her anymore. And I Have to imagine that that got back to Shamia, and now Shamia's like, well, I guess I really only have Kelly. And then. I mean, all I have is Pinky. And now Kelly. Kelly's whole thing is like, wait, but we're friends. And I said to her, like, we're gonna be friends because she tells us. She goes, I don't care if you're mad because you're gonna be my friend.
Ronnie
To see her look at the galley that way and be like, I don't
Ben
got nobody in this group but you. And I think that's really unfair, because when I've done nothing but have your back, except for when I told everyone
Ronnie
about how crazy you were at the
Ben
club, it's like, Kim Michelle is so all over the map at all times. It's like, wait, I thought you were angry at her. I thought you didn't even consider her a friend. You thought she was like, I can't get a read on K. Michelle. But it's like, that's what I'm. I. That's what I love about her. I love how ridiculous she is.
Ronnie
Well, she told Pinky that Shamia had said that. And then whoever was it, Pinky was
Ben
like, are you guys okay?
Ronnie
You need to bring it up in the group. They kept trying to make her bring it up in the group. And at first she was like, I'm not gonna do this. Isn't the right time to do this. And then they brought it up again for her to bring it up, so she had to kind of, in the Real Housewives kind of a way. But she's like, wait a minute. Has this caught up with her that she's mad at me now?
Ben
So then came Michelle saying, I feel like I was trying to make sure
Ronnie
she was all right, okay? And I was all over the.
Ben
Like, I didn't get no dick from her. Vicki's like, no dick. She's like, none of my bills are like, oh.
Nick and Jack
Oh.
Ben
Like, oh. And none of my bills being paid.
Ronnie
Nothing.
Ben
So I played life, Adrian, you know, because she just, like, feels better. She just goes, I love that. I love when she said that. That was so funny. I'm just gonna act like, Phaedra, Michelle is so funny.
Ronnie
So we go back to Shamia, and she's like, you know, I don't want to keep talking about it, but it's hard to move forward when you've been wronged and when they're saying your feelings are invalid, you know, and I have to be the bigger person. And it's always Me, who has to just apologize. And I'm tired of apologizing. Oh, Shamia, your apologies, please. They're not true. And that YouTube apology. I'm never gonn. That YouTube apology she gave after the reunion last year, that was shitty. Forever rent free in my mind, where she's like, everyone of everywhere. I apologize if ever you were offended by anything.
Ben
Yeah, that I have done. Okay, yeah, that was shitty. That was a bad move. And that's what sort of undermined all of her things that she said this season. She's like, oh, well, I've apologized already. It's like, no, you just give a blanket generalist apology. Doesn't count. So now it's night time of day two, and everyone gathers for their evening with their evening looks. And Pinky is. She's on her phone with. With her. Her vp, and she's like, I just want to say today is a day. I'm so frustrated right now because of the text messages I see back to back. It's always just something. You gotta pay 50 here. You gotta pay 20 here. You got this lawsuit that just came. This judgment. Oh, my God. So she's once again, she owes money left and right to all sorts of different vendors. And I'm like, why is it so disorganized? Well, is it so chaotic? Why can't this be fixed already?
Ronnie
Yeah. And watching somebody in, like, brand, you know, like really expensive brands, like, all dressed up, like, it's like, gorgeous, expensive sunglasses. Like, it's so hard. Like, everybody's asking for money for me, and I just can't take it anymore. You've got to pay employees, and you've got to pay for food. Yeah. You have a fucking restaurant business. What do you think is going on over there? Here, look, let me just suggest something. Spend $40,000 on a TV show about yourself.
Ben
I know that's going to fix everything. Everyone knows that independent pilots are always the fast track to success. They do well every single time.
Ronnie
Kenya was nothing before her sitcom pilot Twirl. What was it called? Like, the twirl goes off like life
Ben
twirls on or something. Life Twirl. The golden twirls. That actually would have been good.
Ronnie
I like her thriller Gone. Twirl,
Ben
Twirl. Interrupted.
Ronnie
Yeah, don't forget the trauma.
Ben
Trolls just want to have fun.
