#3461 RHOA S17E15: Rest in Peach

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3461: “RHOA S17E15: Rest in Peach”

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: July 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie recap Season 17 Episode 15 of The Real Housewives of Atlanta (“Rest in Peach”), which finds the ladies continuing their dramatic Scotland trip. After a blowout between Shamea and Portia at Phaedra’s birthday dinner, the housewives handle the aftermath during tartan shopping, club nights, graveyard tours, and a “surprise” formal dinner. The hosts dissect Shamea and Portia’s feud, the ever-shifting alliances, and the art of housewives-level “lick backs,” all while celebrating Bravo’s uniquely over-the-top mix of petty drama and heartfelt moments.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Scotland Trip Recap: Setting and Vibe

• The episode kicks off with the group still in Scotland, reeling after Shamea and Portia's explosive fight at dinner (06:39).
• Ben and Ronnie joke about the trip’s unglamorous activities: tartan shopping and cemetery tours, wringing laughs out of the housewives’ lackluster itinerary.
  • Ben: “They don’t really make Scotland look that fun... It’s just like a plaid store and a cemetery.” (15:52)
• The mood is moody and brooding — but as Ben observes, “I think I want to go to Scotland now. I love a graveyard tour.” (16:20)

2. Shamea vs. Portia: Friendship Meltdown

• The crux of the tension is Shamea accusing Portia’s mom of trying to sleep with her dad, escalated by Portia retorting with her own family put-downs.
• Ben and Ronnie break down the fighting styles:
  • Ronnie: “You are a fighter is like Shamea... Portia's a ‘you actually are’ fighter.” (11:44)
  • They highlight that Portia always claps back with upgraded dirt, escalating instead of deflecting.
• Ronnie notes that Shamea’s attempts to be a villain aren’t landing because her shade lacks the comedic timing and panache that fans love.

3. Aftermath: Who’s the Victim?

• In classic Housewives fashion, each tries to claim the victim narrative:
  • Shamea’s hurt, but as Ben says: “You started it… what are you crying about?” (09:36)
  • Ronnie: “She comes back [to the club]… and it comes off as a little crazy. And, you know, everyone's reaction is pretty much the same — they're like, why? What is she doing?” (26:59)
• Portia’s group leaves the club in protest of Shamea’s dramatic return, a move both hosts see as “knowing when to remove herself from the situation.” (29:44)

4. Club Night Chaos: Housewives Talent Show

• Club Coco becomes the site of an impromptu showcase. K. Michelle takes the mic, drawing other Housewives up to perform their singles.
  • Ronnie: “Why are you making me listen to like 6 Housewives songs in a row? I’m at a club, I paid a cover—no, put on regular things.” (18:38)

5. Shamea’s Quest for Approval

• Ben and Ronnie analyze Shamea’s season-long quest to be seen as more than just Portia’s sidekick:
  • Ben: “It’s all tied in with wanting approval… she wants to prove that she is a Real Housewife—she deserves this peach as much as anyone else.” (34:21)
• Ronnie: “Stop being so hyper-focused on trying to fit in… just be yourself the way we used to know and love her!” (31:17)

6. “Lick Back” Philosophy & Shade Etiquette

• Ben and Ronnie debate the (lack of) art in Shamea’s “lick back” attempts (retaliation):
  • Ben: “There is an art to a lick back… If you’re not doing it right, it’s going to land wrong.” (45:21)
  • They agree Portia’s jabs are funny and creative, which is why she gets away with more.

7. Phaedra’s Birthday Dinner & The Lady of the Glen

• Phaedra is celebrated with a surprise “Lady of the Glen” certificate:
  • Ben: “This is like when someone names a star after you… what legitimacy does this have?” (68:47)
• Portia gives a dramatic, sentimental speech, which Shamea snarks about (“You’re best friends now? Phaedra wasn’t even at your wedding!” 66:59).

8. Group Dynamics, Power Shifts, and Housewife Authenticity

• The hosts pick apart social media “receipts” and on-show alliances.
  • Ronnie: “If you look on social media, you don’t see them hanging out… that’s where you know things are real on Instagram, guys.” (67:29)
  • They note how Bravo friendships and feuds play out as much online as they do on camera.

9. Cemeteries, Spas, Scottish Costumes, and Comic Relief

• The graveyard tour goes dark fast, with tales of serial killers and “burking.”
  • Ben: “This was the world’s first concentration camp. Feels a bit dark for a silly haunted moment, you know?” (59:18)
• The “spa” turns out to be a sad hot tub, providing comic fodder for the hosts. (48:11)
• A Scottish dance and accordion close out the festivities, with both hosts noting that this is one of the least eventful (but strangely enjoyable) Housewives cast trips.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On fighting styles:
  • Ronnie (11:14): “Portia is like a school of improv fighter. It’s like, yes, and… she always adds information.”
• On Shamea’s dramatic return to the club:
  • Ronnie (26:59): “She comes in like she is Emmy holding up the sign that says it’s your birthday. It just feels totally so shameful.”
• On the trip’s lack of excitement:
  • Ben (15:52): “They don’t really make Scotland look that fun… just a plaid store and a cemetery.”
  • Ronnie (75:41): “A cemetery and an accordion. Who planned this birthday?”
• On Housewives “lick backs”:
  • Ben (45:21): “There is an art to a lick back… maybe you need to think about how you are having your moments.”
• On the Lady of the Glen gift:
  • Ben (68:47): “This is like when someone names a star after you… what legitimacy does this have?”
• On Housewives sanctimony:
  • Ben (64:26): “Everyone always takes a very sanctimonious stance and then they violate it.”
• On the Scotland trip:
  • Ben (76:19): “I feel like this was a six or seven out of ten trip… not the most exciting Housewives trip we’ve had.”
• On Shamea’s approval-seeking:
  • Ben (34:21): “She wants to prove that she’s a Real Housewife… as much as anyone else.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 06:39: Start of RHOA Recap – The state of the group after Shamea & Portia’s fight
• 09:36: Analysis of Shamea's ‘victim’ cries and Portia's calm exit
• 11:14: The “you are” vs. “you actually are” fighting style
• 18:38: Club night – K. Michelle MCs, Housewives perform their own music
• 26:59: Shamea’s “victim comeback” at the club and group’s mass exit
• 29:44: Portia’s group departs, leaving Shamea onstage
• 31:17 to 34:21: Deep dive on Shamea's social insecurities and need for approval
• 45:21: The philosophy of Housewives ‘lick backs’
• 48:11: Failed “spa day” at the Scottish manor
• 66:12: Formal birthday dinner and over-the-top speeches
• 68:47: Portia gifts Phaedra a “Lady of the Glen” title – hosts riff on novelty gifts
• 75:41: Concluding takes on the Scotland trip: a “six out of ten” Housewives journey

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Final Thoughts

• Ben: “Nothing happened… and yet I’m really enjoying this season. The casting is just so strong.” (77:30)
• Ronnie: “I’m bored—but I’ve enjoyed it when it’s gotten really good and fun… just think they have a lot of [lingering].” (77:43)

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Episode Tone and Takeaway

Light, irreverent, and shade-laden, the hosts expertly mock the Housewives’ drama while affectionately highlighting the real friend-group dynamics that make RHOA so watchable. Even when “nothing happens,” Ben and Ronnie extract every laugh—and every ounce of insight—out of the week’s manufactured battles, Scottish tourist traps, and the art of Housewives pettiness.

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Next up: The guys will recap Real Housewives of London as it premieres on Bravo.

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Listen for more recaps, shade, and Bravo obsession on Watch What Crappens!

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Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens. Well, hello and welcome to the homeless at the Real Housewives of Atlanta. But to watch what crap ins a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. Including and primarily the Real Housewives of Atlanta today. I'm Ben Mandelker. And joining me today in a beautiful. Is it a, is it a dark green shirt or is this late gray shirt? One can never know.

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It's a slate gray shirt that says atari.

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Whoa. It's Mr. Ronnie Caram.

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What an exciting time. Hi, Ben.

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Hi. I love, I love your support of a legacy brand. So it's like you're in Blade Runner. How are you doing today, Ronnie?

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I'm good. What's going on with you over there, baby?

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I'm great. Had a nice little weekend. I feel refreshed. Dom and I went down to Laguna beach for the night on Friday just for the fun of it, which was great. I was like, you know, Orange county is back. It's back. Gotta go check in on Orange county itself, see how it's doing, see. See if everyone's okay down there. And it was a lovely time.

[B]

And everybody was okay.

[A]

Yes, we actually. So we actually ate at Amar Santana's restaurant in Laguna Beach. You know, do you remember Amar? Amar. He went to Morocco once. He was. He went. He got very far in his first season, which I think was Top Chef California. And then he came back. He's been back, like, once or twice. Yeah, we love Amar. We love Amar. Didn't love his restaurant. I will say that, though, I have to say.

