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Welcome to Watch what happens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we'd love to talk about. Or sometimes we just head over to HBO because this is also Winter is crappening. We are here to talk House of the Dragon. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me here for this penultimate recap of season three of House the Dragon, it's Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
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Hi. Good. How's everything going over there?
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It is, it's great. It's great. Loved this episode of House the Dragon. I'm actually really loving this whole season. I spoke to a friend last night and I was like, oh my God. Did you watch, did you watch this week's episode? He's like, I'm very far behind. And he's like, he's like, I really don't like the season. I was like, what? He's like, oh, I don't like this. Like, you know, Raniera's like know dealing with rats and what to do. I was like, that's fair. You know, they've kind of like Ray Ray suck. You know, they, they've. Poor Ray Ray. She's just like descending into madness and she's like really bad at being a queen. And it sort of feels like all our hopes and dreams that we pinned on the first two seasons are falling apart. But the season overall is awesome. I say it's like a, it's like a 100% like a totally different show or like a. I don't think I've actually ever seen a show that was so bad its first Season, and so, like, fine and second season become, to me so good in its third season. What are you thinking these days?
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Well, I've always loved this show. I've. You know, as far as the Ray Ray stuff, I love that your friend's complaint was, like, pest control. I think that's the best complaint that I've heard about this season so far. Is like, the past. It's the rats. That's what's doing it. Ray Ray. I could use less, like, constant tears in her eyes for every sentence, you know, But I think that's just how she rolls. And also, I noticed she does this really sharp inhale thing before she says every sentence. And now that I've noticed it, it doesn't leave me alone. She'll be like, helena, you know, now you're gonna notice it.
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I'm gonna see it.
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For every little thing, she'll be like, I see it. And where's Darren? You know, she waits. It's like she holds her breath, and then right before she speaks, does a. Yeah, but I still. I still love my Ray Ray. The thing about Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon is everybody wants to be in charge, and then the second they're in charge, it's a cluster because nobody knows what they're even supposed to be doing.
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So, yeah, that's true.
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I mean, you need training of some kind. And the last king was a child, and then the king before that didn't really just want to be in war, so it was peaceful.
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You know, I mean, I think that what's hard is that Ray Ray, they built this character who has kind of, like, a moral compass and cares about people and intrinsically cares about those who have, you know, who might be a little bit more powerless. And she's willing to give chances to people. She's willing to be compassionate, and that's why we root for her versus the various Hightower, you know, schmuck that come and go. And then this season, she sort of becomes queen, and then she's just a little passive. And, you know, I understand when you have, like, great power, you question what you have to do and everything, but, like, there's. There's really, like, a sense of, like, what happened to that character that, you know, that was. We had our first two seasons, it's like, to me, it's actually quite. Not quite enough to say, oh, well, the throne corrupts. Power corrupts. I'm like, yeah, but, like, we didn't even see her try to do the right thing. Like, the only time she Tried to do the right thing is like in episode two one or two, when she went out to, like, a cart with Missouri and, like, handed out bread to. To the poppers. And then ever since then, she's just like, what should I do? And then it's like Damon saying one thing. Missouri is saying one thing. I mean, I think if anything, if anyone is a corrupting force, it's actually Damon. I feel like everything that he's pushed for has been, like, not helpful at
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all, really, because he's had all the best ideas. They don't do them, and then they're fucked because they don't listen to Damon in the first place. So I feel like Damon, maybe they should listen to Damon more. I think that it's just like, of course, Damon's answer is, usually burn everything down. You know, But.
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Well, but like the. The first episode or two, you have her have this. You know, she feeds the rats to the wealthy people. She's out there feeding the poor and. And, like, that's what the people want and need and seem like, oh, she's going to be a good queen of the people. And then she just, like, stops. And then suddenly she cares about the fact that there's like, you know, bastards, you know, on. On the dragons, there's common folk. I mean, Ul kind of put that into her head. It's like, that's graffiti out that. But, like, I don't understand how she made a pivot from like, burn the rich or eat the rich to just like. I can't have people thinking that we're like, you know, we have regulars on our dragons. It's like, I don't know. Makes me sad.
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Yeah, well, look, to be fair to her, she has no budget at all and everything requires money, so she can't really do anything because they stole that Lannister has her gold. So it's like, well, how do you feed the people? I don't. I don't have any money. Okay, well, how do we go to war? I don't know. I don't have any money. Well, how do we get cops? I don't know. We don't. We literally have no money. Like, what do you want me. People. What do you want me to do? People? But, I mean, I see what you're saying. Look, we're rooting for Rhaenyra the whole time. But that's the trick on Game of Thrones. You shouldn't. Because everybody fucks up. It's always a cluster. So what are you gonna do? At this point, I would rather her be evil and Allison, too. Because if you look at the things that Allison does on paper, they're horrible. Like, Allison has been a monster. Like, she's trying to murder her own child in this very episode. So she's a monster. But the actor who plays her, such a good actor, and you have kind of compassion for Allison and I. I would almost like them both to be more evil instead of this, like, oh, we're best friends from childhood, and ultimately that's what matters. Maybe if that happened at the end or something while they're both on their deathbeds. Okay. But I kind of want, like, Dynasty, but in the Medieval times, you know, I want, like, bitchy and evil and manipulating and all of that. I want, like, good Game of Thrones villains slash heroes.
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Yeah.
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And they're. They're trying, I think, too hard to just give us hero heroes. And it's like, I'm bored.
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You want Cersei? You want Cersei? Just say it. Cersei was. Gave us that kind of, like, campy, gay villainess that you root for because she's so evil. And Allison's. I mean, Allison, I kind of, like, in her own weird way, like, I thought she was a little milquetoast for the first two seasons, but now she's just kind of this exasperated. Like, I'm just trying the best that I can do to get us out of this castle. Okay. That's all I want is to some peace away from all this. Okay. I guess I'll try to kill my son, I guess, if that's what it takes. You know, she's just like, oh, my God. It's one thing after another. I also was going to say something else that I totally forgot about. I don't know what it was, but. But I do. I do agree that there's, like, there is a camp value that's kind of missing in this show that Game of Thrones had. And I would. I. I would like, if they could lean into that a little bit more. I don't remember what my other point was. It was probably a very salient point. Oh, you know what's weird is I find myself rooting for Aegon, this. This guy who is so obnoxious for so long on this show, and then he's just, you know, wandering through the woods and just, like, reduced down to nothing. And, of course, this is a big episode for him, but I found that I'm even, like, rooting for him. Even before the big twist at the end of this episode, I was like,
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no, yeah, they're manipulating you done is working, you see, Because I was also thinking it's like a real movies or any show where it's like, oh, this guy's such a cat. And he's such an. And this and that. And then we break him down all the way to the bottom. And then we see him become a real person when he has to live around some pores for a while and has to, you know, his. It's his arc and I get it, but he's still a little asshole. I don't care how that dragon even come back to life. I need a witch praying over the dragon or something just to have the dragon wake up.
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Well, maybe when Alice somehow resuscitates Aemond because he. They already show him next week being alive and well, maybe it's like some sort of white walker thing or thingamabobber that then like, also resuscitates the dragon, like, as a side effect. I'm not sure. But what I will say is that when I was watching this and I was thinking about this, like, oh, God, Ray Ray is like, really being kind of obnoxious this season. And Aegon's good. I was like. And I. I literally had the instinct of like, wow, she's getting a bad edit this season. I was like, this is Real Housewives. You know, you could have someone who is like the center of the show. She is the hero. And then, you know, season four, season five, bad edit, and now suddenly a major villain. Look at Julia Lemova on Miami. Look at Heather Gay actually descending. Heather Gay has the total Queen Raniera arc, which is that now, like, a lot of people really don't like Heather Gay because she's gotten too full of herself or whatever. She's gone to the dark side. Whereas you find other people who were like, just the worst. And then everyone's like, oh, they're back. It's like Camille Grammer that's like, Aegon is Camille Grammer who was announced on US magazine in like, 2009 as like, the most hated person on television. And then like a season or two later, we're like, we love Camille, you know? So, like, the parallels between these two franchises continue.
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Yeah, well, I need more season three or four Housewives where they're finally just comfortable and they realize that everyone around them is always trying to get them and they're going to try and get them first. Like, I want Ray Ray to call reality blurred or whatever. Like, what's that? Reality blurred's not a gossip blog. Sorry.
