We Draft Our Dream Women’s Sports Thanksgiving Table

Summary

Podcast Summary: Welcome to the Party – "We Draft Our Dream Women’s Sports Thanksgiving Table"
Release: November 27, 2025
Hosts: Abby Wambach (A), Julie Foudy (B)
Special Guest Mentioned: Billie Jean King (not present in this episode but often referenced)

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Overview

In this special Thanksgiving episode, soccer icons Abby Wambach and Julie Foudy celebrate women’s sports and friendship by imagining their ultimate Thanksgiving dinner table—with a twist. Each drafts an all-star women’s sports guest list consisting of a current athlete, a legend, a coach, an executive/owner, and a wild card. Brimming with laughter, deep respect, and gratitude, the episode highlights the evolving world of women’s sports, the importance of community, and the joy of tradition (and competition).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Thanksgiving Traditions & Reflections

• Family Rituals:
  • Julie’s family is all-in on active holiday traditions: turkey trots, beach volleyball, pickleball, and runs, prompting amusement (and mock horror) from her British husband, Ian ([02:10]).
  • Abby enjoys the togetherness but finds holiday prep stressful. She acknowledges the complex history of Thanksgiving and notes a conscious attempt in her family to honor indigenous peoples ([03:05]).
• Favorite Traditions:
  • Abby loves brunch after a long walk, watches the parade and dog show ([04:14]).
  • Julie appreciates that Thanksgiving doesn’t involve gift-giving, focusing on presence over presents ([03:02]).
• Cooking vs. Ordering:
  • Abby orders but still spends a lot of time heating, timing, and organizing food, reflecting on the universal chaos of holiday kitchens ([01:27], [05:00]):
    • "Timing is the hardest part of cooking, folks. I swear." – Abby ([05:19])
• Stats & Humor:
  • Julie brings surprising stats:
    • 46 million turkeys eaten on Thanksgiving; 4.96 billion pounds of turkey consumed ([07:00]-[08:31]).
    • Americans buy 80 million pounds of cranberries—but neither host actually eats much cranberry sauce ([07:24]).
    • 45% of Americans choose pumpkin pie, 19% apple pie—a stat both mock: “It’s both, obviously!” ([09:04]-[09:14]).

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Thanksgiving Games & Family Fun

• Active Families & Games:
  • Julie’s family is hyperactive on holidays, provoking laughter about “born fit” relatives ([10:17]).
  • Favorite games include Left-Right-Center (now played with higher stakes by the grown kids) and Pictionary-like drawing games ([11:19]-[12:08]).
• Tradition Crowd-Sourcing:
  • Julie invites listeners to share their own Thanksgiving traditions, especially games, noting: “I don’t need to be doing any more sports, but what fun things should we add?” ([10:39]).

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The Women's Sports Thanksgiving Draft (Main Segment)

Format: Each host drafts a table with:

1. Current Athlete
2. Legend
3. Coach
4. Executive/Owner
5. Wild Card

1. Current Athlete

• Abby: Caitlin Clark
  • Represents “the present and future of sports… a conduit between athlete and consumer” ([23:53]).
  • “Caitlin Clark, will you come and sit at my table? I would love to feed you a Thanksgiving Day dinner.” – Abby ([25:18])
• Julie: A'ja Wilson
  • 4-time WNBA MVP, Defensive Player of the Year.
  • “Asia has a vibe to her I love… she carries a lot of joy, she’s a great leader.” – Julie ([26:18])

2. Legend

• Julie: Wilma Rudolph
  • Three Olympic gold medals, overcame polio.
  • Quote: “My doctors told me I’d never walk again. My mom told me I would. I believed my mom.” – Wilma Rudolph via Julie ([29:06])
• Abby: Billie Jean King
  • “She is the root system of the entire tree of women’s sports.” ([30:34])
  • Hosting BJK would ensure everyone comes, Abby says ([30:10]).

3. Coach

• Julie: Emma Hayes (Current US Women’s National Team Coach)
  • Noted for intelligence, humor, and transforming US women’s soccer with a holistic, female-focused approach ([32:05]-[34:53]).
• Abby: Pia Sundhage
  • Former US national team coach, pivotal for letting athletes "be themselves… all our individual parts will make the collective better." ([37:18])

4. Executive/Owner

• Abby: Michelle Kang
  • Major investor in women’s sports, dedicated to “resources for women’s teams—trusting and investing in women athletes.” ([37:51]-[39:22])
• Julie: Mellody Hobson
  • Co-CEO of Ariel Investments; describes women’s sports as “an undervalued asset class with massive upside” ([41:45])
  • “She’s a baller… come sit at my table. Thank you. Come on the pod.” – Julie ([41:28])

5. Wild Card

• Abby: Rachel Maddow
  • “I want to know more about what she thinks about the true nature of women’s sports and how inherently political they are." ([42:35])
• Julie: Jason Sudeikis (Ted Lasso)
  • Picked for his humor, support of women’s sports, and upcoming season of Ted Lasso featuring a women’s team ([43:44])
  • “He’d be so much fun.” – Julie ([44:20])

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Community, Gratitude, and Reflections

