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Gareth Reynolds
And we are back.
Jake Johnson
This is the post Mike Sarah episode Monday morning. Let's introduce our producer this year, Rob Wobby Wob.
Gareth Reynolds
And you see how he said this year just to keep you on your toes, Rob, nothing's locked in just this year.
Jake Johnson
Well, look, that's what, that's what Wobby Wob wants too. That's the dance, baby. We could pretend that, you know, Barb over here is drawing it, but this, if this is Shark Tank, he's for sure Mark Cuban.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, absolutely.
Jake Johnson
That's his.
Gareth Reynolds
And I, and I. I remain the guy in ski gear at the enders. Not sure what's happening.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, you know what his vibe could be. Rob, if you were on Shark Tank, who would your character be? Are you one of the main five or are you one of those guys like the guy who created Kind bars?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Are you the guy who. Yeah, I'm gonna have to admit, I don't know who any of the five producers. Well, that's why we're going year to year with you. We just discovered we're not on the same page at all.
Jake Johnson
But we appreciate you being here this year with us. It's Been fun to have you. We also have liked the calls this year. It's been really fun and we're trying to connect follow ups to the episode. And we also heard everyone's complaint about putting ads in the middle of the call. And we worked with Headgum, our sales agents, and we're not gonna do it. They said that we can get away from that. So we hear it, everybody.
Gareth Reynolds
So we're here to help you guys. Rob, let me ask you this. When.
Jake Johnson
When you.
Gareth Reynolds
When you heard that we were interested. And again, I'm posturing like Shark Tank. You were obviously a fan of the show. Yeah. You'd listen to the show before that?
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Hannah
Tom.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So you'd listen to a little attitude with. Yeah, a ton.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
This is off the guys wearing orange right now.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. The orange guys are turning red. Listen a lot of podcasts, so I don't listen to a ton of podcasts.
Rob Wobby Wob
Outside of what's being produced, but I. Very aware of the show and I know I was. Yeah, I'm a fan of both of you.
Gareth Reynolds
Did you. Did you. And now you have told me that you're going back and listening to some. You're doing that a little bit, right?
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Your homework. Yeah. Yep. Favorite episode from season one. Rob, just so we can. I mean, we just want to make sure we're dealing with someone who's an honest.
Jake Johnson
That's like asking somebody their favorite storyline from a TV show they've never watched and watching them go, well, it was when the Frasier man said that he was ready to be a psychiatrist and the bartender man, Ted Danson man.
Gareth Reynolds
Just adding man to every occupation.
Jake Johnson
When you watch somebody fall apart, it is enjoyable.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, you know, I've. This is one thing I realized watching the original Office. I was like, you know, one of my favorite things to do or like to watch is to watch an actor lying when we know he's he or she is lying. That brings me such joy to be like, watch someone fibbing on camera.
Jake Johnson
I mean, the not funny version of it, but the very funny version of it. The not funny in context, but the very funny. Oh, yeah, that's why it's funny to Catch a Predator.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God.
Jake Johnson
It is the grossest context. I don't. Well, because Chris Hansen is a comedic genius and the show brought down predators. And what I like about it is I like the end where they get arrested and then they have to call their. Their wives. But there is a moment of comedy in all those episodes when these guys are saying all these things via Email. Then they get busted. And then they pretend they weren't doing what they were doing. They'll go like, are you kidding me? Yeah, I came here because this 15 year old boy is alone. I was going to help with his homework. And they go worried he could.
Gareth Reynolds
Some guy can come over here and try to be rude with him. And in a.
Jake Johnson
They go like a 40 year old guy like you? And they'll go like, exactly what? And they go, so why do you have eight jars of whipped cream? And they're like, for cherry pie.
Gareth Reynolds
Are you kidding? How much are you kidding?
Jake Johnson
What do you mean by salesmen?
Gareth Reynolds
I need those.
Jake Johnson
The. Are you kidding me? When caught, a lie is always.
Gareth Reynolds
It was entrapment, which is why the show stopped. But it was like, we were all like, we're actually okay with this entrapment. It is. Get these guys out of here. And also the idea of sitting in a house, drinking lemonade, lying to a guy from Dateline and you don't know while outside a cop is in a bush outfit or like dressed up like a hill and just like pops up with a machine. You were just like, man, these guys.
Jake Johnson
Or how about the acting gig? You're an actor in your late 20s, but you can play 14.
Gareth Reynolds
And always with the like, I'm just throwing some laundry and I'll be right back.
Jake Johnson
And then the creep's like, can I get a quick hug? Well, let me go in this weird back room really fast. Well, just one hug.
Gareth Reynolds
A lot of curtains over those doorways. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You said you really liked Mountain Dew. I have a two liter. Okay, I'm gonna go in the back. What are you doing here? Me? Just delivering Mountain Dew.
Gareth Reynolds
A grown ass man. Why don't you sit down? And you're just like, yeah, for sure I'll sit down. I mean, I love to sit.
Jake Johnson
And then it's. And then the point where they go, am I allowed to leave? And he goes, yes, I am. Okay, great. And then the cops come on. The guy's like, son of a bitch.
Gareth Reynolds
Or what about. Or what about the ones where the guys would be like, is this, is this Dateline?
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Like where you'd get recognized? Like, I'm not going to answer that.
Jake Johnson
If the, if the, the crime wasn't so grotesque. It is just such a funny character introduction to meet somebody in like a movie where Chris Hansen comes out. Like, I wish Chris Hansen was doing it for like insurance fraud. Something where you're actually.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, because when they got rid of the show, Chris Hansen was like, but that's All I been doing.
Jake Johnson
This is his whole.
Gareth Reynolds
So then they did like a version where he was catching, like, Internet scammers. And he would just be like, in Kenya. And he would be like, can I talk? Does anyone here want lemonade? And they would just be like, get out of here. You know, it's a much. It just wasn't satisfaction of those.
Jake Johnson
Although I will say I kind of. I'm kind of a Chris Hansen fan in terms of his tone.
Gareth Reynolds
I. I would.
Jake Johnson
I would go down the road and watch him bust other people. Because he puts you in your place so quickly and he acts surprised that you're surprised.
Gareth Reynolds
He, he. He had all the power in a situation where there were these guys who were like, I'm pretty sure I'm in charge. Like, there's one guy who pounds a whole pizza. Like, he's like trying to posture like, dude, I'm not that nervous.
Jake Johnson
That's exactly right.
Gareth Reynolds
So he just eats a whole pizza.
Jake Johnson
What are you going to do in that moment of utter. And then when the camera that come out, you have to pretend like, don't care.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, whatever. Don't care that I still will have my insurance job Monday morning.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Don't care that this is the most humiliating life.
Gareth Reynolds
All those emails.
Jake Johnson
I'm glad those emails are coming out.
Gareth Reynolds
So what, he read the chat. So what? He just read the whole chat and he stacks of paper.
Jake Johnson
And then I love when they go. And how old did you think, you know, Jared was in? He goes, 18. And then they go, well, the text said, you're 14. Is that cool? And you wrote af. And he goes like, right. No, that was a mistake. I thought that was a joke. I thought that was a joke.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, there.
Jake Johnson
Gross.
Gareth Reynolds
There's like a group now on, like, online who do basically do that.
Jake Johnson
I've seen it. And then they beat the people up.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, they, they. It's really crazy.