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Oh, it was.

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I'm just saying this to let.

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I.

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This is a public service announcement, because apparently this is what I do on Mondays now, is that I. I announced the mediocre food experiences I had over the weekend. But it was definitely better than the fry fest, so there's that. But, yeah, I was, like, so excited for, like, this, like, finally tasting a Mars cooking. And it was, like. It was. It was. Some stuff was very good. I'm not gonna lie. There were two things that were, like, really very, very good. But the rest was kind of like, oh, and every time I have a bad. I eat a bad meal down in Orange County, I always think of Heather Dubrow in, like, her first or second season saying, there's no good food in Orange County.

[B]

So we're gonna start the restaurant. Yes, the Heather Dubrow restaurant. And then she got ripped apart in the Orange County Register or whatever, and they're like, how dare you? You're an outsider. You're coming in here telling us our Qdobo sucks, huh?

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Well, I believe that the Javiers is wonderful. And we see there. Well, I.

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You have me terrified about this. This parasite thing that's going around, because last week, you're like, you can't eat any vegetables. And everybody's getting this parasite in LA because of vegetables, and that's normal. I'm a salad person. That's what I make for the week. I'll have, like, a salad every day. And. Not now. Now I'm just eating, you know, avocado sandwiches with some cheese on there. And then. So I'm gonna. You know, I'm gonna have diabetes because of this stupid thing that's around. But then, you know, whenever I go to the grocery store, everybody else is eating all the vegetables. They don't.

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I did have a salad at. At a Mars restaurant. I had a salad that was very mediocre.

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I even got something delivered. I got a salmon thing, like, from Uber Eats, and it was on a bed of lettuce. I was like, no, but I. I risked it. Risked it. I didn't risk it. I risked.

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If you have to go running away, we'll understand. Well, apparently. I mean, but luckily now it's been kind of more. They. They've isolated where the. Where the issues have come from. Although Whole Foods, apparently. I had. I had read somewhere. I don't know, was it Whole Foods?

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I don't know.

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Whatever. The point is, you're alive and there's no parasite's gonna take you down. Ronnie.

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Yeah, I made it. So I think I'm gonna go eat some vegetables today. Lord knows I need them. So today is Real Housewives of Atlanta. If you want this recap on video, go get it. It's on Patreon. We do videos every day. You can also get them free a week later on YouTube. Did you already say that?

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No, I. I haven't go.

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The parasite got to my brain. Yeah, the tiny bit of lettuce under salmon parasite got me. We'll be doing Amazon Live today about home improve. I'm a disaster in that area. Which we'll talk about. Stay on Amazon Live. Next week is crappy hour at 5:30 Pacific. If you want Amazon live links or anything like that. All the stuff we're telling you about is in our link in bio on Instagram. Okay, Today it's Real Housewives of Atlanta. Season 17 Episode 15 Waking the Dead

[A]

yeah, yeah, waking the dead. We're still in Scotland and we just had this big fight where Shamia was like, why don't you want to bring Pilar around my household? By the way, your mom tried to sleep with my dad. And then when Portia countered, Shamia's like, I've had enough. This is crazy. I'm not gonna stand for this anymore. So she ran out and nearly knocked over a vase in the process. So now we're in the van with Kelly and Shamia, and Kelly's telling us after dinner, I think it was a great idea to separate Shamia from Portia. Everybody is not on one accord. Shamia is hysterical. Portia is crazy. We're in another country. I just don't want any issues. Which is funny because then in like about five minutes, she's like, girl, we gotta go back to the club and meet up with the other girls. I'm like, so what happened to separating Shamia and Portia? Also, Shamia is the one who left, so don't act like you separated them. That's fine. Okay, I'm coming in hot For Kelly right off. Right off of her first line.

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Well, Kelly didn't. Well, I mean, Sham is the one who walked off. Right. Kelly just.

[A]

I know, but I feel like. Well, I guess I. Maybe I'm misreading this because Kelly is like, I think it was a great idea to separate Shami and Portia. And in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, like, she's taking credit for separating them. And I'm like, you didn't separate them. But now I'm just saying, in general, she supports the idea. So I will pull back. I. I came in hot on Kelly because I wanted to feel something.

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And you sound like me just getting mad to feel things.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, sometimes you just want to get mad at someone. Yeah. This is the. I mean, this is the very first line of recap of the entire week. This is going to set the tone of our entire week. And, you know, Kelly, too. So let's just start in this place. Let's get ready to start telling people off all week long, because we know it's going to start. It's. It's starting with this, and then it's going to move to Game of Thrones. I've got some people to tell off, and then, you know, below deck, I. There's. There's a lot. A lot of people to tell off on below deck. I haven't even watched McBe yet, but I already know I'll be mad. So, like, let's. Let's get. Let's get the juices flowing. Let's get them ready.

[B]

So they're in the car, and now they go to the Airbnb, and Shami is crying, and Kelly's like, don't let them steal your shine. Oh, no one stole her sign. She started it. I'm sorry. I've said that, like, 90 times between, like, probably the whole season. But you started it. What are you crying about? And Shimmy is like, I just shut down. It's just easier to walk away for me because you started a fine. Why are you starting it? I mean, Portia has been so trained by now over the years after being paused on the show for getting physical. And then, I mean, multiple times where Portia has gone way too far and gotten in trouble. We know what that looks like. And this wasn't really it until you

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pushed, pushed, pushed, pushed, pushed.

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So pleased with the crying. And she's like, oh, yeah. I'm just always careful for other people's feelings, even though it hurts my feelings.

[A]

Yeah, very careful. Okay. They. But, I mean, there's nothing about Shamia this season about her walking into the coffee shop to meet Angela and be like. And saying to the hostess, is there someone who looks like Sasquatch who's in here that says, I'm always careful of other people's feelings? Yeah, it's not. Also, the thing is with Porsche is if you come with, come at her with something, even if Shamia was completely correct, even if like it is, what happened was true. Porsche is always going to clap back with some. She's going to clap back with something similar. She does a, she's a Ur fighter. Like, she just did it to Kelly earlier this season when Kelly was like, you know, Portia sleeps with married men. Then Portia was like, well, you slept with a married man. You slept with a preacher in fact, off of an airplane. Like, she just like, we don't know if it's true or not, but she just does it. So like, you have to know Portia well enough that if you say your dad, your mom is trying to sleep with my dad, she's gonna be like, well, your mom tried to sleep with someone, someone else. Like, it's just, well, your mom did

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sleep with your, with her brother in law. This is what she said, which I loved. And see, here's the thing. You are a fighter is like Shamia because you'll say like, you suck. You suck. Well, your mom's, you know, you know, probably not, not the mom, but anything you say, she just goes, you are. Porsche's a, a you are plus fighter. Like she adds information. She doesn't just say, you are. You know what, I like rim.

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Yeah.

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Because you are, I think is the weakest way to fight where you're just, you are, it's like a little kid, you know. And Shamia fights like that. But Porsche, Porsche is like a school of improv fighter. It's like, yes. And you know, she's no. And she will give you an addition. Like, okay, I don't care if my mom did that. But your mom didn't just flirt with somebody, he fucked somebody and it was your brother in law, you know, so it takes it to a, it keeps it interesting at least. So I'll give Porsche credit for that.

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It's almost like, it's almost like Shamir is a you are fighter and Porsche is a you actually are fighter. It's like your mom's, your mom wants to sleep with my dad. Well, your mom actually slept with your uncle. It's like, oh, it's like Kelly, you sleep with married man. Well, you actually slept with the married preacher. So she does kind of, like, do that. Yes. Anding, like. And this is what. What else I brought to the. To the dinner party, kind of. That's an improv exercise, right? We all brought something to the dinner party.

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Yeah.

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Right or no.

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And literally everything. Yeah. One of them is like, throw a ball, and then you catch the ball and you change the ball and you throw the other kind of ball, and everybody has to focus on what kind of ball is being thrown. Yeah. Anything can be an improv game. But I also want to get into preaching in Atlanta because I've never heard of this many preachers getting laid. I mean, usually it's like once in a while you hear of a preacher doing something bad. Especially like a conservative, you know, like super Bible button or Bible. What am I trying to say? Bible beating something guy. Yeah, you'll hear of them in affairs or something like that. But this is the second preacher of the season because we had Kelly's. And then Portia came on Instagram. I was like, oh, really, Shimia? You fucked a preacher from somewhere? And also you. Your manager. So that's the thing that's going around this week. And I was like, wow, these preachers are really getting some ass.

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They.

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I'm in the wrong. I'm in the wrong profession. I mean, I preach all day, but it's just a bunch of. Maybe I should just switch my subject and start getting some.

