#3449 Crappy Hour Crappy Hour 7/13: Bravo Catch Up

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3448 "Crappy Hour 7/13: Bravo Catch Up"

Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Original Release: July 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie return for a jam-packed Crappy Hour after a short hiatus, catching up on all things Bravo. With their signature blend of snark, love, and sharp observation, they deep-dive into recent, especially juicy episodes of Below Deck, McBee Dynasty, In the City, The Valley, and more. They dissect reality TV drama, messy cast dynamics, and platform grievances, all while engaging with live chat comments and sharing memorable quotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Timestamps

1. Podcast Return & Recent Bravo Happenings

[02:47–07:09]

• Ben and Ronnie acknowledge their break and chat about their resurgent schedule, energy about returning, and appearances on other shows.
• Banter about coffee cake at a recent event (“Damn good coffee cake. Say anything you want about Janet...she can make a coffee cake.” – Michelle, [04:31]).

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2. Below Deck: The Semen Sheet Saga

[07:09–21:20]

Main Drama Recap

• Discussion centers on Below Deck’s notorious "sperm sheets" episode—an instant classic and endlessly dissected moment.
• Luke, the tall "Men’s Fitness model" with apparent nice-guy energy, is at the heart of the chaos with stew Jen and chef Joy in an awkward love triangle.
• Jen and Luke’s tryst, resulting in a very public “situation” involving soiled bed sheets, becomes the focal point.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You not only not saw it coming, but you didn’t even see it after it came.” – Ben, [08:46]
• “They circled that...spo ooning the cum stain.” – Ben, [12:23]
• “How do you not strip the bed off in that very moment?” – Michelle, [19:56]

Disgust, Cringe, and Ethics

• Ben and Michelle debate the severity—arguing it’s not only gross, but arguably a fireable, biohazard workplace offense ([16:34]).
• Both agree Luke’s plea of helplessness is BS: “Put the effort that you put into...building your arms into stripping the splooge off your boss’s bed.” – Michelle, [20:37]
• Jen’s cringe "I’m finally being chosen first" arc is dissected and lamented as possibly producer-driven ([15:22–15:41]).

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3. McBee Dynasty Recap & Off-Air Drama

[23:41–37:43]

Jesse's Fall from Grace

• Ben and Michelle react in horror to Jesse’s filet mignon “experience” order after his partner expresses financial concern ([23:41–25:12]).
• Jesse is branded as just another self-absorbed McBee.

Off-screen Gossip

• Discussion of alleged cast exits due to online "bullying" and social media feuds—especially Steve Jr.’s melodramatic reaction ([25:12–26:27]).
• Explosive Instagram accusations (Calla reveals secrets about Casey, including a pregnancy and abortion, [36:09]).
• “Kala gone too soon. RIP Kala. We will always miss, I believe.” – Michelle, [37:31]

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4. Platform Rants: Peacock’s Endless UX Hell

[26:30–31:10]

• Ben and Michelle go on a shared rant about Peacock’s infuriating interface: episode restarts, confusion between seasons, and cursor chaos.
• “It’s like, my cursor is never where I want it to be.” – Michelle, [28:18]
• Relatable frustration with how streaming services make navigating reality TV more stressful than the drama itself.

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5. In the City: Mom Card & Bedroom Battles

[37:47–45:35]

Connecticut Trip Dynamics

• The group trip in “In the City” features passive-aggressive drama around who gets the primary bedroom.
• Kenny’s sly undermining tactic puts Lindsay and Georgina in the hot seat for allegedly playing the “mom card.”

Classic Housewives Tension

• “It’s just like a passive-aggressive mounting, you know, of tension.” – Michelle, [40:45]

Kyle’s Metamucil Mishap

• Comic relief: Kyle OD’s on Metamucil, “gave himself an anal fissure,” and overshares at dinner ([43:43]).
• Lindsay drops bombs about Kyle’s “multiple affairs,” and group tension runs high.

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6. The Valley: Drunken Birthday & Relationship Fractures

[56:19–64:33]

Daniel’s Messy Birthday

• Danny’s party devolves as he drunkenly demands apologies and makes a scene about his drinking (“I can’t even get drunk anymore, right? These people...” – Ben, [57:38]).
• Lala doesn’t hold back, “Don’t talk to me like that. I ain’t your wife.” – Lala (quoted by Ben, [58:41])
• Nia steps in to “mother” her husband, while Danny’s behavior is called out as emotionally abusive and childish.

Kristen & Luke’s Relationship Drama

• Jesse stirs the pot by telling Kristen about Luke’s doubts, leading to a clumsy confrontation on a boat.
• “He already gave Kristen what she needed so that way she could look out the side of the boat...” – Michelle, [64:16]

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7. Quick Hits: House of the Dragon & Final Thoughts

[64:35–66:54]

House of the Dragon: Candle Shortages & Administrative Adventures

• Both hosts delight in the “boring” small-folk episode; Ben: “Classic Game of Thrones...finally gets the power...and they realize, this sucks.” ([65:31])
• “If we don’t have any candles, there’s a candle shortage. We need tallow.” – Michelle, [66:43]

Summer House Cast Update

• Confirmation of returning cast for Summer House; Ben jokes “named in an article” as not returning ([53:43–53:52]).

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Noteworthy Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• “You not only not saw it coming, but you didn’t even see it after it came. And then you cuddled with it and slept with it. That episode was amazing and disgusting.” – Ben ([08:46])
• “The best part of it is the chef watching. Watching the chef react to it has been so good.” – Ben ([14:32])
• “I actually think it’s a fireable offense...like, if you have your bodily fluid on a sheet that someone is sleeping...I think that’s a workplace violation.” – Michelle ([15:41])
• “Put the effort that you put into...building your arms into stripping the splooge off of your boss’s bed.” – Michelle ([20:37])
• “Kala gone too soon. Gone too soon. RIP Kala. We will always miss, I believe.” – Michelle ([37:31])
• “I love those Game of Thrones episodes where they’re just walking around King’s Landing dealing with the small folk...” – Michelle ([65:05])
• “Classic Game of Thrones: someone finally gets the power...and then they realize, this sucks.” – Ben ([65:31])

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The Hosts’ Tone, Style, & Audience Engagement

• Ben and Ronnie balance affection for Bravo content with open mockery and hilarious disgust, exaggerating reactions for maximum comic effect.
• Their camaraderie, rapid-fire jokes, and willingness to “go low” (especially about bodily fluids or app interfaces) is part of their show’s enduring appeal.
• Frequent reading of audience comments (“Everyone knows. And let me tell you something, HBO Max, you’re not exempt either...”), and inside-baseball references, keep regular listeners engaged and included.

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Conclusion

This episode is a rollicking catch-up on Bravo’s latest spectacle, with Below Deck's “sperm sheets” debacle as instant legend, an eye-roll at McBee Dynasty’s off-screen dramas, and thorough breakdowns of housewife power plays—plus rants about the real enemies: streaming apps. If you missed a week, this summary gives you the essentials, the laughs, and the best cringeworthy quotes the Crappens boys and their live audience had to offer.

Transcript

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[Ben]

Well hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie, that's Ben over there. Hel Ben, hello.

[Michelle]

Hello. How's it going? Hey baddies. I see the comments in the and on YouTube.