• Listener Thankfulness:
  • Short clips from party people, expressing gratitude for community, authenticity, and the ongoing growth of women’s sports ([47:15]-[49:09]):
    • “I’m thankful for all the women in women’s sports who live their authentic selves.” ([47:41])
    • “Women’s sports made us stronger… the community, the togetherness, everyone uplifting.” ([48:10])
• Abby & Julie’s Gratitude:
  • Abby: Feels inspired by the collective progress and camaraderie in women’s sports, especially the collaborative spirit among former athletes now working in media and business ([49:45]-[51:40]).
  • Julie: Grateful to be part of this unique moment; emphasizes the ongoing need for investment and “pushing for progress,” referencing Billie Jean King’s advice to always build for the next generation ([51:40]-[53:44]).
  • Abby: Thanks Julie for reviving her joy in women’s sports: “Thanks for bringing me back to the joy of sports. It’s been awesome.” ([53:48])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “God help me if I marry into a turkey trot family.” – Abby ([00:01])
• “The world teaches girls to be quiet and small… And women standing up and speaking up. Let’s go!” – Abby and Julie ([00:21]-[00:25])
• “Timing is the hardest part of cooking, folks. I swear.” – Abby ([05:19])
• “She is the root system of the entire tree of women’s sports.” – Abby on Billie Jean King ([30:34])
• “I want to know more about what [Rachel Maddow] thinks about the true nature of women’s sports and how inherently political they are.” – Abby ([42:35])
• “My doctors told me I’d never walk again. My mom told me I would. I believed my mom.” – Wilma Rudolph via Julie ([29:06])
• “Women’s sports… an undervalued asset class with massive upside.” – Mellody Hobson via Julie ([41:28])
• “We disrupted on the field… and now we’re trying to disrupt off the field in our retirements in the media world.” – Abby ([50:30])

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Key Timestamps

• 00:40-03:30 — Thanksgiving traditions and humor
• 05:00-07:00 — Cooking challenges, family rituals
• 07:06-09:34 — Thanksgiving stats with comic commentary
• 10:17-12:08 — Family games, traditions, listener call for submissions
• 21:26-45:10 — Thanksgiving Table Draft: Picks, explanations, banter
• 47:15-49:09 — Listener gratitude for women’s sports (montage)
• 49:45-53:48 — Abby & Julie’s closing reflections on community and gratitude

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Tone & Vibe

Lively, funny, heartfelt, and deeply supportive—this is a podcast that expertly balances irreverent fun with thoughtful conversation, always maintaining optimism and a collaborative, empowering spirit.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a perfect entry point—spotlighting the senses of humor, depth, and camaraderie that define Abby and Julie’s show. It’s an open invitation to join the evolving party that is women’s sports today, to feel gratitude for the journey so far, and to dream about who you’d want at your own table.

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Note: This summary omits advertisements and promotional segments, focusing strictly on the episode’s substance and discussion.

Transcript

[A]

God help me if I marry into a turkey trap family.

[B]

We're gonna do a Thanksgiving table draft, and I'm gonna lose it. Cause I lose freaking everything.

[A]

Will you come and sit at my table? I would love to feed you a Thanksgiving day dinner.

[B]

That's all I want. Emma. Hey.

[A]

No.

[B]

But that is a great one.

[A]

And the world teaches girls to be quiet and small.

[B]

And women standing up and speaking up. Let's go. Yes. Attention.

[A]

The party is about to commence.

[B]

Welcome to the party. What's up, party people? Happy Thanksgiving. I'm Julie Foudy.

[A]

And I'm Abby Wambach. What's going on, party folks? What's up? What's up?

[B]

I hope that you're with family, you're with friends, you're walking, you're doing something great on this Thanksgiving Day, abs. Thanksgiving. I don't know if you know this. You don't know this about me. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. Really? Yeah.

[A]

No, it is. It's not mine.

[B]

No, it's not yours. Because you have to cook the whole time. That's probably why.

[A]

Lots of stuff that I'm doing. Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's not about. Think about that.

[B]

Because you're the cooker. You're the chef.

[A]

Yeah. But in. In all fairness, we order our food.

[B]

And you do.

[A]

It's still a lot because we've got, like, seven things you got to heat up, and you got to plan the timing of the heating, and you got to back end it. And we do. What is your Thanksgiving Day ritual? Like, what is your. You guys are probably like a turkey trot family. Am I wrong?

[B]

Yeah, no, we are. We're turkey trotters.

[A]

Yeah. Do you. Have you ever heard of this? This is like, one of my favorite things.

[B]

You're a turkey trot family.

[A]

You call this out. Somebody says, God help me if I. It's like a joke. It's like, God help me if I get. If I marry into a turkey trot family. And we're a turkey trot family, too.

[B]

That's. That's what Ian says every single damn day. God help me.

[A]

God help me.

[B]

I have married into that damn turkey trot family.

[A]

You are the turkey trotter, though. Like, you're the one that probably fires everybody up to get out there.

[B]

Like, well, and it's not just that. Like, my sister, she's insane. Her and her husband, it's like, okay, we're gonna start and play beach volleyball, then we're gonna go play pickleball. Then who wants to go for a run? Let's Take the dogs for a walk. And he's just like, Ian's British. And he's like, I don't know. In England, one, we don't even have Thanksgiving, too. Yeah, right. Like, we just. When it's colder outside, you just chill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like Christmas time. He's like, you do less. You're not going out. I'm like, no, no. Not how we do. That's not how we do holidays.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

I like Thanksgiving because there are no gifts, and gift giving gets to be a lot for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's stressed about that.

[A]

You can give the gift of presence.

[B]

Right.

[A]

To be somewhere and to go to a party or. I like that. I like that a lot. I just. I have a complicated relationship with Thanksgiving. Only because of the complicated history of Thanksgiving in this country.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

So we tried to. We tried to be conscious and honor, you know, the indigenous folks who. It's just very complicated. And.

