Dwell Hello #311: A Singer and a Psychic Walk Into a Bar

Summary

Episode Summary: "Dwell Hello #311: A Singer and a Psychic Walk Into a Bar"

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Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Date: June 2, 2023

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Overview

In this hilarious, highly irreverent episode, Ben and Ronnie recap one of the wildest episodes of House Hunters International (“A Singer and a Psychic Walk Into a Bar”), following eccentric singer Norwood Young and psychic Debbie Craig as they hunt for a new home in Bangkok, Thailand. The hosts revel in the episode’s bizarre characters and over-the-top moments, delivering both sharp observations and affectionate mockery in their signature style. Along the way, they delve into Norwood’s flamboyant backstory, Debbie’s psychic sensibilities, and the unfiltered realism (and unreality) of both the house choices and Norwood’s ambitions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction and Episode Setup (00:44–03:13)

• The hosts set the tone for the recap—Ben: “This is a doozy today. This is a real doozy of a House Hunters episode... This was a crazy, crazy episode.” (01:17)
• Episode details clarified: Season numbering is confusing across different platforms, but search for “A Singer and a Psychic” to find it.

2. First Impressions of Norwood Young (03:13–06:50)

• Norwood’s over-the-top style: Described as having an “Elvis hair”, a cream-colored Matrix trench coat, spray-painted beard, and magician-blazer wardrobe. (03:13)
• Ben and Ronnie’s take on Norwood’s positivity: “This is my least favorite kind of singer. My favorite kind of singer is like an Adele—just honest and open depression in my singers.” – Ronnie (04:17)
• “Expiration dates on dreams”—Norwood’s own words about chasing music in Bangkok, which the hosts hilariously deconstruct.
• Norwood’s move to Bangkok is played up as a new opportunity but is undercut by the hosts’ recurring gags about his finances and career stage.

3. Norwood’s Backstory: The King of Hancock Park (10:45–14:34)

• Norwood’s Los Angeles mansion (dubbed “Youngwood Court”) and its notorious 20 Michelangelo’s David statues. Ronnie recounts his infamous neighborhood rep: “He is not lying—he is famous. His name is, in fact, Norwood Young...” (11:19)
• Ben recalls seeing the house lit up at night: “It was just like this big, bright spectacle. And you're like, what is this house?” (13:31)
• Norwood’s self-mythologizing tendencies are gently mocked: “You weren't jealous—you couldn't afford it anymore. Come on.” – Ronnie (14:00)

4. Enter Psychic Debbie: The Sidekick of the Century (16:52–18:47)

• Debbie Craig’s first appearance, instantly stealing scenes with her ambiguous accent and wild wardrobe: “She looks like if the Hamburglar needed a date to a ball.” – Ronnie (21:36)
• Ronnie reads five-star TripAdvisor reviews for Debbie’s psychic services in Bangkok (17:46). Satirical surprise at the positivity: “I was expecting crazy face, crazy hooker…” – Ronnie

5. Reactions to the Realtor & the Bangkok Property Market (18:47–23:11)

• Realtor Diane Blackman: Stylish, increasingly exasperated, reminiscent of Blanche DuBois’s “descent into madness.”
• Norwood lists his needs—mainly, two bedrooms (one for his vast wardrobe), affordable rent, “special energy,” and proximity to his music venue (“The Last Drop”).
• The hosts constantly question the $2,000/month budget for Bangkok: “How in the world is $2000 on rent affordable?” – Ronnie (23:18)

6. Apartment Viewings and Psychic Hijinks (24:37–32:32)

• The first apartment is tiny with a bad living-room layout and not enough closet space. Debbie claims she gets “chills” from the good energy, conveniently aligning with what Norwood already wants (28:30).
• The duo’s banter about apartment function: “Where do we hang the TV? Because that's an important part of our life.” – Ronnie (27:58)
• Hosts posit that Norwood is likely storing wardrobe at the restaurant (30:18).

7. Norwood and Debbie’s Bizarre Friendship & Psychic Rituals (33:10–36:08)

• They highlight the platonic, “heterosexual” friendship between Norwood and Debbie, poking fun at the performativeness of their dynamic:

  “We actually are having a telepathic conversation.” – Debbie (34:51)

• Discussion of Debbie’s “childhood revelations” and psychic practices amidst shared jokes about her furniture and work attire.

8. Second and Third Apartments: Closet Dreams and Haunting Excuses (37:20–54:10)

• The second apartment: larger, two bedrooms, but far from the venue. Norwood suggests extravagant improvements (a “dry cleaner” clothes carousel), all in a tone the hosts mock as delusional. Debbie claims "old energy" needs to be cleared.
• The third (and most expensive) apartment: spacious loft, fancy features—but declared “haunted” by Debbie, offering Norwood a convenient excuse to reject it (48:17–53:35).
• Diane, the realtor, grows more unhinged as her efforts are foiled by psychic interventions (“What I’m going to need is for that psychic to stop fucking up my real estate listings.” – Ronnie, 42:12).

9. The Big Decision & Aftermath (54:10–55:45)

• Norwood picks the cheapest, smallest apartment:

  “Honestly, the worst one of all of them. But I knew. We knew he was going to go for it, right?” – Ben (54:10)

• His “enormous” wardrobe fits onto two tiny racks.

  “Somehow he made it work. Thank God he found space for those ten blazers.” – Ben (54:40)

• Norwood describes feeling “at home” in Bangkok, with only the “ghost” of his career watching him from a 25-year-old self-portrait in his bedroom (55:22).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Norwood’s Look:

  “He’s got a spray painted on beard and like veneers and his face is like, it’s pulled and plucked and everything. Like it is just like a mask.” – Ben (03:46)

• On Aspirational Delusion:

  “You weren’t jealous—you couldn’t afford it anymore. Come on.” – Ronnie (14:00)

• On Psychic Debbie:

  “She looks like if the Hamburglar needed a date to a ball, that’s what she would wear.” – Ronnie (21:36)
  “We actually are having a telepathic conversation.” – Debbie (34:51)
  “She does a great doo wop while she does it too.” – Ronnie (36:13)

• Mocking House Hunters Tropes:

  “Every beginning of a segment starts with a monologue from him. And he’s so ridiculous. He’s like, what I’ve always been on this earth to do is to teach people through music to change the world with my voice, to transform every child, every flower, every little doll on the sofa with my voice.” – Ronnie (42:24)

• On Apartment Picking Logic:

  “So, of course, house number three... he’s like, oh, well, that place was haunted. It was absolutely beautiful and opulent, but it was haunted, so I’m not touching it.” – Ben (53:08)

• On the Final Decor:

  “All he's put up is a huge poster of himself on the wall when he's like, 25, and he's like, I couldn't live any better than this... Now the only ghost watching me while I poop is the ghost of my career hanging on that wall.” – Ben (55:22)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:44–01:17: Introduction, housekeeping, explaining episode choice.
• 03:13–06:50: Ben and Ronnie paint Norwood’s first appearance and dissect his fashion/persona.
• 10:45–14:34: Norwood’s LA “King of Hancock Park” legacy discussed, with color from both hosts.
• 16:52–18:47: Psychic Debbie’s arrival—hosts react to her style and online reviews.
• 24:37–32:32: First apartment viewing—closet and TV placement woes, psychic “energy” reading.
• 37:20–41:08: The second, retro apartment—delusions of grandeur, TV wall debates, Debbie claims “old energy.”
• 48:17–53:35: Third apartment—haunted claims, hidden crawlspace, open-bathroom weirdness, realtor’s despair.
• 54:10–55:45: The big reveal—Norwood moves into the cheapest apartment, meager wardrobe setup, ending comments.