[Ben]

What's that from? Hi, everybody. Welcome back. It's nice to see you here. We took last week off, so it's been a long time of not talking about this channel with each other.

[Michelle]

I know we. Well, because we had last week off, so. Yeah. So it's been like our. In fact, our crappy hour schedule has been wonky since the beginning of June. And now I'm happy to report it's normal going forward because we had to take a week off in June for our cabaret and then we had to take a week off here in July. So it's been like a little. But now you should have did. But. But we're here. We're here. It's toyed. Special guest Toya. Toya Bush Harris. But we're back. Hello, everyone. We have already so many wonderful comments here. We missed you. Thank you. Victoria on air. Hope you enjoyed your time away. Absolutely. Did we have. It's been. It was great and refreshing and we just were shot out of canon today. I did. I did Jeff Lewis this morning with Janet, of all people. And then we did our two shows, and then now we're here.

[Ben]

We had Amazon in.

[Michelle]

It was fine. It was fun. She made a coffee cake. She brought in a coffee cake. I was like, you, you minx. Buttering me up. But, I mean, it wasn't for me. But, like, I like to think everything's for me.

[Ben]

And honestly, no one else is gonna eat the damn coffee cake. I mean, who ate it?

[Michelle]

I'm gonna tell you one thing. It was a damn good coffee case. This can make a coffee cake. Say anything you want about Janet. You can call her the Karen of all Karens. Tell her, say whatever you want. The can make a coffee cake.

[Ben]

And don't say at my wedding.

[Michelle]

She really can. She told. She said she used like a copycat Starbucks recipe. And it was like partially, partially, like yellow cake mix and partial homemade. And I'm like, I brought home a slice for Dom. I was like, this is really good. So that's the news. I. I know people are like, ben, give us the dirt. I'm like, she makes aid coffee cake. That's like the classic.

[Ben]

The woman makes a killer coffee cake. And she asked you about the crappies being nominated with Jax.

[Michelle]

Yes. She like what she had brought up on somewhere along the way about how we had nominated her with Jax and Jax and Denise's ex and who else? The other villains. Just how every guy in the category had done something like legitimate, like Lenny Hoxtein and everyone had done Something like bad. Like criminal or abusive. Yeah, like legit. Yeah. And we put. And then Janet got up there, and it's like, you know, I explain, you know, it's voter driven. It's a big pool. And she made the final cuts. But it's. It's true. Like, in the past, we used to have a category that was like, villains and then the worst, and, like, Jacks and all them would be in the worst and Janet would be in the villains. So I was like, you know, you're right. Like, you. You don't deserve to be on the same tier as, like, a Jax. But it was. It was fun. She was fun. We had a nice time.

[Ben]

Okay, well, that's good. I'm glad.

[Michelle]

I know.

[Ben]

Sorry.

[Michelle]

I wish I had a story about her being awful, but she was actually really nice.

[Ben]

No, no, I'm not fishing for a story about Janet being awful. Just asking how it went. I mean, stay. You did Stash. I did not.

[Michelle]

So she's like, wait, are we gonna become friends? I was like, probably. Sorry. But we like all the same things, unfortunately. You know, this is what happens.

[Ben]

I said, such a thing is taking things too far.

[Michelle]

You know, the problem is Heidi says no. I'm gonna try to be good about having a boundary on this one, though, because, you know, it's always dangerous with these Bravo liberties. One moment they're really nice, and you're like, oh, my God, I actually like them. And then one moment, you never know. But it was a. It was a nice. It was a pleasant little time. Says, never meet your heroes, Ben. Don't I know. Don't I know.

[Ben]

Right? Well, this week is all about. Just like, every time we do this, it's about Bravo headlines. But I wanted to ask you what you thought of the shows that we missed because, you know, we were off and thank God for Bravo, because I proved to myself that I would still be watching Bravo all the goddamn time, even if we didn't do this for work, because I love it. And every day I was like, what's on Bravo today? So, you know, of course we're keeping up with all our shows, but that's a lot of shows. I mean, that is a lot of TV to watch when you're not taking notes or thinking about what we have to do just for enjoyment. I was like, wow, Bravo really fills my life.

[Michelle]

I know it does. I kept up on my Bravo, like, honestly, voluntarily. You know, it's like, I really like these shows. I feel like, should we. Actually, this might be a really good time to Touch on some of the stuff that we missed last week. Sort of like, you know, what was, what were you. For you. Yeah. Well, we didn't have anything on Sunday because Atlanta took July 5th off. But I'll tell you, the one thing that we got probably the most messages about, I would wager, is what aired on July 6. I didn't see this episode coming. I would say, no pun intended. I would say, you know, I know Below Deck has a lot of semen on it, but I didn't see this coming. I mean, like, jeez, this is a lot.

[Ben]

Yeah, you not only not saw it coming, but you didn't even see it after it came. And then you cuddled with it and slept with it. That episode was amazing and disgusting. And I just watched the episode for this week. Yep, it's amazing. It looks like it's keeping. It looks like it's keeping it up.

[Michelle]

Okay, so this is a model, by the way. This is good. Just so everyone knows, this is not going to be a one off. This is going to come two or three more times.

[Ben]

Everyone get ready the gift that keeps on giving.

[Michelle]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So this show. Wow. So there's like a hot model guy. Kind of. He's a model, right? Yeah, he's a GQ model. He wanted to ever since he was a nerdy little boy. And finally he was on GQ or Men's Fitness or whatever. No, not gq. Men's Fitness. What's his name? I just watched Luke.

[Michelle]

Luke. Luke. Bravo does Blow Deck and Luke the name Luke and Blow Deck the all.

[Ben]

That's.

[Michelle]

It's a cursed name. I will say that.

[Ben]

That's true. This guy is cute, obviously. Really tall, really built, seemingly nice. I mean I thought. And listen, I am an asshole. I love to call people out in advance for being an asshole. And I do it probably for 90% of the people who I watch on TV. And then later I'm like, haha. I was right. They became an asshole. Because it's reality tv. Inevitably people are going to become an asshole. I thought, this guy's pretty nice.

[Michelle]

I thought so too. He had some like funny little jokes in the first few episodes where he did like little voices. I was like, oh, he's like a nerd who got muscular. I love that. What a douche.

[Ben]

So he likes the chef, the amazing French chef who. One of the best chef.

[Michelle]

The bests. One of the best. I was like, she already may be my favorite Bravo. Oh no, she's not my favorite Bravo. Lover of the year. Because you have the ladies of London. But like she is already. Especially after tonight's episode, everyone, we can't see what happens. But like I was like this. She is now at S tier on. On below deck. She just made it all the way up there.

[Ben]

Yeah, she is great.

[Michelle]

Joy.

[Ben]

So he likes Joy because Joy feeds him and he's a 6 foot 5 male fitness model. Like he needs calories and protein, so she feeds him. Also, she's really cute and hilarious, so he's attracted to her. But then he cut this. He kind of likes this stew too. Jen. And Jen is younger and more aggressively obnoxious and is going to pursue this man no matter. So anyway, finally, it's like kind of a love triangle. Jen seems kind of like a crazy person. Joy's like, I'm not fighting for a man. Jen ends up hooking up with the guy. They hook up in the buck, this tiny bunk. He's huge. They're fucking really loudly. Everybody hears them. Then the next. Then he's like, I'm sweating, so get out of the bed. So he moves her to the bottom bunk. When he moved her into Nathan's bunk, I already started yelling at the tv. You don't get to just go sleep in someone else's bunk. That's so rude and gross. And also, why are you sleeping on someone else's dirty sheets? That's also gross. So she goes down there. Then he wakes up in the morning and wants more. So he goes down and she gives him a hand job on camera and then he splooges all over the she. Then they get up and leave the room and he doesn't change the sheets. And then Nathan comes back from being with his baby and cuddles up next to the sperm stain for two days. And they circle that. They circled where it was and it was literally big. Spooning the cum stain. He was like, he was.