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I was about to say D. Don't forget Prophet Lock, as well as many others. And also, let's not forget, Sorry, Prophet Lot. You're right. Profit Lot. And of course, Jamal Bryant, who. Who is our original preacher on Bravo, who got around.

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Yeah.

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As well as many others. But, yeah, you're right. I think that just in general, like, preachers. Just in general, preachers just get a lot of ass because they're in a position of power. Yeah, they're. And they're.

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They.

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They make the. It's exciting, I guess. And also, like, I don't know, like, I feel like there's like a storied history of religious figures, people who are high up in the clergy, who have also been, like, Haven't. Have not always lived up to the word that they preach. I think that's sort of a thing that happens. Hypocrite. Hypocrite. Yeah. Yeah. It just sort of happens in the clergy sometimes.

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Yeah. But these hypocrites have so much fun on this show.

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It's fun. Hypocrisy. Yeah.

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It seems like such a fun life so Shimmy is like, she'll never meet another friend like me. Okay, what is this? Aladdin?

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I was about to say that. Okay, Genie, Shimmy is like,

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Had them 40. Wait, what was it? Who had 40 thieves? No, no, I had them 40. Thief had a thousand tails. Master if you're in luck? Cause up my sleeve I've got a

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brand of Magic Neville fails Mr. Aladdin, sir is that how it goes? Mr. Aladdin, sir? Have a wish or two or three

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that number, write it down. You ain't never had a friend like me. So then we go back to the other ladies, and they're getting glammed up for Phaedra's birthday party.

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What were you gonna say if you actually really listen to that song? I'm not gonna help with the length of this podcast today, but if you do actually listen to that song, it does sort of sound like Portia doing that part. It's like, literally Portia, you listen to it. Okay, go on. Scotland.

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Yeah. Everybody's getting ready for Phaedra's party. They don't really make Scotland look that fun when we go to a cemetery today. They looked at some tartans the other day, which, I mean, I guess that would. That you would think that. You know, you said you thought that that looked super fun, like you wanted to go to a tartan store, but I'm just saying it's not something I see being on the tourism guide, like, whoa, some fun things to do. It's like, there's no theme parks, nothing like that. It's just like a plaid store and a cemetery.

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I literally watch it, and I was like, I think I want to go to Scotland now. I really did. Like, I. I love a graveyard tour. Like, the cemetery Pere Lachaise in Paris was amazing. I just thought it looked moody and cool. I forgot to mention, Ronnie, you were. We were talking before the show about what we did this weekend. I started watching Traders UK Season 4 with the regular people. Loved it.

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Oh, you're gonna love it. Do you like it so far?

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A lot. Of course. And I'm. I'm only two episodes in. I actually stopped myself. I was like, if I don't stop myself, I'm gonna just stay up till four in the morning. Yeah, but Claudia Winkle is Winkleman Winkle.

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Whatever.

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The traitors are laughing at you. I am disgusted when she, like, starts

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to get getting teary. She's like, the traitors are laughing at you. Got it together.

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It's so good. I just love the Traders formula just holds up. But it's so moody and so Scottish. I was like, wow, Scotland's really having a moment in our pop culture right now.

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Yeah, they really are. So people are getting ready for the night and Pinky's like, I'm sick of all this drama. We need to have fun. Let's go party. So now they do and they go to a club named Coco. And Portia tells us it's the hottest club in Scotland. And, you know, dinner was crazy, but we're just going to celebrate Fei. Fei's birthday.

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So let's do it. This looked so fun actually. They were just in a club. Everyone was like partying. I just like, I was like, oh, man. I haven't gone, like gone out and dance hard at like a club in years. And I think my window for doing that is closed. Not because I don't want to do it, because then if I were to do it, I'm like, oh, there's that. There's that strange 47 year old guy just flopping around on the dance floor. But they look like they were having so much fun. And K. Michelle got like, she like got onto the microphone and she became like the MC for the night. And she was like singing and then she was like bringing people up on the stage. Like, this was definitely K. Michelle's ministry. I feel like she seemed so happy. Like that was like, that's what she liked doing was just being on a mic and just like sort of curating the evening and. And the club.

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But at what point do we complain about getting to feel attacked by bringing one person up at a time to sing their own music? No, thank you. That's too much. You know, this is a club. I don't. Why are you making me listen to like 6 Housewives songs in a row? Because first she sang hers and then she brought up someone else and then they brought up. She brought up someone else and they were saying theirs and then. And it's not like they have the karaoke track. So they're singing over the voice on the track, which is, you know, obviously auto tuned. Like every voice is now on radio. So you have them kind of screeching their songs next to the perfectly auto tuned version. And it's just. It's a mind fuck. And I'm at a club. I paid a cover. No, put on regular, you know, put on like regular things I don't have to hear people sing over.

[A]

I would have loved it. First of all, K. Michelle, she has a voice, so she obviously she sounded great. And like this the snippet we heard of her, she was like, you know, so, like, her singing along to her track. That's. I'm all for that. And then we. Well, what happened was we sort of had, like, at the. We had, like, what do you call it? The Decreasing Returns. Because then we have Drew, and Drew is like, Drew can sing. We saw her sing the national anthem. She can sing. But then it's like, it's getting just more and more into, like, we have Drew, then we have Portia, then we have Shamia, and then, know, Portia can sing. She can't sing too well, but she can sing. Shamia, I think, can sing better than Portia. But we just started to get, like, lower and lower, like, professional, like, singer with album, like, record deals, performs at award shows to. Then all the way down to Shamia, like, trying to break out of her husband's Rhode Island H vac, you know.

[B]

Yeah, well, actually, Shamia wasn't last, I don't think. I think that Shamia came late because one of Shamia's moves, when she's trying to be dramatic, is to come really late and then make an entrance. And she did it in the beginning of the season at Portia's party, where Portia was having the couple's party. And then they're like, is she me even coming? Is she me even coming? While I invited Shamia, and then Portia is giving a speech, and in walks Shamia, you know, with. And she's like, I'm gonna. You know, I'm upset with Portia or whatever, you know, trying to get as much drama as she can, which is fine. I mean, it's a Housewives show.

[A]

But it was her look back from season, her first season, when Portia showed up late while Shamia was getting her.

[B]

Yes, you're always getting. You're always getting back for the first thing, right? But Portia just kind of walked down the driveway. She wasn't like, hello. She was like, oh, what's happening? Are you getting a car? She was gifting herself a car. So.

[A]

Yeah.

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And now she's doing it here at this club, and she comes in with friends, and she's, like, dancing as big as possible, and, like, the. The sea of people is parting for her, and everyone's like, jesus, why does she need. You know, why does she need to make such an entrance? And Angela's saying, what is happening? You just said, this girl's mother tried to sleep with your father, and now you're gonna come dance in her face.

[A]

Yeah, I think this is. This Was like, weird. I thought that Shumia came back because she leaves the restaurant, she's crying, they go back to. Well, I thought they went back to the Castle, but I guess who knows where they went back to. They went somewhere where I think almost like, were they staying at a hotel in town? Because before they even went to the club, we saw everyone, like, getting changed, and I was like, wait, did you go back to the Castle? But I think they must have had, like, an overnight in that. In. In a hotel. So they. She goes back, she's crying, and she's telling Kelly, like, you don't have to stay here with me. You don't. It just makes me so sad. But. And Kelly's like, you know, look, we gotta, like, go party. Like, well, come on. Like, we gotta turn up. So they go back, but I think it's just. It's weird to come back in, like, hey, party time, when you've just, like, left in. In like, a blaze of tears. Can you have a blaze of tears? I'm not sure. But she. You know, you left in, like, out of sorts and you were upset, and so to come back, like, all like, party. Almost like you're working at Republic, which I don't know. Did you see the rumors about Southern hospitality, by the way, that were going around this weekend?

[B]

Yeah, a lot of Southern hospitality.

[A]

Love them. May not be back, but there was

[B]

fighting between TJ and Love.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

TJ made a post like, I've always been under someone's hot dog umbrell. And I realized, I don't need that. I can do it alone. And people are like, whoa, is he dissing Leva in this? And then Leva put up a post that was something like, sometimes people are assholes, and I don't care. Let be assholes. This is not a quote. This is just from a basic. And then everyone got on Leva, like, how dare you? Why are you coming for TJ about Na Na Na. She's like, I'm not. Guys, that wasn't even about TJ or Joe. So then people are like, oh, my God, TJ and Joe are both fired from Southern Hospital. And then a rumor came out that they're going to re. Redo Southern hospitality. I guess without Lea.

[A]

That seems crazy. How do you.

[B]

How do you do that unless you change restaurants? I mean, the ratings on that show weren't very good. So maybe they just figured, huh, let's just start with a new place. Let's go to Craig and, you know, Austin's place or whatever. By the way, no, they could do that. By the way, no one said that's just my networking theory.

