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Kinger. Because you are the Kinger. And it's coffee with the Kinger.
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Guys still don't want to come out because they lose a lot of endorsements. I mean, I lost everything overnight. 24 hours gone. I am stiff. I'm not feeling good. And I said, billy, I'm always getting myself self talk.
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This is what you have like Billy on one shoulder.
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Billy.
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I hadn't played in so long that I pulled out what I thought was a new pair of golf shoes. And I'm walking on the course, the entire soul. I left my soul literally on the course.
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She's like walking with a limp. Attention, the party is about to commence.
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Welcome to the party. What's up, party people? I'm Julie Foudy.
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I'm Abby Wambach.
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And I'm Billie Jean King.
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And this. Look at us.
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Look at us.
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Look at.
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Isn't exciting.
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This is not going to last long. But today we're here.
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Yes, we are.
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Which is so fun. Kinger was in town and she said, let's all get together. And we were like, great idea.
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Yes.
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And so we did. I even showered.
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Whoa, that's a big announcement.
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How many times a week you cleaned up?
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I actually wore. I didn't wear a hat in the other recording we just did with. Should we. Spoiler alert. Should we say.
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Sure.
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I don't think we should. Maybe.
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Yeah.
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Why not? Yeah. Spoiler alert. Hello to her. Alona Maramar.
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Took my hat off. I was very professional.
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Had dinner with her last night.
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I know. Awesome.
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We got her.
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Hey, I need to tell you guys something.
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What do you have to do?
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That sounds serious.
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I got a little hair here.
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Sorry. Have you seen the television show Heated Rivalry?
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No, but I've sure heard about it and I'm going to.
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You're going to watch it?
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Oh, are you kidding? Wait, it's gay boy sex hockey. I'm there. I'm there. Are you kidding me?
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Yes.
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I can't wait.
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God, I would love to be. I would pay money to be a fly on that wall.
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Wouldn't it be great?
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Yeah. I'm two episodes Heated Rivalry.
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BJK watch party and ABS told me it's on hbo. Max or Max. Whatever it is. HBO is the cachet.
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Actually, yes. So good.
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I haven't seen it.
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What is it? I'm two episodes in and the storyline behind it. And I'm sure everybody who's watching or listening to this has already heard about it, but the premise is it's two male hockey players who are playing and they're the Best ones in their league. They're like the, the, the top dogs of their hockey league and they like, they're like having an, having a relationship and a love affair and it is.
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Wait, are they like married or anything or.
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No, no, they're both single guys and they're. But it's like it, it's, it's set in the state. It's set the time like of like 2000s, 2010s to 2011, where honestly, queerness was not as cool. Billy, you remember when queerness was really not.
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It's called don't talk about it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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But it's so. It was, it's such a special show for me because I see so much of myself in these characters and like the hiding and the fear of it coming out and all of that. So yeah, it's really special. There's lots of sex in there. So if you really are. Yeah. If you're sex averse watching it on television or have kids. Yeah. You know, be careful on children being around. I mean even our children who are all like, they're older now though, they come into the room and we're like.
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Ah, turn it off. Yeah. It's so weird, right?
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You're like, oh, yeah.
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And I don't know why it shouldn't be that way. It just is. I don't know.
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I think it's a miracle.
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Yes. It's something that I'm like fired up about. Love it. Very much. Love the actors. Want this to be a pitch to the actors. Shane, come on. Shane and Ilia, let's go. I want them to come on.
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We got room on the couch.
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That'd be great.
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I would love to have them on the show.
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Another thing. Sports men, if they are gay, do not come out.
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Exactly.
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Still.
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And you want to know something?
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And that's what I'm talking. This is, this is probably what's going to be about, I assume.
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Exactly.
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Somewhere in the show.
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And then some of the NHL teams, current NHL teams, played the trailer at the games. Oh great.
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Have that go over.
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Played the trailer at the games and people loved it.
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Oh good.
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Yeah. And like it's just so cool because there's. I know that there's little kids, like little, little young men or little young boys who are watching it who are probably feeling a sort of way that they don't understand. And it's such an affirming thing for anybody who, who is in my position that never could see themselves in media. Right.
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It wasn't allowed.
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Yeah.
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At least when I was yeah, we're going way back.
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As you're watching it, and you're flashing back to that, like, are you getting, like. Like, sweaty? And, like, what is the emotion of that?
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Yeah, because there was so much.
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I don't mean sweaty, like, because of the sex scenes.
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I'm not getting sweaty. I'm not getting. For the sex scenes.
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I mean, like.
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I mean, they're hot.
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The angst of it, though.
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Yeah. A lot of what I am feeling in the first couple episodes is kind of sad for myself, for my younger self, because I went through the exact same thing, you know, like. And I don't want to say trauma, because it's such an overused word, but there's a lot of feelings involved. And my wife, who was married to a man for many years, didn't have that experience. And so she's like. She can't see herself in the story yet. But, like, in episode two, she's. At the end of episode two, she's like, okay, I'm getting it. This is not just gonna be, like, sex the whole time. There's actually a storyline that's running through it. But because it was such an experience of my life, it is my story. It's, like, literally like my story.
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So I'm more on Glendon's side. I was married to a guy.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Larry. And loved him very much. He was my first. Oh, my God. I knew when I saw him at the library, I wanted to marry him. I mean, it's like, boom. But then time went on. Things changed, and it is so scary because, I mean, especially in your time, the 70s. I was told if I say one thing, even mention what I'm maybe trying to figure out. I was trying to figure things out, is that we won't have a tour. And then I know guys still don't want to come out because they lose a lot of endorsements. They lose a lot of things. I mean, I lost everything overnight. I lost every endorsement I had overnight in 24 hours gone.
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It's crazy.
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And that won't happen today, which is great.
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It's awesome.
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That's why I'm so happy that we're making progress, and I hope this will help make progress as well. Exactly.
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Exactly.
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So that makes two things you need to watch, because in our team meeting yesterday, you talked about wanting to watch or listen to Call her daddy.