[Michelle]

Well, he was sleeping shirtless on his sheets. Okay, that was skin to crusty semen contact. And by the way, I could have sworn that Jen said, I'll clean those sheets. And I guess maybe Luke said something like, no, I'll do them. But. So all of last episode, he's like, well, every time I tried to go clean the sheets, the machines are running. I'm like, you pull those sheets off and you throw them on the floor of that laundry room. Whatever you do, that's a. It's your boss's bed. But even if it weren't your boss's bed, it's someone's bed. And like he just had this whole like, what am I supposed to do? And it turns out this is his whole Persona, which is very Joao like, which is like, well, I tried my best. And the episode ends with him not telling Jen, hey, look, last night was fun, but it was just like a one off. He's like, there's no more love triangle. And she goes, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. And somehow she has these, like, two little braids hanging down the front of her face and the rest of her hair is, like, frizz out. Like, she literally looks like Harley. Whatever.

[Ben]

It looked like her mascara or eyeliner or whatever was kind of running. She just looked. It was the craziest look she could have had for this conversation. It was one of those where he's telling us, oh, I'm completely cutting it off with her. I mean, we just saw it. I mean, we've seen it a million times, but we just saw this on a show where a guy's telling. Oh, west on Summer House, where the guy is telling us, oh, she's into me, but I'm not into her. And this is, you know, this is going to be so awkward. And I hope I'm being very clear with her that this is not going to happen. But what he's telling her, he's like, well, you and I, it's been so great. And, you know, I just want to kind of take a step back. And she's like, yeah. He's like, so there was a love triangle, but there's not anymore. So all she hears is, so you don't like the other girl anymore. You're mine. That's all she hears.

[Michelle]

Oh, my God, it's just so frustrating.

[Ben]

And the producers have deliciously not great. Like, she's, yeah, obnoxious as hell, and he's just such a douchebag. The best part of it is the chef watching. Watching the chef react to it has been so good. And then watching how everybody else is reacting to sleeping on sperm sheets, which we'll get to later. It's like, does everybody just. Is that just like a normal part of life? Like, whoops, just slept in my friend's, you know, pool of luge split. Yeah, what the hell?

[Michelle]

I. And also, like, the way I forgot I was gonna say. But, like, they keep on giving Jen these lines. Like, they clearly gave her the arc of, you know, oh, man, I'm never chosen first. So she relates everything to it. She's like, huh, wow. The tr.

[Ben]

The.

[Michelle]

The love triangle is closed. It's what I finally want to hear because I'm finally being chosen first. It's like they're making her say these ridiculous things. And I'm. For a moment I thought, is this girl, like, a producer plant? Like, is this actually. Is she just an actress that they hired for this show? But I think she is. Really.

[Ben]

Say it.

[Michelle]

For a moment, I thought, because it just seemed like what she was saying just didn't even sound, like, natural that a human would say. It seemed like something that, like, was written poorly, but I think she's just saying it. But what's what? She looks crazy. But, like, I really could not tell you all how disgusted I was that that splooge was there for three days. Not only was I discussed, like, oh, that's gross. I actually think it's a fireable offense because, like, if you have, like, your bodily fluid on a sheet that someone is sleeping, like, with direct contact, I think that's like, an extreme health violation. That's actually a workplace violation. And I actually don't know how Bravo is not responsible. Like, it's. It's like, it's. I was just, like, shocked by it, and I continue to be shocked, and it continues to unfold in tonight's episode, and I just am like. I'm like, it's a biohazard bowl. It's terrible.

[Ben]

You're right. I didn't even think about the part of. I can't believe Bravo's letting that happen, but I can. You're right. What the hell, Bravo? Like, if something were seeing somebody, somebody, like, put nuclear waste all over a bed, and then you're like, okay, ha. We're just going to watch them waste away in this nuclear waste. And I know sperm isn't nuclear waste, but it can be. We don't know what's in that.

[Michelle]

I don't know what's in that. I mean, I'm sure all the cast members get tested before they come on these shows. The rumor is that, like, on these reality shows, everyone gets tested, but I still think that's just, like, at the. At the worst, it's a biohazard at the best. And I'm saying best with quotes at the best, that's actually just like. Like a sexual. Like, what is that? Not misconduct. But it's like. Like, if you. If you just, like, have sperm on a chair in the office, that's. That's literally. I believe that's illegal.

[Ben]

When he was sleeping, he's like. Like this. And the sploos is right here, you know? Oh, it's just so, so nasty. And as Far as Jen, you know Jen, she's getting a ton of. On the Internet and she's responding too. Like, she's making videos like, oh, my God, you guys. And she's. I just. And I cover my head every time because, you know, I'm an uncle. She's just so young. She is so young. And I just want to go get in my, you know, like my little auntie van and go pick her up and take her around the block and just lecture her because we've all been that girl. I mean, I've been that girl, you know, many times. But oh, my God, it's just like, no. And just the way she's kind of competing and trying to make a competition with everybody else over this guy or Joy specifically. And Joy's like, I'm not competing with you. You. What are you talking about?

[Michelle]

It's just.

[Ben]

It's so deliciously cringe. But this guy. I mean, she's being villainized, I think more out of it because her personality is so much bigger. But this guy is just such a piece of.

[Michelle]

He is. But also, like, yeah, I think that he's the bigger villain. And I think you'll actually. Everyone will see that tonight especially. But I do think that, like, it was. I think it was like 90 on Luke to get those sheets cleaned. I think 10 of it was on Jen. I think that Jen, like, she should have recognized that this is something that was going to be bad for both of them and like, for. I think for all parties involved and like, just as a decent human to other human, knowing that Luke was being irresponsible and had not cleaned those sheets yet. If you're going by at least be like, you know what? Let me just take those sheets off and put them on the floor here. Like, I don't know. It's like, it's not on her because he said he would do it. But also, like, don't you have. Like, if you know that there's someone who's about to sleep in those sheets and. And you're like, you're not doing it because someone else said that they would. I just feel like that's. You're just being a bad person at that point.

[Ben]

True. And she's a stew.

[Michelle]

Like, you're literally trying for that.

[Ben]

The 90 number, you know, I would make.

[Michelle]

And she's claiming that she's a 42. Like, she's.

[Ben]

And you're the one that slept in someone else's bunk even if he told you to. You're a stew. And you went to sleep in someone else's bunk. That is disgusting. First of all. And then you gave someone you. I mean, the guy came. You know, you're both. They're. They're both responsible.

[Michelle]

How do you not strip the bed off in that very moment? The moment that you get off that bed? How do you not just pull that bed, those sheets, and then chuck them into the washer?

[Ben]

I don't sleep on my own spermy sheets. Okay, like, yeah, yeah,

[Michelle]

yeah. It's like, just strip. Like. Okay, Debbie here in the comments says just strip the. Just strip the sheets. Like, that's literally all you have to do. Okay, Strip them.

