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Hello. Well, hello and welcome to Dwell. Hello. I'm Ronnie and that's Benjamin over there. Hello, Ben.
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Hi, Ronnie. How are you?
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Good. What's been going on with you, baby?
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You know, another day, another, another day, another dollar, another dollar I'd like to put towards buying a. A house in a. In a beautiful grassy land like, like what we saw today on House Hunters. That's what I got to say.
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Well, this episode of Dwell. Hello. Is a recap of a very wonderful episode of House Hunters International that we both love and hold dear to our hearts. And it was suggested by you guys. And if it sounds like I am taking my time because I'm looking this episode up, that is exactly what's happening. But this is an episode of House Hunters International and it is called Head and Heart in Cumbria and It is season 156 and episode three according to Max, which is where we watched it. If you want to find these, the easiest way is just to search the title in the search bar in Max. Head and Heart in Cumbria. Okay.
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I think it's actually Head Hearted Head, Heart and Homecoming in Cumbria.
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In fact, well, there's two titles because this is this is House Hunters, so there's multiple titles and multiple episode numbers for everything that comes out of that channel because our organizational skills are about as good as ours are. So that's wild. You know, you might find it under any of those titles. But anyway, this was suggested to us by you guys. If you want to suggest something, just email us@watchgmail.com and use the subject line dwell. Hello, suggestions, and we'll find it. We get a lot of emails, so things get lost easily. Be sure to use the subject line dwell. Hello, suggestions. All right, all right, let's get into it. Ben.
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Let's do it. We open with Linda. Pru is back in her native England to start life over with help from her daughter Natalia, who seems just so disappointed to have to be here right now.
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So they're driving on an English road, and Prue's like, I can live life for me now, darling. And her daughter's like, you do, you hun. Now, this daughter is a very beautiful girl. I'm not going to say she's a very nice girl. She seems like she's negging her mom the whole time, but then we find out that she learned that from her mom because her mom is also begging her the whole time, which is kind of my favorite mother and daughter relationship. So it's kind of working for me. But there's something about. I feel like this daughter is like a service. It's like someone who works in a fancy store who's being mean to me. That's our personality. It's like a very snotty person working in a store where I'm like, I don't think you're allowed to be mean. Like, why are you being mean to me? You work here, but they're like, you're not good enough to be here. Are you really wearing those shoes into Nordstrom's?
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Prue is opening a bed and breakfast, but that's not the only problem she'll face in Cumbria. Spoiler alert, it rhymes with bentish tree. Okay, Pru, go have fun. Pru's looking around and she's like, oh, look at this room with this green ceiling. I think it's. It's like you think you're upside down after you've had four glasses of wine. It's like the grass is on the top and the floor ceilings on the bottom. Isn't it right?
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Right now the daughter's like, you don't get it, mother. Okay, so that's coming up. So then we're here. We're walking in the rain, it's rue. Natalia with her umbrella, it's overcast. And Natalia's like, have you ever been here before, Mother? Like when you were younger. Dinosaurs roamed the earth.
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Well, not in the rain. I'm not a monster, but I guess back then I didn't have a daughter who insisted I go onto a television show come rain or shine. Emphasis on the rain.
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I left England when I was in my 20s to go to Singapore with an English husband. I left him and then I got a Singapore husband and I had Natalia and ended up running my own advertising business. So it doesn't leave you really much time for family life, life, you know. But now I'm taking myself, taking time for myself because I've left the other husband too. Them both. That's what I say.
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You know, at school we had no option but to go out for the rain. You just had to get used to it. Oh, wow. How wonderful it must be for you to not have to deal with the hardships in life. You just had a wonderful mother who gave you everything. My sweet, sweet daughter. Now, do care to complain some more on my national television debut?
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And Natalia is telling us, I decided to come to England for university, like six years ago. Just enough time to get this phony accent down.
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I know sometimes she. She sounds American, sometimes she sounds British. I really don't know where she lands on this accent spectrum.
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Yeah, well, she's got. She's got a lot of, like, natural because, you know, she was raised by Peru and then she was raised in Singapore and now she lives in London. She's got a lot going on. Yeah, I'm just teasing. Yeah.
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So Prue is like, I've obviously missed her and I've been married for 29 years, but now is the time to go our separate ways, just like the Phil Collins song. So I think that I. That also helped decide that. That my time in Singapore would come to an end. Especially because my ex husband also happened to work very high up in the government and revoked my passport. So here I am back in Cumbria. Rainy, rainy Cumbria.
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You know it. As you get older, you wonder, which flag do I even salute at this point? And then you look at your husband's underarm flag and you say, I'm not saluting that one. I'm out of here. Do a push up every once in a while. There's some advice for you in the future, not that you'll be seeing me anymore.
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Goodbye.
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So. And then I was done with his ass. I know, but like, there's just something about prude that you just know that she is the one leaving the husbands. Like it's not the other way around. There's no like victim hood here or hurt feelings, Bruce. Like, yeah, I got married and then I was like that guy. And then I got married again and then I was like, this guy. I'm better than this and I love it. There's never an explanation. She's just like that guy. I'm a heartbreaker.
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Pru is a heartbreaker. Okay, yeah, Bruce.
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A badass.
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She is. I love her. So they're on a dock on a lake and Natalia is like, oh my God, stop it. It's beautiful.
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I just.
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What? This? That's picturesque. Oh, I forgot. I was just raised with it, so to me it's just normal. Oh, I just. I guess I just have Cumbria privilege, as they would say.