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Oh, I have to watch Call Her Daddy. I mean, we had a production meeting, and everybody's talking to him. I'm like, I am so out of it. It's so Good to me to hear the 30 year olds, like, you know, our nephew, you know, works for us and he's fantastic. And he's 30. It's perfect. They're all going, yeah, yeah, Josh.
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Josh Cooper's great.
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Well, this is another pitch. Alex Cooper, get on our show.
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There you go. There you go.
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I came on yours. It is only fair.
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You've been on it. Joshua said to me, that's my first one I have to listen to. I said, okay, so good.
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Okay. You got some homework.
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She also played soccer. She's a former athlete. Yeah.
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Really?
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Yep.
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All right.
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Get these cards going, babe. Thank you. I know. I've got one, too. It's like, coming up, we are going.
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To try something new because it's not often you get the three of us like this together. And it's called Coffee with the Kinger. But first, let's get this party started with the highlights and headlines. You'll want to celebrate this week in women's sports. Our party starter is brought to you by Alex the bank that is your ally. Okay, this is what our party starter is today. We. Because at the end of 2025, we did a segment where we look back on, you know, our favorite event of 2025. So I want us now to look forward to what is our favorite women's sporting event that will happen in 2026. 6o.
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What are we looking forward to?
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I know Lana and I are going to the Winter Olympics.
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Oh, jealous?
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Yeah, baby. And look, then I hope it's not too far away for the other. The skiing and the sh.
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And all that Portina. Yep.
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Yep.
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That's so great. I know.
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Shiffron von all those guys. Yeah.
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Where. Where are you guys staying?
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I don't know. There's a room there. The. The hockey league PWHL has rooms for us.
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Are you going to go to the skiing?
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You said, I want to. I want to go to both because I got to look at that.
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I think.
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I think the.
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Are you kidding?
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Michaela Shiffrin and Lindsey Vaughn are two.
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Of the biggest stories Lindsay I've known for years. She's fantastic. And she's been very supportive of women's sports. Chiffon's the same. She came to the US Open. We had a nice photo. She's great. Talking to her, I mean, I'm like, hi. You know, I'm like, can I have a photo? Okay. Okay.
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Do you guys understand how fast they're skiing down the hill? No.
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It's scary.
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Like hundreds of kilometers per hour.
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It's so Scary. And when I watch him, I have to, you know, duck a little.
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And they're just trusting that the edge of their ski is going to hold and they're not going to hit a weird section that is iced over and. And the groove. And then they go. And then imagine every time you stepped.
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Out on a soccer field or a tennis court that you were literally. Which is what they're doing. Putting their life on the line.
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Oh, yeah, they are.
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I don't know how they do it at that speed. Like, one miss, I'm a win.
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I can never do that.
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It's crazy. I know. When you think about it like that. Okay. I can't wait to watch USA Hockey as well. I'm also excited about Aaron Jackson.
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Aaron Jackson?
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Yeah, Aaron Jackson.
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Bob sledder as well. I mean, there's so many good stories coming to that.
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Do you want to know what my favorite Winter Olympic sport is?
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What is it?
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Curling.
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Figure skating.
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Oh, seriously, it's beautiful.
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Figure skating.
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Okay, that's good. But I'm gonna tell a story that I kept listening to all the hockey players, ice hockey players. Most of the girls go with their bros when they're, like, 3 years old. It's so cute. So about when they're about 10, the parents sadly have to tell them, you better be an ice skater. And they go, no. Yeah, I want to play hockey like my brother. Yeah, that's what happens a lot.
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That's right. Oh.
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And then. So now the women have the dream. They don't have to go over to that was. I heard that story over and over and over again.
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I just remember when I was a little kid watching the Winter Olympics this one time and looking. And there's something about the figure skating that felt so. I don't know.
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It's beautiful.
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So beautiful. And the athletes are so fit, and they're, like, so in control. And the amount of times that they can go. Anyways, I remember being like, I'm gonna be an Olympian while watching the figures. Really?
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Figure skating.
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See, it's so funny how you. It's so funny how you guys.
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But it wasn't in figure skating.
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Is what inspired her to be an Olympian.
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Yes. I think it's great. Whatever works.
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This is, like in the late 80s.
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Late 80s.
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And I just remember my eighth grade journal. I just wrote, abby Wambach, you will be an Olympic gold medalist for women's soccer.
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That's so adorable. Do you still have that? That's adorable.
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My eighth grade teacher.
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Oh, my God, I love it.
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Sent me the journal when I won my first gold medal.
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Shut up.
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And by the way, when I wrote that, women's soccer wasn't even freaking in.
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The Olympics because they would get in until 96. Yeah, but you didn't say, I want to be a figure skater. You said, I want to be a soccer player.
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Yeah, I need. I mean, I know what I'm good at, and I know I'm not. I wasn't a figure skater. But that's the thing about the Olympics that's so freaking awesome, is because you get to watch these Olympians do things that, you know that under no circumstances you'd be able to ever to do ever.
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That's so interesting to listen to your perception of the Olympics, because my generation didn't get to play in it, but tennis was in the Olympics in 1896. The very first one. So 1896, only men played tennis. There was like six sports. Right. 1900, they added the women, so it was great. So 1924, I don't know what happened, but the IOC and the tennis whatever federation or whatever had an argument or whatever. So they dropped tennis from 1924. In 1988 is when we came back. What was the first year you guys had it in the Olympics?
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What, over 60 years?
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96.
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96 was your first year, Right? Because I was the coach for the USA team that we were back in the Olympics. But we were very interested in what the American women teams were doing, because whether it was soccer, whether it was basketball, I went to all these different games. I'm trying to be the. Oh, my God. Anyway, I am the coach. So it was 18 hour days. It was just. It killed me. And Atlanta was so hot, you guys. It was like having a hair dryer right in your face 24 7.
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Oh, my God. I thought you said. Do you remember that Alana, your wife was so hot, you guys, not Atlanta. Can we please just get a rewind, a little blooper reel? Because did it not sound like she said, Alana was so hot, you guys?