Jake Johnson
Really crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, again, well, there's no defending.
Jake Johnson
I know. It's. It's such a hard thing.
Gareth Reynolds
It is if you're just like, Jesus Christ. Everybody, everybody calm down.
Rob Wobby Wob
Right?
Jake Johnson
It's the whole thing in jail where you hear, like, pedophiles get it so bad in jail. And you're always like, culturally, you're like, well, yeah, yeah, that's in, like. What were you gonna say, Rob? We're still talking about Shark Tank, right?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. Yeah. You've never seen the Tank? No, I haven't seen.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. So Gareth is Robert, obviously.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm a big. Yes. Ander. And I'll Try everything. I think I'm younger than I am and it's pretty annoying.
Jake Johnson
Meant to link Rob to the show. Gareth, who is he? He's not Damon. He's not? No, he's not. Lori.
Gareth Reynolds
He's not Mr. Wonderful, and that's a good thing.
Jake Johnson
I think he. I think he's like the kind bar.
Gareth Reynolds
Guy'S a good one.
Jake Johnson
The kind bar guy's a good one.
Gareth Reynolds
You know who he could be?
Jake Johnson
Who?
Gareth Reynolds
Kutcher.
Jake Johnson
That's a. Ash. You. You just got Ashton Kutcher, man.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm punking you, Rob. I'm punking you. This is the intro with all the TV references. Well, we really are. We'll think of who you are, but we really are glad to have you, Rob, and appreciate it all. Really. Yeah. And you got a bunch of shoes back there and that's important to us.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Well, let's get into the show. What do you guys say?
Gareth Reynolds
Nah.
Jake Johnson
Without further ado.
Gareth Reynolds
Hello.
Hannah
Hello. Hey.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey there. Welcome to the show. Can we get your name, age, where you're calling from, please? Wow.
Hannah
Yes, my name is Hannah.
Gareth Reynolds
Very quick. Okay.
Hannah
My name is Hannah, I'm 30 and I'm from Portland, Oregon.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, beautiful.
Jake Johnson
So, Hannah, Hannah, 30, Portland. What do you do for work, Hannah?
Hannah
Well, I am a veteran and I'm a stay at home mom and I'm going to school right now.
Jake Johnson
Okay, you're a veteran. That's as cool as it gets. And how many kids you got?
Hannah
I have two kids.
Jake Johnson
Two kids, how old?
Hannah
Eight and four.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so you got a baby too. So, Hannah, what can we do for you today?
Hannah
Oh, well, I'm being bullied by the local librarian.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Welcome to it.
Hannah
And I just. I'm calling you guys because I. I need advice about how I can tactfully demand respect from this book jockey without messing up my current situation.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I get it.
Gareth Reynolds
What's. What is your current situation? And when you say bullying, how intense is this? Are we talking funny bullying?
Jake Johnson
Walk us through it.
Hannah
Well, so the situation is, it's a little bit layered. So I'm finishing up my senior year, College. I need 300 hours of volunteer work. But because I'm a stay at home mom, I have a 4 year old who's like always, always with me. Right. The librarian is my son's school librarian, and she lets me volunteer there to, you know, fulfill that requirement for school. And she lets me bring my daughter with me. So it's. It's very, very helpful. It didn't. I didn't know. It didn't Start out as bullying. It kind of started out like she was micromanaging me, which I was like, absolutely. This is your library, like, however you need it. And when I'm. When I'm there, like, I'm there to work. I'm very efficient, and I'm there to, like, get things done for her. But then it kind of started to turn. She was having me do a lot of things, but then taking credit for them.
Jake Johnson
Okay, first of all, before we go any further, Hannah, what's this library? And let's give her a name.
Hannah
Let's call her Denise.
Jake Johnson
Denise. And what's an age for Denise? We talking 65?
Hannah
Oh, no. Denise is probably in her 40s.
Jake Johnson
Oh, I didn't expect that. Okay. She's a baby. So Denise. Denise runs the library, and the library is at a school, and that's why your kids there. So it's like a preschool. Is it a pre. Is it through, like, fifth grade?
Hannah
Yeah, it is preschool up to sixth grade.
Jake Johnson
Okay. And she runs the library there, and you need the 300 hours. So you're volunteering, and you're basically like her internal.
Hannah
Yes, that's correct.
Jake Johnson
Okay. And so she's having you at first, when you. You explain this to her. She said, come work for me. It's no big deal. Of course. Bring both kids. And you're like, you're the best.
Hannah
Yes.
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Hannah
And my son goes there. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Was there a moment, like, did she ever say, like, hey, we should get dinner sometime? And you said, like, no, thank you, and then the vibe changed. Because a lot of times there's moments like this where, like, something happened and then, like, things went sideways. I'm wondering if there was something that happened.
Hannah
Absolutely. Well, I can tell you the day it happened was the day of the fall carnival.
Gareth Reynolds
Always as the.
Jake Johnson
This feels like the beginning of a kids or young adult novel. Now we go back to the carnival.
Gareth Reynolds
I was just gonna say this is when we leave the page and we go to the reenactment.
Jake Johnson
I would love to go back to the reenactment as a podcast.
Hannah
It is a fun special.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so take us to the carnival.
Hannah
So day of the fall carnival, I come in to volunteer. She has a big piece of paper on the floor. It's really important that you know that it is on the floor.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Hannah
She wants me to write out fall Carnival, fall 2024.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Hannah
I said, okay, so get down. She gives me a marker. I start writing. Class comes in, and the students are like, I want to help. Absolutely. Students start helping me. Another parent Volunteer comes in. She starts helping me. So we're all working on this. So finish the sign. I have to go pick my daughter up. She's at preschool part of the day, so I go to pick her up. I get a text from Denise a couple hours later. It's just a picture of the floor. The sign is no longer there, but the marker had bled through, so there's a big yes on the floor. It says, fall Carnival. You know, fall 20, 24.
Jake Johnson
It went right through it.
Hannah
Right through. I text back immediately, and I say, I'm so, so sorry. Let me come clean that up. And she says, bring a magic eraser and hand sanitizer.
Jake Johnson
Okay?
Hannah
I said, okay. So I go to pick up my son, and she pops her head into the car, and she's like. I said, hey, again, I'm so sorry about that. I. I will clean that up this evening because of all carnival this evening. And she was like, it's fine. She said, the janitorial staff said, that's what you need to clean it. And by the way, they like tequila.
Jake Johnson
They like what? Tequila.
Hannah
They like tequila.
Jake Johnson
Like, buy the janitor's tequila.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Right.
Jake Johnson
Because tequila this.
Hannah
I screwed up their floor.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Hannah
End of the carnival, I go upstairs and I start scrubbing, and my husband's with me, and my kids are with me, and my husband gets down on his knees with me, and we're both scrubbing. And then the principal comes upstairs, and she has her kids, and her kids then get down on the floor and start scrubbing. Well, the principal didn't see this happening. She comes around the corner, and she says, what are you doing? And I said, oh, Denise, this happened. And Denise said, I need to clean this. I said, that's what I'm doing.
Jake Johnson
But you said. Denise said, I have to clean this. And the principal thinks this is why we have janitors.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Hannah
Well, then the principal says to me. She goes, I do not want you on your hands and knees. She said, we have chemicals to clean this. She said, no. This said, do not. Do not do this. She said, you just did a whole carnival. She said, our staff will take care of this.