[Ben]

Because you don't. It's not like there's only one set of sheets. They keep acting like, well, the. Oh, the laundry wasn't even open. Who cares that the laundry was open? Put them in. Put them over there anyway. And get a sheet out of the closet. I mean, come on.

[Michelle]

Everyone knows what to do. It's like, it's this helplessness that Luke keeps on. You're presenting like, well, I tried my best, but I couldn't do it. He's like, you are not helpless. You're lazy. You're lazy. Put the effort that you put into chasing women and building your arms into stripping the splooge off of your boss's bed. And on top of that, it's your boss. Aside from the fact that's another human, it's your boss. Like, what?

[Ben]

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[Ben]

So the next one up was McBee Dynasty. Now you had watched this one a little bit before I watched it. You didn't prepare me for how infuriated I would be. I thought Jesse McBee was like so nice and his little smile, he's always got got this little smile and you know his brothers are always shitheads but just kind of like this little smile like hapless guy. Oh my God, I'm such an idiot. I'm such an idiot. I don't.

[Michelle]

They're all a little.

[Ben]

So this scene, he goes to dinner with Ally for a romantic dinner because they're not having sex and you know they're like distant and they've had a baby and so they're going to have this romantic dinner and I'm guessing he picks the fancy ass restaurant. So they go to this fancy steakhouse or whatever and she's looking at the menu and she's like, wow, are we going to share something? And he's like, why? She says, because it's kind of expensive. And he's like, you're working a lot. And then I started yelling. I was like, no, because, like, I believed in you. And then the waiter comes over and the waiter's like, what do you have? And he goes, I'll have the filet experience. He didn't. He ordered the most expensive thing on the menu and ordered the experience. That's probably for like five people. I. that moment, he died in my mind. I went to a funeral for him in my mind. Know Casey from Sesh. We took a picture of this guy, and I keep mentioning it on the show. Like, send me that picture, Casey. God damn it. I don't even want it. Keep it. Delete it off your phone. I never want to see it.

[Michelle]

Yeah, no, he's just a dick like all the rest of them. And did you see the thing that people were talking about last week? I guess amongst these text messages was that had leaked or were put out. He said that the whole family was quitting the show because the Bravo. Bravo fans are bullying them too much. Did you see that?

[Ben]

I think that was. You're saying Steve, Jr. Steve Jr. Was saying that? Yeah, yeah. Steve Jr. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's like, oh, everyone's bullying us. This is our last go around. No one. You, Stephen, you are not leaving tv. Please. You were on that Millionaire Farmer show or whatever, then this one, Then you hired a girlfriend for the next season. I mean.

[Michelle]

Yeah. Do you want us to believe that you're so thin skinned, you're such a snowflake that you can't deal with some Bravo. Some. Some Bravo criticism? Hello, you're on Bravo. This is part of the deal. You go on there, you put on a show, and then this. Our whole community comes after you. That's just what we do. Okay, Janet's still standing. Janet's making coffee cakes. She's like, come at me. I'll make you a coffee cake. And you're like, I gotta quit. Like, enough out of you, sir.

[Ben]

Yeah, I mean, I'll hand it to that one. She's got some strength. Strength, you know, she's got some. Some very thick skin.

[Michelle]

Yeah.

[Ben]

He's such a baby. Have you been. Oh, by the way, what I was

[Michelle]

gonna say, Savannah here in the comments says Peacock won't Let me remove McBee from my. Continue watching. And I'm like, I agree. It drives me nuts that I log on to Peacock to watch Love Island. And instead of having Love island on the front first page there, it, like, has me preset to McBee dynasty and have to scroll through the carousel to find Love Island. I was like, what is this cruel torture you're doing to me? I'm not watching the Key Dynasty.

[Ben]

Yeah. Peacock needs to work that, because I've been watching it all week. Well, I mean, I always watch it, but this week has been Love island and Love Island's every day. And if you're not caught up with Love island, you know you're watching a part because it's an hour and a half or two hours you're watching apart, then coming back later, it never remembers between devices where I am or it'll start playing the wrong episode.

[Michelle]

Always.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Michelle]

You know what I hate about the

[Ben]

Peacock at the end of Love Island? It puts on Married at first sight. Are you crazy? No, no, absolutely not. Not married at the 20th side. I don't want you.

[Michelle]

You know what? You know what I hate? You're like jazz hands. I hate when you go on today. I hate when you go into Peacock. Please tell me. Please write a comment here. Tell me if this happens. You know, it drives you nuts because this happens also on, I think on Hulu, but it happens on Peacock. Okay? You click on Love island, or maybe it's the Traders. Whatever it is, you click on the. In the front, okay? And you say, I want to watch episodes. So it takes you to the episode list, and what happens is the thing scrolls up, and now you have, like, a list of seasons on the left and a list of episodes on the right. So you hit down to go to the episode you want to look at, but it sends you to the episode, but it takes you to the seasons lists, and then all of a sudden, you're at season seven. So then you hit up, and then suddenly you're in the episodes. It's like, my cursor is never where I want it to be. Or sometimes when I hit, like, Love island, it takes me to the two lists and I hit, okay, send me like. I'm like, move to the right. Over to where the episodes are. But then it just takes me over to, like, McBee Dynasty because the cursor is still up with. On the show, level with the show carousel and not on the episode list. Does. Does this happen to anyone else? Does this absolutely drive them nuts? It should be that the episodes are directly under the show carousels. That way, when you hit the show, it brings up all the episodes, and you just keep hitting down and you Just go the episode. It's so confusing why they put us at this weird fork when we never know where the cursor is or where it's going. You guys all feel me? Look, everyone's here. Everyone's. Everyone's like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Everyone knows. And let me tell you something, HBO Max, you're not exempt either, because when those House the Dragons episodes ends, the credits come up and it makes the screen small. You have about three seconds to, like, make the screen big again to see the previews. And the thing is that you'd start moving your cursor, and it's. Who knows where it is on the screen, and you're. It's like a video game trying to get it over to the screen in time. And if you don't do it in time, it's like, congratulations, now you're watching something else on hbo.

[Ben]

Yeah. And I wonder if the people at HBO are like, I wonder why no one's watching the after the dragons thing where they interview the cast. And it's because you guys keep cutting it off two seconds after the credits roll. You wouldn't even know that. I know. Unless you were like, wait a second. This said it was going to be an hour and 15 minutes. And it's only an hour. What the hell? And go to extras. It used to. Anyway. Apps.

[Michelle]

You know what I also hate? You know what I also hate? You're so. Let's say you're watching Love island, and you're like five minutes in, and then you've got to step away and you come back, like, an hour later. Now Peacock thinks you've watched it. So you go to, like, watch Love island, and it's like, like, watch season eight, episode one. I'm like, I'm on episode 40. And you have to.

[Ben]

Someone just said it in the comments. The thing they'll say, okay, here's our. Here's our most popular shows. Love Island. Whatever, whatever. You click Love island. Because I've been watching that literally for 20 hours this week. And then it takes me to episode one so that it keeps going. You want to continue. And then they're like, this season on Love island, no. And I watch a plane fly overhead over and over until I realized, love me.

