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Lucy Bronze
Every time there's an event or a game, there's another record broken. Something else has changed. We've broken another barrier. We smashed through another window, another ceiling. I turned 12, and they were like, you can't play. So my mum went on to Google. She googled women's football. Your guys names came up. It was like, where's the best place for girls? And UNC was just at the top.
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Julie Foudy
Lucy is playing y' all with a broken leg. And Abby just told me today. She's like, yeah, I've done that too. I was like, what is wrong with you two?
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Abby Wambach
Do you think that women have higher pain thresholds than men?
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Julie Foudy
I knew that was coming.
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Abby Wambach
I do.
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Julie Foudy
Attention.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
The party is about to commence.
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Julie Foudy
Welcome to the party. What's up, party people?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I'm Julie Foudy.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
And I am Abby Wambach. Hi, Jules.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Abigail.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
It's been a minute.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I know. We both went on vacation this week after our crazy World cup week. We both need a vacation. Yeah. How was yours? I haven't got. We haven't talked for a whole week. We haven't done that forever.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Mine is good. Mine was good. It wasn't long enough. I usually go on two weeks during the summer. And so this week you go two to the island? Well, I usually do two with my family, for sure. I go to the islands for, like, three, four days.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Tell the party people about your island.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
So my parents have had this island in our family for, honestly, centuries. Like, since Maybe the early 1900s is when my great grandfather bought this place. And so he had kids and those. So my dad and his cousins all. All have this island that they've. They've kept going for the last, you know, 80 years. And we go up for two weeks every summer, and it's my favorite place. Yes, you need a boat to get there. But people do not think. When you think of island, do not think that this is. This is not like, Mai tais and sandy beaches. This is, like rocks and coldness and beautiful scenery. And the house just got electricity, like, three years ago. Exactly. The house itself is very basic, and it's very camping. It's very cool. It's outdoorsy, you know, it's the best. It's the best. And you're in this, like, little. Like, the house is, like 1200 square feet, and we fit, like, 30 people in there at any given time. People are like. All the kids are on the ground sleeping on. In. In sleeping bags. We have futons on the bottom floor. There's three futons that the day they're couches, and at night they're futons. Sometimes people sleep in the boathouse. There's tents that are pitched out on the. On the lawn. It's just my favorite place. It really is. And I got the chance to go spend time with my parents, whom I don't see enough, and my brothers and sisters and their kids. And so it's fun to get to know their kids, like, really, because when you're. When you're on an island, you know there's no television. Yeah, they do have WI fi, which is sad for me because that was the best part of going up there is like, getting totally unplugged.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
They got WI fi.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah, they got WI fi. But just getting to know them and to talk about, you know, when you get bored, you. You start asking questions you wouldn't normally ask, and you. And you get asked questions that you normally wouldn't get asked. So it's just. It's the best. How was yours? How is. How is Tahoe?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
We were up in Lake Tahoe, which we. We too have had a family house there for a very long time there. Plus rowdy fowdies. I know, it's insane. 50 plus rowdy fowdies. And we don't do this every year because it's. It's a bit overwhelming. But it's mostly my dad's side of the family. They all. They've had this Lake Tahoe house forever, so that becomes like the main place. And like, it's not to your point. Like, it's not fancy, it's not big, but it's got a big backyard, which is nice. And so we gather. And one day we got a taco cart, another day we barbecued. So. So we gather. We. Everyone kind of does their own things during the day, and then we gather for the evenings. We rented a boat one day with. With our crew, which was really fun. I'm still sore from wakeboarding. Oh, my gosh.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Did you guys get a wake surfing boat? Have you done the wake surfing?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
No, we didn't do that. We got. And we had like, a low rope, which is hard to get up. So I'm so sore.
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Abby Wambach
Ah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I did it for like four minutes. I'm like, I'm good. I let go of the rope and I was like, I'm good.
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Abby Wambach
That's good.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
But there are bears everywhere in Tahoe right now, right? Like, you have to be really careful. They break into cars, they break into houses.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
And so on the last night.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, my God.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
He didn't have any bear encounters until the last night. My brother's Airbnb. He was staying at. They have those doors that you can. And bears apparently can get into cars. They know how to paw into cars. You have to lock your car all the time. And they've gotten really aggressive recently. And so one of our family members was coming home because the younger group had gone out to bars. After we leave and go home, the younger group goes out. So one of them was coming home, and there was a wide open door. When she pulls up, and she. The house and the bear. So she walks in and she's like, that's weird. She doesn't see the bear. She walks in. There's the bear in the house, totally chilling on a bag of chips.
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Julie Foudy
I'm like, was.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Was he, like, smoking a cigar?
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Julie Foudy
Having.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Having a beer, too? Like, what was this bear doing? So she runs back to the car and is, like, trying to make noise to get my brother because it's late. Get my brother and his wife up
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
because they're in the house sleeping.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yes, they're upstairs sleeping.
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Abby Wambach
God.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
So I'm like, what? So she's screaming. She finally gets Jeff to come out, and thank goodness. Now the bear is on the balcony, chilling on the balcony, eating its chips. And so the. My brother has a balcony upstairs. So he comes out and he sees the bear downstairs, and he starts banging. You're supposed to make noise, right? And loud starts banging and screaming. I can't imagine what the neighborhood did, because this is, like, the middle of the night. And finally the bear just drops the chips and kind of cruises off, and everything was fine. I was like, oh, my gosh. That could have gone so sideways, right? You walk into. And this is apparently happening a lot, so you have to lock everything.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, my gosh. We were up in Tahoe a couple years ago, and it got into our car. Like, we got into our car. We walked. Yeah, we walked. And. And many bears. There was multiple bear prints in our car because when we woke up the next morning, my door was open. Because, of course, they won't shut the door behind them. You know what I mean? They're just not that. They're not that polite. Bears know how to open car doors. It's crazy. It's crazy.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
We were pickleballing, and these women were saying to us, because we said, yeah, the bears are a real problem here lately. And she says, yeah, you literally. You have to lock your. And not just lock it, because they can get into locked cars as well. I don't know how but maybe they break in through the window. But she said you. What happens is if you're parked on a hill and they get in, but then you're. Because of the hill, the car door closes and they get stuck in. They can't get out as easily.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Right, right.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
They destroy cars, rip up cars. So they're like. So we actually park on hills or our driveways that are slanted so that you have to park so that if the door opens, it will stay open. I'm like, oh, my God. That's a lot to think about.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
That is so much to think about. I can't wait to tell Glenn in this. This is so crazy. And do we know what kind of a bear it was? Because I know that the kinds matter. Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
So they're black bears, which are, like, not as aggressive. And if you. If you scream at them, you don't want them to feel safe here because that's not good for them either. Right. To be integrated with humans. So be very aggressive and very loud with your actions to scare them, to know that they're not wanted here. But it's. I'm like, well, how do you know if it's a. Because the brown bears are supposed to be more aggressive. But here's the thing. Black bears, they say on this thing, can be white, they can be gray, they can be brown, but they're still black bears. I think this makes no sense. How am I supposed to know if
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Julie Foudy
it's a black bear or a brown bear?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Like, the aggressive.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
There's like a saying, like, if it's brown, lay down, play dead. If it's black, fight back.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, the black. You want to make noises. I. I don't know about the brown because we didn't get that memo, but thankfully in Tahoe, it's. It's all the black bear. Wow. It can't be brown anyways, even though
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
the black bears have brown fur.