Jake Johnson
She said, get up, Hannah.
Hannah
So we get up. Oh, it gets. So we get up.
Jake Johnson
Keep going. Keep going.
Hannah
And we leave. Well, I come back. It's because we're.
Jake Johnson
A question for you, Hannah. Question for you. And I'm sorry to do this, you, Honor. I'm sorry to.
Hannah
No, you're okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Proceed.
Jake Johnson
Thank you. When you said to the principal. Denise told us to. Was it pointed?
Gareth Reynolds
That's a good question.
Jake Johnson
Thanks.
Hannah
When you say pointed, Jake's asking if.
Gareth Reynolds
You had mustard on that, if that was an earnest response to a question or if you wanted the principal to know this was a little weird.
Jake Johnson
Denise was being a little bit harsh, and you were kind of in a weird spot.
Hannah
It was filled with mustard.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Okay. There we go. So you made a choice.
Jake Johnson
No further questions. Continue.
Gareth Reynolds
Sit down.
Jake Johnson
But I do want the jury to know that I don't want. I wanted the jury.
Gareth Reynolds
Don't address them directly. Go ahead, Hannah.
Hannah
Keep going 100%.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Hannah
So I come back on Monday.
Jake Johnson
I represent Denise from here on out.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay? But just please be quiet your time.
Jake Johnson
Sorry.
Gareth Reynolds
Go ahead. Okay. Go ahead, Hannah.
Hannah
I come back on Monday. Walk through the front doors or walk through the library doors and turn the corner. Denise is sitting at the desk and she can see me.
Jake Johnson
She had she.
Hannah
That they were to me.
Jake Johnson
Neither would I.
Hannah
So I say, yeah, exactly. I say, good morning, Denise.
Jake Johnson
And she goes.
Hannah
She just looks.
Jake Johnson
Why don't you say that to the principal?
Hannah
Well, I look over her shoulder, and it's still there on the floor.
Jake Johnson
The janitors and the chemicals didn't do anything.
Hannah
So then. Then I look at her, and she's just staring at me. And I recount everything that happened that night. I said, I. I did come up here and I did do this. I said, you can see where we were scribing. I tell her exactly what the principal said to me, and she just goes, oh, really? I said, yes.
Jake Johnson
By the way, Hannah, Hannah, I love the way you tell a story.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, you're just spinning a yarn over here.
Jake Johnson
You're very dramatic. You're doing a wonderful job. I am invested. I gave a little bit of a stomachache, and I'm mad at everybody.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, perfect. I'm.
Hannah
I'm nervous on this end, so thank you.
Jake Johnson
Good. You did a great job.
Hannah
This happened back in November, and I was there last week, and it's still there.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God. What. What are we. This is. Come on. What are we?
Jake Johnson
How come know how come no one's cleaned it?
Gareth Reynolds
She wants a spite spot.
Hannah
I find out, right? It's some sort of weird power trip, and I don't. And ended up. I. I felt I got upset because she. We were. The last time we were there, I was sitting there and scrubbing with the kids, and the kids said, why? Who did this? And I said, I. I did this. And then the kid said, well, why is it still here? And I look up at Denise and I said, I thought you were going to reach out the janitorial staff.
Jake Johnson
You said this from your knees?
Hannah
I said it from my knee.
Jake Johnson
While she's in the chair looking down.
Gareth Reynolds
At you out your mouth.
Hannah
Her feet just swinging on the chair.
Jake Johnson
And so.
Hannah
And she.
Jake Johnson
What'd she say?
Hannah
So. So I say to her, I go, he. I thought you're supposed to reach out to the janitorial staff. The principal said she didn't want us doing this. And then all the students look at her.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, Jesus.
Hannah
And then she looks at me, and she's like, well, I've been meaning to. They're just so busy, so she never reached out to them.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Hannah
She's just been having us clean, so I don't know how to. I love the work.
Jake Johnson
Hannah, we're gonna jump in. We're gonna jump in.
Hannah
Help me.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. So this has been a pretty good setup. We see it. It's very clear. It feels like you.
Gareth Reynolds
It's a year later and this is still going on.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. I'm glad we got into this. And here's why. Because we've done calls where there's, like. I'm just remembering some Lady Gareth in the parking lot where there was, like, the older lady who has taken her spot at the school, you know, and that was more just bullying. This feels like you and Denise are involved in a weird thing that started.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, that. That was also passive. This is.
Jake Johnson
Yes, Right.
Gareth Reynolds
Face to face. It's very.
Jake Johnson
I have strange. I have my pitch.
Gareth Reynolds
I got a couple, too. Go.
Jake Johnson
My first pitch is you get into the school and you have the access on a weekend, you get on your knees and you scrub that floor.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, I can do you one better.
Jake Johnson
Go ahead.
Hannah
Now.
Gareth Reynolds
Go. Go to the grocery store and get a rug doctor and do that. Just let the rug doctors do the work. Or give the janitors tequila and be like, hey, there's a stain up there.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but she can't. She can't go to them because she tried with the principal. Anytime you go through anybody else with Denise, it's going to backfire on Hannah.
Gareth Reynolds
I also. I think. Okay, I think. I think it's got to be two pronged. One is get rid of the stain. So you can either, you know, for whatever reason, grocery stores rent those big rug cleaning machines. I'd get one of those. Or. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Is it on a rug or tile, Hannah?
Hannah
It's on tile.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, okay. Then get in there, elbow grease it. But then I think we also have to mend the fence. As much as you would rather let this per. Like, let your actions speak. I do think you want to do something for her to say. Hey, obviously this was a bit of a strange situation and this went sideways. Yeah, I'm glad. You know, here's a pie or like, here's a bottle of wine or here's a gift.
Jake Johnson
First. First order of business. And you're not wrong, Gareth, but I do think we got to tackle the first mountain first. Hannah, how are you going to clean that off the floor? How can you get in there when Denise doesn't know without going through the janitors? What's the system? Because I'll tell you, if you go through the janitors and you try to go through an official channel and Denise finds out, it's going to make your life even worse.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So you walk us through a pitch. Because you know, Hannah, how to get in that room when Denise is not around. And it's not going to take you a week of scrubbing.
Gareth Reynolds
I need pretty bad.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but it's probably like that, like, deep marker. Kid Sharpie. The thick ones, that's just really stained.
Hannah
Sounds so you guys can see.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I like to see some photos.
Hannah
Yeah. I can email a picture over to you guys, but I see. I see what you guys are saying.
Jake Johnson
And what do you think of this?
Hannah
I know exactly. She doesn't like exactly when I could get in there. I think it's a great idea to get rid of the stain.
Jake Johnson
When could you get in there? Just because now I'm invested in the story.
Hannah
Right. Well, she has certain times of the day where she goes and works with other students, so I had the library to myself, so I could just try to work as fast as I could.
Jake Johnson
Yes. But Jesus Christ, Anna, it's like a heist movie.
Gareth Reynolds
You can't get caught.
Jake Johnson
You can't get caught. You can't be three quarters of the way through and she walks in and you're on your knees with gloves on. That's a nightmare. She might kill you.
Hannah
She's. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Why?