[Michelle]

What you have to do is. Then what you have to do is you have to scroll down to season seven, and they have to go to episode one, and they have to go up because that takes you to the latest episode of Love island season eight. It's like, literally so Annoying. Everyone knows that. That whole. That thing. But yeah, that's like. I felt so good to get that off my chest. How do you like. I love. They play that song so much. But does anyone actually know what that song is? Who sings it? What's it called? Where do you.

[Ben]

I don't know, but I love the. The ballad version at the end of Love island finale. They're like, if you love.

[Michelle]

I know.

[Ben]

Say it like you really do.

[Michelle]

I'm still laughing. Did this happen over break or did this happen when we were still beforehand? I'm still laughing. I think it was during break. They're doing an elimination, and, you know, they always do, like, the very slow covers. And they're like, okay, and now it's down to Corbin and Parmita and Kenzie and Dylan, etc. And then you hear it on the soundtrack. It's like, oh, think twice. Just another day for you and me in paradise. I'm like, that song is about a homeless lady. It's about homelessness. Why are you doing this slow version of Another Day in Paradise? It's like, we are the world, we are the children. That's about famine.

[Ben]

I know. Or they'll take off. They'll take off one word of the song to make it make sense. So they'd be like, we are the world, we are the. You know, just continue it like the song. That's not what the song is. Those aren't even the lyrics of the song. You can't just butcher the songs, you guys. I know.

[Michelle]

I feel like next Pretty funny season, next season, there'll be someone. Let me tell you something. If Melanie was ever Melanie from Philadelphia, if she were ever in true danger this season, I guarantee they would have done, like, a version of, like, the Streets of Philadelphia. It's like, that's about aids. They just don't seem to ever know the greater context of these songs. Candy shop.

[Ben]

We're going to the candy shop.

[Michelle]

No. Okay. Yeah.

[Ben]

So. Okay, so what was.

[Michelle]

Well, I was gonna say. Oh, no, by the way. I was gonna say, you finally got to see how dull that episode was. They all went to some, like, dreary old hotel somewhere in Kansas City. And then what's her face like? They got, like, their nails done in the basement of this hotel. Like, it looked like a basement. Look like a rec room. And then they're like, oh, hey, what's her name again? I was Casey. Like, hey, Casey, we're gonna go to dinner. You go ahead, and we'll meet you in the restaurant. And she's so dumb. She doesn't even think twice about, like, oh, this could be a SAP. She's like, okay, I'll do that. So then she goes, like. She goes out of the hotel. It's like, cold and rainy outside, and she walks out, and she's like. And then there's Cole McBee standing there with Blair amongst a bunch of, like, was it balloons or.

[Ben]

Whenever you say Blair, you. It's like it's a baby. And you're like, blair.

[Michelle]

And so he's, like, holding Blair. And then, like, there's. There's like, everywhere was a flower petals. And then she comes out. She's like, oh, my God. And then he's like. You know, he does his little. His little mouth. He's like. He's like, if it would be the dream of my lifetime if you. He's more like this one of these things if you would be my wife. And then they have to, like, put down Blair because Blair's too heavy for both of them because they're both handing Blair back and forth. So finally they put Blair down, and Blair's just eating rose petals. And I'm like, that kid's gonna throw up. Guys, hurry this up.

[Ben]

Eating rose petals. It just comes to Blair eating glue sticks from a bottle of gasoline.

[Michelle]

Can we get some Epic Hawk for Blair?

[Ben]

Geez. So have you been. I'm sure. Have you been keeping up with the McBee goss? Of course you haven't. But the show is just so. There's so much trash and juicy stuff going on on this show, off the show. So first up, there was the girlfriend, Ally, who, I mean, is so obnoxious. And of course, in the. In. In a fight between Steve McBee Jr. And Ally, I'm gonna choose Ally. Of course, that guy's a toxic idiot, but people were coming after her. Or I think one of the. I think Casey somebody posted that Ali started. Barely started dating him, Then he asked her to come film the show, and she refused to come do it until she had a contract. And they were posting this, like, ew, what a user. She would only come on the show if she had a contract. And then the comments were flaming them. Like, why are you liking this post? It's just showing that this girl is smarter than everybody on this show for actually caring about a bag and, like, coming on and making a living. Like, why are you going to shame Allie for it? Right? So first there was all of that stuff that I was loving reading the comments of. So then Casey mentioned Kala on the show. She's like, this girl's way nicer than Calla. She made some comment about Calla. So Calla posts, I was always nice to Casey.

[Michelle]

Another voice. Sorry, I was trying to do an Arrested Development quote. You just keep going, oh, God, it's a banana. How much could it be? $10.

[Ben]

So calla posts on Insta and she says, I was always nice to Casey. She's just mad I told everyone her secret about being pregnant. She said it was Kohl's, but it wasn't. Got an abortion at five months pregnant because Christy got a paternity test and it wasn't his. Lo. Please keep talking so I can feel better about spilling everything. Been holding off too long out of respect, but y' all can't keep my name out of your mouth.

[Michelle]

See, you have to do that on camera, Kala, so that way this show becomes interesting. Do it on camera. Don't wait.

[Ben]

Oh, Calla. Yeah, she would have. Kala had no problem doing on. On camera. That's why I liked Kala. She let them all have it, and that's why they all hate her. And now that they've got this other alley lady on the show, now they're kissing her ass because she's kissing their ass. And she's totally there, obviously, to be on tv, but who isn't, you know?

[Michelle]

Well, did you believe? What do you believe?

[Ben]

Kalistan from way back.

[Michelle]

You go, yeah. Do you believe? You know what? I'm not even gonna ask if I. It's like. It's like.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Michelle]

Yeah. I mean, first of all, I do believe. Of course I do believe. I still believe. Kala gone too soon. Gone too soon. RIP Kala. We will always miss, I believe, the.

[Ben]

Our future.

[Michelle]

So the city in the city, in this city, going from Missouri to the city in the city, they. This was a good episode too. The gang went on their. Their big trip for these. For the. For the. For the season. So they went. So they went from New York City, a very exotic place. They went all the way to the exotic climbs of Litchfield County, Connecticut. They're like, well, they're like, you know, this show is sort of built on going to WASPy locations. So let's go to Connecticut.

[Ben]

Season one. It's a. Season one. Er. You know, it was a good episode. You know, it's a five. It's a five dollar budget. But yeah, they. It was a very good episode. I was impressed.

[Michelle]

Yeah, it was really good because. Well, first you had a stupid pin. Not pinball, paintball moment, which, whatever. But then they. They all go up to this house in Connecticut. The idea is that this will smooth things over because Yvonne was really mad that they were fighting and yelling at, like, her umpteen wedding celebration.

[Ben]

So.

[Michelle]

So they go to this house. And so Kenny is such an underminer. He knows exactly what he's doing, so he makes, without asking, running it by Lindsay, his co host. He just kind of floats it to Yvonne. Like, I feel so bad about what happened at your wedding dinner that I think you should have the. The primary bedroom. But the thing is, at that point, point, Lindsay and Georgina had already claimed the primary because they're like, where are the moms? So they play the mom card, which I actually think is, like a fair use of the mom card in this situation. And so then now it winds up where Yvonne is, like, excited for this make good on the. On the dinner party that they had. But, like, she. But now Lindsay looks like the bad guy for not letting Yvonne have the bedroom. But then also, like, it makes Yvonne look bad. It's like. It's like evil. Lindsay's like, what the? Like, I. I planned this trip, and I'm like the ranking senior here of our reality stars. So, like, what the are you doing? So it becomes a whole classic Real Housewives type fight.