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So Prue's like, well, now I can afford to move. I've had to sell my house in Singapore as we were looking for where I wanted to end up. And you know, it's. It was a little bit difficult to sell because there was just an old man with flappy underarms sobbing in front of the house saying, please don't take my home. Quite hilarious really. You know, I just thought I just relisted it in the Zillow and said it comes with clown out front.
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Singapore, More like Singapore. Me. Anywho, I came back to England to fix everything in my life. So yes, memories of the childhood holidays in the Lake district came back to me. Maybe because I like the mountains and I like the water and I like the not ex husband here and Cumbria has all of that.
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Listen, I love mountains, I love water. But it was impossible to move into a crystal geyser water bottle. So here I am, London, England. Sorry.
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Lord knows I tried every time my ex husband was sought to speak, he'd.
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Say, had such a difficult time climaxing for so many years my move to a town called Cumbria. That's neither here nor there really.
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Well, I won't have a job anymore, so I'll need income. So I thought, how about I run a be breakfast? I get to meet people all the time and maybe them once in a while and I don't know, I've always stayed in a bnbs like this when we traveled and I thought I could do that.
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PR is just like opening a fresh supply of men's store. She's like, well, here's what I need a fresh supply of new penis. No, mother, not a gas station. McDonald's. No.
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My BNB which stands for boobs and buttocks. Looking for a future ex husband.
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So, Mother, what kind of men do you like? I like them. PP Bareback. Completely bareback, darling. Oh, an Airbnb might be fun.
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Speaking of. So now they're at the bar at a pub talking about what she wants and. And she goes, well, do we want ghosts? Do we want ghosts? Well, Mother, last time I checked, you were kind of the ghost to dad because that's what you did to him. That was a good one, my daughter.
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Just. Just stock that place full of a few new men and ghost them. Love your planning, brother. So it's like, well, how prepared am I to be in the hospitality business? Well, I'm quite terrified because I've never done it before, but I figure, you know, I'm quite demanding. And Natalia's laughing like, sorry for laughing at that, Mother. It's just, you know, talking about being picky when I've seen both of your exes.
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Yes. And I'm a bit finicky. You don't. You don't know how many times I made my poor ex husband cry when he bring me back was in bed. And I said, I don't eat that stupid man and throw it outside the window. Anywho. So I can. I can maintain standards and that need to be maintained. And I think it would be a beautiful idea. And she goes, yeah, she's a handful of. I have gone to a lot of.
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Therapy here to keep mother in check. So then we see footage of the place, you know, bright green fields mixed with, you know, little story. Story like houses. Storybook, like houses. And then we meet the biggest hater of a realtor we've ever had on this Keith. Keith does not hide his disdain at all. And Keith deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. I love Keith.
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Keith reminds me of that guy in Beverly Hills who stands around Rodeo Drive and like, wears like a big red jacket and a hat and it's like, I'm the mayor of Beverly Hills. He sort of has that look like, I once was the mayor of Beverly Hills and now I've been banished to Cumbria to let women with frizzy hair live out their dreams of opening B and B's. It's horrific.
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Yeah. He is dressed in a suit, you know, which is very old school.
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Like a three. Yeah, yeah.
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And he hates everything and everybody and his life and his town. And I love it. I love it for him. And this is him on tv, so this is him being nicer for the cameras. Could you imagine in real life? Just take It. You know what, Keith? I'm not really sure about this house. No one's sure about you. Just take the house. Do us all a favor. Find some walls to hide that face behind.
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You know that Keith. You know, when he's off the clock, he spends all of his leisure time drinking tea with his mother, reading the newspaper and listening as his mother says. It's gonna be quite a. Quite a warm day today. Absolutely. A very warm day. Should. Should I. I shouldn't dare to actually wear a coat today. Oh, I wouldn't wear a coat as the sun shall be out. That's very true. Very true.
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As my son. But my son never is, is he, Mother? Was that a joke? No, darling. Let's just enjoy our tea. Are you staring at something, darling? No, Mother, he's just staring at a pillow that he's dreaming of putting over her face.
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I dare say. There's a sparrow outside. A sparrow flew away. Oh, that's a shame.
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Did you hurt your neck trying to snap it around looking so quickly, Mother? Well, a little bit, darling. Mission accomplished.
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I hate my mother. And yet my destiny seems to be to find houses for avatars for her. And so I go on to Peru.
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Cumbria is in the northwest corner of England. The area is predominantly agricultural. It's most famous for the Lake District national park, which is now the World Heritage Site and has increased the tourism for World Heritage types. So there are many businesses in the hospitality sector, which helps push property prices higher, thankfully.
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Speaking of agricultural, here comes Prue. So now keep us in the something.
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That belongs in the ground.
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Oh, dear. They let a sheep get into the pub. Oh, never mind. It's Prue. Hello, Prue. So lovely to speak to you. What do you want in your quote unquote bnb? Boring.
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Boring and basic. That's all proof for you. Hello, Pru.
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Hello.
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I've brought my daughter Natalia. And he goes, oh, how influential is Natalia?
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Well, I would say towards most people in workplaces and men, not very. But in this case, we'll give them a throw of a bone.
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Natalia's like, well, before you answer that, so I've just moved to London, and when my mother told me she was moving to England, I was very excited. But, like, I think I'm going to be the voice of reason here.
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He's like, oh, like, goody, yes, you're going to be the mom and not this one.
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Oh.
