In episode 80 of the We Hack Purple Podcast host Tanya Janca brings on her long-time friend Ray Leblanc of 'Hella Secure' blog. You may remember him from several Alice and Bob Learn streams, or from his cutting sarcasm on social media.

Ray and Tanya discussed what they always discuss: AppSec. They compared AppSec responsibility versus business responsibility, how to "put it down" at the end of the day in order to avoid burn out, and that 'perhaps Tanya should learn to stay in her lane?' We covered when bug fixes don't get merged and released, the first year of the brand new conference which focuses only on Threat Modelling (ThreatModCon) and that Tanya will be Adam Shostack's teaching assistant for his course that is part of OWASP Global AppSec the first week of November (get tickets here). Although Ray professes to be bad at threat modelling on the podcast, if you follow any of his work you know that's absolutely untrue, and Tanya teases him accordingly about it.

Ray's Links:
https://www.hella-secure.com/
https://twitter.com/Raybeorn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymondlleblanc/

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