#3455 McBee Dynasty S03E05: The Tallow-Tale Heart

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3455

"McBee Dynasty S03E05: The Tallow-Tale Heart" – July 15, 2026
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Main Bravo Recap: The pod dives into the latest episode of "McBee Dynasty," mocking, dissecting, and delighting in the outrageousness of the McBee family’s farm saga. This episode zeroes in on the newly-unveiled "tallow" skincare plot, the family’s wild dynamics, and marital woes, with Ben and Ronnie’s classic banter, tangents, and memorable quips.

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Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie take on "McBee Dynasty" S03E05 ("The Tallow-Tale Heart"), analyzing the chaos surrounding the McBee family farm, the launch of a beef tallow skincare business, and the increasingly dysfunctional marriages and relationships. They lampoon the cast’s entrepreneurial (and amorous) misadventures, lending their sharp, affectionate snark to every storyline—from brainstorming the perfect woman to divvying up a (supposedly) booming side hustle.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jesse & Ali’s Rocky Marriage

• Tension Over Money: Ronnie is aghast that Jesse chooses the Wagyu Experience ($170!) at dinner after Ali expresses money concerns. “She just said she wanted to save money, and you order the most expensive thing? … What a pig.” (Ronnie, 07:14)
• Intimacy Woes: Repeated mention of both Jesse and Ali struggling to initiate romance. They try a couple’s game, revealing they’ve lost their spark and neither wants to make the first move.
• Distance & Communication: Ali laments Jesse prioritizing the farm and his brothers over their marriage and newborn. Jesse feels unappreciated and claims Ali isn’t excited to see him anymore.
• Meta-Mocking: Ben compares the excitement of their marriage to that of opening a tractor door for the first time. (“Does anybody even know you’re there? Like, the door has more personality.” – Ben, 92:51)

2. The Tallow Skincare Saga

• Launch & Drama: Casey starts a beef tallow-based skincare line using kidney fat from the meat processing plant. The process is—unappetizingly—shown onscreen, much to Ronnie’s horror: “Who would want to put that on their face after seeing this?” (36:38)
• Ownership Debates: Steve Jr. tries to muscle in, proposing a split with Ally (his girlfriend, newly arrived) immediately getting 20% equity for her “online sales” expertise. Both Ben and Ronnie are incredulous:
  • “No, if you want to use Ally’s expertise, you hire her as a contractor, she doesn’t get ownership!” (Ben, 82:01)
• Packaging Insults: The boys mock the “extreme mayonnaise” branding: “It literally looks like a jar of beefy mayonnaise.” (Ben, 64:47)
• Undermining the Woman Who Did the Work: Ben points out Steve’s pattern of ignoring projects until they’re successful, then swooping in—"Classic move. He’s just mad he missed the boat!” (72:49)

3. Perfect Woman Fantasies

• Steve Jr.’s Insane List: The hosts read and skewer Steve Jr.’s written list of qualities for his "dream woman"—height, hair color, body type, daily schedule, “leader of women,” and even includes an hourly agenda.
  • “I want a girl that comes off as elegant and classy, people respect for her intellect… as or more than how she looks.” (Ronnie, reading Steve Jr., 10:03)
• Critique: Ronnie comments, “Every second of the day you got planned out for your f---ing wife. … What is wrong with this person?” (Ronnie, 16:03)

4. Boudoir Calendar for Jailbait Dad

• Masha’s Big Boudoir Shoot: In the most “only on Bravo” moment, Masha (Steve Jr.’s partner) decides to send a sexy calendar to Steve Sr. in jail, with Ally Art Directing.
• Awkwardness & Mockery: “Imagine, like, a photo for two of the months, and the rest just empty space.” (Ben, 29:41)
• Concerns Raised: Ronnie, ever sage: “Don’t be circulating nudie pictures of yourself in a prison full of men.” (29:48)

5. Galina Gets Excluded (Again)

• Not Invited: The group pokes fun at Galina, who’s omitted from major family events and accused of “partying with housewives” on weekends.
• Shady Support: Ben rationalizes her “Instagramming” as raising the profile for the show: “She’s bringing money to you guys.” (57:28)

6. Business "Discussion" and Equity Debates

• Hot Topic: Ben and Ronnie poke at the family’s pattern of waiting until a woman builds a successful business, then all the men rush in with “helpful” hands—and greedy grabs for equity.
  • “Now that it's making some money, I'm gonna go take it from my wife because my company. Oh, gross.” (Ronnie, 88:50)
• Hosts’ Verdict: The only one who deserves equity is Casey (and “possibly Galina for meme potential”).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jesse’s steakhouse move:
  “She just said she wanted to save money, and you order the most expensive thing? … What a pig.” – Ronnie (07:14)
• On Steve Jr.’s dream woman schedule:
  “Every second of the day you got planned out for your fucking wife. … What is wrong with this person?” – Ronnie (16:03)
• Tallow packaging review:
  “It literally looks like a jar of beefy mayonnaise.” – Ben (64:47)
• Mocking family ‘spark’:
  “Does anybody even know you’re there? Like, the door has more personality.” – Ben (92:51)
• Business sense:
  “No, if you want to use Ally’s expertise, you hire her as a contractor, she doesn’t get ownership!” – Ben (82:01)
• Masha’s calendar for Dad:
  “Don’t be circulating nudie pictures of yourself in a prison full of men.” – Ronnie (29:48)
• On the family dynamic:
  “The classic move. He’s just mad he missed the boat!” – Ben on Steve Jr. muscling into Tallow, (72:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:54] — Jesse orders the Wagyu; Ronnie’s rant on money, character, and hot cowboys.
• [09:04] — Steve Jr.’s “perfect woman” list (“Between 5’6" and 5’8", blonde, blue/green eyes…”)
• [26:21] — Enter the Great Tallow Skincare Plot
• [36:38] — Ronnie’s visceral disgust at visual tallow-rendering; Ben bemoans the entire T-shaped kitchen island.
• [47:10] — Couple’s game reveals bedroom issues; “I only last two minutes” overshares.
• [74:27] — “Boudoir” photo shoot for Masha; Ally attempts Gen Z lingo.
• [80:21] — Steve wants Ally to get 20% of Tallow; major equity debate.
• [88:07] — Casey and Cole vent about the Tallow business “takeover”; hosts declare the family’s cyclical sabotage.
• [92:05] — Closing: Ally asks for more “spark” in her marriage; hosts roast the family’s efforts at self-improvement.

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Language & Tone

The hosts remain true to their signature style: irreverent, affectionate, and mercilessly witty. Their banter is self-referential, packed with pop culture asides, and always ready to poke fun at Bravo’s most earnest endeavors, especially when farmhands invent skincare products or choreograph their wives’ lives minute by minute.

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Episode Summary

This episode is a masterclass in Bravo snark, as Ben and Ronnie dissect the McBee family’s tragically comic attempts at romance, business, and self-improvement—all while fighting over farm-related cash cows (literally). Topics like tallow skin cream, jail-bound patriarchs, emasculated husbands, and “perfect wife” bullet points get the Watch What Crappens treatment, making for a recap packed with cackles, facepalms, and genuine horror at the modern American family. If you missed the show, you’ll know exactly where to roll your eyes—and which jar of beef fat to avoid.

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Listen if you love:
Searing Bravo takedowns, marital trainwrecks, messy business pitches, and two hosts gleefully losing their minds over a T-shaped kitchen island and tallow skincare.
Skip if you’re: Allegedly part of the McBee family’s legal representation.

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Next up: The Valley, Next Gen, Orange County—keep those feeds refreshed!

Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappin. A podcast about all the crap on Bravo that we just love, truly, truly love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one, the only, the lovely, the warm, the sweet Ronnie Caram. Hi Ronnie.

[Ronnie Caram]

How's it going, little sweet tart?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, thanks. You say it's storming over there in Texas?

[Ronnie Caram]

It is storming like crazy. Yeah, it's pounding down out here as flash flood warnings and I had to go run errands in that rain and actually, you know, it wasn't so bad.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah,

[Ronnie Caram]

I didn't mind getting wet. It felt kind of.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was a twist.

[Ronnie Caram]

I know. I was outside, it was pouring on my head, I couldn't find parking. I was like, why are people still out? Because Man, Texas, little storm and people still live their lives. You know, I had to go out there and I was like, why do people do this? But then I smelled it and I felt it, and I just felt so alive. I'm not out of the house much. I was like, yes, I'm wet, everybody. Where's my award? I came out in the rain.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're like, yes, it wasn't so bad out there. Although I was surprised they. They demolished that Starbucks. Like, it wasn't demolished. It was swept away in the rain. But it was pretty cool out here.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. It is one of those things where you worry about because that is a. That is a real worry. I mean, I'm not. I'm not really worried about it because I don't worry about anything until it happens. That kind of guy. But it could happen.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what I worry about? I worry about people not going to our Patreon. Patreon.com watchfulcrappins where you can get access to bonus episodes. This week we talked about Big Brother and Love island and other TV shows and what we did on our break. You can also get access to ad Free Listening, a newsletter. That's wonderful. A Discord community. That's wonderful. You just get so much. You get so much on Patreon. But I also worry that that tallow may not be enough to save the McBee family farm. And that is the concern for today's episode. Previously on the McBees. Cole and Casey and the Not Sunshine band got married, got engaged. And Ally and the other guy who. What's his face? McBee, Jesse. They. It turns out their relationship's in the.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

And

[Ben Mandelker]

that's. That's. You know, that man is a privilege over there.

[Ronnie Caram]

That man is a real too. We talked about this episode a bit on Crappy Hour this week, and I'm. I'm gonna have to repeat this part for people who don't listen to that. Last week, Jesse and Ali go to dinner because they're trying to, like, rekindle or whatever. And, you know, he picks this restaurant. They go to some fancy restaurant, and she's like, whoa. I mean, are we gonna share? Because is pretty expensive. And he goes, you've been working a lot with his mean glint in his eye and his little smile that never goes away. And then the waiter comes over and he orders the filet experience. I lost my. At the tv. I really like Jesse. I really liked him. I. And now to see him with that mean glint and that stupid smile still on his face, I'm like, oh, how did I fall for that? Like, just one little glint of the eye and then, like, wanting to go order the most expensive thing and then make your wife pay for what a. What an asshole. I can't believe that's what pushed me over. I was just so surprised to see it from Jesse. Were you? Or is it just me?