[A]

That just seems crazy. How do you. How? Well, I guess we'll find out. I didn't mean to turn it. I didn't mean to bring Southern hospitality into this, but it was a rumor that was going around, so I thought I'd share.

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[B]

Brittany.

[A]

Yeah, it's like you want us all to feel like, I don't know why, Like, I am not gonna say to someone, hey, hey, you're crying on vacation. That means you have to stay crying the rest of the night. I, you know, I definitely, like, hey, you know what? Like, go have a fun time. But there's something about entering like that, that I'm just like, it's a weird not acknowledgment of the fact that you left in tears. It's almost like, you should come back. Like, hey, guys, I decided to come back. And then people said, we're so glad you're here. And then you can be like, yay. You know, like, it's just weird to enter in with your. Your hand above your head. Like, woohoo. Shimmy is here. Let's get down.

[B]

You know, that's because in her mind, and what she's trying to convince us is that she's the victim. Like, she didn't start this whole thing. Portia started it with her. She made her leave crying. And now Shimmy is going to come in, like, you can't bother me by being mean to me. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna overcome this. And she's having kind of a hero's moment. But you were the one who started the fight, and you're not the victim. So it comes off as a little crazy. And, you know, everyone's reaction is pretty much the same. They're like, why? What is she doing? And Portia's like, oh, hell no. This lady just talked about my mom. I'm leaving. So she leaves with her glam team and everybody. So they make a big exit, you know?

[A]

Yeah. So. And it's not just her. Cynthia, Angela and Drew and Phaedra also leave with Porsche. They all are just like, we're out. No, this party got lame, basically.

[B]

So Andrew's, like, called, and then Kay sees this. So she's like, and now Portia. Portia's gonna sing her song. Where's Portia? Where is Portia? You're the only person within a mile radius who did not see Portia leave. I know. It's like the Roadrunner, you know, there's like a cloud of dust following her. It was a pretty huge exit. Okay, man.

[A]

Kim Zolciak is just waiting behind the velvet rope to get in the club. Like, I think they're gonna play my song next, but they're going through all the Atlanta songs.

[B]

Who's Brio? Gotta blow for me to get in here.

[A]

So Angela and Drew are out on the sidewalk, and Drew is like. You just walk in, like, what happened? Like, after what happened to someone, and you just called your best friend over over a decade. And Angel's like. Like, nothing's wrong. She's like, I mean, if we haven't been friends for that long, but if I did something that offended you in that moment, I wouldn't come in with that energy. I would just be like, I just don't get it. Like, you know, like, Angel. Like, yeah. Be like, let's talk. So Drew is like, yeah, there are some things that just, like, shouldn't come out of your mouth. Like, we don't talk about mamas. Shamia started this, and you really can't blame P for finishing it.

[B]

So inside, they're asking. The people who remain are asking how Shamiya's feeling. And she's like, well, you know, I mean, last time I was around the group, it was some pretty nasty work. And so I left. And then now I come back and everybody scatters. I just don't get it. Why are they so mean to me? And K, Michelle says, well, I played everybody's song. It's like, yeah, but it was my song they left on.

[A]

Well, because there was no one else. It was the last one. Oh, that they left on. I meant, like, that they left on the. On the speakers. Like, they didn't cut it off. Yeah.

[B]

Gerald is just paying over time to have it played more and more.

[A]

Yes, that is what the one that they all departed during. And it's like, yeah, well, they didn't leave because the song was playing. They left because you were there, and they just didn't want to deal with more. And Portia knows to just extricate herself from the situation, much like you did just before, and you were patting yourself on the back for it. You're like, I just. The best thing for me to do right now is just to leave. Support does the same thing. And she's like, oh, well, now they're leaving because I'm here. It's like she's doing. She's having the exact same response that you had two hours prior.

[B]

Yeah, you're obviously trying to start something again and she's gonna leave. So then Shami is like, oh, gosh, it's just so disappointing. It wasn't my intention to ruin the night, you know, like, what are they? Just part of her litter? I mean, what. What are they in it for the free hair.

[A]

Well, that's not nothing. And also, I was gonna say, as

[B]

a bald person, I'm gonna be in that car too. Like, is there anything you can do?

[A]

Anything at all? Drew will take what she can get. And I have to say that, look. I mean, also, like, it's also rich that she's. No pun intended. That she's saying they're just in for the free hair while she's literally donating, like, a fruit house to Kelly. And. And on top of that, you're the one who got so upset about being called a lap dog, and now you're basically calling all of them lap dogs. You are so, like, I don't know, Shamia.

[B]

Another chapter in the Shamia you are fight. Her whole thing is everybody's calling her a lap dog for Porsche. That's why she got, you know, anti Porsche, and now she's calling everybody a lap dog. Like, come on, at least be. That's my thing with Shamia. At least be original.

[A]

You know, I just want her to stop being so hyper focused on trying to fit in or trying to, like. Like, see, what about me? What about me? I just want her to be herself the way we used to know and love her. Like, I think people. I think it's. It's like, foreign now to look back at the years when she was a friend of. And how, like, people loved Shamia. We loved Shamia. She was great. She would come out and be like, more Shamia, you know, and now it's like, oh, Shamia. You know, someone messaged me. An old queen at the bar messaged me. And, you know, you have to take it with a grain of salt because I don't know who. I don't know anyone. People just say things, but they said, you know, it's crazy to me because I knew Shamia back in the day, and I used to work, like, side by side with her, and she. She always wanted to be popular. But what was crazy is that she actually is popular. And I think I've heard it from a few different people. Like, Shamia is actually quite popular in Atlanta. Like, she. People. Everyone seems to like Shamia, but she seems to not feel it, you know? And it's like, I just want her to stop trying so hard for approval of either the audience or from Portia and just, like, be herself. And then I think we would all come around to loving her again.

[B]

But this year, you know, last year, I think that was a hundred percent true. This year, the problem is she's trying to start Things with people over and over again. It's not really looking for approval. She's trying to start mess, but it's just not landing. You know, like, the whole going to Dallas and getting upset that you didn't get the main house, and then refusing to go in and saying it's too dirty to even go in, and I won't even come to dinner. I'm gonna sit by the pool with cameras and have my own scene about how all of this is so unfair. You know, she's trying to start things that aren't really going anywhere. And Cynthia didn't even give her a big argument. Well, not that Cynthia normally does anyway, but Cynthia didn't give her a huge argument. She was just like Shamia, you know, she's just not getting the reaction she wants from people, because no one even wants to have these big fights with Shamia.

[A]

They're just like, ah.

[B]

Now, first you're trying too hard to get everyone to like you, and now you're trying too hard to get everybody to fight with you. But I think ultimately it's. What you're saying is not. It's the trying to be something, you know, like, that's the thing, to be a better housewife.

[A]

Then it's all tied in. Yeah, Everything you're saying is all tied in, I think, with her need for approval.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think it's like she wants to prove that she is a real housewife. She's not just Portia's friend. And she deserves, like, as much. She deserves this peach as much as anyone else. And so if she gets put into, like, the. Like the. The kitty house, then she feels like, oh, I'm not. I'm not sitting with the adults. I'm at the kids table, you know? And like, no, I. I deserve this space, like. And, like, I think it's all tied in with wanting approval, wanting to fit in, yada, yada, yada. And she, like, when she doesn't feel like she's fitting in, she, like, she lashes out because it's like she's working so hard. And doesn't everyone. Doesn't everyone see. Doesn't everyone appreciate how much work she's putting into it? And aren't I fun? And I'm doing all the right things, guys, you know? Like, that's where. That's. That's what I see in her.

[B]

Yeah, well, that makes sense. So then we go. So they come to the what?

[A]

I'm not. I'm not projecting any of my issues onto Shamia whatsoever, guys.

[B]

No, you're not like that, I don't think. But yeah, I mean that's Shamia's thing is like seeking approval. So then we go and not getting it, you know, that's, that's the follow up. It's always trying and not getting there. So then we go to the castle. They come over to the castle. Shamiya's wearing a crazy long haired coat that's dyed different colors and it's kind of like the shaggy dog hair or like a long haired dog coat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what are those white dogs?

[A]

Yeah, I know which one. Like the one from Labyrinth?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like the shaggy, the shaggy one where they, you can't see their eyes. Yeah.

[B]

Trying to figure out what did you kill to make this coat?

[A]

My friend growing up had. My friend growing up had a dog like that. It was so annoying. Oh God, those dogs. Because it's like, it's like the most doggy of dogs. It's just like, want to play, want to play, want to play, want to play. And it gets all up in your face and knocks over like five glasses from the coffee table in the process.

[B]

Long hair going everywhere.

[A]

So like all sorts of weird kind of like bird like colors on it too. Like a, like an unnatural blue.