[Ben]

Well, it's very summer house bitterness with. I don't know, bitterness, but it's probably really annoying to Lindsay that summer house. Every single season, Amanda and Kyle take the master bedroom because they're a couple, and that's been their excuse to get away with for a decade. And then finally, they're not a couple. So Lindsay's like, okay, well, I planned this trip. I'm gonna take it. By the way, it's not some glamorous room with, like two beds where there'll be luxurious. You're still sleeping in a bed with your friend and sharing a bathroom with your friend. It's not like this great luxury anyway that everybody's so incensed with Lindsay over. So they're like, we're gonna take you guys. Don't get the room. And doesn't. It's not even a fight, really. Right.

[Michelle]

Well, it's just like a passive aggressive mounting, you know, of tension, you know,

[Ben]

so ding dong, Whitney goes. And she's like, you know, they need to stop playing the mom card. Which, of course, Georgina immediately goes to repeat to Lindsay. Well, because, no, it's not Georgina.

[Michelle]

It's. It's. What's. It's not Georgina. It's Lexi. Lexi is like, oh, Lexi. I've never felt like she ever did the mom card. So then she goes right over to Georgina, and she's like. She's saying that you played the mom card. And Georgina's like, what? And then Lindsay's like.

[Ben]

As if, by the way, they were both playing it. Lindsay and Georgia were both playing it. Right?

[Michelle]

As if Whitney will not be the very first to not only play the mom card, but got the oversized version from, like, cvs. Okay? She will be playing that mom card so hard, like, it's just. It's all over Whitney, that if she is. If she ever does have a mom card, she will play. And if she doesn't have it, she'll play every card. You know she will. It's.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. It's gonna be fed into our FYP pages every day with Whitney, and there's a boring little baby like, hi, my mom. We know. You know, and I think that moms are. I think you're allowed to play that card. If you go on a trip and you're like, we have two. Or we have multiple tiny children screaming in our faces all day. Sounds good to me. Go for it. You know, especially so where there's so many couples, it's like, okay, you guys are all in a couple. That's the luxury is not having to take care of these little. Mostly alone. So I win the room. So I kind of like that switch.

[Michelle]

Personally, if it were me, there was, like, one room that had a. Like, a. It was a single bed that was a twin bed. I'd have just taken that. I'd be like, I'm just gonna be alone, closing that door. I would rather have a small room and be alone than having to share and have, like, I' Just give me my alone time, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. Or even two twins. You know, the one with two twin beds that Kyle and Amanda had to take. And Amanda's like, oh, my God. Like, I'm in this room with my husband, and I can. You know, whatever. I would have taken that room. That room looked like the most luxurious to me. But that was a good episode. But I wanted to read you this because Georgina posted. Because. First of, I'm saying because a lot of. Because. I don't know why.

[Michelle]

Because. Because.

[Ben]

Because I went to paintball before this, and it was wacky. And then they went on this drive. So Georgina said, at paintball. A, A. At paintball, Kenny told Lindsay that since the two of them were hosts, they would get the first pick of rooms. B. In the car before that, Kenny suggested Yvonne and Nick take the primary. C. Two totally different plans. The Latter of which was never discussed with Lindsay. The opposite effect was said to her. See point A above D. Yeah, sounds like a setup to me. E. I love the Alphabet.

[Michelle]

G. My son just realized that the poop in his diaper is actually just crumbled up Oreo. He's on to me. So, yeah, so this was just classic Kenny being an underminer. The other. Speaking of. Etc, in the middle of this entire episode, Kyle stops everything to make an announcement, which is that he OD'd on Metamucil. He took four times the recommended amounts, and he gave himself an anal fissure. And so he had to, like, soak in a bathtub.

[Ben]

No one needs to hear that, Kyle, you know, it's like, too much. He's a. He's a big proponent of you got to put everything out there. We're on a reality not. And while we're speaking of putting everything out there, Lindsay totally outed him at the dinner for having multiple affairs. Because, of course, the group dinner on the vacation has to be Amanda and Kyle. And who started it? Gavin. My favorite little mess. My favorite little mess on that. He starts. He's like the male Lindsay. He will start it. He'll take whatever is going on, bring it up. But the thing is, all he did was bring it up. And then Amanda and Kyle just go. They start going. And Amanda's. It's the same thing as we've seen a million times. He's gonna be a DJ now. He got some gigs. Amanda's super upset, and she's officially gonna be done with the marriage now because Kyle, you know, is going to be a successful dj. And she starts crying and having this big fit and she leaves. And Lindsay's standing up for her.

[Michelle]

And. Yeah, that's why.

[Ben]

Whatever. Yeah, she's like, whatever. Why is this always Amanda's fault? I mean, Kyle's had multiple affairs, and they keep. Keep. You know, and she keeps forgiving him, and they're like, multiple. And she's like, yeah, we just don't talk about it. Oh, but we say we have to sit here and listen to Kyle talk about his logs and his bleeding butthole. Why can't he talk about the affairs that he never remembers?

[Michelle]

So Lindsay outs this because at this point, Kyle, like, at this place where they think the edit is, is that Kyle is just being a terrible husband and negligent. And Amanda has been crying out for help and just wants him to stop drinking. So that's why Lindsay's like, fine, I'm gonna pull out some big guns here. You know, not realizing that this was gonna ultimately backfire in her face because Amanda would be the one who would prove to be the villain. But Andrea's like, well, as another married man, you can't. You can't go out as much anymore. As a married man, you can't do that any kind of, like, as a matter of man, like, why do you keep on saying Mary Magic? What is a marriage? Like, stop seeing that man. Stop saying that. And Kyle loses his.

[Ben]

I kind of like that, though, because I don't like when. And Kyle made a good point against Andrea. He's like, stop with this. Oh, when you. When you're married. I've been married 10 years. You've been married for, like, five minutes. Give me a break. He's like, get back to me when the honeymoon's over.

[Michelle]

Yeah, seriously. Although he's been married only for, like, three years, but he did say, I've got 10 years on you. He's like, I got 10 years on you.

[Ben]

Well, yeah, yeah, you're right. Still that he hasn't actually been married. But I mean. Hey, commercials. Here comes one right now. One thing my mom loves is to bargain hunt. She will go to a garage sale, to a flea market, any old sale at the mall. I'm taking her from sale to sale to sale to sale, and I finally found someplace online that I can just park her and she'll have the time of her life. And that is whatnot.

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[Michelle]

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[Ben]

It's like, oh, really?

[Michelle]

So now I'm gonna defend you, like, because I was, like, really upset, and you weren't helping. Well, I'm sorry. Was that, like, a serious apology? Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay, thanks.

[Ben]

I mean, listen, I'm always toxically on Lindsay's side with stuff like this. I'm on her side against Yvonne. I think Yvonne was being a total. Was. Yvonne's been married. She's had multiple. As Lindsay pointed out. I like that Lindsay was like, I'm sorry that, you know, everything. Did your city hall on your ceremony. Yeah. You're up to celebration. We've had, like, 30, 000 celebrations for you, lady. And this was on TV on the show that I brought you on to. She didn't say all that, but that's what I was saying. Back to the tv.