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Lucy Bronze
Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
We did a lot of hiking, a lot of movement. When you're with the Fowdies on a trip, it's. It's a lot of soreness because you're doing a lot of things. You're wakeboarding, you're. You're not sitting, you're paddle boarding, you're swimming.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
So, Julie, have you ever heard the. Maybe I said this to you over Thanksgiving? I can't remember, but have you ever heard of the adage where people say, God help me if I marry into a family that does turkey trots?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yes, you told me that one. That's our family.
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Lucy Bronze
That's.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
That's the fatties. Like, God help me if I go on vacation and I am sore because I've been working out the whole time and active because let my body rest.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
We went on like this four mile lake hike and then Chrissy's like my sister, you know, Chrissy now is like, okay, let's go pickleball now. I'm like, of course. But I can't move. I can't even swing because I'm so sore from wakeboarding because I do it every four years.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Have you.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Do you wakeboard a lot?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I. I wake surf. We wake surf and jet ski. Here's the thing. This is the first time I went jet skiing and there's like a lot of arm holding, you know, And I usually am like one of those people that like go find the cruise boats and get like the big wave. So I like, yeah, yeah. This is the first time in my adult life that I thought I might be too old for jumping waves because it hurts.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yes, I know.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I woke up the next day and I was like, like, oh my God, I'm somebody. I'm broken. I felt broken. Because when, when you're wakeboarding too, you're like holding on for what you think is your dear life.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Dear life. Dear life.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
And I got outside the wake right away. You know, I get up on my first time, I get outside the wake and I'm, you know, and it's calm and I'm just like, this is nice. And I'm just gonna stay here because it's calm. I don't want to go over that wake. I was like, I don't know if I want to do the wake. I don't do this enough to like feel confident enough.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Anyways, it was super fun. So. And we got to spend. Before that, we got to spend the whole week in New York City with our crew, which was a dream. A dream. I mean, we started with the rival rivalry. Say that 10 times. Rivalry. I haven't even been drinking. It's 8:54am the rivalry week, presented by Ally. We were at the Queen's Classic for Gotham's record breaking game against the Washington spirit. More than 42,000 fans, as you all probably heard, packed the stadium, making it the largest crowd ever for a women's sporting event in New York City. And actually the second largest attendance in NWSL history. What was your favorite thing about that Queens Classic?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Well, before the game, we got to go down to the field and do the lighting of the torch ceremony that the Gotham FC and, and just being down on the field was really special. We got to be down there when the national anthem played in, in this incredible baseball, historic baseball stadium that is packed full of people there to watch women's soccer. And so I got a little emotional while I was like down there on the field, like looking at all of these people for a, a, a club game. Right. Like we've, we've played in many games. I played in many games that had, on the national team that had that many people, but not for like club soccer. And there's just something that's happening that continues to happen and I feel like I keep getting surprised and pleasantly surprised. And also I've been reflecting over this last week and looking ahead to the Women's World cup next summer. And I keep thinking this is what you've spent your life building. Like don't forget to enjoy and revel in the thing that you believed could be possible, like the fact that it's happening now. And that's, that's like the overall sentiment from, from that night. It was awesome. And we were able to go to the game with the team and that was fun.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I love that Kinger gets to also see what she's built like. She gets to live it as well. I think one of my favorite parts too was getting with English icon and footballer Lucy Bronze, which was really cool. She's one of the most decorated players in the history of her game and the most decorated English player male or female. I mean she has a trophy haul. So our conversation with yeah. With Lucy is coming up later in the show. But first let's get into the party starter. The highlights, shake ups and headlines you'll want to celebrate this week in women's sports. This party starter is brought to you by Ally the Bank that is your Ally. Topic number one of course is WNBA All Star game. I'm sad we weren't there, but we were just coming off a long week. Team Spoon selected by WNBA legend Teresa Witherspoon beat Team Coop selected by fellow legend Cynthia Cooper 129 to 122 in front of an All Star game record crowd of almost 20,000. 19. Amazing 783 at Chicago's United Center. And abs, I don't know if you saw 20, 20 year old little youngie Dom Malanga threw down a dunk in the second quarter. And then our girl Neca Gumaque became the WNBA All Star Games all time leading scorer with 127 total points. Okay, Neca, I love that. And then Olivia Miles who was the only rookie in the starting lineup, as we know, she made history. She grabbed 12 rebounds.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Wow.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I know. Breaking Angel Reese's record for the most rebounds by a rookie in WNBA All Star Game history. But did you see Jonquil Jones just crushing it?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Amazing it.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Liberty star took home All Star Game MVP. She put up 22 points, y'. All. 13 rebounds and eight assists in just 22 minutes.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
That's hard to do, folks.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I know. That was for team Spoon. And with that, she became the only player in WNBA history to win all four major MVP awards. So she got regular season, already Commissioners cup, already finals, and now she's All Star Game mvp.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Wow.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Crazy.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
That's amazing.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
That's. Congratulations, John Quill Jones. Caitlin Clark came ready to play. She was not messing around. Started the game. She was launching threes from everywhere. So deep she. She was putting. I think she put up 11 points in the opening minutes. She was one of the few players who did come looking like, okay, I want to win this damn thing. At one point. At one point, Paige even said to her, damn, you going for MVP or what?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Jules, you know that we call those, like, logo threes. You know what, that. You know What a logo 3 is?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, because she's hitting from the logo, which is like.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
That's right.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
You know, mid court.
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Abby Wambach
That's right.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
It's crazy.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah,
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
she was. Caitlyn was everywhere during this All Star weekend.
