Podcast Summary: We Study Billionaires – BTC259: Bitcoin & Theoretical Physics w/ Jeff Booth, Jack & Nick
Release Date: February 11, 2026
Host: Preston Pysh (TIP Bitcoin Fundamentals)
Guests: Jeff Booth, Jack, and Nick
Main Theme: Exploring the profound intersections between Bitcoin and theoretical physics, focusing on the discrete nature of time, entropy, and the boundaries of measurement—drawing parallels between Bitcoin’s architecture and fundamental principles of physics.
Episode Overview
This riveting episode delves into the new, 224-page (!) research paper “Bitcoin: The Architecture of Time,” authored by Jack and Nick with contributions from Jeff Booth. The paper proposes that the core mechanics of Bitcoin, especially its discrete block structure and the 21 million supply cap, reveal insights about the nature of time, measurement, entropy, and perhaps even resolve long-standing paradoxes in physics. The conversation tackles questions like:
- Is time fundamentally discrete rather than continuous?
- Can Bitcoin’s design provide a bridge between physical and informational definitions of entropy?
- Does the architecture of Bitcoin challenge assumptions in quantum mechanics?
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Background: The Origin of the Paper
- The paper, “Bitcoin: The Architecture of Time,” explores if Bitcoin is not just technology or money but a physical process analogous to foundational structures in physics.
- The authors believe Bitcoin could provide “empirical evidence” that time is quantized, not continuous.
- The work is the result of years of “thousands of hours of deep thinking.”
- Notable Moment: This isn't theory for theory’s sake. “The novelty of bitcoin is the 21 million cap. … That thinking needs to be extended outside of just money. It needs to be extended to physics and logic itself.” (Jack, 07:51)
1. Bitcoin, Incompleteness, and Boundary Conditions
(07:27 – 13:34)
- The self-referential problem: Physics treats time as continuous, but as observers within time, we cannot step outside it to confirm this.
- Incompleteness is “defined by the lack of a boundary”; Bitcoin’s 21 million supply cap serves as a mathematical boundary, making it “the truest form of knowledge.”
- Infinite divisibility leads to meaninglessness (“any number divided by infinity is zero”); Bitcoin’s finite parameters give definitive knowledge.
2. Planck Time, Quantum Limits, and the Role of Observation
(09:44 – 13:34)
- Planck time represents the smallest meaningful unit in current physics but cannot be directly probed or experienced, suggesting a limit to what can be measured.
- Jeff Booth explains quantum/classical distinctions with the double-slit experiment and the puzzle of observer effects.
- Nick argues that at the smallest scales, we are not observing “objects” but “processes outside of our ability to observe.”
3. Bitcoin as Discrete Time: The UTXO Model and Measurement
(17:41 – 23:27)
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Bitcoin’s Unspent Transaction Output (UTXO) model introduces a strictly bounded—not infinite—set of possible states at any block.
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BTC blocks represent indivisible, quantized units of time (“nothing happens between blocks on layer one”).
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Two stages: The mempool (pre-time, potentiality) and block validation (actualization, measurement).
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Difference highlighted between measurement (occurs internally—block creation) and observation (verification post-fact by external nodes).
- "In Bitcoin, the measurement is internal, like the block of time, the tick of time is the measurement.” (Jack, 21:37)
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Bitcoin establishes both a temporal boundary and a unique method of measurement not reliant on subjective observation.
4. Time-Space vs. Space-Time: Inverting Einstein’s Paradigm
(23:27 – 30:05)
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The paper suggests time is primary (time-space), with spatial order emerging as a derivative—this flips Einstein’s space-time premise.
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Blocks are time; each block is an irreducible “tick.”
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All aspects of Bitcoin’s protocol are quantized: value (satoshis), time (blocks), hash computations.
- “The block is the smallest unit of time. Nothing happens between blocks.” (Jack, 30:03)
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Quantization allows for binary logic (classical information: it either is or isn't, no superposition) and solves the double-spend problem.
5. Entropy, Energy, and the Boltzmann–Shannon Bridge
(38:22 – 52:56)
- Classic physics uses Boltzmann entropy (physical microstates, phase space, measured in joules/kelvin), while information theory (Shannon) uses symbol uncertainty (bits).
- The authors propose that Bitcoin, through its mining (energy input) and discrete outcome (block configuration), provides a concrete operational bridge between these domains—connecting “bits and joules.”
- The minimum configuration (the satoshi) is the atomic unit of value, analogous to a unique, indivisible state—paralleling the Planck limit in physics.
- “Mining produces heat in the form of Kelvin, and bitcoin produces information in the form of a unique configuration of satoshis in the network that you can measure.” (Jack, 39:22)
- The concept of “boundary” recurs: Bitcoin’s 21 million is like a universal physical constant.
6. Quantum Computing, Discrete Time, and Security
(50:03 – 59:28)
- Key Contention: Either the universe (and Bitcoin) is based on discrete time (quantization) or on continuous time (supporting quantum superposition and quantum computing as usually theorized)—it cannot be both.