Hannah
She signed me up to finish the yearbook, so I have to be there after school so I could.
Jake Johnson
Ooh. And she leaves. She leaves when the bell rings.
Hannah
Yes.
Jake Johnson
That's your move.
Hannah
Okay.
Jake Johnson
When she's gone and you know she's gone and you're there for yearbook. Get this stuff and you don't stop until it's done. And guess what your kids can do? Hang out.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I would sneak it in that day.
Jake Johnson
And I. I would. I would have your husband help. I would have anybody you can recruit. Not through the school that Denise doesn't have to know. And then I would leave behind some flowers and a note that said, sorry this took so long.
Hannah
Okay.
Jake Johnson
I'm sorry this happened. It will not happen again. All the best, Hannah. And then when she brings it up, you just play nice a couple times, you kill her with kindness, and you move on.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Jake Johnson
But we have to. We have to right the wrong on this one because Denise seems petty and she's not gonna let it go.
Gareth Reynolds
This is also employer employee. This isn't like a person in your personal life and you've got to kind of mend the fence. This is like you just got to get through a certain amount of time.
Jake Johnson
As well as we need you to get those 300 hours.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. That's what I mean. It's like you've got a destination like this does end. So that's, you know, I think is the thing.
Jake Johnson
You know how you could make it fun? You, your husband and the kids all wear camouflage are all wear all black like burglar clothes. And you do it like it's. Yes. And it's. You've got to be done by. So the kids are in. Nobody can catch us. It's. We have to get everything off. And it's got to be perfect. Or here's a way to make it fun. You clean it. You don't leave a note.
Hannah
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Then you never mention it.
Gareth Reynolds
I. I'm gonna separate from Jake on this.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
I think you want the credit because I think it helps you with her because you don't want her to think like you had nothing to do with it. I think I. I would attach the two. I do like the cat burglar pitch.
Jake Johnson
Can she stay mad with no stain?
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, she can. Yes, she will. Yes.
Jake Johnson
I gotcha. You think the pettiness would go. I gotcha.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. I think she. This, this is not about the stain.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
This is about the mustard, right?
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
This is how you get the mustard off of them. That's what I think.
Jake Johnson
That's right. That's interesting. I don't think you're wrong, actually.
Gareth Reynolds
So I. But I do like the pitch of being like pitch to your kids that you're gonna hat bur move. You're going to sneak in these things. We're going to put black hats on. We're going to set a timer and we're going to, as a family, get this stain up as quick as possible. And then I would do the leave behind a flower, a like some cookies, something like that.
Jake Johnson
Now you talk for a little bit and let us know what you're thinking.
Hannah
I think it's honestly a great idea because just like you're saying it wipes the freight claim and just like letting her know, yes, it was me. I think it's a great idea to come in and make it fun. And I think also if something happens in the future, it does back me up by saying, hey, I. May I. I made that wrong. Right?
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Looking for the reset you're looking for. Right.
Hannah
And I also agree when you say this isn't an employee situation, there's going to be an end point. So honestly, I'm gonna take your guys's advice because I've been doing this in September and I feel like I have just, like, been run over and I think this is a great start.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You know. You know what I gotta say, Hannah?
Hannah
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Season two, Gareth and I are giving great advice.
Gareth Reynolds
We're good. I'm a little worried. I think the bottom is gonna drop. The bottom.
Jake Johnson
This is not the moment for us to be bragging. I know, but she just said she was at the end of the line. She felt emotional. This was helping. Who are we?
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know. I don't know.
Jake Johnson
Becoming good advice.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know. I don't like it. It's not good.
Jake Johnson
I'm gonna back off. I'm feeling too confident.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I would take some dog and rub it on that. Put a little dog on there.
Jake Johnson
Have you ever thought of Parmesan in the floor?
Gareth Reynolds
Listen, I'll. Jake, I gotta tell you, someone came to my show and brought me a thing of Parmesan to sign for their.
Jake Johnson
So, Hannah, I think this is gonna work.
Gareth Reynolds
I do too. I think it's. Yeah, it's definitely the right way to start.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And then will you. Will you take a couple of pics of the you guys in the burglar clothes, cleaning it up, some before and afters. And then what are you gonna leave in the note? What's the note gonna say?
Hannah
Probably. I'm so sorry it took so long to clean up. I hope this starts your year good.
Jake Johnson
Oh, like that.
Gareth Reynolds
I like that. I got a pitch.
Jake Johnson
Go for it.
Hannah
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Hopefully this new floor means a new start. I really appreciate everything you've done for me.
Hannah
I really like that.
Jake Johnson
I like it. I also a little bit hate it as Denise.
Gareth Reynolds
She likes it. What?
Hannah
What's your.
Gareth Reynolds
Hannah likes it.
Jake Johnson
So my pitch would be. I think I've been on my. I've been on my knees enough for you. Time for you to get down here too. Come in the mud with me, baby.
Gareth Reynolds
How about roses are red, violets are blue, the floor looks good now. Fuck you.
Jake Johnson
How about this? You clean it up and the next day with marker you write fuck you Denise.
Gareth Reynolds
If you stain up only to write you Denise on the floor the day you quit.
Jake Johnson
You bitch. I was on my knees enough.
Gareth Reynolds
By the way. This is what happens when you compliment our advice. Now we're like, ruin everything.
Jake Johnson
Hannah, thank you so much for the call. Please follow up, but please send some pics on what's going on with this. And I do think the note should be really clean, really quick. Yeah, I don't think it should be overly, you know, I'm such a great person. Denise has a hard on for you. So all we're looking to do is. We're just looking for a ceasefire.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Jake Johnson
We're just saying like, hey, she went sideways.
Hannah
Yep, I can do that. Thanks so much for your time, you guys.
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Jake Johnson
Hello. How are you?
Rob Wobby Wob
Hi.
Jake Johnson
Fantastic.
Rob Wobby Wob
How are you guys?
Jake Johnson
Good. Can we get your name, please?
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, I'm gonna go by Peyton for this call. P like pton Manning, Hayden Close enough.
Gareth Reynolds
What. What is the one you're saying you want to go hate, like Hayden and.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, kind of, but with a P.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, is this a name?
Jake Johnson
You just making up words? Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, okay. I mean, it's fine. Well, hold on. Just real quick. It's fine to make up a fake name on this show. That's totally okay, by the way.
Rob Wobby Wob
It is fully made up.
Gareth Reynolds
But why?
Rob Wobby Wob
It is a name from one of my favorite podcasts.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Rob Wobby Wob
It doesn't happen to be yours.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, first of all, whatever. Yeah. But also, next time, Jeff is fine. Go ahead, Jake.
Jake Johnson
Keep the intro made up name. I'm gonna go with Moolock.
Gareth Reynolds
I'd like to be called Ishkirn.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. So, Payton, how old are you, sir?
Rob Wobby Wob
30.
Jake Johnson
30. And what's the podcast you like that you're telling us about?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, what's your other lover?
Rob Wobby Wob
This will actually play into it a little bit. It's called Dungeons and Daddies.
Gareth Reynolds
My nipples just got hard.
Jake Johnson
You're back, Peyton. Welcome back, Dungeons and Daddies. Sir. Sorry that we insulted your name, sire.
Gareth Reynolds
Payton.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, my apologies. I'm nothing but a slob. So, please, sir. Peyton, will you tell us what the issue is today?