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Lucy Bronze
The.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
The President, as the stud buds refer to her, pop by their stream. I don't know if you guys saw this party, people. She surprised them with her new shoe. And then Courtney Williams, which is half of stud buds, wore the Nike Caitlyn one during the game and at halftime. I don't know if you saw this abs. Caitlyn told Holly Row, I think we should pick it up more. Let's play a little bit. These fans paid a lot of money to get in the door. Let's just not walk around. We don't need to go 100%, but let's pick it up and have some fun for them.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I like that. Yeah, I think so, too. I also. I think that about All Star games is sometimes it's just like boring because they're not trying.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, it kind of. The third place game for the World Cup. France, England.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yes.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
That first half.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yes.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
The game felt like an All Star game. An NBA All Star game. I was like, this feels like an NBA All Star.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice or Guest
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I understand the fear of not wanting to get injured, but just like, let, like, let everybody go by you, but, like, play hard on offense. Like do offensive cool stuff, you know?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah. Okay. In other notes from that weekend.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Our gal at AZ FUD became the first rookie ever to win the WNBA 3 point contest.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Let's go.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
30 points in that final.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Rushed it. She crushed it.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
And only six misses. So let's go. No fudding around there. And President Obama, did you see, he just casually showed up everywhere.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I know, I know.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Came to the All Star practice, played a little defense on Jonquil Jones. He knew that Marina rabery had dropped 53 points this season. He pulled Caitlin Clark aside. This was really cute. I saw the audio of this on Instagram because I think it's a message we all probably needed to hear. Just saying block out the nonsense and don't let anyone take away the joy was his message to her. And one more. Yeah. One more WNBA note worth mentioning. Fee Collier.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yes. Let's go.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I know. So good. Olivia Miles has been grabbing all the headlines for a links team sitting atop the standings because she's been crushing it. But Nafisa Collier is back on the WNBA court. She came back for the first time since Game 3 of last year's semifinal. Right.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice or Guest
She.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
When she tore her ligaments and her left ankle. So her first game back was right before the All Star game. She dropped 24 points and grabbed 10 rebounds in just 22 minutes.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
That's a comeback. It's amazing.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah. Okay. Topic number two. Yeah. This weekend we saw both the Athletes Unlimited Softball and the WFA Women's Football alliance, which is Tackle Football championships, conclude. So AU softball is in their second year of doing this team based league.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Right.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
So for years we've known them as. They've been doing this individual format with the points, but this was the second time and year that they've done this team based league. So the Utah Talons have now won both those championships. This weekend the Talons swept the Chicago Bandits 21 and 6 to 1. And Jadelyn Alchin was named championship MVP after hitting a two run homer in the clincher, adding an RBI double and making a great diving catch while Montana fouts through all seven innings and allowed just one run. So congratulations to Utah. And there was another championship that happened On Saturday on ESPN2. Abigail, did you know that there's a tackle football league?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah, but I didn't know what the name of it was. So what is the name of it?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Women's Football alliance. Wfa.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Wfa. Okay. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. And they. It was on espn. That's amazing.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, ESPN too. They crowned a new champion. This one was a Long time in the making. The Minnesota vixen are the nation's longest continuously operating women's tackle football team. They've been playing since 1999, and on Saturday, they beat the Pittsburgh Passion 42 to 14. They crushed them to win their first ever title after four previous championship game losses.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, what a relief.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Minnesota set the tone, Abs. Just 30 seconds in with a fumble recovery that led to a tiff right touchdown.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Okay, that's quick.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, these ladies are badass. So congratulations to Minnesota. Yeah, finally getting that one. Okay, topic number three. The USA track and field, outdoor and para national championships returned to New York for the first time since 1991 with the Olympic and paralympic events taking place at icon stadium. A few highlights for you, okay? Sha' carri Richardson looked like sha'. Carrigan. You did?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah, I saw. I saw the. I saw her winning run. It's amazing.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
She won the 100 meters in 10.77 seconds.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
So amazing. So fast.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Season best f fastest time in two years in her third US 100 meter title. Let's go, Sha'. Carri. She came back too, from, like, a slow start and pulled away from the field. And she's had injuries and a difficult. And a difficult year on and off the track because she said she finally feels healthy mentally and physically and emotionally. So that. That makes me happy for her.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I mean, this is 10.77. Like, what happens when she finally figures it out? Like the start?
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Lucy Bronze
Yeah, yeah.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Like she has a slow start and has had a rough go of it. Like when she's just feeling like she's in her flow, what does she break? 10 seconds. Like, what are we doing? Let's just like that fast people. I do not understand.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, no, no, it's incredible. I definitely do not understand fast people. That is not me. Abs, I know you're a huge love island fan, so you probably already know this, but Beatrice hats took home the u. S. Para national title in the T64 long jump.
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Abby Wambach
I did not know this.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
What happened?
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
So, as we know, bia was she bea on love island?
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Bea.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Oh, Bea. Beatrice. Okay, maybe I was saying it wrong. Beatrice, she exited season eight of Love island after only 10 days, which, I mean, probably didn't feel great at the time, but since she came home and won a national title, I'd say, yeah, it's worked out pretty well.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
She didn't even train while she was in Fiji.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, I don't know how you do.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I mean, I see all the guys, like, she. She did like, a little bit of lifting and ab Work, but, like, not running and, you know, doing long jump training.
- [24:44]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
She struggled a little bit on her first few jumps and then fouled out. Fouled out on her fourth. So she dropped to third, but then she crushed it on her fifth attempt, 5.24 meters, and held on for the win. Yay.
- [25:00]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I tell you what, Bear Bear on. On Love island, to me, she brought the athlete approach. Like, I know I'm not gonna take that from you. Like, we're gonna actually have a conversation about this. Like, she was, like, really upfront and Whereas some of the other contestants or whatever you want to call them. But I'm glad that she got this win because. Take that, Gabriel. Take that. Take that, Gabriel.
- [25:28]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I wish I knew what that meant.
- [25:30]
Abby Wambach
I was team.
- [25:31]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I was team Bea all the way. And then Gabriel was. Was her person that. Because he wanted to switch and recouple, Bea got sent home.
- [25:43]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Oh, Gabriel.
- [25:46]
Julie Foudy
I do.
- [25:47]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Full disclosure, I did watch the first episode of Little island just to get familiar with the names so I would know what the heck the kids are talking about, but I didn't watch anything after that. Yeah, But I liked her too, because I'm like, oh, okay, here we go.
- [26:03]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
And she was. And I will say this, it is the worst and also best television ever, because. And I. We are sidetracking so hard right now because I love Love island so much. This specific season, these women had each other's back so intensely. And when the guys started getting idiot, idiot guidance happening, and they just, like, they go to casa more, and they're like, it's essentially their. Their hall pass. Like, they're free. They're free to act however they want. And they're like, I'm just trying to get the experience, you know? Like, these women had each other's back in this really awesome way that for me, with my daughters watching it, I was like, they were teaching my kids in many ways how relationships, like, healthy ones look and how unhealthy ones look. So it was like, for me, though, it's. You know, we do it. We watch it because we want to be able to communicate with our kids throughout the summer. That's why we watch it. And also, I'm kind of into that stuff. I love reality tv.
- [27:18]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, I was gonna say. And also you love it. Okay.
- [27:22]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah, I love it, and I hate it. It's the truth.