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It's a reality Blur website.
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But what am I trying to say?
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Blurb. Reality blurb.
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Reality blurb. Yeah. I need. I need her calling and be like, allison's having dreams about her son. Whatever it is, I need these. I need. I need people. There, I said it. I'm standing by it now. That said, I still really enjoy the season, and I think it is very Game of Thrones where you're like, no, what are you doing? That's the absolute dumbest thing you can do. Like, the TV show Cape Fear, I just watched and loved it was the dumbest fucking thing. And everybody in it was so stupid. Making the worst decisions, and you're yelling at the TV the whole time. But that's, you know, that's what makes it fun.
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Yeah. Well, let's get into this. We open up, and Helena is dreaming. It's a dream sequence for Helaena. And she is like. She's in King's Landing and she's petting a horse. And then the gates of King's Landing open up, and there's all this sunlight, and it's just like, ooh. And then all of a sudden, yeah, Freedom. Freedom from King's Landing. And then all of a sudden, Rhae Ray wakes her up. She's like, helena, Helena, Helena. Trying to honor.
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Open your eyes. Open your eyes. Open your eyes. It's Penelope Cruise. So she opens her eyes and she's like, have you heard from my mother? She's like, no, Nor do I expect to until. Did. Did Aemon ask you to ride into battle with him? She's like, yeah. Rhae is playing, like, really nice because she wants something. And I also really like this version of Rhaenyra. I like that. I kind of was hoping that she's like, hey, like, we can be friends just because your evil family's not here. I've always been a nice person.
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We're both blonde. But she doesn't have the manipulation qualities that Allison does. She's very clunky with it. So she's like, you know, when I was a girl, I wanted to fly. But now when I'm with Dream Fire, it's. Well, it's too much. Oh, sorry. That was Elena speaking. I was like, dream Fire. Even I know that belongs to Helena. So Raniera's like, you're like, yes, but I think our father felt the same way. He renounced the strength of dragons and embraced a quieter life. That dumb. His face fell off. Well, so much for his life. Certainly was quiet when he had nothing else to say. So Helena's like, he did not wish to be changed. It's like, well, yes, but you believe that dragons all trust in some way. Helena, don't talk about the dragons.
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Yeah. She's like, have you seen yourself? You don't think the dragon's changed you? And she's like, no, Well, I don't want to be changed. I just wish to be an end to be put to our contest so we can just go back to where we were. Helena sister, I believe you're a psychic. Is this true? She's like, kind of. I see flashes. Kind of. She's like, okay, what did you see last? Am I going to be rich? Will I be famous? Will I be rich? Sell me. Tell me right now. It's like, sorry, I can't see it like that. What are the lottery numbers? Tell me the lottery numbers right fucking now. I.
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Have you been able to. Helena, sister, have you been able to see the Love island reunion yet? What happens? Are Sincere and Jessica still together? I have to know. Why is she staying with them? She's like, I. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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I lost my phone. The battery's out. Tell me where it is. Where is my phone? Like, it doesn't work like that. She grabs her wrist. She's like, tell me. Tell me psychic things. She's like, no, I can't do it. Oh, you're hurting me.
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It's like, what about Tumbleton? What about Tumbleton? Elena? Selena's like, you think I'm gonna use my psychic gifts to think about Tumbleton? I don't care about Tumbleton.
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Listen, I see things in short flashes. My mom, my brother, Fast forward. They're out of chubby. Hubby at the store. Ah. It's like, I can't pick it, you know? It doesn't work like that. It's like, God.
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Oh, so you don't know? Or you will not say? Because you may refuse me as your sister, but I may compel you as your queen. Now, tell me what you know. Tell me there's been no mistake. Tell me what I will propel. Tell me. Elena's like, ah, geez. Geez, lady.
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She's like, how my hand. I have to sew things. I love that you're sitting there, you're talking to this lady. You're trying to force some psychic shit out of her, and she's making a psychic blanket right in front of you. All you have to do is look down. Yeah, you would see a blanket of your whole family dead and being surrounded in blood. Just ask her about the blanket. It's like one of those Lifetime movies where they're like, oh, your son made some artwork for us today. It's your whole family. We blood coming out of their faces, and all of you are xed out. I wonder. Wonder what that could mean.
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Seriously. I also noticed in the opening credits, I'm really bad about tracking from week to week, like, what is new on the tapestry or and what not. Tapestry. Yeah, yeah. The tapestry versus what is old. What. I'm really bad at it. But this week, I did notice it looked like Kristen Cole's death was there. And I'm like, has it always been there? Has it always been in the opening credits? Because I definitely noticed it. I also noticed, has it been there?
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It was. It's new. No, they add stuff to it, like, every week or every other week.
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Right? That's what I thought. They add stuff. But some things, I'm like, maybe this is like, sometimes I think, like, there's things in there where I'm like, what is this? And I feel like, oh, it makes sense later. But this time I was like, wait a second. There's a knight with an arrow in his eye. My tapestry sense is going off.
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I actually looked up a YouTube recap of the opening, and there's, you know, there's different ones because they keep changing it, and it explains to you what's going on. And I still can't tell you what's going on. I mean, I can tell you kind of, but I'm still like, huh. Okay. So it starts with old Valeria and the, like, brother and sister who were married. There were brother and sister. Right. See, I'm gonna everybody up with trying to remember, even with the blanket supp to be. And then the doom of Valyria, and you see Valeria go to. And then you see the new family and all this. So I try and follow it and wow, every time. I just. I still don't get too up for the show yet.
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I keep watching. There's certain things I always. I'm like, I know what that is. I always feel so smart, like when the baby gets killed and. And, like, the stitching goes across its neck or when the big dragon battle last season and they show those two dragons, like, descending on Harrenhal and things like that. Now, by the way, I have to say also about Heron hall, like, I like, it's amazing how many things have happened at Harrenhal. You know, just on this show on Game of Thrones, I was sort of going Down a Game of Thrones, you know, K hole. And I feel like every event was like. And this happened at Harrenhal? Oh, yes. This battle that happened at Harrenhal. I'm like, harrenhal really is like, it's really. It's really up in this. This franchise's butt. Like, it's such an annoying place every single time. And the things keep happening there. Like, we keep on having to deal with Aaron all ready for this show
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has made it annoying.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's this show that's made Heron hall because of that whole thing last season where it's just Aemond wandering around the Heron hall tripping balls for the whole season. So that kind of kicked Haron Hall's ass for me. But I actually still like Karen Hall. I mean, it's one of the only non overcrowded places. It's not like teaming with people asking, you know, like people asking for stuff or like running each other over with carts. And it's just like a nice, peaceful neighborhood. I mean, they could use some remodeling.
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Yeah, it definitely. It definitely. Like, I had forgotten that Little Finger became the Lord of Harrenhal. Like, of course. Of course Littlefinger did. You know, it's a lot.
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Well, here we are back at Harrenhal, and Amond is working on his sword work with his now suddenly healed. The man gets stabbed in the freaking back. Like his love handle area. And he's fine. I don't know how much time has passed, but he's healing very, very quickly.
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He. Well, you know, I think he's got some like, witch, like, accelerated witch health thing happening here. He has a really great medical plan. It's like witchy permanente. And so he's there, and then all of a sudden, Allison enters and he's like, mother. And she goes, I told you I would come if I could. He's like, were you not taken captive? She goes, your sister was taken. But I managed to stay hidden to escape. You've been so clever to remain here undiscovered, except for by me. Don't you ever wonder how I figured out you were here? Anyway, doesn't matter. Here I am. And I'm so happy to see you.
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She's like, wow. All I've done is travel and hope that you're okay. You've really taken care of yourself, big boy. Mama just needs a bed. Want to make out? Hell out. And then they start boning. What the hell?
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I was like, damn, Allison.
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The hell?
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Cuz he kissed her Last season. Right. And she was like, oh, this season? Oh, is this season when that happened?
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Yes. It was just a couple episodes ago. He kissed her. Yeah. And that. That's, I think, one of the reasons she's like, just kill him. Jeez. Killed a little perv.
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It just was a blur. What happened this season versus last season. Yeah, he kissed her, like, by like the mantle or something like that. So they start having sex, and then Allison is like, and in this moment, I will give you a son. I was like, oh, that's her dastardly plan. She'll kill him, but she'll still have a son. So the bloodline continues, but then it turns out it's actually just Al, who is like, I'm gonna give you a son.