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What I'm looking for is an old characterful house would be lovely. And so wish list, character, property. And Natalia's like, I kind of like modern. I kind of like glass. Easy maintenance, which, by the way, have you seen all the houses in this neighborhood? Everything's like a thatch roof and stone. Okay.
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And glass is not easy maintenance.
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Yeah.
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Who says? Whoever looks at glass and goes, you know what? There's some easy maintenance right there. No.
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She's like, no. When I say modern, I mean post, you know, 1400 B.C. okay. This is England. It's been around a while. And some of these places don't have windows. I just want one window for my mom.
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Yeah. And prayer is like, well, I need somewhere separate from the guest but with little tiny hidden doors in case there are Single Men's Day.
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I need a place where I can type on a typewriter and write my murder mystery about Cumbria. So, like, yes, it's going to need to be a BNB because I want to piss away the last of my money. So I've decided to open up a BNB and we need to move in and be running as soon as I find it.
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I just can't wait to get that steady flow of World Heritage visitors.
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I can't wait to get all those people who will say, I saw you on House Hunters International. Now show me some sheep.
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Well, I've been living in an island city for way too long, so I'd love to be in the remote countries. I'm very remote. I don't want anyone around except single men, customers by the truck full. Who wants to open an Airbnb in the middle of nowhere and a non.
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Tourist place, please, Wherever the tourists are, take me away from them. Put me by a waterfall. I just want to stare at it all day. So Natalia's like, well, it would be nice if you were in town. Quote, unquote town. Lol. Cumbria's version of a town. And she's like, no, I don't want to be in a town. I want to be isolated.
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There will be things to do and people to chat to. And Keith goes, yes, I think that's right. Why terrify a whole land full of animals when you could be out there terrifying pedestrians?
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It's important that they're boring people like you in our towns. That way people cherish the friendships they have even more.
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Without people like you in my town, I wouldn't feel so well dressed.
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Someone has to entertain Mother and I don't want it to be me anymore.
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Well, all right, but I don't want to spend more than $620,000. Because, Mother, for exactly what you wanted, why wouldn't you just push it a Little bit more. Can we at least see the places before you try and talk her into spending more money? I mean, you're kind of jumping the plot down here, lady. I know.
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She's. Hello. Who's buying? Girlfriend? Who's the one shopping here, me or you?
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So Prue is going to be quite testing to satisfy her marriage. Is anything to. If a marriage record is anything to guide us by. But they'll be jolly lucky to agree on whatever properties we find for them.
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Let's get going, shall we? She is quite testing to satisfy, as I'm sure any hairstylist would tell you, which would explain the current state of affairs. So they're driving and talking on the phone.
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I'm sure she'll be in another relationship quite soon. That will end just like all the others. It will be a split end.
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I don't want to find myself in hot water with. With pr, but if I did find myself in a hot oil treatment with her, that would not be so bad.
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So they're doing the old I'll drive you to properties, but you're not allowed to be in my car. Let's just speak on the phone, please.
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I'm carrying mother's hobby bird cages in the front seat and I don't want to move them any who. Clifton is a very historic feel to it. There's a battleground just the front of the property, which is the side of the last battle on English soil, which is exciting. And you can have a BNB there and look at the grass. She goes, ooh, that's a good story to spin for at the bnb. He's like, yes, yes, that's what we tell people. And hasn't worked yet. But who knows, maybe you can crack the code.
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Well, it's got a very pretty garden, doesn't it? And wait, is that a motorway I hear? Yes, pr. You're a block away from the goddamn freeway. Did you not notice when you turned.
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Off, he's like, it is a motorway, but once you put it a few times, you barely notice it. Almost like your voice. This is an up and running bnb. Four letting rooms in a private owner's apartment for. Wouldn't you guess it? Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you believe it? $620,000. The exact price of your budget. I wonder, would this be the one that you choose? Because it's such a strange number, such a specific number for budget. It's almost as if you knew this was going to be the one you'd pick all along.
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But the property is Old mother. That would mean a lot of repairs, a lot of maintenance. Where's the glass skyscraper I so crave for, Mommy? Well, why don't we find out what this place is when we go inside, shall we? So they do. And it's a cute little two story white bnb. And I thought this was very cute. I mean, I. I actually thought all of them in this episode were very cute, you know? Would I want to stay in any of them? Not really, but.
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Yeah, so that's. That's what I was thinking about.
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I.
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This was like, okay. I didn't love it, though. It felt shabby. It felt like a very small, shabby place. And like, I. If I. If this was the. The BNB I was staying in, I don't know, I'd be like, not my favorite, to be honest.
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Well, there's a wood burning furnace, some old furniture, and Pru is like, oh, this is cute. Am I allowed to sit? And he's like, well, it's the dining area. Please, do I mention your face? Kidding, kidding. Single proof. Single proof.
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Oh, well, mommy's gone awfully quiet for once. Quiet? Natalia, I brought you into this world, and I'm not afraid to take you out of it. Okay, moving on to the next room.
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This is so quaint. Look at this old corridor. It's quite tight, isn't it, Mother? That makes two of us.
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I just love an old corridor. It reminds me of what I pushed you through when I brought you into this world.
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And Keith is like, well, on the left we've got an owner's sitting room. So we see a little room with a fireplace and a wood burning furnace. And, you know, it's just like a little flat screen or whatever. And she's like, oh, look at that fireplace.
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Oh, that's so I can throw all the photos of my ex husband.