[B]

And I get that.

[A]

And that we're like. Like the way that we were taught about Thanksgiving. What I do think is important is to have a day where we are really conscious and grateful and of gratitude. Right, right. And to be with your family and to create the traditions. And in our family, we wake up, we go for a really long walk, and then we come home. And, of course, I don't know if you do this, but we watch the Thanksgiving Day parade. So we record the Thanksgiving Day parade and also the dog show. And so when we get back, we make brunch. Slash, I make brunch. And we then proceed to watch the Thanksgiving Day parade. Brunch consists of pastries, eggs, good bacon. Not the. Not the bacon in the package. You got to get the bacon from the deli. You got to get it from the butcher.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The thick slabs. Thick slabs of bacon. We do some cinnamon rolls.

[B]

Oh, God, you're killing me right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And some stodgy, doughy stuff I love.

[A]

And some fruit. And then now our kids are getting old enough where they can actually, like, cook things. So Chase is going to do the Mac and cheese, and Tish is going to do some baking things and Amazon.

[B]

I think of that. I'm going to divvy up those assignments because that would be good for the kids to learn how to do it.

[A]

Yeah. Not only learn how to do it, but, like, get involved and do it. And. Because there's, like, the thing about. What I love about cooking is that the after, like, there's a lot of hullabaloo going on in the kitchen. There's a Lot of, like, stuff everywhere and planning and organizing and. And timing. Timing is the hardest part of cooking, folks. I swear. But when that's done and, like, everybody's around the table, there is this moment that I'm like, okay, the last six hours of my life have been worth it to get everybody around here happy and doing what we. I think do best and is sitting around a table and just talk.

[B]

Yeah, that. That's the piece I love, too, because you're just together, and it's hard.

[A]

What time do you.

[B]

What time do you guys get all you. All the family together? Like, Izzy's home from college, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tish is coming home from college. Chase is already there, so that's good. But, like, it's hard to get everyone together.

[A]

What time are you guys. What time is your.

[B]

Do it on the earlier side? Like, 5ish.

[A]

Yeah, we're at 4. We go 4.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But this year, I'm going to be smoking a turkey.

[B]

Oh, dang. With your new smoker. Let's go.

[A]

Yeah. Traeger. Traeger Smoker. This is not an ad. It's just. You should get one. I'm just saying.

[B]

I know. I have a friend who has one, and I was like, what is this?

[A]

They're awesome. The new ones are great because, like, they have these probes, like, these temperatures.

[B]

That's what I was gonna say. He had all the temperature probes in all the things.

[A]

Do they have.

[B]

Does that come with it?

[A]

Yeah, you have multiple probes that. That connect straight to the actual grill, and it updates you on your app, so you could be inside and you can see the internal temperature of whatever meat you're cooking. Because the smoking, it's not a perfect science. You have to go with the internal temperature. That's the science.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

So I'm gonna smoke a turkey, which is exciting, but that could delay things, because, like I said, it's not a perfect science. Yeah, when the actual meat's done.

[B]

Well, Abs, I know you're a data person, so I pulled some stats for you, and I know you're a chef.

[A]

Yeah, tell me.

[B]

According to national food surveys compiled by Drive Research and USDA, okay, Americans eat 46 million turkeys on Thanksgiving.

[A]

Oh, geez. I don't know if.

[B]

Oh, I didn't get this. This one kicks.

[A]

You want to be a vegetarian?

[B]

This one I was floored by Americans. Buy 80 million pounds of cranberries. I mean, how many cranberries can you put on your turkey?

[A]

I mean, listen, I don't. I'm not a cranberry person.

[B]

You don't do really do cranberries that much either.

[A]

I mean, you can do.

[B]

It's like just a little bob.

[A]

Yeah, it comes with the dinner. Comes with the thing that we buy from the store. Like the whole package. Yeah, but I never, never, not one time have I used cranberry sauce. Like, what do you put it on?

[B]

Wait, listen to how many pounds of turkey they actually consume. So you've got £80 million. You put it on your turkey is what I put it on. Well, and, and then I mix it in with my mash potatoes. But I don't like, I don't like the canned cranberries. So that's not, you know. But Americans consume. I think this is right. 4. It's a B. 4.96 billion pounds of turkey. B. Not million billion pounds of turkey during Thanksgiving. Oh, God.

[A]

I kind of feel sick about it. So many turkeys, turkeys. Like, what if we just. We got rid of this one holiday or we decided to just go, like, vegetarian? We would save so many lives. And by the way, people, don't come at me with your vegetarianism. I'm not a vegetarian. But just seeing the Stark number makes me feel like maybe we should do something different than Turkey.

[B]

45% of Americans choose pumpkin pie. Only 19% choose apple pie. I'll get off the street.

[A]

But wait, hold on a second. Hold on, hold on, hold on. That's a silly. That's a silly statistic. It's both. Obviously. It's both. Pumpkin pie and apple pie. What are we talking about?

[B]

Yeah, you don't choose one or the other. You take both. You're like, pile it on. Give it to me. Yeah, it's.

[A]

It's way later.

[B]

Give me that ice cream, too. I want it all on top of.

[A]

That apple pie and whipped cream. Of course we do.

[B]

And I do want that whipped cream.

[A]

I'm not a whipped cream lover, but. Yeah, but like, like this is a silly statistic.

[B]

Okay? So here's the statistics. Here's the final one I'm going to give you.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

You need to walk. That walk you do needs to be four hours.

[A]

Wait, no, it says you need to run four hours.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you need to run for a walk. 30 miles.