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Tone and Takeaway

Ben and Ronnie’s tone is sardonic yet ultimately affectionate—they “mock because they love.” This episode skewers the unreality and posturing of house-hunting reality TV, while also celebrating the unforgettable characters of Norwood and Debbie. The hosts repeatedly riff on the gap between Norwood’s self-image and reality, the absurdity of high-drama psychic energy readings in property shopping, and classic Bravo-adjacent spectacle.

For anyone who loves over-the-top reality TV and sharp-witted recaps, this episode is a must-listen—a blend of verbal eye-rolls, obscure references, and loving evisceration.

Transcript

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[A]

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[C]

Well, hello, Benoons.

[A]

Oh my goodness. Hi. This is. Yes, this is our Wondery Plus House Hunters episode or show. And wow, this is a doozy today. This is a real doozy of a House Hunters episode. House Hunters international episode. We are A singer and a psychic walk into a bar, which on Discovery plus is season 147, episode 15, and it's pretty wild. It also may be listed as a singer and a psychic, not a singer and a psychic walk into a bar. But one of our listeners recommended this to us. I'm so sorry, I lost track of who it was. But thank you for recommending. This was. This was a crazy, crazy episode. What did you think, Ronnie?

[C]

This was hilarious. It was such a good episode. I mean, I was sending Ben screenshots of just. The people in it are so crazy. Really interesting episode also. It is also on Max. So those of you who have, you know, realized what's happened with hbo. There's no more HBO Max anymore. Now it's just Max. And Max owns, I don't know, it's all these conglomerates, but they are apparently own. Everything Discovery plus owned. So now Discovery plus is Max. So download Max. You can find it there too. Same episode, season 147, episode five. Right. I wrote episode 15. I think I got that.

[A]

I think it's episode 15. Well, it's weird because, well, it was listed as something else on. On hgtv, but it's listed as something else on this. Who knows?

[C]

Just look for confusing.

[A]

So annoying.

[C]

If you just go into Max Or Discovery plus, just go into the search bar and type in a singer and a psychic and you'll see the episode pop right up.

[A]

It'll pop right up. You can't miss it. In fact, like literally you can't miss it. And I mean that in all, all meanings of the phrase. Like you will see the faces and you'll go, whoa. But you'll also like, you cannot miss this episode because it was so bizarre. So let's dive into it, shall we?

[C]

We open with a singer, okay. And he's wearing tinted glasses and cream colored matrix trench coat and like patterned cream pants. But it's like the daytime and it looks like a rec center and he's got kind of Elvis hair and he's got this backup singer who looks like she's played by Amy Poehler. And like, I'm not a regular mom. I'm a cool mom. Mean girls, but even a crazier face than that. It's like if Jennifer Coolidge was doing an impersonation of Amy Poehler playing that character.

[A]

And this guy has like a spray painted on beard and like veneers and his face is like it's, it's pulled, it's pulled and plucked and everything. Like it is just like a mask. And he's singing in front of a sign like you said during the daytime. And it's like there's a sign behind him that says the Norwood Young experience with the Hollywood Soul band. And he's just in his cream get up, just sort of singing some song with this girl next to him being just sort of like drifting back and forth.

[C]

And the song he's singing is it's gonna be a gorgeous day today. So he's a liar because he's just that kind of person who's going to like sing some false positivity into your ears. So this is my least favorite kind of singer. My favorite kind of singer is like an Adele who's just like, I'm extremely depressed. You hurt my feelings 20 years ago and I'm never getting over it. I'm going to be writing albums about it songs and doing concerts about it for the rest of our natural lives. That's what I like. I like honest and open depression in my singers.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. So Linda, Linda has very little patience for this man in this episode. She is really like Linda's vibe this episode, Linda the narrator, her vibe is basically like, are, are you guys watching this also? Are you people at home watching this? Because I'm doing the narration for this show and this isn't the craziest shit I've ever seen on this show, and I've been doing it for 20 years.

[C]

She's like, norwood is hoping to revive his singing career in Bangkok, Thailand. And Norwood's like, yeah, in America, there are expiration dates on dreams. When you do what I do, I got news for you, okay? There's expiration. Expiration dates on everything. It's life. Life is an expiration date. We are all cartons of milk just waiting to turn into cheese that nobody wants any part of.

[A]

Expiration dates serve a purpose, actually. They are there to tell us when something is rancid and sour and, like, bad for consumption. So please, please mind your expiration date. Yes.

[C]

Humans, like expired food, are eventually mulched, so just get the fuck used to it. Mulch like anybody else. Turn to mulch like anybody else know.

[A]

In the dream, and how dare I even say it? Maybe even the face has expired. Okay?

[C]

So he's like, yeah. And coming to Bangkok gave me an opportunity to what, fight a motorcycle gang? Because they show him. They're like, he gave me an opportunity. And it cuts because in Bangkok, everyone's on a Vespa, you know? And it's not just a Vespa. It's like a Vespa with, like, four people on it, you know? Or a baby. My favorite are the shots. I didn't see any in this episode, but my favorite are shots when they show Vespa cultures. Because I love a Vespa, you know, I used to drive one for years, and I love all the things you can put on a Vespa. I used to have, like, three gigantic bags of laundry bungee corded to my Vespa still on my Insta, if you want to see it. And I love seeing, like, entire families on a Vespa, like, with a baby hanging off the back.

[A]

Oh, let me tell you something. I rode on a Vespa in Bangkok, okay? And it was the most terrifying thing. I was on the back of that thing, you know, like hitching a ride to go to a market. And we were in between, like, trucks. That was like. Like I. I was at. All. My limbs were tight around. I was clutching that driver. When it was done, the driver looked at me, and he was like, is this your first time? I was like, how could you tell? He's like. You were squeezing me so hard. I was clutching him. I was so afraid of falling off or getting hit by a truck.

[C]

Jesus Christ. Imagining you on a. On a Vespa almost killed me.

[A]

No, you don't want to see that. It's not my natural habit.

[C]

I tried to get Ben to ride on my Vespa. He would never come on it with me. And then as I would leave, I would look in the rear view, little side mirrors, or whether not the rear view mirrors, but a little side mirror. And Ben would just be looking at me like, with a small shake in.