[B]

Yes, it's just like blue, red, yellow. I think it's some rich people. I don't know because I don't know. The non rich people are looking at that like, what the hell? Why would you do that? So Phaedra goes into Portia's room to announce very gently, she's like, well, I'm going to the cemetery today. Oh wait, is this. Yeah. She's like, I'm going to the cemetery today and I'm taking Shamia. Portia's like, it's like, well, we are on a TV show where they do force us to do things, but also I want to talk to her about it, you know, and it'll be a cemetery so maybe we can bury it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Portia's like, yeah, I don't want to get buried. So yeah.

[A]

And this is, and this whole situation is very much risen from the dead. And so Portia's saying, she's like, yeah, my mindset was just to move forward and she's just like a snake in the grass. And she was waiting for the perfect moment to trigger me.

[B]

And she's like, we're gonna just match energies at this point, you know, so worried. Don't worry, we're gonna continue these conversations. And Pedro said, well, I don't want my birthday dinner to be this type of foolishness. And she's like, yeah, I probably will be some type of foolishness. Don't have your birthday dinner on camera if you don't want that.

[A]

Okay, so the group that goes to cemetery is Phaedra, Kelly, Shamia and Cynthia. You know, Cynthia seems thrilled to be with Shamia. And they're all gonna go, they're all heading out there and Shamia saying, let me tell you something, if it wasn't for Kelly going, I wouldn't be going because. Because at least she can witness. She can be a witness. Unless they bury her ass too. And Kelly is like, yeah, this is not normal going to a graveyard. This is not where I'd like to meet my next man or husband. I'm like, what happened to Jervis or Jarvis?

[B]

You're dating a man who just bought you thirty thousand dollar teeth. Maybe don't know how many people. Oh yeah, seventy thousand dollar teeth. Don't talk about wanting to on a trip. I mean, geez, respect the dental work at least. Also, why is she wearing a helmet for horse riding?

[A]

I Kelly's choices are like, it begins and ends with the crazy cranberry dye she puts on her dog. So when it comes to like aesthetics, I just don't know if I can Kelly on any front.

[B]

We're going to a cemetery. Get me a horse riding helmet. It's going to start going places in

[A]

a motorcycle helmet just for fun, just to see what people will do. Yeah.

[B]

So they're like, why are we going to a cemetery? And Phaedra's like, oh, a lot of people are buried here. This isn't just a normal cemetery. And they say like who? And she can't answer. She's like, yeah, I can't remember the do I know Scotland?

[A]

Like they reserved a plot for Alan coming. That's the best I can do.

[B]

Famous people don't make a better cemetery. And I said, I say that as someone who goes to Hollywood forever, often for the how the Day of the Dead thing. And I was walking with my friends around it this year and it's so funny the difference in 20 years because I remember going there when I first moved to LA twenty something years ago. And then now we're all older, you know, and just everybody's reaction to it is much different. It's almost worse that everyone's famous because it's like, oh my God, all these people are dead. And then we just look at each other. And one of my friends was like, it just all ends, just all ends, doesn't it? You know, it wasn't as fun as when you're like, you know, young, younger, at least, walking around there, getting high with your friends, giggling like, oh, my God, look at all these big famous dead people. Isn't an older person. You're just like, oh, my God, this is. It's like my parking space in 10 minutes. You know, it's depressing.

[A]

Expiring. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, thanks, everyone, for listening to watching.

[B]

Suddenly you're suddenly a carton of milk.

[A]

That's look.

[B]

That can have eyes to see its own expiration date. It's soothe, you know. So anyway, cemetery is not fun. I mean, take me there when I'm 20 and give me a joint, but don't take in middle age. Just be like, well, have fun. Especially with the guy who leads it. He's depressing as hell. He's like, well, this person was killed from a doornail to the head. A neighbor hated him, and this one was eaten alive by rats in a sewer because he couldn't pay his tax.

[A]

Like, okay, great, that's exciting. So meanwhile, back at the. Back at the castle, Portia is FaceTiming Lauren, her sister. You know, it's like three in the morning, and she's like, oh, gotta wake up for sister duty. But Portia's like, yeah.

[B]

So I've been like, I like chili amount in space.

[A]

And like, I thought like, Shimmy was doing the same thing. And girl, like, why last night when we went to dinner, she starts with like, you know, I hear that you don't want the Laura around me and y', all. I'm like, what are you talking about? What happened? So. So the girls in the group have already told me that she's basically using Polar for clout. And Lauren's like, really? Wow, did we have to talk about this right now? I kind of want to go back to bed, but that's crazy.

[B]

Portia, she's like, it's eight in the morning here, Portia. Can we please move this along? And she's like, yeah, well, you know what? And shimia. Then she says her mom said that my mom wanted to sleep with her dad. It's like, what? Why would she say that? Even if it's true? Possibly. Who knows what mom was doing back? Porsche is like, I don't know. I mean, her daddy's not ever had teeth.

[A]

I love that. No one.

[B]

She's like, past or present, nobody wanted to sleep with that toothless man. Okay?

[A]

Yeah. And Lauren's like, I mean, there's no way I would repeat that in Front of anybody, friends or not, to somebody else. Like, there's a line you don't cross. And there it is in Portia, girl, you crossed it. So back at the. At the cemetery, we're still just, like, going on this tour. And Cynthia is like. Kelly's like, so I have a question about last night. Like, why did you guys all get out of there quicker than free Costco samples last night? And Cynthia's like, I did not get out of there that quick. I actually was on the dance floor enjoying Shamia's song, Never have. There you go, Shamia. I just. I just named the song for America.

[B]

And Shamiya saying, well, at least you greeted me, so thank you. But, you know, I did feel disappointed because, you know, I didn't even want to come out. And. And then I did. I made the effort, and everyone treated me like that. And she's like, and I want to apologize to you for ruining last night's dinner, because it did start out one way. I didn't think it was going to go there, but I did, you know, after taking it there multiple times after, Portia wasn't baited with the first three things I gave her. And I'm sorry for that. And, you know, I just want to give you some context to understanding how things are going and just festering, you know, and how it's glorified.

[A]

And she says, you know, portia made a public post about my mom, and the post went viral, and she was already going through a lot of health stuff, and it just was like, damn, you're talking about my mom. And the opportunity presented itself last night because we were going back and forth and we're both slinging mud, and I'm not making excuses for it. I'm just explaining it in a way where if I were to be excused for my behavior, it would be because of these things. But I'm not making excuses. You know, I said what I said, and then it just went to hell.

[B]

You took it to hell. And also, Portia only made the statement of your mom after she watched you on national TV make a statement about the moms. So it was a response. Again, you started it. So now we go back to Lauren and Portia talking, and Lauren's like, wow, that's really personal shit. And that's not true. And Portia said, yeah, and then you said that my mom tried to sleep with your dad when your mama actually did fuck her husband's brother. And she's like, whoa, those are two nuclear bombs. You know, like, I'm not Gonna throw a nuclear bomb at you because you're gonna throw one at me, and now we're both dead. She's like, that's. That's how nuclear bombs. That's how nuclear bombs work.

[A]

That's. That's.

[B]

That's why we're all afraid of them.

[A]

Yeah. Lauren is basically like, look, just don't play into it, okay? Because you're just gonna go back and forth. Don't play into it. And Portia goes. The higher road is bought beyond me at this point. So then Phaedra is back in the car. Phaedra's like, you know, children, mamas, certain stuff like that is very triggering to people, and I just don't know if it's appropriate. The group knows about this kind of stuff. And she basically said, pedro says, you know, like, they've been the best of friends. And I don't know what happened, but. But Shami has definitely been stirring the pot. You know, she's. You know, Shamia told. Said that. That, you know, Pinky. You told Pinky that I said that she ate meat. Told Angela her daughter said something inappropriate. Angela's daughter. You know, you're just keeping up friction in the group.

[B]

And Shamiya's like, you know, I feel like in this group, people do things to me and nobody says anything. But then when I get my lick back or do the same thing, then it's like, oh, no, Shamia, you went too far. But Shamia, you all, you know, you usually start it. You know, I mean, the stuff with Angela and the going low in the restaurant. Angela, well, Angela's no innocent either, so I don't want to be like, oh, Angela's so innocent. But you're making it sound like someone straight up attacked you when, I don't know. I can't.

[A]

Maybe back game. Maybe you need to work on the lick back game. Because, like, if no one says anything, if someone does something to you and everyone stays quiet and then you get your lick back, everyone's like, shamia, too far. Maybe you're not doing it right, because there is an art to a lick back. And if your timing is wrong or you come on too hard or not, not the right way, it's gonna land wrong. So maybe you need to think about how you are get having your moments, because obviously they're not working for your castmates or the audience.

[B]

And Cynthia's saying, well, look, I'll tell you this.

[A]

If.