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And Alana was so hot, you guys. Really watching.
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Too much heated rival.
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I know.
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She's heated rivalries on her mind.
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Yes, exactly.
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No, but Ilana and I did go to the. She was there as well. Lana was there.
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Okay, Winter Olympics for you. Kinger Abs, what are you most looking forward to?
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Okay, a few things. One, the. I don't know if you guys have seen the tgl, the tomorrow golf league that Tiger and Rory started. The LPGA just signed on and the women are getting their own league.
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Isn't that Great.
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And for just a little background, it's a virtual golf situation. They're, like, driving into the screen.
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So wait, they drive into a simulator?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And there's people watching. It's like in a stadium.
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Yes, it's in.
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They drive into a stimulator, and then once it gets close, wherever that. That drive lands them.
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Yes. There's. I don't know, all the.
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The simulators, like, they show. Right. And then you bump.
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Yes.
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And you're like, just off the green or. On the green.
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Yeah. So all I want to do now with my time is play golf. And seriously. Yes. I love golf so much.
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Do you walk or do you use the cars?
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It depends if I'm trying to get through a quick round cart, but walking is my favorite. You get like six miles in.
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I understand. I'm just prejudiced.
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You're an eight.
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You're an eight. Let's put you on the tour digits.
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Boom.
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That's eight.
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Are you kidding? That's fantastic.
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Yeah, I crashed.
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No wonder she likes it.
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I crush the ball. My putting really could be better, but it's like, the least fun to practice. Anyway, long story short, they're starting, I think, in the wintertime, so I'm very much looking forward to that.
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Are you investing in this league? Because I feel like you're investing in everything, and I hope you are.
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Yes, Yes, I am. Well, because most.
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You invested in everything.
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Well, almost a lot of things. A lot of things.
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She's like, you king, or you're in everything, too. I'm just trying to catch up with you.
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We're trying to invest because. Not just invest, invest that. We have to listen to the deal.
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And you're putting money back into sports, which is.
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You can't keep talking about everything.
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Exactly.
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It gave me everything. And I'm trying to invest in the other kinds of sports where I feel like soccer was when I was leaving soccer, that they just needed a little bit of, like, you know, the. They needed the resources, they needed a little bit of money to get up and off the ground. So the women's tgl, wtgl, and then Love B, obviously. I'm really lovebed.
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Lovebe. We helped them before they even started.
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So. Great. You're invested in the actual league itself. You and Alana, right?
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Yeah, we tried to help them get started. Yeah, we get. We get in really early to try to help, but yeah, smart. It's got an eight. Sorry, I can't get that out of the way.
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Jul.
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Do you play golf?
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What are you looking forward to?
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I play golf.
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Do you play?
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I play air quotes.
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I don't even play anymore.
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I play like once a year.
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Okay.
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In the Pro Am.
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In the Pro Am, Right.
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For charity.
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And it's only for Pro Am.
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Do you know.
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Tell them.
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Last time I played, were you there? When did I tell this story already? Kinger. We're playing in a Pro Am. Me, Mia, Abby. It was so fun. We were playing with Lydia Co Yo. Lydia Co Yo. And Mia goes, I don't think she likes that nickname. I'm like, I think she loves it. So every time she'd get up to.
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Here, Lydia Co Yo.
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And she'd giggle.
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Yeah.
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And I said, do you like that nickname? And she goes, yeah, she doesn't. I'm like, yes, she does. Anyways, every time I see Lydia at an event, I'm like, lydia Ko Yo.
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So she's awesome.
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We were playing, and I hadn't played in so long that I pulled out what I thought was a new pair of golf shoes that were given to me like, 20 years prior from Nike. They gave me, like, 20 pairs of golf shoes. I don't know why, but they did. And I'm walking on the course, the entire soul. I left my soul literally on the course it dropped on.
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She's like walking with a limp.
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She goes, do you have another pair? I'm like, yeah, from the same. Same lot that the other ones came from 20 years ago. What are the chances?
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So there was a gal from Puma following us, and she's like, I got you. So she ran in, grabbed me a pair of size 8 women, and I wore Pumas the rest of the day. Oh, it was so good.
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So good.
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That's about how good I am at golf. I leave my soul on the course.
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You know, the LPGA was the first women's pro anything. Really.
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No way.
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In 1950.
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Wow.
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Thirteen of the, you know, members of the.
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That's what Dietrichson was doing.
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And they started it. And their co founders and the Women's Sports foundation, we used to always honor them a lot. Now I think everyone has passed. We're trying to find. There's one left.
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Oh.
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Of originals. In 1950, they started, and I think a male from Wilson Sporting Goods suggested it to them, but they did it. And I'm not sure if that. That's correct or not. It doesn't really matter. It's 13. They started it.
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Yeah.
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And so it's the oldest.
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Well, look that up. That's cool.
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Yeah, I like that.
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As. As the. The pro leagues or pro situations. Or tours that we know today.
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Jules, what are you looking most forward to?
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I'm most looking forward to all these new leagues. I know there's a lot of new leagues.
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Really?
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Women's professional baseball league. See, I just get scared happening in 2026. You get scared because it's more things you have to follow.
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Well, more places.
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I just want them to make it. No, I know.
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She's like, I can't come to your opening game.
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Well, that's a whole nother discussion. That happens a lot. But. No, but I just wanted to make it.
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I cannot go anymore.
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No, but I wanted to make it.
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But you do. You what?
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I want them to make it. I just pray. I know I want them to make it. What I mean by that is long, long, long term. Money's going up for the players, but the owners do better. Yeah. I just pray every time there's a new thing.
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Well, love's in season two, right? They're making it.
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They have too many leagues.
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They make a lot of leagues. We talked with Madison Scanner and that is interesting. Basketball. I'm. I can't wait to see what happens with WNBA with all the CBA stuff right now. But then you also have Unrivaled's happening right now.
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Right.
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Project B is about to start. So there's a lot of things Project B and Unrivaled don't overlap with WNBA season, but they overlap each other.
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The player's not going to play 365 days a year either.