[A]

His head, like, no, no, I'm going to get killed.

[C]

So then Norwood continues. So, you know, my resolution to not expiring is coming to Bangkok where you can sing in bars until you're shitting yourself. Okay. Literally during your set, I'm going to be singing as I shit myself. So come on, everybody. Doesn't it sound good?

[A]

They always say the key to getting back on the top of the the Billboard 100 is to start singing in cafes in Bangkok. Yeah. So by the way, he's also Hollywood in the title.

[C]

You know what I mean? I feel like that's a very. Like, that's when you move to another country and you just want to seem fancy. You're like, it's Ronnie, the Hollywood waiter. I know.

[A]

And he's got, by the way, his blazer. When he's talking, it's like this. It's a black blazer, but the lapels are full of magician imagery. There's like a card and there's like a top hat and there's like fanciful prestigation elements. On was a look.

[C]

It's a lot now every year for our crappy awards, you know, it's our big award show. Every year I go on Amazon and I type in the word glitter jacket and I just get whatever comes up. And that's his entire wardrobe. Yeah, okay. I'm like, are you singing? Are you cutting people in half? Like, what are you doing? What. What is this career?

[A]

What is happening here? So Linda's like, he's armed with big dreams and a bigger personality, but. And then it just cuts to him like. Like turning on a faucet and brown water comes out. Which, by the way, did we even see that in the episode.

[C]

We didn't. I don't even remember seeing it this. There you go. But we do see him singing a long opera note because he's in a loft style place. And he goes, oh, look how high those ceilings are. Thank you. And then he goes, sookie, sookie, now, baby. I was like, okay. All right. And let me tell you one thing that Linda hates more than anything. You can hear it in her voice. He's got big dreams and an Even bigger personality. Linda hates a big personality. Okay? You're lucky Linda isn't allowed to carry while she's narrating this show, because she probably would have aimed at you.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

She hates big personalities.

[A]

She. She's like, know your place? This is House Hunters. Indoor voices only. And he's like, this guy. So.

[C]

And then we see Amy Polar face going, there's spirits in this particular building. Now, does she have an. What is her.

[A]

Her accent sounded vaguely Irish. I couldn't really.

[C]

I thought she was, like, maybe Russian in the beginning, but then she was American, but then she was German, and then she was, like, American again. So I think she's one of who just travels around and then tries because, you know, she's a psychic, we find out. So I think she's just trying to seem mysterious by, like, talking like that. She'll be like, I. You know what? I do read cards. Very important.

[A]

She's probably from Pensacola. So now we get the opening credits, and we see Norwood striking a gong type thing with a big sort of like a big mallet type thing. And Norwood's like, when I was 16 and a half is when I signed my first recording deal. And after that, I had moderate success from the first album, and I just started going around the world touring. And after that is when I bought the house in Los Angeles where I was dubbed the King of Hancock park, which, by the way, like, lol to give yourself that name. The King of Hancock park, girl.

[C]

Okay? So I had to, of course, Google this. And he is not lying. He is famous. His name is, in fact, Norwood Young. He's on Star Search, article in Curbed, and he's standing in front of this house, which is tacky as hell. Okay? So listen to this. If you lived in Los angeles between the mid-1990s and 2011 or so, you'll likely remember Youngwood Court, aka the House of the Davids in Hancock Park. Its owner, Norwood Young, drew ire from neighbors when he bought the place. Removed a row of juniper trees, placed 16 statues of Michelangelo's David on column pedestals in the yard. There were 20 of them, all told on the property and painted the whole thing stark white. In the same neighborhood where a cross was burned in Nat King Cole's yard. It was impossible not to see racism afoot. When the neighbors filed a court case against Norwood's home improvements, TV crews showed up his door, and Johnnie Cochran called and offered to defend him. The day before, Norwood Young was interviewed to be featured in Nest, the beloved and eccentric magazine of interiors. He and his assistant were shopping for Halloween decorations for a last minute blowout. He decided to host. He dropped about $1,500, he recalls. But before he could leave the store, they had been handcuffed and taken to the local police station. Someone had called the cops on the King of Hancock park because he was told he met the description of someone in the area doing credit card fraud. Young estimates he lost nine hours in to that incident. Crucial party planning time. And he'd always thrown big parties. He barely had time to give quotes for the NEST story. This. This story is written hilariously too, right?

[A]

Well, I just love how it goes from actually like something really like, up and like, so sad about. About the neighborhood, American culture, etc, but.

[C]

Then Cole, for Christ's sake, it goes from Matt King Cole to. And he was planning a party and.

[A]

His party didn't really happen as big as he wanted it, and he couldn't really give quotes to nest.

[C]

But you're right, that's what makes it so silly.

[A]

Do you remember this house, Ronnie? Do you ever remember driving by?

[C]

I don't.

[A]

I remember driving by. It was on 3rd Street. And you drive by at night, you especially notice it at night because he had all these spotlights on these. On these statues. And it was just like this big, bright spectacle. And you're like, what is this house? But like, I never knew who. Who lived there. And I remember hearing that it was like a singer, an eccentric guy or whatever. But now seeing this episode, it makes total sense, like, oh, this is the guy. And it was a long time ago because he. I think he sold it in 2011.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is. The article says 2011. So. Yeah. It also goes on to say that he had a lot of. He lived. I'll summarize the rest because I know it's a lot, but he wrote a book about coming to terms with childhood trauma and went through a healing journey, reversed multiple plastic surgeries and wrote a book called Getting Back to my Me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And he used to, according to Amazon, the true story of a former Star Search contestant, a man who seemingly had it all. Dun, dun, dun.

[A]

Yeah, he's an interesting character, to say the least.

[C]

Character.

[A]

He's a character. So he's like. He talks about this right here and he says, you know, because I lived in a very prestigious house that I called Young Wood Court, and I put up 20 statues of Michelangelo's David and I loved it, but it was upstaging me. Everyone was more interested in what my house looked like. And the reality is, I Was jealous of the damn house. You weren't jealous. You couldn't afford it anymore. Come on.

[C]

I love that he just laughs. He cracks up at himself all the time, too, which we have in common. So, like, I know. So he's like, well, the house had to go or the music had to go, and the music going is not an option. So then they go to a big bell park. I'm sure it's very famous, but I'm ignorant and have never been to Bangkok. So I just have to say there's a lot of bells, and it looks very historical. And he just walks around digging each bell one by one, and he is that fucking person in the store that sees a bell and just has to ding it. Okay? We all know this person. They've. We've been in the home goods with this person where the office section happens to have those little hotel bells. And there's always that guy who walks up and dings every fucking bell in the store.

[A]

It's true. But also, this was such a shady edit because they show him, like, ringing these random bells. And Linda goes, so Norwood sold everything to perform worldwide, and they just show him clanking bells, like. And this is his show. Does anyone want to buy tickets? Just a man ringing bells outdoors in a park.