- [27:26]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Okay, one more bonus topic. Have you ever looked at the reports that Google puts out called Google Trends, and they share the most searched topics?
- [27:37]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, my God.
- [27:38]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Hysterical in words. So they put together a Special World cup report. And I wanted to share a few of the. The data points from it because it. It is very entertaining. Okay. Okay. So apparently a lot of the world felt inspired by the World cup, which I love. So this is global as well. This is global Google trends. So. But this one is particular to the United States because there were searches that said, is soccer hard? That nearly true?
- [28:12]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yes, it is.
- [28:14]
Abby Wambach
Yes.
- [28:15]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah.
- [28:15]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
We are here to tell you, yes, it's damn hard. What is it here for that because
- [28:19]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
the professionals are making it not look hard or they trying to ask for themselves, like asking for a friend to see if they want to go play.
- [28:27]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Well, the other one was adult soccer leagues near me. That was a big one.
- [28:31]
Lucy Bronze
So that's good.
- [28:32]
Julie Foudy
Yeah.
- [28:33]
Abby Wambach
Okay.
- [28:33]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
And then there was the slightly confused Americans trying to understand soccer in, like, a language that they already speak. So one of the trending ones was Mbappe in MBA terms.
- [28:50]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I mean, people are so stupid.
- [28:53]
Lucy Bronze
So I.
- [28:54]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
And they also put Messi vs. Ronaldo in basketball terms. And so I went straight to Declan, who's my source of all NBA stuff, and I'm like, okay, Declan. And I also Googled it. I'm like, mbappe in NBA terms. And without hesitating, he didn't even know. I just threw him the question. He didn't know what the heck I was talking about Anthony Edwards. And that was what Google gave Anthony Edwards or a young Kevin Durant. And I said, what about a young Kevin Durant? He goes, nah, I wouldn't say a young Kevin Durant. I would say young Kyrie Irving. I was like, okay, so the Google
- [29:30]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
said Anthony Edwards or young Kevin Durant. And then. And then Declan said, not Kevin Durant and Kylie. Kyrie Irving. Okay, got it.
- [29:39]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah.
- [29:39]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Okay.
- [29:40]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
When I told them the answer, which was funny, and then I said, okay, Messi versus Ronaldo basketball terms. And he said, LeBron and MJ. The Google. I said, but did those two really overlap?
- [29:54]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
No, they didn't play together.
- [29:55]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I said, I feel like more like LeBron and Kobe. And then I went and Googled it. Lebron and Kobe.
- [30:00]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, yeah. I'd say LeBron and Kobe. I'd also say Magic and Bird.
- [30:05]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
That's what Ian said.
- [30:06]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I'd say Magic and Bird. Just because they're such different kind of players. Yeah, because Kobe and LeBron were such similar players in a way.
- [30:16]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Okay. And then there was. There was also why traffic cones on statues was a search. Wait, why were they the Scotland's tartan army?
- [30:28]
Julie Foudy
They do this.
- [30:29]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, they do this on all these like grand and serious monuments is like just they're poking a little fun at all these things. So they always put these big orange cones on top of them. But abs, this will not come as a surprise, but I thought it was very entertaining. The clear winner was. Drumroll, please.
- [30:51]
Julie Foudy
Ranch dressing.
- [30:53]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, my God.
- [30:54]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
People love ranch dressing. And so the questions were, does Europe have ranch? Can I bring ranch dressing on a plane? Apparently there were bottles of ranch left at the airport. I heard, too. People were telling me, yeah, trying to get it bottles. They were trying to get it through and they couldn't. So I think it's like the World cup bringing the world together one bottle of ranch at a time.
- [31:18]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Oh, my God. That's amazing. That is sad, but amazing. Yeah.
- [31:24]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
That is a wrap on our party starter. Thanks to Ally for sponsoring this segment. Ally is more than a bank, and their do it right approach helps customers unlock their economic potential and guides their efforts as a leading sponsor in women's sports. And just like us, Ally believes women in sports win. We all have a reason to party. Ally bank member, fdic. Coming up. Her last name may be bronze, but Lucy's career is pure gold. Party people, our conversation with Lucy, Bronze. We were at Citi Field before Gotham's record breaking Queens Classic.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Okay, party people, as you know, Julie and I love a good challenge. Okay, so the team at All Free Clear saw our minute to win it challenge, and they loved how competitive we are, and we wanted to get it on the and they wanted to get in on the fun challenge on their own. So they contacted us and they said we got to do this thing.
- [32:25]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
We're combining two things we care about. A little friendly competition and products that are gentle on our skin. All Free Clear is tough on stains and odors. Made with only essential ingredients can. It's 100 free from dyes, perfumes, and parabens, which we love.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Okay, Jules, grab those socks. Let's see who can fold the most in 30 seconds.
- [32:48]
Julie Foudy
Three, two, one, go.
- [32:52]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Okay, I got one. I got two.
- [33:00]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Two.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I got three.
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- [33:05]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Three short one. I got two short ones.
- [33:08]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Four. Oh, my gosh. Four.
- [33:10]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I got five.
- [33:12]
Julie Foudy
Where are my small ones? I got six.
- [33:16]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I got seven. Did you say seven?
- [33:25]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah. One, two.
- [33:27]
Julie Foudy
This is my seventh and I got cut off.
- [33:31]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I was just in the process of folding it. Honestly, Julie can't even win this sock challenge.
- [33:42]
Abby Wambach
Wow.
- [33:42]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
I can't believe I won.
- [33:44]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I was just about to fold the seventh.
- [33:47]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
All free Clear, baby.
- [33:48]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Let's walk it back, but this time with a clear perspective. Now that we have that. And I think we should revisit a messy moment from our careers when we lost the 95 World cup to Norway, and they did their little centipede crawl all around us. It was the semifinals of the 95 World Cup. Well, typically, you have to wait four more years to get another chance at a team, right, for another World Cup. But for the very first time, we had the Olympics the next year. So 95 World Cup, 96 Olympic Games in Atlanta. Well, really, Athens. For soccer, we played at the University of Georgia. Do you recall who we played in the semi final again of that tournament?
- [34:39]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Norway.
- [34:40]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Norway. Norway.
- [34:41]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Let's go.
- [34:42]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
So that time around, we were sure that we were not messy and that we cleared things up. And guess what the final score was in that. That match.
- [34:53]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
What was it?
- [34:54]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Two to one. Abigail for the United States of America. Okay, party people, pick up a bot of all free clear detergent for your next laundry day and start folding those socks. Party people. If you listen to the show, you know how much we travel and how much we love to travel. And I'm beyond excited, because coming up for Izzy season with Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Let's go, Izzy. We booked two different homes on Airbnb. How about that? So we're going for a week, and we're gonna stay in two different locations, because in the second one, it's a little bit bigger. It's near downtown. I'm very pumped about this. It's. Have you been to San Luis Obispo's downtown?