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Is Project B this year or is it next?
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Starts November of 2026 and it runs through April. So it would literally start as the WNBA season is ending. Then they go on those, like, week tours. Asia. Where else is it? Europe and the Americas. They said, yeah, it would be fun. But could you imagine going.
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It sounds like tennis a lot. Yeah, tennis is rough.
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They actually said they modeled it after tennis.
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Tennis is great.
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Jordan Robinson, you gotta.
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I mean, you just. Well, I love it so much. I didn't care where we're going.
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Yeah, true.
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So I love it.
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Well, especially when you started winning everything. You were like, I love traveling everywhere.
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You know what's exciting?
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Take me everywhere, because I am winning everything.
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I'll tell you what's one of the most exciting things was when we took tennis to Japan. And we're the first women professional athletes to go to Japan. And to this day, the tournament we started, Toray, is still going. It's the oldest tournament now in 1973. And that's exciting because the reason you see all these Japanese women playing tennis is because we started and we have it there for them. Local.
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That's so rad.
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Yeah. So, I mean, there's a lot of fantastic things that happen, but you gotta get started and sometimes if you don't start right, things don't work out.
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Good segue.
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And I just.
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Bam.
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That is our party starter. Party people. Thanks to Ally for sponsoring this segment. As we know, Ally is more than a bank. And their do it right approach helps customers unlock their economic potential and guides their efforts as a leading sponsor in women's sports. Because just like us, Ally believes that when women in sports win kinger, we all have a reason to party. Ally bank and member fdic. Welcome back to the draft party party, people, presented by Shipt, where we build our starting lineup for everything from holidays to yearly highlights. And today, we're stepping into the new year with our starting three for a better 2026 draft. Abigail. So new year, clean slate, fresh picks. Let's build that roster that's going to carry us through. Okay? Today's segment is made possible by Shipt. From groceries to decor gifts, everything in between, Shipt saves you time with same day delivery from your favorite local and national stores like Alberts or Michaels, Target, Petsmart. It's all about the small victories. Okay, so here we are, Abs. We want to start 2026. We want it to run smoother, happier, more intentional. So what makes your starting three? So some new rules or habits or whatever you want. Where are you going? Okay, which first one?
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My first pick. You got to start the year off with intentions. So we actually, in our family for the month of December, we just had a conversation over dinner the other night to start setting that table for them, for our kids and for Glenn and I, that it's like we're trying to think about, okay, what worked in 2025, what didn't work in 2025? What are some things we might want to bring into 2026 as some intentions that we're setting? So for me, it's, you have to lay out and set intentions and. And the way that it works best for me personally is to sit with my wife, for us to do our own individual intentions, to express those to each other and then create a familial slash marriage intention for 2020 26. Wow, that's my number one. How about you?
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That's so good. How do I beat that? Dang, I love that. This is not good.
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We're not trying to win here. I just think that it's important, like, especially without. The boundaries of sport to help you hold some of those goals. Like when you retire, you have to recreate. You have to do that on your own. And this is my way of doing that on my own. What about you, Jules?
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Mine, I just wrote family. That was what I came to with my intentions of that. Balance of family will always be a priority, but making sure it's not just the kids that I'm prioritizing, it's my husband as well and. And in my partner in life. So, like, yeah, like, because you forget that sometimes, like you, You. You prioritize the kids over your spouse. And. And I want to make sure that I prioritize that more because I'm not great at that, honestly. Like, I get, you know, I get going with my things and then I'm like, oh, crap, I forgot to do this or I forgot to do that. So family and spouse balancing. He'll be very happy.
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My number two.
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What's your second one?
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My number two is. Well, I've got. They're kind of tied together in a way, but I'm going to probably be getting rid of gluten, which is sad. It's a big sad for me because I love me some bread, I love me some carbs. And so I'm gonna have to be very diligent around that as a mechanism for me to, in this next part, be able to maybe do some sort of challenge. Like, I wanna. I wanna, like Brandy Chastain was telling us the other day, she's doing rim to rim, which is this like 40 mile walk in the Grand Canyon. By the Grand Canyon. Yeah. And I'm like, hike. I want to be able to do that. I want to be able to do that. And I can't right now. So my intentions are to create intentions for 2026 to stop gluten. Because I think that's going to help my joint issues, maybe get me down into my playing weight so that maybe I can do some challenges. That's what I got. What about you? What's your 3 pick?
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I like that. I like to do something that has been somewhat successful and then I'm going to continue into this new year. I call it that. I have board meetings in the morning. That's because my brother, who's a surfer, calls it that. He calls it board. He's on his board, he's surfing his board meetings, and he can't start work until a certain time. So I have adopted the principle from my brother Mike that, like, well, I'm gonna have my own board meetings. I do it on the sand and with volleyball and playing beach volleyball. But I tell people like, oh, I so sorry, I cannot have calls until 10:00am yeah. And what my calls are is I'm getting called onto the beach to go play sand volleyball. So I'm going to continue my calls, except on Monday, of course, when we record our podcast. I will give up my Monday mornings for that. But, yeah, and. Or just like, I love my time with. Which is active with a bunch of my friends and working out and being healthy in that sense, I've realized is so good for me on so many levels. I feel better, I'm happier, I'm more joyful, I'm less crabby. All those things. If I can just get some time to exercise and feel good and hang out with my friends.
C
And I just want to make sure that everybody understands that this draft should feel motivating and not stressful. I understand that New Year's intentions. There's a lot of pressure to have them. You can have a New Year's intention in July. Right. But since we're in January here, like, let's just maybe give it a shot and see what happens.
A
I love how intentional you are. That's really good for me. I need to be more intentional, and I like that. I like hearing it. So thank you, Abigail. Yes. We would like to thank Shipped for powering this edition of the draft party and for helping us start the year actually feeling organized. So back to the routine. But still, you can let Shipt handle the grocery run, download the app or order now@shipt.com that's s h I p t dot com.
C
Jules, have I ever told you about this experience I had during the 2007 Women's World cup in China?