[Ben Mandelker]

You watch the show, right? You've seen these guys and their father. Like, I mean, I'm just like, okay, I can't believe this hot. This hot cowboy guy who's now starting to lose his looks a little bit, is now not being so nice when everyone else in his family's an like. I'm like, okay, you got married in an octagon. Congratulations.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, but, I mean, I just didn't think it was. It's evil. I thought he was, like, the nice one and the cute, sweet one, and he's like, an ass. I got so pissed.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sorry.

[Ronnie Caram]

And also, he's famous now, so, you know, that's not helping when you get all those dms and it's like, oh, why am I staying here? I have all these options, you know, off. This woman just had your kid.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am. I'm looking at the Filet Experience. Personally. I'm. That's where that. My mind is like, what is this filet experience? And I've been doing some googling while you've been talking, and there's a restaurant called Stockhill. I think that's where they went. And now let's see what the Filet Experience really is. Okay, let's go to the dinner menu. And I'm on their menu. Where's the fl. They've got the Wagyu Experience.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, that's even worse. That's what it was. The Wagyu Experience.

[Ben Mandelker]

You got the Wagyu experience?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's $170. And wait, maybe there was a flame experience. That's the only experience I'm seeing.

[Ronnie Caram]

What a pig. I think it was the Wagyu Experience.

[Ben Mandelker]

I didn't wear okay style. Yeah. I hate to tell you this, but I think it was the Wagyu Experience. It's part of the menu that says the world of wagyu. There's the American wagyu, the Australian, and the Japanese.

[Ronnie Caram]

It wasn't even the kind of meat it was that she just said, I. I'm worried about money. And then he's like, you're making plenty of money. And then orders the most. You know, anything called experience is going to be the most expensive thing on the menu. You know, the experience, which means they're going to be giving you expensive shit and, you know, I don't know, like lighting candles of flares or whatever and being like, whoa, it's the experience.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want to know. It's. But you know what, Ronnie? The Wagyu Experience is designed for two people.

[Ronnie Caram]

She didn't order that though. So you see what I mean? He's. Or he's getting whatever. She just said she wanted to save money. And you order the most expensive thing on the menu. Is it the most expensive thing on the menu? It sounds like it. You tell me you've got it open still.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was definitely. I, I closed it. I can, I can access it again. I can, I can reopen the tab. I, I'm gonna look right now because now this is inherently more interesting. Okay, so this is the Wagyu experience is 170. No, you could also spend $170 on the Creekstone Tomahawk and two sides.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, so by the way, ties the.

[Ben Mandelker]

The Wagyu Experience. It comes served Tokyo style. It's slow, crisp, garlic Wagyu tallow. So I think we know why they ordered it now. Pushing the tallow agenda.

[Ronnie Caram]

Steve McBee demands 20% of the Wagyu experience for his fucking girlfriend of five minutes.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

This thing's turning into a monster.

[Ronnie Caram]

So one other thing I want to tell you that you'll probably like more than the show. Did you see Steve McBee Junior's or Steve Junior McBee. Whatever. Did you see his list of the perfect woman?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Did he?

[Ben Mandelker]

That was published.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, my gosh. Describe your dream girl's physical traits and details. Between 5, 6 and 5 8. Blonde haired and light eyes, blue or green, with a passion for working out. So her body is toned and athletic. Well, number one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you know, sure.

[Ronnie Caram]

Exactly. Exactly what he's gonna get every time. Short, blonde, blue or green eyes, passion for working out. I want her to be athletic and to come from an athletic family where hard work and physical fitness and strength is the standard. I want her to be a healthy eater where we focus on fitness and a healthy lifestyle, but occasionally have a cheat me or a not out, but only to reward ourselves for an accomplishment that's too.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's. That's so specific that it's like I feel like he stopped answering the survey and started spiraling into like something else. He's like. And then when we watch TV together, when I ask for the remote, she

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

just getting the remote kindly doesn't throw it at me because when she throws at me it hurts. Hurts more than you. Like more than you think. Yeah, I'm a cowboy, but I also have sensitive skin because I take care of my skin. She better take care of her skin too. No other remote at me. Just because I want to wear something. So what? So what that I like Matlock. So what if I like Kathy Bates, okay? She's good. I believe her as an attorney. I'd have her represent this family if I could. But I can't. Okay? And I do understand the difference between reality reality and a TV fictional character. But what if I want a fictional character represent me? What's wrong with that? Why are you yelling at me? It's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know what? Matlock would be better if Kathy Bates were hotter and if she were between 56 and 58 and blonder with. With green hair or blue eyes and worked out. I mean Kathy mates work out more. So then this is. This is long. I won't go through the whole thing. But he's cuckoo bird. Um, so what do you want her personality to be like? I want her to want to be the leader of women and focus on improving the lives of those she's around in my eyes. A woman that isn't afraid to take charge and be a leader. That's such a character trait I love. I want a girl that comes off as elegant and classy and people respect for her intellect and the way that she carries herself in conversation as or more than how she looks while being out at events. Bullet point traits. So then he has a. He has bullet points. Hard working, intelligent, positive, competent, willing to learn, leader, confident, fun and wild on occasion. Kathy Bates, but hotter. Then he has my daily schedule. What'd you say?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sure he'll find her. It sounds all very reasonable and accessible.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes, perfection. My daily schedule would look like 4am to 6am Wake up read and journal. Morning routine.

[Ben Mandelker]

Journal.

[Ronnie Caram]

Ste.

[Ben Mandelker]

McBee's journaling.

[Ronnie Caram]

Come on.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Last night Matlock was a good episode. I liked it a lot. And it made me realize that she would be real good representing farms. H.

[Ronnie Caram]

State Farm. Heck no. City Farm. It begins on a city level. Must be hot. Is there a city called hot?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Is Mary Louhaner single? Because she doesn't forget anything. I need a woman doesn't forget things.

[Ronnie Caram]

I want Mary Lou Henner, but younger and blonder and hotter and bluer eyes. And I want. So this is good. Wakes up at 4. He wants to wake up between 4 and 6am Wake up, read and journal. Then 6am Wife wakes up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, okay. Oh, okay, me.

[Ronnie Caram]

Two hours without hot person at my side while a journal.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Okay. Hey, hey, hot. Five, six, blonde lady. Tommy Lambertop. I'm done journaling. Wake up.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wife wakes up. We have a car. We have a coffee. And dig into our most important deep work of the day. 8:00am Kids wake up. We ate breakfast, and wife takes them to school. Your kids aren't getting up at 8am what kind of precious life is that? What time does school start? And knowing how you guys talk, I mean, you don't even go to school. Jesse still says things like, wow, this is the best thing to ever happen in our lives.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, please, please don't act like you're not gonna be homeschooling your child with Todd the pig.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, and essential oils, you know, going on every time they're sick.

[Ben Mandelker]

Todd the pig, please. That's the classroom right there. It's gonna be Blair, Todd the pig, and this fantasy child.

[Ronnie Caram]

Write something down. I told you to write it down. But, dad, this is a hoe. Journaling. Okay, 8:00am Go ahead.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

No, I'm just saying. I'm journaling. I'm journaling about journaling. Did you know? Okay. Dear diary, Journal, here's what I've learned today on the year of our Lord 2026, July 15th. Today is the birthday of Linda Ronstadt. Happy birthday. I don't know who you are, but you're not Matlocks. I don't care.

[Ronnie Caram]

I was gonna say, I don't think it's. Something is a big.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

The wrong set.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, so my. And then my wife takes him to school in parentheses, private school of our choosing, while I continue.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, oh, oh, Private school of your choosing Was. Does the wag you experience all over again?

[Ronnie Caram]

Who chooses their own private school while I continue deep work and. Or take calls? I love his deep work. We've see. We see week after week doing nothing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait, can we. Can we go back to private school of our choosing here?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I want to send my child. I don't want to be like one of those people who sends their child to a private school not of their choosing.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, sir, we're putting. Your child goes on the bus, and we unfortunately can't tell you which school they're going to go to, so good luck.

[Ronnie Caram]

And how many are there? You live in a town of, like, 30 people. Like, how many private schools are there to choose from? You know, I mean, I don't know. Maybe there. Maybe there are a lot, but I don't know, what's the name of their town? I forgot Stupidville. I forget blonde short town, blonde short city, who's hot and works out a lot.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Dear Diary, today I found out something interesting about the day. July 15th. Not only is it this person Linda Ronsat's birthday, but it's also the same birthday as Jesse Ventura.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wow.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I bet they'd have a great date together. Okay, see you next time diary.

[Ronnie Caram]

9am noon. 9am to noon. Wife and I work together on our companies, focusing on growing our memberships, filming videos, planet events, etc.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, great.

[Ronnie Caram]

Memberships.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Just.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just working on their memberships.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Dear diary, you know what else I found out today about today? July 15th. It's also the birthday of Ariana Huffington and Br? Ne. Wow. I sure would love to have a threesome with all them if they were just blonder.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Wonder. Noon to 1pm Lunch with my wife and do a quick walk somewhere. 1 to 3pm gym and train with my wife who loves to work using strength training. Oh my God. This is every second of the day you got planned out for your fucking wife. And it's like, take care of my kids, make some money, Be hot. Be hot or work out some more. What is wrong with this person?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's. It's not realistic. It's also.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

It's like my ideal woman from 3:37 to 3:40. That is when she is in the bathroom doing number one only. But then of course she has to take care of herself.

[Ronnie Caram]

And then afterwards have a wife who makes number two. That is unladylike and I will not have it. And if she does have poop, it better be hot poop. I'll tell you that right now. 3 to 6.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Furthermore. Furthermore, from 3 to 6pm One thing we will not be doing is celebrating the July 15 birthday of Yahya Abdul Mateen too. Because he's way hotter than I am and that's not allowed.