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So now they go check out the kitchen. And they like it. It's nice and large. And she's like, well, it's an old house. You've got secret corridors. Surely you can't avoid them. Oh, God, Natalia, why are you giving that look? And she's like, ew, gross. Everything's gross here. I just want a glass skyscraper, mother. And the fridge is so small. She's like, you're such a party poop.
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Yes. And there's like some concern that there you have to bring breakfast from the kitchen to the dining room through a long hallway. And she keeps on making comments like, ooh, how long until I smear the breakfast everywhere? It won't be long before the zeg's on the floor. Am I right, Natalia? Oh, look out for bacon. It's on the walls. Good old prude. Drop the breakfast again. Am I right? High five. High five.
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So now they look at one of the guest room and it's got like three single beds. And this one does look kind of sa. And Prue's like, well, what a big, big room. And he's like, well, they do all have en suite facilities, so there's that. Unfortunately, these people won't have the pleasure of their mother standing over them while they make a number two, saying, when are you going to be finished? It's my turn. It's my turn.
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It's called privacy, Mother. And, well, you know, the thing about this room is it reminds me of a little bit of my marriage. There are a few damp patches that hopefully we can get sorted before it's too late. Probably, though, if history tells us anything.
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Well, can't date forever, am I right?
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So then they go into, into into what would be her room, and it's completely self contained. And he's like, and I don't know if you noticed, but it has its own staircase, perfect for tossing old grannies down.
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Well, I did notice. Do you know why? Because I've got eyes on my head that can see stairs, sir, but thank you. Now, what's through there? Another little bedroom. Oh, I thought you had eyes on your head. That'll be an ensuite. Oh, right. Well, you're doing very well, aren't you? She goes, apart from it not being glass or a modern interior. Mother, what are you expecting?
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Like a Ms. Bandaro building in here? Settle down, Natalia.
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There's plenty of glass. Darling, look down at Keith's hand. Oh, God, I didn't know I was gripping it this hard. I'm bleeding. Got a stake in his hand.
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Imagining a life where every Tuesday night I don't have to do mother's toenails. So Pru's like, well, you know, my daughter and I, we butt heads quite a bit and we can read each other quite well. But I think she has to temper her views about what I'm looking for because I'm the mother in this situation and until she finds herself a Singaporean husband that she could divorce, I don't have to hear anything from her.
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And so Keith is like, well, what do you think? Well, it's answering my brief. I can see. I have my own private space. I like the guest rooms. It doesn't need a lot of doing. And Natalia's like, well, you say that, Mother, but then, you know, much like you do when you look at any of your husbands and you start factoring in the age. Well, listen, what am I going to do? What are we. What are we going to do? Just leave this one as well. Listen, it would probably need a lot of upkeep because it is very old. Well, who isn't?
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Well, we all have mothers. And so she's. Natalia's like, well, but also, don't forget, you can hear the motorway. That's true. Could we find a BNB where you can only arrive via parachute? Thank you so much.
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So then Keith is like, well, with Natalia, I think I have an ally. She's prepared to pressure mom into seeing the positive of something just like me.
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What a novel concept. A mother who sees things positively. I wish I could see that day this once in a while.
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I quite like Natalia. I can see us doing fun things together, like putting pillows over our mother's faces, pressing down until the screaming stops.
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And admiring squirrels walking through the park.
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So now Prune, Natalia are taking a walk on a bridge and Natalia's like, oh, I love how we're doing this in the rain. Very British. Well, you do need to look over, careful. It's shocking.
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Look over here. After 35 years away from England, Prue is leaning on her daughter Natalia to help her find a home in Cumbria so she can become a first time BNB owner. And also famously the worst reviewed one too.
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Mom is always thinking about other people. Like, she always puts other people's needs before herself. And this time around, she needs to do this for herself and just be selfish for a change. And I think I can help her do that as long as she picks exactly what I want. Stupid woman.
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And then they go to this, like, raging river. There's like rapids, water is going down. So it's like White River. White river rapids in the middle of Cumbria. And they're like, let's take a photo as close to it as possible. And let's let us scare all the viewers who think we might slip and be swept away. I'm like, please, can we. We just heard about what happened to the lady who was on Top Chef. Can we just take a step back from the rapids? Thank you.
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Oh, gosh. So then Pru's like, well, I've been running an advertising business for a while and now I'm ready to run a bed and breakfast because I like dick challenges and I like to conquer a challenge.
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I like Dick Spotted dick to serve at my bnb, of course. So so now Prue is pumbling on Natalia's phone. Someone taking their photo, actually, now. Now they're at that part where they're like, hold on, hold on. I've got. I've almost got the camera application on. Okay, what's this? This is Instagram. Is this. What's. What are these photos? What is this picture of you in a bikini? Mom, just go to the photo app. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay, selfie time. Photo with the rapids.
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Look at me.
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I'm a bird.
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A talking bird. That's hilarious. Watch me fly. Mom.
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Mom.
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Like one of those stupid Snapchat filters. Okay, so Bruce's like, well, here we are at the aerofoost waterfall. It's like me and my mom are very close. Yes, she's the most independent, strong, impulsive little character. Can't wait for her to go home.
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Here, look at the video we shot next to this raging waterfall. Wow. Here it is. 3, 2, 1. Go. Hello. Here we are at the waterfall. Wait, which is it on? Is it recording? Yes, mom, we're recording. Oh. Three, two, one. Hello. We're at a waterfall and reporting for duty. I've got a BNB inside the waterfall. Come join us.
