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Welcome everyone. This is Gabriel Custodie. I am pleased in one sense to announce that there's a new product available on escapethetechnocracy.com, a little bit displeased that this has to exist, but it's called Nuclear War Survival Skills with Nuclear Event Video. And this is once again a collaboration with Steven Harris. And as the name suggests, the bundle this product includes the classic book by Cress and Kearney updated with thoughts from Stephen Harris called Nuclear War Survival Skills. We'll get into that in a moment. It also includes a more than two hour video of Stephen Harris, who's with me on this call right now, by the way, talking about some of the things you should and should not be looking at to acquire and some of the mindsets as well, for a nuclear event. And then there's a bonus episode on more general preparedness that Stephen Harris has put together. That one's over two hours as well. So as far as I'm concerned, this is one of the most effective, most knowledge dense pieces of information about surviving a nuclear war and a nuclear event. I'm very pleased to be joined by Stephen Harris. And Stephen Harris is a highly sought after designer and consultant. He started as a development engineer doing instrumentation and data acquisition for the scientific labs of Chrysler Corporation before moving to private sector consulting on energy and fuel cell vehicles. And after 9 11, he formed his own publishing business where he has published the best books ever written on hydrogen, real solar energy and other topics pertaining to energy. And since 2003 he teaches regularly on batteries, harvesting power, communications, navigation and illumination to specialized elements of the US military. And I'm going to welcome you here, Steven, and please say hello. And also, how did you get into all this nuclear stuff? Perhaps you could give us the background.
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Okay, we're not going to give you a two hour show like the last one. Okay. This is a quickie. We're in and we're out. Because I'm getting so many emails and phones calls and everyone is going crazy about all of the nuclear concerns over Iran. And really there's a lot of nuclear concerns out there other than Iran, a lot of them. But if Iran is what's got you interested in this thing, Iran and Israel. Good. Okay. If nothing happens this time, then it's going to be the next time. And so Gabe and I decided to do a quick little podcast and put this together. I rewrote Nuclear War survival skills in 2020 and I haven't done an update since then because it hasn't really needed it. Krasn Carney, the original author of it in 1979, was a dear friend and mentor of mine for about 10 years, eight and a half years. And we would. It was the latter part of his life and I talked to him every week, twice a week. I kept him company. We talked about every aspect of nuclear. I was working with doctors for disaster preparedness in the 90s and met them through there. One of their big concerns was nuclear. So I already been spun up a great deal on nuclear issues and homeland security, what we called civil defense back then. And Crescent and I went over all the many of intricate details along with one of his friends that helped him in the book but couldn't be named, Edwin York, who is now deceased, unfortunately, about the same time Crescent did. Ed designed nuclear weapons. And Ed designed also our civil defense infrastructure that went into the nuclear war. Survival skills. And so working with these two men for about eight years, I became very familiar. And around the time Ukraine got invaded by Russia, my friends that I consult to in military and government and different areas called me. And one of my friends who I greatly, greatly respect said, you need to rewrite nicoar survival skills. I go, it's timeless. You don't need to rewrite it. Everything in it is valid then. That is valid today. Physics hasn't changed. He goes, let me say one thing. I go, what's that? He goes, bucket stove. I go, damn it. Because the book shows you how to make a really simple, efficient stove out of a metal bucket. And guess what the fuel is newspaper.
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Those don't exist anymore.
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Well, the metal buckets, you can get two and a half gallon metal buckets still at Home Depot. You can still get metal paint cans. Yes, there's plastic versions of it. Yes. You can improvise it and do it. You can use something other than a metal coat hanger, even though we still have a lot of those in our closet to hold the pot. But so I had to go in and I had to change it. I had to get all your substitute materials and different alternatives. And then I replaced newspaper with Amazon boxes, especially Amazon boxes with like a little cooking oil put onto them as your heat source because you're basically putting it in a piece of fuel like every 30 seconds just to bring your water up to temperature for your food that you're making, etc. You're not doing a Julia Child three hour slow roll boil. It's just meant to work and work quickly. But the emphasis on nuclear war survival skills that I've maintained and continued through a lot of the training I've done is expedient. Items that you can get me means you can get everything you going to use is basically in your house right now. And it's like your shower curtain is great for waterproofing. If you actually had a fallout situation, you can make a very. It's in the book and it's very detailed. You can step by step, you can make a very wonderful shelter for radiation in your backyard by digging a trench. I'd have a spare copy of the book because I'd go get the guy down the street with the landscape business, the backhoe. And then your trench becomes very easy to make. You cover that with doors and then the shower curtains and waterproofing, you put the dirt over it and you reduced your radiation exposure by like 500 to 1000. But in the. That was for a Soviet attack scenario. What we're talking about now is probably what we just said, a nuclear event. It's like there is an event like D.C. got nuked, New York got nuked, Atlanta got nuked, Los Angeles got nuked. You know, something got nuked. One or two went off in the United States, which is.
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What you did with the book was to update it. And it's more than just the, you know, the update on the stove. It's a. It's a very long book, very detailed book about everything that you need to think of during a nuclear war and during a nuclear event. So it really covers the gamut of everything. And so I think everybody will find whether it's in the book. I hope people read the book. But let's be honest, even people aren't always going to read. So you have a useful video as well, where you're basically explaining in audio and video some of these key concepts as well. But everybody should obviously be consuming both.