[Ronnie Caram]

3:00pm to 6:30pm finish any additional work for the day. Prepare for the kids to come home. You better prepare earlier. I think they get out, they're only going to be in school for 15 minutes. I think we're learning from this list. 6:30pm to 8pm dinner and play with the kids, see them off to bed.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is his perfect day. Or is it like a standard day? I forget.

[Ronnie Caram]

This is like his.

[Ben Mandelker]

I.

[Ronnie Caram]

They asked his ideal woman and so he's like listing all the things. My daily schedule. I guess so it's yes, is ideal. Ideal daily schedule. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So is farm work on here or.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, no, we're just. He mentions working very deeply, you know, he wants to work deeply, but it just says memberships. So, I mean, I don't know. Memberships. He's gonna actually, he's like working at

[Ben Mandelker]

like LA Fitness or something.

[Ronnie Caram]

I read that he was going to start like a man. A men's retreat somewhere, which is a huge shocker that someone like him would do that. But yeah, he's going to have like a McBee McBee Ranch Men's Retreat.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

That's right. Where we're going to work on memberships and not farming and thinking about what we're going to be doing for about three or four minutes in every single day.

[Ronnie Caram]

Memberships is spelled with an N right before the M in memberships. Because I'll tell you who's not allowed there.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Girls. Stinky.

[Ronnie Caram]

Stinky girls.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Sounds like he's got it all figured out.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, there's more. It's only 8pm the kids have just gone to bed. Now it's 8pm to 9pm nightly journaling. You do not journal in the morning and at the night, sir. No, stop. Just stop. Farthest way. Nightly journaling. Preparing the plan of the day for tomorrow and meeting with my wife to go over our reading materials. What do you mean meeting with your wife? Has your wife had one second away from you? She's been with you since you let her wake up two hours after you did this morning.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did. They're going to go over their reading materials. Wait, did he have. I don't. This is this. I feel like if someone said what would be a great, like a good day with my wife, like with the perfect woman and be like, I go to work, she goes to work, she does whatever she's going to be doing. I do my thing, we work out together, we have a great dinner, we watch TV and go to sleep. This is so rigorous. And so on.

[Ronnie Caram]

Loving person who will help me make a great home. The end. Like, she has to be hot, she has to do this, she has to do that. She has such a controlling asshole. And then at 9pm Go to bed. That's it. Are you going to bed or are you just making her go to bed? And then you'll go to bed an hour after. That's the only thing that surprised me in this.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yosh. It's terrible. Did you know that 20 years ago today, Twitter launched. By the way, as long as I'm looking at what happened on Today Today.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, they've been.

[Ben Mandelker]

They've been doing July for us.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, really into that list. Sorry, that was long. But I've been sitting for like two weeks. Who's.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's. That is honestly like crazy. That is crazy. This is also someone who, I think. I don't. I. I don't know. Something is off. Something's not right here. Something's like with Stephen McBee.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. He's a controlling psycho, which we know. And we've seen, you know, the texts and stuff that he was sending to Ali when he, I don't know, with somebody at the festival. And he's calling her a. And a. And this, I mean, just these guys. Like that's the thing. Like, I saw that coming from him, you know. I did not see this coming from Jesse.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I really thought he was cute. Wait, this was Jesse?

[Ronnie Caram]

No, that was Stephen. Oh. I'm just saying, like I saw that personality in him. But I'm just upset by the last episode because now we see that Jesse's just another. Another cut from this cloth.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, Stephen, I feel like the next step is gonna be. Stephen's gonna have a tracker on a car and then after that he'll wind up on the traders and other steps that may happen in between those two. We'll see what happens. But in the meantime, let's get back to this show.

[Ronnie Caram]

Okay, well, here's my prediction for everyone in this family. They're going to kill a lot of ozone. That's it. Just going to get very big cars and trucks and just do as much damage to the ozone. That's my only solid prediction. Possibly jail for a couple of them. Okay, let's get on with it. It's season three, episode five, Business Beef.

[Ben Mandelker]

Business Beef. Okay, so the episode where we learn more about Tallow. So we start, we're at Cole and Casey's home and Steven is bringing a pig, a pig named Todd. Todd. Todd's on Bravo, you know, and this pig comes, comes into this house and Steven tells us Casey has talked forever

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

about how she want to get a pot bellied pig. And so I thought what better way to surprise her as an engagement present? Because I want to name the pig from Charles Web. I want to name it. What's it called?

[Ben Mandelker]

What you, what do you want to name it? What's Wilbur? Wilbur?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow, real original there, Steven McBee.

[Ronnie Caram]

Also, I don't think it ended well. I mean, I love Charlotte's Web, but nothing, nothing starring a pig really ends that well. Like never does, you know? So, yeah, he wants to get her a pig for her wedding engagement. She just got engaged to one. What do you buy? What are you buying? She's. She's agreed to come into a family of them. So I think she's good on Todd. And she. The pig comes in and they just let the pig into the house. It starts, by the way, I love a pig. You know, we love a pig. They let the pig come into the house. It's snorting all over the place. They're what the is this pig? And she. And she sees the pig and she's like, get this pig the out of my house. She didn't want to pig.

[Ben Mandelker]

The pig actually takes a dump under the dining room table. And it's the first time in the history of, I think mankind that like pig actually improved the house. So good for them.

[Ronnie Caram]

Made the florist keter.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then I don't see house that. First of all, they have that giant kitchen island, that T shaped kitchen island in their kitchen, but it's too big for the kitchen. Have you noticed, like how there's no space on the edges of the tea for them to get around? They're always like just slinking around the sides their. Their kitchen island. I was like, you got all this space and you still put an island that's not the right size.

[Ronnie Caram]

I think it's people who don't hire architects. They just do everything. Sales, you know, which, you know, I apprec. Some do do your own ism. But sometimes you need to hire people who might be smarter than you or understand. I mean it looks like a Sam's Club to me. Like the floors and stuff. I mean it's big and I think it's. It's kind of pretty in its way. But yeah, like you need to fit your island in there.

[Ben Mandelker]

The island does not fit. It's also strange, a T shaped island. It's all wrong. And some like the. The if you. The T shape is so narrow. A disaster. Like really rooting for a tornado.

[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So now we go to Steve. Steve Jr. And Ally are in the kitchen and, and Steve is, you know, he's showing them the, the, the, the pig. I think you were trying to move on to someone to another scene.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, we're going, we're going to, we don't need any more of that scene. So now we're going to Steve Jr's house and they're hanging out with the, with the dog and stuff. And it's Ally, Ally and Masha are gonna have a scene because they are going to really force Masha on everybody. Why? Yeah, I don't know. Masha is, you know, she's a personality of a potato. And I love a potato, but I don't want to like, watch it on tv. You know, she's just like, duh. But I am here for Steve. I would like to eventually marry Steve. Steve loves me. Masha. Jesus Christ. To perk up, somebody light something under Masha.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, seriously. So Ali's saying that she hasn't seen Masha since the Halloween party. And she goes, which was obviously a very unique scenario. And we see three weeks ago, Galina being like, it's my party. You're not invited. You're so stupid.

[Ronnie Caram]

Masha is like, I just feel separated from family. But Ali is nice. And Ali is very TV ready. Like she's been ready to come on tv. Hi, Masha. I haven't seen Masha in ages. Masha, how are you feeling right now? And she's kind of, like, looking off every. Have you noticed that whenever she's talking to someone, she's just kind of nodding but zoning out? Like, not listening to Ali is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's just like, but they put her in every scene, and she's ready to go for every single thing they give her. But she's like, masha, I think we should talk about your relationship in this family. Marsha's like, well, I'm separated from family. It would be nice to get closer because, like, Steve is going to go to jail. I want to make sexy calendar for Steve. It's like, oh, my God. I'm going to shoot a sexy calendar for Masha.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's gonna be great. Masha is like, I'm from Belarus. I don't know what that is. It's a country. I don't understand. There's only America.

[Ronnie Caram]

There are no other countries. Haven't you noticed that every house in the neighborhood has an American flag? Because the world is America.

[Ben Mandelker]

World is America. So Masha is basically saying, yeah. She's like, no one wants to be friends with her, so she wants to do something special. You know, she wants to do something special for Steve Senior. And so Ali's like, please to find something special. Flowers, like an oatmeal, cream pie. What do you want? She's like, no, you can't send food to jail. You can't send nothing. Only letters. Okay, so is it gonna be a

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

B, a G, an S, a T?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, not actual letters.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like, good, because I ran out of letters.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

The only letters I know are U s and A.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's like, no, but you can send photos to prison and also letters and photos as well, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Photos.

[Ronnie Caram]

You want to do some sexy photos? Let's do a calendar. She's like, yes. For each month. Month.

[Ben Mandelker]

Imagine, like, a photo for two of the months, and the rest is just, you know, empty space.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So here's the way it goes. Each month, there's a photo.

[Ronnie Caram]

Masha, you know that in prison, everybody is going to be jerking off at you, and he's not going to be the only person that sees a calendar on the wall. He's going to have roommates, guards. Don't do this in a prison. You know what I mean? Don't be circulating nudie pictures of yourself in a prison full of men.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Ellie is like. She's like, oh, my God. A boudoir photo shoot. For my potential future father in law, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's xnay on the. It's a little earlier. Putting the cart. You're putting the combine before the horse here. Okay, ma', am, let's just. Let's just relax on that front. As far as I can tell, you are not at your strength training right now. So until you start getting with the schedule, there will be no father in

[Ronnie Caram]

law till you start waking up two hours later than me and being a good mother to children and then doing exactly what I say for every second of the day. We are not. But, you know, he's been the one who's like, we're. You're moving in, right? We're going to get married. Right. Like, you're here, Right? So I was kind of surprised that it was her this time, being like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, she's eager. So now we go to the mcbee meat processing family facility, which is sort of what I feel like this show is about. Just processing the stupid things that these meatheads are saying. And Galena gets shows up, and Tessa's there. Tess has been sent up to the meat processing facility. She no longer is with a dribble door. And she's like, are you lost, little girl?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I got you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God. I thought you were in the wrong

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

neck of the woods. Thanks for visiting me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Little old test up here in the mic processing facility.