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I'm a witch. I'm your favorite witch.
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I love Alice now. I mean, she was fine last season. I love Alice.
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Oh, yeah, I do too. I'm still saying, oof. At the scene that we just watched. I was squealing at the TV during this mother son thing. It was so gross. And Eamonn is such a narcissist that he. It's not only that you dream of fucking your mom. It starts with like, I'm so sorry I was a bad mother. And he's like, no, not at all, Mom. She's like, I was just so young. Sorry, babe. Okay, now let's fuck. It's like, wow, he gets it all in there.
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Yeah, he does.
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Yeah. He's like haha. Your crush died. Sorry. Hey, don't worry, it's okay. I got this.
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Yeah. Wayne's like what?
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Zippy? So then Damon arrives to speak with Jay and Aaron. Jane Aaron also now she's giving what I need. I love that she's just completely bored in every scene. She also has the best throne room and the best throne. I love her throne. I'm a big fan of wood and trees and I love that she just has that gigantic tree throne and it's
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so windy in there. At all times. Whenever, whenever they're seen in there they always have like wind effects playing. It's like I'm like, could you guys close your moon door? It's a little drafty in here, so.
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And she's sitting there right at the edge of the moon door, which I love. She's like, you talk to me, and if I don't like you, I could just open this door with the push of a button. Also, doesn't she have a girl on her lap?
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Yeah, she has, like. They are very much a. Someone has to be in my lap on this throne at all times. Because in Game of Thrones, what's her face had. Would always have Robin sitting there on the throne with her. So here she is. She has, like, a lady. A lady in waiting that's there. And she's, like, stroking her hair, and then she sort of, like, gently sends her off. So she's like, my prince. He's like, miv, where is she? Where's Raina? She's like, well, I see we're dispensing with courtesies. He's like, where is she? Here is she? Well, she flew just after I sent you, so I could not hold her. Too bad. She took a good slap. Yeah.
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She's like, listen, you think it's easy to control a teenager? She came here, she begged for my help. I helped her, and she fucked me over. What do you want me to do? Okay. The villagers gossip of a wild girl in the mountains living amongst nettles, which is a nice little nod to the books because that was a character that's missing. Nettles.
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Nettles.
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What do you think of that? And yeah, there's a character missing from here named nettles that they say they're kind of merging with Raina. So she's like, well, I'm done with her. So now I have to tell the queen that she ran away. He's like, no, give me a day.
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Please.
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Please. I'll say please, even. And it's very difficult for me to say please. I'm a man. And she's like, all right. Well, a man said please, fine.
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She's like, let me just. I'll say whatever I need to say to this guy so I can go back to doing my favorite activity, stroking the hair of a lovely maiden. So then Damon think.
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And she tells him that there. There's a been a sighting of Vegar near Fair Market. So he's like, I'm going to get him now. I'm. I'm going to go kill Veg.
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There's no one found. Veigar, the biggest dragon in the entire, you know, continent. Everyone's like, where is that? Where's that massive, massive dragon? You know, it's like it should be pretty obvious, right?
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I mean you would think it's pretty big. But don't you think during this show I, I think of, I thought of this during this scene when she's just like petting the girl's hair. This bored, you know, she's like, well here I am petting some hair. And I think it later when not Helaena Rhaenyra is in bed and she's just like staring at the ceiling thinking. I just think, God, what were times? There's no tv. Like these people just have to sit there in utter silence. There's nothing to listen to, there's nothing to watch. They're just sitting there staring off into space until someone talks to them. I mean, there's not even books or anything. The show, the show. This period is kind of hell.
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Well, they do have the model of old Valeria in, you know. That's true. So that's like a pretty, that's pretty big like must see TV for them. Let's go into that room and look at the model. So now we see Adam, Adidam and Bela and they're looking for Veigar. And so Bella is like, oh my God, we're behind. I think we're two days behind Eamon. Like, I'm so sick of this. This is so annoying. And you know, Ray Ray, she just like, you know, we're just basically tools for her. And Adam's like, he's like, you know, I was, I wondered, my lady, if I might beg you for kindness. My father wishes for Alan to and me to be legitimized and take the Valyrian name. And the Queen is being reluctant. So you think you could maybe put in a good word for me? She's like, what? What are you talking about? She hates me now. She thinks like. Like, don't you forget I locked her into her room and then flew off with her favorite son. And then that led him. That led to him being killed. I have no sway.
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Yeah. And he's like, but you could try maybe with your dad. And she's like, oh my God, who cares about titles now? I mean, I get it, but you have a dragon. So isn't that good enough for now? Like baby steps. And he's like, well, I mean, if either one of us to marry, were to marry or if we gained the favor of some high born lady, wink wink. It's like, oh my God, did your brother tell you I'm totally Into your brother.
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Yeah, we have, like, a really new. We have, like, a really new relationship that came out of nowhere. And we were, like, in love. So we're probably gonna get married. Even though there was nothing to build up this entire storyline. Oh, my God. Do you want to be part of our love triangle now? Because this could be a thunder.
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His face. He's like, oh, hell no. I know. I did not just get blocked by Alan, of all people. Alan. Willie.
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Dragons.
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Yeah. And then there's dragons coming. And they're like, oh, dragons are coming. Oh, my God.
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So they're like, is it vegar? Like, no. So meanwhile, over in Harrenhal, Allison actually does arrive. She has arrived real alicent. And so she's walking with Aemond and she's like, I did not think us like, to escape the Red Keep, but Sir Adrian remains steadfast and resolute. And he lost to a secret gate. And there was a. There was a bell and someone rang a bell. So I went through it. And then we drove. I mean, we were on. We were on the horses and it was great and everything is fine. And there was, like, many trees. And I saw a cat. The cat was so cute. Oh, my God, you should see the cat. It's like she's like, trying to concoct a story of how she got there. He's like, yeah, okay, mother, I get it. You're here enough.
B
And he's just staring at her because he's like, did. Can I. You really confused. Can I stick my penis inside of you? Can I get a penis test? Anybody? Can anybody help you? And she's like, what? What's wrong? Did I piss you off? And he's like, no. She's like, you're all I have left. He's just staring at her like, and you're going to apologize, make out with me, and then let me stick it in you. Let's get to that part.
A
Wait. Come outside to this courtyard where only good things happen. I want to introduce you to someone really cool. This is Sir Adrian. He's so fun. I think, like, he would just, like, we could all just have, like, game nights together, dinner parties. I think he'd really be, like, a good mix for our group. So, you know, what do you say? Here's Adrian.
B
He's like, oh, Adrian, you got my mom here. Safe. Give me your hand. We are gonna shake hands. Oh, sorry. Stabbed you in the neck, sucker.
A
She's like, amand. And then she's like, oh, fuck. This guy was supposed to be the one to kill him. And on top of that, I mean, Adrian did himself no, no favors because Aemond is like, he's like, hello, how are you? And Eamon's like, I bend the knee to your prince. And he sort of gives this look like, I'm fucking with you. I'm being totally insincere. I'm gonna kill you as soon as I can. He's like smirking like, gotcha, Gotcha, buddy. I was like, yeah, that's not how you're gonna win his trust.
B
Stabbed right in the neck. She's like, that was my ride home. Sorry, mom, but there are secrets here. I can trust no stranger. He's like, but hey. Oh, and look who comes out. It's Alice. And it's the typical daughter in law, mother in law, like the stereotypical energy. She's like, oh, hello mother. She's like, ew, gross. You're marrying her, Nasty. She's like, you're just in time for supper.
A
Then we go over to Tumbleton and Ormond. Darren and Lord Corlys are eating at the table and Ormond is, he's just doing his thing where he, he starts, you know, it's like the m. The maesters tell me of, tell me the fat of livestock is beneficial to the bones. But I do wonder how something so slippery in substance can truly be benign. Do try the wine, Lord Corless. I find it wise off the fetid air of this place, like fully leaning into gay villainy. And I support it.
B
This food looked disgusting, okay? And I know that this isn't a big Top Chef kind of show where you just stare at the dishes and ooh and awe, but this looked like some raw ass chicken. That was nasty.
A
It just, it just, it looked like it just needed to have like a good sear on it. They didn't really lean into the Maillard effect. And you need to get some browning. Like that's what.