[A]

What?

[B]

You need to. So when you go on that nice little stroll with the family, it needs to be 30 miles to walk all that off? No, we're not walking any of it off. Well, if you're in my family are. You're trotting it off. You're volleyballing it off. You're pickleballing it off. You're then Iron man triathloning it off because Chrissy and Ryan want to do it all.

[A]

That's a. That's a. How old are Chrissy and Ryan?

[B]

Chrissy's four years older than me, so she's 58, and I think Ryan's 50. Same 58.

[A]

Were you guys.

[B]

They are born fit.

[A]

They are so born this way.

[B]

Yes. Rowdy Fowdies, man.

[A]

This.

[B]

We do a lot. We don't.

[A]

And does Ian feel bad about himself a lot?

[B]

He's like, no. He's just like, oh, my God, I'm gonna cook. He's like, you guys do your thing. I'm gonna cook. I'm curious what the party people are doing. So can you send in what you're doing? What are you guys doing for Thanksgiving? What's your tradition? And should we be adding something to what we're doing? I mean, not in terms of physical. Like, I don't need to be doing any more sports, but, like, what's. We do play some fun games, too. That's how. Remember the ping pong, twerk, twerking of our Ally House live podcast? And that's where I hear about this. Listen to the last episode on Tuesday. Yeah, we do fun games, so we do a lot of Pictionary. And.

[A]

You know what? Our daughter. Our daughter just came home the other day and this sounded like pretty fun. And I don't know what the name of it is, so party people, if you know it, let us know. It is. It is a game of. It's like telephone, but drawing. It's like the telephone game, but you draw.

[B]

And then the next person has to draw it.

[A]

Yes, something like that.

[B]

And it goes what they think it.

[A]

Is, and you have to guess what it is. And I don't know.

[B]

Do you tell them what it is and then they draw it?

[A]

I don't know. She was trying to explain.

[B]

I like that it is.

[A]

We're going to try to get, get, get it.

[B]

Do you ever play left, right, center?

[A]

All the time, yes.

[B]

Yeah. With the money.

[A]

But now the kids are older that they're like, can we put more money in here? Right. Because back in the day, it used to be quarters, and now it's dollars.

[B]

And we used to do dollars, and now we do $5.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And it gets really exciting. All of a sudden, Declan's like, look out, people. Give me the left.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Jules, you want to know why I love it so much?

[B]

Yeah. Why?

[A]

Because it's giving me a lot of confidence. Because all I do is I keep winning, winning, winning, winning, winning.

[B]

All I do is win, win, win, no matter what.

[A]

What? I've beaten you 2, 2, 0. You're 0 and 2. And the other thing that I really love about it is actually when I come downstairs, which is where I do a lot of my work, my family, they're all on it. They're just on it. They love it. It's like it's a whole family affair.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[A]

My wild card is questionable, but I'm going with it. So. Okay.

[B]

You mean in terms of connection to the women's sports universe?

[A]

Yeah, there's very tinge. It's very tangential.

[B]

Tangential. Okay.

[A]

But you're going to love it.

[B]

Good word.

[A]

I think you're going to really love it.

[B]

Yeah, that's okay. I like that. I'll allow that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And. And we're gonna tell why we wanted them at the table. Of course. So five people at the table. A current athlete, a legend, a coach, an executive or owner. And the fifth one is a wild card. And then at the end, we're gonna put a pull up and I'm gonna lose it because I lose frickin everything to Abigail Wombach. But we're gonna put this poll up and it's gonna say, what table would you like to sit at for Thanksgiving? Julie's table or Abby's table? And y' all are gonna click on Julie's table so she actually wins one damn contest.

[A]

I'm actually fighting for you right now. Like, I do think you need to win. I think it's important for your self confidence.

[B]

For my self esteem. God, bloody heck. I don't even want to go over. Like, I don't want to go back to ping pong twerking because I'm still upset about it. Someone in the front row told Abby, I am going back to it. Someone in the front row told Abby how to tie her tissue box on. I said, they didn't give me that information because it was really good information. Insider information.

[A]

The truth is the way that that actually happened, Jules, was I was tying it on and I was moving my body and I was like, but it's not the bat. The box isn't moving that much. And I looked to my right and the lady said, put it lower on your butt. It'll make the box move more. And when I. When I look at the cold, When I look at the video of you, Julie, I just can't stop laughing because you're. You're like moving your hips and you tied it so tight around your waist that the box is not moving in any way, shape, or form. I'm like, nothing is coming out of that tissue box. No ping pong balls are coming out.

[B]

And all.

[A]

All four of us are like.

[B]

And I should know this. I've played this game with my kids.

[A]

Yeah. Are the worst twerkers that have ever twerked, you know, so good. Anyways, let's, let's, let's all Right.

[B]

This table. What do you got? What's your current athlete? You want to go first?

[A]

Yeah, I'll go first. I'll go first. Okay. My current athlete. My first current athlete is Caitlin Clark. I would like to meet her. I've never met her. Yeah, I know that she is. She represents the present and the future of sports all at once. In a way, not only is she an incredible athlete, but the ability to also, you know, to. To relate to. To the world. Right. To the brands. To be this, like, conduit between athlete and. And consumer. I'm just, like, fascinated about her. I also know that she plays golf and is very good.

[B]

She's a good swing. I've seen that. Yeah.

[A]

I. I think she's pretty close to being a scratch golfer.

[B]

You know, she was a soccer player as well.

[A]

She did play soccer, which is probably the least interesting. It's like the least interesting part about her.