[Ronnie Caram]

Wow, what a natural scene. Just me hanging out up here at this gosh darn meat packing facility. And who wong single? Galena, that sweet little girl from down yonder. Sometimes I think she's faking it, this lady, you know? And Tessa, I think is. Tessa and Galena are my favorites on the show, But I think my memaw Ramona, she never had an accent until she got older. And then suddenly she was like, well, let me tell you, down in tarnation, it's like. And my mom was always like, my mom has never had an accent. What the hell? Where did she suddenly get an act? She started weari little crochet, you know, sweaters that would say, like, God bless home, and started walking around with an accent. And my. I think my grandpa always had one. And she really kept it up her whole life and the rest of her life. But sometimes I think that Tessa is like that. Like, she's just decided now I'm this country. Her real voice is like, you know,

[Ben Mandelker]

oh, my God, I can't believe I got to go to the forum today. This is absolutely ridiculous. Okay, I guess I'll do it. They've moved me from the. Moving from the dribble door to the meat processing is. Oh, wait, hold on. Someone's coming in.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Oh, my God. I can't believe I'm in the meat processing.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Or like, the cameras go down and she's like, get me a cup of coffee.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Come on.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know, like the baby from Roger Rabbit.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So they. She's up there and probably spending her time making Little Print Shop 8 by 10 posters with, like, old western font like she did last season. And remember, it was like the baby shower thing. It was like. It was like baby on board, but, like, the Y was like, five spaces away from, like, the rest of Bab or something. I don't know. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

Or they're like, tessa, make some flyers for the. The meat company, you know, and then she's making, like, a little cartoon cow that's got a big smile on his face like it just can't wait to be slaughtered.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's just like Iggy or Izzy, whatever that cartoon. I feel like. I feel like Tess is one of those people who. She's all sweet and nice, but when she texts and emails, she only writes in all caps. And you're like, why, yes, Doing this. All you have to do is press caps lock and fix it.

[Ronnie Caram]

And lots of exclamation points and emojis.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So she's stuck up there, and so they're making them do a scene, and so they hug. And Tessa is like, real.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

We've been selling off some things and restructuring, and that's what you got to do with the business. Especially the boss. He called me and he said, I'm journaling. And then afterwards, he said, okay, I'm

[Ben Mandelker]

done, and I need you to come here.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I want you to whip everything into shape up here at McPhee. Make company. And I want you to be the office manager and work on membership.

[Ben Mandelker]

Membership, membership, membership, journaling, you know, all those things.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I love those boards.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Ronnie Caram]

I miss being the fuel gal. I really do miss filling up 17, 21 implements a day, but, you know, I take it all in stride. That's just what you do your tasks. There ain't nothing I wouldn't do for boss man and them boys.

[Ben Mandelker]

God, I. I love that for her. She's just like, all I want to do all day is just put fuel into tanks. She's like, that's all I want. I just want to put a nozzle. Miss filling tanks up with gas in there. That's all I want. But it's okay, I'll be up here in this meat facility.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Galena's like, whoa. Ha, ha. Holy smokes. You doing so great. Whoa. What a fun, loving scene we are having together. Just couple of girls.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then the real life of the party shows up. It's Casey, America's sweetheart. I'm here. The tallow skin line is something Steve and I thought of a couple of months ago, and tallow was an amazing product for your skin. The fun part about tallow is if you take off the tea, it's a verb that Stephen McBee doesn't allow. Women do. Hey, I just said it. So anyway, there's so much kidney fat here that if you render it, it becomes tallow. So tallow.

[Ronnie Caram]

I guess I knew what tallow was, and I've used. You know, I've used it. I saw it on the Internet, and I was like, tallow. Because it's like a big craze lately. So I started using tallow. And I am a pescatarian, so, you know, part I was like, well, I'm not supposed to be using that. That's not great. You know, not like I'm on some high moral ground or whatever. But I was like, you know, like, cows are cute. Maybe I shouldn't use that. But whatever, it's there. It's. It's things that have already been killed anyway. Well, so is meat, you dumbass. You know what I mean? So I was using it, and then. Really, I'm just so grossed out when I saw this episode. Who would watch this and want to put that on there? They just. There's, like, body parts everywhere. And she's like, yeah. And then I put my own smells into it, and I was like, this is officially nasty to me now. I don't know why it took a visual, but it did.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you're watching this show voluntarily, tallow is the least of your concerns. That's what I've gotta say. Like, if you're watching this and it's like, my question is not like, are you watching this? And then you're still okay with a towel. My question is, are you watching this and you're entertained by it? Yeah, there's some issues.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, I do good entertainment, but.

[Ben Mandelker]

So sorry. On your yum.

[Ronnie Caram]

I mean, I should call it a yum. I only watched it because we, you know, it was coming on Bravo after being on Peacock, and I just literally had nothing to do one day. And so I put it on and was cracking up because we're recapping it, you know, But I did. It's so trashy. You know, I do get into it, but Casey's like, well, you know, like, a few times. What I do is I render. I render the kidney for a few times, and then I add my ingredients in and I whip it, and then I come up with all the formulas myself. I don't want to put on my face that some rando came up with himself in the back of a meat processing plant that they married in. You know what I mean? Like, I need you to get a recipe off the Internet at least. Just making up that I'm gonna put all over my face.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't want my skin care to be developed on your T shaped island. So Tessa's like, sir, are you clean?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Are you clean? So, okay, let's get in there. Let's go. Let's get Casey.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's get Casey a towel, okay? Because she's about to. She's about to get in this.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Listen, you can't do. You can't do Tyler without a towel, okay? So we just get into it, okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like, tessa, why are you. You putting gasoline in the middle of that jar of tallow?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I just can't help it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, happens to hard boss man.

[Ben Mandelker]

I need to fill this fuel into something now.

[Ronnie Caram]

Show me that ring, girl. Oh, wow. That is beautiful. I just can't believe Cole's gonna get married. This is adorable. So, Coon, show us how you do this tallow, sister. And so Galena's like, well, congratulations on the engagements. I didn't know, but I wish I could have been there. Unfortunately, I did not know about this case. He's like, yeah. And Tessa says, well, of course. I mean, I got something to admit to you. I knew about it. I knew about it, Gleaner. I knew about it, but, you know, I couldn't do nothing about it.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I knew about it because Corbin told me.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Corbin from Lola Love island shows up. Hey, Desa, maybe baby shower. You want to come to a baby shower? Dead ass. Dead ass. So then Casey is like, well, you know, he was telling me that he was going to ask you, and he was not the most romantic thing he said. He goes, I think it's time that Casey has me and Blair's last name. And I was like, oh. And I'm like, I didn't want. I. I didn't know he was so romantic and such because everybody was there. And as he reached his spoon into that Chef Boyardee can and said, you're gonna be my woman now, I was like, wow, you are romantic.

[Ronnie Caram]

Cold Uncle Jimmy was there. Darla, the whole family. Glenn's like, oh, wow. Way to rub it in. Thanks.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

You mean Darla, that big old slut? Wow, that really was romantic. Sick.

[Ronnie Caram]

So let's see. Yeah. Galina's bum, she didn't get to come. And they're like. No one says sorry. They're just like, okay. Nobody knew. Well, Tessa did, but unfortunately Tessa invited a gas tank. She didn't remind. No one thought to invite you, Galina. Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, yeah. Now we go to Jesse and Ali's city house. And Al, he comes in and Ally's like, you're gonna take that out, right? You're gonna take it out. Take it out because it's trash. And he's like, yeah. She's like. And he's like, yeah. They just keep getting smellier. Her diapers, like that's what diapers do, you know, they, they. If you, if you in them and they sit outside in the garbage, you don't take out the garbage. They just get stinkier because there's feces in them.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, that's. That's how that works. Usually 65 miles from McBee Farms. That is too much. I mean, I've known this for a long time, but it's still every time I see the number 65 miles from McBee Farm. What are you two doing? So now Casey and Cole come in. Guess why, Guys, it's taco night. Yay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Taco night. So they're making some tacos because it's also gonna be game night, guys. And Stephen tells us.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I'm not really sure how to describe Jesse. Natalie's communications out other than non existent. It's like they don't even wake up two hours early to journal. Like those two individually may be the worst communicators I ever seen in my life. I've never seen someone more pessimistic about communication than those two.

[Ronnie Caram]

Here's the problem. Problem. He went with someone who wasn't between 556 and 58 with blonde hair and blink green or blue eyes. That works out constantly every second of the day before she puts kids to bed. After two hours of private schooling that

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

we chose, I bet they don't even spend their afternoons try to work on memberships.

[Ronnie Caram]

So he tells us how communication is a big miss in the family and he's the start of changing it to the better. Yeah, we've seen your communication. It's all over social media.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sir.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

You.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Ronnie Caram]

I should have known. Great. You're doing great. You're doing great, sweetie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, seriously. So they. He brought a car. He brought a game. It's a game for couples. I thought, well, since they're all couples, let's all play it. You know, what could go wrong? So it's like. It's one of these, like, fun, provocative couples things. And before anything, even just before the game even starts, Cole McBee is like,

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I'll just say it right now. I only last, like, two minutes. That's the best that I can do.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, thank you. Thank you for that volunteering that information for us. America was wondering. And now you've all put us out of our anxiety.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Ellie's like, well, Steven definitely has you beat on that one. It's like, wait, I just heard that. That I like that. Nobody in this family can last more than 30 seconds. It's so funny. And it's funny that they keep bringing, like. Why do you guys keep bringing it up?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's so funny to me. Yeah, I. I also can only last, like, two minutes. Are we talking about watching this show? We're talking about sex.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Steven's like, there's friendship, there's intimacy. But even the intimacy one is like, wow. What's your favorite thing about me?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Physically?

[Ronnie Caram]

So the question is, what's your favorite sexual position? Casey and Cole. Cole likes it from the back. For sure. For sure. What's your wildest sexual fantasy? Cole? And he's like, I just get a big buck. And then, you know, right after, like, Hammer Dan, you know,

[Ben Mandelker]

they show this image of Cole just, like, with a giant buck. I'm sure, like, every deer's dream is to get murdered by a guy who's then just gonna have sex quick. That's my sexual fantasy.