[C]

Good luck with bell choir. Wow. Congratulation, Norwood, king of the bell choir. Dong, dong, dong dong. Missed one. So.

[A]

Criticizing. Criticizing his bell performance.

[C]

She's just ripping apart his bell performance, Linda.

[A]

So. And on a stint in Asia, his inspiration struck for him. So Norwood says, well, because I am an amazing cook of soul food. A light went off, and I said, hollywood soul supper club. And I had a friend who happened to say to me, hey, I'm in Bangkok, and you would absolutely love it. And there's nobody here like you. Nobody who has looks like a crazy, crazy person like you do.

[C]

Yeah. And Debbie is like, you know, I'm sorry. I got lost in my notes. She's like, you know, I'm a psychic, and I've been here 15 years. No, I love the cosmopolitan atmosphere of it. As a psychic, medium, and healer, I love working in Bangkok because Thailand is one of the most haunted countries in the world.

[A]

Oh, this woman is. So now we have Norwood. It's like Norwood on his own is crazy. And then the fact that he. He is here with this woman. Debbie Craig. C R E G G h. I'm Debbie Craig, the psychic of the world in the haunted country of Thailand. I was like, oh, my God. This show's only 30 seconds old. And I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

[C]

I know it's gonna be our first 12 hour recap. Okay, so Debbie Craig. I'm looking her up now because how can you not? She's listed on TripAdvisor. Debbie Craig International psychic medium in Bangkok. Let's see, she's got some reviews here. Suggested duration one to two hours. Okay. She's got good reviews. She's got five stars. Wow. Everybody gives her a five. I really like the one, the one star reviews, but I'm just going to pick a random fiver. The best choice I made was getting in touch with Debbie. She is the best psychic out there. I felt the positivity and bliss once I got done with the reading. She was so gentle and fun throughout the reading. Anyone looking for guidance through their journey should most definitely choose Debbie. Wow. Debbie. I was expecting crazy face, crazy hooker would not get off my rattan furniture and spreading her cards all over the place like she was like, she was a dealer in Vegas.

[A]

I know all the photos of her doing it was on rattan furniture. So Norwood and Debbie go to see the realtor and Debbie dresses up like Beetlejuice with like a little cherry brioche for no reason, big black and white stripes. And they sit down with a local realtor whose name was Diane Blackman. I was not expecting that name. I was expecting maybe a more traditionally Thai name, but it was Diane Blackman.

[C]

I would like to give Diane credit for being the best dressed realtor I've ever seen on this show. I love stylish, classy, well put together person on this show. Wow.

[A]

I loved Diane's Tennessee, William esque descent into madness over the course of this episode. Like, she was definitely like, what's her face? Streetcar Named Desire, Blanche or whatever.

[C]

Blanche dubois.

[A]

Blanche dubois. I mean, she was sorry that the episode plucky and happy and by the end she was like, I almost had it. I almost had him in a place. He almost bought it.

[B]

Why.

[A]

That other woman ruined it all for me.

[C]

So they're looking at tall buildings and there's a fact. After we hear from Debbie, we see fact come up on the screen. It says fact. Buildings often feature spirit houses to protect against negative energies. And then we cut to Norwood saying, I'm very spiritual, so I'm paranoid about ghosts. Can someone make this make sense? Spirit. A spirit is a ghost, you ding dong. Okay, if you're very spiritual, guess what? You're about to be sooner than the Rest of us, Mr. Expiration Date.

[A]

I know a Ghost.

[C]

Okay. And he keeps saying, I don't want it. I don't want someone where anyone has died. You will probably die in the next apartment year. By the way, he's not that old. He's probably like 50. I'm.

[A]

I don't think he's 50.

[C]

I think he keeps talking about expiration dates, weights.

[A]

Okay. I think he's like in his 70s. I think he's 60s or 70s. Holding on. Oh, my God. Yes. Good for him.

[C]

Great throat.

[A]

The throat reveals all the secrets. But he's been around a while. Like when they show a picture of him, he's like, here's a picture of me signing. And it's. It's like the Vietnam war is happening in the background. He is definitely not 40 or 50, but so he. Yeah, he's talking about the spirits and stuff. And Diane is like, so the first challenge is, you know, Norwood's taste is legendary. I'll just say legendary, I guess. And so for me, as a real estate agent who is just coming out of really of a really hard time in my life, and I'm just looking forward to some normalcy. I just. I just know I have to step up. My game should be fine. Everything will be fine. It'll be totally easy.

[C]

Yeah. And let's see. Norwood is saying, don't make my house haunted. Debbie. Can we just talk more about Debbie's fashion? Because I just kept writing notes about it. Every time they showed her, she looks like if the hamburglar needed a date to a ball, that's what she would wear to be on the date. It's like a skin tight hamburglar dress with two cherries stitched onto the front of it. And then I swear to you, 10 different kinds of pearl necklace. She's got a pearl choker that's like four rows of pearls. And then she's got like 10 different strands of pearls. A lot of pearl necklaces. Debbie, we don't need your resume. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

It takes a special woman to upstage Norwood in the fashion department. But by God, Debbie did it. I'm telling you. So they are. Norbert's also talking about how he runs. He tells Diane. He goes, so, Diane, I run Norwood's Hollywood super soul brunches at the last drop on soy 22. And she goes, oh, wow. Wow. No idea what that is, but wow.

[C]

No idea. I'm way too classy to ever be in that place. And I will never be in that place. Okay. I can tell you right now, I do think it's really funny that he's basically retiring at a place called the Last Drop.

[A]

Might also represent his bank account. To be honest, I'm sort of getting that vibe. I'm getting that vibe. He's like, yeah, because a lot of this episode is about him talking about how he just sold this, like, mansion in Hancock park and is now doing his. His thing in Bangkok. That was like. That was 10 years ago. Like, this was the 2020 episode. That was nine or 10 years ago. He is. You sort of feel like this is like, the last. The last stop on the Norwood Express.

[C]

It's the last stop, last drop. Last drop at the last stop. So he's like, well, someplace close to the Last Drop would be the bomb, okay? And she's like, well, how many bedrooms? He goes, well, too, because I want. One is my closet. Because my wardrobe is vast and I want to spend around. And equally important is the energy of the place. Okay? Can I say Diane is a liar. She's well dressed. She's beautiful. She's really nice. She's a goddamn liar, okay? Because she said Bangkok is very affordable. How in the world is $2,000 on rent affordable? Wasn't this done in, like, 2012? When is this.

[A]

No, this was. No, this episode from 2020. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When Norman's like, oh, I just moved. It's like. Like, that was nine years ago. You sort of get the sense that. That this is the.

[C]

This is the rest of his money. This is it.