[B]

Still makes me rad.

[A]

Yeah, but she grew up, you know, watching Billie Jean King and Serena, our generation, and is now kind of becoming that for the next generation in. In many ways. So. Caitlin Clark, will you come and sit at my table? I would love to feed you a Thanksgiving Day dinner.

[B]

Okay. Okay. You're.

[A]

You know what we should do?

[B]

You're laying it on thick, huh?

[A]

I know, but we should actually create these little clips on social and ask them to come sit at our table and maybe they'll come on our show. Yeah.

[B]

Come to our Thanksgiving party. Yeah, I like it. Okay. I'm gonna match. I like Caitlyn Clark. That's a really good one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And for the record, party people, I don't know who's Abby's five picks are coming into this at all. This is blind. And she doesn't know my five, but I had a feeling that one of us was choosing Caitlin Clark. So I'm gonna match Caitlin Clark with Asia Wilson. Oh, yes.

[A]

I am. Nice. You are good. Yeah, that was. That was my second. That's who I was gonna choose. Second.

[B]

Yeah. Four time mvp. Wnba. Besides being MVP of the entire wnba, she's co. Defensive player of the year. Know that as well. It's so rad. And she's won the defensive player of the year title.

[A]

So we.

[B]

We just established she's set a record by winning four times as mvp, but she's also has three career defensive player of the year awards. And the thing. I mean, beyond the basketball, Asia has a vibe to her that I love. She gets in press conference, huh?

[A]

She was just at the Las Vegas Grand Prix. Did you See that? And met Beyonce and. Oh, that was a moment.

[B]

Did you see her? I did not see that. But did you see her on the Jennifer Hudson show when she comes down the, like, little Runway where they walk down and they enter them?

[A]

Oh, they do, like, a little. She walks through the crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

She walks through the crowd. It was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is so good. They were singing this little South Carolina song, and she's just, like, bopping all the way down. I just love her. And then when she's at breast. At press conferences, not breast conferences. That's fitting, actually, because whenever she gets with Becky, him and her coach, and she says balls out loud, she turns to Becky and they start, like, giggling like kids. And I just lose it. I get there giggling with them. Oh, my God. I love.

[A]

I mean, it is true that us athletes are children. We never really grow up.

[B]

Yeah. But she, she just makes me laugh. She carries a lot of joy. She's great leader and amazing. I, I. Asia Wilson, will you come sit at my Thanksgiving table?

[A]

Nice, Jules. I think I'm gonna give you the next one up because I was. I wonder who you chose for this. A legend.

[B]

Okay. Are you letting me go first?

[A]

Okay, yeah, I'm gonna let you go first.

[B]

Okay. I chose Wilma Rudolph.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's good. I did a project on her when I was, like, in eighth grade.

[B]

Billie Jean talks about her. The King talks about her all the time. And I just love this so much because she has one of my favorite quotes of all time. Okay, so Wilma Rudolph, you know, is like, this great track and field athlete. She won three Olympic gold medals at the Rome Games in 1960. First American sprinter to do that. Maybe even actually first American athlete. Yeah, I think first American woman to do that anyways. Three Olympic gold medals at the rome Olympics in 1960. And Wilma Rudolph was born with childhood polio. So the doctors. Yes, the doctors. This is my favorite quote. The doctors actually told her, like, you're not going to be able to maybe even walk. And her quote is, my doctors told me I never walk again. My mom told me I would. I believed my mom.

[A]

Oh, my gosh, that's good.

[B]

And then she goes on to be one of the most iconic female athletes that we've ever had. So my legend, for sure, because, gosh, I have so many questions. Wilma Rudolph, of course, is no longer with us, but Wilma Rudolph, I would love at our table.

[A]

That's so good, Jules. And I don't remember, by the way, I did the project on William Wilma Rudolph. But I don't remember anything about it.

[B]

Yeah, because. Because that's what happens when you're.

[A]

Because that was 30 years.

[B]

Wait till you're. You're in your 50s.

[A]

Okay. The person that I chose, legendary status. And I chose this mostly this is selfish because as the host of this table, I want everybody else at the table to feel like that I've created the best table and that they are excited to all to come. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I chose Billie Jean King.

[B]

I know. I knew it. I was like, that's too easy. I was going to choose the legend.

[A]

Every single one of the people that I invite to this table is coming because Billy's there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I want to ensure that everybody comes. Like, this is. I don't want to be the host that, that nobody shows up for. And we, we obviously love Billie. She's. She's in it. In it to win it with us on this podcast. But the. The truth is, is like, she is the root system of the entire tree of women's sports.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She. She's done it all. Like, she has. She's been and had her hands in on so many things, and to be able to like, do this show and have her join us, honestly, it's like one of the greatest things that I've been able to do in my whole career. It's like kind of the biggest. Like when I say, what like Jules, when I'm out in the world and people are like, oh, what are you doing? And I'm like, oh, yeah. I have a podcast with Billie Jean King and Julie Fatty that people are like, what? I got of almost anything else that I do.

[B]

Not because of the second person you named. Because it's like, who? Kinger.

[A]

What? Kinger. What?

[B]

I know, I know.

[A]

I mean, she's just. She will always and forever be the person that should be at every women's sports table. Because not only did she kind of single handedly create the desire and the need to build your own table, like, she's also creating so many opportunities and the motivation and the inspiration that other people might need to start their new team or league or whatever it is, she's just.

[B]

All right, all right. We know your table's good. Okay. Okay. We know your table's good.