A
No, I don't think so.
C
So we maybe.
A
I can't remember.
C
Yeah, we ended up losing to Brazil, and it was the biggest loss of my entire career. We lost 4 to 0. I was devastated, and the whole team was devastated.
A
Yeah.
C
After the game, we all went back to the hotel and we were in the lobby crying, when all of a sudden we saw the Brazil team bus pull up, reminder everyone, they just beat us. Okay. And if you know anything about the Brazilian women's national team, they are very celebratory before and after their games.
A
That's a nice way of putting it.
C
Yeah. They are beating the drums, they are singing, dancing, and for the most part, it's a beautiful ritual. But when you've just suffered the most devastating loss of your life, it doesn't feel very good. So they have to come through the lobby, you know, to get to their rooms. And so we have to cross each other. And it truly felt like throwing salt in a fresh wound. Jules, and thinking back to some of, like, the harder moments of my career, could you imagine if we had booked a house on Airbnb? If we had the option to, like, stay as a team in one house? How fun that would have been, Jules. We would have had our own kitchen, and maybe U.S. soccer would have hired a chef for us, maybe would have had a pool, a sauna, a cold plunge, and most importantly, I think a place to cry in peace. Honestly, thinking about my friends and family, too, who traveled in for these big sporting events, it would have been so convenient and more cost effective to have them all staying in a house booked on Airbnb, too. So I wish I could travel back in time to tell my family to host their own homes on Airbnb while they were traveling the world to watch us play. And it's a practical way to earn some extra income and make use of your space while you're away. Maybe girls playing now and their families can learn from our mistakes. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much on Airbnb.com host okay, Jules, so here's the thing that nobody tells you when you start a business like we have. They say, you know, do it yourself, everything turns out great. But here's the thing. Doing it yourself means doing everything yourself. And it's hard and unsustainable, which is why QuickBooks has become literally a game changer for people like us. QuickBooks gives you an actual team, AI agents and trusted experts. So doing it yourself no longer means doing it alone. And I love that, because it really does feel like finally get getting the support that you assumed everyone else has except you. The customer agent that finds leads, follows up, and helps you bring in more sales. The accounting agent that automates and categorizes transactions and preps your books for tax time without you losing an entire weekend. And the best part, Jules, is that everything works together all in one. Connected, data, accurate books. Real insight, Jules. You're not just juggling eight different tools and guessing. You're actually making informed decisions with confidence. And if you are like me, I was not trained in finance. I played soccer, right? Ditto QuickBooks. It saves my life. I swear. It's like every time we have to file taxes, I'm like, thank God for this service, because I would have absolutely no idea. Outdoit with Intuit. QuickBooks. Learn more about Intuit. QuickBooks@quickbooks.com.
A
Here's two things that I know to be certain about us. One, we love when we all get a chance to get together like this. So this has been amazing. So come west more often.
C
Like, this is weird that this is work, you guys.
A
I know you call, this isn't work.
B
This is fun. I never get to see you guys. That's why I get to see you.
A
I know.
B
Are you kidding? I love it. This is fun.
A
Second thing is that we all love coffee. So we thought, okay, we should start a new segment called Coffee with Kinger where we get to do just this. Like, we shoot shit. We get to catch up, we get to talk. But here's the kicker. We decided that every time we do this Coffee with Kinger, which is new, and this will be our first one, one of us brings the topic and the other two don't know what it is. So it's a surprise.
B
Why do you always do this? Why do you do this?
C
But don't worry, you brought the topic.
B
This time and we got lucky. In our production meeting, I mentioned something. Oh, that's a good one.
A
I made perfect. All right, so Kinger, because you are the Kinger. You. And it's coffee with the Kinger. It's not coffee with Abby or coffee with Julie. It's coffee with Kinger. What is the topic that you would like to discuss today?
B
New Year's resolutions.
A
Oh, look it. She's like, I know what the hell I want for once.
B
Okay, no, because I don't do resolutions. Oh, you don't? Okay, let's take working out.
C
Yeah.
B
For the first month of January, the gyms are packed. Everybody's out there running by February 1st. You go to the gym, no one's there. It's empty. Why do you think they have all those ads from all the different fitness places right now? Oh, it's January. So anyway, I said to myself, this is not happening because I want to keep living. I feel great. We travel a lot. It's hard, man. You gotta just love it. I go, geez. Okay. I started looking up information like, what is a 50 year old supposed to have a week? How many minutes? 60 year olds? 70 year old. I go, forget that. I'll stay at 50. So I'm supposed to have at least 150 minutes of working out. Working out.
A
That's for a 50 year old.
B
50?
C
Yeah.
A
Okay, so 80 is the new 50. I love it.
B
But 80 is the new 60.
A
Really?
B
But it's 60. But I went to 60, 70. I looked at them. They're about the same. Half of that time has to be kind of vigorous.
C
Oh, okay. What does that mean to you? Vigorous?
B
That means tennis, baby.
A
Yes, tennis.
B
I'm sweating. I'm sweating bullets. And I love to play tennis. I never get enough. Ilana, who is number one in the world in doubles, she still plays. She runs six days a week. She's in great shape.
A
Elana runs six days a week.
B
She did a marathon back in the 80s. She's done three. She said she'll never do one again, but she's really. She was number one in the world in double. She was top 20 in single. I mean, she can play. And she puts it right on my racket. It's just beautiful. And she has a nice foot, but.
A
We don't want her to put it right on your racket because then you're. Oh, you don't understand.
B
At 82, it's three or four feet away. Are you getting the footwork involved in tennis? Oh, my God. I'm like, getting my right foot out. Get behind the ball.
C
But don't they say that playing tennis is.
B
It's the healthiest sport in the world?
C
It's. That keeps you the longest.
B
No, it's the healthiest sport in the world. They've done research, like the hand.
C
Eye coordination.
B
Hand eye. You have to use your body. You go in all different directions. You use all of yourself. You have to go in different directions. You have to be able to go back. So it helps your balance, especially at my age. And so we're doing it. I got the first week. I got 180 minutes in or something. So I did it three times. We got to play tennis. If I get to play tennis, I'm a happy camper because I am thoroughly exhausted and sweating wrecks at the end.