[B]

If Portia had been the one to bring up the moms, I would have defended you. And she goes but she did. And nobody called me and said, are you okay? And she goes, no. I'm saying at the table. She goes, no. Well, I'm talking about the world. She didn't bring it up first to the world. You did. This is just so typical. You brought it up on TV first. Unless I'm remembering it wrong, but I remember it with Shamia bringing it up on TV and then Portia responding. After she saw it, she responded on Instagram.

[A]

I don't remember. Quite frankly, I actually don't remember. Another point I just want to say is that Shamia could also work on being funnier with her lickbacks. Because at least like Portia, when she gets her lickbacks in, she's funny about it. And then we're like, that was so petty, but we're chuckling, but sure, me out. It's just kind of like, oh, that was just mean.

[B]

And it's kind of everybody she goes up against because Angela. Angela went low and she made up all kinds of like, you. Did you, George, did you. Your neighbor, George. You know, Angela comes up with all this crazy. You can't really stand up for Angela. But she's funny, you know, she's really funny. And so the audience forgives a lot, I think.

[A]

But it's like commenting on the Internet. It's like Internet comments, you know, like if someone posts something and someone writes something shady about it underneath in the comments, you know, then we all laugh. We're like, oh, God, that was so wrong. That's. That's so wrong. But, like, it was hilarious. But then if someone writes like, well, you're stupid and fat and ugly, then everyone's like, hey, that was like, mean. What. What's wrong with you? You know, it's like you have to, like, know how to deliver your shade. And if you just. If you're just clunky with it and you're. Especially if you're like, mean forward and not comedy forward, then you're just not gonna. You're not gonna win any fans.

[B]

Yeah. So then Shimmy is saying, well, I'm just trying to tell you what you're not seeing. And no one's buying it.

[A]

It.

[B]

Okay, so then we go back to portion Lauren, and she's like. I mean, all I can think is that she's destiny swapping. Destiny swapping, not swapping. And which is basically trying to steal all of her. All of her success and kind of copycatting her.

[A]

Yeah. So. But it doesn't, doesn't. It doesn't seem to be working right Now. So now. Now it's time for the spa ladies to go to the spa. So that's Portia, Pinky K, Michelle, Angela, and Drew. So they're on this castle in this castle. So there's a spa in this castle. So they go, they get dressed for the spa and they head out, but they have to go outside. And then they're just like, wandering on the property until they finally come to, like, an above ground hot tub. And there was like some other, like, rinky dink kind of spa feature. And they're like, yeah, okay. They, like, touch the water and they're like, okay, we did the spa day. We're go back inside now. Yeah.

[B]

This cannot be peppered by Portia.

[A]

What?

[B]

During. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. So Portia's like, yeah, this was not my best idea. Oh, well, next time we'll go to the Four Seasons. So now back at the cemetery, we meet the tour guide and we see this. Well, Phaedra is saying she loves death, basically. And so we see a flashback to Phaedra talking to a couple about their dead dog. And this cemetery is very famous because of Harry Potter. And so Jamie, the tour guide, is telling them just every depressing story there is. Really?

[A]

Yeah. He talks about how William Burke and William Hare were two of Scotland's first recorded serial killers. And they killed a lot of people, I guess.

[B]

I guess.

[A]

Were they buried here or people that were killed by them buried here? Either way, he brings them up, you know, Burke and Hare. And then we also get a some interesting piece of flavor from Shelby the note taker, who said, if you have ever heard of burking as a cause of death, that is when someone sits on your chest or something heavy is placed on your chest and you suffocate. It's how Burke and Hare killed their victims. So it wouldn't be obvious that what had killed them and it wouldn't be suspicious death. And they could easily sell the bodies to the medical schools. I read a whole book about them. Wow. More interesting than any scene that Shami has had this episode is this little anecdote.

[B]

Chest sitting. So everybody's kind of horrified. They're like, wow, this isn't fun. You know, and then we see, like a little dog statue, and he's like, this dog loved his owner so much that he sat by the grave after the owner died for 16 years straight. So he made a statue of him, and he's this dog. I mean, even in statue form, this cute little dog is just like, treat, treat. You can eat. Do you have a tree treat? Where's my treat?

[A]

Where's my treat, please? So, yeah, they're just going around the cemetery for a while, looking at things, and it's very adorable, that dog statue. Meanwhile, the other ladies are back at the house, and they're sitting around a fire. Pinky saying how fun the night was and everything. And Jude's thanking K for, like, you know, showing some love with her music. And K. Michelle's like, well, you're welcome. I wish you the best in music. And I know it's a difficult thing, you know, getting people to listen to your music, Drew. But, you know, I poke a little fun, but that's just what I do. I decide to punch down to the people who have no shot at actually having a real record career.

[B]

Oh, you do it for fun. Well, it's not fun for me. It's like, oh, well, you know, you. And I start. I know I have my issues with Drew, but I just. I also felt like it just wasn't right. I don't live in hate. I do not live in height.

[A]

No, Just paranoia. So Pinky is like, well, I know you guys all started off on a rocky foot, but since we had our threesome, okay, like, for real, I'm happy that you are all. You're both, like, engaging with each other, and, like, to me, that feels good. So I just want to say. I see it. Okay, look, we are. Listen, Port, we were singing along with your song at the club last night. Portia wasn't that nice. And she's like, I know so. And she said, but. But you, like, you took the whole club with you. Like, what was going on with that? Like, why did you leave?

[B]

And she's saying, listen, that dinner was unpredictable, and I'm not going to be around that. No. And she's saying, I was there when Shamia gave birth to her daughter. She was there when I gave birth to my daughter, and this just came out of nowhere. And I've let my guard down with her, and she's still going to try to trigger me. And so Drew's like, well, what does everybody else think about Shamia? You guys are just getting to know her. And Pinky says that she's seen some changes for sure in Shamia. And for the next. She was.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And she was asking her at the airport, are you ready for the trip? And Shamia was like, well, I'm ready for whatever's ready for me. And Portia's like, what even is that energy? What is it? And K Michelle's like, well, I'm just shocked because, you know, the conversations I've had with her have been like, I'm hurt, you know, even to tears, and about her friendship with you. And Pinky's nodding and Portia's saying, well, when I tell you, I'm chilling, like, I was there, so if you wanted to be back or even start that leg, we were on our way, so why do this?

[A]

And K. Michelle is suspicious. She tells us Portia's lying. We've talked several times. You never said that you were going to try to make a mess with Shamia. Save that Crocker for somebody else, not me.

[B]

But she told Shamia she was. And she hasn't been starting with Shamia, so.

[A]

She hasn't been. But she hasn't been. She has not been actively trying to be friends with Shamia. She's just been coexisting. She's like, I'm not gonna get clocked for. For being mean to Shimmy. I'm not gonna give her that, you know?

[B]

Well, isn't that. I mean, when you tell someone, we'll start over and start fresh and just move forward. I don't. Has Shamia been calling her for lunches that she's not been showing up to or something? Because I think showing up and being nice to somebody is starting over.

[A]

I mean, I think that Porsche is starting all the way over. Like, oh, we just met for the first time. I'm not gonna engage with you. Like, I just met you on the street. You're a fan. I think. I think what it is is that Portia is trying to make it sound like she's. She's put effort into rebuilding this friendship. And like, k. Michelle's like, you. Yeah. You have not put any effort into this. You've still been cold around Shamia. Like, she. I mean, Portia's still. She's, I think, cordial to Shamia, but she's. I would never say that there's any warmth with Shamia this season. I mean, Portia also likes to. She get. She gives herself a very complimentary revisionist history a lot of the times, and I get that. And I still think that Shamia was the. Was the one at fault for all this. So don't get me. Don't. Don't think I'm defending Shamia. But also, Portia is one to be like. And I've been such a good friend. I've been so nice to her. It's like, maybe not so nice.

[B]

So they're asking Portia how she feels and she's just disappointed and they could have gotten it back together. She's like, we could have, we, we could have gotten everything back together here in Switzerland. Yeah, it's not Switzerland. Where the are we? Whatever the Ikea, whatever the IKEA country we're in. No, that's still. It's the wrong one.

[A]

Yeah. Portion Scotland just don't mix. That's what we learned the last season of the Traders. Meanwhile, the back at the cemetery, they're still walking around. And now here's something fun for your tour. Welcome to the world's first concentration camp. It's like, oh great.

[B]

Oh my God. Jeez, man. And then he's talking about how there was an exorcism in this place because such strange stuff was happening and the exorcist died a week after doing the exorcism. So they're like, why, why are we here? What the hell? And then Kelly's making the like haha. I already did an exorcism with my ex husband.

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[B]

She's selling features.

[A]

Crying on behalf of your mom.