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Right? Right. I mean, if you can only do one thing, read the first 36 pages of the book, that is a big, big, huge help to you right there. And nuclear event, where a couple of them go off, it's like unless you happen to be in the blast radius, and since it'll probably be a ground nuclear detonation rather than aerial detonation, the blast wave is nowhere as near as far as as it is with an air burst. Of course, with an air burst, what people don't realize is there's hardly any fallout. Whereas a ground burst, where they go and try to kill the missile fields or bring one into a truck, into a city and clock it off, then the fireball. Everything is involved in the Earth all the earth goes up in the fireball, becomes radioactive and falls out basically in an event like this. This book will help you understand how you can hide from radiation almost in your house. You know, there's several ways of making shelters, either in your basement, shelters on your first floor or your second floor. There's many different ways of doing it. It talks about measuring radiation. And my video nuclear band is like, oh no, another two hour video from. Tell you what, just listen to it as you're driving to and from work. Listen to it. Just the audio, just the audio. And then go back. It's like, oh, what was that one hour? Oh, you can go back and look at it when you get home and see that one part that I was talking about because I, in doing this video assume like I'm gone, okay? And it's like, I don't have a list of things for you to get from Amazon or Amazon doesn't exist. And Sears and Roebuck came back and they're now the online thing is, I'm telling you what, not to get what's bs. And then we do have radiation meters that we would suggest that you get that are much better than many of the other ones shoveled onto the market. But I go, and if I'm not here to give you a link, these are the characteristics for you to look for. What is the low end, what is the high end, what is the other feature? What is this? So you can listen to that and go in and make your own informed, intelligent decision. And it's like, I think Steve would buy that one right there.
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Absolutely. It was very, very useful information. And we do have MP3s in addition to MP4s, not just for this course, but we're going back and doing that for all the other ones as well, for those who prefer just to listen. Now one of the things I noticed from the book, Stephen, is that Crescent Kearney was not, not only, not only is he doing, you know, the science and, and the preparedness, but he also has some interesting insights about the state of preparedness, let's say for Americans where he says, you know, unlike the Swiss, even unlike the Russians, the US government has not prepared its people for a nuclear event. So he has some, some interesting insights to that. And of course that's what he's doing in that book. Now for the, for the audience who, who's listening, I might be saying that, oh, you know, nuclear war, it hasn't happened. Mutually assured destruction, that means it's not going to happen, we're too civilized, etcetera Etc. What is the risk, in your view, June 20, 2025, of a nuclear event? How will that.
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100%. I guarantee you 100% you're going to have a nuclear event in the United States, guaranteed. Now the question is, the caveat is are we going to have it in 10 minutes from now or 10 years from now or 50 years from now? That's the question. But it is going to be 100%. If you like do your, your math and you extrapolate out into the future, you can pretty much guarantee New York and D.C. are going to get nuked at some point in the future. 50 years from now, 10 years from now, someone who hates us enough is going to do it at some point in the history. And the thing is you're always thinking like, well, delivery vehicles and how are they going to deliver it? It's like sea containers. It's like, if I hear that again, I'm going to hit someone. No, if you go back and you look at some of the lore, Tom Clancy, Brad Thor, Vince Flynn, and these people are writing fiction based upon fact and it was fact that, you know, and it still probably is. The Soviets have their nuclear weapons here they are on the ground in the United States now and when they want to clock one off, they're going to do it here and just take one and like set it off, you know, in a truck, in a vehicle, in an airplane, in something. They're, you know, they're going to do it. China, you can bet they have them here. North Korea, you bet. Yeah, roll the dice. Pakistan, yeah, believe me, if we are presumed as someone they want to have influence over, they've already smuggled it in into the United States. So it's not a question of like the missile coming from Iran or China. It's already here. And that's why I'm saying the idea of a nuclear event rather than a nuclear war, which is Mutual Assured Destruction, 1980, Soviet Union, blah. I mean we don't, we have a fraction of the nuclear weapons that we did then and so do the Soviets, but we have more than enough. And so really what we're talking about and I want to prepare you for is a nuclear event. And that's going to be single digit, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 going off in continental United States or someplace in the world. I mean, I guarantee you, no matter, one goes off, if one goes off in Israel, one goes off on Iran or one goes off on, you know, the most isolated place on the planet, everyone's going to have cats and dogs and, you know, have a conniption fit about the whole darn thing. And it's like, oh, we're killing ourselves. We're poisoning ourselves. And the reality, when you begin to understand it, nuclear device isn't that big. I mean, the COVID pandemic and all of its effects would are going to kill. Killed a lot more people than a couple of nuclear devices going off in a major metropolitan city. The greatest threat to humanity on the face of the. On the planet is two things. One, an asteroid. Two, a virus. But nuclear is the big, bad, scary boogeyman. And I want you to understand this book. And me, I'll help you understand nuclear as much as you do a mosquito. I'll let you see radiation that you don't understand. You go, oh, I get it. And you'll be able to literally visualize it like it was a mosquito. How scared every mosquito land slap. You know, it's like, taken care of. So I'm trying to make the invisible visible for you. And that's a lot of the principles Cresson had. And he wrote this book because he knew our state of nuclear preparedness for our civilian and our military population is zero. And it's still zero.
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All right? So if you want to take action, go to escapethetechnocracy.com, purchase nuclear war survival skills with nuclear event video. This has been Steven Harris and Gabriel Custodia. We hope to see you in this course.