[A]

Yeah, like this, Right? And so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So Diane's like. She's like, yeah, well, I'm a little apprehensive. I mean, I. I don't have that psychic gift that Debbie has, so there's not much I can do here. But. But he wants a lot of storage. And the newer. The thing is that the newer the place is, the smaller it's going to be, which doesn't really make sense, but that's just what I'm going to tell them. So I guess we'll see what happens.

[C]

Modern people wear so. So many fewer clothes. Isn't crazy. So he's like, well, hey, I know this neighborhood. The Last drop is here. Wow, What a cosmopolitan neighborhood. It's very city. Like, it's like, you know why? Because you're in the city. You're, like, right into the downtown of a giant city named Bangkok.

[A]

You're. Guess what? Nor, you're in a metropolis. Like a raging. Notice how there's 45 motorcycles in the street right now, driving by you. And I keep saying that the entire time. It's so cosmopolitan. Wow. This feels cosmopolitan.

[C]

He's like, I love this building right here. This is a very beautiful building. And she goes, well, that's very serendipitous. He goes, serendipitous. Now, how is it serendipitous? And she goes, because this is the building I found for you. Well, we all know how this show works. If anybody doesn't want to hear the spoiler alert, if the truth is, Fast forward it 30 seconds, they know what? They already have the apartment when they are shopping.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

This is not a surprise. So I love that Norwood's acting like, hey, I'm a little psychic, too.

[A]

That was my thought. Also, I felt like he was actually trying to help Debbie's business by being like, I have a feeling about this place. And that way she could go up there and say, this feels right. I think you're going to choose this, you know?

[C]

Well, I think Debbie and Norwood have this secret rivalry with it. They're like frenemies. Because he's like, look at me. I'm psychic, too. It's not just Debbie. Call me if you want a real psychic reading. Ding, ding, ding, ding, wink, wink, wink. But then Debbie later, we see her singing backup in his band. So she's like, oh, really? Well, I'm also a singer, so would you like to hear me sing about it?

[A]

I love that he put his psychic in the band. Like, you know, someone said to Norwood, you know this. You know what you really need in this band? You really need a sidekick. Got it. Debbie, get in here. No, sidekick. Not psychic.

[C]

You know what? You know what people love when they're trying soul food for the first time? Crazy Amy Poehler face.

[A]

Okay, they did an Amy Polar psychic singing to them. Back up, back up. So this is a real episode, everyone, by the way. So they go into this in this apartment. You know, it's like a. I feel like this is a perfectly nice apartment. It feels. It's. It's small. It feels like a kind of a starter apartment or something like that.

[C]

Or like, if you're young, very ikea. You know, it's one of those new generic. New. Yeah, very generic looking. Cheap looking modern.

[A]

Yeah, cheap, but. But like, you know, it's fine. Antiseptic. It gets the job done. But they have. There's a black sofa in there, this big sort of pleather sofa, and. And they sit down on it, and let's act like we're having our Popcorn while watching tv. And he's, like, mimicking popcorn. He's like, being a total ham and everything. But actually, when you look at the layout of the. The room, the. It's a narrow living space, and the couch has to face the doorway to the bedroom, and the TV has to face the bars, the. The bar stools at the bar. So if you're sitting on the couch to watch the tv, you're not aligned with the tv. The TV is aligned all the way to the left, and there's no fix for it. And that alone is a problem.

[C]

My favorite question that's ever been asked on this show was actually, I think, from our last episode that we did, where the lady said, where do we hang the tv? Because that's an important part of our life. I wonder so many times looking at houses, because I love to look at a house. I go, like, every other weekend to look at homes just for fun. I love it. Or when I'm watching home shows, people do not concentrate. That is the biggest part of our lives. Like, let's stop lying to ourselves. We need a place for the fucking flat screen. Okay, where is it? Where is it? Norwood?

[A]

Yeah. You can't put it. You can't put the flat screen in front of the door to your bedroom. Okay? So Debbie, though, she's like. She's like, oh, I got chills when I came in here. He's like, no, in a good way. In a good way. I got the chills of, like, I know you've already chosen this place, but this way, it makes me feel like I truly have a good psychic connection.

[C]

So, by the way, this apartment is as big as a fist, okay? It's very tiny. So he walks into the bedroom, and he goes, hmm. So first of all, this bed, very hard. So switch that out. You're gonna switch that out, right? She goes, okay, sure. Definitely. He goes, and this is the only closet space. Where else would it be hiding, dude? Okay, you've walked the three steps that this apartment is. Where else would it be, sir?

[A]

Okay, It's a teeny, tiny closet. And if. If truly his, like, major need is to have a huge amount of closet, so much closet space that you have to have a second bedroom for it. This is clearly not going to do well.

[C]

We find out a little bit later that he is actually the cook at this restaurant, I guess. Or at least for this day, because there is no soul food in Bangkok. He says, like, everything. I'm sorry, I'm skipping in notes. But no, it's just coming up now. Things are different in Bangkok. Like, they represent so many different cultures, but not soul food. So he. We see him at the restaurant actually training the staff on how to make the fried chicken. Like he's teaching them how to make. This is like his thing. So he's going to be the chef for soul food, but also the singer for soul food. So my point in telling you this early is I'll bet he's using that restaurant as his glitter jacket storage unit. I'll bet they've got like giant vats of oil and glitter jackets.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. The. I'm also working on a theory that he's just like a line cook at the kitchen and they let him come out and sing every now and then.

[C]

Right. That might be the fact too, because he ran out of all his Hancock park money.

[A]

Like, he clearly ran out of his money. And I kind of feel like this entire episode is just a charade to make it seem like he is, like, still living large. Because this place, by the way, is a thousand dollars. This is a thousand dollars below his budget. His budget is $2,000. So this one's a thousand dollars. And. And it's tiny and it does not have the closet space that he claims he really needs. And, but. And Diane's like, so the apartment's really small. And nor would notice that right away, but he put a lot of emphasis on the location. And this is so close to his venue. The last. The last drop. Is it? I'm. I'm not sure. And so hopefully this has as much creativity with the space as he does with everything else, including the life story.

[C]

Oh, really? How much creativity can he have? There's no space. There's literally nowhere to put your clothes. That's not a matter of creativity. It's a matter of construction. Okay. There's no footage. I mean, I say, I guess creativity, he could hang it above him and just sleep under it.

[A]

You know, having a dry cleaning rack, pull out sofa.

[C]

That's true. Make it a studio. Yeah, that's true.

[A]

You could do that.

[C]

You see, creativity did help in this situation.

[A]

You know what? I really. I have to thank Diane Blackman for giving me the guidance. So then.

[C]

So he's like, hey, Deb, do you think that there's a ghost in here that needs to be evicted or what? And she's like, well, when I walk into the big bedroom, there's a very nice, warm energy to it. I feel something very positive. I think it's gonna bring you luck.