[Ronnie Caram]

Going out and slaughtering an animal and then banging someone right after. He didn't. He didn't put. Shower or wash my hands or anything. It's like, yeah, get that. Get some death all over me. And then go bang somebody from behind.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cut to seven years from now. Blair. Daddy, how was I made? Well, I saw this deer once. So then Ali is like, meanwhile, more questions. What was your first sexual experience? And so I think it's supposed to be like, what was your first sex sexual experience like as a child or, like, as a teenager? I should say? Not a child. Is like, so. But Ali's like, no, I'm gonna use this as a chance to tell everyone about the first time I had sex with Steven. So she goes, oh, this is a pretty good one. If it's the. Are you thinking about the same one, Stephen. Okay, we were in your farmhouse making out, and I didn't want to have sex with you, but, like, I took you to the shower and gave you the sloppiest blowjob ever, and it lasts, like, two seconds. Oh, my God, everyone. And everyone's like, oh, great.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Casey's like, oh, my God, I'm not. Everyone's acting so prudish about it. Cole just told you he wants to slaughter things and bang somebody from behind. Like, shower, blow jobs. Really? Nothing? And also, can we just stop this

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Stop the visuals.

[Ronnie Caram]

Don't stop it. So she's like, well, I probably could have stopped, but at the end of the day, you read nothing for you. Get tallow for tallow. I hear about their dad and everything he's done with women. So I thought this family was, you know, open about these things. I'm just, like, trying to meet them where they're at.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Ellie is like. She's like, are you happy with the level of intimacy in our relationship? Oh, this is. Sorry. This is Ally with Jesse's alley. So they are so awkward, intense, because they keep smiling through their pain. So Ellie's like, yeah. Are you happy with the level of intimacy in our relationship? I mean, I know your answer already. He's like, what's my answer? She goes, we both have initiation problems, and, like, that's where we lack. He's like, yeah, but, like, how do you solve it if both people are and aren't having. Not having initiation? That's my question. I'm like, I. This is. You're too boring to be this awkward. Please stop.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Please.

[Ronnie Caram]

You guys are so boring. The least you could do is. You know what I mean? Like, you got. Somebody has to bring something to this relationship, because I see.

[Ben Mandelker]

I beg of you, you know?

[Ronnie Caram]

So then Jesse tells us, yeah, since becoming a parent, like, we just, like. We just, like, don't really have intimacy anymore. And Casey's like, you guys should try 10 days intimacy. Just hope there's enough wildlife outside to shoot.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, that's a lot of bucks. A lot of bucks.

[Ronnie Caram]

A lot of bucks.

[Ben Mandelker]

You just make sure that you have sex 10 days in a row. This is what, like, Blair was like. When Blair was, like, really young, we did this. I'm like, you know, she's still really young. I had to break it to you, you know, and she was just so.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Such a.

[Ben Mandelker]

Before she became the adult that she is now, we used to have sex all the time.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. Yeah. It's some player Put some player just born right before the season.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. That's what they're like. We used to this thing back when, you know, back when Blair was really young, when she was little, before she. Before she sent up to the meat processing facility to help Tessa, we used to have 10 days of intimacy.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's like, yeah, intimacy is a huge part of our relationship. When Cola and I are getting along, that always helps. Do you know what else helps? Having babies helps. It always helps a relationship.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Ali says, hey. Oh, I guess so. I guess Ali with Stephen is with an E. And Ally with Jesse has no E. She lost the E because they lost their spark. So Ally is like, hey, was there ever. Tom, you considered ending our relationship? And Steven's like, now.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Although there was that time that you woke up five minutes early before I was done journaling. And I thought, this is not gonna work out. But you know what? I stuck through it, through the hard times and all. I just kept on journaling for five more minutes.

[Ronnie Caram]

I just kept on journaling and just kept on looking at hair dye in the store and said, what if I don't find the perfect one? I'm gonna bleach her hair. I'm gonna bleach her hair. Get some contacts in there. Maybe cut off her feet so she's shorter. Five, six to five. Okay, Stephen, you're spinning out.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Come back.

[Ronnie Caram]

Come back, Stephen.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Jesse is like. His question is, how can I be a better partner? Well, I guess we'll both answer, because apparently the Wagyu experience wasn't enough. And Ally's like, well, he's definitely wanting to keep stuff in, so you need to communicate how you're feeling. And then, like, how like. Like, like what you like and like what you don't like and what I can do better and, like, those kind of things. Are you mad at me? Are you mad at me? He's like, that's fair. Okay. Oh, God.

[Ronnie Caram]

And she's like, yeah. So I would say communication. And he's like, well, I should have went first because that was going to be my answer.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's not pyramid. You guys can both have the same answer.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Ronnie Caram]

So Jesse's like, well. Well, if I had to answer, I guess I would say the thing we need most is an open line of communication.

[Ben Mandelker]

Memberships.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I wish we had more memberships. That's why we got to work on them in the afternoons.

[Ronnie Caram]

And so Ali's like, okay, well, then what are you hesitant to tell me? Because I could probably answer that. Like, I've not told you that I've not been taking my birth control. So there's something. It made me feel bad, so I just stopped taking my birth control. Girls, I didn't know if I should tell you up front or not. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Which you should, right? Shouldn't you guys need to just talk? Like, these are discussions I would have.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, tell. Tell the audience first. Let us know if there's more McBees on the way so we can be mentally prepared, and then you can tell Jesse.

[Ronnie Caram]

I feel like I would have that conversation with, like, the mailman, you know, or like, like, anybody. Like, I. This shouldn't be something that's.

[Ben Mandelker]

That tell Blair. Start with guys. Blair, then Sitka, then Todd. So then Jesse's Blair, who's like 30

[Ronnie Caram]

years old now, you know, Go tell Blair.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everyone knows but Galina. Oh, so awkward happened again. So then Jesse is like, this is something that we should probably. Private, you know? And he's like, don't you feel like. Do you feel like I listen to you when you're speaking with me? Because, like, you're either on your phone because that happened last week or remember when you're on your phone last week.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, go ahead.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I just like the idea of, like, remember that time last week and you were on your phone? Like, Ally has, like, that, like, has, like, discreet moments of time when she's allowed to be on her phone.

[Ronnie Caram]

We have women in this family on Foundry. That's what we will not have. Like, yeah, we're a big believer of women telegraphing. So, yeah, he got mad because in the restaurant, in the fancy restaurant, she looked at her phone. He's like, wow, you can't even be in the restaurant with me when it's staring at your phone.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what I hate, by the way. I. This guy who spends all of his time up there with the farm overtime because they're like, it's nap time.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Why is he still at the farm?

[Ben Mandelker]

So he spends excessive amounts of time at the farm. And then he comes, comes. He blesses her with his, like, presence. And she gets on the phone once, and he's like, oh, you're not even gonna, like, be present with me? Yeah, no, you're the one who's not present. Because his whole thing is like, I have. I don't have enough time. So the time I do have is limited. And that's what you're gonna do is be on the phone. It's like, you're the one who is on the metaphorical phone right now, sir. So I don't want to hear from you with your wagyu experience.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. So he's saying, you know, like when I come home from work, it's just, hey, what's up? And then we go our separate ways. Like, like, she's not exactly excited to see me. Is anybody? You're not bringing a lot to this, buddy. Sorry to say. And she's like, well, but at least I'm being open. I don't think Jesse's does that. I'm being vulnerable.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, it's a real shame that that big personality walks through the doors and no one's even taking advantage of it. Like, no one's even saying, like, wow, can't wait to hear all the great stories that Jesse McBe says share with us. Please let me stop everything and hear what you have have to say. Yeah, commercials.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

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[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Caram]

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[Ronnie Caram]

So then Jesse and Coley. Coley. Jesse and Cole are taking a walk in the field and Stephen comes up and what are they talking about here? We don't need all these little stupid.

[Ben Mandelker]

Something really interesting. Yeah. He says they're talking about like they may have to move out. You know, it's sad guys, because they're going to have to like sell things, sell part of their business. And. And Cole's like, yeah, it's weird.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

It's weird to think that like what

[Ben Mandelker]

the year is going to look like or shoot what the future is going to look like. It's the same thing. I hate to tell you because like, obviously we still have some acres.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

So we have that. It's like, yeah, but like, I mean we'll still be farming small amount, you

[Ben Mandelker]

know, it's like, but it ain't going to be enough. He's like, yeah.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I mean for the amount of people

[Ben Mandelker]

that we got here, yeah, we employed 50 to 60 people up here and provided them jobs that are close to their homes. Oh well.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah. And Stephen's like, well, it's, it's gonna be, it's gonna be rough. And they're saying, yeah, it's gonna be hard to let people go. But you know what? As long as they can still get their car washed. Okay, we're gonna give them some coupons. We're gonna give them some coupons. So then this turns to Galina, and Stephen's like, well, I sure as hell don't trust Galina to figure this out. She didn't even come to work. So all she does on the weekends is go to Housewives party. You see her all over the Internet. Just look at your Instagram. There's Galena. Another housewives party on the weekends. Okay, it's the weekend. Yeah, she's. That means Monday through Friday. She's always there. You specify a few times here that she's only gone on the weekends. What the is wrong with that? You're never even here. You don't even know that shit's being bought and sold, Steve.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, seriously, she's trying to get people to watch this show. Okay, well, I mean, she's. No, she's taking a victory lap. She's on. She's famous now. Now she's. She's trying to. To milk this as much as she can. Yes. But she is also raising the profile of the show. I mean, if she's putting her face up on various Real Housewives Instagrams, people would be like, who's that? And they'll look and they'll say, oh, from that McBee show. I haven't watched that show because Ben can watch her crap and hates it so much. So I don't watch it. But, like, maybe I should watch it. And then they watch it, and then she becomes more popular and gets another season. So you know what? Like, she's bringing money to you guys.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, and it's funny, too, that he's like, well, she's all over Instagram. You're dating an influencer.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Are you.