- [35:44]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
No, I haven't.
- [35:45]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Oh, my gosh, Abs. It's so cute. Like, corner cafes, right? And you can hang out with all the locals there, so that's fun. Yeah, I'm. I'm beyond excited to do that. So booking a stay on Airbnb makes those moments feel a little more possible. You're staying in real neighborhoods. You're walking the same streets as the people who live there. And when you're traveling like I am with friends and our family, having everyone together under one roof, as we know, gives us time. And it's got a great backyard where you can barbecue in. Gives us more time to experience together. So for all my upcoming travel, you'll find me scrolling, booking and enjoying Airbnb.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
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- [39:42]
Abby Wambach
Do we want to get to the party as part of our party?
- [39:45]
Julie Foudy
We want to get to the party as part of our party. All right. It feels like it's only fitting that on a night like tonight, our guest is someone who has spent her entire career making history herself. Lucy Bronze is one of the greatest players the game has ever seen. She is the most decorated English footballer of all time, a two time European champion with England, a Five time UEFA Champion League winner, a four time Women's Super League title winner. She's won league titles in France and Spain, and in 2020 became the first English player and the first defender, y', all to be named the best FIFA women's player. Her trophy haul is 22 honors. Strong 22. So she literally is the most accomplished footballer in England. I am not done. She just signed a new contract extension with Chelsea for another year. She helped England defend its European title in 2025. We later learned she played that Euros the entire time with a broken leg. She even has won things here in America. Lucy won an NCAA championship during her time at the University of North Carolina and has said that experience helped shape the mindset that carried her to the top of the global game. Lucy, Bronze, you absolute legend. Welcome to the party.
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Abby Wambach
Let's go,
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Julie Foudy
Lucy.
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Lucy Bronze
Nice entrance.
- [41:30]
Abby Wambach
You right here.
- [41:31]
Julie Foudy
All right, Luce. Oh, Lucy, I saw on your Instagram feed that you were Wimbledon.
- [41:40]
Lucy Bronze
Yep.
- [41:40]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Were you in the Royal box?
- [41:41]
Julie Foudy
Cause Kinger. Billie Jean, did you see her?
- [41:44]
Lucy Bronze
No, not that day, no.
- [41:45]
Julie Foudy
Ah, we thought maybe you might have
- [41:47]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
run into Kinger there.
- [41:48]
Lucy Bronze
No, no. I do love Wimbledon, though. I've been a few times. I actually played tennis when I was younger.
- [41:53]
Abby Wambach
No way.
- [41:54]
Lucy Bronze
My mum was adamant I was going to be a tennis player and I was like, it's football. And she was like, please, no. You could be the next Serena Williams.
- [42:03]
Abby Wambach
Well, you've done fine playing soccer.
- [42:05]
Lucy Bronze
I hope so, right?
- [42:08]
Abby Wambach
I mean, Lucy, I watch you play and I love the fierceness that you play with. I love the tactics, your technique. And I think that you've been a part of the game for all these years since Julie and I have been retired and seen the real growth of it. I would love to know what it's like to even be in a foreign country and for these people to know who you are and to have watched the game grow in the way that it has in your country and globally.
- [42:38]
Lucy Bronze
I always say I think I'm like one of the luckiest female players in the world because the start of my career, the game was pretty small. I was small as a player and almost my career and the game has grown in the same kind of rhythm in line that I've got to be able to grow alongside the game becoming bigger and bigger, whereas the players I play with now, they didn't know it before. And then the players who've retired haven't been able to experience it now on the field. So I always feel so lucky to have seen both sides of it in such an Amazing way. And I think that's made me appreciate more. And I probably tell the, I tell so many stories to the younger players. They're probably sick of it. They're like, you told us this before about this player and this. And I just think it's amazing where it's come, but I just keep thinking, wow, we've got so much more that we can, we can do. Like even days like today, you know, every time there's an event or a game is another record broken, something else has changed. We've, we've broken another barrier. We smashed through another window, another ceiling. And yeah, it's just amazing to be part of and to just have watched it. I just, I'm just so content to be able to have shared so many experiences.
- [43:47]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah.
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Julie Foudy
You talk about the growth in England as well. My in laws, who of course are English. When I first met them, you know, 30 plus years ago, been married to my husband for 30 years. I said to them, now this is 30 years ago, I said to them, I play football. And they were like, you play football?
- [44:07]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
What?
- [44:07]
Julie Foudy
Like I had two heads. And I was like, yeah, that's what we do in the states. Because 30 years ago you just did not come across women, I think, playing football. Right.
- [44:17]
Lucy Bronze
In England.
- [44:18]
Julie Foudy
Yeah.
- [44:18]
Lucy Bronze
I mean, not even like 20 years ago when I was still a teenager, when I was 12, like that didn't exist either. That's how the whole, the whole story of me coming to North Carolina, to America, meeting Anson Dorrance was because of that, I turned 12 and they were like, you can't play. So my mum went on to Google. She googled women's football. Your guys names came up. She said it was like, where's the best place for girls? And UNC was just at the top.
- [44:48]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah.
- [44:48]
Lucy Bronze
And that's how. And then out of here. So then she was like, right, you go into a soccer camp. So I went to a soccer camp in UNC when I was 12 years old. Wow.
- [44:58]
Julie Foudy
And Anson was like, I'm taking her.
- [45:01]
Lucy Bronze
And Anson went to my mom and said, bring her back. And she's the right age and she's, she's in.
- [45:06]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Wow, that's crazy.
- [45:07]
Abby Wambach
That's an incredible story.
- [45:08]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Good old Google.
- [45:09]
Julie Foudy
That's crazy. Okay, before we go to UNC days, can we go back to last year, European Championships? You guys might have recalled that England played Spain in the final. They won it. They go back to back as European champions for the first time. And we find out after the fact, as we said, off the top, like Lucy is Playing y' all with a broken leg. So we. And Abby just told me today. She's like, yeah, I've done that, too. I was like, what is wrong with you two? So I want one.
- [45:43]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
I want to hear how you did
- [45:44]
Julie Foudy
it, and then we can compare it to Abby's craziness.
- [45:46]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah, I mean, I had, like. I hurt myself towards the end of the season, kind of unaware. And a few weeks in, I was like, my legs hurts. It hurts. It hurts, hurts. Doctor was like, it can't be broken because you wouldn't be able to play. I was like, cool, I'll keep playing. I went to my first England camp, like, a few weeks before the Euros. I told my England doctor, who's been the England doctor for 12 years, so he knows me. And I said, my leg hurts a bit. And he went, lucy Bronze is telling me she's in pain. Nah, we're getting you an X ray. So I played a game against Portugal, Wembley. We X rayed it straight after the game. And he was like, you've broke your leg. We need to sit down with Serena. We need to come up with a plan. And I was like, well, I'm playing. That's the plan Done.