[Michelle]

Lindsay's been on fire with in the city. I think she's been so funny, and she's been just like. I think she's been just reading people left and right. I do think, like, like, yeah, Yvonne has definitely been taking a victory lap with this whole, like, wedding situation. But, like, if you guys are best friends, and she did plan a dinner, and she's like, you. You were so busy doing this other stuff, you weren't even defending me. I think Lindsay is allowed. Should. Should say, you know, you're right. I. I could have been a better friend to you. But also. And then she sort of got there, and I think Yvonne just was like, okay, this is the best I'm gonna get out of her. I can't do anything better.

[Ben]

Lindsay was making it her. As Yvonne was doing this whole, like, but you're supposed to be my friend, and that was my wedding. And the look that Lizzie had on her face was like this controlled rage. And I was taking it very much as, here we go. I bring you on to a TV show, and the first thing I probably made you promise me was not to turn on me for TV time. And here you are trying to start with me for TV time. That's how I took it. She did not say that, but that's how I would feel if I was Lindsay. Like, what the hell, lady? You like, like, you know, I think it's. We're seeing it with Shimia and Porsche, too. It's kind of what we're talking about on that show where it's like, oh, my gosh. This. This is what happens on reality tv. And the first thing you do in the first season is try and make this into a fight with me. Come on.

[Michelle]

Yeah. Lindsay definitely has been having, like. She has been making a feast of this. She has been going nuts on threads. Like, I went on the other day. She's like, like, oh. With everything, like, since the whole, like, west and Amanda thing happened. She is. Because, you know, Sierra really exploded on threads. And I think Lindsay's like, I'm gonna do it too. And I, like, went on the other day, and she's like, if you talk about someone every single day and not just chatter, but you, like, really go at them every single day, it's called cyberbullying. I was like, oh, Lindsay is just. She is having a field day with threads, right? Like, every day she has some announcement, and guess what? I love it. Like, just bring it on. She's. She's doing such a good job job. This would be a good time to mention that. Two hours ago, even though it was pretty much confirmed, Bravo did confirm that the returning cast for Summer House that's already filming is, of course, Kyle, Carl, Lindsay, Jesse, Sierra, Bailey, mia, kj. And I think it's just. I think it's just eight of them are the ones who are guaranteed and not me, of course. Sorry everyone won't be there.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, Ben was an out. Ben was named in an article. He's not coming back. I said, ben Metelker won't be coming back. Which was. Which was a huge shame.

[Michelle]

They said, I did not connect with the cast.

[Ben]

I was like, wow, that Lindsay coming out and saying, hey, you're a bully. That was to Queens of Bravo, I think, because Queens of Bravo is always posting stuff about her, but then the comments or the replies or whatever. Oh, well, what about you coming after Amanda every day or whoever. You don't like coming after them every day. And then the argument is like, well, that's, you know, the plot of a TV show, and that's someone she actually knows. And it's different than just being some rando on the Internet. I don't know. I'm usually on Lindsay's side on the show, but not as much on Internet.

[Michelle]

I just think it's funny. I just, like. I just, like, there's. Because I just read. I hear her. I hear her thread things in her voice, and I always think that's funny. It's like Corbin from Love Island. He had an interview with Variety, and the entire interview, I just heard his voice the entire time. He's. Because. Even. Because they're like, what did you Think about being on Love Island. And he literally answers like, well, I just, like, even in his answers, he's so Corbin. Like, like, that was dead. Barmita's got something special. Like,

[Ben]

let me be honest with you, that's what I.

[Michelle]

That's what he.

[Ben]

He says that all the time. And Sincere is like, to be honest. Like, to be honest with you before he lies his face off.

[Michelle]

I know. I can't. I can't wait for Sincere's exit interviews. Like, well, I've done a lot of. I've done a lot of, like, thinking and introspection, and I've learned a lot. It's kind of like when you go to a Cheesecake Factory and you can get like a poke bowl, but also a cheesecake, and you can get both. But, like, you learn from the poke bowl before you have the cheesecake. But I'm a wiser man now. Like, shut up here.

[Ben]

If you're playing cards and then you have, like a deck of cards, but then you, like, pull out a baseball and then you, like, put down the baseball, are you still even playing cards?

[Michelle]

Melanie's like, I'm gonna follow my heart. I love that Melanie, when she, like, gets emotional, she clenches her mouth. She's like, I don't care what anyone says. I'm gonna follow my heart. And her mom is like, why. Why wait for him to have a second chance when so many are waiting for their first? I was like, oh.

[Ben]

So that was. That was gold. The mom and then the sincerest dad coming on and just telling him off and letting him have it for the entire hour was pretty good. Or the entire two hours was pretty great too. Okay, so after in the Valley, what else did we have?

[Michelle]

The Valley. The Valley. The Valley.

[Ben]

We're still on this trip, so obviously friend vacation of all time. Time.

[Michelle]

I know, I love it.

[Ben]

Just go home, all of you.

[Michelle]

Obviously, Janet has a very powerful scene where she shares about, you know, experiences that, you know, sexual assault experiences that traumatize her, that, that, and that actually really inform a lot of her reactions. But in terms of the, the, the. The quote, unquote, lighter stuff on the show, the big thing that happens is that. That. Danny. Danny. It's Danny's birthday. Let's go. And he. They're all at the beach at this Miami Vice themed, you know, party. Who is the person that he goes up to? Does he go up to Jasmine?

[Ben]

She.

[Michelle]

He goes up to Jasmine and is like. He starts asking about. I think it's Jasmine. You guys help me. He basically starts Asking questions about like what the group is saying about him and the drinking, etc. Etc. And it turns into another big fight about the drinking. And then he starts getting mad that like everything always has to turn into this. It's like, bro, you were the one who brought it up. Whoever it was that you brought it up to, you were the one who started this.

[Ben]

Well, it was Michelle. It was Michelle for Zach's party. Nia was like, don't move your hips, Daniel, because you're gonna upset people. You're gonna make them uncomfortable. So then he wastedly there. It's like, I can't even get drunk anymore, right? These people, I what am I gonna make you uncomfortable? It was disgusting in that whole episode. And then he shows up and starts it again. Danny, no one would be talking about it if you didn't go around to every single person demanding an apology. You don't deserve an apology. Like what are you, what are you talking about?

[Michelle]

Making it like a thing. And he's complaining and then he's like, he's like all angry that people are bringing it up. Which he was the one who brought it up up because he basically said to Michelle's like, I heard that you got that. Apparently I make everyone uncomfortable. She's like, no, I'm just saying that when you drink you'll make people uncomfortable. So then he starts like getting all like petulant about it. And then Lala's like, what's wrong, Danny? Why are you saying this? And he's like, oh, whatever, whatever this. And she's like, don't talk to me like that. I ain't your wife.

[Ben]

I'm not the, I'm not that. I'm not the one to come to. So she started. And by the way, he's sitting down with mostly the guys, right? Bitching to them, like everyone's shade. I make them uncomfortable. And then Lala just comes and sits down and starts it with him and has it out, which I loved. So then he. She puts him in his place pretty well. You know, Lala's great when she's aimed at somebody you don't like. Yeah, she was, you know, because she's like non stop.

[Michelle]

She called him like a Polly Pocket or something. Yes.