[Ronnie Caram]

What are you so upset about? And how about that? So off. So Cole's like. I'm like, galena, do you not know my dad's leaving December 1st? Like, you think she'd just lock in a little bit right now?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Well, that's gonna be your dad, actually. Unfortunately for you.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

No pun intended.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Right?

[Ronnie Caram]

She really needs lock in. She needs to get a lock pick. Okay, you guys are fucked. And you and Jesse are probably too, because your stuff is built on his land. Like, they're coming after Jesse and Cole, too, which I find. Well, I read. Allegedly. I read this. That they're in danger as well because of stuff that Steve Jr. Transferred to their names and stuff. And I thought it was interesting that it's just those two and not Steve that are brought into this stuff.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we move forward to Australia. Bianchi, which is in town somewhere. Maybe in the city. It's in this.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

It's a city.

[Ben Mandelker]

City restaurant and big city. Casey and Ally meet up. And Casey's asking, where. Where's Jesse? What's he up to? And Ally is saying how he's supposed to be hunting with Jake, but then he was gonna come back home last night, but he was up at the farm yesterday and today. And instead. And Casey's like, has he been working at the farm? I think that's part of being at the farm. But that's okay, right?

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, basically, we find out that he hangs out with his brothers, you know, Well, I guess we find this out later. But he just goes to hang out with his brothers all day and they hunt all night. Just hang out with each other. I mean, I get that, but God, this. They should never. I mean, I get that as far as like. Like, that's your job or whatever, but you have like a wife and a child. You can't just be out hanging out with your bros. You're literal.

[Ben Mandelker]

They also. Wasn't she also going to move up to the. The country full time or to the farm full time? Not like her thing.

[Ronnie Caram]

Oh, well, that's what they last disagreed on. Oh, did they agreed that she would move to the farm?

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe not. This is probably like an ongoing issue with them. I mean, it was. God, they only got married last season. That the fact that their relationship is so shitty so soon. I mean, it usually takes two seasons for this. This.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, but they never solved it. He wanted to be at the farm and she wanted to be in the city. And she's like, but it's only, you know, a little bit away. It's 65 miles away, you know. And then they got married and had a baby without really solving that one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Al is like, I honestly don't think I would have been able to make it through the past couple of months postpartum without Christy or my mom, you know. And so she's saying how everything, like, stressful time, she just wanted normalcy. She didn't really have anyone to talk to. And she says, yeah, express it to him. But, you know, it's one of those things that he has to be actively listening and I'd be totally willing. And we Talked about the 10 days of intimacy and I'll be totally willing to do that, but I haven't heard a peep from him. And he's been staying at the farm. It's like, hello. Can't be intimate if you're at the farm.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's like my best friend. But I don't know. Things are lacking. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

They're just not into it. And, you know, they were kind of like this even when they were getting married, which is. I don't know. Yeah, it's sad. This is a depressing relationship for sure. And she's like, neither one of us will take the initiative or me. And Casey's like, well, I don't want you to go anywhere because I don't know how I'm going to survive the McBees without you. But I sure do love having you in the family. Do you know what does the. Tell me about the back of your elbows. Is your elbow skin good or does it need moisturizing? I formulated a new tallow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tallow. Tallow. Tallow. So now. Now we go to Jesse and Cole. They're riding farm equipment, and Jesse gets trapped in his combine. And it's. It's a sad day when Cole has to show you how to open a door. He's like, here's how you do it. And Jesse's like, oh, wow. He's like, you gotta pull it towards you. That's how you open a door. I didn't think about that. Brain trust is going to love the

[Ronnie Caram]

McBee Farm show where nobody has knows how to use these things that they're pretending to work on. It's like, wow, how do I open the door to the tractor? Like last year, when Cole's like, I can do this. And he immediately crashes. The first time he's trying to pretend

[Ben Mandelker]

on TV that he knows how to thing.

[Ronnie Caram]

Come on, you posers.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we go from there to. After Cole saves his brother from perishing inside the combine, we. Cole goes back to his house where Casey's sitting there and Ally's holding a baby. Actually, Ali's there. And Casey's like, hey, do you want. I'm actually. I'm sorry. Cole is not there. He's spiritually there, but he's not there. It's. Ally and Casey are there, and. But this is blonde alley, not sad alley. And so I guess they're both sad alleys, just a different type of sad alley. Point is, they're there with Blair.

[Ronnie Caram]

We're gonna make some tallow. And Ellie's like, oh, my gosh. So Casey brings over this big bag of kidney fat and she's like, it's all from the meat facility. I won't make you touch it. It's just got a very beefy smell. And that's why I do so many renders to get the smell out out. Stinky did me. Gosh, I'm probably selling them like hotcakes. People watching this show, Ally's like, hold

[Ben Mandelker]

on, I couldn't hear you from all the way the other end of this T shaped island. Let me come across over closer to you. Now hold on while I squeeze in between this leg of the T and the wall. And okay, now I'm standing next to you. Wow. So how's it being in business with it being connected to the McBees? I like it being on the McBee website. But I do wish I could add something on labeling or something that it's my product. Because of course these guys, these geniuses have made this beef tallow and it has like this very like manly label. And it's like Casey is trying to design something that's like feminine and nice and skin care and it's got this

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

look like McB Tallow.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, he's gonna wanna like, who are you trying to market this to? And are they going to be attracted to that, that mar that label?

[Ronnie Caram]

It's also just very plain. I think it's like just a very plain, nondescript kind of looking thing. I mean, I wouldn't really recognize that. But of course also the guys are just like, okay, Casey will do all the work and then, you know, we'll take all the money from it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Have you seen this? Look up right now, McBe tallow. The way they packaged it, it literally looks like extreme mayonnaise. It's just like, it's like a jar. It's a jar with like a black label and just says beef tallow and then it says McBean Farm.

[Ronnie Caram]

But that's just like a. That's just like a normal font. It's like a. I mean it's not like Helvetica, but I'm not like a font. Oh, I see what you mean. Like the logo they upgraded, it's very, very, very.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's like very, very masculine.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's very Yellowstone. They're trying to do the Yellowstone thing with the M. Like, we got it, guys. You're a Yellowstone ripoff. But

[Ben Mandelker]

if you look at. Just look up tallow. Just look up tallow and you just see all the other tallows that are out there just look so much nicer.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, well, they all look kind of like coconut oil when they're packed, but, yeah, that's.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just don't like this packaging. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm a sick diet.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's not great, for sure. So she. And of course, Ali's like, well, how is it having your business connected to McBees? Do you think that maybe advertising might help? Okay, okay. And Casey's like, well, I put in, like, $12,000 into this business. I haven't even seen any money, so maybe that would be. Be great. You know, I've been working on it five days a week because I really care about the products, and I believe in tallow.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Ali's like, so my first job out of college was working for a brand that I did 10x the revenue. That was industry terms. And I did that the first month. Revenue was $1 first month. So I brought up to $10. So hello, 10x. And then I was hired, and I learned the power of selling online. Wow. Congratulations. You learned that people buy things online. Ali, you really are a marketing guru.

[Ronnie Caram]

And Ali's like, you guys just built this kitchen. You're getting married. I mean, this is a really cool storyline. You guys should document it. Like, this is totally. This is content, like, everywhere. Look. Content, content, content. I mean, you guys could be like, people could really get into Tallow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tallow is the new TikTok feta. Okay. You should just totally document this everywhere.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Ali's like, yeah, from what I've seen online, this is a very hot topic. Everywhere you go, people are like, tallow, tallo, talo, talo tala. It's. It's like, literally nuts. I could take this to the next level.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we go back to Cole, and he's like, boy, that. That game at your house was real something, Jesse. I feel like I learned too much about Stephen and Ally, right?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, Cole says. As if he was not the one

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

who said, I only last two minutes.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Jess is like, yeah, it was like, he likes to share. I don't. I don't really like to do that. I don't share none. I don't like, you know, I mean, I lit. And also I once, like, if they're crazy over there. And Cole's like, yeah, one time I went over to their house, and they had, like, 150, like, candles lit. He's like, yeah, I don't like candles, like, unless I've, like, cooked bacon or something. But other than that, that, yeah, yikes.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Cole's like, wow, you guys really talked about yourselves. I've never heard you be that open before. And he's like, well, we never really talked about it to other people. You know, like having summer, that was like a really big change. And it was really hard on us, you know, like, lack of sleep, change of lifestyle, you know, it's just been really hard. How do you think she feels living in the house without you, 65 miles away while you're hunting and drinking with your brother? I know, I don't want to hear hard it is for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did they ever name their baby by the way? Because we know about Blair, but what's the other baby's name?

[Ronnie Caram]

Blair.

[Ben Mandelker]

Blair.

[Ronnie Caram]

I don't know what their baby's name is.

[Ben Mandelker]

I feel like they never named it. I'm pretty sure it has no name yet.

[Ronnie Caram]

Like the streets. So Jesse's like, huh?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's named Candle.

[Ronnie Caram]

Candle.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was inspired by seeing that candle, that non bacon use of a, of a candle at Steven's house.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, yeah, like, with everything going on with my dad and like us having a kid, it's a lot of pressure. Like, it's just bad right now. Like you just get into the grind of things, you know, like, maybe I put our marriage second or third, but I'm sure Ally would say the same thing. Life has ups and downs, but it just seems like we sure are going downhill. Oh, shucks. I'm not buying this nice anymore. I saw you last week in that restaurant,

[Ben Mandelker]

experienced summer. Their child's name is Summer, by the way. So now I think I just get

[Ronnie Caram]

them all mixed together, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Especially because there's like a lot of summers on Bravo. So I hope, yeah, I hope that's that baby. That I hope that baby is fun. Because last time I heard, summer should be fun. So then we see Ally riding along with Steven, Blonde Alley, they're in the car. She's like, can we go to Starbucks? And he's like, yes, ma'.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Am. God, I love that. That wasn't even on my list of daily activities, but I'm gonna wedge you right in there after memberships and before journaling.