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Julie Foudy
I've got the plan.
- [46:37]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah. I've got the plan. I'm playing. Let's go. Yeah, obviously, I made it worse by playing and took a bit of time off, but, yeah, there was no. There was no way you're gonna keep me off the field. Like I said to Serena, if you want me to play, I'm playing. If I'm not good enough because I'm playing in too much pain, you take me off, you don't play me. That's your decision. But I'm available. That's be all and end all. I'm available. Yeah.
- [47:02]
Abby Wambach
Do you think that women have higher pain thresholds than men?
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Julie Foudy
I knew that was coming.
- [47:12]
Abby Wambach
I do. I mean, it's. You know, we Americans saw Christian Pulisic have go out with an injury in the last game, and, you know, I understand the pressure in the moment. I also understand the pain, but there's no way I'm coming off the field down two goals in any World Cup. You know, I wish that there was, like, a way for him to have maybe gotten injection on the sideline, although I got staples on the sideline, so I don't know. Well, I broke my leg, okay.
- [47:49]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
No, it wasn't your leg.
- [47:50]
Abby Wambach
Yeah, my toe. I had a big. I had a broken big toe prior to the 2007 Women's World Cup. And it was totally fractured. So before every practice and every game, they would have to inject both sides of my toe and the nerve with numbing medication to completely numb it. So during that whole World cup run that we ended up coming out with a bronze medal, we didn't win that one. But during that whole run, I would go to practice, and then everybody would take their cleats off, and I would put my foot in a boot and then walk around while the pain med wore off, while the numbing medication wore off. But I played the whole tournament with basically a whole foot that was numb. I couldn't feel anything. It was very weird. And now I can't bend my toe.
- [48:40]
Julie Foudy
So young kids watching this are like, so the moral of the story is you play with everything broken. No, it is not that. No, it's not that. These are, like, very extreme situations.
- [48:54]
Lucy Bronze
Yes.
- [48:55]
Abby Wambach
But I think part of the difference between. I think what Lucy and I experience more than maybe the men is. And probably me more than you at the time. But I was playing to feed myself, you know, like, every game and every championship and World Cup I played in, I was fighting for my literal life and for my future. And so, you know, if I've got a many, many million dollars a year contract or transfer fee, whatever, maybe I'm thinking differently. I don't know. But my spirit. I'm a winner. Like, I want to play. And that's. And you are, too.
- [49:36]
Julie Foudy
Did you know in my research that Lucy Bronze's full name is Lucia Roberta Tough Bronze.
- [49:48]
Abby Wambach
No freaking way. Tough is literally her middle name.
- [49:52]
Julie Foudy
Tough is her mother's maiden name.
- [49:55]
Abby Wambach
That is awesome. I am so jealous.
- [49:58]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah. The thing is, my dad's Portuguese. My mum's English. And in Portugal, you actually. You hold onto your mum's maiden name.
- [50:06]
Abby Wambach
Right.
- [50:06]
Lucy Bronze
Whereas other English people don't use their mum's maiden name. So now I have a middle name that. That's Tough, and my mom's maiden name happened to be tough. And the women on that side of my family are genuinely the toughest women in the world as well. So it's just kind of fitting. It just runs in the family.
- [50:23]
Abby Wambach
So you've played on many different teams and you've been coached by many different coaches. Do you have a favorite team that you've played with? A group of players that you've played with? A favorite coach?
- [50:35]
Lucy Bronze
Group of players. I have to say, when I played for Lyon in France, at the time, the coach basically looked. Well, the owner looked around the world and went, where's all the Best players in the world, put them in one team. And I was like, this is. I remember the very first Ballon d' or for like the official Ballon d'. Or. I think it was like 16 nominees or like 20 nominees and 12 of them were from my team. Something crazy like this.
- [51:04]
Julie Foudy
Give us some names. Like, what was that?
- [51:06]
Lucy Bronze
Well, that was Ada Hegerberg, Lesommer Marajan, Wendy Renowned, Bernard. Who else? Majuri Buhari. The goalkeeper. Saki Kumagai. The. Like the captain of Japan. Yeah, it was just Amandine Henry, who was the captain of France.
- [51:26]
Abby Wambach
So you've played on all these different teams and in these different countries that have different cultures of soccer. Obviously, that's obviously made you a better player. But what is your favorite culture of soccer to play in?
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Lucy Bronze
Yeah, Barcelona was pretty.
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Abby Wambach
Barcelona.
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Lucy Bronze
Yeah. That's good. That's. I'd say that even though that was like a point in my career where I was pretty established, it was the hardest transition I've ever done. Because you, like, you have to fit Barca.
- [51:58]
Abby Wambach
Yeah.
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Lucy Bronze
You know, like, you know, you don't like. Barca doesn't change for you, you change for Barcelona.
- [52:04]
Abby Wambach
Wow.
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Lucy Bronze
You play the Barcelona way.
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Julie Foudy
That.
- [52:07]
Lucy Bronze
That is the be all and end all. And you have to fit the system. And if you don't and you don't make it work, that's your problem. So, yeah, that was for foreign players going there. It's like you have to buy into the culture of the game, the way it's played. Even just like the language is not. They don't speak Spanish, they speak Catalan. Like. Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Oh, yeah.
- [52:28]
Lucy Bronze
It's like a real cultural. Yeah, like, it was a real eye opener. I was like, I've been to America, I've been to France. This is easy. No, it was really interesting of, like, that whole transition was super, like, challenging.
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Julie Foudy
That's interesting because you guys might have heard Terry Henry talking about it on TV the other day. Was the reason for this success, and I totally subscribe to what he was saying, is that they, from national teams to clubs, to youth national teams to youth development, they all play the same system. They all play a certain way. And that's why you're seeing the success at so many different levels for the Spanish team. And to your point, like, you don't come in and change a team to fit the parts. You fit the team and make sure you're part of it.
- [53:12]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah. And you make sure you, like, make the players around you, like, better. Like, I was known for being an attacking fullback. I went there and I was like, okay, so Bomb Mat is here and Hansen here, like the two best attacking players in the world. If they lose the ball, you get it back and you give it to them. That is your job. I was like, no problem. If that's what I've got to do, that's what I've got to do. But. But, yeah, I mean, it translates into the men's game, the women's game, obviously, Spain have such a lot of success there now as well. I think they caught up the physical side of the game, so now they're able to just play this amazing football that you see in the men's side and the women's side.
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Abby Wambach
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- [57:53]
Julie Foudy
What about at University of North Carolina with Anson Dorrance and that team and some of those players? Because I started looking at that list of players.
- [58:00]
Lucy Bronze
Insane.