B
Yeah, that shit was like, what do you call it when you put it in the bag and then boil it? What's that called? Sous vide. This shit was sous vide. It was like sous vide pigeon. It would look nasty. At least put some mustard on that. Yeah. So Corlys is like, what? So we find out Corlys is alive and he's been taken to Ormond. So he's like, what are you on? What do you want? Were you going to just like feed me some raw chicken before you kill me? You want me to shit my guts out before you kill me? What do you want? From me. And he's like, oh, on the contrary, we hope to enjoy the pleasure of your company for some time. We'll keep you here. He's like, why? As a hostage? And he's like, oh, please. Does the savage queen harbor such a tender heart, Thought that she should cast away a crown for the sake of a wayward hand? No one's coming for you, okay? No, we just really like you. Also, without your men to help. Ray Ray. Ray Ray's. So it'll be fun. Just have some chicken.
A
Yeah. And then Darren, his plan is basically like, yeah, no one's coming for you. And on top of that, the Valyrians are not going to protect the city knowing that their leader is here. So what? Especially since she doesn't go to save the leader. And so then Darren leans over and he's like, but how will that help when the Winter wolves are clawing at our gates? And Ormond is like, you. This is my monologue. I told you I wanted to have my own scene. Stop it.
B
Can a bitch have a scene?
A
These kids.
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You know, I'm thinking of becoming a vegetarian just because I know it pisses people off. If I really want to get people, I'm gonna claim vegan and just watch the heads pop. What do you think of that? And he, like, takes a little pear and starts chewing on it.
A
Yeah. And then he's like. He starts talking about, like. He's like, you know, corals. What are you even seeing these people anyway? I mean, they're just the worst. I mean, I know your wife. Your wife was, you know, Targaryen, but, like, honestly, they're just a whole bunch of wild animals, right? Like, yeah.
B
It's like, what do you even have in common with these people? Have you seen my hair? Have you seen My haircut? My hairstyle? My hair color? Hello, sir.
A
My beautiful hair.
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He's like, they. They suck. They're monsters now. You guys, your family. You guys should work with us. Wouldn't it be fun? Oh, we have such good things here. Chicken. Chess. Got chess over there. We don't call it chess, but we're missing a piece after I slammed them all to the floor last week. But we still. Games games. You don't have anything where you're from? And he's like, oh, off. I'm going back to my cell.
A
Like, actually, one second. Before you do that, let me hold up a knife, menacingly, and we'll circle back to this in a little bit. So then Gwen and Darren are talking privately, and they're like, oh God, he's the worst. Darren's like, I mean he was in like a, he was in a good mood but like I know it's like he's acting like we're on the eve of some victory but like we're about to get killed by this, this army. And Gwen's like, is this his piece on the board? What is he, what is like the order or disorder of King's Landing matter to us now with this army at our gates? Like hello, we're about to get murdered.
B
Yeah. And Darren's like, I'm supposed to be the king and I can't even do anything. And Gwen's like yeah, yeah, well what are you going to do to this guy? And he's like, sorry your boyfriend got killed. He's like, it wasn't my boyfriend, but thank you.
A
So Darren's like, well I don't know, what do we do? I mean, look, I'm supposed to be the king like. And I'm like what am I? I can't flee cuz then I'm just the king who like left his gang, his group, his followers. That's shitty. Then I'm here. I mean, I don't care. I don't know, I don't know what like I don't care. Let Ray Ray be the queen. Why can't I just like, you know what I want to do? I want to sell insurance, I want to go off and like sign up geico, sell policies, you know, can I
B
just have a normal life? Yeah, like I just want a normal life. I want to go to a retreat once a year somewhere fun and glamorous where I get to hang out with my co workers. I mean, what's wrong with that? And Gwen is like just, you have a dragon. Like what are you complaining about? You literally have your own plane. And he's like where am I gonna go? This guy's gonna still be an with or without me. It's like not like anybody's gonna stop him. And I don't really care about the ground anyway, so like we're together, so I don't know, I hope they, they kill his ass. Although I really like Ormond, he's the most entertaining villain we've got.
A
Ormond's great. I feel bad for Darren. He doesn't want to be in this situation. He hates Ormond, he doesn't want to be king. This whole thing was just hatched like you know, two weeks ago that suddenly he's become king. I do say he should just get on that Dragon and fly off to Bravos. You know, live a charmed life. Or go down to, like, go down to Dorne, hang out with the Martels. But now we go back over to the small council, and Torn Manderly is very upset. He's been sort of like, you know, he's had a rye sense of humor all these episodes, but now he's, like, not having it because he's been blamed every single instance for why everything is wrong. They're like, we don't have candles. Oh, it's Manderly's fault.
B
We.
A
I need a new backsplash. Oh, Manderly's in charge of new backsplashes. You can't have that. I. I'm. I. I can't find my other sock. It's Manderley. He's taking socks. Sorry, everyone. Sorry.
B
Like, this is outrageous. I mean, I can't even have a home without having poop smeared all over the doorstep.
A
It's ridiculous.
B
It's like, what do you want me to do about it? He's like, I mean, you named me responsible for everything in the city. Of course they're gonna come for me. I mean, I advocated for attacks. It's fallen on deaf ears, our dribble to spend as fast as they gathered. I mean, it's almost like I've been installed here, some sort of a scapegoat. She's like, duh. Yeah, you think you were installed here because you have a nice coat? I'm like, yes, you're here to blame, dumbass. Look at that.
A
So river is like, have we heard anything from anyone? Have we heard from Corliss, Harrenhal, Damon? Where is everyone, by the way? And Orwell's, like, absent. The Prince, I think, is on some sort of errand of his own. He didn't say what it is, but I don't think I know what it is. I'm not supposed to know. And he flew out. And Alan's like, the river Host is but to do his march away from Tumbleton. Your Grace. And the Valyrian forces will be at the King's Landing on the morrow. And the Menderly is like, excuse me, I'm still complaining. Someone put poop on my door and I don't like it. Can we not change the subject?
B
Well, pardon me, Lady Sabetha here. That's right, my turn. So now, listen. If Sir Adrian's been successful in his endeavors, of course, and there's a small matter of Harrenhal. I'm basically here to get Harrenhal you gonna give me Harrenhal or what? Like, are we gonna just talk about taxes all day? Are we gonna talk about heron? Hall Heron. She's like, oh, fucking take Harrenhal. Jesus Christ. It's missing half its columns anyway. Just go.
A
She's like, really? She's like, yes. Go. Oh, my God. Like, thank you. Thank you very much. Well, yes. This is what. What a great day. I. I can't. First of all, I can't even believe I wound up on the small council. I wasn't even really explaining how I got here in the first place. And I just didn't think this would actually work out. But it did. I just. I'm. It's kind of like, amazing, right? He's like, oh, shut up. You don't have poop on your door. Still sucky for me over here. Can we talk about the feces yet?
B
So Adam's like, oh, my Queen, we've seen something strange. Like, is it Vegar? All I care about is Vegar. No, it's Sheep Stealer. He's in the Riverlands. Let's go get him. She's like, oh, and they say he has a rider. And she's like, how does he already have a new rider? I've got the old rider's head on the coffee table. It's right there, look. Yeah, it just finished rotting.
A
Like, we don't. We don't know. So meanwhile, by the way, during this entire small council, Missouri is watching. Like, and also like, and also like. So now it's afterwards, and they're walking around and she's like, that head that Damon brought you, can you say in honesty, you've had no doubts? He was long in the Riverlands, and now Sheep Stealer resided there with a rider. He assured, what, you was dead. And in that same moment, he has absented himself without explanation.
B
Yeah. She's like, have you realized yet? He's a liar, liar, pants on fire. She's like, oh, but I. He wouldn't betray me, so. But he did, because he's lying to you. It's like, oh, God, stop nagging me about Damon. Missouri is like, get Adam instead.
A
This is why you shouldn't have a throuple at the seat of power of a continent. Someone's always going to be feeling left out.
B
Yeah. So then we go to Laris, who is still with Tyland and Egon. They're on their walk around show. So they're walking around and they come across some river folk. Some river folk are rushing the opposite direction. And they're like, where are you all going? They're like, oh, the army's coming. You guys better run. So Eggin's like, I'm not running anymore. I'm a man and I'm gonna stand up to this army and I'm gonna tell them who the fuck they're dealing with. And just in case they don't know, I'm gonna have this little sliver of blonde hair at all times coming out of my hoodie.