[A]

And he's like, that's really small. And the issue is it really limits the closet space. So then Linda says, diane finds closets that rival the size of Norwin's. Norwood's personality. But. But I'm just gonna trail off because I thought I had more to say. I'll just say but. And you can guess the rest.

[C]

They're nowhere near as tacky. So then they go to a next place. It's like a temple garden of something, like a statue garden of.

[A]

That's like, on a rooftop, though. It's like maybe a little shrine on. On a rooftop.

[C]

Yeah, like a shrine. That's what I'm trying to say. Thank you. Yeah, there's all these shrines and stuff on a temple. So they're climbing up there, and there's a lot of flags and stuff. And she goes, oh, energy. The energy up here goes. Oh, yeah, the energy. You like the energy. It's good energy, right? She's to going, good energy. Well, thanks for not desecrating the church that you're entering, you dick.

[A]

I know. Thank you. So Norwood gives us some more backstory, and he says, when I first moved to Bangkok not too long ago, I spoke to a friend and they gave me a list of names. And I contacted Debbie via the Internet. I was like, if you didn't think this person was. Was of a different generation, just him saying, I contacted her via the Internet and we had a meeting, and it was like, two long lost relatives who had connected via the Internet.

[C]

And she's like, I, like, knew him, but I hadn't met him. And basically, we've been together ever since that one night. And he's like, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, we're not romantically linked. Can you believe it? I mean, a straight guy like me with a girl like this, not boning, it's like, come on now, Norwood.

[A]

Norwood, I know what people are thinking. No, we are not having sexual relations. I have decided not to say. He literally says, we wouldn't mess up our friendship that way. No, no. We have something that's different. And we wouldn't want our deeply heterosexual lust for each other to get in the way.

[C]

Devi's like, it's so beautifully heterosexual. You know, sometimes we'll annoy people because we'll be sitting there and I'll go, oh. And he'll go, girl. And I'll say, whoa. And he'll say, snap. And I'll say, sheesh. And he'll say, circle. Snap. And I'll say, up that one.

[A]

And then he'll say, football.

[C]

Touchdown.

[A]

Football. Touchdown. I'm so straight.

[C]

She says, we actually are having a telepathic conversation. Oh, okay. Debbie. Yeah, girl.

[A]

She just told me the score on ufc.

[C]

He goes, let's do it right now. So they do it. She goes, mmm. And he goes, girl. And they're like, yes, yes.

[A]

They start laughing, Norwood. So Debbie tells us, I am a psychic medium, and when I was a child, I saw things that other people didn't see, so I knew I was different. And when I realized how much insight I had that I could share it with others, I decided to do it as a profession and give people psychic readings as I sing to them in the backup of Norwood's band.

[C]

Yeah. And then we see a picture of her, and she is dressed like she's playing like some sort of fortune teller in a community theater play. And then she's sitting on this big, round rattan chair, and she takes the cards and she spreads them like a dealer at a casino all across the table.

[A]

Yeah, it was very renfair rattan. It was strange.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So Norwood's like, you know, it's more than a profession for her. I admire the fact that she helps guide people to a place that they can live their best life. Also, when we're short on buser, she does help clear the tables. It's really helpful.

[C]

She also feels a mean glass of wine. Gotta give it to Debbie.

[A]

She does a great doo wop while she does it too.

[C]

Yeah, she can really tell when you're thirsty for more water. So Debbie's like, yeah, I'm a comping Norwood, my bestie, on his journey to read the energy of places. And he goes, and make sure nobody died there. She goes, yeah, pretty much. The fear of dead people is odd coming from a senior citizen and someone who talks to dead people. Guys, at some point, we just have to be okay. We're all gonna die.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's like a bar scooper being afraid of poop. Like you scoop poop for a living. Like, Debbie literally talks to spirits, and she's enabling this fear of death in Norwood.

[A]

Yeah. So Diane's like, so, Norwood, tell me about your house in LA. And he goes, well, it was 23 rooms, and I never used any of them. And she goes, oh, great. Well, Norwood is a guy who knows exactly what he wants. He likes what he likes, I guess you could say. And, you know, someone's got to buy the magician blazers. So the strategy is just to give him what he wants. And he wants two bedrooms so I'm gonna give him a two bedroom, I guess. Wish me luck.

[C]

It's 1600 square feet. And that's very important because someone who moves from a house normally can't downsize so quickly. So you want something a little bit bigger. And then we see a shot of his previous house. Again, they are just basically mocking him at this point, whenever, whenever she looks confused, they just show that house. It's all white with all these columns of statues of David. And.

[A]

But also this idea that, like, she. He can't transition too quickly from a big house. I mean, it's been nine years. Like, I think it's time, I think it's time to accept the two bedroom lifestyle.

[C]

And for somebody who was sick of being upstaged by his house, he mentions it constantly, you know, so then he's like, oh, I know this neighborhood. This is where I source my fake diamonds. Because he's also wearing the diamond, a diamond in his ear the size of a baby. It's the biggest diamond I've ever seen in my life. And he's like, but it's just so far from the venue, you know, it's just so far. You know, what if I forget to lock up at night after I finish mopping the floors? What am I going to do?

[A]

He's like, well, well, maybe I can work out a transportation situation. So they go in and there's like hardwood floors. It's big, it's nice. There's suede sofas, which, you know, that's not practical to me for me. But like, it's, it's, it's, it's definitely roomier than the last place. So it's already.

[C]

He loves those sofas. He goes, oh, these are sofas or suede. Suede is lux. This is it. This is it. It's suede. That is not real suede. First of all, let's all just stop pretending, okay? No one's gonna put real suede in a rental.

[A]

No. And then Norwood goes, I feel like I walked into a time warp. Sir, I know you're not the one talking about time warps, okay? You are actively trying to turn back time with your face right now, okay?

[C]

So please, really, how do you think the apartment. Apartment feels? So he's being really wacky. He's like, oh, my God, not too many tall people sit on these sofas. Look at me. I can't even do it. Laughing. And Debbie's like, oh, this, this bed. Let's look at the bed. Oh, it's so comfortable. The energy is so nice. And he's like, yeah, really nice. However, you Know, it's time warpy. And she goes, yeah, and you're way too far from me. He goes, you're right, bestie.

[A]

Yeah. She's like, b. Which, by the way, Debbie, like, suspending reality here for a moment that he hasn't already chosen the place. Like, let the man have a place that's far away from you. That's okay. So then they, like, go. They start looking at the bedrooms. And so one bedroom they look at as a potential closet. And he's like, oh, yeah, this would be perfect, because could have put a mirror here, and then we could put a chandelier here. And he goes, in my old house, I had a carousel. You know, like the dry cleaners. Well, I guess it's more like. In my old job, I was at a dry. I worked at a dry cleaners. Anyway, you push a button and, like, all the clothes, just a carousel. So we could put that in. We could put a carousel in here. We could have a chair here, and we could just like, push a button and have champagne while the clothes go around our heads.