- [58:01]
Julie Foudy
I was like, come on. And you may know that UNC has won only 22 national championships. 2009, when Lucy Bronze was there, was one of them, of course.
- [58:13]
Abby Wambach
Yeah.
- [58:13]
Lucy Bronze
I mean, I went there as 17 year old and in England, I was regarded as a very competitive player. But I always got told to like, you're too competitive. Like, calm down. I went to UNC and Anton was like, it's not enough. Like, I remember Ashlyn Harrison was in goal. Like, she was screaming at me. Like Megan Klingenberg screaming at me. Whitney Engin. Like, I was just like, what is this? This is insane. I loved it. But at first I was like, what the hell is this? I had to do 1v1 against Tobin Heath. I was like, she plays for the U.S. national team. I'm 17. What am I doing here? Like, no. And the funniest thing was I went back to England, and people were so unaware. I was going into training sessions with England a few years later, and they were like, well, when you play against Cindy LaRue or Tobin Heath, they are at this level, and this is what you have to do. And I was like, I've just played with and against them like. Like three years ago. But you guys are so unaware of the college system in America that you don't realize how good it is and how competitive it is. But it really, like, yeah, I always say it's. It's the moment in my career where I was like, thank God I did that, because if I'd stayed in England, they would have just completely took out the competitiveness of me, whereas Anson and all the girls were like.
- [59:31]
Abby Wambach
And I actually think. I actually think there's a big correlation between how excellent your English football team has gotten, the international team with you having had that experience, because I feel like you've been such a leader and all of the players have benefited so much from you of getting the green light to be as competitive as you actually are. Because that's, like. That's the thing that makes, I think, American soccer very different than other or other countries around the world, is that we're not afraid to compete. And, like, practices are actually some of the most intense situations we've ever find ourselves more than games. I mean, pulling jerseys, yelling at each other, swearing the ball is out. That was out. You know, and then, of course, when practice is over, it's like, good job. You know, we played hard. We did our jobs today. So I just think it's really cool to see not only how you've developed, but how you've carried yourself all these years. You know, you've been out and outspoken about your autism and ADHD diagnosis. And I just want to talk about that really quick, because not only do I think it's important to say these things out loud, but also to be as successful as you are and to be such a beautiful voice and an advocate for all the people in the world out there looking and wondering if they could do something wonderful in the football world. You're just crushing it. How has your relationship with the autism, ADHD world been as you've kind of come forward with the diagnosis?
- [61:21]
Lucy Bronze
I mean, yeah, it's something I got diagnosed with not that long ago, but it was something that my mum, from a young age, she was like, lucy, for sure, you're autistic, but I don't need to get you tested. Like, you just are, Lucy. And I think My mum being a teacher as well, it's really helped because she just put me into loads of sports. I found football was my obsession, and I just dove into it and she just made sure that I was constantly in it and I never sat still. I was always just, like, buzzing around. I always say, like. I say, like, oh, it's my superpower that I've autistic adhd, because I've just got this crazy, like, my head's just 100 miles an hour when I'm on the field. I'm like, this is this. Is this all at the same time. I love exercising, I love being in the gym. I love training. I love everything. And I think I always like to relate it to that and think that that's always helped me. But I think the only way that sometimes I've maybe been misunderstood in my career, particularly in England, just because we're. I don't know, Americans know it, but there's, like, very English way of doing things.
- [62:27]
Abby Wambach
Yes.
- [62:27]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah. And I feel like that's always worked against me. And I used to think it was because maybe I was too competitive or I didn't quite fit in, and I was maybe as different in that respect, but I realized it was just. I don't think the same as these people who want everybody to do everything in a straight line, a little bit more militant. And that's the English way of doing things. And it's always worked. And I'd be like, no, I want to go over here. I want to do this. I want to do it like this. And I think the only way that I managed to be accepted was by being successful. It was like, I'm just gonna have to do it even more to prove that I am right, and then I'm. The way I am is okay. And then I got to a point where I was so comfortable and so successful, I was like, yeah, people need to know this. Like, do it your own way. Do the way that you are. Like, don't change yourself. I think if I changed myself, I would have. Have quit football, probably.
- [63:18]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah.
- [63:18]
Julie Foudy
And I love that you had the courage to talk about it.
- [63:23]
Abby Wambach
Right. And.
- [63:23]
Julie Foudy
Because imagine someone who has struggled with that for so long and you've lived it, so you know it. What that will do to their life now. So what were some of the stories you heard after you started talking about it?
- [63:36]
Lucy Bronze
Well, that was the thing as well. So I remember my agent was very much like, we've been together for, like, over 12 years, so a really close relationship. She was like, it's gonna be so good. And I was like, nobody cares. I was like, yeah, I won two Euros, and I had more people coming to me about this than I did about winning the euros, winning anything in my entire career. I was like, wow, this is insane. Like, the people coming up, telling stories, kids at football games after my matches saying, like, you understand how I feel? Like, I feel like I've got a hundred things to do and all these voices in my head and people don't understand or I can't sit still. Even, like, teammates of mine saying, like, how do you manage it? Like, I don't know how to be in a team or what's expected of me. And I'm like, you just got to learn to have. People have got to learn to have patience for you, but you have to learn to have patience for them. And, like, just. You have to be yourself, and just. That's the only thing you can do. But it has been amazing, like, the stories people are telling me and how I just. I just couldn't. I would have never thought in a million years what a difference would have made. And, yeah, it was like, the first two days after it was, I did, like, an interview. I was just gobsmacked by the response.
- [64:57]
Abby Wambach
Well, and I think it just speaks so much to the fact that. Of embracing how different we all are. It's something that we always talk about on the national team, that we don't want the player next to me or behind me or in front of me to be the same. We want them to be different because their value is in the sum of our parts, is going to make us all better and stronger. And for you to be so open about this, it allows every kid who's watching who might feel a little bit different in some way, doesn't have to be autistic way or adhd. It could be they might be shorter. They might not get great grades, whatever. It might be, like, there is still some special quality about all of us that that's the thing that we get to bring forward and into the world. And I truly believe that we are meant to. To be here, to find out what that special thing is. I'm just so freaking glad yours was women's soccer. I'm just so glad it was football. Like, so glad.
- [66:09]
Julie Foudy
I know it's crazy when you go down the list of I started doing all the research, and we're like, oh, my God. And she's won this. Oh, my gosh, she's won this. And she's playing here, he's playing Here, Lucy, what a career. When you look across the span of it all, the 22 trophy hall that you have, and you think about the next, let's say five years for women's soccer. Right? We start with tonight. You talked about just like, you know, breaking record every time a women's game happens. But what do you, what are you most excited about when you think about the next five years globally for women's soccer?