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Natalia's like, here, this is the good one. This is the one I'm going to. But please don't post that of me. I look dreadful. You look amazing, Mother. It's just a picture of her. Like, I'm Natalia looking cute. It's like we're friends, but we approach things super differently. Like, our minds are like polar opposites. Like, I'm smiling, beautiful. And my mom's like this.
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My mom looks sometimes like she's a fly on a windshield. So now they're going to the next house, and Natalia's like, I can smell the outside in the car, and you can smell the farm. It's disgusting. And she's like, no, you're just imagining it. But also, I think I did step in the manure by that waterfall. So perhaps there's something to what you're saying.
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It's always easier to show people around properties they're on the same page about, so hopefully this will work a little bit better for these two.
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Keith hopes Natalia can convince her mom that stretching her savings for something more turnkey might help her relax. He also hopes his mom will allow him to watch Graham Norton once in a while.
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The area we're in is east of National Park. The Yorkshire Dales is still an area of outstanding natural beauty and one that random old tourists get lost in every year. No one can ever find them again. Natalia, I think this would be perfect for your mother.
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So they come to. This home has ivy all over the place. And Keith is like, this home is what we call new construction. It was built in 1872, so come on in.
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It's got five letting rooms, a private owner's apartment, and everything is perfectly ready to move into. Oh, here's a lovely bed for your mother. That's a wood chipper. Oh, I'm sorry. Inside voice. Inside voice.
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What a fun concept, a letting room. Be nice. If my mother let me do something once in a while.
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I would completely love being let some room.
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Especially when I'm trying to read my novels in the bathroom and she needs to get her mustache shaved.
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Well, I'm very scared, but I'm afraid because I didn't want to go over. Well, you said that you like the look of it, and Natalia likes to look of it, so you won't mind the price. $800,000. You poor, poor old soul. Why are you laughing?
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That's. That's way too high. That's way too high above my very specific budget of $620,000.
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Surely someone with the classy smell that you've got on you right now with that luxurious perfume can afford it. That's the cow dung I've stepped in at the waterfall.
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You would have thought. You thought that water would have washed everything away. And yet somehow a cow still did its business there.
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The national forest. Climbing cows everywhere. People come from all over to see them.
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The extended world we've created for these three people, this is one of our more richly populated recaps of house hunters.
B
But it's basically just the cast from below deck adventure. It's like Faye and the Shack. Gosh. Doing al hunters. It is. So she's like, well, I did promise to keep an open mind, so I guess, yes, I will try anal. So they walk in the entryway and it's. It's really nice. And they've done wacky things like paint the ceilings different color. Like, every room has a color theme.
A
This is the worst part of it.
B
This is a green one.
A
Yes. This is where she's like. If you look up, it's like the grass. If you have too many drinks, too many tippers, it's like you think the floor, you think the ground is above you and the sky is below you. Everything's gone topsy turvy, Much as it probably did when I left my husband of 29 years with a post it note and said, see you never.
B
And Then there's a blue themed room where things are blue. The ceiling is painted blue, and she's like, well, okay, well, in here. Never mind. Let's go look at the kitchen. Blue cabinets, white walls. Oh, look at all the fixtures. I would got a little.
A
I think you. I think you muted yourself, unfortunately.
B
Oh, you're right. I did. I had my thumb just hovering over.
A
You were overwhelmed with the sound of the song. You were overwhelmed with the excitement of the kitchen, the sights of the sounds. And Keith is like, what a lovely.
B
Kitchen we've got here. Well, it's very traditional. It's got two ovens to stick your head in when you're sick of Mother instead of just one.
A
And two hot plates, too, which you'll unfortunately have to use every single morning to make mother's farina. Oh, well, my granny used to have one. Maybe I need to get in touch with her to ask her how to cook on it. Are there any ghosts in here?
B
So now they should check out the dining room. And it's nice. And Natalia's like, hello, I'm here to give the Gen Z opinion. Whoa. This is got riz. Work. Work. I'm obsessed. Like, obsessed. I absolutely love. I cannot.
A
It's giving. It's giving luxury. It's giving bnb. It's giving. Hold on. My mother's calling out to interrupt your Gen Z moment. She's saying it's giving shingles. She's come down with it. I'm sorry, I have to go.
B
What I was going to say is it's giving brat summer.
A
Oh, my God. I can already see it now. Chapter Rowan and Charlie Xexsicx coming in here and enjoying a holiday in Mom's bnb.
B
All right, well, how perfect is this? The food's prepared just through there. You've got a short distance to come in through here to distribute the food. Barely have to walk and hold the plate at the same time so it won't be as mentally taxing as the other place.
A
Oh, no Bacon on the walls and eggs on the carpet. I suppose.
B
I mean, I feel right at home, mom, you look like queen priest out on your little throne. You just look so cute, Mother. And by so cute, I mean it's $800,000. Spend it. And don't make me look poor on.
A
National television at this point. Prue's, like, sitting on a chair in the corner, and they're, like, sitting at the table, and they're like, mother, you're just song in the corner. So Keith is like. And here. Here is your 800, 000 view, which is unlike my negative three dollar view of my mother's chin with this beard.
B
And it is a pretty view, but you really get spoiled quickly being around there because they really are in the country. So it's all green hills, you know what I mean? I feel like it's, it's always the view. It's not like somewhere where it's like, wow, there's like one little chance you're gonna get that view, you know, here it's literally everybody's you. I mean, it's Your view for $800,000, but it's also the sheep's view for free.
A
I just also want to interject and like, I want to book a vacation to Cumbria as soon as possible. This entire episode is gorgeous.