A
He's like, I'm so sick of this. Okay. I'm sick of it. But they are still like, you know, they're like. It's like, I don't. I don't know.
B
So then over and Thailand's like, no, no, we need to hide. And he's like, no, I will not hide. And he's like, we have to hide. So then we go back to Helen Hall.
A
Yeah. So I think actually at this point they're just kind of like, like, what's going on? I don't think that Aegon has even gotten to a place of like, oh, it. I'm not doing this anymore. Now they're just like, really? What's happening now? So then we at Harren hall, we have this great scene of Alice, Alicent and Aemond, the three A's. And it really is like, you know, Alicent's son has come home from college with some sort of like goth alternative girl who. Who she does not approve of whatsoever. And they're having to have dinner and she's trying to be sort of pleasant, but is like, who the F is Alice?
B
Yeah. So Alice is like, well, you must be fraught in a doubt. I mean, half the tales I heard about the King's Road or Drew is pretty dangerous, but you sure made it here scot free. Do you want to see my tattoos? I've got some tattoos. One right here under my booby, the other one right here in my ass cheek. You want to see them? They say, die, mother, die.
A
We met when we were doing a tantric yoga session together. It was a workshop and we fell in love. Oh, that's lovely.
B
And he's like, she said you do for a living. I read tarot cards in the mall. It's like, oh, God.
A
Oh, that. That sounds wonderful.
B
And I used to work at Claire's, but I got fired for not putting alcohol on the little stabber thing before. I put it in someone's ears and it turned green. Oh.
A
So we're starting a band. We're starting a band together. She's a great musician. And I'm going to learn the drums. Oh, the. The drums. That's lovely for you, Eamon. Absolutely lovely.
B
So she's like, who is this woman? Just tell me who this is. And he's like, oh, she's a lady and a maester of sorts, and she's been taking care of the castle, and I'm just staying here. I'm thinking of making this house my home. This will be my seat. And Allison's like, your seat? You're taking over hair and all. He's like, have you noticed the whole front of the house is crushed in? There are no columns in this house.
A
But you're the one who told me to come here and make it my seat. Don't you remember? Oh, yes, that's right. I did say that. Yes, I did say that. But look, Ray Ray has the throne and six dragons to her name, and it is she who rules. Now, as much as we might wish it otherwise, I will not be visiting you here in this dump ever again. He's like, but look, Rhaenyra's dragons are ridden by commoners. She's defiled our great house, diminished the iron throne, and sowed the seeds of her own ruin. She will certainly fail, and we will raise our own throats here in the mud of the Riverland. She's like, mud, yes. Love that we've got crazy lady by your side and dreams of having people in mud. This is great.
B
He's like, mother, it's gonna be amazing. And you can live here with us, you know? It's gonna be great. She's like, I think your mom has to be going. You know, traffic's gonna be really bad out there. Pretty important your mom gets back on the road. It's like, yeah, I killed her Uber.
A
So new season of matlock starts at 9pm So I guess you better get on the road back to the castle, right? You don't want to miss Matlock, huh? Okay, good luck with that.
B
He's like, you're gonna stay with us, and that's it. And Alice is like, we're out of wood. Which is my favorite way to get away from the table now. Like, honey, we have to talk. We need some wood. Get outside and chop some wood.
A
So now Eamon's outside, and he's like, I will not be cuddled or admonished like a witless child. I'm like, that's literally who you are. And Alice goes, tried carefully with her Aemond. She's come to do you some sort of ill. He's like, but she's my blood. And thus without blemish. But she's always.
B
Oh, God. She's always had her secrets. But, I mean, you asked me to get wood, and I've had wood ever since she came, so isn't that a good enough sign? She's like, oh, God, I didn't say, I want you to take over this castle with your mother, okay?
A
He's like, oh, and there's the truth of it. You want me for yourself. And she's like, there's a fog that surrounds her. Well, we did serve her chili beans. No, listen, I'm being metaphorical. She has come to you to do some evil.
B
He's like, keep it to yourself, lady. Stop trying to become. Stop trying to come between me and Mommy. So he's not listening. Meanwhile, Allison goes outside, sees the dead body of her Uber guy and takes his knife.
A
And then she sees the night. She sees some Nightshade. All this time, we thought the Nightshade was going to be setting up Helena's demise. And then it still might. But now it's like, ooh, it's going to be used against Aemond. So then over in the wood, now, Larys and Tylander and Aegon are walking around, and Larys has, like, a haircut. Haircut. I don't know how that happened, but his hair is, like, shorter. It's, like, a little tighter. It's, like, thinned out and, like, it's got, like, product in it. I'm like, what is happening with Laris this season? And so then these guys from Rook's Rest come up, and they're like, well, it's true. Lord Mutin of Maidenpool is dispatched an army. And Lars, like, who cares if they want to give us bras? He's like, no, not for maiden form. Maiden pool. And they're. They're here. They're coming to Rook's rests. They're going village to village. You have to watch out. They're coming to find you.
B
He's like, I don't care. I'm gonna stand up to the army. Nobody's gonna get me to run away again. I'm a man now. I was poor for 10 minutes. I've learned my lesson. I've learned how to be a king. Like, Thailand is like, okay, I'll stay with you. I'm not gonna abandon my king. And Larys is like, fuck that. I'm outta here. Bye, sucker.
A
And actually, the. What's. What's funny is that the army's really looking for Thailand because the, the queen is wants him. She found out that he survived and she wants him to find out where all the money is. But you know, you know Aegon's gonna be, you know, collateral damage here. But when Aegon's like, I'm not doing this anymore. Let them find me, I'll. I will die as a, as a king who was not running away. So Talon's like, well, feel kind of bad that you'll die because of me, so I'll stick with you. He's like, good, so let's go to find my dragon because I want to die by my dragon.
B
Yeah. So they start walking through and Laris is like peacing out. See ya.
A
Here comes one right now.
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New members can start listening with a 30 day free trial at audible.com WWC back to Raina and Damon on sheep stealer and Soraxes. And he has his dragon bite her dragon. So they have to land. And so they land in a field and have a mother daddy fight. And he's like, what the are you doing? She's like, you were supposed to stay there. You promised me you were going to stay in that little cave. She's like, I just can't stay in a cave. What the hell? There's nobody in there. I'm so bored.
A
He's like, you have to do this, okay?
B
There's no wi fi.
A
And so like, Reyna's like, I have to kill Veigar. I have to because I will have paid some debt to Rhaenyra. Like, or at least have grounds to sue for. For mercy like you had. It's like, no, you're gonna die. Well, okay, well then fine, then I will paid for it. Okay? I'll die absolved. It's fine. It's fine. It's. It's definitely like an episode of like, self sacrifice. And Damon's like, okay, you know, but
B
you're also sacrificing sheep stealer, okay? She's. You know, suicide by suicide is one thing, but suicide with your dragon is another thing. Like, don't drag the dragon into fighting with Veigar. That's not cool.
A
Well, that's.
B
What dragon too much today.
A
I know. Well, Damon's like, okay, well, you. You're not gonna do it alone. I will help because I'm your dad, all right? We do this together. And he's like, no. Just so you know, I had no dragon either when I was young. Did you know that? She's like, I could tell father, you do sort of have, you know, something to prove. And he's like, yeah, well, my mother died in childbed. And then like, you know, my brother, he was always so sad and like, whoa. And so I was just like, you know, like, wow. Like, you know, I just should have. I should have done better. Reina. So he's like, sharing. He's like, bonding with her. That, like, I was like, you once flummox.
B
Like, I should have been about a father. And they start getting somewhere. But then some. Some more dragons start coming. And it's Adam and Rhaena. No, it's Adam and ba. It's Adam and Rhaenyra. Oh, my gosh. So it's Adam and Rhaenyra who. Come on. Seasmoke and Syrax. And she's like, oh, my God, you lied. You. You've been just Setting me up this whole time to get killed. He's like, it's not my bad.
A
Run. Run. So basically then Ray Ray gets off her dragon and she's like wait a second, Raina. No Reina use you. And she's like I didn't mean to, I'm so sorry. I just thought I've spent the whole season in a cave and I just am doing crazy things now cuz I'm so bored in this storyline of mine. Like okay, fine, fine, fine.