C
Good.
B
And there's nothing better than that. You know how that feels when you go take a shower and you go, God, this is great.
A
Oh, good for you.
B
So anyway, so you're into.
A
We're like halfway into January and you're still doing it.
B
Oh, yeah. Okay.
C
I already worked out today.
B
See, you are a maniac. What'd you do?
C
I work out every morning at seven.
B
Or eight of those. That's another thing. All these people are really good at working out.
A
Yeah.
B
Do it in the morning. Get it done.
A
Yeah.
C
So it's. I call it Eat the Frog. Have you ever heard of this?
B
I've heard of Eat the Frog, but I don't really know what it means.
C
So do the Worst thing, first thing. Nobody wants to eat a frog. If you do the worst thing, first thing, then everything else in your day. So, like, it might not be working out. Some people, like, Julie is a maniac and she loves working out. Like she likes it.
B
I remember in the old days when you guys were on. Oh my God, I do it with things. There's Julie.
C
Yeah. I struggle to get the motivation to put the shoes on. As soon as the shoes are on, I'm gone.
B
That's great.
C
But I know that about myself.
A
I'm gone to eat the frog.
C
Yeah, I know that about myself. So I'm like, I've gotta, I gotta set the, the. I go to this little workout class super close to me every single morning.
B
You do?
C
Yeah. And, and so I, I sign up for the class and there's a 30 late fee if you don't show up.
A
Oh, that's good.
C
That $30 gets me a lot to you. Yeah, $30 gets.
B
I just say take my.
A
I don't need that.
C
I don't know if I'm rich like you.
B
Sleep is what I need.
C
Not that I don't got K. I.
B
Almost wanted to quit the other day where like at 10 or 15 minutes and I'm like, I don't really know if I can. I'm dying today. I am not. I'm not. I am stiff. I'm not feeling good. And I said, billy, I'm always giving myself self talk. Come on, you gotta stay in this. You know when you used to play, how long did it take for you to just feel like it's okay? 20 minutes. I go, five more minutes. Five more minutes. Let's see how you. How I feel. So I get this is what you.
A
Have like Billy on one shoulder.
B
Billy, totally, totally. I talk in third person. In third person, which is not good. I need to own it and say I instead of. So anyway, so anyway, I got to 20 and I felt great. Just like the old days. I'm like, oh my God, I'm a 20 minute kid. Used to have to get on the bike at least 20 just to feel like I can walk.
C
Do something. Yeah, yeah. Oh.
B
So anyway, I did and it's good you do. Then we went close to 70 minutes, so.
A
And then you felt great. Once you get through that first. Like I get that.
B
Were you the same way?
C
Yes.
B
How long did it take?
A
You start and then you're like, I feel terrible today. But then you've just like fight. Which is why I do stuff that like other people lead, like orange theory.
C
I love.
A
I do.
B
What's that Orange theory stuff?
A
Yeah. And it's like lead. It's music. It's communal.
C
Do you do yoga or Pilates?
B
No, I think Pilates would be great. Stationary and, like, hardest.
C
Pilates is hard thing ever.
B
Yeah.
C
Pro athlete. Ex pro athlete. Yeah.
B
Hard. I haven't done it before.
C
You're like this. You're like. They're stretching you, but you're also, like, strengthening. You're also tightening all your muscles at the same time. And you're. And you're shaking, and you're like, how. And they're just like. There's women in there that you're. They're just like, I know.
B
I've seen them. I hate them.
C
I know. Their face is fine. I'm like, going up there and saying.
A
Put your foot in the air for five hours.
C
I'm like, I'm dying.
A
I can't do that.
C
This is not fun.
B
It really makes a difference.
A
It's hard. It's really good for you.
C
But I think, like, Billie, what you're talking about is, like, really interesting. This, like, 20 minute, like, you know, that you got to get through.
B
I'm a 20 minute. And I bet you everybody out there just listen to your body. There's probably that moment where you go from, I can't do this. Okay. I'm okay.
C
Yeah.
A
All right. What is yours, Abs?
C
What is my resolution?
B
Do you have a minute?
C
In my mind, we have more power than we actually give ourselves credit for. So, like, this ability to stand through the 20 minutes and suffer through eating the frog there. Yeah, Right. And it works. Like, I also think that there's something to be said of the consistency and the nature of doing something repetitively. I know for me at least, like, I like to get a couple of weeks. Like, if I haven't worked out in a while, just commit to getting in the gym. Showing up is the goal. I don't care what the hell. Don't care about what happens when I'm there. It's just as long as I show up every single time. And then after three weeks, now it becomes the habit. Now I'm a person who works out. I have now created, like, an identity for myself.
B
That's the way you do it.
C
So I love that you have a lot of therapy. Sure.
B
Sounds like it.
C
Yeah, for sure.
B
I've had a ton. Yeah, I still do therapy every week.
C
Yeah, I do therapy every week.
B
I've done it since 95. And I'm telling you, for me, it works.
C
Okay, so. So, Jules, Peloton is shaping the future of fitness with the brand new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus Powered. It's the most incredible thing. It's powered by Peloton iq.
A
Yeah. Have it. It is amazing. And as you can imagine, abs, I'm pretty particular about how I work out because I can't just, like, run on my own anymore. I can't just run like that. Like, obviously we spent our life doing that and training that way, but it is the hardest thing, and I won't do it. I just won't. I won't do it anymore. It's not enjoyable. And that's why this new Peloton Tread plus is amazing, because you get all the classes, of course, in front of you, so you feel like you're in a class, but you can totally mix things up. You're not just running. You can swivel that screen and you can get off and start doing a little boot camp on the side. It's so cool, the swivel. I was like, what?