B
It really is. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's also beautiful. Like what's the view? You get that view. Literally everywhere they've gone has had that same view. So someone. Let me see, what are they saying? Definitely seem to be working together on this one. It feels like they're trying to segue my brain around to enjoying it.
A
It's like they're trying to throw mama from the train. And I'm mama. And this BNB is a train. So Keith is like, all right, now let's go look at some more letting rooms. And they go into, they go into a bathroom and there's like this, this random like this half tiled wall that's like intentional. And Natalia's like, oh my God, I like the bathroom. It's giving. I am dead. I am dead. It's beyond. And Keith is like, yes, yes, yes. An attractive being feeling. And like mother, you are blending in with the surrounding. It's almost a sign. God, what I would do to just have you invisible for one day in my life.
B
She just needs to like spoil herself. Like she's worked so hard all of her life. But then having said that, she's also extremely stubborn. Mother, what's another $200,000?
A
Now, by the way, of all the rooms in this house, these are, are this central landing, okay. This is the entrance to the owner's accommodation which is completely self contained and private. But unfortunately no private staircase. Oh yes. This is going to be a deal breaker. I love a stuff private staircase. Makes me feel like I'm in Webster.
B
Don't count it out just yet. Look, it's got a portal to heaven for mother. Where's that staircase?
A
Suppose I. Well, I would probably change the world. The colors of the Walls, probably, and have myself a blue ceiling. But apart from that it's really nice.
B
And she's like, well, I like it, mother, but you're obsessed, darling. Obsessed. I know, I've heard it's a beautiful house, views to die for.
A
Etc.
B
Etc. Etc. We're not all made of money, you and you didn't. Great.
A
So keeps like, well, Bruce says she's willing to compromise on the price, but I'm not sure that's really the case. But then again, if we look at her hair, she's not afraid of compromise, is she?
B
Really? Is it compromise or just zero effort? Time will tell. We've still got one more house to look at.
A
Compromise. Pet name I had for my ex husband.
B
So now we go to house number three and prude's like, look at these hills. Yes, we've seen them because they're everywhere. They're literally everywhere. And Natalia's like, oh, I remember when we first came to England and I said, why are these roads so dark? Do you remember, mother? Yes, countryside things, you guys.
A
I do remember when you said that. And that was the moment I said, I have a very dumb daughter. So you were 23, you had never heard of a street lamp before.
B
After 35 years in Singapore, it's a really big decision to move. I left my husband. I'm leaving my life behind. And really deep in my heart I knew. I knew the entire time I wasn't home home. So now I'm thinking when I get home to England, I actually feel like, well, I'm back here. I am back in Tokapore.
A
So, mother, have you got any worries though? It's like, oh, yes, as a BnB host is something of something I've never done before, but I have such clients. But is that the same as serving guests? I'm hoping. I don't know. And I guess, you know, I give my guests what I'd like and I figure I can live my life for me now. So guess what? Guess. You're going to get round the clock service of sardines. Sardines and more sardines.
B
And Natalia's like, you do you han? It's like, do you hate her or what? I really do feel like Natalia is just like, gross. Why do I have to be with this woman? Why did it take this woman to get me on television?
A
So now we have Linda again. I'm doing all the Linda lines. You do the Linda lines.
B
Prue seems to be willing to embrace some uncertainty moving to Cumbria. But Keith knows she would feel much more comfortable if she didn't have to stretch her savings as much as her skin's been stretched having children with men that she didn't love. So Keith is driving on the road and he's like, Lazenby is in the Eden Valley. Funnily enough, it's also what I've called my mother ever since she turned 30.
A
It's a peaceful, quiet area, much like the bathroom when mother's taking her nap. And also has a steam railway. You get quite a few visitors who are in who are train buffs, but no one who's actually buff, unfortunately.
B
Lots of people discussing trains endlessly.
A
Lots of train bus, but no one who's actually training nor buff.
B
I've the only person I've ever heard crave a train more than the people that come through this town.
A
Lots of train buffs come through here. A lot of people who have different ideas of the sort of engines they'd love to throw their mother in front of one day.
B
Anywho, I just want everyone in this town to know, if you're a train buff, come run a train on me.
A
Is it me or does it sort of smell like a train yard in here? Oh, must have stepped on something again. We in here.
B
Well, I suppose that means there'll be people traveling up and down that I could grab hold of, I guess, or push.
A
I'm going to adopt, abduct people. My bnb. I'd be like, guess what? Super rare train over here. Check out this caboose, if you know what I'm saying.
B
Guess what we're having for breakfast.
A
Rope. Guess who's working on the railroad. My vagina. Come and get it, boys.
B
All right, all right.
A
Too far.
B
Now we've gone too far. So they've arrived at the house and it's like a simple little house and it looks nice, but there's all these attached to brick garage type buildings or barn type buildings. And he's like, well, the house we're going to look at is a holiday let which can be converted back to a bed and breakfast if you so desire. Well, does all of this come with the house? All of these buildings and you're saying, no, the barns around us are not included? Well, what the. Dude, why would you bring me to a house but then I don't own all the garages? Like, who owns all the garages? That's weird.
A
And the barns, what about that town hall over there? Does that come with a bnb? No, that's. That's the town hall. And what about that pub? Do I Get that as well in the. I see. I see a nice little family over there. Do I own their house now, too? Do I. Do I own everyone's houses here?
B
No. One million burgers served. Is that mine? That belongs to McDonald's. Sounds handsome.