- “It’s either quantized, discrete and indivisible at some level, or it’s continuous and infinitely divisible. It can’t be both.” (Jack, 51:57)
- If time is truly discrete, quantum computing as currently envisioned would not threaten Bitcoin, as the formalism of quantum mechanics would itself require revision.
- The mempool is like quantum superposition—a set of “preconfigured states” that do not exist as actualized until the block is found.
- Bitcoin’s block resolution is analogous to decoherence: “...what physicists call as decoherence is actually really coherence, its reality cohering to a single chain of events.” (Jack, 56:22)
7. Epistemology, Agency, and Open Science
(60:23 – End)
- The scientific establishment (“quantum narrative”) is incentivized—via status and funding—to preserve the continuous time paradigm, even as error rates accumulate: “...all of the research universities and everything else on Quantum is going to attack this thesis like crazy...” (Jeff, 60:18)
- Bitcoin, as an “open-source laboratory,” offers transparency in measurement and is open to all, not just academic insiders.
- “Why is Bitcoin not an open source experiment? It literally uses energy and creates an outcome. ... Why does it not suffice for the physics community?” (Jack, 63:23)
- The ledger directly maps to human action and decision (“we are Bitcoin”), making flawed assumptions or understandings in our minds manifest on-chain.
- The invitation: “We’re not saying that Bitcoin needs to be upgraded. We’re saying that bitcoiners need to be upgraded.” (Jack, 65:05)
- The authors urge listeners to verify claims, not merely trust received narratives.
Notable Quotes & Timestamps
- "If bitcoin is proof that time is quantized and discrete, we need to look at this quantum narrative for what it is."
– Jack, [63:23] - "The novelty of bitcoin is the 21 million cap... that thinking needs to be extended outside of just money."
– Jack, [07:51] - "In Bitcoin, the measurement is internal. The block of time, the tick of time is the measurement."
– Jack, [21:37] - "All of physics right now relies on this assumption that time is continuous... There has been no proof prior that there could be an alternative."
– Jack, [30:03] - "Either the universe is based on discrete time, or on continuous time – it cannot be both."
– Jack, [51:57] - "Every aspect is quantized. That's just the observation we've made."
– Nick, [29:43] - "We’re not saying that Bitcoin needs to be upgraded. We’re saying that bitcoiners need to be upgraded."
– Jack, [65:05]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [02:46] — Why Bitcoin is physics; Initial positioning of the paper
- [07:27] — The self-referential problem in physics, boundaries, and incompleteness
- [09:44] — Planck time, why it’s unprobeable and what it means
- [17:41] — Bitcoin as a UTXO model of bounded reality/finite state space
- [23:27] — Introduction of “time-space” replacing “space-time”; why time is primary
- [29:43] — Quantization of all aspects in Bitcoin
- [38:22] — Entropy: The bridge between Boltzmann and Shannon through mining, blocks, and satoshis
- [50:03] — Why quantum computing (given discrete time) may not threaten Bitcoin
- [56:22] — Quantum concepts reinterpreted: superposition as mempool, decoherence as ledger finality
- [63:23] — Final takeaways, call to action
- [65:05] — “Bitcoiners need to be upgraded”; the personal aspect of scientific revolution
- [70:03] — Where to find the paper: bitcoinlens.net
Closing Takeaways & Call to Action
- Re-examination of Science: If Bitcoin can serve as a universal laboratory for measurement and boundaries, its model could revolutionize how physics, chemistry, biology—even knowledge (epistemology)—are understood.
- Verification over Trust: The hosts and guests urge listeners not to accept received wisdom—whether from academia or the broader world's “quantum narrative”—without direct verification.
- Community Engagement: The research remains open-source, inviting wide participation, error correction, and theoretical challenge at bitcoinlens.net.
- Upgrade Yourself: The challenge ahead is not just technological or scientific, but personal and collective: “We’re not saying that Bitcoin needs to be upgraded. We’re saying that bitcoiners need to be upgraded.”
“This paper really just demands all knowledge be reobserved through bitcoin. And so there’s a lot of work to be done and so we need help. Just anybody can help doing whatever they see, however they can see it fitting.”
– Jack, [72:39]
Related Documents & Further Reading
- Bitcoin: The Architecture of Time (bitcoinlens.net)
- Watch for future work and updates from Jack, Nick, and Jeff on Nostr and X.
- For mathematical and technical deep dives, see section six of the paper (“Entropy”).
Episode Tone & Style
The conversation is ambitious, sometimes speculative but probing, with a tone blending deep technical inquiry, philosophical challenge, and a palpable excitement for open-source collaboration and paradigm shift.
For anyone fascinated by theoretical physics, information theory, and Bitcoin, this episode offers a profound and unconventional framework for rethinking fundamentals of reality—and invites you to participate in the continuing conversation.