[B]

Flirted with my dad. It's not really talking about your feelings,

[A]

but, okay, sometimes, like, it's good to be truthful, but it's also good to have timing. And, like, that was not the time to be truthful with Portia.

[B]

So they have the same conversation they've had a million times. And meanwhile, this. This little room that they're going into, the guy is really trying to sell it, the cemetery guy, because, you know, he's a tour guide, basically. And so he's like, go into this room. Do you feel it?

[A]

It's dark.

[B]

Every people, when they walk in here, they say, oh, it feels dark.

[A]

It feels.

[B]

Do you feel any of that? And Pedro's like, it smells. Smells funny in here. But otherwise, not really, no.

[A]

Come on. Come on in here to have a spooky moment. Hindi world's first concentration camp. I'm like, sir, this is like. Like, I understand. Like, ooh, haunted. Someone, an old lady, died here because she was banished there by her sisters. And she swear of revenge and she died in a fire. Now they say she haunts the hall. It's like, okay, funny haunted moment. But here it's like. Like, this was the world's first concentration camp. I'm like, feels a little bit dark to have a silly haunted moment, you know? Yeah, make this lighter.

[B]

Also, like, on cemetery tours, I don't want all the dark stuff. I mean, I feel like humans are always walking around like, oh, my God, ghost. I'm so scared of the ghost. You're going to be one. You're going to be one. Some sooner than others. But we're all going to be a ghost, so. So in that case, can you just show me to the slab where the person was, like, really happy, loved ice cream, and died watching Murder, She Wrote reruns. Like, that's who I want to hang out with. You know what I mean? I don't want to hang out with the. The serial killer who sat on somebody's chest. That's not the show me show me better friends.

[A]

I know. Although you do have to. You do have to be impressed with a serial killer. That was like, I'm going to. I'm gonna kill you in the laziest way possible. I'm just gonna sit on your chest.

[B]

If I was going to be a serial killer, that would probably be my way. Like, at least you get to sit. You know, it takes all the work out of it.

[A]

What. What happened to sensual ghosts? Like, you know, I think there's only been one sensual ghost in the history of, like, mainstream entertainment, of course, which was Patrick Swayze and ghost. Like, whatever happened to ghosts that were like, let's have a sensual pottery moment. Like, an arts and craft slash erotic ghosts. Like, that would be much more fun than, like, oh, I'm mad at you. I'm gonna scare you. Like, why did you.

[B]

This ghost trick Demi Moore into making out with him with her? And then it found. She found out it was Whoopi Goldberg at the end of the makeup. That's a ghost.

[A]

I mean, honestly, Patrick Swayze's ghost really had it figured out. It's like, well, I'm in the afterlife now, so I can do arts and crafts with a hot lady.

[B]

I've got. I've got time. I've got nothing but time. So it's time to take up pottery. You know, he like notes. He's like, me. Knows three chords on the piano. He's like, yes. So then we go to. They get in the car, they're going home, and they're talking about. What are they talking about? How Phaedra came to life. And Cynthia's saying, wow, you really latched on to that man. I mean, was that man married or not? Child? And Kelly's saying, well, he said his wife was dead to him. I don't know about that. And shimmy is like, no. He said he's going through a divorce. You know, so they're all laughing, and then, I don't know, they're just making small talk now. They're talking about Phaedra's birthday and how do you feel about your next spin around the sun, Phaedra? And she's like, well, you know, I. I just really need to sit down and do my planning. But with children, there's so much going on. So they're talking about co parenting with Apollo.

[A]

And Phaedra says that she's only had two boyfriends since she got divorced from Apollo. And Cynthia's like. And Cynthia's like, you know, I see it all. The most sexy wigs, sexy Tight clothes, somebody in between them thighs. We just don't know who it is. So then Portia calls Phaedra and just, like, says they're coming home. It's a bit of a slow episode. What can I say?

[B]

Yeah. Portia was supposed to get warning that they were on their way back, but she didn't get warning because now everything

[A]

in a room, they're hanging. Portia's brought the women into the room where the dinner is going to be. It's like a library. Library. And that's where Phaedra's dinner is going to be tonight. And so it's a surprise. They have to run out of there in case Phaedra catches them and their surprise is ruined. Library surprise. Yeah.

[B]

So now they go get dressed up again. There's a lot of dressing up for not doing a whole lot.

[A]

They do have a lot of costume changes in 24 hours.

[B]

They get dressed, and Cynthia and Drew are catching up on their days. And Cynthia is saying, yeah, we talked about last night. Shamia says she wasn't. Reasons she didn't feel supported. And K. Michelle's like, you know, that pulls on a heartstring because I don't want anyone to feel like they're being bullied or like they're on the island alone.

[A]

That's her. That's her whole thing, because that's how she often feels. So she doesn't want.

[B]

Yeah, but she's also the one who is, like, leaving and then blaring the national anthem out the window and like that, which she made up with Drew earlier. But. But it's just you. You see such different things from K. Michelle, but then she's always the one to turn around and be like, I just hate bullying. I just hate it.

[A]

Yeah, well, everyone always is. Takes a very. Just on these shows in general, they often take a very sanctimonious stance on many different topics, and then they violate them.

[B]

Sounds familiar. Sounds like me. Sounds like, wow, doing this show right here that we're doing right now. So this. This episode is basically talking about the last episode, most of it. So then everybody's really tense. Everybody's ooing and awing over the outfits, and the outfits are really, really, really formal to be. I mean, lots of beating.

[A]

Well, because they're wearing.

[B]

Have dinner in the library.

[A]

Well, yeah, they're wearing the sashes that they got from the. From the tartan store. And so they all have their sashes, although some of them are not wearing sashes. I don't think. Actually, Phaedra was wearing her sash. I was like, what? You. It was your idea. Why aren't you wearing it? She's definitely giving kind of like a Dolly Parton look. Phaedra. And so they go and they sit down at this formal dinner, and Phaedra starts talking to Cynthia, saying, like, you know, wow, we started in 2009. It's been a crazy ride, which is crazy that they. I forgot that they started as early as 2009. I thought they were, like, 2011, but still, that is 17 years that they've been, like, on or around this show. That's a long. That's such a long time. Like, that's crazy. 17 years. And Cynthia's like, well, I think we started this journey together, and I always felt a bond with you. Every time I eat a pickle, I imagine you eating a pickle with Apollo, taking photos of it. So although we. We are somewhat of a slow burn, I love where we are today, and I respect your resilience and. And I've seen you go through a lot, and I literally just smile watching you soar because you make it look so good. Happy birthday.

[B]

Yeah, she does the speech. You know, it's just. It's your birthday, so now we're gonna give speeches. And I was like, no, no, no. I hate where everybody has to give a speech. So then it goes to Portia, and she's like, so now Portia will speak. And then everyone laughs except Shamia. She's like. So she starts giving a speech about the memories, and, you know, she can always count on Phaedra. And there's times where she's needed to call someone and can't call anyone else. You've just been such a lovely friend, and Shami is like, oh, you're best friends now. Phaedra wasn't even at your wedding. What's happening here? She didn't say best friends. She said, you've been such a lovely friend, and you've just been. You've been wonderful.

[A]

When I have an issue, there's no one in the world, and definitely not at this table, that I've ever been able to call. And I love that I've always, always been able to call you and only you, a sister. And, yes, you almost got me fired from the show because you had me accuse Candy of terrible things. But that's just the things that best

[B]

friends do for each other.

[A]

And no one else at this table would understand that whatsoever, because I've never been a better friend to anyone at this table than you, Phaedra. And she's sitting there, like, white knuckling it, like.

[B]

And Kelly says, this is very calculated. If you look on social media, you don't see them hanging out with each other. I mean, they just don't. So then where it's really real, that's where, you know things are real on Instagram, guys.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's where we've come in this world where people are like, oh, really? You're so fake. I don't even see you guys on Instagram being real with each other. So ground's like, one of the fakest places in the world. Hilarious.

[A]

I know. It's just not. It's all purely curated. I mean, do we see much of her hanging out with people on Instagram? I just feel like it's just. Just. I'm looking at Portia and Instagram and just like, all photos of her. Maybe Pilar, maybe Sway, but it's. This is not an Instagram where I'm like, oh, wow. I'm getting an insight into all the people that she hangs out with.

[B]

Yeah, it's just like a corporate machine at this point. Phaedra's crying because the speech was so beautiful. And Portia gives her a gift and it's a proclamation.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

She's like, this is an efficient, official Highland title, Lady of the Glenn, Lady Phaedra Parks. And she's like, wow, I'm officially Lady of the Glenn. And Shimmy is like, what is that? What's lady of the Glen? Can I Google that? Is it going to come up? Is her name going to come up and say lady of the Gland? I'm Googling it.