[Ben Mandelker]

And he's like, by the way, how was that meeting? How'd that meet and go with Casey? She goes, well, I think that this tallow has the potential to be one of the biggest products in the McBees. I'm curious what your thoughts are and the partnerships you guys have, because it sounds like from her point of view, skin care tallow is hers. Hers. All hers. Is it True that you guys let women have their own businesses.

[Ronnie Caram]

Did she even get up two hours after y' all just so you can have time to journal? He's like, well, when I wanted to do tallow my idea back in 2023, it was with my ex. And, you know, I built up the branding, I built up the packaging, and I tried to push my ex to take over. Apparently, she doesn't care about orders. And that's why she's gone. I couldn't get her memberships. Sorry. That's why she's gone. I couldn't her to do it. Casey, why don't you take this over and run with it? That's what I said. Casey. No, nothing. Casey, I said, you're a blonde person. You do it.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Have you ever seen a grown woman stick her hands into a bucket of fat and run away? That's what she did.

[Ben Mandelker]

Until she realized that I wasn't being

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

literal when I said run with it.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, she mentioned investing and buying everything. It's like if it's. If it's her brand, but, like, it sounds like it's yours. So, like, I don't know, like, I think you guys need to have a conversation. 20. I will take 20. That is 20. Thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Something that no one ever wants to hear. You should have a conversation with Casey. Well, I can't wait for that. So then Ali is like, yeah, Stephen. And Stephen and Casey, they haven't even narrowed down exactly what everyone's role is. I mean, this is a massive deal. This is not a one man job. It's going to take a team to grow this brand. And I just have a lot of questions. And each question is worth 1% of the company. And the game is called 20 questions. Okay, see you at the signing.

[Ronnie Caram]

So, of course Stephen's like, wow, Ally's interested in this now. Wow. This has the potential to be a real thing. We can blow it up. And I was just. I would just think that if I was in Casey's shoes, I would think, God, why are these shoes so cheap? But then I would also think I would understand. I'm overwhelmed. This is beyond me. I can't do this. If we're gonna scale this, I need Steve McBee Jr. To come in and do every damn thing. I mean, she should be begging me at this point. Why are you so defensive? Like, you haven't even had the conversation with her. You've apparently not done a lot. Like, you made a canva, you know, like, we've seen the labels, okay? They're not that Intense.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's got to be fussy. He's got to be fussy because this is the classic thing. It's like, like he's just like, okay, whatever, do the stupid tallow thing. I don't care. Like, whatever.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

I'll.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll, I'll post something on Instagram. And then she does it, and then she does. Well at it. And now he realizes that he missed the boat, so now he's got to get mad at her almost to be like, well, I, I. It wasn't my fault that I missed it. It's just that they're just not being professional. They don't even know what they're doing. So now he's getting himself all, ask for help.

[Ronnie Caram]

Why won't she even ask for help? Like, she should be coming to me. I know everything. I do this. I have a degree. Like, okay, well, this is you stepping into the TV show and then deciding you're suddenly going to act like you're active, a part of all of these businesses. The only time we saw this guy actually do something in the business. Well, I mean, except all the multiple failure meetings that we've seen was when he was doing the thing last season with the selling the stakes thing, and then he cut all the fat off the stakes, and then they got fired. So. I don't know. I know, don't. I? I wouldn't even trust Casey over you at this point.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I wouldn't. Let's go on to something that's more exciting than kidney fat, which is Masha's boudoir photos. So she is. She's in a. In an apartment. The photographer's there. Is it Monica? Monique. Monica. And they are. They've set up a little set. Ally. Ally comes over to Art direct these boudoir photos, and they. They're gonna do. They're gonna do this photo shoot, and Masha is very uncomfortable at first. Well, actually, first, Ally comes in and she tries to do some, like, Gen Z language. She sees Masha and she goes, period. I was like, you are no Keda.

[Ronnie Caram]

She's like, queen. Yes, Queen us. We are gonna do this together. We are gonna do a calendar. Okay, give me some. Let's commit. Oh, my God. Are your boobs real? I can tell. What? Like, who says that much? It's like, oh, my God. It's not good. You can tell, like, what a weird thing to say to some. And she's like, yeah, okay, give me some looks. Give me some looks. Oh, God. That is giving LinkedIn. That is giving LinkedIn. Give. Put your hand on your face like this. Oh, my God. Sex symbol. I did it. Nailed it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. She's like. Like, this is something. This is nothing. This is something. This is nothing. So Masha Sundays, in my 20s, I did some modeling.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

But, you know, it's been a few years since I was in the back pages of Belarus Vogue. So I'm starting off a little slow.

[Ronnie Caram]

Ruble Saver.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is Ruble Saver. I was on the COVID I was

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

on three, two, one. Belarus Contact magazine.

[Ronnie Caram]

Out of all the girls in the family, Ali is most relatable to me. She's taking pictures of me in lingerie. So it is fun. She's taking questions while I pose. So fun. So, so fun.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

But it is a little difficult to express to her that there is no A at the end of Belarus.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but it's got to have USA in it, right? No, it's just Belarus, not Bella. Usa. Bella.

[Ronnie Caram]

The ruse is this is really the USA because there ain't nothing else.

[Ben Mandelker]

You are.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

You are really, really trying hard to make this fit your world vision

[Ronnie Caram]

or the liberty.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Belarus.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is that what it's called?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

No.

[Ronnie Caram]

So she's like, you're doing great, sweetie. Masha's looks. She's like, oh, my God, your parents look so young. How old is your father? She's like, oh, my God. Don't think about it, Marsha. He's 55. Do not think about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Ali is like, so they wrap up, they have a little bit of champagne, and Ali is like, so do you think you're gonna drop Steve McBee off at jail?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

She goes, well, I want to go,

[Ben Mandelker]

but I want to be there.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

But he said, it's all up to Christie. So if she's not going to allow

[Ben Mandelker]

me to go, then I cannot go.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

The way I was told was Christy said I cannot be at family occasions, even though me, Masha, high beauty model

[Ronnie Caram]

from Belarus, I cannot wait for Christy to see completely tasteful boudoir porn. I'm doing her boudoir calendar I'm doing for gifts.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

But I have plan. I will put giant latte in the middle of a field, and while she is distracted and drinking it, I will go to jailhouse and see him off.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Steve Jr. Calls, and Ali's like, hi, Steve. We're just over here shooting grandma's boudoir photos. Excuse me, Ali, you know, she acts like she's so nice, but she keeps making these little comments. What? How are people not smacking Ally? Like, what the hell?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, and also, like, what if you're going to do this. Can you at least make a good pun? Grand Masha. I mean, come on. It's right there.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, it's right there. There you go.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's right there.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, I just pulled up. Okay. She, like, do not come in here. It is so dirty. She's wearing a. A very racy turtleneck right now. Nope, I will stay right where I am.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Oh, she's. We.

[Ronnie Caram]

I just came.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's wearing something from Lane Bryant.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do not come up here. So then we go business casual, right? Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, Lane Bryant, I think, is for bigger. It's like oversized.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh.

[Ronnie Caram]

Or larger size stuff.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Talbots.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's wearing something from Talbots.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, There we go.

[Ronnie Caram]

So did you see me?

[Ben Mandelker]

I had a feeling. I was like, something sounds wrong about that. That. Wait a second. I just.

[Ronnie Caram]

Radar.

[Ben Mandelker]

My Lane Bryant dar went off. I was like, wait a second. You misused that brand.

[Ronnie Caram]

No, I. I know Lane Bryant because I, you know, I've always had some weight issues, and when I was a kid, I would think, gosh, why don't they have that for guys, you know? Yeah, like, oversized stuff. All I got was, like, three pairs of pants from, you know, the Chunky Kids, Dillards or whatever back in the day.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, the guys that are totally indelicate about it. For women, it's like Lane Bryant for guys, like, big and tall.

[Ronnie Caram]

For real.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's so true. I mean, it's just so, like, indelicate. Back to the farm. You know what's so funny?

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Our.

[Ben Mandelker]

Our note taker accidentally, instead of writing farm fulfillment, wrote farm dull filament. And I have to say, that is exactly the way it should be spelled.

[Ronnie Caram]

I think that was for you. So Stephen Jr. Is with Casey, and he's like, cole must be watching Blair right now. Do you have his location? Jesus. It's like, no. He goes, well, that should be something now that y' all are engaged. See where Ally is? Better be taking a nap right now. She's not around me. I don't want her away, break or focus on anybody else.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Yeah. He's like, so how do you feel about that? Tell us Skincare line right now. You got. You're doing a lot of journaling about it. Oh, that's right. You don't get to. You gotta wake up after the journaling time.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, yeah, well, I need help, though. It's, like, very time consuming, and I figured out a way to be able to work on it every single day, but I don't know. It's just with Blair, it's hard.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

He's like, well, all right. And you're planning a wedding too. Okay, well, I told you at the

[Ben Mandelker]

beginning, you keep 100 of all the profits.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

All the profits. And I thought it was going to be a side project you could work on, but it's not. It's a monster. And we're still. We're sitting on that. We're sitting on. If we do this right. Okay. We're sitting on an actual monster. It's like putting a chair on top of coal. And I think we're looking at a product that could do $5 million a year in revenue. And if we do it right, we're gonna have to have a certain certified area specific to skincare here. Full time production people, full on marketing scheme, and people who are not pessimistic about Tallow.

[Ronnie Caram]

Tallow has more momentum than any other product in the US of A. And that is it. And that is why we need in here. Ally's done something. You know, Let me tell you what Ally does. She runs companies. And we need Ally in here. You're going to give. Here's how it's going to work. 40 to you, case Jesse, 40% to the McBees, 20% to Ally. She's like, what Ally? What are you talking about?

[Ben Mandelker]

At first I thought he meant Jesse's alley profits. Yeah. 100% all the way down to 40. And then giving 20% of the company to this, this dingbat who just showed up, just. And her big thing was like, you got to sell things online. Like, no, if you want to use Ali's expertise, you hire her as a contractor, she doesn't get ownership of the company. Company, Jesus.