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, my wife is, what I would say, an avid reader of smut books. The last year, she read probably over 150 books in total. And I can't necessarily say that that fully plays into our bedroom life, but one thing that has come up is that she wants to call me daddy in bed. And this makes me uncomfortable because I have a son who also likes to call me Daddy.
Jake Johnson
I get it, man. By the way, having kids changes the terms, doesn't it?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I don't love it. Let's give her a name. Should we call her Pishtar?
Rob Wobby Wob
Pishtar is good, but Beverly would be better in this scenario.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so Beverly we're calling it. So when you say smut books, what is. What are these books Beverly is reading? And how does she start? What's going on?
Rob Wobby Wob
It's exactly what you think it is. It's. It's very sexually heavy books.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Rob Wobby Wob
I believe the main series is a Court of Thorn and Roses. That interesting most people start with, but, yeah, she's fully involved in it. She goes to book clubs for it, and all of her friends are into it, too.
Jake Johnson
Fun.
Rob Wobby Wob
So, yeah, it's good for her and it's. Yeah, you know, it's good for us, but I. I don't necessarily need to be called Daddy in bed.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so just to be clear, I.
Rob Wobby Wob
Think you guys might Be able to help me.
Jake Johnson
I think we can too. But just to be clear. Slow down.
Rob Wobby Wob
Coming up with a few different names.
Gareth Reynolds
Slow down, Daddy.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Come on.
Rob Wobby Wob
Hey. I barely know you.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, we got. We got to take a step back before we get to pitching different names, but we will end up there. So she's into these smut books and it is good for you guys. So most of the thing, it has sparked some more fun in the bedroom. Things are going well. Is that correct?
Hannah
Yes.
Jake Johnson
How old's the kid? You got one or two kids?
Rob Wobby Wob
One kid. He's about to be three.
Jake Johnson
About to be three. Okay, great. So a three year old baby and you guys are still finding it. So God bless these books.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yep. I, I can give you that.
Jake Johnson
And so when did the nickname daddy start? Was there one before. Before these books? Did she call you something else?
Gareth Reynolds
Trying to get a sense before your son too?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I'm trying to get a sense of who Beverly was in the sack before these books.
Rob Wobby Wob
I. I think there's. That's kind of part of the problem is there's been nothing good before that either.
Jake Johnson
I gotcha.
Rob Wobby Wob
You know, I don't. I don't necessarily feel as if any name that normal people call me is. Is good to me.
Jake Johnson
So you don't like, you don't like nicknames?
Rob Wobby Wob
I don't like my name necessarily being used or like generally names that other people in my life but are.
Gareth Reynolds
Right. That was the problem initially was that your. This name was sort of something that your son calls you. That's what makes it weird if we found one that maybe wasn't before that.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, it was like even my normal name is. Is not. Are you necessarily my favorite thing?
Gareth Reynolds
Are you gonna be okay if we come up with another pitch for her to call you something? Or are you looking to get completely off the nickname train?
Jake Johnson
That's right.
Rob Wobby Wob
No, I'm, I'm a. Okay. Finding something else.
Jake Johnson
Give me. Give me a little taste of this though. When did daddy start?
Rob Wobby Wob
Fairly. I. I want to say fairly recently, like within the last year.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Rob Wobby Wob
And it's something that, that she and her friends agree is. Is pretty hot. But to me, it just doesn't get the wheels turning.
Gareth Reynolds
I get it.
Rob Wobby Wob
And, and there's a certain point where I, I asked her to try it out because I could tell she was holding back and it just like she said she could say it in her head and, and all of that. But there's a point where she's holding back and that's not cool either.
Jake Johnson
So I hear what you're saying. You're a sensitive creature.
Rob Wobby Wob
Unfettered son.
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Okay, this is interesting.
Rob Wobby Wob
They're just looking for something neutral and natural. And here's.
Gareth Reynolds
And I. It's.
Jake Johnson
It's interesting.
Gareth Reynolds
It's hard because Daddy is a very. Daddy's a go to. And. But I think.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You were alluding to the fact, Jake, that it does. When you have. Yeah. It kind of.
Jake Johnson
When you're called Daddy by a child.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. No, it takes you out of it.
Jake Johnson
And then you hear it, your first thought is, what can I get for you?
Gareth Reynolds
Well, and. And the. The. The. You know, look, I mean, you've got to be locked in. In order for all the mechanisms to be firing on all cylinders, you've got to remain locked in. And part of that is the head game. So you can't be sitting there doing the business, thinking about how Daddy is kind of bothering you.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
So what we basically have to do is pitch some alts. But I also think I have a way to pitch him that's maybe not just. Maybe not the. The way to just sit her down and go, hey, Daddy's like an issue.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You want to hear my pitch on that?
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Rob Wobby Wob
Of course.
Gareth Reynolds
I think you should write a romance short for her that involves you two and maybe highlights that that name doesn't work for the character you're playing in for Peyton in the story. And then we come up with a banger pitch at the end.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, I actually think that would probably really do it for.
Gareth Reynolds
Make it erotic, too. It's an erotic story.
Rob Wobby Wob
I'm. I'm really bad at conversation written down, but I think I could find some.
Gareth Reynolds
But you could even read one of her romance chapters where the. Yeah, you know, the pork. It starts and just feel like, you know, just kind of pain by numbers. It A little.
Jake Johnson
Well, Pen, let me ask you a question about Beverly. So she's talking to her girlfriends. They're all saying, daddy's pretty hot. You can tell she's holding it back. You say, try it. It's really working for her. It's really not working for you. Is there a vibe that we can switch it to your last name? Like a Mr. Blank or even a Sir?
Rob Wobby Wob
Because actually one of the. The top ones on there, and I've. I've had small conversations with my wife about this, but some of the other top ones are Mr. And sir and unfortunately. Yeah, well, they're. They get weirder too, like master and. And stuff like that.
Jake Johnson
But stop making that face so much. Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
Just one Thing, Gareth, I'm not.
Jake Johnson
You made nine faces in three seconds. We all know you like to get.
Gareth Reynolds
Something happened to me. Something happens. I like it.
Rob Wobby Wob
If you need book recommendations, I have someone for you.
Jake Johnson
So here's where I think. Here's where I think we're going to. Because we could pitch the idea of writing something or getting out of it, but here's where I think the rubber is going to meet the road on this one. And tell me if I'm wrong. I think what she's looking for, you in the sack, in terms of a name, is a position of power, and I think that position of power is not what you're looking for.
Rob Wobby Wob
I. I don't know if I fully agree with that. I agree with the statement on what she's looking for. I disagree with the statement on what I'm looking for, but the reason that sir and Mr. Is weird is because we actually use those for our son. And that happened before she started reading these books, too.
Jake Johnson
You call him Mr. Whatever.
Gareth Reynolds
We.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, and.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, and. And we call him sir pretty, you know, sarcastically, formally.
Jake Johnson
I got.
Rob Wobby Wob
So I got a question for you.
Jake Johnson
They're connected to this. Okay, so then let me go to you for a second as a man who loves D. D is a man who doesn't mind this position of power in the sexual dynamics. Now, it's not a comfortable question from man to man to ask each other this, but what do you find really sexy in your role in the sack? Like, if you were really giving it to your wife and she was doing great, and deep down you're like, I am a silverback. I am that man. I am an animal. What's your vision so bad? What's that?