[A]

This is like when someone names a star after, like, gets an official. Like, you're. Yes. This star is now called, like, Nova Ronnie Karam or something. And it's like, like, first of all, one of a trillion stars. And second of all, like, what? Like this. What legitimacy does this claim have beyond the corporation that someone. Like this little business that someone found online that, like, issues these certificates?

[B]

I'll take it.

[A]

That about to say, that being said, as someone who went to a scone making class in London and received a little piece of cardboard afterwards that said, I am a master Sconesman. Just. All I've got to say is, you better watch out. You're talking to. Because I'm a master Sconesman.

[B]

Don't forget, we are also fathers.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

To a. Not a dolphin. A dolphin. A penguin.

[A]

No, a penguin.

[B]

A penguin.

[A]

Because that was when Sheena, Sheen and Adam had adopted a penguin on Vanderpump. Rules. And it was a big issue for them. I even got him a penguin. And so then someone adopted a penguin in our name. Yeah.

[B]

And so we have our own penguin out there somewhere. And, I mean, that's very meaningful to me. I have the gift certificate. I think it's in Texas in a box somewhere. But I kept that. I'm the father with penguin, damn it. It.

[A]

That penguin is our child, and we care for it so much, we won't even reveal its name, which we definitely remember its name. And. But we. For its privacy and the privacy of its friends and family, we won't say its name. That we definitely remember.

[B]

Amber Marie Parks Malada. Oh. So, yeah, I mean, I'll take it. So then Cynthia's like, wow, if I knew I could just give Phaedra a plaque for a birthday, I would have saved some money.

[A]

By the way, we also know that there's only one lady of the Glen on Bravo, and her name is Kyle Richards. Okay. Glenn, the party planner.

[B]

Oh, think about it.

[A]

It's a thinker, guys.

[B]

So then they're talking about, has anybody here almost died? And Pinky's like, I did a couple of times. Oh, okay. And okay. Michelle's like, yeah. I mean, I feel like it's a horrible thing. Like, when I went through those surgeries, and then, you know, them saying, my mom. We don't know. And then you have to see your mom crying. Which of these. I mean, it was sad. But she k. Michelle is really hammering home her butt storyline this year.

[A]

She really is a lot of butt

[B]

drama that she's got. So she talks about that and cries about it and stuff.

[A]

Stuff.

[B]

And how it was sad seeing your family gathered around you. And then she's like, you know, like, I'm just scared of death. I'm scared of it. And Phaedra says, that's normal. You know, most people aren't as comfortable as I am. That weird with death thing. Let me tell you what makes death easier.

[A]

Profit.

[B]

Profit Lot.

[A]

So then Drew, that Drew gets emotional because her dad passed, and so she starts getting emotional. Angela's getting emotional because her mom just passed fast. So then. So Drew leaves, and Portia goes after her and Angela. There's this weird cut where, like, Angela went away from the table, and then Drew went away from the table, and then Portia ran after Drew, but Angela came back to the table. And I don't think I saw Angela come back to the table, because then all of a sudden, she was back to the table. I was like, wait a second. There's a continuity issue here. And I got caught up on, like, when did Angela come back to the table? This is how I watch these shows, everyone. That's what I'm trying to say.

[B]

Maybe she got up from the table and saw that the cameras were only Portia and Drew.

[A]

So she was like, okay, I'll be back.

[B]

I guess I'll be back at the table. Thanks, guys. Thanks for the support.

[A]

So Portia runs off after Drew, and then Shamia says, k. Can I just say this, though? Like, last night was a rough night. Right? We can all agree. And, you know, I apologize to you, Phaedra, today. And I hate to make people feel like they've got to choose or pick a side because that's not what it's about. I just.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

Well, they're like, well, what. What made you say something to Portia? She's like, well, this has just been festering in me for. For a long time, and if you want to take my side, I'll tell you about it, but if not, I won't. But anyway, don't. You don't have to take sides. You don't have to take sides. So Binky's like, okay, Shamia is like a professional apologizer. I mean, does she need to apologize? I think, like, it's a little deeper than an apologize. Okay. Because you meant what you said. It wasn't like this. Like, and I don't want. I don't want to see, like, a YouTube apology after this because I love you down, but don't do this.

[B]

Yeah. So then we see Drew and Portia crying and Portia supporting her while she cries. Then we come back, and Shamiya's like, now, do I regret, you know, the timing and where it happened and how it happened? Sure, sure. And I apologize to you even in front of, I guess, who's left here at the group. Shamia posted an Instagram before this episode aired. Like. Like, sometimes apologies aren't the easiest thing, but it's important to give the apology and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I came thinking, oh, she's gonna apologize. Like, she's gonna try and make things right with Portia. No, she waited for Portia to leave the table and then apologized to random other people kind of, but not really about anything, just for the timing of it.

[A]

Yeah. And the thing that they're, like, pushing in the second half of the season is, like, something's going on with the Shamia. What's wrong with Shamia? There's something deeper and happening. So Kelly's like, Stop apologizing to all these people. You've apologized 50,000 times. Who the cares. Stand on business, whatever. And then she, like, lifts her legs up in the air. She's like, oh, stand all ten toes down. She lifts her legs up and, like, shows her butt. And the producer's like, I can see her crack. She's like, oh, who cares? Everybody's seen it before.

[B]

Yeah. Comes back to the table, and she's like, I thought I was gonna come back to some laughter. Did you guys change the subject? And they're like, oh, no. We were talking about last night. And she goes, oh, okay. Well, Drew's okay. She was just having a moment, you know, thinking about her dad. So how's the food? And Pinky's like, yeah, we were talking about last night. And then you walked in on Shamia. It's like. And Shamia says, well, I mean, you know, Phaedra, I'm just happy that we're able to celebrate you. At the end of the day. You get nothing for nothing then.

[A]

I just am. I'm so sorry that there have been so many distractions in celebrating you the past few days. Distractions that I brought on because I started fights. So anyway, then some Scottish dancers come out, and then they're dancing, doing traditional Scottish dancing. And then the women start dancing, too.

[B]

And then there's an accordion. No, no. A cemetery and an accordion. No. What the. Who planned this birthday? So then it ends and the trip ends, and Phaedra talks about, you know, how now she's Lady Phaedra and it was all worth it. It. And Porsche rates the Scotland trip a 10 out of 10, and then she's like, well, maybe a nine out of 10. Porsche.

[A]

What?

[B]

Take everything outside of the fighting. Did you see the hot tub?

[A]

Yeah. I was about to say it was. I feel like this was, like a six or seven out of ten trip. Like, it was nice. It didn't seem like. It wasn't, like, the most exciting Real Housewives trip we've had. They didn't seem to do anything terribly interesting. They had, like, a pleasant time, a very nice time. The fighting wasn't. There was one really big, bad fight, which was a. That was a really good one, too, to watch. But, like, I feel like it was, like, a six as an attendee of the trip and a six as a viewer of the trip. I give it.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's rating it pretty highly. I mean, ultimately, we're still arguing over people's moms from last year. It's like a fail mom daycare fight. I did love the upping it to the mom flirted the moment.

[A]

That was great.

[B]

I mean, it was funny.

[A]

That was the old, like, generational, you know.

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah. Okay.

[A]

Just didn't go anywhere from there. I think that. I think the Texas trip was much better. That was much more entertaining to watch. But whatever, it's fine. It was still. It's sort of funny because I. I watched the episode and I enjoyed it and nothing was really happening, but I was sort of just chuckling along at, like, the light shade made. But, like, in terms of recapping, I was like, nothing really happened this episode, huh? I just went to the cemetery, went to a spa, a quote unquote spa. And then they had dinner. Like, it was really. It was a pretty. There was. There was nothing here. There was nothing here really to recap, but it was pleasant to watch. I guess it's one of the rare times where I'm like, nothing happened. And yet I'm really enjoying this season. And they've had a few of these episodes lately where nothing has happened. But I think the casting is just so strong this season that I'm, I'm. I'm okay, if that makes sense.

[B]

I'm bored. But I've enjoyed it when it's gotten, you know, when it's gotten really good and fun, I enjoy it. I just think they have a lot of. A lot of Ling. And I don't. You. I don't know where you go.

[A]

What episodes need to be tighter. Little, little bit tighter. It's, it's just, it's clearly, clearly stretching content.

[B]

Yeah, he's in order. Could be tighter too. Like, I think shorter. You know, don't, don't, don't stretch it on if you don't have anything. But, you know, overall love Atlanta still. So let's just Peaks and Valley Skies, like every relationship. So we will talk to you next time. Thanks so much for being here. We'll be back every day. And also, just so everybody knows, Real Housewives of London is coming to Bravo this week. It starts Tuesday, so watch that. We will be recapping it. We only recap the first episode when it originally came out last year and died laughing. So I'm really excited for that one. So join us for that one too this week.

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Yes, absolutely. Bye, everyone. Catch you on the next one.

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