[Ronnie Caram]

Yes. Or you give her a percentage with a code or something like that because she's an influencer. So she's gonna go on her page and be like, look, Tallow, I use it and then people will buy it. But Jesus Christ, 20 of the company?

[Ben Mandelker]

What is going on in his brain right now?

[Ronnie Caram]

Yeah, we should have seen this coming. When? In the car, when Allie was talking to her, she's like, so how do you feel about advertising? No, no, get. Get your hands off.

[Ben Mandelker]

Get. So get your non tele moisturized hands off this company. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

So Casey's like, wow, this pretty common for Stephen to show a little bit of interest in something, completely ignore it for a while, and then completely disregard the people that have been doing all the work. Yes, exactly. So please find a way to stand up for yourself.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

He's like, well, how do you envision this if Ally and I come into it and he'll take the brand to the top?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, what part of you having to sell off all of your farm says you're going to take this to the top? Oh, I'm sorry, you had a local ad about a car wash. So therefore you're qualified to do this thing. Get out of here.

[Ronnie Caram]

The first season was all they need to get this contract because if they get this contract, it's going to save the farm. And the whole season leads up to this finale episode and the guy's like, no, you don't get the contract. Like, damn it. Then the second. The second. What is this? Season three? So then the second season is this whole, like, we have to do this to save the farm. Then they have to start selling off the farm and losing everything. Although Cole did do the soybean thing that ended up doing okay. And now this season, they're selling off the entire farm. And he's like, you need me. I do everything you did. You've done nothing. But this farm, this farm is blowing up and you're supposed to be the head of it. Now it's not the time I hand you my tail up company. He's like, this could be a 5 million dollar company because she made it big. She made the tallow.

[Ben Mandelker]

She is the one. And Steven's like, you know, Ally, she

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

brings a ton of value. Aritzia, in the last two and a half months, she moved $1.1 million product. And that was just in one month alone. The next month she sold $500 billion dollars. She took over Aritzia. She actually owns Aritzia. And she turned Aritzia into Macy's. She's amazing. She's gotta come on.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Aritzia is everything.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

I love Aritzia.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

And he's like, this could be in Target, Sephora, Alta. Okay? But it's not.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

This could be. This could be in a store that's part of a nationwide boycott for two months that's gone so badly they've had to fire their CEO. Don't you understand the potential here?

[Ronnie Caram]

So Cole calls and Steven's like, do you have player? And he's like, yep. Cole, Casey and I are trying to figure this out, okay? If I come into this, if you guys are lucky enough to get me into this, See, you're not even in it. Why are you sitting here making these hard bargains? This guy is such an arrogant. So he's telling Cole, you know, and then Ally can come in and Then we can push it on social media, and she'll get 20. And Cole's like, that's kind of a lot. And he's like, McBean Farms has 40. Casey, 40, Ally, 20. She's like, this is like a product I really care about. I mean, I want you guys to help, but it makes me a little nervous because Ali's only been here one month. You know, I think you should only be able to get over by people who have been here, I don't know, as long as I've known you. You know, the rest of you are me over, so I don't also want to get over by a newbie. You know, I feel like give.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't. I'm really bad at valuating things. I don't know. Or valuing things. I don't know how much ownership the McBee should have. I think if they're using the McBee meats and they're using the McBee infrastructure, for sure. Like, it's not unreasonable to ask for McBee Family Farms to have some sort of percentage. Yeah, I really don't know what it would be. I think 40 seems actually quite high, but Ally gets zero. She gets actually negative 10. She actually owes what she actually has to pay this company at this point. I want her to pay the Tallow company because I can't stand this. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caram]

And it's also. It also seems like a control thing for him. He's like, oh, now I can tie this girl in. Now she'll be contracted to me. What she to do? Just leave me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that was creepy. So then we go to Jesse and Ally's city house, and Ally's on the floor playing with Summer, and she's like, jesse, we need a bottle. Please, we need a bottle. And so he gets her bottle and everything. It's, like, tense and awkward, and he's like, look. Look what I got you. I'm the savior. Your mom can hold it. You didn't put the bottles away because he's talking to the baby. Baby Summer, as we know her name is called, obviously. And we always knew. And Ali is like. We were busy, so Casey texted me, and she had a conversation, I guess, with Stephen about the Tallow. She just is confused, and Stephen was insane. I'm just so. The amount of times they talk about Tallow on this episode, it's like, that's all they have to talk about. It's either Tallow or Cole splooging in two minutes.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's like, don't forget about that boudoir. Shoot for the calendar. That was pretty big. That was a pretty big Sponsored by tallow watershed moment. It was a tallow shed moment in Tallow tv. So Ally, we see Ally calling Casey and she's like, I want to. I wanted to skip on your conversation with Stephen. She's like, he's thinking it's getting too big and it's going to be five million dollars. But Ally gets. It's going to be a five million dollar business, but Ali gets 20%. And she's like, what? And so Ally's like, yeah, Casey, did you stand up for yourself? I mean, that's your business, but you know, no one deserves that. That's yours. That's your company.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, but, but. And Ali's like, you never know what could happen. I mean, I hope and pray it works out for them. But what happens if something does happen with Stephen and Ally and she gets to take off with 20% of your company? Cole's like, yeah, I do think that there's like a lot that he could help with and like, he already knows how to do things like drive trucks and the truck can bring the tallow around, you know, so that's like pretty good. That's probably worth 70 of the company. But like, I definitely think that like, honestly, you need to like be the majority owner by far. And like, I don't know, like McBee Farms owns like a portion, but you need to, you need to be the majority owner. Casey.

[Ronnie Caram]

Well, he tells us that. Well, he tells her that, but then he tells us, well, I kind of feel like I'm in the middle here between Casey and Steven and talent.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

Hello.

[Ronnie Caram]

You know, I want to support Casey, but the farms could really use this money. Oh, you. Of course, of course. You're like, wow, this was, this was a good thing. But now that it's making some money, I'm gonna go take it from my wife because my company. Oh, gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, because, you know, that company paid for his house, so he's sort of like indebted. You know, it's like the mafia. It's like this for you, so you better give the, that, that kidney fat face cream back over.

[Ronnie Caram]

So they hang up. And Jesse's like, well, that's nice that Casey trusts you enough to call you about that stuff. Yeah, they're. Are you new here?

[Ben Mandelker]

She also, like, she has no friends. She has literally no one to call. It's like, you gosh. Or she's calling movie phone. So Ally is like, yeah, honestly, phone. I just was. There's Nothing. I'm not saying that she's. She's.

[Ronnie Caram]

Hello and welcome.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's isolated.

[Ronnie Caram]

Movie phone.

[Ben Mandelker]

Could I buy two tickets to what Should I do with my Tallow business? I'm sorry, I did not get that. What's a good percentage? 7:30. Okay, I'll take 7. 7%.

[Ronnie Caram]

So now we start talking about the relationship and Ali is saying she was expressing her concerns about game night. You know, she's like, I don't know if you really heard me, you know, because like, I feel like I wasn't heard, but I could have done that. Ten days of intimacy. But you've been gone. You know, it's like you've been gone the past few days. Like we did the game and then you bolted. And he's like, but I didn't realize me going to the farms was really a big deal. Like, I mean, it was like, it's not like it was a specific reason or anything like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

You didn't even ask about Summer, though. Well, that's because we're in fall. No, your daughter, who? Summer. What about it? It's fall. No, your daughter, who? Summer. Oh, we're doing one of those loops again, Ally. Yeah, I know because. Well, I feel like you have a lot of freedom to be able to just go up to the farm.

[Ronnie Caram]

She says that. She's saying like, I feel like, stop

[Ben Mandelker]

doing your impersonation of me, Ally. It's like, it's disconcerting to.

[Ronnie Caram]

He's like, I mean, I feel like you have a reason. You're always up at the farm. But then I have to like be here and take care of the kid and stuff. And he's like, well, but I encourage you to go out with your friends and do this and that and I'll watch Summer. How's she going to do that when you're at the farm? Are you not listening to this? And how. Anyways, like, I would give you time and I would do it, but you, you won't let me do any. Any. You won't let me do it. So if you're not going to take advantage of this free night we have, then I'm going to go to the farm and hunt and hang out with my boy buddies. No. A free night.

[Additional Male Speaker (possibly a guest or co-host)]

She can.

[Ben Mandelker]

You guys can just spend it with each other.

[Ronnie Caram]

It's a. She wants to hang out with you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, so they both feel like they're going through the motions and she's like, she just wants to see change. Cuz like anybody say can sit here and say that we're going to change, but it's actually the actions. And when I look at the McBe Boys, I say, those are three men who can definitely change. Like, they are.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Ben Mandelker]

They're malleable men who are not set in their ways.

[Ronnie Caram]

Men of action. He doesn't even know how to open a tractor door. You know what I mean? And then Ally does. Is. Is saying exactly what she needs in all of this. So I mean, they keep saying communication is their problem, but hers is pretty solid here. She's like, you know, I mean, I just want to feel wanted. Any relationship, a person wants to feel wanted. He's like, yeah, but. But that goes both ways. Well, you know, and like, if you're saying that you don't, then I can say I don't either. So, like, you don't seem excited when I get home, and you don't even say hi to me when I get home.

[Ben Mandelker]

Be exciting when you come home. So that way people are excited.

[Ronnie Caram]

Does anybody even know you're there? Like, the door has more personality.

[Ben Mandelker]

The Wagyu experience has more personality. So they're like, well, yeah, we'll just work on it, cuz, like, we just need to try to find that spark again, I guess. Well, anything else you want to get off your chest? I don't think so. Okay. That's where it ends. Yikes. Good luck on that spark. We'll be. We'll be sure to put a. Let's see if we can add an air tag to it. See if we can find that spark

[Ronnie Caram]

seeking spark. Oh, my gosh. The tallow.

[Ben Mandelker]

The tallow Natal. Well, thanks everyone for being here for McBee Dynasty episode. And we still have way more shows later this week. We got the Valley, we've got Next Gen. We got Orange county, so lots of content. Keep an eye on your feed and we'll catch you on the next episode of Watch what Crap ends.

[Ronnie Caram]

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