B
So then run and leave the dragon because they're just going to get you out of the sky if you try and go on that dragon run. And she runs and le Sheep stealer. Now look, I know this is a kid and everything. You have to judge kids a little bit differently because who didn't do stupid things when they were. Don't just leave Sheep Stealer to get eaten by the other dragons. Die with your dragon. That's the whole point. You get a dragon and you're like bonded together. What the hell?
A
So then it's like a whole thing like all the dragons start to fight. There have been like so many hilarious memes about the, about this dragon fight and they're all going at each other and eventually Rhaenyra grabs Reyna and like flies off with her back to back
B
to this dragon fight. First off, I did not find this hilarious. I was screaming at my tv. They attacked, they killed that poor. Well they probably didn't kill him.
A
No one died.
B
I felt so bad for Sheep Stealer and they were, they kept getting it. By the way, Rainier is dragon, not a great fighter but they go for this poor Sheep stealer and then it's like limping away whining like a dog. Like a hurt dog. I did not like this. This hurts my feelings more than anything that happens on the shows. When they hurt these dragons. I do not like it. And I liked how they showed Damon's dragon opening its mouth to give fire and it's like this beautiful mouth with a clean tongue. And then Sheepstealer opens his mouth to fight back and it's this like old nasty green tongue covered in like just crap. It was like the bad breath dragon. I like details like that.
A
Yeah, well they all fought and Damon stayed his back to help with this fight and eventually like Sheep Stealer definitely gets its ass whooped. But. But like you know, survives and just sort of like goes off in the corner like okay, okay, okay, okay, goodbye.
B
But this is fun. Did they cut out the fire breathing part of its throat? Or something, because I know they were burning each other. But when Sheep Stealer was walking away whining, I thought that they were showing, like, a hole in his throat. And I was like, oh, no, now he's going to be a dragon without fire. The hell?
A
I. I don't know if that hole means that much. It means that I don't know. But, like, for sure, Sheep Stealer definitely got. Got a lot of bites to the throat. So it was definitely a very impressive display of cgi. I mean, like, that they had to animate that whole fight with so much going on, so much physics. I was like, wow, this is impressive. It was very loud and very, like, bitey. And there's a lot going on. I was like,
B
tells Adam and the Queen to get out of there. And they do. And he's like, I'm gonna finish off Sheep Sealer. So they trust him. It's like, ray, Ray, come on. When are you gonna learn? And he does not kill. He ends up not killing Sheep Stealer and lets it walk away. It's gonna get in trouble for that later.
A
So then we go to Back to King's Landing, and Ms. Arya is. While all this is happening, Ms. Aria is, like, giving Madame Sylvie a tour. She's like, so this is the throne room. It's pretty cool, right?
B
And she's the current head hooker lady, the lady that runs the brothel.
A
The madam, if you will. And yeah, you know, Sylvia's like, in
B
my head, because she used to be the main. The main lady, and now it's this one.
A
Yeah. So Sylvie's like, oh, my God, look at all those swords. You know? You know what it looks like? A hundred sharp little all vying for attention. Am I right? And Missouri's like, well, the Queen wishes at the moment to hear no more petitions. She's like, well, that seems dumb. Like, why would you do that? Like, this place has turned to. She goes, yes, I agree. But you know what? I'll hear the petitions now, and then I'll bring the ones I really like to the Queen. What about that?
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She's like, yeah, you can't just make yourself like, head of Petitions. What the fuck? It's like, yes, I can. I just did it. I will be queen, kind of. So go tell everybody. She's like, yeah, you know that you're just a whore, right? And they're always going to consider you just a. What are you doing? Acting like you're better than everybody? She's like, has. Have you considered maybe I can help people from this position? And she's like, yeah, you don't have any power, okay? Except to flatter and cajole. Is that why you called me here? To look on the trappings of someone that could hold you in awe? You think I'm going to be impressed with you? You're just a hooker at the end of the day. And these people are not your own. So remember that. Because within the world of the highborne, a whore will always and ever remain a whore.
A
I didn't like this. I like Sylvie. Relax. She's basically saying, yo, I've got. I've got the hookup with the queen. So, you know, you come to me and I'll make sure that thing happened. And Sylvie's like, what has happened to you? Winston's. When is Sylvie' so righteous? And I also don't like this Mazar. This kind of like Mazaria questioning herself. Like, oh, my God, all this self doubt you got. Allison's getting into her head, Sylvie's getting into her head. Everyone's getting into Mazaria's head. And I hate that. Like, I like my Mazaria to, like, always be the one who's thinking actually a few steps ahead of everyone else. And it's like, not so fast. So I don't like what they're doing to Mazaria. I'm actually more upset about what they're doing with Toaria than what they're doing to Ray Ray. Because, like, Ray Ray, okay, she is in power, and power does corrupt. So, like, I don't like it, but it. It does seem natural. But then, Ms.
B
Aria, I want Missouri, like, the master of Whisperers. We expect more from you. Okay? I need more. Diabolical and less I watch.
A
I'm, like, afraid they're setting up her to betray Ray Ray, you know, because she's, like, not really one of them, you know, having this big scene of, like, yo, everyone was right. I never was one of you. You know, they're. They're setting that up. But what I really want is from Azaria to kind of like, be like, you know what? You all don't go against me because I'm the one really running this place. And then she does something and, like, vanquishes her enemies.
B
Yeah, she's supposed to be the smartest one here. Yeah, it's Game of Thrones tradition. So she's watching the manipulator be so easily manipulated. Yeah, it's rough. I don't like it either. So then we go back to Harrenhal Aiment doing that Sword work again. And Allison comes in with some. I mean, Allison is just not subtle at all. I can't believe that he didn't even pick this up. Like, hello, son. Hello. Hi, it's me, Mommy. You want to have some spice wine? But she just keeps looking down at the wine. She's like, I'm out. Just made some wine for you.
A
I made it with day sun. Day exposure. What? Not nightshade. Day exposure. It tastes great. You'll really enjoy it.
B
Day uv, Day uv. You're gonna love it. And he's like, well, it would be good to hang out with you, mother. You know what wine leads to. She's like, yes. Mmm. Delicious. Mm, wine. Mm, poison. Mmm. Don't, you know, don't have any hesitation. Drink it right now. And he's like, okay. So he's like, mom, I have to be honest with you. I tried to kill my brother. She's like, yeah, I know. But it's only because you're the hottest one in the family, and everybody needs to know it. You did the right thing. Don't even worry about it. Just drink the wine.
A
Another thing. Alice doesn't trust you. Well, I mean, she teaches Reiki, so what do you want me to say to that? Oh, no, the Reiki. He just doesn't trust me. Drink the wine. Drink the wine.
B
So then we go to King's Landing, and Ray Ray is with her handmaiden Linda. And Damon comes in, and Elaine Linda is about to leave, and Ray Ray is like, no, you can stay. It's like, oh, awesome. I love Alinda to watch I love you fight again. This sounds great.
A
I love. I'm so happy for the actress who plays Alinda. I love that she is like, every season of the show, she says two lines per season. Spends most of the time just looking at things in a concerned way and then brushing the hair. And then she just goes like, that's. That's how you make a paycheck.
B
Yeah. Yeah. And they just keep her. She's one of the ones that they just keep over and over. She's like, you want to see your son yet? No. Okay, I'll just brush your hair.
A
Hair brushing. Kind of my thing. So Damon comes in, and Elenda's like, well, gotta go. And she's like, no, stay. Which I don't know why she told Alinda to say, I should maybe try to read some interpretations of that, but she's like, I want you to think
B
she doesn't want Damon to be able to come in and manipulate her. And then just, like, have sex. So she's like, you can stay here. It's like telling your friend, like, don't go anywhere. Stay right here. And then you tell off the boyfriend, you know? So Damon's like, okay, I was trying to help my daughter. And she's like, you lied to me about my son being murdered. Like, am I supposed to not be pissed? And he's like, yeah, but you're my wife and she's my daughter. So I've neglected my daughter. So now I was trying to, like, be nice to my daughter. So why are all these men suddenly deciding to do right by their children? What is it on this season where suddenly deadbeat dads are, like, all deciding that they're going to be emotionally available for their children? What the hell? Do it on your own time.