[A]

I know that we're probably going to have. I've got two down for this coaching. You go ahead, you go first. Because I do want you to win this one, Jules. I really do.

[B]

You're feeling bad for me. Okay. I did a lot of soul searching for this one because there's so many great coaches that you could go to, right? Pat Summit, of course was on the top of that list. But then I thought, like, let's do someone a little more current. And so I went with Emma Hayes. There's only one Emma Hayes. There's only one Emma Hayes. Because talk about like you want to be at a table that Emma's at because Emma is pure entertainment. That woman is funny, she's smart as hell, she's so well spoken and she's, she's silly as shit. Like she's funny, she's good, she's good fun. That's, that's a good person to have at the table. Now for the party people who don't know who Emma Hayes is. Emma Hayes is our U. S. Women's national team soccer coach. And before she came to the United States to bear coach, she was the coach at Chelsea, the women's team in the English Women's super league. She won 16 trophies while she was at at Chelsea. Seven league titles, the Women's Super League titles, five FA Cups, two League Cups. Amongst those 16. So she's a total baller and it was kind of a full circle moment when she came back to the United States because she had coached in the United States prior to Chelsea, had gotten fired. She was in what the second was that the second wasn't WSA days, right? WPS days, I think. WPS Yeah, I think I should know this. And then she comes back and ends up with hardly any games under her belt. I think they had eight games, 10 games. And she wins an Olympic gold medal with the US Women's national team. And she's really transforming how this team thinks, how they operate, how they build out their youth national team. I mean, she's not only doing a great job coaching the full women's national team, she's looking at all the gaps in the system and going, how can we make this better? And like she's so smart. And then you couple that with Michelle Kang and what she's doing in this space and how she's given $55 million to U.S. soccer. So Emma Hayes at her arsenal is, has the ability to look at all of sports with this female lens and say, let's think about it differently. Let's think about menstruation. Let's think about how we're researching and the science behind the things we're getting to with with female athletes because that's often done on male bodies or male data, as we know. So it's really. She's gonna. She's a good one at the table. You're jealous.

[A]

She's a good one.

[B]

I can see you're jealous.

[A]

I am jealous. She was. She was my pick. She was. Yeah, she was my pick. But I have a secondary that I'm gonna go into because she's just as important to me personally and has had, I think, such an important role in women's soccer over the years. So, yeah, this is. This is not to say that they're second. This is. This is a person that I think deserves to be at this table. She was one of my favorite coaches of all times, Pia Sundaga. She was born in Sweden and played for their full team. She coached us from 2000. Gosh, what was that? 2008 to 2012 or 13. Right after we won the gold. Gold medal, she decided to step away. And, you know, one of the reasons why I think Pia was such an important figure in my life at the time is that she really gave me the. Gave me permission to be myself. And I think, you know, women's sports has had, like, this really interesting trajectory because you have some of these, like, incredible talented athletes who come, and then, you know, some of these talented athletes retire and they go on to be coaches. And Pia is one of these folks. And. And I think that's why it's so important that former athletes need to stay in the game in some way, shape or form, whether it's the. The coaching staff or the ownership group or training, whatever it is. I just think that we have to. We have to stay involved. And Pia has stayed involved in the coaching level, but she really allowed. I think that she understood that in a locker room, you have to be yourself. Too often in women's sports, I think that in the locker room, coaches and ownership groups think that there needs to be some sort of like. Like the way to set culture is to tell people of who they need to be, rather than letting the. The players be themselves and letting all the individual parts of themselves create the actual culture. And. And that's what makes every team so special, is, like, every person gets to bring their individuality to that specific team.

[B]

That's what makes Emma so good, too.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And I think that that is the thing that Pia really brought to me, that all of our individual parts will make the collective better. And we did. I think that it's one of the best teams that. That I ever played on was. Was being coached by her and her mentality to positivity. So, yeah, I love You, Pia and I would love to have you come on this podcast at some point.

[B]

Nice. All right, who do you got for your exact owner or owner?

[A]

I have Michelle Kang. I just don't think that you. Yeah, I don't think that you can have anybody else. I know that there are a lot of other.

[B]

Wait till you hear mine, though. Yes. I was like, Kang is like the obvious for sure.

[A]

Yeah, she's. She's just, she's spectacular and she's taking the approach that this is why female ownership is also so important. To have an ownership group that really believes that women and their physiology, physiology and the way that they approach the game and their actual experience of being a person is different. And so too must differ all of the training methodology and the idea around what we're doing. She's put so much money into women's soccer and also women's sports. Have seen her invest in and the water polo team and rugby. She wants women to have more resources and she's putting kind of her. She's putting the resources to the, to the places and trusting. Right. She's also like, go ahead, here's my money dotting tons of money to U.S. soccer, to specifically the women's teams. So she's just, she's my favorite. I love Michelle. Slow clap for. Who do you got, Jules? Who's at. Who's at your table?