Gareth Reynolds
Call me silverback.
Jake Johnson
Call me Coco, the gorilla from the yard. But what is that version to you? You know, what is something. What do you think is the. The epitome of a sexual man?
Rob Wobby Wob
Well, I. I can't say that on. On any sort of circumstance for anyone else, but for us, we do definitely have one of those more dominant and submissive type relationships in bed.
Jake Johnson
And that's what you guys.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, and so there is a certain level of commanding that I have and submissiveness that she has. So those types of names would be okay. But the challenge that we've come across is the fact that I guess all of the normal ones are frequently used inside our household.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, okay, I understand. What about.
Rob Wobby Wob
So we might have to get a little creative.
Jake Johnson
Know when you play D and D, who's your favorite character to play?
Rob Wobby Wob
I normally Play like different types of creatures. And that sounds weird because I'm. I'm No. Not even remotely involved in that type of sexual world. But I've only ever played a black panther and a little white fox.
Gareth Reynolds
A little white what? Give it to me. Little white fox. Give it to me. A little white fox. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
I don't want to get into the black panther. I'll find a little white fox.
Gareth Reynolds
It's just a little white.
Jake Johnson
So I don't feel comfortable with a.
Gareth Reynolds
Little white fox about to finish here.
Jake Johnson
Here's the issue that I'm bumping against. You don't like role playing, but you don't like daddy, mister, sir, or master. So. And you've. It's gotta also work for her because we can't get too goofy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Because then she'll be like, it's funny, but this is a joke.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, Master. Master to me, like, there's something good about that one. But go ahead, keep going. I got a bunch.
Jake Johnson
What about something like Officer?
Gareth Reynolds
That's why I was kind of trying to incorporate like some like she's costume.
Jake Johnson
But close.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, Professor. Like in charge. Leader.
Jake Johnson
Yes, Professor.
Rob Wobby Wob
I kind of like professor. And I don't know why is it.
Jake Johnson
But no but here's what's up to you. You pitching things that you would be into. Try. And then the second thing is, is we got to get her on board too. But if she's liking the idea of this thing, you don't have to do a full role play that you pretend you're teaching a class and blah, blah, blah. But you could start with the idea of professor and see where it kind of start. And once you're in it, you're in it.
Gareth Reynolds
She's just.
Jake Johnson
Let me ask for something to say.
Gareth Reynolds
I think also. Right. If your dynamic while you're doing it is that you're kind of in the driver's seat, can you not just while you're doing it, kind of give her that correction in a dominant sort of way that maybe is a turn on as well.
Jake Johnson
That's interesting.
Rob Wobby Wob
That was kind of the plan. I just needed to come. Like, that was ultimately my plan was.
Gareth Reynolds
Stop calling me daddy. I'm the professor.
Rob Wobby Wob
Type of.
Matthew Cheeseman
Yeah.
Rob Wobby Wob
But it's needed to come up with a better name.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Rob Wobby Wob
I like the. The romance book idea too though. Like, both of those are very viable options, especially if I introduce it in a short story. And Peyton, I like what you're saying.
Jake Johnson
I like what you're saying a lot. So if you wrote something about a professor and the Student. And in the end of it, the sex act that they did was very much what you and your wife like.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, how about the story, Right. Is almost ellipseed at the end by the sexual position. The professor takes her in. And as the story ends and she's finishing reading it, you immediately go and sort of start the real life version of it from where the story leaves off.
Jake Johnson
But by the way, I actually think this is kind of nice because then you are getting into the game that you're creating and it's really fun for her and you're doing it through the language. She likes these books. And in it, the character can have a certain disdain for the term Daddy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
And so she can be thinking it, which could be turning her on, but she knows she's not allowed to say it, which could be hotter for her.
Gareth Reynolds
She. I think it does play in the dynamic. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
But she's allowed to be thinking. I agree, but she is not allowed to say it.
Rob Wobby Wob
May I say what.
Gareth Reynolds
How do you feel about that, Peyton?
Rob Wobby Wob
I think that, honestly, might work really well.
Gareth Reynolds
And how do you feel about writing this out? Do you feel like you can sink your teeth into this operation?
Jake Johnson
This show is so weird.
Rob Wobby Wob
That might be the more difficult side of it for me, but I think I could come up with something, especially, like you said, if I mirror it off of what she's been reading.
Gareth Reynolds
You know, if you started it with just like. If it was just like, whatever. Like something like it was a late night in at that night. You know, she'd been working hand in glove with him over the past couple weeks and their relationship had recently turned sexual. She was hoping it would happen again that night and then had started.
Jake Johnson
Or, Gareth, this is the first night. Or.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, she was. But, yes, she was hoping it was.
Jake Johnson
Going to happen, but she felt, you know, her dream.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. As much as she wanted it to happen, she didn't know. I mean, the professor was married, whatever. Something like that. And then you could even start the sexual part of the fantasy and she says, daddy.
Jake Johnson
Yes, I agree. But also she had to.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
She had to bring herself back to his office.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
Late at night, something. And she heard something in the hallway and. Right. And then in the hallway, you make a sound.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. And then when it says, like, this is how I would end it. I would end it with like, he told her not to call him Daddy. He didn't like that. He was a professor. That was the name. And then you sort of go like, you know, he started to kiss her. Or he immediate. You know, whatever it is. And then you start doing that last part and that's when the story ends and the actual sex begins. The family.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, I honestly think that would work really well too.
Jake Johnson
I think it'd be really nice. And then can you do us a favor? After you've. No, after you've written it, can you record it as a voice note and send it to us so we can play it at the end of this with just you reading it from top to bottom? And that could be the button of this little episode.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, I can give that a go.
Jake Johnson
Thank you. And then will you follow up with us, please?
Rob Wobby Wob
Yes, well, certainly.
Jake Johnson
I think this is going to work, man.
Gareth Reynolds
I think I do too. I think it's a good. It's a good way into her wheelhouse to give this little nudge.
Jake Johnson
I think it's going to lead to a really fun period and probably baby number two for you guys.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, just don't call it the Professor.
Rob Wobby Wob
But you know.
Jake Johnson
Listen man, we appreciate the call and truly, when you're done, just record yourself saying it and sending it. I think it'd be a really fun ending for everyone to then be able to hear the call leading up to that, you know, hearing. Being able to hear the book from you. Then the end. I think it'd be fun.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep. Yeah.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah, I can do that.
Jake Johnson
Thanks, my man.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, good luck.
Jake Johnson
Appreciate that.
Rob Wobby Wob
Thanks, buddy. Thank you guys.
Gareth Reynolds
Bye. Bye.
Rob Wobby Wob
I want to call you Daddy. The last word came out as a whisper as she looked away from him. He froze for a moment, his gaze darkening as her words hung in the air. Slowly, his lips curled into a faint, knowing smile, one that sent a shiver down her spine. Daddy. He repeated, the word, rolling off his tongue as if testing its weight. His other hand came to rest on the small of her back, pulling her closer. Is that what you've been holding back? The thing you couldn't say? She nodded, unable to meet his eyes. He exhaled a low, shamed sigh, leaning in so his lips brushed against the shell of her ear. That's cute, he grumbled, his voice dripping with authority. But that's not what you'll call me. She gasped softly as his hand tightened on her waist, his warmth intensifying against her skin. You'll call me Professor?