A
So then we go over to Reina, and she's, like, sitting on a chair now. She's. She finally had, like, a shower, and she's like, all sad because that's, like, her thing. And so Bela walks in and she's like, hi, sister. So guess what? My whole thing is that I have, like, you know, character turns out of nowhere. So I just want to say to you, hey, it's all good. Don't worry about it. You killed my. Killed my. My husband slash cousin slash this guy. It was just, like, generally really cool. But you know what? It's cool, okay.
B
You killed my uncle, my cousin, my brother, my sister, and my pet.
A
How dare you.
B
It's also intermingled in this family. It's so up trying to figure out the relationships of everybody on the show.
A
Yeah. But she's like, it's okay, Ray. Ray. And then she just, like. They just, like, hug.
B
But I guess maybe you're still my sister, you know?
A
And, like, I understand what it's like to be spurned by this family. So now Alan is. Alan's walking around the castle. He's like, oh. He's, like, very happy. He just had, like, a little dessert or something. And then Guard is like, by the way, we got a package for you. We thought it was Amazon at first, but we don't see any label on it, so here it is. I'm sure it's just. I'm sure whatever it is is totally
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cool and won't shut your dad's finger.
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Whoops. And by the way, when you. When someone. When someone receives a box, an unexpected box that's that size, on any fantasy show or most serious dramas, it's always a finger inside. Like, that should just be Called a finger box.
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It's gonna be Gwyneth Paltrow's sunken or shrunken head. You know, I know. Tiny little head.
A
And thanks. On the. After. After the. You know, after the show is over, they have, like, the. They talk to the creators and the actors and everything. And what I loved was Steve Toussaint, who plays Corlys. He's describing this scene. He's like, they actually cut off his finger. They cut off his finger. Like, why didn't they just give him the ring? But they said, no, we gotta cut the finger. But I love that. The actor was like, can you believe this? They cut off my finger. My poor finger.
B
So then Damon, it comes into Alice at Heron Hall. He's like, maybe it's something I drank. And then he falls over. It's like, you idiot. Now I gotta go kill somebody's mother.
A
And then Elena's dreaming, like, as Amond is like, teetering towards death because of this nightshade. I think it's, like, affecting her dreams. So she's having a dream of giving birth and the baby takes.
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I didn't take. I didn't think of it like that.
A
Really?
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Yeah, I thought she was this whole episode dreaming about shit. I just thought it was Helena dreaming,
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but she was having, like. While he's stumbling around Harrenhal, she's simultaneously having very tortured dreams. First of her baby being taken away. Then it's like her on Dreamfire, and she's like. She's, like, in her, like, dragon riding uniform, and she's like, draco.
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This is the first time we've seen Dreamfyre. Dreamfire is a badass. It's a purple dragon and it has, like, horns coming out of it that are shaped into a crown.
A
So we never saw Dreamfire before.
B
I remember seeing this little cute purple dragon.
A
Yeah. And then. And then she. But I think the most damning thing is that there is a dream where she's in a field with her children and a horse. And, you know, that white horse didn't. It feels very significant. And she's like. She's with her kids who are not. I don't think all the kids are still alive anyway in real life. And then it's sunny and beautiful, but then it starts getting cold and snowing.
B
Yeah. She still has kids, but.
A
No, but, like, one of them was killed. Right.
B
But I mean, this is, like, the one on the way.
A
Oh. So maybe these are the two. This is the. The future child. So either way, the point is it goes from a bucolic moment to, like, foreboding. Cold, snowy. And so in my mind, I'm thinking there's been a lot of talk. Like, is Eamon connected to the White Walkers? He has the blue in his eye. He's actively dying right now. Alice is gonna have to do some sort of witchcraft to save him. And at the same time, Helena is having a vision that, you know, suggests something white. Walkery. You know, snow. Winter. Winter is coming. Is it all connected? What is happening here? Winter is coming.
B
So then we go to Ray Ray. This is where she can't sleep. And she's just staring at the ceiling. And I thought, God, don't you guys even have books? Like, something? But instead she goes to Miss Area and she's like, okay, it was Reina. He was hiding all along. Okay, he was lying to me. She's like, I told you so. Told you. Told you. Still want to hold you. It's like, okay, but you can't say betrayed me because he just didn't want to betray his daughter. So, I mean, that counts for something, right?
A
Yeah. And so they have this. This, like, exchange where basically Ray. Ray is like, like, you are trying to make me in your image. And she's like, my image? Your Grace, have I ever counseled you to like. To do, like, what? Like anything but what Viserys would have done. Like, what are you talking about? I don't want you to be like me. By the way, have you ever thought about, like, holding your hair, having your hair up, maybe dyeing it a little bit? It looks really good with your complexion.
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And Ray's like, yeah, well, what did my dad ever do?
A
Oh, wow.
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He had peace, prosperity. I didn't. I'm not doing anything that my dad did. You know, I don't have the gratitude of my subjects. I suck. Okay? My dad was not a dreamer, but his whole life was a dream. And she do not lose faith. You are good enough, you are smart enough, and people like you, you are going to win things. And she starts, like, seducing her, I think because the main hooker was like, you're not a politician, you're a hooker. So Missouri is like, okay, well, all you know, I've tried it with the talking way with you. And now I will try it with the seducing you way. And Ray Ray falls for the seducing way.
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Make love. And so our note taker, we have to give a big shout out to our note taker who is like, very fluent in this whole world. This is Chelsea and Chelsea, because they kiss and they Wind up having sex. And Chelsea says this has Reddit up in arms as it's not in the book and it's not supposed to be Rhaenyra who cheats. So there you go everyone. This is a like I can't believe. I can't believe a show that's showrun by like a middle aged guy would go out of its way to include like a lesbian sex scene. What a shocker.
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Well, yeah, this. This has been going on for a while, but I guess this is the first time that they than the deed they're just made out before they consummated it. Yeah. But then we go to Thailand and Aegon waiting for the army and they're like, here we go. We're about to die. We're gonna do this. We're together. At least we're together, Thelma. And the army comes and they're like, this is our land. You better bow to the queen or we're gonna kill you. And Aegon's like, like no. See this little sliver of blonde hair? Well, look at it. I'm the king. And nobody can scare me because I'm the king. And guess what? The church stands behind me. So if you go against me, you go against the church. And good luck going against the seven Jesuses. Okay? See what happens to you? Then they all start backing up and he's like, oh yeah. Pulled the God card. Now they're all scared of me. Yeah. Nailing it. And they keep backing up and he's like, oh yeah. And another thing, you guys all better take bread and wine and pretend it's the body of somebody or you're all gonna go to hell. And they're like. But then
A
it becomes very Jurassic Parky. But he is so excited.
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Yeah.
A
Because like it's the first time that he's been able to be powerful all season. Because he's been all season he's just been in his little robe. He's like, I won't do this. Sandwiches. So now he's like, I am Aegon. Like he'd get gets. His voice gets deep. And by the way, credit to. I forget the name of the actor. I thought he's. I think he's been doing a tremendous job all season long. I mean he's been putting in such a great performance. A mix of like anger and like wanting like insolence and all these, he's all the emotions. I think he's been doing a great job. And then he gets to have this big like theater moment where he like speak, he Projects from his diaphragm. He's like, I am your king. And then. And then we do hear this Jurassic park moment. We see movement in the trees behind him. But he is. Is so excited about what he's saying. He doesn't even hear other people saying or other people's reactions. He's just like on adrenaline. And lo and behold, here comes here. Here comes Sunfire, who's like, looking a little. Sunfire is alive.
B
Busted. Yeah, they both busted, but alive.
A
Yeah, yeah, they.
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They both. They both have, like, kind of matching up faces. And so one's down on the ground yelling, and then Sunfire is like, don't worry, I'm here all cockeyed with you, buddy. My face looks like too. And I've also got a little blonde hair coming down from my hoodie. Let's kill these. He's like, oh, my God, Sunfire's alive. Dracaris. And then Sunfire burns everybody.
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Which is, of course, this is such a big deal because it's like, oh my God, some fire. Well, first of all, Sunfire's alive. How. But also, now Aegon has like, power again. This is gonna get around. Everyone's gonna find out that, like, Ray Ray was lying. Like, now is Aegon gonna beat, like, this is a whole disaster. Now Aemond loses his claim that what he was doing. Now Aemond is like, everyone's been lying to me. It's just gonna be a show. And then Ormond over there, like, when we were about to go to Ormond, Ormond is trying to make a claim like, hit. I mean, his. There's no way his claim is not gonna work now. Like, no, there's just no way. Now he is out of the running. But he doesn't know this yet. So he has brought Ulf over to, like, outside of Tumbleton to court him for dastardly things.