[Ben]

So she goes after him and reads him for filth. And then Nia keeps. Daniel, Daniel, don't come on Daniel. And then he keeps going and he's wasted and belligerent also just making everybody point again for another episode in the row.

[Michelle]

Exactly. And she, but. But then she like, she survives like is like right in his face. Like she comes like around, he's sitting in a chair and he. She like comes around and she's like putting her face in front of his face and she goes, daniel, can you look at your wife? Can you look at your wife? Can you focus on your wife? He's like, but they're saying all these things about me. Can we not focus what they're saying? Can you focus on what your wife is saying?

[Ben]

Daniel. Daniel.

[Michelle]

I'm like, just bring him a ju. Like a, like a, like a sippy cup. Bring him like a, a juice box or whatever. Like he was, she was actually treating him like a literal six year old, which he was being a six year old, but I was also like, this is such a up like, like relationship dynamic that she comes in, she steps into a mother role with him and then he's like, he's just like a. Like I felt like he should have had like one of those little hats with the propellers on it. Right? Like he. It was just so bizarre to watch this dynamic.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's. It's pretty rough going. And then she, he walks off, off. And then Lala come, you know, he's still bitching or whatever and Lala hears him to come fight with him. So they're like this. And then Nia stands in between them so that Lala can't talk to Danny. Look, I know that Nia's trying to protect this guy from looking like a drunk abusive on tv, but too late already. And it's been the whole entire season of him acting like this, this. And you're the one who went up to him at the gay bar and was like, you're making everyone uncomfortable, Daniel. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like she's kind of like poking him and then being like, Daniel, it's, It's pretty. The whole, the whole. Yeah, the whole dynamic is pretty fun.

[Michelle]

Well, the hips thing too is like no one was saying about the hips, right? And when Ray was on the show, she made such a great point about like all they can see is uncomfortability in terms of like sexual. And it's like it's not just that. It's that you're just acting in ways that are so deeply annoying. And what was so funny is that like Nia goes up, she leaves him and he stays there at the bar. He's like, it's my birthday. And he's crying because he's like, I was just looking forward to like ending the night and walking up to The. To the room with my wife and having an intimate moment. I was really looking forward to that moment. It's not gonna happen. I was like, you're crying because you're not having sex tonight. That's what you're doing right now.

[Ben]

Oh, God. She's, like, sitting there. She's got the baby. She's got all the. She's got this baby that's still lots to her. And he's like, what about the birthday shakes earlier? And like, oh, God, I don't know. The babies in the room, we shouldn't do that in front of the baby. Goes, you can make an adjustment or something. He says something. He's just so chillingly disgusting, this guy. I thought Jasmine was great in this one, too, when she said, you know, this Danny. It's like, it's not even the sexual stuff at this point. Like, it's how you talk to women. It's how you're approaching women. He's like, getting in everybody, in all these women's faces and confronting think, what are you doing? What are you doing? How stupid are you? At this point? I don't know this. That show is still one of the most frustrating for me to watch. It's. As I said earlier on this season, I feel like this show is just making us watch guys act abusively towards their wives, and I don't like it. It's like, you got rid of Jax doing that, and now we have Danny doing that. And, like, I just don't. I don't find it entertaining. I just. I can't.

[Michelle]

Can't.

[Ben]

No.

[Michelle]

Well, there's two more episodes. Two more episodes, and then probably three reunions. So get ready. Maybe two reunions, I don't know. But, like, it's gonna be with us for at least four more weeks.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. And then Kristen and Luke on the boat. Kristen comes up and she's like, oh, God.

[Michelle]

Well, this is Jesse's fault too,

[Ben]

being

[Michelle]

a real dick, as usual.

[Ben]

Jesse's getting off very easy this season, I think, because of things going on with everybody else. But, yeah, Jesse's still gross.

[Michelle]

Well, because he goes up to Kristen and says, by the way, is everything okay? Because I spoke with Luke last night, and Luke said he doesn't see himself marrying you. And it's like, why would you say that? Like, why. Why would you butt in like that? And also, you don't know the. Like. Like. Like, you don't under. Like, it's so. You know, they are struggling so hard, and they seem to be having a good day. Why would you do that? That.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then, of course, Kristen goes up on this boat, and Luke's drunk and he's lying down, and Kristen's like, did you.

[Michelle]

Do you.

[Ben]

You don't see yourself with me? And then Luke, because Luke is an idiot as well, is like, well, I wouldn't marry you tomorrow. I mean, with everything we've got going on. Why? What. So then Chris s. Get. Oh, my God. This.

[Michelle]

This. Well, he said something very callous. He said something callous along the lines of, like, well, apparently, I'm not allowed to have any emotions if. You're not allowed.

[Ben]

If.

[Michelle]

Like, you're the only one here who's allowed to have emotions. Something like that. And he's like, sorry, that was Dick and Chris. Like, it's fine. Like, he already gave Kristen what she needed so that way she could look out the side of the boat, like. So he's like, okay, I'm gonna walk away. Yeah, old show.

[Ben]

So what's the last one? O.C.

[Michelle]

the last one. Well, we already. We recapped O.C. someone in the comments wanted us to talk about last week's House of the Dragons. So I. I really. I'm loving this season. And I will say what I really liked about. Not last night's, because we'll talk about that tomorrow, but last week's. I like that it was just a big old administrative episode. I love those Game of Thrones episodes where they're just walking around King's Landing dealing with the small folk and, like, my.

[Ben]

She.

[Michelle]

I need. I need money for my sheep. And then someone else is like, we're out of candles. Well, this is priority. We're out of candles. And I'm like, I love that. I love. I love when it's just like. Like, have to deal with all this. It's like Judge Judy. It's like the Judge Judy episode where, like, everyone has to, like, make their appeals. And, like, I. I really dig those episodes more so than the sweeping, epic things sometimes. So I loved, love, love.

[Ben]

Well, that is classic Game of Thrones where someone finally gets the power that they've been fighting so hard for, and then they get there and they realize, this sucks. Like, you're now the leader of all these people who are just bugging you over the dumbest you.

[Michelle]

She was on her Hungari the first day, you know. Yeah.

[Ben]

It's not, you know, nothing, but. Yeah. And then, yeah, she has her period on the very first day.

[Michelle]

She's like, worst castle.

[Ben]

You know, there's rats. That was because Aegon killed all the rat catchers, so there's no rat catchers left.

[Michelle]

But then she served the rats as like a meal. As like, guess what, rich people.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Michelle]

You now have to give us money. Yeah, I, I enjoyed it. I think that this season of House the Dragon is like really working for me because it feels very multi dimensional for the first time. It feels like there's like lots of different things having different places that are all intertwining. It's not as like two dimensional. So I'm all about it. And let me tell you something, I've never, I've never identified more with a show than when that guy was like, we're out of candle. What do I do? If we don't have any candles, there's a candle shortage. We need tallow. I was like, yeah,

[Ben]

we need talos like the McBees this week. Yikes.

[Michelle]

McBee tallow for.

[Ben]

Yeah, the tallow episode is on tonight for McBee and yikes.

[Michelle]

Oh, can't wait.

[Ben]

So that covers the week of that. We are going to finish the audio version of this now and chat with a few of you guys on video. So if you want to chat with us on video, just stay here on YouTube for everybody on Instagram and on audio. Thanks so much for being here. We'll see you in another couple of weeks and join us on the regular podcast every day. Of course.

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