[C]

And then there's a little hole in the wall where you plug in the tv. Now, this place does have a wall for a tv, right? And so it's like the fitting. And Debbie gives it a dirty look, and she goes, oh, what should we do with that? I guess, and put a mirror in it, because it really doesn't look. I'm like, are you judging the TV hole? Debbie? Don't judge the tv.

[A]

Don't judge the TV hole. But I. I think what's so funny about this, too, is that they're talking about all these, like, lux upgrades are gonna do the house as if that's something that's, like, reasonable to do. It's, like, all very, like, posturing. Like, oh, and then we'll put a Lamborghini inside, and that'll look great. We can totally do that.

[C]

And she's like, well, the only concern I have is it's very old energy, not fresh energy. We'd need to clear this. We'd need to clear this.

[A]

Is it because Norwood is carrying around old VHS copies of his Star Search episodes.

[C]

No kidding. Picking up the old Ed McMahon from Norwood's mouth. Okay. That would be great.

[A]

Poor Norwood. So, yeah. So Diane's such assholes.

[C]

Norwood is actually, like, the most positive person. He's actually very lovely, I think we've ever seen on this show.

[A]

We're like, fuck this guy.

[C]

What were you working with the dry cleaner?

[A]

He's just so deluded.

[C]

You fucking Loser.

[A]

Yeah. Good luck installing that dry cleaner carousel onto this house you clearly can't afford. But it's kind of true. But, like, he does seem very lovely. Just very deluded, too, you know?

[C]

Yeah. And so Diane's like, yeah.

[A]

Diane's like, well, this place is kind of a steal. So I know the distance is not what he wants, but there's a balance that has to happen here. So what I'm gonna need is for that psychic to stop fucking up my real estate listings.

[C]

Okay, Now, I'll tell you one thing we are going to give Norwood more of than anybody else on this show because he's a star in the King of Hancock Park. We are going to give him yet another monologue. So then we cut to. Every beginning of a segment starts with a monologue from him. And he's so ridiculous. He's like, what I've always been on this earth to do is to teach people through music to change the world with my voice, to transform every child, every flower, every little doll on the sofa with my voice. I was like, oh, for Christ's sake, could you just get a studio and shut the fuck up already, dude?

[A]

They're like, norwood, grilled cheese for table four. Right on that. Right on that.

[C]

So, yeah, so now they're going to. Now this is the part where we see him teach the staff how to make fried chicken.

[A]

Yeah. And Linda's like, and now Norwood is following a friend's suggestion and moving from Los Angeles to Bangkok, where he plans to combine his love of music with his love of cooking. Because he's actually now just a cook. All right.

[C]

He's a fry cook who hums a lot. So here, let's. Let's check out.

[A]

He's combining his newfound love of harmonizing with the fry bath.

[C]

And so he's like, yes, I've shamelessly dubbed myself the ambassador of soul here in Bangkok. And then under him, his chiron says, norwood young ambassador of Seoul. And then Linda's like, unfortunately, this ambassador is having trouble negotiating a merger between size and distance and his house hunt. Stupid.

[A]

She literally mocks him. Unfortunately, this. Now I'm gonna have to ask the audience just to imagine me doing air quotes when I say, unfortunately, this ambassador is having trouble. Can you believe it? Hey, cousin Padma. He called himself an ambassador.

[C]

He really puts the ass an ambassador, doesn't he, everybody? So then we find out Diane's name. I didn't know it yet, so I was like, oh, she has a name. I was calling her real until now.

[A]

Diane Blackman.

[C]

Yeah, Diane Blackmon. So she's like, from the sense I'm getting, I think he's beginning to see that he's not gonna be able to have what he wants at this price point. So the next apartment is more expensive than he wants and it's spectacular. And my point in showing it to him is just to say, busboys live in pink buildings, managers live in lofts.

[A]

Oh my God, I just pulled a muscle in my stomach. Bus boys live in. Because this was the shame listing. There's every time on House Hunters or on any of these shows, there's the shame listing where they say, oh, okay, so you think you're gonna be real cute getting all these things. This is how much you have to pay. Okay, I'm not. This is not a realistic thing. I'm just here to shame you. Right?

[C]

Yeah. It's a good old property Brothers style where they're like, oh, let us show you a house that you can totally afford. And it's like $10 million. They're like, right, can't get that. But we can get you this hundred thousand dollar house and put $100,000 into it. And it'll look like this from far away, kind of maybe in a drawing.

[A]

We're twins, so they're in this neighborhood. And Norman's like, well, this is a ways away from the venue. And Diane goes, it's a 10 minute walk. I was like, diane's cracking. Diana's losing it.

[C]

Diane's. She's like, I've been in this skirt all day. Because sometimes they let them film over multiple days.

[A]

This is all day long they've been in this outfit. We know this because it's hard to. Because Debbie's still in her black and white hamburglar Beetlejuice outfit.

[C]

I think they only gave Norwood like four hours away from the restaurant. And so he's having to get this all in. And they're just exhausted at this point.

[A]

Debbie's like in a sweater. She's like, this is a one location look. It was like all the way up to her neck. She has like a pussy bow and everything. She's like, I can't. It's too hot and humid here. I can't be wearing this.

[C]

So he goes, yeah, this is a little far from the last drop. And she goes, it's a 10 minute walk. And he's like, that's very hot in the heat. Heat. That's very far in the heat. And she goes, okay, but you're close to a mall and a park. There's a food court. I mean, maybe you could work at the food court. You know, they have singers sometimes.

[A]

So Norwood's like, well, this area is very busy. You're in a city, you're in Bangkok. You are not, you're not in like rural Portland where people are walking.

[C]

You know, imagine a place 10 minutes from somebody's work, a walk that's 10 minutes and them complaining that it's too far. Do you want to live in the fry kitchen? Like, what do you want here, sir?

[A]

Look, I understand wanting to live very close to your venue, but when it's like a literal closet that you want to turn into a closet, you know, be okay with a 10 minute walk.

[C]

So also, I think you're right that he's actually a cook there, like a line cook who's maybe singing sometimes. Because soul Hollywood, soul Sunday brunch is a Sunday. You wouldn't need to be right on top of the venue if it was just on Sundays. So I have a feeling he's there.

[A]

Yeah. Why are you getting home at three in the morning, sir? So, so they go.

[C]

Yep, sex tourism. That sexual, that sex moverism. Some areas moving right into sex tourism.

[A]

Yeah, so they go in. So they go into this place, it's a lofty loftyle house. And they, they walk in and Debbie's already like, the energy around this area is just a bit strange. Feels weird. I wonder if this is going to be a very convenient excuse not to go for the most expensive house of the series of the show.

[C]

Also, it's ugly as. Okay, the energy, the energy. Let's talk about the furniture. Okay.

[A]

It was terrible.

[C]

There's like, it looked like. I'm trying to think of what style. It's like rococo chaise lounges. It's all too big and it's like a chaise lounge next to a couch, next to a bed next to, to a. I mean it's just hideous.