C
It's the best. It's also. It's been a game changer for me because, like you, I can't run, but I can't run because I have foot problems. And so the tread and the forgiving nature of the actual tread helps me to be able to actually move. I can walk on there. I can get an incline on there. I can swivel that screen. But I think what I love most is that the screen swivels in a way where I can guide and I can do the pilates on the ground. I can do weightlifting. I'm like, literally looking at this Peloton plus tread. It's just.
A
It's in your basement.
C
It's down in your basement. My wife loves it. Seriously, I am stunned how much I actually didn't know I needed this. It mixes up my weekly routine. It's guides by instructors. Like, I feel like I've got friends and I've got trainers on my side now.
A
Yeah, yeah. I love it too. I love it. So let yourself run, lift, sculpture, push, and go.
C
It does it all.
A
Explore the new peloton cross training tread +@1peloton.com okay, so, Jules, real change happens.
C
When you actually understand what's going on inside your body. Things like inflammation, hormones, thyroid, health, metabolism, all the stuff that silently affects how you feel, how you sleep, and how we train, how you show up in your life. And this year, my focus is on taking better care of my energy and longevity. I think people know this, but really knowing what my Body needs instead of just crossing my fingers and hoping I'm getting it right. That's exactly why I chose Function. It's the only health platform that gives you access to more than 160 biomarkers across the your body. Hormones, metabolism, heart health, inflammation, stress markers, toxins. Tracking them over time. You can even add MRI and chest CT imaging. Jules, it's incredible. There's a reason leaders like Dr. Mark Hyman and Dr. Andrew Huberman are behind function. Own your health for $365 a year. That's a dollar a day. Learn more and join using my link visit www.functionhealth.com welcome to the party. Or use gift code welcome to the party. 25 for a 25 credit towards your membership. Okay, so Jules, I told you that I was gonna try. I am eight, right?
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah, I actually did.
A
Nice.
C
I started taking.
A
So did I.
C
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A
Our friend.
C
Yeah. Not friend, but maybe want to be friend. Air. Air.
A
Air quotes friend. He's our new friend.
C
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B
I don't think they usually work to your point.
C
Right, Right.
B
Start now.
C
Right now.
B
Because it doesn't matter if it's Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. Start now. And I keep.
C
Okay.
B
I take a Lot of medications. So I have this book. I keep every medication, what time I took it, but I also write down how much water I drank this morning. I write down everything. And now I do the minutes when I go. I go tennis 60 minutes or tennis 30, whatever. And then weights or whatever else. And I put it. So every day I have this and I do a little. It's like a little journal. Almost like today I'll talk about us and, you know, just one or two words, but I keep that. And so it really reminds me this is real.
A
Here's the one thing that I think about, and not as a resolution, but I think about all the time. And maybe I need, like a new year to stamp it into my brain that I want my kids. I want them to be grateful. Right. Like, these kids are given so much.
B
Right.
A
And I say these kids, and I think in general, right.
B
You're talking about materially or materially. But emotionally, it's what they need. And what they need is mental and emotional.
A
And I want them to understand service. Like servant leadership.
B
Like giving back.
A
Yeah, giving back. Working with others, helping others, and because everything's given to them. And I feel like I'm not setting a good enough example of.
B
By.
A
For example, we used to go to this amazing house called Glenwood House in Laguna beach that was all adults with disabilities. And it was amazing, but they're too busy, and so we can't figure it out. And I'm like, I want to figure it out. I want to go back to Glenwood House, this amazing house in Laguna Beach. And we would go in and we cook for them or we play bingo with them. And it was so good for the kids also to see what they have in life and how these people, these people with special needs are living independently and doing great things as well. It was so cool. But I don't know if I model that enough. And that's what.
B
That's such a parent. That's so cute, man. You're worried I'm not doing this, right?
A
Yeah. I don't model enough service. Right.
B
You don't think you do?
A
Well, my parents. My mom said to me the other day, which is so cute, they're looking at a sister living.
B
Oh, they are?
A
Yeah. And not because they need it now, but because they wanna start looking for when they need it in a couple years.
C
Right.
A
And my dad has a stroke. Yeah, my dad had a stroke seven years ago, and he's doing well, but, like, you know, he does need some help.
B
Okay.
A
And my mom said, we need to start looking, right? And we're gonna start looking closer to where you live. Cause they're out in Palm Desert and we're in Orange County. I was like, great. And so we're showing her different places. And she goes, those are way too nice for us.
B
That's so cute, right?
A
And she goes, I know. And I said, mom, you've been giving to insurance to cover this for 30 years, right? Like it's paid for. She says, I know, but it just feels excessive. I don't need that. We should be giving it to others. And I was like, God, like, how cute is that? Like, that's the way she's thinking. And I said, dad, what do you think? He goes, I think we've worked hard enough and we deserve it. I'm like, that's right.
C
That's a real guy thing.
B
I love it.
A
And she's like having this guilt about, like living. And it's not like an extravagant place. It's nice, but it's not like bougie fancy. It's just. And I'm like, you deserve this, mom. And she's like, no, we should be giving it away. And I'm like, that.
B
That's where you get it from.
A
That's where I think I get it.
B
Because the same genders we look at.
A
And now I'm like, I need to think more that way of like, what are we doing to show our kids that we should be giving back?
C
Okay, I love this for you, number one. I think it's great. Obviously, like, modeling. Modeling is the best way to parent. That's my belief system.
B
You both have children, so.
C
But like, Jules, you have literally created the entirety of your career around servant leadership. So I don't want you to feel like you gotta like, pack it all in into this one year. Like, I am the leader that I am today because of the modeling. You showed me the way that you have modeled your way in the world. I mean, we went to the basketball game last weekend with Declan and like this 17 year old boy, Billy, has his arm around his mom at a basketball game. I love it like that. That to me makes me know that like, your kids get it, period.
A
So, like, you're gonna make me cry.
C
Don't bend over backwards trying to like, show them, show them something like that. You've. You've been just the person that you are. Like, literally is definitively what I think of as servant leadership. So I agree. I just want to.
A
But I do think we also have to roll our sleeves up and like.
B
Help no one's saying everyone, Right?
A
Like, I get that.
B
We get it. But you gotta be good to yourself first.