[B]

Okay, so my executive slash owner. I don't know her, but I am dying to meet her. So this is my way of saying Melody Hobson, please, please come on the podcast because. Okay, so Melody is. Is such a badass abs. She, after she graduated from Princeton, right. She was from Chicago and she began at Ariel Investments, which is basically a firm that manages billions of dollars of investment money. And, and she's worked her way up to now she's co CEO and president at Ariel. It's the largest black owned investment firm in the United States. And she's also the founder of Project Level, which is Ariel Investments, new fund dedicated entirely to accelerating growth in, yes, you know it, women's sports. She's a. She has a minority stake in NWSL's new Denver franchise, Denver Summit FC. She's personally invested in Love Volleyball League 1 volleyball. She's personally invested in WNBA. And she describes, which is really cool, she describes women's sports as an undervalued asset class with massive upside. As we know as female athletes, we're like, yes, this is what we've been saying. Massive upside in viewership, attendance, valuation. So she's like, get in People. And she's been. She's just such a baller. She's the former chair of Starbucks, first black woman to chair AN S&P 500 company. She has sat on the board of DreamWorks, Estee Lauder, JPMorgan Chase. And she. I. I. The first time I listened to her was on a Rod's podcast, and I was like, I love this woman so much. I don't even know this woman, and I love this woman so much.

[A]

Let's get her on the podcast.

[B]

I know Melody. Like, she's got a vibe. She's awesome. Like, she does a ton to give back to the community. So, Melody, come sit at my table. Thank you. Come on. The pod. She's right.

[A]

Okay. Do you want me to do my very last pick?

[B]

Yeah. Wild card.

[A]

Wild card. And look, this is a. This is a couple steps away. I mean, not too far.

[B]

All right.

[A]

But I just want to have dinner with this person because, oh, my God.

[B]

If you choose my person, I'm gonna be so upset.

[A]

There's no way that it'll be weird.

[B]

I know, and I think you did. Gosh dang it. This. I don't know why I feel this vibe, but I just can get in this vibe.

[A]

Rachel Maddow.

[B]

Oh, no, but that is a great one, because, you know, I love me some Rachel Maddow.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Stanford card.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

We were just. We were just talking. Abby and I were just talking about her the other day together in the car.

[A]

I want her. I want to know more.

[B]

True. That's so good. Yeah.

[A]

I want to know more about what she thinks about the true nature of women's sports and how inherently political they are. Right. Like how a woman putting on a jersey and going out onto a field and sweating and being powerful and demanding the ball and, you know, like, all of these things that we were kind of taught not to do over. Over the years in the world. Teaches girls to be quiet and small and to be grateful and only, you know, like, women's.

[B]

We're standing up and speaking up. Let's go. Yes.

[A]

The antithesis. And I think that Rachel Maddow is kind of a perfect example of somebody also doing that in. In. In. In media and. And talking about politics. She would drive a really interesting conversation at this table.

[B]

Yes. We've got two really good tables. I'm not gonna lie.

[A]

I agree. Okay, Jules, who do you think? Who. Who's your last.

[B]

Okay, so my. My wild card is Ted Lasso. Jason Sudeikis.

[A]

Okay, so.

[B]

Jason Sudeikis. I would like at Our table. You know, he's going to be so entertaining.

[A]

That would be funny.

[B]

He is so supportive of so many different leagues and women's sports. And season four is about AFC Richmond's women's team coming up that they're shooting right now. I just. I have so many questions, so I would. I think. And he would be so much fun. So I've got Ted Lasso, Jason Sudeikis as my wild card at my table.

[A]

What do you think of that, Jules? I love it. Okay, so you had. Let's just go this over this again. You had Asia, who was your legend.

[B]

My legend was Wilma.

[A]

Wilma. And then you had Emma, and then you had Melody, and then you had Ted Lasso. Okay, good. I did. Caitlin Clark, bjk Pia Sundahaga, Michelle Kang, and Rachel Maddow. Now this also, I just want to say this because people are going to have feelings about our table. We're trying. We were trying to have some fun here, folks. Like, we're not trying to be exclusionary. There's our. There's. There's hundreds of other people we could have chosen. And. And frankly, we might have. We might do this once a month. We might choose a table. It might be a different kind of table. It's not going to be Thanksgiving dinner.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But don't come at us. We're just trying to have fun here. Okay.

[B]

I'm not even worried. I've stopped worrying about people coming at me a long time ago. Abs. Okay. And don't forget, we're going to put a little poll up there because we are competitive, sadly, so. And I'll use this one again. And I. It's okay. I'm gonna be okay with it. I'm just gonna accept it.

[A]

I just don't think.

[B]

Actually, I think I have a chance. I have a chance.

[A]

I think that. Julie, you do have a chance on this one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is. This. Yeah. You're gonna. You're gonna likely beat me in more thoughtful things like this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As to. You know what? Didn't you beat me in the draft?

[B]

I did. I did. That was my only win. You're right.

[A]

You did.

[B]

The last time we drafted the WNBA mock draft.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I do think you beat me there. See? It's hope.

[B]

I got hope.

[A]

Yeah. I. I have hope for you, too. I truly do.

[B]

I have hope. All right. We're gonna move on from the meal to the meaning. Abs.

[A]

And that's a good segue. Yeah. Or segue, as my wife would call it. You know? Do you know she reads so much. Have you heard this story? No. Okay, so Glennon thought that there were two different words for segue and they were spelled differently. Yeah. Because she oftentimes a lot of readers, like people who read a lot, they don't pronounce some words correctly because they. They read it a certain way. And that's the way that they. And so she just. The word segue, she always thought was seguin anyways.

[B]

Well, I can see how that happens when you see it actually spelled out. So, yeah, she thought she's.

[A]

She thought a segue was the thing you rode. Right? You know, the electronic thing.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

And that a segu was when you want to go from like one thought to another or one topic to another.

[B]

Well, at the end of the day, it's called Thanksgiving. So we took the party to the street and ask some of the party people, what are you most thankful about in women's sports? And here's what they said. I'm thankful. My daughter introduced me to women soccer. She lives in Australia. I live in Kansas City. She came all the way over here for this championship, just for this.