B
This. Oh, damn.
A
O.
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Why wouldn't I trust the alcoholic? Good for nothing doing everything for fame. I mean, why? So he shows up, they have a little private meeting, and we find out that they've been meeting for a long time. Because he's like, well, in our last meeting, you promised me a castle. Where's my castle? And he's like, oh, please. Why would you want a castle? I can give you all of Disneyland. You want that? How about you pick the biggest house in the entire kingdom? You can have that.
A
You want that?
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You can have it. And he's like, yeah, let's get rid of nearer this little funker.
A
Yeah, drink it for drift, Mark. So Ulfa's like we're gonna let it burn. You know, here's the. I will. I do have to say this. This is where the Targaryens are really up. They are not paying it forward. Alice was like, so can I got hiring hall whatever. And Ulf is like, can I get a cool place? Like whatever. And now these two people who they deemed as being too lowly are actually going to be the, the big problems from Al Ali. Ali. Alice, she is resuscitating Eamon. Like she's gonna keep him alive. She's gonna, she's gone to the other side. And now Ulf doing this like Targaryens, you gotta be smarter with your people management.
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Well, I don't think that Olf, you know, a little shithead Ulf was a before and he, he would be a traitor either way. And I think it's very normal to not let someone who just took over a dragon and is now fighting in your army to not go get shit faced and promise everybody in town all these favors you're going to do. Like Ulf needed to be not slapped necessarily, but like we've all seen army movies where they're like drop and give me 20. And then everybody in basic training is like crying and wanting to go home and then they're turned into fighting men, you know. Yeah. So I think that, not necessarily that they were training Ulf, but I think that this show's version of trying to like make Ulf man up and stop being like, like a drunk, you know, braggart idiot. So I didn't really mind Damon slapping him around that much because Ulf was a little annoying. Somebody needed to like daddy him. And Alice I think also had her issues before because she was using, you know, all of the head that she was doing to Damon was just to try and win Driftmark. I think she's like an old ghost or something, right? What is she?
A
She is, she is like hundreds of years old. But that being said, like the truth, the truth is that these people help them. And like I'm blanked on what I was going to say. But what I will say is that like when that, that Rhaenyra and Daemon, but especially Rhaenyra, she basically was like, I am up against the wall. I'm begging people to come help me come ride a dragon. And. And like she didn't seem to have any intention or plan to actually pay them back beyond saying like, well you got to ride a dragon. You have a dragon now. That's your payment and it's Kind of shitty. And what we've seen this season is that, like, she and Damon have become a bit up their ass about, like. Well, we're Targaryens. We're destined for something greater. Like, this is part of a. A greater prophecy. Like, we're of a different. We're of a different fabric. And it's like the same way that the High Towers are. And they're just like. Like, they. They sort of are like, yeah, well, people will help us. But of course they'll help us because, you know, we're of a. Like, they should be so honored that they were tapped by a Targaryen to assist. And the lesson here is you've gotta, like, you gotta mind after your people a little bit. And that's been her whole problem in this entire city.
B
It's military, ain't it?
A
That's the truth. That's the human condition. Yeah.
B
You know, they talk you up, and then, you know, when they don't need. Hospitals are maybe getting too real life.
A
But I was like, okay.
B
But anyway, you know. But also, as far as the. You know, the homes and stuff like that, they just got to work. Like, they just showed up, and the town doesn't even have. Or the kingdom doesn't even have any money to pay the people yet. It's like, they're not going to just give Ula house in the first week. Like, he has to kind of earn. You know, just because he rides a dry. They. They have to kind of earn it. It's like they show up in their first week, and they're like, where's my house? Where's my castle? It's like, we are at war. Do your. Do your thing. And then.
A
But you know what, though?
B
They.
A
They completely dismissed him his entire request. They should have said, we're gonna put you on a plan. We want. We want to see this sort of performance. We want this out of you. We want. We want to give you the castle, but we need to know that you're loyal, that you're not an opportunity opportunist. They could put it back on him, like, make him be motivated for it, because, like, I agree he's very entitled. And it's like, no, sir. Like, you don't just get to ask for anything. But they also should not be dismissive of the people that helped them when they were down at. At the hardest. Now, I'm not saying that I like Ulf, and I certainly am, like, really over Hugh, who, like, got. Who did what he was not supposed to do, which is go into that town. But I'm just saying they're. The Targaryens are really messing up with their people skills.
B
Yeah, I. Everyone's so rude on this show and nasty to each other that I guess I don't really think of that part as much as I think, like, train your staff. I mean, Jesus Christ, you can't just hand somebody a tank and then be like, okay, bye. Go have fun. Figure out the controls. Like, where's the training? Yeah, I need training segments where they're like, this is how you do it. And now you say, and that means go left, or whatever it is.
A
You just want Westeros basic training. You want boots, the Westeros version.
B
Well, I need that because otherwise they're just like, here's this huge weapon of mass destruction. Okay? You two, who have never had any training, you guys go together and protect this town and we'll just trust everything that's going on.
A
You know, I mean, I think we.
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We.
A
It's funny because I think last season we thought ULF was going to be more of, like, a folk hero. Like, everyone underestimated him. And then it turns out he can actually ride a dragon. And then there's, like, something going on with him that's, like, special. And then he's gonna be crafted into something wonderful. But then this season we're like, oh, he's just garbage. Just this garbage guy. And I sort of know what you're saying. Like, you almost want, like, that Matrix moment where, like, you are gonna be the one, but you need to be trained, you need to be molded, you need to learn the ways. Is like Karate Kid, the Matrix, all that. Like the whole kung fu kind of genre of like, you have to go on your journey. But then all of a sudden, their power crystallized and they realize they are actually great. But that's not coming from Wolf. From Ulf. No.
B
And it could have. I mean, he definitely has been misunderstood. Or miss. What was the first word you said? I misunderstood. But, like, people didn't give him enough. Enough credit, you know, Underestimated. He has been underestimated because now he's gonna just come try and burn a bunch of the other side with this dragon, which I guess he's just a gun for hire either way. So he's just gonna go for the. The biggest pot of gold he can get. But what a little shithead. Oh, and the way he smiles while giving the evil eye, too.
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Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. I mean, look, look, we're so invested in this treachery. So it's exciting. We only have one episode left, and then who knows how long it'll be for the final season. But we will be back here next week to break apart the season finale and. And figure out where it goes from there.
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Yep. Thanks for being with us, everybody. We'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye.
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Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: August 4, 2026
This episode of Watch What Crappens dives deep into the penultimate episode of House of the Dragon Season 3, affectionately nicknamed "Enter the Dragon." Ben and Ronnie bring their signature mix of sharp wit, Bravo-flavored snark, and genuine Thrones nerd-ery to break down all the power struggles, questionable queenly edits, serpentine betrayals, messy family dynamics, and the much-anticipated big dragon rumbles that make this installment one of the season’s most pivotal.
The episode opens with a dream sequence for Helaena, analyzed by Ben and Ronnie in their signature silly style (“Is she psychic? Is she just watching Love Island in her visions?”).
The hosts riff about the shifting opening credit tapestry and how hard it is (even after YouTube recaps) to keep track of what’s changed (16:50–18:19).
The hosts observe both the lack of people management by the Targaryens and their inability to reward those who helped them (“They need to train their staff!”).
Riff on Ulf and Alice being denied proper rewards and predict they will become major problems for the crown:
The hosts maintain their trademark acerbic, loving-mocking style—mixing recaps, deep Thrones knowledge, and biting but affectionate reality TV analogies. There’s constant humor, references to Bravo and Housewives, some mature jokes (incest plotlines, lesbian love scenes), and a healthy skepticism of both showrunners and in-universe politicians.
Ben and Ronnie conclude that despite the sometimes muddled or frustrating character arcs, this season has delivered huge set pieces and “mess” in its own way—reminding them (and listeners) why both Game of Thrones and reality TV are so fun to watch. They’re psyched and a little anxious for the season finale, ready to see just how much more chaos and treachery can unfold.
Next week: The SEASON FINALE recap!