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Liz and Helen discuss "Zero Sum," along with the championship of our X-Files Villains Bracket: Mrs. Paddock versus the Eve Clones! Plus intubation updates, stripy insect parody songs, and the challenges of carrying people around.

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Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com

Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style experiences here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com

Buy Liz's young adult novel, Mighty Millie Novak, anywhere you buy books, or start here: elizabeth-holden.com/millie.html