Ronnie
So they're like, oh, God, Angela, you'll be fine. Everything's gonna be fine. Okay, everybody gather around. Pinkies. Sorry. I said, Angela, Pinky is crying about being broken. Owing people money again. Pay your employees so then Drew comes in, and she's like, what's wrong with everybody? So they surround her and like, we're here for you.
Ben
We're here for you, everybody. It is funny. Angela's very blase. She's like, we're crying over money. I mean, it's just money. Like, I get that. Like, there's more important things in life because she's like, money comes and money goes. I've. I get that. But also, like, you know, like, when it's okay for money to come and money to go, but when it all has to go, like, right now at this moment, like, five or ten figures. Yeah.
Ronnie
It's also very rich for Angela to say that, who just, like, lost millions of dollars on deals that she's claiming that Charles didn't help her pay. Yeah, but come on.
Ben
Like, you.
Ronnie
It's easy to say when you're rich, you know, and you don't have money problems. You're like, what? It's just money. Oh, really?
Ben
Yeah. Oh, just 20,000 a year. I actually think that what Pinky's really crying about is more like, it just never ends. It's like, it's always something. It's always got to pay this, got to pay that. It's like. Like, you're like, it's not that the money is going. It's this idea that, like, I'm just trying to turn. Turn the boat around, and I. It's like the currents are just. It's like, oh, no. But, yeah, I still owe this. I still owe this. It's like, when can we stop going uphill? You know? But Andrew's like, it's just money. Don't worry about it.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
That's not like, I'm tired of this rat race. I'm tired of it.
Ronnie
Yeah, well, you don't want to hear that with anything. Like, oh, my God, this divorce is so hard. It's just divorce. It happens every day.
Ben
Like, oh, no, no.
Ronnie
So now they're gonna go out and they get onto their sprinter van or whatever, and Cynthia announces that she'll be late because she has to go see a pharmacist.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Was that.
Ben
Which.
Ronnie
Why didn't she take everybody? Someone posted on Reddit. Remember when Cynthia took everybody to the titty doctor and I was cracking up?
Ben
And it just shows all the LA
Ronnie
of Atlantis getting Dr.
Ben
So and so. I forget that do that. That doctor had a crazy name, too. It was like, Dr. Boobies or something. Yeah. She goes to pharmacist, and we don't really get a We didn't really get an update on that. Was she on under the Weather? What was happening? And then they all get.
Ronnie
Goes to the pharmacist that you don't say, how come? What are you getting? I mean, etc, but say, I don't know. Just don't tell me you're going to go to a pharmacist and then don't tell me what you're, what you're getting. I need to know.
Ben
I would love to see what a Scottish pharmacy looks like. I'm sure it's just like any other pharmacy, but in my mind, because when I watch these shows, I reduce everything down to the. Each country's like, stereotypes. I'm like, oh, that's where you go if you want to get cough medicine and a kilt and some haggis. It's like cbs, it's like haggis cv haggis. So Kelly, they're in the, they're in the sprinter van. And Kelly is wearing a McDowell's uniform from coming to America, which is very funny. And turns out that her man, her man gave it to her. My man, my man, my man. And then it's like, Shamia is very proud because she's like, I introduced them at a Hawks game. And then of course, Kelly's like, yes, and he paid for my seventy thousand dollar teeth. And like the rest of us here watching, Phaedra's like, yeah, this girl's got to get her priorities together. Because if a man comes to me offering me teeth when I actually need money to pay my bills, I'm going to be smart enough to say, just give me some Crest Whitening strips and then give me the $69,097 $972 for bill.
Ronnie
So Kelly's like, well, you know, I'm just glad that I found somebody, you know, because I don't want to become hateful because my situation is bad. You know, I've got someone giving me love. I've got somebody giving my money. And so Asha Angela asks, what's his sign? And Kelly's like, he's a Pisces. And so they talk about Pisces and stuff like that. So then Drew's like, so then they start talking about having to pee. And then Drew says, well, you know, hysterectomy. And I noticed that now I go to the bathroom a lot more and I have really frequent urination. And then they ordered me to physical therapy and they do the pelvic floor thing and they're like, what? And Phaedra's like, okay, you've got your vagina, you've got your cervix, and then you have a pelvic floor that will sometimes fall to the point that you have to have sex to knock it back up. And then begins pelvic floor talk, which, wow, I knew nothing about.