A
Who? Looks like there's an advertisement for a very famous deer here. Is that mine as well? That's Starbucks. It's a national brand. And no, you don't have that.
B
Well, it is only $580,000. I just figured I should show you at least one cheap, disgusting place that you could feel at home in.
A
And Natalia's, like, you could afford doing something a little bit more, you know, Mother. She goes, oh, try spending your inheritance. Deal. You're trying to spend your inheritance because, damn it, I forgot about that consideration.
B
Yeah, I'm surprised that she didn't get reminded of that and try and talk her into spending less money. It is kind of weird hearing somebody be like, mothers, you're so, so close to going to heaven. Are you sure you don't want to piss all your money away on a terrible idea of a business venture?
A
Well, here we go. There's no owner's suite in here, so you'll have to. You'll have to sit with your patrons here in the sitting room. And you can watch things like comedies like Dolores Claiborne or Misery. Just really anything with Kathy Bates, just watch it right in here.
B
It's just a big Kathy Bates stamp.
A
Well, her movies really speak to me. Aspirational films, really.
B
So they go to another room. It's like, whoa, look at this. Dining, sitting for the guests. And then what, Keith, tell me, would I have a sitting room? He goes, no, you'll have to share the space.
A
That sounds you. No, I was just thinking about what it would be like to share a space with many strangers. Is that titty lady go. Disgusting.
B
Nothing to add to that, actually, because I was thinking of how horrifying of a life that would be to live in a hotel where your living room is the lobby.
A
But listen, I don't think I'm a party pooper. Although I do think I may have stepped in some people, I think, you know, that someone had. I think, you know, someone had to say those things so it needed to be said. Whatever it was I did say, I said it. So there you go, America.
B
Well, then we come up to a spacious twin room. But the rooms in this property do not have on suites. There's a bucket in the middle of the hallway that everyone comes to squat. Sure. You'll find it as you most likely step into it within the first five minutes. Prue, seems to be your M.O.
A
At 9:30pm A cannon goes off and your guests have to play the Hunger Games in order to get to the toilet.
B
Well, that would mean renovation, Mother. How long would renovation take? How long would it take to build a room for the bucket to be in?
A
You know, Natalia is so negative about things. So what? People have to fight for their lives just to pee. That's okay. Some things. Some things, it's very helpful for me because it makes me stop and think.
B
And Prue, this would be your bedroom and next door is the bathroom. Well, I need to build a door so people don't see me while they're squatting over a bucket as I skip to my bathroom.
A
Or, Mother, we could just rebrand it as the Ghost of the Airbnb. And you could just go.
B
And they'll.
A
Feel like it's a very special experience.
B
Guys, now let's go look at the backyard. You're not going to believe what they have there. That's right. It's a nice view.
A
Oh, my God. I die.
B
Guys, when you are in a town where every view is stunning, there's nothing to do in this town. And it's not a good place to open an Airbnb. There. There's your advice for the day. Go forth. Yeah.
A
And so Keith is like, well, one thing that you could do is you could, instead of renovating it all at once, you could do the letting rooms piecemeal. Sort of like how I give my mother a little bit of poison every bit, every day.
B
I'm not a piecemeal kind of a girl. I'm a get it done kind of a girl. I mean, I haven't discounted it for sure, but it is a good price point. But no, I think this is much going to be like Natalia's father. We're leaving and we're not thinking.
A
Scratch it off the list, take all the photos of it and burn them. We're never going to talk about this again.
B
Dear home, thank you for having me, but I've realized my worth. Have fun dying alone, Sucker. So now they are discussing Holmes while whiskey tasting.
A
Yes, and so they are. They're drinking it. And so they. They're drinking the whiskey improves. Like, oh, this is disgusting. I think I'm having a hot flash. I'm going to be entering menopause any day. I. Right, Mother? Who are you trying to get quiet? I'm in a new town. No one needs to know.
B
Look at Mother. For once, acting like she's sniffing whiskey instead of everybody sniffing it on her breath.
A
Well, at least. At least it overpowers whatever it is that's on a shoe.
B
Hold on, darling. I'm going to go get us another thing of who is whiskey. Oh, God. Something's on the floor here. This needs to be cleaned up. Let cows in here now, darling.
A
Mother, if you're going to be opening up a bnb, you really have to pay attention to where you're walking.
B
Prue is starting the next chapter of her life by returning to her native England to run a bareback for the first time. But Natalia hopes her mother's stubborn side won't get in the way of a happy ending. Pun intended. Because she's looking for Dick.
A
Hasn't stopped me before. So they're looking at house number one and thinking about house number one, and Natalia's like, you know, although you like. You know, like you, like, loved it. And then you were speechless. I wasn't exactly obsessed with this charming cottage and the commute from the kitchen to the dining room. We all know how you have trouble balancing eggs.
B
And then let's talk about property number two. Well, I'm obsessed with it because it's expensive, Mother. Live a little. Spend some money, Mother.
A
And then. But what do you feel about the sheepy farmhouse that didn't even come with any bonus? Households from the village with it.
B
And they like that one, but it's too remote and it's kind of gross. So she's like, well, I think we should get rid of the sleep. The sheepy farmhouse, because there's an ensuite situation. And so they roulette house number three. So now it's between the one that's exactly her budget, $620,000, or the 800,001 that is apparently really expensive because it has color on the ceilings.
A
Well, it's also. It's much nicer on the inside. It really is like, it's well appointed. The kitchen's really nice. It's like, it's good to go, you know? And so. So then Natalia's like, well, it wasn't the charming cottage. It was an older property, and there were cracks in the walls and it was damp and there was mold growing everywhere. It was not unlike your relationship with Father. She's. Who are you being a party pooper again, Are you? A little bit.