- [66:43]
Lucy Bronze
I'm really excited about, like the quality of the game. I think for so long there's been like a few teams or a few players. I think, like, the investment is something I'm excited about. And the more we invest, the more we're going to find these amazing players. And not just in the States, not just in England, not just in like these key countries. Like more girls are going to have opportunities all over the world to become professional football players. Like, that's insane. There's so much talent in this world that's not been uncovered because. Because they've not been given the opportunity. And at the end of the day, we as fans are the ones who are missing out on it. Like, there's so much talent. And I think we talk about investment a lot and fans and stadiums and that's amazing. That's like a superstar dream of the side of the game. But actually the talent and the actual watching these amazing players is just what I love. It's what I love playing against. It's what I love trying to become. Like, the talent that we have in our sport is amazing. I think we've got the opportunity to find more and it's just going to make the game more exciting, more competitive, more people watch. And that's what's going to just keep the investments, keep the fans, keep everything just growing.
- [67:53]
Julie Foudy
Yeah, it's so true. Because people say, like, oh my God, we're living through a moment with women's sports. And I'm like, yeah, we are. Or women's soccer. And I'm like, yeah, we are. But like, we are literally just scratching this.
- [68:03]
Lucy Bronze
Yeah.
- [68:03]
Julie Foudy
Like so many, so much that's gonna explode in such a positive way. I agree.
- [68:09]
Abby Wambach
I know that you have just signed another year long extension with Chelsea going through 27, but I have to ask, I've gotta ask, are you gonna be like all the other European footballers, the men that come to the MLS and play? Will you decide maybe to come play in the NWSL at some point?
- [68:35]
Lucy Bronze
I don't know. I don't know. Never say never. Never say never.
- [68:41]
Abby Wambach
Yes,
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Abby Wambach
Right.
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Right.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I love this.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Because we're always talking about being mindful with what we eat or what we put into our bodies, but I actually never really thought about laundry detergent in the same way.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Yeah, I know. Same. And. And when you really think about it, you're wearing these clothes all day, you're working out in them, you're traveling in them, sleeping in them, and then drying off after the shower with them on. So I do think it matters. That's why I like that All Free Clear uses only essential ingredients that Jules tackle tough stains and tough odors. We've got teenagers.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
I was gonna say. And you need that.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
It's exactly. It's gentle on the skin, so it's. It's also soft.
- [70:52]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah. And. And it's 100% free from dyes and perfumes and parabens. And I feel that once you know that, you can't unknow it, which is a good thing.
- [71:04]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Totally.
- [71:05]
Abby Wambach
I know.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
And for me, between our kids and sports gear and just life, there's just always stains. Stains. Always stains. Like, there's always something happening.
- [71:17]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah, always. And honestly, I do feel like workout clothes and watch washing them and especially Declan's like layers of workout clothes and how many he puts on a day is a full time job.
- [71:33]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Exactly. But. But that's what's great, right? Because it actually works on all of that. But I still feel good about using it for everyone in the house and myself too.
- [71:44]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
Yeah. I love that you can look at the back of the bottle and actually see what's in it and what. What each ingredient actually does. That level of transparency, by the way, is not just something you usually get with laundry detergent. Plus, my son Declan has really sensitive skin. He has some allergies. So I love that. As I was saying, there's no dyes or perfumes since those can be irritating to his skin. And as we know, skin is an organ. We worry about what we put on the inside of our bodies. So we should also care about what touches our skin too, with clothes and what we wash them in.
- [72:22]
Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
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- [72:27]
Jules (Julie Foudy)
It works and it's a clean you can feel good about.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
Pick up a bottle of all free clear detergent for your next laundry day,
- [72:38]
Abby Wambach
Obviously next summer we've got Brazil. Do you think that there's a world in which you're playing for your from then? Because you know the World Cup's coming to the US Women's World Cup.
- [72:53]
Lucy Bronze
One at a time, One at a time. I want to make next year.
- [72:55]
Abby Wambach
I'm just trying to get these folks excited for the. For the 2031 Women's World cup, which is going to be here in the United States. That's going to be very, very exciting. Look, how old are you now?
- [73:10]
Lucy Bronze
34. Oh, you got it.
- [73:12]
Abby Wambach
I'm fine.
- [73:13]
Julie Foudy
Everyone plays till they're like 41 nowadays.
- [73:15]
Abby Wambach
You're fine. Just heal up your legs and you're fine.
- [73:21]
Julie Foudy
What about, what about post soccer? What are we thinking?
- [73:25]
Lucy Bronze
I want to work in, like, this is gonna be crazy, but I want to, like, change FIFA or something. I want to work in the federation. Like, I already do. I work with, like, players boards in, like the players union in England with UEFA, with FIFA. Like, like, I love arguing, so it seems like the right thing to do.
- [73:48]
Abby Wambach
That's awesome.
- [73:49]
Julie Foudy
I love that so much.
- [73:51]
Abby Wambach
I think FIFA needs it.
- [73:53]
Julie Foudy
Yes.
- [73:54]
Abby Wambach
You know what you need to do? We need to get. And I know these people will agree, the prize money for the pool of money that goes to the players for World Cups equalize between the men and the women.
- [74:11]
Julie Foudy
Yeah. They're saying, oh, it'll be equal by 2031. I think it should be equal. While Lucy Bronze can get a piece of that, right? 20, 27.
- [74:20]
Abby Wambach
2027. That's right. Next.
- [74:23]
Julie Foudy
Next World Cup. The next World Cup. Lucy, it has been such a treat to have you here. Thank you for taking the time. Thank you for joining us on this incredibly historic night.
- [74:35]
Abby Wambach
You guys, give it up for Lucy Brooks.
- [74:42]
Julie Foudy
Should we do a party pose with everyone on three? We give our best party pose. One, two, three.
- [74:52]
Abby Wambach
All right, so just so you guys know, we have a show called welcome to the Party and we love it, but we want to hear from you, so follow us. You can leave a comment. Rate our show because we watch and we see all of it, and we want to make this thing as best as we possibly can for you. And the way that we end our show every time is we do the cheer that the United States Women's national team does. All right, Hands in. Hands in. All right. USA on three. One, two, three.
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Julie Foudy
Usa. Usa.
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Abby Wambach
Usa.
- [75:32]
Julie Foudy
Oh, wait, wait, wait. We can do better than that. Than that, people.
- [75:34]
Abby Wambach
Yeah, we can, people.
- [75:35]
Julie Foudy
Okay, the ah is like from your soul because you're going out to fight, okay? Broken leg and all. You're fighting. So it's usa. Usa. Usa. Ah, like, punch your neighbor if you have to.
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Jules (Julie Foudy)
Okay?
- [75:49]
Abby Wambach
One, two, three.
- [75:51]
Julie Foudy
Usa. Usa. Usa. Oh, yeah.
- [75:54]
Abby Wambach
Much better.
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Julie Foudy
Better.
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Abs (likely a nickname for Abby or another host)
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