Hannah
Hey everyone, this is producer Natalie here. Just wanted to let you know that the next follow up is from episode 121, Very Important Pigs with Steve Berg, in case you want to go back and listen to that one again.
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Matthew Cheeseman
Hi there.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi. Welcome back to the show. Can we get your name and what the problem was you called with. And we'll see if we can even remember what we told you to do.
Matthew Cheeseman
Of course. My name's Matthew Cheeseman. I'm a friend of Mikey who called in maybe September, October, and we had the giant inflatable pig. Yeah, we're looking for a way to monetize it.
Jake Johnson
Yes, I remember this. You guys had a house, you bought a bunch of these big animals you could blow air to.
Gareth Reynolds
It's like a big gorilla, like big inflatable. You gotta. Yeah, hugely inflatable.
Jake Johnson
Throwing a vip.
Matthew Cheeseman
Yeah, exactly. That was your recommendation. Which was a great recommendation. So two 35 foot tall gorillas and one 25 foot tall pick.
Jake Johnson
And what, what kind of damage did you guys pay for this? It was around 10, 000 bucks, right? Something like that.
Matthew Cheeseman
That was, that was the price for 15 of them from this crazy guy out in Nanaimo, which off of Vancouver. And we, we negotiated for three of them and brought a case of cash over to them.
Jake Johnson
Great. So you got three for ten grand.
Gareth Reynolds
Exactly.
Matthew Cheeseman
We negotiated, we negotiated for fewer of them for the same cause we, we, we ended up three for 3,000.
Jake Johnson
Cool.
Gareth Reynolds
That's a good deal. So, so you were throwing parties and we basically said turn the inside because you can get into them. Yeah, turn the inside into sort of a VIP experience. Charge a little money for that. And, and yeah. So, so what happened? So what's the update?
Matthew Cheeseman
Well, we took your idea and, and we've run with it in a couple different directions. We have had a couple of success stories. I want to go, I want to go over the successes of the inflatable. Since we last spoke in the newspaper, we've had a couple hits. We had an exciting double feature around Halloween.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh yeah, can you send us slow News.
Matthew Cheeseman
Absolutely. It's.
Rob Wobby Wob
It's a small local, I would imagine, the New York Times.
Gareth Reynolds
No, it was.
Matthew Cheeseman
It was a small local paper, but we set up the Gorilla for Halloween for, like, a kids party. And then we set up the pig for a solar festival around Halloween. So we got in the October edition. And then also around Halloween, we put out an ad. Very inspired by your guys's pitch. And I think the best response was a guy over Facebook that was willing to drop, I'm gonna say, about $500 for, like, two weeks of renting these things and us going and setting it up and all that, because he wanted to win a $10 gift card that a street gives out for a decorations contest among all the neighbors.
Gareth Reynolds
This guy's doing well financially. Okay.
Matthew Cheeseman
Yeah, he's doing really well financially. That's kind of our target demographic. And then the date to really put in your calendars where I think we put the VIPIG experience into motion is March 1st. And the reason is it's twofold. First is that that's International Pig Day. And secondly, we figure you're then 15 days out from. From Valentine's Day. Single people, they're. They're back on the horse. They're. They've got their motivation again. And so we're thinking it's like a mixer experience in the. In the pig, where maybe you've got sort of anonymous submissions. If you and another person both agree, then you can maybe make your way into the pig for a more private.
Gareth Reynolds
But let's. Also.
Jake Johnson
You go together.
Gareth Reynolds
Let's enjoy the fact that outside of this call hearing, maybe you go inside the pig for a mixer. Wouldn't make a lot of sense. But. But in.
Matthew Cheeseman
Correct.
Gareth Reynolds
How about.
Jake Johnson
How about that makes total get together and start their relationship in the pig.
Gareth Reynolds
That's what I was going to say. A little like, we're going for.
Matthew Cheeseman
We're looking for, like, wedding toasts that we're eventually delivering, I think, where we put these people together.
Jake Johnson
When I was inside of that pig kissing you, I knew you were the one.
Gareth Reynolds
How about this? You do a singles mixer inside the pig, and then if two people hit it off, they can pay $20 to go have a half hour in the VI Pig.
Rob Wobby Wob
Right?
Matthew Cheeseman
Perfect. Perfect. So I think the mixer is happening sort of, because I will say it's not an enormous space in there. The mix, like, around the pig. And then if. If it's indicated by both parties that there's interest, then, yeah, they get the. The VI pig experience where they go inside the blowers. You Know, making a bunch of noise so the. The outside party maybe isn't hearing what's happening in there.
Gareth Reynolds
Blower's always making a lot of.
Rob Wobby Wob
Say that.
Jake Johnson
Don't say that ruins the romance.
Matthew Cheeseman
Making a lot.
Jake Johnson
I was about to pitch that in. You know what we could tap into here, Matthew, is that in the pig, there's a great photo you could take of people kissing. One of your. One of you guys's job could be to hold one of their phones so that they have like the insta snap that it's like.
Gareth Reynolds
This is like the angel wings where.
Jake Johnson
The wind is going in the pig go in here for five bucks, you get your picture. But it's a great.
Gareth Reynolds
We call it the picture.
Jake Johnson
Yes, you call it the picture.
Matthew Cheeseman
The picture.
Jake Johnson
The picture is like, I like a.
Matthew Cheeseman
Kind of a quick cash at a festival situation.
Jake Johnson
And rather than making it exclusive, everybody can go. But there is a line.
Gareth Reynolds
I. I love it.
Jake Johnson
And you don't let people in there. So if there's no line, you make people wait. So it feels like there's a line.
Gareth Reynolds
That's good too.
Rob Wobby Wob
Nice.
Gareth Reynolds
Really.
Matthew Cheeseman
It's like.
Gareth Reynolds
It's like when Busters put. You got the swine line for the picture.
Matthew Cheeseman
Okay, great.
Gareth Reynolds
So we've got.
Matthew Cheeseman
We've got the picture Slime light. We have the original VIPIG experience.
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Matthew Cheeseman
You guys are giving us a lot to work with.
Jake Johnson
Well, you guys are doing good work. You guys are building it up.
Gareth Reynolds
So the $3,000 on a couple pigs. So, you know.
Matthew Cheeseman
Yeah, yeah.
Jake Johnson
It sounds like you're talking about our Las Vegas trip, baby.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, we're here to help. We'll be right back.
Jake Johnson
That was 1957. I spent $3,000 on a couple of.
Gareth Reynolds
Pigs and a couple of pigs. I was a big.
Jake Johnson
It was disgusting. I was. And so were the pigs. So this is a. This is a great big win. And there's going to be another one after March. When you call back, will you send us. We can t. We can put it on. We don't have to see it now, but we'll connect the newspaper clippings and if you make an advertisement for March 1st, let us know. And then maybe we can get some of those posted pictures and put those on, too.
Gareth Reynolds
I think we could definitely put it on the socials and help.
Jake Johnson
I think so, too.
Gareth Reynolds
Help a little bit. You know, you guys are your heroes for that.
Matthew Cheeseman
We really appreciate all the support. Yeah, well, I'll. I'll send you all our various advertisements.