C
Yeah.
B
Because if you don't treat yourself, nobody else. And you've already made that clear. I guarantee you they've heard it since they were born. Probably because I'm listening to. I think, like, the kids have been hearing that.
C
So you're going to take them to the Laguna beach house now. You're going to try to get back.
B
Just think about it a little bit and then put the date and say, we're going. That's it, you guys. So don't make anything on that day or whatever.
A
It's amazing because when you show up, they're literally. And they love the kids. They're like, what are you doing here? Where are the kids? I was like, yo, what am I, Joe, chop liver.
C
Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
They're like, yeah. Where's Izzy? I was like, I know. She's at college now.
B
I can't believe she's a college.
A
I know. I know. It's crazy. That was fun. That was our first coffee with the Kinger. We will have to start doing this over the computer, which is less fun, but we'll still be having fun.
B
We should make dates where we are together.
A
Yeah. When you come.
B
If it's in my calendar, I show up. Everything that Lana and I do is if it's in the calendar.
A
If you get it in the calendar, we gotta go.
C
Okay.
B
Oh, I gotta go see Beats.
C
Okay.
A
I gotta see the buttes.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
We should do this every time she comes. West. We could. Maybe not every time, but most times. That'd be fun.
B
Well, we're gonna probably be in this area, so it's not. Yeah, it's. You guys live here, so.
C
Yeah, West.
A
It's just West Kinger.
C
You know, I'm just business people here. Like. I know. Just saying we're business people here costs a lot of money for this studio. So we'll do this every once in a while. Party people.
A
Are smart, business people.
C
Just saying, like, revenue is important.
A
I want to add LEDs. Look at the things we could add.
C
I actually been thinking about this. We actually. I want to ask the party people if they think, yes, I understand. My background in my normal set needs some help. Should I get a neon sign? Mm. Should we get neon signs that match each other? Should we get signs? Welcome to the party sign.
A
Look at our sign.
B
I know, I like it. It's the first year. Give us a break. We're getting taped it up today, so.
A
I love It I would never change. We tape up our zone.
B
You know, there's a great team around us.
C
Yeah, our whole team is super blue.
A
I know. We had our team yesterday. It was so fun.
C
There's a lot to look forward to in 2026.
A
The idea is we will do more of this. So party people, don't forget to subscribe to the welcome to the party YouTube channel so you can actually subscribe. See our non led lighted signs are hanging upside. You gotta go to YouTube to see our signs.
B
It's so good.
A
I was like, I got props. I got props.
B
I can bring em.
A
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B
Tell us what you want.
C
Tell us what you want in on three. USA on three.
A
Kinger, you want to count us in?
C
Okay.
B
One, two, three.
C
Me?
A
Yeah.
B
All right, here we go. One, two, three.
A
This is the first time we've all been together.
B
That's because we're in person.
C
I know.
B
That's the difference.
C
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Podcast: Welcome to the Party
Episode: Introducing Coffee with the Kinger
Date: January 13, 2026
Hosts: Julie Foudy (A), Abby Wambach (C), Billie Jean King (B)
Theme: Welcoming listeners to an all-women’s sports space, featuring candid conversations, fun, and insight into change-making in women’s athletics. Episode debut of a regular segment: “Coffee with the Kinger.”
This lively roundtable episode marks the launch of the “Coffee with the Kinger” segment, bringing together soccer legends Julie Foudy and Abby Wambach with tennis icon Billie Jean King. These three sporting powerhouses reflect on the importance of fun in women’s sports, share personal stories and insights, discuss cultural moments and equity in sports, and set intentions for the year ahead. The tone is supportive, humorous, and inspiring, offering both nostalgia and hope for the future.
“I lost everything overnight. Every endorsement I had overnight in 24 hours gone. And that won’t happen today, which is great.” (B, 06:45)
“I just wrote, Abby Wambach, you will be an Olympic gold medalist for women's soccer.” (C, 11:35)
“The LPGA was the first women's pro anything. In 1950. Thirteen of the members started it.” (B, 17:56)
“I don't do resolutions. For the first month of January, the gyms are packed... by February 1st, no one's there.” (B, 33:20)
“I'm supposed to have at least 150 minutes of working out. Half of that time has to be kind of vigorous... That means tennis, baby.” (B, 34:14)
“That's where I think I get it…my mom…She says, 'I know, but it just feels excessive. I don't need that. We should be giving it to others.'” (A, 48:32)
On “Heated Rivalry” and Representation:
"I see so much of myself in these characters… the hiding and the fear of it coming out."
— Abby Wambach, 03:11
On Coming Out and Endorsements:
"I lost everything overnight. Every endorsement I had in 24 hours gone. That won’t happen today, which is great.”
— Billie Jean King, 06:45
On Olympic Dreams:
"Abby Wambach, you will be an Olympic gold medalist for women's soccer."
— Abby Wambach, 11:35
On New Leagues and Hope:
"I want them to make it...I just pray every time there’s a new thing."
— Billie Jean King, 19:01
On Intentions and Family:
"You have to lay out and set intentions...for me, it's to sit with my wife, to do our own individual intentions, to express those to each other and then create a familial/marriage intention."
— Abby Wambach, 22:35
On Building Habits:
“Showing up is the goal. I don't care what the hell happens when I'm there. Just as long as I show up every single time…after three weeks, now I'm a person who works out.”
— Abby Wambach, 39:16
On Service and Parenting:
“I want my kids…to be grateful. I want them to understand service. Like servant leadership.”
— Julie Foudy, 46:29
This episode inaugurates “Coffee with the Kinger,” setting the stage for regular, unscripted, and honest conversations among three of sports’ most influential women. True to the show’s mission, it brims with optimism, humor, and encouragement for listeners to join a relentless, joyful movement to uplift and expand women’s sports.
Memorable Moment:
“Look at us. Isn’t this exciting?”
— Billie Jean King (00:58)
The episode underscores that whether you’re an athlete or a fan, what matters is showing up, building your community, investing in yourself and others, and — above all — having fun along the way.