[A]

A lot of purples and blacks. And it's also narrow. It was a very narrow unit that they put mirrors on to make it seem like it was really wide, but it was just narrow and it was tall. But he like loves it because he sees tall ceilings.

[C]

So he's like, yeah, that's where he does his singing. And he's like, sookie, sookie now, baby. And then he, he's like, you know, listen, walking up to this, it's not the most wonderfully aesthetic thing and it's far from the venue, know, but it's fit for a king, fit for a heterosexual king, baby.

[A]

Fit for someone to have heterosexual sexual moments with ladies. Also when they walk in. Diane, I was watching this with Dom for anyone doesn't know Dom is my boyfriend. And when they walk into this place, because Dom was, like, horrified this whole episode, the entire episode, he was like, what?

[C]

No.

[A]

So when they walk into this place, this guy loses his mind. And then Diane goes, and, wait, there's a secret room? And then she, like, bends over, and Dom goes, please tell me when she says secret room, she did not bend over to access it. Please tell me she's not bending over to access the secret room.

[C]

This is where it got super creepy. And it was a mirror on the wall that you pull it open, and it's not a room. It's a crawl space under stairs. It's one of those. But it is really well hidden. And I was creeped the fuck out by it.

[A]

It's just like. It's like, no, everything was wrong. So. So then they go upstairs, and it's one of those. It's one of those places where the bedroom and the bathroom is. The bath is surrounded by glass, so no privacy. So you're lying in bed, and you see who's in the bathtub and vice versa.

[C]

Yeah. You know, and it's not done well. It's just clear walls. Okay. Now he keeps talking about how sexy it is because you can look into the city while you're taking a shower or a poop. Who wants to go sleep at somebody's house? I don't want to sleep with you if I have to go watch you poop after. Gross.

[A]

And just remember, the city can also look and see you doing all that stuff. So he's Norwood.

[C]

You know, He's a showman.

[A]

Yeah. Listen, he. He needs to be the star. So Debbie lies down onto, like, the bed, and she goes. It's got the heavier energy to it. So I definitely feel like there's some spirits in this particular building.

[B]

So.

[A]

And Diane's just watching and just trying not to laugh.

[C]

She's like, yeah, she's getting pissed because this chick is like, this apartment's like $200 more. So God knows what poor Diane would be getting out of it, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And she's like, this energy's bad. And he's like, really? She goes, yes, definitely. And Diane tells us, my heart is dropping out of my chest. I mean, she's just like. She said it's, like, paranoid and dark and a little bit heavy. I mean, he just almost moved in. This is what you were doing earlier in the episode. Yeah, almost had him.

[A]

Oh, I always rely on the comfort of real estate clients. So Linda's like, well, with no house offering the spiritual energy, location, and space that Norwood apparently needs, the wrong decision could turn his Bangkok dream into a nightmare. Oh, no. At least he always has his singing career to back up to, to have as a backup. That was supposed to be sarcasm before I bungled it.

[C]

His wrong decision could turn his Bangkok dream into Seoul Sunday. Otherwise known as a nightmare for the ears. Okay, don't anybody go there. It's terrible. I've been so. It's bedding time in a restaurant, so they get wacky drinks. Well, to us they're wacky because we're American. It looks like chocolate sundae in bell jars. Not really sure what they are, but I didn't look.

[A]

Maybe it was like a Thai coffee or something. So they're deliberating. And so of course, house number three, which is the one that he loved the most and had the space. He was just happiest there. But it's also the most expensive. He's like, oh, well, that place was haunted. It was absolutely beautiful and opulent, but it was haunted. So I'm not touching. With a ten foot pole. So how convenient that the most expensive one. He's like, oh, well, I would have gone for it, but unfortunately it's haunted, so I can't do it after all. Yeah.

[C]

He's like, I'm not pooping in front of all those ghosts. Looking through the clear walls. Off the list. So we love the retro one with the two bedrooms. Because he's a closet freak, guys. And so he could have a closet. And she's like, yeah, but, you know, there wasn't that vibrant or half price feeling to it.

[A]

So that one that's at $2,000, unfortunately, just the vibe was off. So guess what? Yeah, he went for the $1,000 one, which was like the. Honestly, the worst one of all of them. But I knew. But we knew he was gonna go for it, right?

[C]

Yeah, we knew it. And they're calling it a Mediterranean wonder, which is hilarious because there's nothing mediterranean about it.

[A]

I don't want.

[C]

I mean, it's pinkish, so I guess that that worked. But yeah, it's right around from Deb. So then we see him living his life, you know, Drum roll, please. And he. She's singing back up. He's like, it's gonna be a great day. And she's like, you're dead. You're all dead. I can see you.

[A]

And then we see what he's done with the place. And, you know, because he has this enormous, enormous wardrobe that must be accommodated. And then they go to his bedroom and he's put up, like, two little racks that has, like. They each have, like, five blazers on it. And it's like somehow he made it work. I was like, thank God he found space for those 10 blazers.

[C]

Oh. So he's like, it's great because if I cook till 3 in the morning, I'm home by 3:06 and I feel so at home in Bangkok. I was like, oh.

[A]

He goes, you know what? I'm a big fish in a big pond surrounded by a happy, positive people. Like, not so much about the big fish, but I am happier in a pond. So.

[C]

Yeah. And then we see his. What he's. How he's decorated, and all he's put up is a huge poster of himself on the wall when he's like, 25, and he's like, I couldn't live any better than this. It's wonderful. Now the only person watching now, the only ghost watching me while I poop is the ghost of my career hanging on that wall.

[A]

Oh, God, it was such a wacky episode. I really recommend people watch it. The guy does seem like a question. Yeah, thank you to whoever recommended that. The guy does seem like a sweetheart, but also just, like, off his rocker. And it was just. It was wild. What a wild episode.

[C]

Yeah. You don't give me sanity, nor would I have to say, but you seemed very nice. And the episode that popped up right after this looks funny too, because it's a lady from Tennessee who moves to Mexico and she's like, you know, people may give this place a lot of guff, but I'll tell you what, a root canal where I live is $2,000 and a root canal here, $500. I was like, you're moving for cheaper root canals.

[A]

I know.

[C]

The fuck is going on with your mouth, lady. Jesus.

[A]

I don't seem to remember root canal prices as being part of a Zillow page, but, you know, hey, I'm down for it. Anyway, thank you all for listening to this show and supporting us on Wonder. We appreciate it, and we will be back soon with another Dwell. Hello. Be sure to message us if you've got episode suggestions, because without you guys, we would not have had this episode. So thanks.

[C]

Thanks for that.

[A]

I'm sorry to the person who recommended it, whose name I forgot, but we'll try to give you credit down the line. So, anyway, thank you so much, everyone. Bye. Acast powers the world's best podcasts. Here's a show that we recommend.

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