[A]

I'm thankful for all the women and women's sports who live their authentic selves. We just got married this year, and so many of the women in women's sports have been so inspirational for us.

[B]

Thankful for the community of women's sports. Great sports to watch.

[A]

I am so thankful for women's sports because it made it show that women are strong and can hold it together. We are a community, and together, it brought us together and made us stronger. And that is what I'm grateful for. The community, the togetherness, everyone, everyone's uplifting.

[B]

And so positive, and it's just such.

[A]

A feel good space to be in. It's given me so much, and I'm just so happy to be here.

[B]

Thankful for the women that have pioneered the women's sports. And now we're really in the forefront now, and we're gonna only get bigger. What are you Birdie and Juju most thankful for with women's sports? I like that, like, they're kind of like my role model into playing the game. The thing that I'm most grateful for, that I always will put in my jaw of thankfulness is soccer. I've been playing since I was like 2 years old. In your jar of thankfulness. I love that. I want a jar of thankfulness that's so good. And it's soccer. Yeah. Yes. My jar of thankfulness is you two. Okay. I'm gonna put it in my jar of thankfulness.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

Abby.

[A]

God.

[B]

Okay, Birdie. Come on, Birdie.

[A]

Juju, her friend of thankfulness.

[B]

Is that the cutest?

[A]

I love our people.

[B]

Okay, final thing. I do too. Final thing. And we do want to hear from you part of people. So email us at. And I'm not closing this out yet. I'm just reminding us about the email party people, questionsmail.com so send us what you're thankful for in women's sports. What are you thankful for? Abs, before we close it out in women's sports.

[A]

Well, I think that I felt this way the entire weekend at the NWSL championship weekend. There's just so, like, I feel equal parts incredibly grateful and then also equal parts incredibly inspired. There are so many more brands that are investing to make the weekend as special as it, as it looks for fans to come, for fans to come for the whole weekend. Not just the game, right? The, the, the former, the former players that come back for these championship games, the things that they're involving themselves in, the, the media landscape that they're trying to tap into, like, all of us are. I just find it to be so incredibly awesome to have spent our life's work doing this thing, trying to help create the thing, and now we're also trying to help create the thing that's going to also help, right? The media thing. Like we disrupted on the field while we played, and now we're trying to disrupt off the field in our retirements in the media world and to see so many of us doing it. And what I think is very different than men's sports is we're doing this together. You know, Sarah Spain, Megan Rapinoe, Sue Bird, Sam Mewis, all of these, Kelly o', Hara, like all these other Lori Lindsay, all these people who have their own shows or are broadcasting. Like, we're trying to help each other, we're trying to build each other up and doing this thing really collectively together because I think that that's how we win. So I just felt so re. Energized by this weekend. How about you, Jules?

[B]

Yeah, I, I, I think that is the one thing I, I kept thinking. I'm like, I'm so grateful and thankful that we're able to be a small part of this amazing moment we're living in that is like, we've been talking about, like, nothing we've seen. But yet I still think, as Andrea Bremmer said in the live podcast at the Allah House, like, yes, things are good, good. Not great, not great, not great. Like, only 6% of Fortune 500 companies are actually investing in women's sports, which tells you how much is still out there in terms of the growth that I think this space is. Is going to get to. I don't think we're there. So. And the. So I'm really thankful that we have this podcast and we're a small part of it in trying to help with. Because I do think all of that matters, as you just pointed out, all different people doing podcasts. But I'm also grateful for the athletes who constantly. And it's innate to us, who constantly still push and push and push for progress. Right. Because it's gotta come from both sides. And I wish there was a day that the athletes didn't have to push as hard, but that is still the reality. And we're great at it because it's innate to us. This is what we've been having to do our whole lives. And now you're seeing all these women who I love to see. I'm so grateful that they're starting businesses and they're entrepreneurs and they're owners and they're starting leagues, and, I mean, it's crazy how much they're doing, but I hope at the end of the day, I go back to bjk. Like, you have a blank canvas, and how are you building the sport better, not just for you, but for the next generation? Because you're really not going to reap it. The next generation is. But I think where women athletes think, how are we building a better world? And that's what I'm here for.

[A]

And both. We get to do both. It's good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jules, I love this episode. And, you know, more than anything, I just want to say I feel really grateful and thankful to you. You've kind of brought me back into the women's sports world. You've opened me up again to all this incredible stuff. The world has changed, and you've been here all along. So I just. Thanks for bringing me back to the joy of women's sports. It's been awesome.

[B]

It's so fun. And you know what? Everyone's like, you guys have so much fun together. I go, I know. And it's real. Like, it's. It's super fun. This is not work, people. This is joy. So thank you. All right, party people. I wish you all the happiest of Thanksgivings. We wish you no fighting, no anger, just love that you're. You're spreading around the table with the family, your friends. Tell them how much they mean to you in your life, mend something that's been bugging you, right? Do something good for someone else. That's what Thanksgiving is all about. And while you're at it, go on and subscribe to that YouTube channel so you can see all the fun happening. That little bell icon gives you updates if you click on that as well.

[A]

And we would appreciate it if you can rate. Leave a comment and subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And be sure to follow us on TikTok and Instagram @ welcome to the Party show where Julie, Billy and I will bring the party straight to your feed. You can also email us at party people questions gmail.com Again, thanks, Kate Diaz, for our theme music. And here, Jules, bring your paws in. We're gonna do an U.S.A. uSA. Ah. On three. Are you ready?

[B]

Turkey trotters.

[A]

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