Jake Johnson
And then keep up the good work. You guys seem to be Doing really important stuff out there.
Gareth Reynolds
Absolutely. I can't imagine Canada surviving without you people out there. So keep us posted.
Matthew Cheeseman
Mostly.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, they very well could be. Keep us posted. And again, congratulations.
Matthew Cheeseman
Thanks so much.
Rob Wobby Wob
Yeah.
Matthew Cheeseman
Have a great day, guys.
Gareth Reynolds
You too.
Jake Johnson
Appreciate it.
Gareth Reynolds
Bye. Bye. I should ring the bell on that one.
Jake Johnson
Agreed.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
Now it's.
Gareth Reynolds
Now it's over now. Now the call's over.
Jake Johnson
I would say a lot of these follow ups have been recently our. What do you think our numbers are for real, Gareth? And don't think what you did last time, Jake. Where are we really at percentage wise?
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, I don't think it's even an opinion piece. I think we are. I don't want to rock it, but I think we're at 100%.
Jake Johnson
We've been hitting pretty hardly. I think.
Gareth Reynolds
What do you think?
Jake Johnson
75%?
Gareth Reynolds
I think we're at 100. I don't think we've missed.
Jake Johnson
No, but I think the people we've missed with haven't followed up.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, they don't count their dead.
Jake Johnson
But I mean this seriously. What do you actually think our number is? Because, you know, we're not at 100, but we are also not at like 40 or 30 anymore.
Gareth Reynolds
I. I think 85.
Jake Johnson
I love it.
Gareth Reynolds
Is my conservative.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Jesse, I know you're new to the show, but what do you think the hit rate is of actually helping people? And the help can be small.
Gareth Reynolds
So far this season it's. It's 100 of the people.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Season two has been 100.
Gareth Reynolds
People are enthusiastic. They're really taking your words to heart.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, well, we're here to see.
Gareth Reynolds
We told them we were going to leave them and they got scared. And now nobody will tell us we failed them, which I love. I love creating that environment of fear.
Jake Johnson
We've created a dysfunct, functional relationship. We're gonna go.
Gareth Reynolds
We have the power. So it's fine for us.
Jake Johnson
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Podcast Summary: We're Here to Help – Episode 149: "On My Knees & Don't Call Me Daddy"
Episode Overview
In Episode 149 of We're Here to Help, hosts Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds tackle a range of caller dilemmas, blending humor with heartfelt advice. From navigating workplace tensions with a librarian to redefining intimate nicknames post-parenthood, the episode delves into personal challenges with the hosts' characteristic wit. Additionally, a follow-up call provides updates on entrepreneurial ventures inspired by previous advice. Throughout the episode, notable quotes and insightful discussions highlight the duo's commitment to genuinely assisting their audience.
Discussion with Hannah: Dealing with a Bullying Librarian [11:16 – 22:00]
The episode opens with a call from Hannah, a 30-year-old veteran and stay-at-home mom from Portland, Oregon. Hannah shares her struggles with Denise, the school librarian, who initially allowed her to volunteer at the library—helping Hannah fulfill her 300-hour volunteer requirement for college while accommodating her four-year-old daughter.
Hannah's Story:
Hannah explains, "I need advice about how I can tactfully demand respect from this book jockey without messing up my current situation." [12:10]
The situation intensified after a mishap during the fall carnival where Hannah accidentally wrote "fall Carnival, Fall 2024" on the library floor with a marker that bled through, resulting in an unintended "yes" being visible. Denise's response was curt, insisting that janitorial staff handle the cleanup and hinting at using "tequila" as a remedy. This led to further tension when Hannah and her husband, along with their children, were seen scrubbing the floor, only to be reprimanded by the principal for not using proper cleaning methods.
Hosts' Analysis and Advice:
Jake remarks, "This feels like the beginning of a kids or young adult novel." [15:16], setting a light-hearted tone as they dissect the layered conflict between Hannah and Denise.
Gareth suggests a two-pronged approach:
Jake emphasizes the importance of handling the situation covertly to prevent further backlash from Denise: "But we have to tackle the first mountain first." [24:25]
Ultimately, the hosts recommend that Hannah clean the stain discreetly with the help of her husband and children, leave a courteous note, and adopt a "burglar" persona to make the cleanup process more enjoyable and less confrontational. Gareth adds, "Leave behind some flowers and a note that said, sorry this took so long." [30:32]
Conversation with Peyton: Navigating Bedroom Nicknames Post-Parenthood [36:00 – 54:39]
The second significant interaction features a caller named Peyton (played by producer Rob Wobby Wob), who grapples with his wife's desire to call him "Daddy" in bed—a term that also applies to their three-year-old son. Peyton feels uncomfortable with this overlap and seeks guidance on redefining their intimate nicknames.
Peyton's Dilemma:
"My wife... she wants to call me daddy in bed. And this makes me uncomfortable because I have a son who also likes to call me Daddy." [37:31]
Hosts' Brainstorming:
Jake and Gareth engage in an animated brainstorming session to help Peyton navigate this sensitive issue. They consider alternative titles that maintain the desired dynamic without overlapping with familial terms. Suggestions include:
Gareth proposes, "I think you should write a romance short for her that involves you two and maybe highlights that that name doesn't work for the character you're playing." [43:32]
Jake encourages Peyton to integrate these new titles into their intimate life creatively, suggesting scenarios where Peyton takes on a dominant role corresponding to the new nickname: "Call me Coco, the gorilla from the yard." [46:38]
Outcome and Strategy:
The hosts conclude that introducing a new nickname should be a mutual and creative process, ensuring that both partners are comfortable and engaged. They advise Peyton to:
Peyton responds positively, indicating readiness to adopt the hosts' suggestions: "I think it's honestly a great idea... I've been doing this in September and I feel like I have just been run over." [28:56]
Follow-Up with Matthew: Monetizing Inflatable Pigs [59:37 – 67:20]
In a return call, Matthew Cheeseman provides updates on his entrepreneurial venture involving large inflatable animals—specifically gorillas and pigs—originally recommended by the hosts for event monetization.
Matthew's Progress:
Matthew shares, "Since we last spoke in the newspaper, we've had a couple hits... we have a singles mixer experience in the pig for International Pig Day, March 1st." [62:30]
Hosts' Support and Suggestions:
Jake and Gareth express enthusiasm for Matthew's progress, suggesting enhancements such as:
Gareth adds, "A little like, we're going for. You go together. How about that makes total get together and start their relationship in the pig." [63:38]
Achievements Highlighted:
Hosts' Reflections and Wrap-Up [67:20 – End]
As the episode concludes, Jake and Gareth reflect on their success in providing effective advice, humorously debating their own hit rates and the dynamics of their advisory roles. They acknowledge the positive feedback from callers and express their commitment to continuing their mission of helping others.
Closing Remarks:
Jake humorously states, "We're here to help, we'll be right back." [66:00], encapsulating the show's ongoing dedication to assisting callers.
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion
Episode 149 of We're Here to Help showcases Jake and Gareth's ability to blend humor with practical advice, addressing deeply personal and sometimes unconventional issues. Whether helping a caller navigate workplace bullying or redefining intimate dynamics, the hosts demonstrate empathy and creativity. The episode also highlights successful follow-ups, reinforcing the show's impact and the hosts' commitment to their audience.