Ben
I've heard of the pelvic floor, and
Ronnie
the way it describes it sounds like a finger. Like, you go to the doctor and they finger you to put it back in there. That doesn't sound very bad.
Ben
Well, our note taker. Our note taker Shelby has. She's a lady and she can. Sometimes she's. She helps us here with these things, and she says this is not true about the having to have sex and knock your pelvic floor. She says this is not true. You have to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles, because what actually happens is the muscles weaken that support the pelvic organs, and sex will not fix that. So there you go, everyone. And I definitely knew that as well. I 100% knew that. So they talk about the pelvic floor, and I. I don't know about this. Getting fingered during physical therapy, it feels like you're not. Feels like it's. It feels like a strange choice.
Ronnie
Well, listen, if it took. If it took muscle to hold anything in, I'm super glad I'm not a woman, because I would just have it on the ground because I don't have any muscles anywhere, so.
Ben
Oh, wait. So Kelly said, like, wait, you got fingered in, like, in, like, physical therapy? And Shamia's like, how long? And Drew says it's for five minutes. And Shelby has further insights for us. She says this is done so the therapist can make sure you are tensing the muscles correctly and can evaluate the strength and stuff. This is a completely normal thing for pelvic floor therapy. Sorry if you don't care about this, but in case you didn't, I didn't know how much two gay men would know about it. And I didn't want you to be misguided. Thank you. You assessed that correctly.
Ronnie
Yeah, I didn't know. So now they're like, haha. Now we know why you're really going to physical therapy, Drew. To get fingered. And just like, who's her doctor? Is he taking new clients?
Ben
So now they do Kegels. Kegels to tighten everything up. And Portia leads, like, a Kegel workshop. And they're all sitting there in the van and they're doing like, 1, 2, 3, 4, breathe in, tighten, hold everything. And they do the whole. They do the whole process. This. Which is exciting. I think that actually men have to do Kegels too. I think like for that's help. It's helpful for bladder. Bladder stuff.
Ronnie
Wow.
Ben
So we should get our kegels on, I guess. So king our pants as we go into the second chapter of our lives. The second half.
Ronnie
Second half. Good God. I think I'm well into that. Not to be negative, but like I'm honestly shocked I'm still here. Did I tell you about eating french fries every day of the week? Week. So now we go to a kilt store.
Ben
I love this. I want to go. I want to go Scotland specifically just to go to the store. This was gorgeous. This stuff, these fabrics, these tartans. Oh my God, to die for.
Ronnie
Know. It was fine. A bunch of housewives going basically to a fabric store. So they stand around, they're like, what's a titan? And then they explained to them what that is. And so then they start talking about kilts and shimmy is like, you know, it's only right for those men to go commando underneath those kilts. Gives them more fashion flexibility. Free the bat, free the balls. Yeah. I love dicks. I love dicks. We know.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
You know, but.
Ben
But like let's. Let's relax here.
Ronnie
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WATCH WHAT CRAPPENS #3447 – RHOA S17E14 PART ONE: “SAUCY TARTAN”
(July 13, 2026)
In this lively episode, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam return from a rare week off to recap Season 17, Episode 14 of The Real Housewives of Atlanta, titled “Highland Games and Explosive Claims.” Setting the scene in Scotland, the duo dive deep into the ongoing falling out between Portia and Shamea, marveling at the explosive end to an otherwise lighthearted “fry festival” of an hour. As always, their trademark mix of Bravo obsession, personal sidetracks, and sharp character critiques is on full display.
The episode’s tone is quintessentially Watch What Crappens: playful, self-referential, and sharply observational. Ben and Ronnie’s banter balances pop culture tangents with incisive reality tv analysis and affectionate shade-throwing.
Part One of the RHOA S17E14 recap begins as a frothy Scottish adventure, but ultimately delivers insightful breakdowns of housewife dynamics, particularly the unraveling of the Portia-Shamia friendship. The last third ramps up the emotional stakes, leaving listeners eager for fireworks in Part Two. As always, Ben and Ronnie’s digressions (from potato festivals to pelvic floors) keep things fresh for listeners both casual and hardcore.
To continue the recap, find Part Two in their feed.