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Waters Wavelength
Hosted by WatersTechnology · EN
Wei-Shen Wong and Anthony Malakian discuss the hottest financial technology topics in the capital markets every week.
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Episode 355: Faculty’s David Bholat
1w ago00:38:45Tap to summarizeThis week’s guest is David Bholat, director for professional and financial services at Faculty. (0:00) – Shen talks about her recent trip to Vietnam (8:00) – David joins the podcast (10:30) – Pilot purgatory (15:30) – Focus on the integration quality (20:30) – Steps for successful production (25:00) – The right case may not be the sexiest (28:00) – What exactly are agents (35:00) – David’s hope for the future of financial services
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Episode 354: Vibing on vibe coding
3w ago00:35:41Tap to summarizeIt’s just Tony and Shen this week. They discuss Tony’s latest feature about vibe coding. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953113/vibe-coding-is-burning-us-out
Transcribe →Episode 353: ExeQution Analytics’s Cat Turley
Jun 400:39:24Tap to summarizeThis week’s guest is Cat Turley, CEO and founder of ExeQution Analytics. She joins the podcast to discuss the gap between investment data and trading alpha. (0:00) – Shen has a cold (5:30) – Cat joins the podcast (9:00) – Challenges in getting context from data (14:30) – Techs vs. traders vs. quants (18:30) – Minimizing day-to-day friction (22:00) – Macro and micro (28:30) – Measuring ROI (34:00) – Putting a process in place (36:00) – AI’s role
Transcribe →Episiode 352: Agentic workflows, AI bootcamps, regulation, and faves from Seoul
May 2200:47:38Tap to summarizeTony catches Shen up on all the stories WatersTechnology published while she was on vacation. Stories mentioned: https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953074/symphony-introduces-agentic-workflows-to-core-platform https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953080/factsets-vectorization-service-aims-to-improve-agent-accuracy https://www.waterstechnology.com/regulation/7953083/ai-governance-rules-coming-soon-says-cftc-chair https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953077/bootcamps-and-peer-pressure-goldman-preps-staff-for-ai-future https://www.waterstechnology.com/data-management/7953000/genai-and-data-quality-converge-at-t-rowe-prices-data-lake-como?ref=header-search https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953079/defi-and-tradfi-firms-are-borrowing-each-others-benefits https://www.waterstechnology.com/regulation/7953050/hitting-the-great-wall-details-scarce-on-chinas-xinchuang-initiative
Transcribe →Episode 351: MarketAxess’s Lee and Alexandre
Apr 2900:39:56Tap to summarizeThis week, Spencer Lee, head of products, Americas, and Julien Alexandre, global head of research at MarketAxess, join the podcast to discuss AI in fixed income trading. https://www.waterstechnology.com/market-access/technology/7950305/waters-wavelength-podcast-fixed-income-execution-innovation?ref=search https://www.marketaxess.com/explore/the-state-of-ai-survey-findings (0:00) – Tony recounts the NFL draft week (8:00) – Spencer and Julien join the podcast (11:30) – How AI is making sense of data coming from different sources (17:30) – Evolution of AI in fixed income (22:00) – Where AI has the most measurable impact (24:30) – How to trade and what to trade (30:00) – Agentic vs algo (33:30) – AI sentiment index
Transcribe →Episode 350: AI but make it about data basics
Apr 1700:27:16Tap to summarizeThis week, Wei-Shen and Tony talk about a new AI study. (0:00) – Tony rambles on about crazy Uber fares (6:00) – Then, they discuss a recent AI study done by PwC.
Transcribe →Episode 349: The other Amsterdam and more Cusip drama
Apr 200:24:10Tap to summarizeThis week, Wei-Shen chats with Rebecca Natale, EMEA editor for WatersTechnology, about Reb’s recent trip to the Netherlands, and the latest on the Cusip legal drama. (0:00) – Reb is thrilled to be on this episode. She talks about her little adventure to Amsterdam in the Netherlands (9:30) – Then, they chat discuss the past four years of legal drama with Cusip Global Services, and the difference between use and issuance of Cusip identifiers (14:00) – The latest court case CGS has been hit with https://www.waterstechnology.com/data-management/7952899/where-have-four-years-of-cusip-legal-drama-gone?ref=search https://www.waterstechnology.com/data-management/7952806/plaintiffs-propose-to-represent-all-non-database-cusip-licensees-in-last-7-years?ref=search
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Episode 348: FIA Boca, prediction markets, and the stupidity of Chatham House rules
Mar 2000:49:01Tap to summarizeThis week, Anthony chats with Nyela Graham, senior reporter for WatersTechnology, who subs in for Wei-Shen to talk about the hot topics at FIA Boca. 0:00 – Tony and Nyela have a rant about Chatham House rules. 15:30 – Nyela recaps FIA Boca—everything from prediction markets to tokenization to 24/7 trading to exchange CEOs having a tiff. 36:30 – And of course, no podcast with Nyela and Tony would be complete without a little baseball talk (in this case, the World Baseball Classic). For more detail into what went down at FIA Boca, this article is in front of our paywall: https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7952984/florida-and-folly-boca-attendees-forecast-the-future-of-market-structure
Transcribe →Episode 347: Brennan Carley
Mar 501:01:22Tap to summarizeThis week, Brennan Carley, who has spent more than 40 years working in financial technology, joins to discuss the hidden risks and untapped potential of agentic AI in the capital markets. 0:00 – Tony and Wei-Shen discuss boxing, MMA, and why our dreams of becoming professional fighters were dashed. 10:15 – Brennan joins the podcast 13:15 – An examination of AI’s evolution in the capital markets 20:30 – AI isn’t evolving as rapidly as it seems 26:30 – Are the old-guard software providers on Wall Street in trouble? 29:15 – How bank CEOs are looking at AI? 32:15 – How are the data providers looking at AI versus the trading technology business line? 37:45 – Will the fight over data exclusivity continue to ramp up? 43:45 – What are the hidden blind spots for firms of all stripes? 50:45 – A specific recommendation for FactSet and Refinitiv/LSEG Data & Analytics 54:30 – Brennan believes that there’s reason to believe that entry-level job won’t completely disappear; they’ll just change
Transcribe →Episode 346: TS Imagine’s Andrew Morgan
Feb 300:38:48Tap to summarizeThis week’s guest is Andrew Morgan, president and chief revenue officer at TS Imagine. He talks with Wei-Shen about how fixed income trading behavior is changing. (0:00) – Tony’s side hustle (7:00) – Andrew joins the podcast and gives an overview of his background (13:00) – Changing fixed income trading behaviors (15:30) – Three main ingredients for electronic trading (24:30) – Data issues (31:30) – Equities markets run on agentic AI (34:00) – What hinders further electronification
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