B
Well, you know, I'm thinking the cheaper one. And Natalia's like, mom, that one's on the freeway. She's like, well, if we marketed it Properly, we could say it's very, very close to the motorway. I mean, surely you could walk from this B and be straight to a field. Another field. A field by a freeway. Another field by a freeway. I mean, think of the possibilities.
A
Here's what we do. We have our Airbnb right by the freeway, and we say, wow, we're. We're practically like a Meridian. We're practically like a. Oh, I guess I'd be median. I was gonna say we could call ourselves Le Meridian, but it's median, not Meridian. My entire pun has gone to shit.
B
Like, what's on my phone is like, wow, house number one. We're choosing a. Oh, Mother. It's so mediocre. And you deserve every bit of it. Thank you, darling. So we see three months later, and Pru's outside feeding dogs treats and stuff, and she's like, well, look at me back in England, and I'm home, and my home is treating me so beautifully, and I'm just so warm and cozy in it. And business has been really good, and I'm glad I put. I didn't go for the bells and whistles. Let's show a clip of how happy the customers are. And then we cut to a couple, and she goes, welcome in out of the cold. That's how I market it. You're not cold at the moment. And the guy's like, oh, well, thank you, I suppose.
A
Aren't you just so happy that it was such a short drive from the motorway to this Airbnb?
B
Do I smell something in here? Well, I'm sorry, I stepped on something.
A
I personally thought she should have gone for number two because it was nicer. And, like, the whole point is, you're running a BNB and you're going to recoup that money, hopefully by renting out these rooms. And it sounds kind of like it's a tourist area. You're going to have competition. So give some. Like, be in the place that gives you the best leg up to make that money back. I feel like she make.
B
My leg will be up. Don't you worry.
A
It will be open and up, but we'll see.
B
I agree with you. I was. I was surprised that she didn't take that one. But honestly, $200,000 isn't nothing.
A
I agree.
B
I mean, 180 grand is.
A
I agree. It's not nothing. It's not like these shows where they're like, okay, it's another $10,000. But I again, feel like she could probably recoup it, you know, the she I. I think she could recoup it, but either way, I forgot what I was gonna say about it. But she chose when. When it was. When it said the first house was $620,000. I was like, that's such a specific number for a budget. People are always 600 or 650. It's always the zeros or the 50s. But no one ever says 620,000. And there's one that's exactly on budget. I was like, that's weird. She's. She already selected this one before the show began. Conspiracy Theory. And you're muted. God.
B
Well, you're welcome. You just got a whole. A whole look at all that time. You just got me. Shut up. You know, you're just the mute button. That my self controlled mute button is the best thing to ever happen to me.
A
You were like, I can't believe Ben is just blatantly talking right over me right now.
B
I'm kidding. I was just nodding my head like, you go, girl. Yeah, but that is how the show works. They picked a. They picked the house first. So they. They already own that home. When they go.
A
Look at.
B
I'm sorry to shatter this for everybody, but I. I met a couple who was on there and they told me, well, that's at least how it worked for them. Who knows? Maybe they've changed it. This show has been on 97 years and there are 8 million episodes of it. So who knows? Maybe they change it up. But, you know, she had it picked up. But, like, at least be subtle about it. And if you've already picked it out, like, why would you cast people like Keith? I mean, Keith is just like, oh, God. Did he, like, stand in a casting line to get on there? I don't think so, because Keith is just like hating life. By the way. Keith needs to be. KE needs his own show.
A
Keith, who is amazing, and I definitely believe this was the highlight of his year, because now it's back to feeding his mother soup and trying to get peace and quiet in the bathroom away from her constant demands.
B
Oh, bless it. Well, I guess it's back to May I buy an E, Pat? I'll buy an E. All right, everybody, thank you so much for being here and thanks for being part of Wondery Plus. Okay, we will talk to you next time.
A
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Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode: Dwell Hello #415: Head, Heart and Homecoming in Cumbria
Original Air Date: July 25, 2024
In this delightfully irreverent episode of Dwell Hello, Ben and Ronnie recap a classic House Hunters International episode, “Head, Heart, and Homecoming in Cumbria.” The episode follows Prue, a spirited woman returning to England from Singapore, as she shops for a bed-and-breakfast property in the picturesque region of Cumbria, accompanied (begrudgingly) by her daughter Natalia. Ben and Ronnie bring their signature Bravo-inspired snark to the mother-daughter dynamic, the properties, and an unusually sardonic local realtor named Keith.
House #1: The Shabby BNB
House #2: The Turnkey Stunner
House #3: The ‘Deal’ with Drawbacks
Ben and Ronnie maintain their signature playful, sarcastic, and affectionate tone throughout. Their impressions, accents, and quick-witted banter bring the HGTV characters to exaggerated, hilarious life. The humor skews dark at times (mother-murder jokes, marital shade) but always within the safe, loving space typical to the podcast. They sprinkle the recap with references to Bravo culture, Gen Z slang ("it's got riz!"), and running gags about English eccentricities.
This episode is a pitch-perfect Watch What Crappens recap: heavy on character assassination (in love), with scene-stealing original asides. For listeners who haven’t watched House Hunters: Homecoming in Cumbria, Ben and Ronnie’s playful summary provides a vivid window—equal parts roast and homage—to the absurdity and heart that make both the show and podcast fan favorites.